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sullen kilnBOT Sep 21, 2022, 10:32 PM

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steady kestrel Sep 21, 2022, 10:33 PM

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previously i was doing a payment intent but there was a reason because it was a payment up front

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now i want to do a 7 day free trial (collecting card details up front) to bill after the trial period

sturdy flint Sep 21, 2022, 10:38 PM

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Hi, what have you tried so far? You can achieve this here: https://stripe.com/docs/billing/quickstart and offer the 7 day free

trial_period_days: 7

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Once the free trials are up, the customer can be charged.

steady kestrel Sep 21, 2022, 11:10 PM

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before i was using payment methods to set up the subscription with Laravel Cashier

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but I already had the payment method because it was starting with a payment

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when i was looking in the api i saw things about setting up subscriptions with no card

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but I'd like to set it up with a card, and doing payment intent of 0 probably makes no sense?

sturdy flint Sep 21, 2022, 11:13 PM

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Yes, setting up subscriptions with no card is an option. Can you share what integration document you're using? I see that you're using Laravel Cashier, have you reached out to them?

steady kestrel Sep 21, 2022, 11:14 PM

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laravel cashier simply allowed me to easily make subscriptions using the payment method on file

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I was using Stripe payment intents with Stripe's PHP package to get the payment method in the first place

sturdy flint Sep 21, 2022, 11:18 PM

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With this, when you offer a free trial with the current flow is teh subscription not honoring the free trial?

steady kestrel Sep 21, 2022, 11:19 PM

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I guess maybe I am looking to collect payment details?

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sorry I am just confused as to what it is exactly that I am supposed to be doing to collect the payment details on the free trial

sturdy flint Sep 21, 2022, 11:21 PM

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No problem, let's back up. Do you plan on using Laravel Cashier? Or are you seeking to build your own integration?

steady kestrel Sep 21, 2022, 11:24 PM

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yes I was intending on using Laravel Cashier to create the subscription

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but in order to do so, I need to send it the payment method from Stripe

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which I was getting from the payload for payment_intent.succeeded

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now, I'd like to make it so they pay nothing, and just do a free trial, but collect their payment details

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I guess what I am looking for is the Setup Intents API

sturdy flint Sep 21, 2022, 11:32 PM

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Since you're using Laravel Cashier here I'd recommend reaching out to them and asking this question as they own this, https://laravel.com/docs/9.x/billing

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We are happy to help with any direct Stripe integration questions

steady kestrel Sep 21, 2022, 11:33 PM

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yes

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well it seems I can get the payment method using Setup Intents

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which is what I need for Cashier

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https://stripe.com/docs/payments/save-and-reuse#php

Set up future payments

Learn how to save card details and charge your customers later.

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found that on that page, I was looking through Stripe API but not finding what I was looking for

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was just confused as to how to get the payment details I suppose, anyhow, thanks

sturdy flint Sep 21, 2022, 11:35 PM

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Yes, you can set this up on your end to Collect the Payment Methods from your customers via teh Setup Intent.

steady kestrel Sep 21, 2022, 11:35 PM

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yes so I guess what I would do is do a Setup Intent, then use that payment method to setup a subscription with a 7 day trial

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once Stripe confirms that the card details are good

sturdy flint Sep 21, 2022, 11:39 PM

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Yes, via the Setup Intent, you'd collect the customers payment method and set off_session: true here, https://stripe.com/docs/payments/save-and-reuse?platform=web#charge-saved-payment-method:~:text=off-session payment%3A-,Set,causes the PaymentIntent to throw an error if authentication is required.,-Set the value so you can indicate that the customer is not in your checkout flow during this payment attempt for those subscriptions.

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Then, from this, you can share the Payment Method with Laravel Cashier to charge the customer. I'm really curious why they would not allo payment method collection with the 7 day free trial subscriptions. This is our typical flow usually.

steady kestrel Sep 21, 2022, 11:43 PM

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I'm not sure, I guess because they are just handling the PHP side and letting you get the other stuff with Javascript with Stripe?

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I've been a bit lost trying to set this stuff up not so much in terms of the difficulty of implementation but more in terms of understanding what exactly needs to be done

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usually Laravel is very clear about things as well, I would say, but I've spent probably way more time than was needed trying to set this up lol

sturdy flint Sep 21, 2022, 11:47 PM

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I'm sorry to hear this. That can be tough -- as for next steps, if they do not handle payment method collection, then yes - the above Setup Intents is what you'd use.

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