hakan_-checkout-webhook

[narrow surge]

Hello 👋
It is fired almost instantly but it may sometimes take a few seconds to reach your endpoint due to network delays

[cedar hinge]

hm because when i want to make within the success callback a check for invoicing it might bite so in same time comes with the webhook?

[narrow surge]

You can poll the API in that case as shown here
https://stripe.com/docs/payments/checkout/custom-success-page

[cedar hinge]

or its enough safe to say the success is always faster

[cedar hinge]

what do you mean by that

poll the api

[narrow surge]

I mean if your success page depends on results from checkout session, then instead of waiting for the webhook to arrive, you can call the API to retrieve the session object

[cedar hinge]

i am doing that excatly but just after retrieving the session object I am making checks if a payment was going through so when a user made before it means I want to cancel the old subcription and keep the newly created. when the webhook arrives faster, my software cancels the newly created subscription. thats the problem!

[narrow surge]

maybe add a check to see if the subscription was recently created or something

before cancelling

[cedar hinge]

wait, when I use a checkout.completed webhook it sends also the session to it or subscription details?

[cedar hinge]

user can also decide to downgrade instantly or upgrade. not good check

what data will send checkout.completed is my question becaue when i get a subscription id and retrieve the details again I can ensure the delay you know

[narrow surge]

we send the session object
https://stripe.com/docs/api/checkout/sessions/object

you'd find subscription information on it
https://stripe.com/docs/api/checkout/sessions/object#checkout_session_object-subscription

[cedar hinge]

is there any information how to get latest invoice for that?

like for this checkout the invoice

[narrow surge]

latest invoice for what exactly?
Checkout sessions don't have invoices. The subscription would.

[cedar hinge]

yeah there is a invoice id on the subscription?

[narrow surge]

should be, if you expand the subscription
https://stripe.com/docs/api/subscriptions/object#subscription_object-latest_invoice

[cedar hinge]

ah hm I can't use the checkout completed since this webhook should be when someone just have "paid", so which webhook can i use instad?

instead

[narrow surge]

I'm confused, why can't you use it exactly? like because you aren't sure if the payment went through?

[cedar hinge]

nono I confused myself too a few moments but for the webhook where I want to save the invoice into my database I just need a paid state for the future so everytime when stripe charges my server saves the invoices data etc.

@narrow surge

[narrow surge]

there should be an invoice.paid event as well

[cedar hinge]

but where is the docs for that so I can look the request data to webhook endpoint

[narrow surge]

Not exactly sure what docs are you looking for

invoice.paid sends an invoice object with the event
https://stripe.com/docs/api/events/types#event_types-invoice.paid
https://stripe.com/docs/api/invoices/object

[cedar hinge]

ah yeah so i can just get the invoice perfect

[narrow surge]

To use webhooks with subscriptions, we have a guide/docs here
https://stripe.com/docs/billing/subscriptions/webhooks

[cedar hinge]

ok also does the invoice will be sent always to the users email right?

[narrow surge]

after a successful payment?

depends if you have those settings enabled
https://dashboard.stripe.com/settings/emails

https://dashboard.stripe.com/settings/billing/automatic

[cedar hinge]

jep the one with automatic sending to user is enabled. good so far.

how can I enable the stripe CLI to listen only to one webhook?

so not all

just invoice.paid

so i can proper test here

[broken axle]

You would just specify the event you're interested in listening for: https://stripe.com/docs/cli/listen#listen-events

[cedar hinge]

hm, seems I get the invoice.paid instnatly and then the checkout.completed...

[broken axle]

That's expected. We also don't guarantee the ordering of events, so it's usually best to account for exactly which event has the data you're looking for

[cedar hinge]

is that invoice.paid also in live version way faster?

or only locally

[broken axle]

I think the speed is comparable, but likely marginally faster via CLI

[cedar hinge]

i see. hm sounds lke i need to delay the invoice.paid 😦

[broken axle]

Why?

[cedar hinge]

.

couze it will bite with the other webhook

a race

[broken axle]

Ahhh, okay, so you have a race condition

Yep

Gimme a quick minute to read the back-scroll and see if any better suggestions come to mind. Usually I wouldn't advise anyone to wait for a webhook before doing a mostly unrelated process

[cedar hinge]

i just want to give the user immediatly the service. when I listen with the webhook with paypal before I waited 1 minute which was horrible

i dont want to wait even 5 seconds, the user should getimmediatly upgraded

[broken axle]

Wait, so you're only handling order fulfillment with the webhook event?

You shouldn't need to wait for invoice.paid

[cedar hinge]

no within the success

success URL

but the webhook saves a new invoice.paid with the subscription id

[broken axle]

checkout.session.completed only ever fires when a payment is successful, so you should just use that.

And the customer is only ever redirected to your success_url if a payment succeeds (except if you're using delayed payment methods)

[cedar hinge]

oh wait, the user will not be redirected to success_url when they use something like sepa?

that makes it worse 😦

nope, even with delayed I get the redirect

[broken axle]

They will, but you won't want to fulfill their order until you get the checkout.session.async_payment_succeeded event webhook: https://stripe.com/docs/api/events/types#event_types-checkout.session.async_payment_succeeded

[cedar hinge]

No i dont want to await the user

you said above they will not ?

[broken axle]

I don't understand the question. Can you rephrase?

[cedar hinge]

i just mean, will invoice.paid webhook always be faster than checkout?

[broken axle]

No. Like I said, we can't guarantee the ordering of webhooks. You should only rely on Checkout events when possible.

[cedar hinge]

hm ok can I limit calling webhooks for products no right?

[broken axle]

What do you mean by "limit calling webhooks"? Do you mean "limit the webhook events your endpoint is listening for"?

[cedar hinge]

i mean what if I have other products and invoices got paid for that, my endpoint then will always be hit

using the invoice.paid thing

[broken axle]

I still don't understand. Are you saying you want to only listen for a webhook if it's for a specific invoice and a specific event?

[cedar hinge]

nevermind. just got another race condition with checkout... please help me.

When I try to access using the invoice.paid webhook (so everytime I can save invoice details in my database) for the first time I don't have any stripe user details in my database.. so it fails

since checkout comes after invoice.paid I don't have any association

[fervent thunder]

Hi 👋 I"m stepping in since @broken axle has to go.

What is the problem when you receive the checkout.session.completed event?

[cedar hinge]

im not using checkout webhooks at all. I am just using the success redirect URL

now when I have the checkout success redirect I can get the client data into my database (so later I can reference). what happens is though I listen to a webhook called "invoice.paid" so everytime when stripe charges (also for the first subscription creation) an invoice , stripe sends the data to my server

now, invoice.paid arrives BEFORE checkout on my server without any user association ...

so I get customer id and everything but its not connected to my database

@fervent thunder

[fervent thunder]

Well then use the checkout.session.completed event and expand the customer ID you receive. That should solve the problem

[cedar hinge]

instead of the success URL?

so checkout.session.completed runs before invoice.paid?

im woundering how others do it, thats a basic problem

[fervent thunder]

The timing of different webhook event deliveries can vary depending on a number of factors so you cannot depend on specific timing in your integration.

If you want to get the Customer information from the Invoice object you can retrieve the related invoice.subscription and expand the customer

[cedar hinge]

you don't get it...

I already have that everything

Hm thanks for now

[fervent thunder]

invoice.paid arrives BEFORE checkout on my server without any user association
So are you saying you don't create a user until their info is returned by the return_url from Checkout?

[cedar hinge]

I can't know user payment details before user goes to checkout... Yes

but I have a dirty solution

[cedar hinge]

i got subscription_create for the invoice for first time

what it will be next time?

subscription_current

or something ?

like at least anything else

[fervent thunder]

So you create a user record before you know payment details and fill it in later.

i got subscription_create for the invoice for first time
What property are you talking about here?

[cedar hinge]

sounds like i talk to a wall ? 😦

the invoice object man what else

[fervent thunder]

There are other people on this server I am also trying to help so sometimes I will take a couple minutes to get back to you

the invoice object man what else
What property in the invoice object?

https://stripe.com/docs/api/invoices/object

[cedar hinge]

i get that but this chat here is not a help at all unfortunately

[fervent thunder]

There's more than one

[cedar hinge]

billing_reason

[fervent thunder]

Okay so you can read about that property here: https://stripe.com/docs/api/invoices/object#invoice_object-billing_reason
Ad you will see that we have subscription_cycle, subscription_create, subscription_update, and manual values for billing_reason

[cedar hinge]

ok... one question, when the success redirect URL kicks in, can I expect a last invoice object within the subscription?

[fervent thunder]

The success URL redirecting the user back to your interface?

[cedar hinge]

yeah

[fervent thunder]

It should. But you can also listen to customer.subscription.created or customer.subscription.updated event to receive the Subscription object as well.

[cedar hinge]

i hope so...

[cedar hinge]

when I add a quantity that is absolute identical to stripe will stripe even change it?

within a subscription

[fervent thunder]

What are you updating in that case? Why make the API request?

[cedar hinge]

quantity

[fervent thunder]

Why? If you are passing the same value?

[cedar hinge]

its just a question

what happens

at paypal I got email notifications every single time even value was 1:1

[plain bough]

👋 I'm hopping in since @fervent thunder has to head out

Really at this point I'd say the best thing for you to do is to test all these things out in test mode yourself - you have a lot of very specific questions about what behavior is the same vs different compared to paypal, and the best way to confirm it is just to test it out

[cedar hinge]

i am testing it out and i cannot see there is a API to update the quantity

of a subscription

[plain bough]

Have you read through all our subscription docs? We go through a lot of examples on how to change subscriptions like at https://stripe.com/docs/billing/subscriptions/upgrade-downgrade#changing, so I'd suggest reading through all those ersources

[cedar hinge]

thanks, I have some company data in my account but only the company name and phon number appears on invoices. why?

[plain bough]

You should read through https://stripe.com/docs/invoicing/customize#public-support-info

[cedar hinge]

ah interesting thanks

possible to customize it per product?

i mean, my customers want to read terms and privacy policy on invoices not of company, but the product itself etc etc

[plain bough]

Did you read the rest of that page? We cover other ways to customize the invoice like the memo and footer which you can control through the API

[cedar hinge]

thanks, I added now a tax id in my https://dashboard.stripe.com/settings/billing/invoice but its not showing within the invoice..

[lyric prawn]

👋 Taking over from this thread

Could you elaborate more what you expect after adding tax ID?

[cedar hinge]

yeah so below there is an text like:

Configure the tax information that can be displayed on invoice-related PDFs.

I added a tax from my company but its not showing up in the invoice........

invocice PDF

[lyric prawn]

Could you share the invoice ID (in_xxx)?

[cedar hinge]

in_1LSVx2KiFdFiKVXCE8vgXhfT for example

i have tax id both test and live mode

[lyric prawn]

Tax shows up in invoice PDF and invoice link as well

[cedar hinge]

the tax, but we are talking about TAX ID

my id

is nowhere

this here my friend

tax informations on invoices

[lyric prawn]

Ah I see! I'm looking into it now

[cedar hinge]

👍

[cedar hinge]

https://dashboard.stripe.com/settings/billing/invoice here at bottom

[cedar hinge]

Got anything?

[lyric prawn]

I can't find anything at the moment. Checking with my coworker

[cedar hinge]

Ok

I want to go live soon. :(

[lyric prawn]

Your tax ID is not set as default

Only when default tax ID is set, then it'll be displayed

[cedar hinge]

Ah hm ok will try tomorrow

[lyric prawn]

👍