#War Thunder
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Which one?
I’ve got the US Hornet and the top USSR flanker thing
Those will have pretty different play styles, the hornet when played at br or in a decent downtier should feel slower paced but its up tiers are brutal. Su30 is in a really good spot, second best rank 8 premium and will teach you fox 3s
I honestly wouldnt bother with the hornet until you finish the Russian tree
The su30 will take time to learn but once you can get 2 or 3 kills a match the grind should start flowin
yeah the 13.3 flanker for the USSR is a rape machine when you get decent at it
the downtiers are a cakewalk and the uptiers aren't that bad
I have a parasitical relationship with the US tree. It was my first love, and I want to grind the attackers out, but I may focus on USSR, especially if it’s easier.
I know the few kills I’ve gotten have massively pushed my tree forward.
This is the one I have
What would be optimal range for the Fox-3s?
just follow the whathever the DLZ tells you and you'll get a good feel for it after a few games
the r-77s for that thing aren't the best so expect around 8ish miles for on the deck shots but can go up to around 15ish against people going high and fast
Noted! I just have to get close enough and I think that’s the problem
Forgive my ignorance. DLZ?
I kind of understand that the Flanker is a better knife fighter, especially with the HMD. When I found it had that, I went absolutely ham.
this
1 is the "max" range (if the target literally does no maunevering or anyting to counter). 3 is the section you want to be firing in cause missile is most likely to hit
2 is sorta your aircraft's current position in relation to the dlz (so you want 2 inside of 3)
and 4 is the min range
better image
yeah abuse tf out of the hmd
that thing alone gives you a huge advantage in downtiers
my guy 😭
i just be thinking “he’s at 20km ima fire”
Thank you! I know how that display works and what it is, I just don't think I've ever heard what it is lol
Thats a lot of RP for doing literally nothing.
Not bad!
good enough
What are the lobbies like, ever gotten a france v france?
Nah, just france vs the world
Had a match with only dutch f16's and f1c-2000 premiums on my team😭
I wonder if some countries have a flag to let them be matched against each other while others don't
I don't think I've gotten a single TT match with rafales on the other team
But Germany US and USSR are almost always on both
yeah that feels like the case
the other day I had a match with like 6-7 rafales on the other team which was wild
I have a feeling your team didnt win that match
im crine the F(fuck ahh)-16 event vehicle is in the the su-30 downtier
it dont get much better than ts
F-20 in the realm of top tier downtiers is sad
I want an F-20 in DCS or VTOL, but I don't want it to suck like it does in WT
I gotta get in on this
hop on twin
delectable
su30 premium brain damage
Nah it’s the victimizable event vehicle players fault.
They need to be harder victims
total f-16A death
F-16As are sexy
so I was waiting to buy the f-14 iriaf until spring break
then the conflict happened
and now its over $200
nah that shi got up to like 140 even months before the conflict
oh rlly?
it's a very good aircraft for its br so it's been one of the more expensive event vehicles for air
last time i checked pricce was pre christmas ngl
it was like 70 or so i thikn
maybe im tripping tho
nah its been over 130 for a very good while
they made the 120D slightly heavy than the C-5 now
which I'm sure it's realistic but it's officially now a slightly worse C-5 when it comes to range
only by 1 kg
oh nvm it is more maneuverable now
120D is orange
not by much
Can you throw the 120B in there too?
120A and 120B are the exact same
the only difference is their name
for war thunder at least
oh
cooked ahh missile
Homeopathic ahh difference
yeah, homophobic ahh missile 🥀
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Fucking russian bias
"russia is so easy to kill just aim for LFP"
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okay so how tf does chaffing in war thunder work
cause I'm doing it like you'd do in VTOL and it's not working
look aat the replay
Its nothing like VTOL imo,
in VTOL the notch filter is very small, but once the missile is off it usually doesnt reaquire instantly
in WT the notch is quite forgiving but if you don't pull a very agressive in plane maneuver you will get reaquired
Ammount of chaff is not very important, I usually do 1 chaff per second for 5 ish seconds while pulling max g up or down
repeat until MAWS/RWR clear
If you are trying to chaff CW missiles you are just a little cooked, they need to be chaffed quite early or they will just keep guiding
I think that's catching me off-guard then
foxx1 or 3?
Missiles also will keep trying relentlessly to find you again which i dont think they do in vtol as much right?
yeah
U know how u flare 9M’s?
Its crucial to keep yourself moving for ARH’s in WT, every chaff you need to reposition so youre not found again bc unfortunately alot of the missiles in WT are very smart and know if their target suddenly stops moving then the real target must be ahead of that
Also did they ever change this back lol
Bc ever since that one update shortly after 9M’s were added they just act like any other missiles same with R-73’s and ir MICA
Those are IRCCM right?
Allgedly
IR MICA ???
Not a thing in WT
I think you mean the Magic 2
Yes
9M’s use seeker shutoff so to flare them you have to flare and then change direction of ur direction change.
So like if ur pulling up u flare and then jink quickly in another direction that would be apparent from the missiles POV
ARH’s in war thunder use the same seeker shutoff logic for higher end missiles.
I immediately got better at notching everything when I just started treating ARH’s like 9M’s
Iirc their seeker shutoff is much more rapid tho more like many blinks rather than shutting your eyes
Regardless it’s the same technique either way you look at it. I don’t need to be surgical in my understanding. I just know what works.
Back to the 9M IRCCM did that ever get readded?
No
9M’s still just use seeker shutoff
Do they actually still or are they just supposed to
Ik they for sure did when the update dropped
They’ve never been nerfed to my knowledge
I can drop one flare with burner and lose them now
Seeker perf at least
Any missile for that matter
What plane?
9Ms are still really really strong given their strength isn’t dependent on being rear aspect like gatewidth heaters
Maybe for the typhoon since im constantly manuevering hard its losing me but idk about the others
Oh yeah theyre still great
I still tend to dump CMs whenever a missile is shot till im below 50 tho
That's actually fake news, had a fucking R-60 (aka Allahs most flare hungry warrior) track right through a morbillion flares into a Harrier like it's nothing.
Harrier produces the equivalent heat output of 2.67 suns
It used to be the hottest plane in the game before the F-14A
14A is so fucking funny because if a gatewidth middle of ANY kind sees you within like 10km you just fucking die.
Shit bruh an R-60 at maximum allowable range will still kill you.
I think you can nearly all aspect 14A’s with most rear aspect missiles
In a usable range.
Air to air lobotomy
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ME FOR REAL
I GOTTA PLAY GROUND RB
I HAVE THE A-4
I heard the horsepower and DM53 go crazy but that’s about it
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That type shit im ALWAYS on
is the pl12a even liek
any better than the pl12
I haven't heard anyone talk about it
mane i just try to get into higher tier ground rb and these nerds all they do is hold angles ts just not fun compared to like the 5-7 rating
Yep. I had that last night. Was running 12 and had ti knock it down to 5.7 because it just was frustrating
Taxes just hit, I am going to get one prem of any type. What should I get?
People that buy this now are on crack, and not the good kind
The fact that they dont give the UK a good top tier preem is maddening. You can't tell me that the cream of the crop of the RAF is a mig 21 and an F-18, especially when the Typhoon exists.
I'd almost agree, but thats a striker
isnt
Oh you said F2, my bad
You think a Tornado would be competitive at the top?
OMFG maybe if my eyes worked, I would have seen that there already is one close
I am unfamiliar with the British tree, my bad
the bison is allegedly pretty baller
mig-21 at 12.3 with r-27s and r-73s
its only downside is that it gets up tired against the 13.3 flankers now but it's prolly still a solid grinder
in what
g-tolerance more like g-intolerant
Whats cfit?
f.2 can work at 10.7
while being rank 7
Tornado F.2 is like the if gaijin was epic option Typhoon FG.2 is the total gaijin obliteration option
fuck man i shouldve grinded out that upgrade for the ticket back in the event
kept it around for a while
france
an f-5 or a mirage f1
Didnt they just get a dutch falcon
Event vehicle
im going to back C here the Mig-21 Bison is the 3rd best grinding premium in the ENTIRE game
only the SU-30s are better
and after having 3 air trees its still my favorite jet to play hands down
I have more fun in that than even tech tree jets
I think you’ve convinced me. I just need to learn the foibles of the mig 21.
I may also pick up the F-4 as a bomb truck
Hey why am I blue now. I want my red back
Low-key just Never get into a dogfight
Or at least never get slow
21 can at least win a 1c
Noted
Would R-73s be the better choice?
On the bison?
Ye
I dont know if it let's you use 4 r73s but I wouldnt
It does not
2 r-27Rs and 2 r73s
I wonder if it will let me create that. I feel like it only has 2 pylons, and a center tank
The r27R is a really good missile within about 6km or 3ish Mi, it has a datalink so even if your radar drops and reacquires it will stick to the target,
The r73 is probably the second best ir missile in the game, it has irrcm so it can be flare resistant but usually only in rear aspect. It also thrust vectors which results in some really nuts shots in dogfights, especially using the hmcs, and at 12.3 its beyond what people expect especially in down tiers
The r27T is really situational, its the same kinematically as the R variant but essentially has a narrower fov r73 seeker. It gives you an option to do some longer range fire and forget but has the same drawback of really only being flare resistant in rear aspect which results in a trashed missile even if your target just happens to fire their own missile/rockets or whatever
It will
You get two r27s and two r73s
4 total missiles
I like the MiG-23ML rn
It was disgusting on release years ago and then sorta fell off as the F-16’s and more modern fighters came into the game and now that there’s enough separation it’s pretty good again.
The trick is having to wrestle the radar into doing what you want but if you do you get evil rape missile.
Oh sweet. I just found out that you can buy stuff from the assistant app lol
R-24R’s have the stickyness of E2DF’s but waaaay better kinetics
If your going to hop on the bison grind and want some guidance or just see how i play it we can always hop im a vc some time
Like any top tier it will take some getting used to, and the right keybinds also matter
For sure. Would you be free at some point tonight? If not, maybe tomorrow?
Tonight works, I'll be home around 8est
Ill be in vc for sure so just shoot a ping or hop in whenever
Sounds like a plan. Gives me time to get home after work
Oh my god why can’t I find the Phantom in the store
Found it
It is done.
which f4?
dont use it as a bomb truck, its a crazy good brawler
Really?
it just gets up rated a lot but still very good
Hmmm
yeah i run 5 sparrows with 2 aim 9
What about energy retention?
it sucks i just use missles then rtb when out
Do you usually survuve that? Do you have to get into the missile brawl that always starts?
I'm sorry for all the questions, I just want to know before I drop $80 on a bunch of pixels
i sorta climb and side climb a lil
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I doubt that this 400 liter drop tank only weighs 70 kilos.
The Bison has a jammer suite. Gaijin, EW WHEN???
well could I convince you of some ARB?
whatever wou want twin
best i can do is 11.3
Lore accurate AMRAAM
Hey, I really appreciate you teaching me the Bison. I had a great time. It sounds mushy, But I don't get a lot of opportunities to get to play with people often, so that was great.
absolutely man, always down for some war thunder so just shoot a ping or hop in vc and we can run it back whenever
For sure
Super Hornet lost its IRST pod?
I may do that as well
Hell yeah
Cleaning for an hour-ish then I’ll hop on
get ready to grind every single plane in the tree lol
Kinda have to to get from rank to rank, right?
Need to purchase x amount of planes from one to get to the next
not that you're gonna use them😭
also project hailmary was a good movie
yuh was pretty good
only complaint for me is the ship design makes no sense
in the book its tiny because of the rocket equation
no holodecks
they never folder anythin
Tried the Ds yet?
yeah
Imo HOBS performance is doodoo
been having good games with them but can't really tell if they're better
they seem to be more notch resistant?
in the sense that they still get notched but are better at reaquiring
They should be with the GPS stuff
Although I think the INS drift they have modeled must be extremely excessive for it to make a difference
yeah I only had one kill so far where I could clearly see that it seemed to reaquire in a situation that I wasn't used to it reaquiring in
Figures the week I’m gone the update comes out
Is US top tier not doo doo anymore?
you get an extra f-16, still only 6 fox-3's
What about A/G stuff?
JSOW and SLAM-ER
Nice!
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Glory to china.
Xi Jinping’s most loyal pig
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Also
The new premium Chinese tank is probably the best tank at its BR
gen3 therm/DTC-10-125/IR Track and proxy HE/great armor/fast as shit/neutral steering/6.7s auto loader
Paired with the Khalid that 2 tank lineup looks insane
hit
Steel your resolve, brother
full uptier btw
Fuck it we ball @fleet halo @real oak
poop brown
thanks big yahu
rape plane
Gotcha
Hilarious. They even banned the author 😂
T-50 tank or T-50 like tyro?
TONK
Damn 😔
Gaijin will discover the F/A-50 at some point, it will be a 11.7 premium and will be DOA
Except for maybe in ground
It can carry a good amount of stuff, I think it would be a neat addition.
Depends on what variant goes where, most fa50s cant carry anything more than aim9s
And with a worse flight model then an f16 it can only go to 11.7
AMX but supersonic
Amx/hawk tuah (209)++
I would buy it just for the looks lol
Good looking
There are a few with amraam but like
Joe likes em plump
Its doa at 13.3
Plump in da right places
HELL YEAH I DO 🤤
An amraam fa50 at 13.0 might actually be really cool
If they would give the F-20 its 120As it would be really nice at 12.X
(F20 in VTOL when, Joe)
FAHHH
When are we getting helicopter mounted AMRAAM-ER
Diddy copter
9x on da viper tho
Ah hell nah
No amraams below 13.0
I'd be picketing outside gaijin hq if that happened
Gaijin could make the f20 more realistic by removing it from the game
I’m gonna add it to VTOL eventually
And it’s gonna be MY version of it, with PGMs
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Muh...muh...muh headlight armor!
@nova crown Hey, whats the sound pack you use?
should be this
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its out of date with the new update so new vehicles may have no sound
Well, I don't have new vehicles, so thats ok
Does the gripen get its turbo whine?
Oh my god, even just the hangar sounds amazing
Which one, Ill see if I can test it
It does
I'm gonna cream. This sounds so juicy. It has presence. I should have done this years ago.
Test flight through Sweden's tree. The Gripen is 13.3
Its the highest in the Preem line
How’d you hear the turbo whine tho
No AESA? Hmmm...
I thought it was only on flyby?
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That’s insane
"MICA missile fired from Sukhoi-30 MKI for the first time successfully destroyed expendable aerial targets (EATs)"
https://www.newindianexpress.com/states/odisha/2020/Aug/19/iaf-test-fires-air-to-air-missiles-ahead-of-rafale-integration-2185422.html
Old ahh article i found but apparently India shot MICAs off their su30
A tvc su30 fwiw
A brilliant 14.7 idea for the uk
india tree would go wild if it wasn't for the fact that they got into the aircraft game pretty late
would grind uk in a heartbeat if they added rafale
It also shoots the domestic Indian ASTRAs
Which are amraam competitive range wise (Wikipedia)
Aim-7 competitive wise (Gaijin)
Rafael, su 30, tejas, mig29
holy moly
british tree would actually just be goated
only things it would be missing would be f-16s and f-15s at that point lmao
That'd almost need 2 branches
Honestly I would just love the mica su30 with an aesa
Hope it comes out right when Krieger finishes russia air
(Its never happening)
also holy moly I've been eating good today
went from 730 kills and 276 deaths to 769 kills and 278 deaths
39 and 2 🗣️
you excited to stock grind?
My stats took a fucking nose dive after trying the 14.0 mirage 2000😭
I kind of want to learn to use it but the rafale is so much better according to krieger
mirage 2000 is lowkey tough to use cause of its radar
It's like the only radar I run src pd mode on the regular just because of the larger vert scan volume
I mean I can lock people just fine, I just can't get close and fire my 2 mica's
ah rip
I wouldnt worry about stats during stock grind
only having 2 fox-3s is painful
top tier with no chaff 🥹
Oh yeah I don't really care, it's just painfull going like 10+ games without any kills or meaningfull points for xp
you have any bombs?
@eager sluice after I finished typing up these messages I tabbed back in to war thunder and there was a missile on my rwr
so I instantly started pulling to the left and heard it woosh by behind me (wasn't chaffing)
looked at the replay and it turned out it was a fakour
Not yet, scared that I'll unlock those and won't be able to use them cause fox-3 spam
I just use ccrp and toss them across the map before the missile spam
but sometimes that means the bases get stolen
I'm not a bad player but I still can't consistantly chaff
do you be doin this to the missiles
I normally try to start them on my 3/9 line then slowly turn to get them a bit past it
Yes, deploy chaff in the beam, and turn up/down to get outside the reacquire cone
67
@gusty sedge have you also been getting constant uptiers
nah
lies
I've been catching all of his uptiers😭
all 12.7
not how you use that gif
@fleet halo what aircraft you grindin rn?
this is hell
theyre totally gonna add this shit arent they
yeah I had one of those earlier too
we need a flanker edit to post
That sounds like my normal play sessions
Lmao
So for grinding Sweden I save for the JA37 and wait for a premium acc sale?
viggen premium kinda sucks
get the j35xs or just grind with prem account
i got to rank 5 with no prem vehicle in like a nice week of grinding
its a fun tree and pretty short
Kk
plus you get those stupid uhh
The got dam uhhhhhhh
I only have the 2.0 one with 2 .50s😭
I just learned that the Aim-9L was sometimes called the “I wish you were dead” missile by Eagle crews
I figured you were close considering you did 12+ hours straight 😭
Congrats
I shall catch up tomorrow
oh yeeee
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some stupid fuckass bug that causes your plane to explode instantly after firing a missile
w
instant prox fuse 😭
sounds like you missiled your self wise guy
Welcome back legacy hornet missile bug
Intern had the funniest idea
Opposite
The Yak is an officer exchange pilot
F18 is in early early trials
May have been shenanigans with time travel involved
The Smite Missile™
Indeed lol
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Definitely took their time, I hope in a good way
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30 ish 
It really is
How do you do it? How do you force yourself to go back in over and over again? I really want to be ale to do that but it becomes very not fun.
It's just type 3 fun 😭
I get very target fixated and lock in
My goal was to chill and grind it over the course of a few weeks
But then I got carried away
I think a major part of my problem is that I can't see very well. I'm recently blind in one eye, and my GPU doesnt have enough resolution to let me see well.
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Are the export ones worse? The RVV ones?
No, they are just R-77s
But R-77s are pretty garbage
The -1 are sweet though
RVV-AE's are export R-77s
while RVV-SD's are export R-77-1's
the su-30 for the japan tree is the only one I know off the top of my head that has the SD's but there's prolly others
but a majority of russian aircraft operated by non-russian countries in war thunder use the AE's
I want to understand the enemy.
The Su-30SM2 can hover. And it can even do that while carrying multiple tons of bombs. This leads to pretty interesting moments. Hope you enjoy!
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Lore accurate
You have the Maduro flanker?
Ye
How far in the TT are you
Looks like 4,7
finally some kills😭
Hey so if I pick up war thunder and am basically starting from nothing, where should I start?? Any and all advice is welcome even if it's just a YT vid or some small QOL tips.
Depends on what you are wanting to do
Air, or ground?
Air mainly. I'm not too fussed about ground or Naval. Cool as they are
Rip ground is better (it’s all personal preference)
Do you have a particular nation in mind?
I’d think about getting one of the starter packs so you can start rolling up the premium plane benefits
They usually are priced pretty low, like $10 USD
you can only research 1 tier up with premium, after that you lose efficiency
and you go through those early aircraft fast, even without premium
I know, but it’s something while he starts out.
I thought you didn’t lose efficiency with preems
you do
other wise I'd be using my nf-5a for the rafale😭
but I have to suffer in my f-16a
but for early on I'd just start by playing, see if you actually like it
Not really. I want to get into jets properly (shocker I know) but I just want to understand this game cause when I played it years and years ago (before ground was a thing) 90% of the different things in the game went completely over my head and I've just never understood it. It's very overwhelming coming back to it lol
Yeah that makes sense
Definitely don’t buy a top tier and jump in. You will get extremely frustrated. I’d pick a nation and play it for awhile and get your bearings.
And give other nations a try, you might like a second choice more. Keep in mind the jets you want, too. Make sure they are in the nation you pick.
Yeah I'm not looking to drop that amount of money before I'm sold anyway
Yeah mean I'm a sucker for most of the jets in current top tier but not from a game mechanic standpoint I just like them all as they are IRL too. Are there any keybinds and or other stuff I should sort out as well??
Don’t listen to most war thunder content creators most of them are just incorrect and guessing.
Air grind is easier/faster
Ground is a good bit slower
What is it that you want in war thunder
Im in the boat that trying to grind a air tree bottom up is a waste of your time and you will lose interest before you get to where you want to be, treat war thunder like a real game and drop real game money on a real premium either on sale or whenever
One thing that you can make use of is event vehicles, every few months they put up an event where if you play enough you get the event vehicle, last two were the Mig-25 and the dutch F-16, so that could be a good way to try a high tier
Although I think you have to be at rank 3 or smth
i lowkey didn’t rlly enjoy warthunder as much as i do now until i got to like 10.0+ in air ngl
I want to play jets in air RB. That's my main goal I suppose
props just played too slow for me to enjoy that much, i wouldn’t hate on buying a jet plane if that’s what you really want ngl
If your particular to any tree id wait for a sale and get their best premium
Then you gotta go the bitzs route, because you WILL be playing 300 hours of props otherwise
Any that you recommend to keep an eye out for?
Since your brand new something at like 11.0 max, the f-5c (u.s.) or the mig 21s in china or Germany are all good options
If you go much higher the learning curve advances significantly
i’d recommend the f4s but it gets up tiered so much to 13.0 it prolly isn’t worth for a new player
Don't be an F-4S chud please 
nf-5a
If you want to ball out and just be a thug until you get good you can go higher, but below 11.0 you wont get smacked by random radar guided missiles, or crazy fox 2s, its still like a 60% guns only game
The F-5s are goated, it's pure ACM
Okay but i'm guessing I don't wanna just get a premium and jump in cold though right? Like if im waiting for a good sale for a premium I should get a crew trained up and stuff yeah?
Yeah thats smart
Crew will be trained quick, got my russia crew from lvl 14 to 75 in a day
If you have disposable income it isnt crazy to jump into something straight away just expect to learn before you start doing amazing
Fair enough. I suppose that's true
F-4S players trying to evade my R-24R (they are level 23)
I guess I don't want to just be one of those guys getting a premium early on but if that's the way to realistically not have to spend my entire life playing this game I shall have to feed the snail lol
you’re lowkey right, whenever i play a mig 23 f4s are easy prey
idk i like the plane tho and i usually do good
Its more of a stigma for ground players, you depend on your team a lot more there and having only a single premium used to be pretty bad
It's not that the plane is bad but the average F-4S player is a wallet warrior asleep at the wheel, so it gets a bad rap yk
yeah the amount of teammates i see just climb straight toward the enemy and not even try to notch is crazy
side climbing the f4s is so goated tho
@devout heath at some point u should catch me in a VC before or after u make ur purchase. I’ve got somewhere ~5k hours on and off steam and I can share some insight that’ll ease ur first tech tree.
If it’s before I can def point u the right way.
Bet I will gladly wait to buy to get some good insight first for sure!
The biggest trap people fall into is the mindset of "I'm bad because I'm new so imma buy a Tornado or A-10 or Mirage F1C and bomb bases and attack ground targets" which leads to them never getting good and suffering, so don't fall into that trap
Definetely not looking to do that lol but good to know aha
i hate premium base bombers who lack a brain
Nah I love them free kills frfr
Especially premium A-10s in an F-5 of any kind
That's just free rp right there
I dont think it's too bad if you're alright with playing ww2 stuff for a minute
air arcade is a lot of fun
Just going to say there is a reason you only did one tree that way
Tbf all the nation starter packs are 50% off rn
but yeah when you get to early jets you sorta hit a brick wall grind-wise and sorta have to get a premium account to do the rest
yeah cause my first tree was my "learning" tree and I wanted to initially play ww2 stuff
but yeah if you dont care for ww2 stuff and just want to get to the top then getting a rank 7 prem is the move (preferably one without radar missiles imo)
it forces you to still learn the basics of the game and getting good with guns and then you can learn more about sarh then arh once you unlock those jets
Mmmmmhmmmm
This may be best done by playing regular tech tree air until a sale
true
air arcade is a lot of fun and a viable grind method for early br's and it gives you the excuse to play a huge variety of aircraft
then you can make a transition to realistic when you're comfortable gunning in late ww2 but I never really did that until early jets cause I sucked ass
around the f-104 is when I caved and got premium cause it got to the point where I was essentially hard stuck there cause of rep costs lmao
@nova crown got to creating some presets
I have a preset called “Sheer Fuckery”
Which squadron vehicle should I leave researching?
which ever one you find the most interesting tbh
defintely a top tier one because by the time you're done researching a squadron vehicle you'll probably be there lmao
The mig-29m for russia looks pretty beast mode
I meab there's some low-mid tier ones and then you've got a gripen and an F-16 which is crazy
the gripen isn't all tha but it's cool
the gripen d specifically
jf-17 is also cool
the jf-17 is cool
Good luck. It will take literal years to get one of those
but the F16 for france is kinda tight tho no?
I've just seen this one yeah
Scratch that its an
Complete side note: what should I put as my PC wallpaper? Time sensitive, asking for a friend
This isn't google, oops
nah it only gets fox 2s
JF-17, Gripen D, and Mig-29M all carry fox-3s (jf-17 is particularly nasty cause it's at 13.3)
su-33 can also be fun but it only got Fox-1s. Although they're like really good ones
Yeah I realised lol
I guess if the gripen isnt that good for sweden I might just leave it on the mig 29
gripen D and su-33 are both kinda in an odd spot where they're essentially have tech tree equivalents that are better
Evil ahh rape missile
but mig-29M can carry 2 additional missiles over the tech tree equivilants and jf-17 is completely unique so those ones are kinda worth grinding for imo
I know that both R27 variants can slap when left unchecked
although there's a chance that gaijin adds the mig-29k to the tech tree which is the carrier version of the M and afaik that one can also carry 2 additional missiles
Yeah i've set the mig 29 as my squad research
This is almost 9 months of progress, fyi
Wonderful. Set it and forget it. Gotcha lol
There is actually some math behind this that I could explain, but not over text, it's too much lol
No worries, it's getting kinda late for me now anyway. Cheers for helping me get setup and back into this game the right way this time lol. I actually feel good making a start this time up the never ending grind mountain unlike previous futile attempts lol
You bet! Remember, it's always more fun to grind with a friend! 😉
I like tto look every once in awhile, just to laugh
that thing has been exploding in price like crazy recently
Yeah, last time I checked it was like $160
And that was like a week and change, I think
it was hovering around 90 bucks for the longest time
And then the US did a funny
not sure if that had much of an effect tbh
Day of, a couple buddies and I watched it climb in near-real time
The gripens flight model is kinda super fucked
Idk if the E’s engine fixes it
Nit in a performance way exactly in a it feels buggy and messy to fly like its unfinished
Ye I get wha tyou're saying
seeing this things price is like seeing bitcoin go up
man i shouldve bought bitcoin in 2008 when i was born
first thing i shouldve done out of the womb
on the other hand man i shouldve spent another 10 hours playing war thudner while on vacation with my family to get the ticket upgrade so i could sell it
@gusty sedge
Oh my god that makes me feel so fucking old
yeah and I'm about to turn 18
how about that huh

dude i was also grinding it on vacation but decided against it after like the third day
if only i knew….
yeah I was in Michigan playing on super low settings sim battles on my shitty laptop
got the plane and I was like "man i could totally try and get more points to get the ticket upgrade... but I wanna spend time with my family"
shouldve locked in amh
I was at my grandmas house in the middle of nowhere spain with a phone hotspot and shitty laptop. I decided to get drunk instead of playing war thunder.
it was just impossible to aim guns with my ping, maybe i could’ve done it if i had higher br planes with missles back then
Gripen IRIS-T mounts when
Help I can hear the RWR sound in my head whenever a clock ticks
WT comes first, always.
OooOoOooh I’m in your walls ooOoooOooh
Well fuck
ik :(
But in return
mahshallah
nice
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
i need to lock in with the f1c
sigh everyone but me man
ive had my account since like 2018 guys pls come on lemme play
ground battles btw
Wait there are sound mods in war thunder?
Russia
mayhaps but I was pullin numbers crazy style
my input matters!!!!!!
That is a ton of kills either way
YUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I got a nuke
didn't drop cuz SHORAD spam
but
Ground must be hell if 16k takes two hours 💀
You didn’t apply to join the CBT , did you?
Yep! But not now
Yes
i did
all the way back when it first got announced
Oh damn I dunno. Must not like you.
it doesnt like me because i dont play ground
Damn that's fair enough
holy moly I need, in the upcoming boxes
I’m mad about it
I want the F-16XL if they ever add it. Honestly that’s the only version of the Falcon that I like
hopefully it's an event vehicle
I’d feed the snail for that one
I will too, but I'd rather just give 2 weeks of my life isntead of money
I just don’t have 2 weeks to give
Is it just like RWR stuff or can it be other stuff too?
Oh it’s everything
Whole sound rework
The autocannon sound was so punchy, I loved it
Now it’s gone…
Another F-16...
F-16s are the new F-5 family
bruh it's already in the game, it's just a skin
oh lmao
GOD FUCKING DAMMIT I MISSED IT
I was too tired to pkay yesterday, and the snail fucked me
Hehehehe
Rank 7 is a really fun place to be
How useful is radar slaving for IR seekers?
What br is ts
Do you get like 2 heaters then
Yuh
The main problem I have atm is bleeding speed and blacking out
Deltas are weird sometimes
just something I gotta get used to ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Learning to look behind me for sneaky people with missiles
Make sure you upgrade the crew
Least SU-30 maxxed top tier game
oops
He looks so sad
What is it with people despising landing gear in this game
belly is faster
Faster
wtf
Yeah still ended up shooting down 4 grom bombs 😭
you can filter radar now
Ooooooooo I’m gripen it
Maybe he’s got no missiles
IIRC you have been able to since the radar UI change, but I think they finally fixed it
yes. I believe you are right
Me when in in an absolutely braindead lobotomite competition and my opponents are F-15 and Su-30 players (applies to all flight sims)
Infantry was the April fools ig
Like a week in advance, and only for like one night?
I don’t think so
They usually announce it the day of
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considering where f-35a's and b's would go in britains tree
im thinking the a would be after the tornado f3 late? itd be weird to put it after the typhoons i think
and the b after the super hornet? or maybe the harrier gr7
depends on if its a royal navy one or not ig
wait does uk only operate bs
i swear the raf did A
b would 100% be after the harrier
and marines and navy did b
raf also got B's but are proccuring A's soon™
well in that case its definitely after the harrier so im set
grrrr
hope they start adding alot more canadian stuff to the tree and alot more australian
that's prolly how the british tree is gonna get 35A
through australlia
oh true???
I have a list somewhere of where all the F-35s would go lemme find it
wow the fulcrum fm feels very nice
spoiler: everyone but russia, china, and maybe germany gets one
but yeah afaik the order is:
USA Tree:
- USA: F-35A, F-35B, F-35C (Block 4 may be a thing)
Germany Tree: - Germany: F-35A (On order)
- Switzerland: F-35A (On order)
Great Britain Tree: - Britain: F-35B (F-35A on order)
- Australia: F-35A
- Canada: F-35A (On order)
Japan Tree: - Japan: F-35A, F-35B (Only 3 B's have been delievered so sorta on order)
Italy Tree: - Italy: F-35A, F-35B
France Tree: - Belgium: F-35A
- Netherland: F-35A
Sweden Tree: - Norway: F-35A
- Finland: F-35A (Block 4 on order)
Israel Tree: - Irsrael: F-35I
why did russia get a worse tech tree fulcrum this update lol?
people wanted a low tech mig-29 with R-73s
which im noticing it doesnt have..
before there was the 12.7 mig-29 that had r-60s which was really odd and just a by product of an old balancing decision ages ago
so this update it got r-73s and was bumped up to 13.0
and they also added a mig-29 that is practically like the old one where it's at 12.7 with no r-73s
I think the only other difference is that it has a slightly less pronounced spine for less gas
Which is funny cause you can go through each tech tree fulcrum and see their spine progressively get larger lmao
Ah hell nah
Give us the india sub tree
Fuck that u.s. tree part 2 ahh shi
are these bots
?
it sure does for every other plane on the team
It shows you what loadout you have selected for that aircraft
Its just the stat card
If you dont have the aircraft researched then its going to show the lowest possible default loadout

I want to understand the enemy.
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Krieger if he was cool
Can’t be
Krieger is a meta slave there is no love for the game.
@undone needle
Any air sim guys in here?
My love is shooting F-18s with mach 5 telephone poles 100° HOBS
Missile bussin
https://x.com/WarThunder/status/2039028952707019185 <@&1278618075792539648> April Fools event launch window
many speculate it's going to be Stealth Fighter event
wouldn't be surprised
maybe modern IR missiles
who knows April fools events are usually testing something coming soon so
I doubt it'll be so obvious like "here is f-22/f-35/su-57/j-20"
There was only 1 event like that out of the 13 years
Oil the wheel
Top up the sunflower seeds
Put him back in duty
Hamster sim
My guess is it'll be a systems test, if it's stealth they'll do something silly like a stealth UAV in a goofy themed ground mode or a UFO/Aliens vs 4th gens and they test that there.
Could also be HARMs testing
Even the most nonsenical one of recent (MAD MAX Event) was to test dynamic weather and dynamic vehicle parts destruction
the former has been half implemented in the form of "bad weather" matches and the later is fully implemented for decorations/wheels on cars/random bits and bobs on tanks.
yet the actual gamemode was an "extraction style" vehicle combat game
I have achieved rank 2 american air!
could be more of an infantry-centered playtest since that seems like the biggest feature they're trying to push out this year
I dunno what you guys saying bout long grinds this shi easy af
Could be, but the last april fools event was already that (Tank/AI infantry interactions) in the form of a WW1 mode.
and we have had 2 CBT's after
I doubt they'd run a 4th test
gets harder, costs for mods/vehicles increases multiplicatively. I'd say it becomes like "rough" around Rank IV/V depending on ur skill
we kinda already had that though with the mech mode and the ww1 event
plus two CBTs
Yea i'm kidding I know i've got it so easy rn ahaha
i agree with shuttles saying itll probably be some goofy sci fi event testing stealth/harms/some modern aviation thing they want to impliment
It's nice that it's easy on the low end tho, I recommend trying like 3-4 countries out to rank 3 or sumn
just to get a well rounded idea/concept of all the different types of fighters/attackers/bombers
Zelinski plen
what did the my little pony event accomplish
Yeah I think i'm gonna try out germany next when I get bored grinding USA
fun
BF-109 go brrrr
it was also like one of the first few.
some argue it was the first like "jets" test
in terms of pacing/map size
could be yeah
They hauled ass
for the 10 year anni they had a cool little muesuem in the main menu u could walk around
for air/ground hangars
had all the april fools vehicles/stuff
Hamster ball ground mode
I dont see it being stealth anything at all, my bet is its another pop culture event like 2077 or dune were
what's pop culturey this year
the odyssey?
2077 was the recon drone/APS/top-attack/FnF ATGM test
The dune one was just "big map" vehicle test cuz the scale was HUGE thanks to rail guns
More goon thunder
Not that its not going to be a test, just not stealth, we are to close to that already (and its been tested)
ye
I think it'd sooner be HARMS
Id like to see inter aircraft datalink
datalink would be tuff
i think theres a chance of modern IR missiles maybe possibly
There's no way in hell they add something they are gonna add in the near future anyway
That's what I want for Christmas
ive seen enough, add pantsir smsv to china
I mag dump any SPAA capable of interception.