#War Thunder

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formal sable
nova crown
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Which one?

formal sable
nova crown
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Those will have pretty different play styles, the hornet when played at br or in a decent downtier should feel slower paced but its up tiers are brutal. Su30 is in a really good spot, second best rank 8 premium and will teach you fox 3s

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I honestly wouldnt bother with the hornet until you finish the Russian tree

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The su30 will take time to learn but once you can get 2 or 3 kills a match the grind should start flowin

fleet halo
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yeah the 13.3 flanker for the USSR is a rape machine when you get decent at it

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the downtiers are a cakewalk and the uptiers aren't that bad

formal sable
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I have a parasitical relationship with the US tree. It was my first love, and I want to grind the attackers out, but I may focus on USSR, especially if it’s easier.

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I know the few kills I’ve gotten have massively pushed my tree forward.

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This is the one I have

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What would be optimal range for the Fox-3s?

fleet halo
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the r-77s for that thing aren't the best so expect around 8ish miles for on the deck shots but can go up to around 15ish against people going high and fast

formal sable
formal sable
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I kind of understand that the Flanker is a better knife fighter, especially with the HMD. When I found it had that, I went absolutely ham.

fleet halo
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1 is the "max" range (if the target literally does no maunevering or anyting to counter). 3 is the section you want to be firing in cause missile is most likely to hit

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2 is sorta your aircraft's current position in relation to the dlz (so you want 2 inside of 3)

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and 4 is the min range

fleet halo
fleet halo
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that thing alone gives you a huge advantage in downtiers

golden hull
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lowkey i’ve never noticed that in wt

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have i been missing ball

fleet halo
golden hull
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i just be thinking “he’s at 20km ima fire”

formal sable
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Thats a lot of RP for doing literally nothing.

formal sable
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Not bad!

eager sluice
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good enough

gusty sedge
eager sluice
gusty sedge
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I don't think I've gotten a single TT match with rafales on the other team

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But Germany US and USSR are almost always on both

fleet halo
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the other day I had a match with like 6-7 rafales on the other team which was wild

real oak
fleet halo
nova crown
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im crine the F(fuck ahh)-16 event vehicle is in the the su-30 downtier

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it dont get much better than ts

misty scaffold
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F-20 in the realm of top tier downtiers is sad

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I want an F-20 in DCS or VTOL, but I don't want it to suck like it does in WT

fleet halo
nova crown
turbid cradle
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su30 premium brain damage

nova crown
mossy marten
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They need to be harder victims

nova crown
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total f-16A death

misty scaffold
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F-16As are sexy

golden hull
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so I was waiting to buy the f-14 iriaf until spring break

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then the conflict happened

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and now its over $200

fleet halo
golden hull
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oh rlly?

fleet halo
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it's a very good aircraft for its br so it's been one of the more expensive event vehicles for air

golden hull
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last time i checked pricce was pre christmas ngl

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it was like 70 or so i thikn

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maybe im tripping tho

turbid cradle
fleet halo
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they made the 120D slightly heavy than the C-5 now

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which I'm sure it's realistic but it's officially now a slightly worse C-5 when it comes to range

fleet halo
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oh nvm it is more maneuverable now

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120D is orange

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not by much

misty scaffold
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Can you throw the 120B in there too?

fleet halo
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120A and 120B are the exact same

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the only difference is their name

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for war thunder at least

misty scaffold
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oh

real oak
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cooked ahh missile

gusty sedge
real oak
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yeah, homophobic ahh missile 🥀

formal sable
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Fucking russian bias

next kestrel
formal sable
eager sluice
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okay so how tf does chaffing in war thunder work

cause I'm doing it like you'd do in VTOL and it's not working

real oak
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look aat the replay

gusty sedge
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Ammount of chaff is not very important, I usually do 1 chaff per second for 5 ish seconds while pulling max g up or down

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repeat until MAWS/RWR clear

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If you are trying to chaff CW missiles you are just a little cooked, they need to be chaffed quite early or they will just keep guiding

eager sluice
real oak
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foxx1 or 3?

toxic valley
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Missiles also will keep trying relentlessly to find you again which i dont think they do in vtol as much right?

real oak
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yeah

toxic valley
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Its crucial to keep yourself moving for ARH’s in WT, every chaff you need to reposition so youre not found again bc unfortunately alot of the missiles in WT are very smart and know if their target suddenly stops moving then the real target must be ahead of that

toxic valley
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Bc ever since that one update shortly after 9M’s were added they just act like any other missiles same with R-73’s and ir MICA

eager sluice
toxic valley
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Allgedly

gusty sedge
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Not a thing in WT

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I think you mean the Magic 2

toxic valley
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Magic 2 is what i meant

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I dont have them so i forgot what it was

gusty sedge
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IR mica would be pretty sick

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Probably gonna be released with the IRIS-T

mossy marten
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9M’s use seeker shutoff so to flare them you have to flare and then change direction of ur direction change.

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So like if ur pulling up u flare and then jink quickly in another direction that would be apparent from the missiles POV

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ARH’s in war thunder use the same seeker shutoff logic for higher end missiles.

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I immediately got better at notching everything when I just started treating ARH’s like 9M’s

toxic valley
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Iirc their seeker shutoff is much more rapid tho more like many blinks rather than shutting your eyes

mossy marten
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Regardless it’s the same technique either way you look at it. I don’t need to be surgical in my understanding. I just know what works.

toxic valley
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Back to the 9M IRCCM did that ever get readded?

mossy marten
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9M’s still just use seeker shutoff

toxic valley
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Do they actually still or are they just supposed to

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Ik they for sure did when the update dropped

mossy marten
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They’ve never been nerfed to my knowledge

toxic valley
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I can drop one flare with burner and lose them now

mossy marten
toxic valley
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Any missile for that matter

mossy marten
toxic valley
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FGR.2, Tornado, Typhoon, Harrier

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Or rather maybe not one flare but one pop

mossy marten
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9Ms are still really really strong given their strength isn’t dependent on being rear aspect like gatewidth heaters

toxic valley
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Maybe for the typhoon since im constantly manuevering hard its losing me but idk about the others

toxic valley
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I still tend to dump CMs whenever a missile is shot till im below 50 tho

gusty sedge
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Harrier produces the equivalent heat output of 2.67 suns

mossy marten
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14A is so fucking funny because if a gatewidth middle of ANY kind sees you within like 10km you just fucking die.

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Shit bruh an R-60 at maximum allowable range will still kill you.

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I think you can nearly all aspect 14A’s with most rear aspect missiles

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In a usable range.

fleet halo
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I hope the pilot is ok

placid sail
mossy marten
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@frail crag did u see the new centauro stats

mossy marten
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<@&1278618075792539648> cool decal for the month

toxic valley
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I GOTTA PLAY GROUND RB

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I HAVE THE A-4

frail crag
mossy marten
frail crag
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GLORIA ALLE FORZE ARMATE D'ITALIA! UN'ONDATA DI ACCIAIO INCROCIATO! LA FURIA ROMANA SCHIACCE TUTTI I NEMICI!!

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🇮🇹 🇮🇹 🇮🇹 🇮🇹 🇮🇹

formal sable
toxic valley
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That type shit im ALWAYS on

hushed rain
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is the pl12a even liek

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any better than the pl12

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I haven't heard anyone talk about it

golden hull
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mane i just try to get into higher tier ground rb and these nerds all they do is hold angles ts just not fun compared to like the 5-7 rating

formal sable
formal sable
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Taxes just hit, I am going to get one prem of any type. What should I get?

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People that buy this now are on crack, and not the good kind

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The fact that they dont give the UK a good top tier preem is maddening. You can't tell me that the cream of the crop of the RAF is a mig 21 and an F-18, especially when the Typhoon exists.

toxic valley
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i think it should be a tornado f.2

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or if they wanna go crazy typhoon fg.2

formal sable
toxic valley
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isnt

formal sable
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Oh you said F2, my bad

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You think a Tornado would be competitive at the top?

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OMFG maybe if my eyes worked, I would have seen that there already is one close

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I am unfamiliar with the British tree, my bad

fleet halo
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mig-21 at 12.3 with r-27s and r-73s

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its only downside is that it gets up tired against the 13.3 flankers now but it's prolly still a solid grinder

golden hull
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ive just cfit 3x in a row

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wtf is wrong with me

fleet halo
golden hull
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2x in f-2a (i blacked out)

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once in f4 becasue im just dumb

fleet halo
formal sable
fleet halo
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controlled flight into terrain

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crashing and it yo fault

toxic valley
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while being rank 7

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Tornado F.2 is like the if gaijin was epic option Typhoon FG.2 is the total gaijin obliteration option

hushed rain
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kept it around for a while

toxic valley
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Didnt they just get a dutch falcon

eager sluice
nova crown
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only the SU-30s are better

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and after having 3 air trees its still my favorite jet to play hands down

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I have more fun in that than even tech tree jets

formal sable
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I think you’ve convinced me. I just need to learn the foibles of the mig 21.

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I may also pick up the F-4 as a bomb truck

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Hey why am I blue now. I want my red back

real oak
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Or at least never get slow

formal sable
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21?

gusty sedge
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either 😭

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21 and 4 both bleed energy like hell

turbid cradle
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21 can at least win a 1c

formal sable
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Noted

formal sable
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Would R-73s be the better choice?

nova crown
formal sable
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Ye

nova crown
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I dont know if it let's you use 4 r73s but I wouldnt

formal sable
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It does not

nova crown
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2 r-27Rs and 2 r73s

formal sable
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I wonder if it will let me create that. I feel like it only has 2 pylons, and a center tank

nova crown
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The r27R is a really good missile within about 6km or 3ish Mi, it has a datalink so even if your radar drops and reacquires it will stick to the target,

The r73 is probably the second best ir missile in the game, it has irrcm so it can be flare resistant but usually only in rear aspect. It also thrust vectors which results in some really nuts shots in dogfights, especially using the hmcs, and at 12.3 its beyond what people expect especially in down tiers

The r27T is really situational, its the same kinematically as the R variant but essentially has a narrower fov r73 seeker. It gives you an option to do some longer range fire and forget but has the same drawback of really only being flare resistant in rear aspect which results in a trashed missile even if your target just happens to fire their own missile/rockets or whatever

nova crown
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You get two r27s and two r73s

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4 total missiles

mossy marten
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I like the MiG-23ML rn

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It was disgusting on release years ago and then sorta fell off as the F-16’s and more modern fighters came into the game and now that there’s enough separation it’s pretty good again.

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The trick is having to wrestle the radar into doing what you want but if you do you get evil rape missile.

formal sable
mossy marten
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R-24R’s have the stickyness of E2DF’s but waaaay better kinetics

nova crown
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If your going to hop on the bison grind and want some guidance or just see how i play it we can always hop im a vc some time

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Like any top tier it will take some getting used to, and the right keybinds also matter

formal sable
nova crown
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Ill be in vc for sure so just shoot a ping or hop in whenever

formal sable
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Oh my god why can’t I find the Phantom in the store

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Found it

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It is done.

formal sable
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hehehe

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The US preem one

golden hull
formal sable
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Really?

golden hull
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it just gets up rated a lot but still very good

formal sable
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Hmmm

golden hull
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yeah i run 5 sparrows with 2 aim 9

formal sable
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What about energy retention?

golden hull
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it sucks i just use missles then rtb when out

formal sable
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Do you usually survuve that? Do you have to get into the missile brawl that always starts?

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I'm sorry for all the questions, I just want to know before I drop $80 on a bunch of pixels

golden hull
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i sorta climb and side climb a lil

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kinda like this vid

formal sable
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Oh sweet!

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Thanks

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Oh shit this Phantom has Agile Eagle!

formal sable
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I doubt that this 400 liter drop tank only weighs 70 kilos.

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The Bison has a jammer suite. Gaijin, EW WHEN???

narrow ermine
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flying a heli in PvE is honestly kinda chill ngl

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relaxing break from the grind

gusty sedge
narrow ermine
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depends

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what BR?

gusty sedge
narrow ermine
gusty sedge
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Lore accurate AMRAAM

formal sable
nova crown
formal sable
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For sure

dapper osprey
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Super Hornet lost its IRST pod?

dapper osprey
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Hmmm the Sweden air grind is calling me

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Rawdog no premium

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Must acquire gripen e

narrow ermine
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good luck my friend

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where in the tree are you starting from?

formal sable
dapper osprey
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Reserve

formal sable
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Hell yeah

dapper osprey
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Cleaning for an hour-ish then I’ll hop on

narrow ermine
dapper osprey
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Need to purchase x amount of planes from one to get to the next

narrow ermine
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yeah

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and for sweden that means legit every plane in every rank

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almost at least

gusty sedge
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@fleet halo

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Not foldered 😭

gusty sedge
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We ball

eager sluice
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also project hailmary was a good movie

gusty sedge
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only complaint for me is the ship design makes no sense

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in the book its tiny because of the rocket equation

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no holodecks

fleet halo
real oak
gusty sedge
fleet halo
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yeah

gusty sedge
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Imo HOBS performance is doodoo

fleet halo
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been having good games with them but can't really tell if they're better

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they seem to be more notch resistant?

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in the sense that they still get notched but are better at reaquiring

gusty sedge
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They should be with the GPS stuff

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Although I think the INS drift they have modeled must be extremely excessive for it to make a difference

fleet halo
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yeah I only had one kill so far where I could clearly see that it seemed to reaquire in a situation that I wasn't used to it reaquiring in

misty scaffold
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Figures the week I’m gone the update comes out

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Is US top tier not doo doo anymore?

eager sluice
misty scaffold
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What about A/G stuff?

eager sluice
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JSOW and SLAM-ER

misty scaffold
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Nice!

formal sable
dapper osprey
real oak
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@fleet halo

dapper osprey
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“Afroma” lol

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Did he not have enough characters or smth?

real oak
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@fleet halo @fleet halo @fleet halo @fleet halo @fleet halo @fleet halo @fleet halo @fleet halo @fleet halo @fleet halo

placid sail
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@fleet halo @d-167

mossy marten
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PL-12A’s are awesome.

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J-10C is also even better now.

dapper osprey
mossy marten
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Glory to china.

dapper osprey
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Xi Jinping’s most loyal pig

mossy marten
mossy marten
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Also

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The new premium Chinese tank is probably the best tank at its BR

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gen3 therm/DTC-10-125/IR Track and proxy HE/great armor/fast as shit/neutral steering/6.7s auto loader

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Paired with the Khalid that 2 tank lineup looks insane

golden hull
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aim 7p doing 3 crits in one game

nova crown
fleet halo
nova crown
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full uptier btw

mossy marten
gusty sedge
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Fuck it we ball @fleet halo @real oak

dapper osprey
hushed rain
formal sable
formal sable
mossy marten
formal sable
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Wait, WT got DDoS'd?

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Insane. All but 2 of the new vehicles are preems.

misty scaffold
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T-50 tank or T-50 like tyro?

mossy marten
mossy marten
misty scaffold
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Damn 😔

nova crown
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Gaijin will discover the F/A-50 at some point, it will be a 11.7 premium and will be DOA

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Except for maybe in ground

misty scaffold
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It can carry a good amount of stuff, I think it would be a neat addition.

nova crown
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And with a worse flight model then an f16 it can only go to 11.7

mossy marten
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AMX but supersonic

nova crown
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Amx/hawk tuah (209)++

misty scaffold
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I would buy it just for the looks lol

mossy marten
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L-39

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But fat

misty scaffold
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Good looking

nova crown
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There are a few with amraam but like

mossy marten
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Joe likes em plump

nova crown
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Its doa at 13.3

mossy marten
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Plump in da right places

misty scaffold
nova crown
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An amraam fa50 at 13.0 might actually be really cool

misty scaffold
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If they would give the F-20 its 120As it would be really nice at 12.X

(F20 in VTOL when, Joe)

mossy marten
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When are we getting helicopter mounted AMRAAM-ER

nova crown
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No amraams below 13.0

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I'd be picketing outside gaijin hq if that happened

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Gaijin could make the f20 more realistic by removing it from the game

misty scaffold
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I’m gonna add it to VTOL eventually

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And it’s gonna be MY version of it, with PGMs

fleet halo
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operation epic fury day 1

misty scaffold
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Operation Epic Furry

gusty sedge
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Maduro gaymin.

formal sable
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Muh...muh...muh headlight armor!

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@nova crown Hey, whats the sound pack you use?

nova crown
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should be this

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formal sable
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Bless

nova crown
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its out of date with the new update so new vehicles may have no sound

formal sable
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Well, I don't have new vehicles, so thats ok

dapper osprey
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Does the gripen get its turbo whine?

formal sable
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Oh my god, even just the hangar sounds amazing

formal sable
formal sable
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I'm gonna cream. This sounds so juicy. It has presence. I should have done this years ago.

dapper osprey
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dude how did you test it

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i need to hear this

formal sable
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Test flight through Sweden's tree. The Gripen is 13.3

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Its the highest in the Preem line

dapper osprey
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How’d you hear the turbo whine tho

formal sable
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No AESA? Hmmm...

dapper osprey
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I thought it was only on flyby?

formal sable
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I mean, I am plastering AI MiGs with RB 99s, so...

gusty sedge
dapper osprey
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Insert JoCat “SMITE!!!”

formal sable
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That’s insane

nova crown
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Old ahh article i found but apparently India shot MICAs off their su30

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A tvc su30 fwiw

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A brilliant 14.7 idea for the uk

fleet halo
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india tree would go wild if it wasn't for the fact that they got into the aircraft game pretty late

nova crown
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So it goes under the uk

fleet halo
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would grind uk in a heartbeat if they added rafale

nova crown
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It also shoots the domestic Indian ASTRAs

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Which are amraam competitive range wise (Wikipedia)

fleet halo
nova crown
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Nah its not the u.s. tree it would be busted

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It also has a domestic Indian aesa

fleet halo
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what else would india get in a branch

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jaguars?

nova crown
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Rafael, su 30, tejas, mig29

fleet halo
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holy moly

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british tree would actually just be goated

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only things it would be missing would be f-16s and f-15s at that point lmao

eager sluice
nova crown
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Honestly I would just love the mica su30 with an aesa

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Hope it comes out right when Krieger finishes russia air

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(Its never happening)

turbid cradle
fleet halo
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also holy moly I've been eating good today

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went from 730 kills and 276 deaths to 769 kills and 278 deaths

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39 and 2 🗣️

fleet halo
eager sluice
fleet halo
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It's like the only radar I run src pd mode on the regular just because of the larger vert scan volume

eager sluice
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I mean I can lock people just fine, I just can't get close and fire my 2 mica's

fleet halo
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ah rip

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I wouldnt worry about stats during stock grind

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only having 2 fox-3s is painful

turbid cradle
eager sluice
fleet halo
# fleet halo ah rip

@eager sluice after I finished typing up these messages I tabbed back in to war thunder and there was a missile on my rwr

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so I instantly started pulling to the left and heard it woosh by behind me (wasn't chaffing)

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looked at the replay and it turned out it was a fakour

eager sluice
turbid cradle
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I just use ccrp and toss them across the map before the missile spam

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but sometimes that means the bases get stolen

eager sluice
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I'm not a bad player but I still can't consistantly chaff

fleet halo
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do you be doin this to the missiles

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I normally try to start them on my 3/9 line then slowly turn to get them a bit past it

eager sluice
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Yes, deploy chaff in the beam, and turn up/down to get outside the reacquire cone

fleet halo
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all while chaffing

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ah damn

gusty sedge
fleet halo
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@gusty sedge have you also been getting constant uptiers

gusty sedge
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nah

fleet halo
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lies

eager sluice
gusty sedge
fleet halo
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now I know you're lying

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they probably just have me in sbmm

fleet halo
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not how you use that gif

gusty sedge
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@fleet halo what aircraft you grindin rn?

hushed rain
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theyre totally gonna add this shit arent they

gusty sedge
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MOG MOG MOG

fleet halo
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yeah I had one of those earlier too

gusty sedge
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we need a flanker edit to post

formal sable
nova crown
dapper osprey
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So for grinding Sweden I save for the JA37 and wait for a premium acc sale?

hushed rain
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viggen premium kinda sucks

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get the j35xs or just grind with prem account

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i got to rank 5 with no prem vehicle in like a nice week of grinding

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its a fun tree and pretty short

dapper osprey
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Kk

hushed rain
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plus you get those stupid uhh

dapper osprey
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The got dam uhhhhhhh

hushed rain
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the 13.2mm

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guns

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on the props

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are stupid good

dapper osprey
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I only have the 2.0 one with 2 .50s😭

hushed rain
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HE frag tracer-HE frag tracer-AP-HE frag tracer belts

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they just dunk on shit

formal sable
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I just learned that the Aim-9L was sometimes called the “I wish you were dead” missile by Eagle crews

dapper osprey
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How come?

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Unreliable?

fleet halo
gusty sedge
# fleet halo

I figured you were close considering you did 12+ hours straight 😭

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Congrats

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I shall catch up tomorrow

turbid cradle
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yo arnold calm down

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the line was "I love people from all kinds of backgrounds"

mossy marten
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oh yeeee

nova crown
misty scaffold
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POV: US Navy circa 1979 (plus a few odds out)

turbid cradle
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some stupid fuckass bug that causes your plane to explode instantly after firing a missile

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w

real oak
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instant prox fuse 😭

nova crown
turbid cradle
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especially in a 1g level flight at 30k in the pobit

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w self destruct button

misty scaffold
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Welcome back legacy hornet missile bug

toxic valley
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Intern had the funniest idea

dapper osprey
formal sable
formal sable
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F18 is in early early trials

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May have been shenanigans with time travel involved

dapper osprey
formal sable
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Indeed lol

formal sable
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Side note, has anyone heard anything about the April fools event?

dapper osprey
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Jack n’ shit

formal sable
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https://wt.link/infantry_cbt2

Today, we’re pleased to announce the second phase of Closed Beta Testing (CBT) for War Thunder Infantry. What can you expect? Solo gameplay with no bot squads, new missions, a new location, numerous improvements, new mechanics and weapons are ready for you.

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toxic valley
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wait they actually listened 🤨

formal sable
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Definitely took their time, I hope in a good way

gusty sedge
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MADURO

hushed rain
formal sable
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32 days oof

hushed rain
nova crown
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How many hrs have you out into wt the last 4 days

gusty sedge
mossy marten
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Yoooo

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that infantry trailer

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so fucking sick

formal sable
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It really is

formal sable
gusty sedge
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I get very target fixated and lock in

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My goal was to chill and grind it over the course of a few weeks

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But then I got carried away

formal sable
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I think a major part of my problem is that I can't see very well. I'm recently blind in one eye, and my GPU doesnt have enough resolution to let me see well.

gusty sedge
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🤑 🤑 🤑 🤑

dapper osprey
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Chills🥶

formal sable
gusty sedge
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But R-77s are pretty garbage

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The -1 are sweet though

fleet halo
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while RVV-SD's are export R-77-1's

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the su-30 for the japan tree is the only one I know off the top of my head that has the SD's but there's prolly others

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but a majority of russian aircraft operated by non-russian countries in war thunder use the AE's

formal sable
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Yeah like the Venezuelan Su

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They are “alright”.

gusty sedge
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Lore accurate

gusty sedge
formal sable
gusty sedge
formal sable
eager sluice
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finally some kills😭

devout heath
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Hey so if I pick up war thunder and am basically starting from nothing, where should I start?? Any and all advice is welcome even if it's just a YT vid or some small QOL tips.

formal sable
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Air, or ground?

devout heath
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Air mainly. I'm not too fussed about ground or Naval. Cool as they are

formal sable
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Rip ground is better (it’s all personal preference)

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Do you have a particular nation in mind?

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I’d think about getting one of the starter packs so you can start rolling up the premium plane benefits

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They usually are priced pretty low, like $10 USD

eager sluice
formal sable
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I know, but it’s something while he starts out.

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I thought you didn’t lose efficiency with preems

eager sluice
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you do

other wise I'd be using my nf-5a for the rafale😭
but I have to suffer in my f-16a

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but for early on I'd just start by playing, see if you actually like it

devout heath
# formal sable Do you have a particular nation in mind?

Not really. I want to get into jets properly (shocker I know) but I just want to understand this game cause when I played it years and years ago (before ground was a thing) 90% of the different things in the game went completely over my head and I've just never understood it. It's very overwhelming coming back to it lol

devout heath
formal sable
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And give other nations a try, you might like a second choice more. Keep in mind the jets you want, too. Make sure they are in the nation you pick.

devout heath
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mossy marten
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Air grind is easier/faster

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Ground is a good bit slower

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What is it that you want in war thunder

nova crown
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Im in the boat that trying to grind a air tree bottom up is a waste of your time and you will lose interest before you get to where you want to be, treat war thunder like a real game and drop real game money on a real premium either on sale or whenever

gusty sedge
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Although I think you have to be at rank 3 or smth

golden hull
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i lowkey didn’t rlly enjoy warthunder as much as i do now until i got to like 10.0+ in air ngl

devout heath
golden hull
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props just played too slow for me to enjoy that much, i wouldn’t hate on buying a jet plane if that’s what you really want ngl

nova crown
gusty sedge
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Then you gotta go the bitzs route, because you WILL be playing 300 hours of props otherwise

devout heath
nova crown
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Since your brand new something at like 11.0 max, the f-5c (u.s.) or the mig 21s in china or Germany are all good options

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If you go much higher the learning curve advances significantly

golden hull
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i’d recommend the f4s but it gets up tiered so much to 13.0 it prolly isn’t worth for a new player

gusty sedge
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Don't be an F-4S chud please boohoo

nova crown
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If you want to ball out and just be a thug until you get good you can go higher, but below 11.0 you wont get smacked by random radar guided missiles, or crazy fox 2s, its still like a 60% guns only game

gusty sedge
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The F-5s are goated, it's pure ACM

devout heath
gusty sedge
nova crown
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If you have disposable income it isnt crazy to jump into something straight away just expect to learn before you start doing amazing

devout heath
gusty sedge
devout heath
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I guess I don't want to just be one of those guys getting a premium early on but if that's the way to realistically not have to spend my entire life playing this game I shall have to feed the snail lol

golden hull
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idk i like the plane tho and i usually do good

nova crown
gusty sedge
golden hull
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yeah the amount of teammates i see just climb straight toward the enemy and not even try to notch is crazy

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side climbing the f4s is so goated tho

mossy marten
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@devout heath at some point u should catch me in a VC before or after u make ur purchase. I’ve got somewhere ~5k hours on and off steam and I can share some insight that’ll ease ur first tech tree.

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If it’s before I can def point u the right way.

devout heath
gusty sedge
devout heath
golden hull
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i hate premium base bombers who lack a brain

gusty sedge
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Nah I love them free kills frfr

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Especially premium A-10s in an F-5 of any kind

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That's just free rp right there

fleet halo
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air arcade is a lot of fun

nova crown
devout heath
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Tbf all the nation starter packs are 50% off rn

fleet halo
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but yeah when you get to early jets you sorta hit a brick wall grind-wise and sorta have to get a premium account to do the rest

fleet halo
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but yeah if you dont care for ww2 stuff and just want to get to the top then getting a rank 7 prem is the move (preferably one without radar missiles imo)

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it forces you to still learn the basics of the game and getting good with guns and then you can learn more about sarh then arh once you unlock those jets

nova crown
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This may be best done by playing regular tech tree air until a sale

fleet halo
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true

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air arcade is a lot of fun and a viable grind method for early br's and it gives you the excuse to play a huge variety of aircraft

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then you can make a transition to realistic when you're comfortable gunning in late ww2 but I never really did that until early jets cause I sucked ass

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around the f-104 is when I caved and got premium cause it got to the point where I was essentially hard stuck there cause of rep costs lmao

fleet halo
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@nova crown got to creating some presets

formal sable
devout heath
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Which squadron vehicle should I leave researching?

fleet halo
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defintely a top tier one because by the time you're done researching a squadron vehicle you'll probably be there lmao

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The mig-29m for russia looks pretty beast mode

devout heath
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I meab there's some low-mid tier ones and then you've got a gripen and an F-16 which is crazy

fleet halo
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the gripen isn't all tha but it's cool

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the gripen d specifically

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jf-17 is also cool

devout heath
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the jf-17 is cool

formal sable
devout heath
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but the F16 for france is kinda tight tho no?

devout heath
devout heath
formal sable
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Complete side note: what should I put as my PC wallpaper? Time sensitive, asking for a friend

devout heath
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A model

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Fox 2 only

formal sable
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This isn't google, oops

fleet halo
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JF-17, Gripen D, and Mig-29M all carry fox-3s (jf-17 is particularly nasty cause it's at 13.3)

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su-33 can also be fun but it only got Fox-1s. Although they're like really good ones

devout heath
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I guess if the gripen isnt that good for sweden I might just leave it on the mig 29

fleet halo
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gripen D and su-33 are both kinda in an odd spot where they're essentially have tech tree equivalents that are better

fleet halo
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but mig-29M can carry 2 additional missiles over the tech tree equivilants and jf-17 is completely unique so those ones are kinda worth grinding for imo

devout heath
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I know that both R27 variants can slap when left unchecked

fleet halo
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although there's a chance that gaijin adds the mig-29k to the tech tree which is the carrier version of the M and afaik that one can also carry 2 additional missiles

devout heath
formal sable
devout heath
formal sable
devout heath
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No worries, it's getting kinda late for me now anyway. Cheers for helping me get setup and back into this game the right way this time lol. I actually feel good making a start this time up the never ending grind mountain unlike previous futile attempts lol

formal sable
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You bet! Remember, it's always more fun to grind with a friend! 😉

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I like tto look every once in awhile, just to laugh

fleet halo
formal sable
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And that was like a week and change, I think

fleet halo
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it was hovering around 90 bucks for the longest time

formal sable
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And then the US did a funny

fleet halo
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not sure if that had much of an effect tbh

formal sable
toxic valley
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The gripens flight model is kinda super fucked

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Idk if the E’s engine fixes it

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Nit in a performance way exactly in a it feels buggy and messy to fly like its unfinished

formal sable
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Ye I get wha tyou're saying

fleet halo
hushed rain
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man i shouldve bought bitcoin in 2008 when i was born

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first thing i shouldve done out of the womb

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on the other hand man i shouldve spent another 10 hours playing war thudner while on vacation with my family to get the ticket upgrade so i could sell it

eager sluice
formal sable
hushed rain
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how about that huh

golden hull
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if only i knew….

hushed rain
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yeah I was in Michigan playing on super low settings sim battles on my shitty laptop

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got the plane and I was like "man i could totally try and get more points to get the ticket upgrade... but I wanna spend time with my family"

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shouldve locked in amh

golden hull
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I was at my grandmas house in the middle of nowhere spain with a phone hotspot and shitty laptop. I decided to get drunk instead of playing war thunder.

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it was just impossible to aim guns with my ping, maybe i could’ve done it if i had higher br planes with missles back then

dapper osprey
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Gripen IRIS-T mounts when

dapper osprey
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Help I can hear the RWR sound in my head whenever a clock ticks

formal sable
formal sable
eager sluice
gusty sedge
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🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

fleet halo
formal sable
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Well fuck

dapper osprey
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ik :(

formal sable
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But in return

mossy marten
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mahshallah

mossy marten
fleet halo
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And with that, the entire US air tree is now grinded

misty scaffold
hushed rain
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sigh everyone but me man

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ive had my account since like 2018 guys pls come on lemme play

mossy marten
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ground battles btw

devout heath
turbid cradle
mossy marten
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my input matters!!!!!!

turbid cradle
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That is a ton of kills either way

mossy marten
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I got a nuke

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didn't drop cuz SHORAD spam

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but

mossy marten
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almost there

mossy marten
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ITS DONE

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LFGGGG

gusty sedge
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Ground must be hell if 16k takes two hours 💀

formal sable
formal sable
hushed rain
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all the way back when it first got announced

formal sable
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Oh damn I dunno. Must not like you.

hushed rain
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it doesnt like me because i dont play ground

devout heath
eager sluice
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holy moly I need, in the upcoming boxes

formal sable
formal sable
eager sluice
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hopefully it's an event vehicle

formal sable
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I’d feed the snail for that one

eager sluice
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I will too, but I'd rather just give 2 weeks of my life isntead of money

formal sable
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I just don’t have 2 weeks to give

devout heath
formal sable
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Whole sound rework

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The autocannon sound was so punchy, I loved it

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Now it’s gone…

misty scaffold
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F-16s are the new F-5 family

eager sluice
misty scaffold
formal sable
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GOD FUCKING DAMMIT I MISSED IT

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I was too tired to pkay yesterday, and the snail fucked me

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Hehehehe

frank wharf
dapper osprey
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I now have the J35XS

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Oh my LORD jets are so much more fun than props

nova crown
dapper osprey
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I’ll be there in a few weeks, hopefully

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Gripen deez nuts

dapper osprey
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How useful is radar slaving for IR seekers?

real oak
dapper osprey
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10.3

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I’m crine😭😭😭

real oak
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Do you get like 2 heaters then

dapper osprey
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Aheh

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Uhhhhh

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6

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I get 12 flares too

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6 9Js

placid sail
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damn 9j's?

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pretty nice

dapper osprey
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Yuh

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The main problem I have atm is bleeding speed and blacking out

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Deltas are weird sometimes

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just something I gotta get used to ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Learning to look behind me for sneaky people with missiles

dapper osprey
nova crown
dapper osprey
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Yup

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First thing I did

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I no longer black out at the “extreme overload” of 4 gs

nova crown
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mhmmmm

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exactly what I thought

gusty sedge
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Least SU-30 maxxed top tier game

dapper osprey
devout heath
formal sable
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What is it with people despising landing gear in this game

eager sluice
toxic valley
nova crown
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They lowk helpful as shi

toxic valley
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Yeah still ended up shooting down 4 grom bombs 😭

hushed rain
toxic valley
dapper osprey
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Ooooooooo I’m gripen it

toxic valley
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its an f-15 that is endlessly running

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even tho he is better at range than i am

dapper osprey
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Maybe he’s got no missiles

toxic valley
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he jsut rearmed

formal sable
dapper osprey
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wtf

toxic valley
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Me when in in an absolutely braindead lobotomite competition and my opponents are F-15 and Su-30 players (applies to all flight sims)

formal sable
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No april fools mentions?

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Are they not doing one this year?

dapper osprey
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Infantry was the April fools ig

formal sable
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Like a week in advance, and only for like one night?

mossy marten
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They usually announce it the day of

nova crown
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Click able cockpit April fools event

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Thats my guess

misty scaffold
toxic valley
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considering where f-35a's and b's would go in britains tree

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im thinking the a would be after the tornado f3 late? itd be weird to put it after the typhoons i think

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and the b after the super hornet? or maybe the harrier gr7

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depends on if its a royal navy one or not ig

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wait does uk only operate bs

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i swear the raf did A

fleet halo
toxic valley
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and marines and navy did b

fleet halo
toxic valley
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well in that case its definitely after the harrier so im set

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hope they start adding alot more canadian stuff to the tree and alot more australian

fleet halo
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through australlia

toxic valley
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oh true???

fleet halo
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I have a list somewhere of where all the F-35s would go lemme find it

toxic valley
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wow the fulcrum fm feels very nice

fleet halo
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spoiler: everyone but russia, china, and maybe germany gets one

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but yeah afaik the order is:
USA Tree:

  • USA: F-35A, F-35B, F-35C (Block 4 may be a thing)
    Germany Tree:
  • Germany: F-35A (On order)
  • Switzerland: F-35A (On order)
    Great Britain Tree:
  • Britain: F-35B (F-35A on order)
  • Australia: F-35A
  • Canada: F-35A (On order)
    Japan Tree:
  • Japan: F-35A, F-35B (Only 3 B's have been delievered so sorta on order)
    Italy Tree:
  • Italy: F-35A, F-35B
    France Tree:
  • Belgium: F-35A
  • Netherland: F-35A
    Sweden Tree:
  • Norway: F-35A
  • Finland: F-35A (Block 4 on order)
    Israel Tree:
  • Irsrael: F-35I
toxic valley
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why did russia get a worse tech tree fulcrum this update lol?

fleet halo
toxic valley
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which im noticing it doesnt have..

fleet halo
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before there was the 12.7 mig-29 that had r-60s which was really odd and just a by product of an old balancing decision ages ago

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so this update it got r-73s and was bumped up to 13.0

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and they also added a mig-29 that is practically like the old one where it's at 12.7 with no r-73s

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I think the only other difference is that it has a slightly less pronounced spine for less gas

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Which is funny cause you can go through each tech tree fulcrum and see their spine progressively get larger lmao

toxic valley
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it also has a worse camo

nova crown
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Give us the india sub tree

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Fuck that u.s. tree part 2 ahh shi

toxic valley
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are these bots

nova crown
toxic valley
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is this a new meta

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why are we taking JUST drop tanks

nova crown
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Buddy

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That screen doesnt show you what your teammates have equipped

toxic valley
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it sure does for every other plane on the team

nova crown
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It shows you what loadout you have selected for that aircraft

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Its just the stat card

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If you dont have the aircraft researched then its going to show the lowest possible default loadout

toxic valley
dapper osprey
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Krieger if he was cool

mossy marten
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Krieger is a meta slave there is no love for the game.

mossy marten
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@undone needle

undone needle
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Any air sim guys in here?

gusty sedge
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My love is shooting F-18s with mach 5 telephone poles 100° HOBS

turbid cradle
mossy marten
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@frank wharf

frank wharf
mossy marten
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many speculate it's going to be Stealth Fighter event

hushed rain
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wouldn't be surprised

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maybe modern IR missiles

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who knows April fools events are usually testing something coming soon so

mossy marten
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I doubt it'll be so obvious like "here is f-22/f-35/su-57/j-20"

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There was only 1 event like that out of the 13 years

fleet halo
mossy marten
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My guess is it'll be a systems test, if it's stealth they'll do something silly like a stealth UAV in a goofy themed ground mode or a UFO/Aliens vs 4th gens and they test that there.

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Could also be HARMs testing

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Even the most nonsenical one of recent (MAD MAX Event) was to test dynamic weather and dynamic vehicle parts destruction

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the former has been half implemented in the form of "bad weather" matches and the later is fully implemented for decorations/wheels on cars/random bits and bobs on tanks.

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yet the actual gamemode was an "extraction style" vehicle combat game

devout heath
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I have achieved rank 2 american air!

fleet halo
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could be more of an infantry-centered playtest since that seems like the biggest feature they're trying to push out this year

devout heath
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I dunno what you guys saying bout long grinds this shi easy af

mossy marten
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and we have had 2 CBT's after

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I doubt they'd run a 4th test

mossy marten
hushed rain
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plus two CBTs

devout heath
hushed rain
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i agree with shuttles saying itll probably be some goofy sci fi event testing stealth/harms/some modern aviation thing they want to impliment

mossy marten
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It's nice that it's easy on the low end tho, I recommend trying like 3-4 countries out to rank 3 or sumn

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just to get a well rounded idea/concept of all the different types of fighters/attackers/bombers

frank wharf
hushed rain
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what did the my little pony event accomplish

devout heath
mossy marten
devout heath
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BF-109 go brrrr

hushed rain
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true

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they should bring it back

mossy marten
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it was also like one of the first few.

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some argue it was the first like "jets" test

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in terms of pacing/map size

hushed rain
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could be yeah

mossy marten
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They hauled ass

mossy marten
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for air/ground hangars

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had all the april fools vehicles/stuff

hushed rain
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i remember

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oh i didnt ever see that i guess

nova crown
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I dont see it being stealth anything at all, my bet is its another pop culture event like 2077 or dune were

fleet halo
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the odyssey?

mossy marten
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The dune one was just "big map" vehicle test cuz the scale was HUGE thanks to rail guns

fleet halo
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GTA 6 event

dapper osprey
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More goon thunder

nova crown
mossy marten
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I think it'd sooner be HARMS

nova crown
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Id like to see inter aircraft datalink

fleet halo
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datalink would be tuff

hushed rain
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i think theres a chance of modern IR missiles maybe possibly

gusty sedge
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There's no way in hell they add something they are gonna add in the near future anyway

formal sable
mossy marten
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@gusty sedge checkts

gusty sedge
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I'm too ARB pilled to know whats goin on

turbid cradle
misty scaffold
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HARMs 👀

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pls gayjin give me Shrikes or give me death

hushed rain
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really did not like that otomatic huh

mossy marten
hushed rain
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well guess you are right next to the rearm

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fair enough

mossy marten
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😭

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@frank wharf first game with new missiles