War Thunder

[wintry copper]

9J's the block 10

ADF gets 9Ls stock

[hushed rain]

uhhh

well i cant find anything saying yes or no

it wouldve made sense for the ADF upgrade package to receive aim9m

so maybe give it 9ms? it already suffers from a worser radar and no HMCS at a single br bracket lower

[misty scaffold]

Anything that can carry the 9L can carry 9M

[golden hull]

unfortunately i will not be unlocking the dart

i keep getting too drunk every night to grind

[hushed rain]

oh are they wired the same

[misty scaffold]

Pretty much. They run on the same rails too.

[fleet halo]

@frail crag @mossy marten finally finished the US air tree

[mossy marten]

Nice

[formal sable]

Hehehe 500 SL booster

[hushed rain]

oh neat i wouldve figured the seeker difference would require some amount of wire changing but makes sense

may as well give ADFs 9ms then

9ls in 13.3 are actually pointless

[formal sable]

I didnt realize that all of this stuff was modeled

[green narwhal]

Bro how long you been playing??

[eager sluice]

RAAHHHHHHHHHH

[formal sable]

Uh...2014

I dont play air very often

[green narwhal]

https://youtu.be/hwGLMlQGYwo?si=29HGd_t3pURRC78C

[real oak]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

im missing 8 sl 💀

[fleet halo]

if I were you I would save up even more to expert your crew for the hornet if that one is gonna be your main for a minute

expert crew makes a huge difference

ace crew even more so

[real oak]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-thinking-monkey-thinking-think-money-gif-9734025314392564509

that gives more g tolerance and shit?

[fleet halo]

yeah which is basically a requirement for top tier

[real oak]

alr

[fleet halo]

idk if you can get away with a normal crew with da hornet specifically

but yeah you black out like all the time without expert

[hushed rain]

well

thats the first 18c

id wait for unlocking the MLU2

then expert

[fleet halo]

ah didnt realize that the one kynanas got was an early one

[mossy marten]

kynanas

🗣️

[fleet halo]

like it only has aim-7s and no fox-3's yeah?

[mossy marten]

yeah

[real oak]

mine has 120b and aim9 m

10 amraams 🤑

[hushed rain]

naur

its got the amraams and stuff its just

the MLU 2 gets c-5 and BOL pods

and ground ordinance

hopefully they actually fix c-5s being dogshit at some point

[gusty sedge]

Please don't expert that one

[real oak]

ill just get the next fa18

[real oak]

ts costs 1m+ and i dont have motion like that so dont worry 🙏

[gusty sedge]

This is why Reagan was right, if the poor don't have money they can't make bad financial decisions 🙏

[turbid cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/money-money-money-money-rain-money-please-gif-17552380

[formal sable]

Hey they finally fixed this

[mossy marten]

real asf

[fleet halo]

after playing a bunch of games of war thunder I have concluded that gaijin has indeed practically removed airfield spawns

I haven't had an airfield spawn in like 10-15 matches in a row for top tier

[misty scaffold]

You can choose spawn loc, it just defaults to air now above 10.7

[fleet halo]

the only airfield spawns are when there's bad weather so you can spawn in the air anyway

[fleet halo]

yeah that's what i'm sayin

there used to be a bunch of matches where airfield was the only option

[misty scaffold]

I like it, especially since it used to be frustrating that better aircraft got air spawns and the F-5C(E) didnt

Now It's equally but less frustrating because now everyone gets air spawns and the F-5 is still slow af

[fleet halo]

I'm talkin like top top tier

[misty scaffold]

no i know

I stopped playing top tier

[fleet halo]

I dont think there's any aircraft in top tier that get airspawns over airfield spawns

[fleet halo]

since when did the hornet have big-ah holes

negative aura points right there

[misty scaffold]

how did you now just find those?

They're bleeds for the boundary layer diverter

half the air goes under the belly, the other half goes in those slots

All hornets have them it's a byproduct of taking the F-5 design and massaging it into the YF-17.

The holes were worse on the 17 tbh

[fleet halo]

idk man just one of those things

[eager sluice]

how on gods green earth have I managed this?

[formal sable]

https://tenor.com/view/throwing-daniel-stahl-sweden-nbc-olympics-discus-throw-gif-22949868

[gusty sedge]

How's the grind going, got the He 162 yet?

[eager sluice]

should be able to

I didn't have enough SL to get 6 in the rank before, so I shifted focus to grinding the event
probably have plenty of SL saved to start grinding for it though

[gusty sedge]

Mhm I would have ground the event but exams and surprise hospitalisations got in the way

[eager sluice]

that is definitely a show stopper

nothing serious I hope?

[gusty sedge]

Only some minor removal of internal organs

ER at 3:45 am is quite the experience

[eager sluice]

you what?

[gusty sedge]

Appendicitis lmao

They cut a hole and snip that thing off

Very painful 👍

[eager sluice]

ah okay

that's as minor as internal organs go

[gusty sedge]

Apparently it does do something to stabilize gut bacteria so it's not entirely useless

(when it's not actively trying to kill you)

[hushed rain]

oh hey

sony dropped aces of thunder release date and price

september 2nd possibly at 24 pounds

so like 30ish dollars US

[dapper osprey]

Fuck I might reinstall

[formal sable]

Is there a demo?

[hushed rain]

not yet

maybe on game release?

[eager sluice]

SHE'S HERE

[fleet halo]

I still need to grind out the last day and buy the first one

so sad that you need to play all 7/7 days instead of the normal 7/8

[eager sluice]

Going from 5.7 german props to this thing is gonna be a doozy

[green narwhal]

True, not sure why they changed the system up to have the camo be one short of the plane and not one extra from the plane

[fleet halo]

https://tenor.com/view/money-mr-krabs-gif-18326632

[formal sable]

I’m just gonna buy it, I think. I want it but I just don’t have the time to grind these things

[green narwhal]

Just ran into an F-16 ADF with 120s playing a 12.3

fuck

[mossy marten]

How is that F-106?

[green narwhal]

still workin on it, missiles look kinda cheeks but its got a vulcan at 9.3 so

[formal sable]

The AIM-4s have to make contact to detonate. They don’t have a prox

[hushed rain]

90% chance the radar ones are gonna be better and just use them at altitude where nobody can turn as fast

[wintry copper]

most people I've talked to have used 3-1 in favor of the IR

[formal sable]

Ive been waiting for this for awhile, but SP rewards are now halved. I dunno if I like that. Time between scoutings in the UAV is abyssmal too.

[green narwhal]

Damn can’t just cap a point in a light tank and then play air anymore. Shame

[formal sable]

I just scout to scout. I usually dont even have a plane in my lineup lol

[mossy marten]

I'm hoping you read it the right way.

If you don't spawn a scout UAV then these changes functionally did not happen

and I think making the SP reward half is 100000% fair and balanced

You're literally an omniscient flying eyeball with thermals in toptier

[mossy marten]

u can just still do that

Yall gotta read bruh, I'm hoping I'm misunderstanding what yall said.

[green narwhal]

I didn’t read anything lol

[formal sable]

I guess thats a fair take

[hushed rain]

snow flavored hornets in british tree

[wintry copper]

BMD-4M2

damn

not like it adds anything new

[formal sable]

Oooh the Nelson

Kinda excited for the BF-109 T2

[frail crag]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/1n3w5i9/mikes_bit_extended_249_leaks/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

@nova crown @mossy marten Buk for RU? 😵‍💫

uh oh

[fleet halo]

damn everyone be getting hornets

[mossy marten]

Not even super hornys

[fleet halo]

one day

[hushed rain]

a6e in leak so you know its real

guys trust itll come this update

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1359604884348866653/1365763469239910490/bounce.gif

[green narwhal]

I’m most excited for the F-5TH TCU tbh, should finally be the F-5 that can carry 4 python 3s

[hushed rain]

all in on gaijin giving it derbys and making it a 13.0

https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-gif-4408076016540863651

thats actually kinda cool looking with the derbys

[green narwhal]

The F-20 we deserve lol

I wouldn’t be mad if it got derby’s

It could carry python 4 and 5 as well but that prolly won’t happen anytime soon

[hushed rain]

python 4s could come kinda soon tbh

its like the same technological jump of the 9m->aam-3 as the aam3->p4

[green narwhal]

Hopefully they give the SCU access to 4 python 3s so it’s actually an upgrade to the FCU and the TCU can get derby

Still don’t understand why they gimped the SCU so hard

[hushed rain]

wouldnt mind seeing them on the f16i

[green narwhal]

They prolly will add them soon yeah, if they don’t wanna push 5th gen yet they gotta bring hype of new weapons. And it wouldn’t make sense for 5th gen to come before these weapons

[dapper osprey]

im fucking relapsing

[mossy marten]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1388712580285206598/1411172328812843118/togif.gif

[dapper osprey]

If anyone’s on I’d be down (I’ve got the premium a10 and the m1 from the winter sale a while back but not much else bc grind is pain)

[formal sable]

https://tenor.com/view/rookie-numbers-gif-26135237

[formal sable]

God, the prem packs are unashamedly highway robbery

Still $35 for the Wyvern

Sorry, $30

[green narwhal]

only buy packs on sale bruh

[formal sable]

I feel like its still obscene

[dapper osprey]

raaaah grinding to get that f14 with no premium account and an a10

[formal sable]

Dude Im grinding out for the Phantom. Stuck at 8.3 currently

I feel your pain

[dapper osprey]

I’m still at rank 3 :)))))

[formal sable]

Gimme a holler next time you play, I’ll see about joining you if you want a wingman

[dapper osprey]

Yes please

I might be on later today

[dapper osprey]

@formal sable might be on in a sec if youre down

[hushed rain]

https://tenor.com/view/table-hit-yakuza-hitting-table-walk-out-gif-15307369

snow flavored hornet is a premium

[green narwhal]

at least you get two aussie hornets in the tree as well

[hushed rain]

yeah but im not an aussie

I don't even have the british tree researched beyond rank 2

[green narwhal]

why upset then, this means you can get it easier lol

[hushed rain]

good lord they gave it Derby's

[hushed rain]

I don't want to spend more money on the game

[hushed rain]

f5th is going to be an interesting plane....

13.0 seems unbalanced for it but 12.7 is too low

[green narwhal]

hell yeah I'm so hyped for it

[gusty sedge]

Aura?

Farmed.

[mossy marten]

Shitnado!!!!

[green narwhal]

Tornado F.3 is lowkey my goat

I fly it like once a month for 3 games and always get an ace

[green narwhal]

The fuckin Fw-190 F-8 is getting ir missiles

[eager sluice]

it gets what now?

[gusty sedge]

Aim 9b equivalent at 5.0 lmaoooo

Probably not gonna stay like it is on the dev server

[hushed rain]

yeah its an entire placeholder thing rn

the X-4 was a guide by wire missile

[gusty sedge]

Would be way funnier if they kept it though

[green narwhal]

It’s wild to me that they would use an ir placeholder instead of like a nord or something. I really hope it stays similar to how it is. Would be so so fun to take into jet battles

[wintry copper]

not like it would proxy on anything other than a B-17 though

[wintry copper]

13.3 by the way

or did that change on dev

[green narwhal]

13.3 is what I saw on the dev, which is insane. It should be 13.0, it’s so much worse than the other 13.3s and pretty much equal to the other 13.0 fox-3 carrying planes

Like an F-20 with fox-3 would be fine at 13.3 but F-5 is wild. It will not be competitive against the Jeff or F-4 Ice

I think the kfir C.10 and AV-8B+ are both 13.3 and both of them carry twice as many fox 3s at the F-5TH. Just makes no sense

[wintry copper]

even if the TH got all 4 derbies it'd still be down 2 missiles in comparison to the harrier

[green narwhal]

lowkey I forgot about all the F-16As that just got moved to 13.3. F-5TH bouta be DOA if they don't move it to 13.0

[formal sable]

They are changing to wire guided on release

I’m so excited for the B-66

If the A6 actually comes back I’ll scream

I just learned that SG surface search radars have a 10cm wavelength. Fuckin huge

[green narwhal]

10 cm is massive

[hushed rain]

my gf told me that once 🙏

[gusty sedge]

quick little ace

[mossy marten]

MCLOS

to be specific

[fleet halo]

rare gaijin w

[green narwhal]

thats actually really sick

[formal sable]

Oh that’s neat

[golden hull]

I hate this fuckass game

just got 4 kills in one minute feeling like king von in my cl-13b

and my game crashes

I had a 100% booster

[real oak]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-king-von-king-von-meme-cat-von-von-cat-cat-meme-king-von-gif-8896368755536219314

[formal sable]

I'm digging this niche I've found at 6.0 Germany GRB

[formal sable]

I just had a team melt in less than 5 minutes

Absolute bruh moment

[formal sable]

I’m so mad that the T54/T58 are gonna be premium

[green narwhal]

Jets are finally gonna be getting components modeled like helicopters, so fucking Su-27s can stop HMD slinging 4 R-73s after I already severed them

[gusty sedge]

@real oak watunda

[formal sable]

https://warthunder.com/en/news/9681-development-b-66b-destroyer-ready-for-the-nuclear-age-en

Heavy breathing

[dapper osprey]

Don’t cream your pants just yet

[formal sable]

Oh it’ll prolly be a worse Canberra, I just like the Destroyer

[wintry copper]

it's def faster

which is a plus

this thing better be like 8.7 though

[green narwhal]

It'll just be Il-28 in US tree

[wintry copper]

you know I would hope we don't get this in the tech tree

would be funny as an april fools plane though

[golden hull]

anyone else use the cl-13b

i feel it’s just not fair against most the planes i go against

it’s just constantly demons or other sabres that i can outurn literally every time no matter airspeed or what

i just hold pitch up and win

[green narwhal]

The the Canadair sabres are insane, always have been a step above the rest

[formal sable]

I’ve died so many time to CL-13s

[golden hull]

we get too much ammo too

1800 rounds of 50 cal

some of those shots have to land eventually

[formal sable]

Update time

[fleet halo]

@real oak war thunder added some ui that tells you which side of your aircraft a missile is firing

L for left and R for right

[real oak]

fire

[gusty sedge]

L for L and R for ratio

[dapper osprey]

(ing)

[formal sable]

It’s actually insulting you for your weapon choice. No matter what you choose, you’ll get an L

[mossy marten]

New decal

Same with zenturion

[green narwhal]

Idk what I really would like content creator decals to be but it was never this 😞

[formal sable]

I have Phlys and spookstons

The cope one isn’t horrible

[wintry copper]

yeah checks out

[green narwhal]

Holy sheit we are getin an insane event

rank 6 35,000 mission points per task 8 tasks for the vehicle 9 for the skin

[mossy marten]

@frail crag holy fuck lmao

I was just making fun of this thing.

[formal sable]

Huh, neat

[gusty sedge]

I FUCKING LOVE THE CL-13B MK6

[green narwhal]

8 is actually wild

[golden hull]

i love that shit too

it’s in its own bracket if you just turn right everyone

and it gets aim 9bs

going from that to mig 21 was an adjustment since mig cannot turn fight anything

[gusty sedge]

9bs are goated at a BR where basicially no one has flares and half the people are braindead base bombing

"When youre at 9.0, they let you do it. Grab 'em by the afterburner"

[golden hull]

yeah a lot of people don’t realize it’s on them

although if they touch the controls while it’s going after them it’ll prolly miss

the engine and the energy retention just makes the cl13b eat all the naval aircraft especially at the br

[green narwhal]

I’m ngl man recently when I’ve played I swear those 9bs pull way harder than they used to

[eager sluice]

sub-optimal

now to wait and hope the team kills the last few guys before I run out of fuel

it was not succesfull😔

[gusty sedge]

nah unless they actually do an intentional pull itll hit them

they seem to cope with a few gs

[gusty sedge]

MY GOAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quick 6k

[golden hull]

german supremacy

[misty scaffold]

I love my Phantom and my Phantom love me

[rough mortar]

ive never seen that amount without using a premium aircarft

holy shit

[frail crag]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjLUpG7ZGAQ <@&1278618075792539648>

[mossy marten]

MOLY

marine failed project

💯

[green narwhal]

I neeeeed it

[eager sluice]

holy shit I did the best landing ever

mig-15, elevator cables broken, controlling pitch with the flaps and fucking landed it

[formal sable]

I wish I could find the video I had of me landing my A20 like that. I was so impressed with myself lol

[gusty sedge]

Germany complete

https://tenor.com/view/german-east-germany-gif-19050590

https://tenor.com/view/ksk-bundeswehr-germany-deutschland-luftwaffe-gif-18353792

[green narwhal]

Hella chinese vehicles on sale rn, lowkey kinda wanna pick up the Al-Khalid and Z-19E

[glad tapir]

khalid is real fun to play. Actually has a reverse gear too

[mossy marten]

It gets DTC10-125 as well.

If my memory serves me right

Very good round

[formal sable]

The Ukrainian T-80 in the Tiwaneese tree has one too

[frail crag]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z7SXM9nCtk

[glad tapir]

too bad grinding helis takes forever

[green narwhal]

Air needs to be able to grind helis, there is no reason it shouldn’t

[formal sable]

Dost thou use helis in air battles?

[green narwhal]

Does that matter?

last time I checked helis had more in common with aircraft than tanks

tank research probably didn't lead to helicopters, I think it might've been aerospace

[fleet halo]

I mean for a game like war thunder yeah

Heli's are a ground rb only thing

so it would be weird if you could grind for them in air gamemodes

[green narwhal]

you can access the ability to unlock helicopters by getting ground OR air to rank 5, should be able to research with both

[fleet halo]

Although that sead event does give me some hope cause it had heli's and fixed wing in an air-only mode

[green narwhal]

it would be cool to take helis into air battles and have objectives for them, they have crazy a2a missiles to defend themselves

[fleet halo]

sadly they would prolly end up like bombers where the moment their presence is known everyone is going in for the easy kill lol

[green narwhal]

probably yeah

I just wanna be able to research helis with 20k rp a game in air rather than like 5k a game for much longer games of ground

the discrepancy of research points earned in GRB to ARB is insane

it quite literally needs to be tripled at least

[dim pumice]

God help me I'm relapsing

Is there a role for this?

[green narwhal]

wart under

[mossy marten]

It's a video game not a drug 😭

look man we gotta get you some heroin or something

[dim pumice]

That's ok I only do heroin socially

[formal sable]

Agreed

[golden hull]

can i get wart under

[dapper osprey]

speaking of wart under... thoughts on sweden?

or france

[real oak]

🤔

[dapper osprey]

whathca thinkin boss

what im thinking is that the cv90s are cool, especially the 105 and 120

strv103 is also cool

[wintry copper]

ground or air

oh air

ww2 era stuff is kind of mid

cold war is when their stuff really picks up

[dapper osprey]

ground

[dim pumice]

I'm working on France air right now

Ah ground

[wintry copper]

I said air get i meant ground

[dim pumice]

Disregard

[wintry copper]

im way too tired today

[dapper osprey]

lol

[wintry copper]

this is true for ground

[dapper osprey]

gotcha

[wintry copper]

8.X lineup's solid

9.3 is one of my favorites

10.7 you get leopards and CV9040 spam

and sweden used to be king at top tier

[dapper osprey]

the CV90 series is my fav

[wintry copper]

not as overpowering as they used to be, but still a very solid lineup

[dapper osprey]

no armor, but they can fuck with literally anything

most of the time, anyway

in bf2042 they even slapped a railgun on those things

[dapper osprey]

is this a good thing or a bad thing

[wintry copper]

good

2A4s are solid

[dapper osprey]

im on if anyone is down

[golden hull]

Cl13 mentioned ‼️‼️

https://www.kkinstagram.com/reel/DPWmowrE7Nf/?igsh=bm15dHJueGlqMThx

[gusty sedge]

ACE

[next kestrel]

the snail got me

[lavish valley]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1271943510311960577/1379177760613994616/attachment.gif

[misty scaffold]

Why is Heisenberg there lmfao

[next kestrel]

Id be more concerned about stalin and putin being there

[dim pumice]

flyin through explosions like a cool dude

[glad tapir]

do we have a caw WT squadron by chance?

idk just putting the idea out there if it's not a thing already

[eager sluice]

yeah there is one

[next kestrel]

7 kills with the strv 104 and 3 more with the 103C

[green narwhal]

2 more warthunder updates coming before the end of the year, Ima miss two whole updates and the winter sale :(

[formal sable]

Mmm Sweden

[formal sable]

How are you already in the 103 and 104

[next kestrel]

WtM

[formal sable]

How does that work? I’ve got that but I’ve seen something like that

[next kestrel]

Ive been playing wtm like 6 months before I got (back) into actual warthunder

Nothing transfers over, the screenshot is in WTM

[formal sable]

Aaaah

[formal sable]

Get on my level

[mossy marten]

lol

[green narwhal]

https://www.kktiktok.com/t/ZP8A4mHvE/

[mossy marten]

oh fuck yeah

[green narwhal]

America's tiddies

[dapper osprey]

if/when the sweden one drops im swiping

[frail crag]

https://warthunder.com/en/news/9751-shop-video-senrai-maidens-x-war-thunder-video-premiere-and-exclusive-packs-en

body pillow link

[next kestrel]

wow it is true

germains really are oblivious

(danish m24 my beloved)

[mossy marten]

https://x.com/WarThunder/status/1980261988186964297 @frail crag

War Thunder (@WarThunder)

C13 TUA: Italy’s First Squadron Vehicle

X · Oct 20, 2025, 1:17 PM

TUA

italy tua

[dapper osprey]

its bad :(

[golden hull]

how do i join the caw8 squadron i forgot how that shit works

[mossy marten]

Just look it up.

On the squadron thing

Or if u have us added in game

U can check the squadron

[broken thistle]

Aiden mentioned 🗣️🔥

[frail crag]

https://youtu.be/qAM7iP-WOpA?si=hmiydPDMesJMgkas <@&1278618075792539648>

[mossy marten]

Yeah holy fuck

War thunder trailer

Being tapped out of the game lowk awesome

Because the trailers just spawn in.

And I don’t expect them.

[hushed rain]

isn't the su30 gonna be a premium

[proven shadow]

Yeap

[fleet halo]

ayo golden eagle

might have aesa

wonder if it's gonna be 14.3

[nova crown]

prob

wont be as quick as the SE or EF though

[formal sable]

Interesting. My dad is in charge of BAEs cysec at Hill AFB

[wintry copper]

Currently it is

also should get the AESA

if gaijin doesnt give it (v)3 that's stupid

[fleet halo]

true but that really only matters for first shots or runnin away

I've been killin it in the hornet and that thing struggles to get to mach 1.1 lmao

[real oak]

[golden hull]

playing the f4f for germany feels useless

mid missles

no radar guided ones at all

and its a brick

[mossy marten]

yeah

How it be

[formal sable]

Anyone got a store code they want used?

[formal sable]

It's so pretty

[mossy marten]

None of us are content creators sadly 😭

But

I think @frail crag has a website u can use to find what realtor codes give what decals.

[frail crag]

It on my PC I ain’t home tho 😭

[gusty sedge]

https://wtpb.net/

[formal sable]

Bless

[real oak]

hit 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

[formal sable]

I’ll be generous and give you a crit

[gusty sedge]

[formal sable]

Very nice

[formal sable]

Got a couple, thank you!

Bruh why is the hangar dark I cant see SHIT

[gusty sedge]

6k with 4 AIM-9e kills

[agile lark]

🗣️

[hushed rain]

considering picking up something during the sale... or the su30mk2

[formal sable]

I got the F-106 and the F-20

[hushed rain]

i love the f20 but im already essentially done with the US tree

i want it but it feels redundant

[formal sable]

I’m getting my ass handed to me

[formal sable]

I’d get it but that’s a full DCS module plus some

Also want the SU-33

Or the bomber one

[hushed rain]

yeah... idk the only DCS module im interested in getting rn is the c130 and thats probably not coming until sometime late this month

[hushed rain]

?

[formal sable]

Su-34

That one

[hushed rain]

oh yes

kinda wanna grab a german premium too so idk

i wouldnt mind completing the full circle

usa france russia china i already have

so complete the circle with the typhoon

[formal sable]

The mig 21 Lazur is pretty good

[gusty sedge]

Why oh why the F-20

I got the F-5 and it's very good

The F-20 was and is DOA AFAIK

[hushed rain]

i wouldn't call it dead it's just

kinda

alright?

[gusty sedge]

You are getting uptiered into AMRAAMS with Fox-1s

You are facing vipers with 6 Fox-3s

[formal sable]

Maybe I’ll get a tomcat

[formal sable]

https://medal.tv/games/war-thunder/clips/lqiiQzCMdY1ZjQuk_?invite=cr-MSxtQVosMzc1MDQ4NzQy

Um, not what I thought hit me'

[gusty sedge]

This was the most clutch game of my life

It was a 1v6 that turned into a 1v1 through me flying circles with the entire enemy team 1 km behind me

They all crashed or ran out of fuel

And somehow we were winning by like 500 tickets

And so long story short finished the game in a glide with no fuel after winning by about 100 tickets

While being in a turn fight with the last enemy

[hushed rain]

"medal clip that"

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-erase-gif-1159901542694943356

[formal sable]

Yeah yeah lol

[hushed rain]

update tomorrow possibly?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1182231890128810067/1434006943659331655/Timeline_1111.gif

[hushed rain]

i lied i guess

[gusty sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-senator-armstrong-revengeance-i-made-it-the-fuck-up-gif-25029602

[rare bone]

how? Just how?

[gusty sedge]

I locked in

[rare bone]

How u win against

[gusty sedge]

play better than the other guy(s)

[rare bone]

https://tenor.com/view/soviet-union-communism-ussr-cccp-russia-gif-1503808430958428829

against them…

https://tenor.com/view/soviet-union-propaganda-stalinium-gif-16289670004460099406

[dapper osprey]

downloading now

[rare bone]

nice

[gusty sedge]

0 to top tier in one week

[next kestrel]

Cleanup in aisle: MY PANTS

[next kestrel]

I was responding to the sound mod video

[rare bone]

What are you talking abt?

[next kestrel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/839494041514278943/1408036005616812103/togif.gif

I saw you delete that

[formal sable]

Lol

[formal sable]

So, R-3Rs... thoughts?

I have a hard time getting them to lock

[sharp forge]

https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExbW9mN3U3amNuMmFhbWh3ZXdneG5sbm94ZXcyenA4bnRrcXJqMzVkZyZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/nIQqegbRixW5QQd3w8/giphy.gif

[wintry copper]

they are pulse lol

not quite known for being a good guidance method

[frail crag]

HOLY FUCK

[formal sable]

Is there a trick to locking?

[rare bone]

rear aspect, dont move at all, keep it completely flat to the engine. And then, and only then will it attempt to lock

[rare bone]

https://youtube.com/shorts/5_d1aEbHnWw?si=acA7JaSgVEsFg07d

[wintry copper]

R-3R not R-3S

[rare bone]

oh

idk bro

that thing does not work aat all

[wintry copper]

generally avoid any kind of top down, they usually shit themselves unless youre firing from really high and they're also a good ways up in alt

firing up after a guy usually works best

easiest way to use em is to fire them at the guy who climbed to space and is doing headons then running

[rare bone]

It turnsout the pancakes were almost aall youtubers https://www.youtube.com/shorts/djOo_IAeflE

[formal sable]

Congrats!

[formal sable]

So stay low, got it. Is there a specific mode I need to be in to get a better chance at a lock?

[wintry copper]

you're using R-3Rs no?

what other mode do you have?

[formal sable]

Yeah

Search and ACM I think

I’d have to check

But I’m at work rn

[wintry copper]

oh getting a lock in general

Sapfir is hot ass lol

ACM is "easier" since it'll try to lock whatever's in boresight

[gusty sedge]

Thanks!

[gusty sedge]

7k

[rare bone]

can we agree the f5 is stupid

[hushed rain]

oh hey nice f5 liver- OHHH CANADA 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦

[formal sable]

Stupid good

[toxic valley]

Skyflash

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1303915063907717180/1436916822128464005/image.png?ex=69120153&is=6910afd3&hm=5c022cb6958b593f6cd4f723bc80826b9e15e8b04e583604c939a1116b567601&

Poor F-104’s man

Ik theyre not useless, theyve got speed and countermeasures and 9L’s

But i still feel bad for killing them at 12.0

[hushed rain]

okay update tomorrow

actually this time

[toxic valley]

hawk tuahundred

[gusty sedge]

Prepared for tomorrow

[toxic valley]

where could the hawk tuahundred possibly go

before jaguar gr1a?

[formal sable]

I think that would be an ok spot

[formal sable]

So...you get an L3 as a decoration?

You put it on a boat?

[hushed rain]

my bet is on the space inbetween lightning f6 and tornado f3

[toxic valley]

its a strike aircraft (i think?)

i dont think itd make a whole lot of sense bc thatd be such a wack ass jump

[hushed rain]

one of them has radar missiles

theyre light fighters

im like 90% sure

[toxic valley]

lightning and tornado, light fighters

i could see it going to either tho

[hushed rain]

lmao yeah i know

idk feels like theyll try and fill the space thre

oih

i stand corrected

it is in the jaguar space

[toxic valley]

well problem is there isnt anything to fill there

britain did just deadass jump from the lightning to tornado

i think they may save the F.2 as a premium

[formal sable]

https://medal.tv/games/war-thunder/clips/lu279Hp7Ouo8yPrut?invite=cr-MSxiOUssMzc1MDQ4NzQy&v=30

Kung fu noises

[gusty sedge]

My 🐐

[toxic valley]

Update out?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/804143271122567228/1437566185330966699/Screenshot_2025-11-10_145346.png?ex=69145e17&is=69130c97&hm=6f39e07e0bd10d8f2b55f50c07b00a32a694a9e996e6751062d4a124d8aab0b8&

Typhoon is crazy

[toxic valley]

it is!

they added two!

💀

[dapper osprey]

wow, it not a goshawk!

[toxic valley]

HAWK 2

[hushed rain]

pretty sure the radar is a PD with TWS too

[toxic valley]

yeah its 11.3

the goofiest fella

unfortunately theyre regular skyflashes

im being told in game chat the new f-15 is doa

as expected

america skipped the tech tree irl and bought the stealth premium so they have no good planes to add until raptor

WHY DOES IT HAVE AIM-7S AT 14.3

[hushed rain]

spend GE on upgrading it trust trust trust

oh anyway kinda unrelated but

[hushed rain]

we should start getting winter update dev blogs before the end of the month

uhhmmm and on a kinda cool note

the leakers said "yeah we arent spoiling the christmas update yall are getting suprised"

hopefully this years winter update is better than last years

well i guess we got the first 4.5 gens but still comparatively to other winter updates

[toxic valley]

SUPER HORNET AND SU-35 PLEASE GAIJIN IM TIRED OF FIGHTING PLANES 30 YEARS OLDER THAN MINE

[gusty sedge]

Thats fake news

it has good NCTR

[dapper osprey]

14???

[toxic valley]

well its still an F-15C at the end of the day regardless

[toxic valley]

ive been informed you get amraams stock

[gusty sedge]

Still better than the E

[dapper osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/guh-gif-25116077

[toxic valley]

2 120bs and 2 9ms stock

idk what the sparrows are for lol

larp i suppose

america continues to be ash babied while they watch two bossfights happen above them (rafale vs typhoon)

[hushed rain]

literally just because gaijin can say its realistic and make the research grind longer

[toxic valley]

typhoon 55 seconds of drop tank 💀

[hushed rain]

maybe a few extra people buy GE to skip them

[toxic valley]

but you get amraams already whats the point

😭

[toxic valley]

deadass might unequip the engine upgrades

m1.8 in a dive accidentally is suboptimal

its like been every other game

[hushed rain]

i mean technically you can put them on the body hardpoints before you get the amraams

so if you really want extra missiles while grinding

[gusty sedge]

[formal sable]

I’ve gotta figure out a way to git gud with planes

[nova crown]

this has been a feature of every top tier for like 6 updates now

[nova crown]

high suite f-15E or late block f-16

aim-9x, aesa, 120C-7/8 or 120D

[toxic valley]

🤔

But then late Typhoon…

ASRAAM, Meteor, AESA, LERX…

Nobody will use the 120C-7/D bc theyll say its worse than the B (it wont be)

[fleet halo]

apparently the new golden eagle F-15 has these skins as unlockable which is based

ik the desert camo you have to pay for it on the normal F-15C

[broken thistle]

W aggressors

[misty scaffold]

You're gay

Also wtf, there's a new F-15C now?

Yet my stupid ass F-4E with GBU-15s still has the wrong cockpit, and they refuse to make a late model one, or give it Pave Spike / Pave Tack

[toxic valley]

thats crazy??

they wont give an f-4e the correct cockpit but they give the jaguars the right cockpit for gbu mods

[fleet halo]

yeah but it's not that much different than the normal one

their only practical differences are aim-120c's and aesa for the new 15C

I think the strike eagle is still overall better cause it has access to aim-120b's, better engines, and is 0.3 br lower

[misty scaffold]

Having all of the A/G stuff is crazy tho

GBU-8s? On a modern post-MSIP II C Eagle is nuts

[gusty sedge]

100% No, the NCTR in the new one lets you discriminate like in a EF

[fleet halo]

Yeah nctr is nice

but would rather have the better engines

[gusty sedge]

also almost 900 CMS vs 240

[fleet halo]

guh

didnt know this

is this a modification?

[gusty sedge]

yeah it has BOL rails

The radar also is completly roll independent so you can chaff and maintain TWS much, much better

[misty scaffold]

Sad the DCS C Eagle probably won’t be the modern one

[toxic valley]

has tws been fucked up for anyone else

[rare bone]

if You create a custom loadout you can equip 120cs

[mossy marten]

This guy is a knower 💯

[real oak]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-king-von-king-von-king-von-piracy-king-von-anti-piracy-gif-11039484168229059057

what are they feeding the rafale bro 😭 😭

[misty scaffold]

Micas. 😭

[real oak]

yeah and all 8 hit

i wwatched the replay

evil ahh missile

[mossy marten]

Micas are retardedly difficult to notch

[real oak]

yuh

[misty scaffold]

I keep telling people that, and the EF2K and Rafale need to be moved to 15.0

Top tier needs decompressed

In the worst way

[toxic valley]

Its two bossfights happening against each other while everyone else gets caught in the collateral man

And these arent even the best versions of the Rafale and Typhoon

Gaijin PLEASE juper jornet and su-35

[hushed rain]

probably winter

[real oak]

Gripen e or something 😭🙏🙏🙏

[formal sable]

I just got my first Sparrow kill

I think

And 2 and 3 lol

[toxic valley]

💀

me watching the 9m deadass eat a flare from a rear aspect afterburning jh-7

remember when they were scary?

these bad weather matches are sick

[formal sable]

Damn is that like 8K res?

[mossy marten]

Winter Arc

[hushed rain]

what did he mean by this

[hushed rain]

its astonishing how ass they are now

[gusty sedge]

What are you gonna do with a super hornet, thing is going to get mogged exactly like the streagle and gleagle

[toxic valley]

give me some hope for competiton :(

[mossy marten]

174

[gusty sedge]

Do you remember how everyone shits on the charlies because they don't turn and take ages to accelerate?

[mossy marten]

That’s not the 174

[toxic valley]

And then proceed to be smited by me from 60km away lmfao

[gusty sedge]

You ain't smiting anything with a MAWS homeboy

[toxic valley]

Sure do

Especially rafales and f-15’s

[gusty sedge]

F-15s don't have a MAWS

[toxic valley]

WHAT

😭 😭 😭

Thats so rough 😭 😭

I think the rafale players be putting the missile in their blindspot and then think its dealt with lmao

[gusty sedge]

Even with generous assumptions of mach 5 closing velocity you'd still have almost 6 seconds to react

[toxic valley]

Target Destroyed

[mossy marten]

Yeah all the fancy sensor stuff for US is gonna be on 5th gens but those will never be as strong as they should be cuz it’s a video game and things need to be balanced

[toxic valley]

Plenty of time for those who have a few braincells firing

Which is not your top tier air rb players

[mossy marten]

You say this, but phoenixes still got a load of kills even before the fox3 update. A lot of people just climb with brain off/afk.

It was so funny

[toxic valley]

^

They STILL do

[mossy marten]

Super hornet would be cool for CAS tho

[toxic valley]

Albeit mostly replaced by the Fakours now

[gusty sedge]

I got two kills against rafales with Aim-7s today, AIM-7 META NO WAY!!?!!

F-15 best jet

Aim-7 all the way

[toxic valley]

F-15 players after deadass charging directly into 3 typhoons and a rafale (105:0)

[gusty sedge]

I'm just saying, super hornet will be DOA even with 174 due to its incredibly inferior kinematics and defensive avionics

[toxic valley]

Ugh that sucks

Must i wait for F-35 update for america and russia to be competitive once more?

[gusty sedge]

The raptor might go hard at least

The F-35 might be mid, engagements in WT are at such braindead short range that you will probably burn through quite frequently and you are left with the mid kinematics of a fat amy

[misty scaffold]

At least the F-35A has a gun

[mossy marten]

Yeah. The thing about WT is the 5th gens won’t even be fun.

[toxic valley]

I find the fun in the sensor sophistication personally, so i think id still enjoy it

[fleet halo]

I'd prolly still ball out with it

idk why but I do the best in da hornet for top tier

I think it was a combo of having 10 amraams and it being slow enough to force me in a certain play style

but yeah practically it'll be doa sorta like the 15C golden eagle

[nova crown]

Honestly not sure if it will have good competition

J20 might be close

Su57 as well

[toxic valley]

late typhoon and late rafale will also probably be able to not be absolutely floored

i dont think theyd do F-22 J-20 and Su-57 without giving everyone else an F-35 tho..

unless they make them like 15.3 or 16.0 and the current 14.0 bracket cannot be uptiered to them

[fleet halo]

J-20 is the only one that has a good shot at being better than US fifth gens in war thunder imo

gaijin will find a way

[nova crown]

Pl 15

And no 260

[formal sable]

BVR missile slinging

C13/HawkTUA

[formal sable]

https://medal.tv/games/war-thunder/clips/lvdN1yUzTpaGpQlIg?invite=cr-MSxpSDMsMzc1MDQ4NzQy

Right up his ass. Talk about a heat-seeker

[formal sable]

I wish WT actually modeled the CRW in the newer Sidewinders and Sparrows

Instead of just fragments

[toxic valley]

io wish they werent teammate only irccm

[formal sable]

Whatcha mean?

[toxic valley]

joke of 9m's only having irccm when locked onto a teammate

[formal sable]

Ah, I see

[formal sable]

Making my way down the list!

[toxic valley]

Def one worth playing

[formal sable]

https://medal.tv/games/war-thunder/clips/lwPhdAYxVwJrIZU2i?invite=cr-MSxUSkwsMzc1MDQ4NzQy&v=9

Oh ho! Death approaches!

[formal sable]

https://medal.tv/games/war-thunder/clips/lwPR4Jla8oFFRlgB-?invite=cr-MSx3TUksMzc1MDQ4NzQy&v=21

Beyond the grave

[formal sable]

What

[misty scaffold]

I'd say it's only worth it if it ever gets updated / upgraded

[gusty sedge]

Premiums cost like 2x of normal aircraft

[formal sable]

Jesus

[gusty sedge]

I mean it's not too bad, I think I've made like 10.000.000 sl with my F-5

I'd estimate you make 500.000 an hour if you play well

[formal sable]

I’ve figured out a pretty consistent way to get at least 2-4 kills a match with the F-20

[gusty sedge]

That should net you 120.000 ish per match then

[golden hull]

im def buying a premium next month

I would to play us air tree

i regret going germany lowke

[rare bone]

Definitely buy the f-5c

one of the best

then buy a talisman on the f-5e when you get it

[gusty sedge]

I will say the US tree is fun but atm you get mogged at top tier

Neither of the F-15s are competitive with the EF or especially the Rafale

The F-4E is goated though

[golden hull]

i just wanna use cool early missle era shit

[toxic valley]

Pretty much every NATO country gets the same early missile era stuff but US usually has the better versions

[gusty sedge]

Germany suffers at 11.0

No F-4 with sparrows

[misty scaffold]

The F-4E as long as the matchmaker loves you, is an insanely cracked plane when Aced

You can easily get 4-9 kills in a good match with good teammates

[golden hull]

yep exactly i really wanted to play a good phantom but im forced to play mig since the phantom is so painful to play

[gusty sedge]

Theres also the early viggen with DF Sparrows and PD just above the F-4E

That thing seems to be goated

[golden hull]

how does japan seem to play around 10-12

i see they have a lot of f-5s but also they have a premium f-4 that interests me

[hushed rain]

wait for christmas sale for sure

[hushed rain]

its fun after like 10.3

you get some flareless things that are

interesting to play.

[golden hull]

ngl i dont see myself playing lower tiers again, i def will just be getting a premium and playing that plane until i get some other cooler stuff

[toxic valley]

Watch Dunkirk and that other pacific movie and youll want to play low tier agaib

[fleet halo]

eh at the end of the day the F-15s are still useable in top tier

yeah the eurofighter has the kinematic advantage but that's really only noticeable in first shots or in dogfights

But I've personally never got intimidated by an EF on my RWR (even in the F-18) cause at the end of the day they still just have amraams

rafales and mirages on the other hand tho

[formal sable]

Thats kinda what Ive been doing with the F-20

[toxic valley]

At the end of thr day anyone with a few synapses firing probably isnt gonna be hit by a missile (unless its a hornet)

[gusty sedge]

Once you play an EF your perspective on TT will change. While you can get kills in the Eagles you can just turn your brain off in the EF and get twice as many. It turns TT from an annoying slug fest into fun imo.

[fleet halo]

eh idk

I just checked our stats and your kd in the EF is only marginally higher than mine in the 15E

[toxic valley]

i have a much better k/d in the tornado than the typhoon but the typhoon is certainly an infinitely easier plane to play

[gusty sedge]

Yeah but you had to work for those kills, I just fly in a straight line until MAWS tells me to defend

[toxic valley]

the maws defends for you

[gusty sedge]

My grinding strategy was fly in, shoot off 4 amramms bvr and dive in, shoot the last two, die, repeat

Takes like 3 minutes per game

[toxic valley]

it is still super fucking fun to play tho regardless

dopami e !!!

[mossy marten]

BLAH BLAH BLAH

EF CUCK

BLAH BLAH BLAH

[gusty sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-cope-seethe-mald-jarvis-cope-gif-24471463

[fleet halo]

I will now disregard the aesa as an advantage

this shi is booty

works pretty well within 12-23 miles mid-late game tho cause way less shit goin on lol

[gusty sedge]

Are you using radar control or target stepping?

[fleet halo]

I was thinking about moving over to that

I'll look into it next time I hop on cause I have to figure out what type of stuff I would have to rebind

[toxic valley]

TWS is bugged for all planes rn

[nova crown]

thats not what he's saying

his issue is that the tws is too good on the aesa jet

aka screen is too cluttered

[toxic valley]

ou

[rare bone]

anyone elso gonna buy aces of thunder when it comes out??

[fleet halo]

not sure tbh

it kinda just looks like a port of prop war thunder but without any added complexity that justifies VR-only controls

and even then, it's been confirmed that the game will support flat screen and hotas which doesn't really signal any confidencce in the vr controls aspect of the game

[rare bone]

i mean

its gaijin

so if they dont make it as expensive as il2

then we have a wwII vtol

*WW2+WW1

[rare bone]

✅

[toxic valley]

Saw an F-4S gun kill a Su-30MK 😭

Unc still got it !!

[formal sable]

First time I've gotten first lol

[mossy marten]

@gusty sedge

@fleet halo

[gusty sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/speech-bubble-chicken-gif-26197609

[hushed rain]

what category am i if i want the rafale because i like the rafale

[nova crown]

French

[hushed rain]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-glorpshit-mad-gif-12826934952903770254

[formal sable]

Apparently the F-5 has anti-gravity tech. The Cold War was a crazy time

[dapper osprey]

Stole it from hyperborea

[fleet halo]

@mossy marten the J-7E FUCKS

I was weary of it cause it seemed like a clone of the J-7D but a br higher

but I think it being a higher br plays to its advantage cause there's so many F-4's and Mig-23's that can't really fight back in a dogfight

[mossy marten]

Ive been saying forever

[fleet halo]

@mossy marten J-10C leaked

[mossy marten]

https://tenor.com/view/pawchain-paw-pawswap-crypto-cryptocurrency-gif-859229594265389226

[fleet halo]

also wtf is up with the trauma dump paragraph at the start of that message lmao

[mossy marten]

PL-15

[fleet halo]

mig-25 also seems kinda hype

[nova crown]

Leaker drama

[nova crown]

Big if true

Pl15 but not 120D

[mossy marten]

shots taken a TheInsufferableCanadian

[nova crown]

Curious

[fleet halo]

luckily that VFM Leaks fella in vtol main participates in no such thing

[mossy marten]

PL-15 will probably jus be nerfed otherwise C7's are already in the game for 120's

[nova crown]

C7 and pl15 are not the same

If both are realistic

But a c8 could happen and that might be close enough

[dapper osprey]

M10 Booker?

Already?

[mossy marten]

It's more than they'll bring the PL-15 down to the c7 and enable the C7 on planes

Gaijin hasn't ever really just let a generational leap happen with missiles in asymmetry. The only one that I COULD think of was the R-27ER vs the AIM-7F but those were SARHS

so

[hushed rain]

gaijin is being pissy

message doesnt really elaborate but essentially olivia who was the main big leaker for war thunder got some legal pushback out of nowhere from gaijin after doing it for years and was kinda targeted as no other leaker was treated as such

prior to the whole thing the main "leaker" community agreed to not leak christmas update stuff(with the exception of anything super controversial) in spirit of the season

[mossy marten]

Are we ever gonna get the SWIP

[toxic valley]

GAIJIN NOT THE AESA TYPHOON NOOOO

[real oak]

Yo where is my gripen e 😭🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[gusty sedge]

AESA Typhoon inshallah

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-halal-heisenberg-heisenberg-breaking-bad-walter-white-gif-26000778

[toxic valley]

Aesa typhoons but nothing for them to fight

25PD might be crazy at its br bc it can just run away from every fight like the F-104 in 8.7 matches

Wonder if itll also be IRIS-T and ASRAAM and Meteor typhoojs

And LERX

[hushed rain]

pl15 is kinda crazy

can't wait for j10c

[mossy marten]

It'll make it worse

AESA in WT makes you aware of literally every thing the size of a water drop or greater and it just becomes clutter

no LPI or anything fancy that makes AESA distinct

[toxic valley]

but its also about the rest of the equipment those later models of typhoon get too tho

[gusty sedge]

Yeah no the CAPTOR-C already picks up everything under the sun, so the CAPTOR-E is a straight upgrade

Also more SA = bad is a crazy take

I much prefer seeing everything as I am capable of moving the cursor

[mossy marten]

You don't get what I'm trying to say if u think that's what I am saying

👍

[gusty sedge]

What am I missing

[fleet halo]

rn aesa in war thunder is really good at picking up missiles and there's no declutter

so it kinda becomes a mess to work with it

[gusty sedge]

So Is the CAPTOR-C, I already see more missiles than anything

It literally can't get worse

Because it's already cluttered

The problems with the CATOR-C are that it's incredibly unreliable and takes forever to complete a scan

But when it does you can be sure that you are seeing every missile

So from my experience with the AESA on the GE the CAPTOR-E should just be a more reliable and faster CAPTOR-C

[mossy marten]

@gusty sedge this cougar guy been yammering about VTOL modding for like

an hour now

[gusty sedge]

lmao

[hushed rain]

as long as it has target ident then the clutter isn't too bad

[gusty sedge]

Seeing as the even the current CAPTOR-C has the full NCTR suite you'd hope so ...

[toxic valley]

Its rather obvious that a plane isnt moving M3.6

[nova crown]

Me when I have to spam switch target over a million missiles because my radar dont care

[toxic valley]

Just click the planes

[nova crown]

Cursor select is ass in wt

[toxic valley]

https://youtube.com/shorts/co4bD6cdp2A?si=PsppN7rbDq4_cZKH is this why i keep killing flankers

[fleet halo]

https://youtu.be/3q9TSHgSQDs

@mossy marten only halfway through the video but damn now it totally makes sense why war thunder is the way it is

[mossy marten]

I haven’t watched it. But in what way.

[toxic valley]

arads confirmed tho

[fleet halo]

you can kinda see the sentiment in the comments. But basically a lot of things that would be great for the game aren't added in because the devs say "Well everyone plays the game this way so what's the point?" The lead guy shot down a bunch of questions for this reason

Although tbh it is nice that they at least made a Q&A video that addresses all those questions in the first place

[toxic valley]

"if they wanted to play other gamemodes they would play other gamemodes"

how are we gonna play the non existent gamemodes :sob;

"smoke artillery may block visibility and be bad for gameplay"

bro are we fr

"air rb ec was widely disliked"

he either just like, lies, or WILDLY dodges the question

[fleet halo]

I dont think this was said in the vid

[toxic valley]

that was the general gist of it

[fleet halo]

he just sorta said that air rb ec wasn't as popular

which is still an L take

by that logic war thunder naval should just be entirely removed cause nobody plays it

although he mentioned aerial warfare and world war which I haven't heard of

they seem interesting

[toxic valley]

yes they were very fun gamemdoes with unique gameplay and was really cool

this is why players did not like it and we will not bring it back ever

[formal sable]

YES

I don't get the hype. They can't kill anything! 0mm of pen at point blank range smh who thought this was a good idea /s

If cost wasnt an issue, which one should I get?

[toxic valley]

30

33 BAD

[formal sable]

How so?

[toxic valley]

fat flanker

fat flanker with R-27's or thrust vectoring flanker with R-77's .3 higher

[formal sable]

Is the Flanker inherently bad?

[toxic valley]

well its not the best thats for sure but its workable

[formal sable]

Gotcha

[toxic valley]

the 33 is like all of the flankers disadvantages compounded

[formal sable]

Ew

Okie dokie, 30 it is

[toxic valley]

also you dont get premium bonuses on the 33 ofc

[formal sable]

I just want to burn through the Soviet line as fast as possible lol

Mmm, this is true

I have a dream of getting the SU-34 lol

[fleet halo]

https://youtu.be/UddoPz-uyGo

@mossy marten @frail crag zenturion made an abridged version of the Q&A lmao

[formal sable]

Not a big fan of the SU-30 AMV camo

[wintry copper]

TVC

???

[toxic valley]

Does bro know

[wintry copper]

I know that you're wrong

[toxic valley]

Ok sure

[wintry copper]

the only flankers to get TVC are Flanker Es, Hs, and the Su-37

[toxic valley]

This is some like gamma tier ragebait dude

Try again but harder next time

[wintry copper]

???

it takes 4 brain cells and 5 seconds to realize the MKK and its derivatives are different from the MKI and its derivatives

[nova crown]

You are not aware that stallhorn is sometimes to slowest most overconfident dude ever

[nova crown]

You are not aware that the premium su30 is a non tvc version of that plane

This is like free knowledge too, just test fly it slime

[toxic valley]

Yeah the tvc goes crazy

[nova crown]

Yeah but the premium su30 doesnt have it

[wintry copper]

so...Joe 2

[nova crown]

Similar but a lil different

[wintry copper]

damn

game was rigged from the start either way

[mossy marten]

Anime Music Video

[formal sable]

Whats TVC

[dapper osprey]

Thrust Vectoring Control