#War Thunder

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fleet halo
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somethin ain't right

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I wonder if researching the bomber before the f-105 counts

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prolly not

nova crown
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I only did the bombers once I had the f-4E/F-5E

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oh

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these two goobers count towards purchased

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sucks to suck I guess

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give the snail dabloons

fleet halo
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holy butt clencher

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the last dude died like right before our tickets hit 0

fleet halo
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tbh I have enough to just boost the research

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I might do that for the f-104c cause I may have enough to talisman the f-5

nova crown
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you might as well do the f-8

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cause you will need two from rank 7 outside of the left two trees anyways

fleet halo
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yeah but I would rather get the F-5E faster

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I won't mind chilling with the F-5 longer if it means escaping from the 104 faster

nova crown
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and then skip naval all together

misty scaffold
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Yeah, the only reason I grinded the F-4J is because Phantom. Now I'm RPing the 16ADF

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I have zero want to get the F-14A Early, cuz it sucks, and because I have the IRIAF

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Two left trees and the bomber tree are my priority

fleet halo
misty scaffold
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Believe it or not, I'm not a big Hornet guy

fleet halo
fleet halo
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Like it should be right after the F-15C

misty scaffold
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I think a premium YF-23 would go crazy eventually

nova crown
misty scaffold
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The EX is brand new (2020 iirc) why would it be in the USAF branch before the 22

nova crown
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they add stuff when it makes sense by br

grand osprey
misty scaffold
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The Su-57 and J-20 both entered service after the 22 though?

nova crown
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war thunder does not add stuff chronologically

misty scaffold
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Well you got me there

nova crown
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there are plenty of aircraft in game that are newer then the raptor

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the 4.5 stuff will probably be in before 5th gen stuff

fleet halo
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although an EX before the 22 would be wild

nova crown
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but the ex will probably be between them

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unless they toss it in the bomber tree

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regardless I see it coming to the game a bit after an f-2

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f-2 would be a big break into 4.5 stuff and then we will get all that before stealth

misty scaffold
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I swear if the F-2 doesnt come at End of Year, I'm gonna be sad

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Honestly, I think it would warrant being at 14.0 with the F-15E.

nova crown
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E is at 13.7

misty scaffold
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Yeah, but I'm saying the E is too good to be at the same BR as the F-16C and 15C and 15J(M)

nova crown
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is it

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its just a bit faster?

misty scaffold
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Uhh yeah, even after being nerfed. Its ground radar and SDBs make it kinda nutty for CAS, but in AirRB you can get sniped from across the map because they can climb to 30-35k and sling 120Bs

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Its low speed performance is still crazy fast, about .3M faster than the 15C at 0ASL

nova crown
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I dont think the bit of speed boost it has warrants it being in a br of its own

misty scaffold
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Not just the speed but systems

nova crown
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you do know that ground rb and air rb brs are different right?

misty scaffold
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That's why I'm saying the Ef2000, F-2A and it can be at 14

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yes

misty scaffold
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Same with the rafale

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if it ever gets added

mossy marten
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I’ll be at like 8km alt at Mach 1.6 by the time most people either at the same speed at 4k or at 8k at Mach 1

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Ur launches r just that much better.

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Cuz ur able to get higher, faster, sooner.

nova crown
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which is like not insignificant but I think you underestimate how big of a jump 120C and 9x could be that actually constitutes a br jump

misty scaffold
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It is that much better. I can climb at 10 deg to mach 1 and then 20-22 deg at mach 1, losing zero speed. Shuttle in his E can climb to mach 1 at 10 deg and then 30 degrees and ACCELERATE

nova crown
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if the f-15E was 14.0 you would have to put a f-16bl 50 Late or f-15EX (especially with 120D) at 15.0

mossy marten
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I think the F-15E wouldn’t be a bad first plane to start building what is going to be 14.0

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But yeah

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Def newer weapons would come too

misty scaffold
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Honestly I think the M2000-5F deserves a bump in BR too because of its MICAs tbh tbh

mossy marten
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They did the same thing with the F-14A a patch after it came out

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Gave it its own BR

nova crown
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f-14A also added fox-3s though

mossy marten
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and buffed it’s adversaries

mossy marten
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Phoenixes at launch could maybe pull 4gs

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If u weren’t AFK u didn’t die to them.

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The AIM-7Fs on the AWG where CRAZY

nova crown
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yeah seems like a weapon thing either way

misty scaffold
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7Fs are pretty good

mossy marten
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Could carry I think 6. Back when the only other radar missile planes had 2

nova crown
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a f-15E at 14.0 would never compete with a 16 with 120C

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and then it would be over BR'd

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and in the time until it has other aircraft in the 14.0 range it would have like 0 effect on matchmaking

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it just would stop seeing stuff like the harrier early 4th gens

fleet halo
nova crown
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no

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but if they where thats something that makes sense at 14.0 or 14.3

misty scaffold
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I could see an F-16C(bl.50 Late) in game with 120Cs at 14.0

nova crown
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I think 4.5 will bet 14.3

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including aesa, 9x and 120C or D

mossy marten
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120C’s will probably come shortly after AESA

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yeah and 9x’s and stuff

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120D is not gonna be for awhile.

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Probably after 5th gen/way after radar rework.

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Currently radars are literally perfect when they’re supposed to be.

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I’ve said previously tho. If every plane had the thrust/FM of the F-15E. Running exclusively EC maps at top tier air would make sense and actually be more fun.

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The larger more expanded maps are starting to feel too small.

nova crown
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its weird to me that they are letting the f-15E be as overpowered as it is

mossy marten
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Yeah.

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They always do this

nova crown
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its wierd that they even let you take the cfts off

mossy marten
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There will be an answer in the next update.

twilit flume
nova crown
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I know there are articles saying they are experimenting with them off but I dont actually think they are

twilit flume
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There's some recent photos with them off

nova crown
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should post them

twilit flume
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Ill try to find em

nova crown
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even testing makes enough sense for war thunder to allow it

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but it doesnt make sense balance wise

nova crown
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here is a lineup of some all of which have cfts on

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(which sure you can put them on to fly back from a deployment, but it seems like so much effort to do it at all when its completely possible to do the whole thing cfts off)

twilit flume
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but it seems like so much effort to do it at all when its completely possible to do the whole thing cfts off
I imagine they fly out with them all on so that they have them on hand

nova crown
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the f-15E podcast specifically said they are hard to take off

twilit flume
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so they'd be on just to ferry

nova crown
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and they dont like doing them

twilit flume
fleet halo
nova crown
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considering it loses most of its a2g capabilty and they are not doing anything close to real bvr so I would guess that the speed isnt a huge deal

twilit flume
nova crown
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those are not deployed aircraft

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Its obviously possible

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and they have obviously done it

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but to what extent

twilit flume
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15SG not E but still

twilit flume
twilit flume
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All deployed/combat we've done recently has been phat and dirty (except maybe over the houthie area, but no idea) so I wouldn't be supprised if we've not used it in combat yet but point is they're starting to train/integrate with it

nova crown
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regardless I would not call it realistic for them to be fighting with them off yet

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that would open the door to a lot more things being realistic

twilit flume
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Notso mentioned it might not actually have a big impact to BVR, tho some of what my dad said is contradictorily to that so idk

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Notso said it was more important/impactful in BFM which I do believe

nova crown
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how much of bvr is actually spent at the top end of your speed range

twilit flume
nova crown
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but then if they where starting to train and integrate it as you say its weird that there are not images of them in that config at flag events

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even the f-15Es I saw at luke in april (specifically there to do bfm training) had cfts on

twilit flume
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Its not common still

nova crown
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the images all seem to be lakenheath jets

twilit flume
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My point was just that they had started doing it

nova crown
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I wouldnt really call it realistic yet

twilit flume
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Like 5 years ago it would have been a "yeah they technically can but never ever do"

nova crown
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realistic for actually operations I would say

twilit flume
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Now its a "they technically can and do, but not widespread yet"

frail crag
misty scaffold
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So much fun. Especially with 2x 9Js, 4x AGM-65s, and the GPU-5 Gunpod

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Head ons: Delete enemy

proven arrow
naive hearth
hushed rain
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called it lol

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less than a week ™️

naive hearth
twilit flume
frail crag
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YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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From the same fellas who got all the leaks right for last update

misty scaffold
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F-5T goes nuclear

mossy marten
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F-5 with IRIS would go crazy

mossy marten
hushed rain
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god rafale my beloved is finally coming

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mirage f1 is not surviving winter sale </3

brave hound
nova crown
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Sir a second TOR has hit the Chinese ground tree

mossy marten
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I just looked it up

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it's a Turbo-Tor wtf

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it's just a pantsir on tracks

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This is fucking insane tho

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China is getting a 2nd, better TOR before USA gets something other than the ADATS or other nations like Israel don't rely on a fucking Chaparral

misty scaffold
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Bruh

brave hound
misty scaffold
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Real

rough mortar
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im abt to do my F-16 tree and my F-14 tree

mossy marten
wintry copper
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jaek moment

mossy marten
mossy marten
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check this shit out

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It's an app for war thunder that lets you queue snipe easier

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so u can have like 8 friends in one lobby

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@frail crag u too

frail crag
hushed rain
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y'all think dev blogs start this week maybe?

mossy marten
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Maybe

hushed rain
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im inclined to believe yes but

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we will see

hushed rain
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that is

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a crazy troll

hushed rain
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LMFAO???

acoustic cairn
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lol

proven arrow
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the VR controls

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holy shit this is gonna be fire

fleet halo
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game looks sick though

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this is neat

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I hope the devs played the heck out of vtol vr to try to hone in its haptic feedback

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cause imo the haptics is a major part of what makes vtol feel immersive and also playable

fleet halo
twilit flume
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so we will see

fleet halo
grand osprey
fleet halo
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impossible

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For the longest time the oculus runtime for vtol had neutered haptics and it was always jarring to play on it

frail crag
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Happiest warthunder player

mossy marten
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China Air tree is pretty much done.

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I have USA, Russia, Japan, and now China for top tier air

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now to move onto Sweden.

frail crag
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New decal

mossy marten
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hell yeah

hushed rain
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knew it

wintry copper
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lmao they made the premium a tt

hushed rain
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eh

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new apc lame

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gimmie air dev blog

hushed rain
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trailer on uhhh

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tuesday

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trust

mossy marten
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potentially

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I would say it's too early

hushed rain
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im calling tuesday

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the 10th

mossy marten
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but given this most recent update was super delayed.

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it's very possible.

hushed rain
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wait

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no im stupid

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thursday

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im calling it now

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one week from today we get trailer

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reasoning

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its not uncommon for trailer to be around a week, if not a week away, from the first dev

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also trailers almost always drop on thursdays

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i thought i remembered tuesday for some reason

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dev server next friday

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i say update on uhhhh

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18th-20th

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im locking that in as my perdiction for this update

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update name is gonna start with an "E"

formal sable
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What’ll be new? Still waiting for ammo boxes

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Ignore me

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Reading it now

mossy marten
formal sable
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Hmm who has em

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Or what vehicles

mossy marten
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SPAA/ATGM reliant vehicles

hushed rain
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wow ok shuttle

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really gonna make me keep my word on that huh

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better hope im right I guess lmfao

wintry copper
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the Italian 8 shell wonder does

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hell even does the Type 99 does

hushed rain
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im confident in my guesses

mossy marten
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Thai sub tree for Japan Air Tree

hushed rain
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oh sweet

mossy marten
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Thailand Gripen to Japan

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Yippee

hushed rain
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gripen in every tree speedrun

mossy marten
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It’ll be awhile before we see the F-2

misty scaffold
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Noooooooooooo

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Gripen these nuts

formal sable
frail crag
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVJn3nUTwHY <@&1278618075792539648> THIS IS NOT A DRILL

solar rapids
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Be still my beating heart

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I think I just messed my pants

misty scaffold
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No Hornet womp womp

frail crag
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@solar rapids UK & Germany players can finally rest

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Rafale looks so fucking good tho

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lowkey might have to check out that french tree

hushed rain
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fuck my prediction was wrong

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rafale my goat🙏🙏

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no f18 still 🔥

hushed rain
hushed rain
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im copping mirage F1 when the sale rolls around

misty scaffold
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All I see are more targets for my F-15C and F-16C

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Eurofighter goes hard though

solar rapids
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I need to get a prem Brit now

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THE GRIND IS BACK BABY

hushed rain
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shit we might get this update way sooner than i was expecting lol

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my perdicitions were so wrong 😭

hushed rain
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ok idk what it is buy like

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specifically the shots with the rafale in them have like

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really good lighting??

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im not the only one who noticed this right

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the rafale shots specifically having the best lighting in the trailer

acoustic cairn
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im gunna kms no f-18 still

mossy marten
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locking in to watch the trailer

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engaging minimap

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loading 4k

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holding balls

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we are go

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EUROFIGHTER WITH ONLY AIM-9M's

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Rus-slop cope ramp boat gets featured but no cool CATOBAR for Rafale.

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lame

hushed rain
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not rafale m

mossy marten
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C still is a CATOBAR

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aircraft

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nvm

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ur right

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The C isnt

hushed rain
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yeah the C is the air force varient

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M is the naval

mossy marten
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also the trailer felt weak for a "end of year update"

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felt more like a mid year trailer

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idrm as long as the things they add are cool

hushed rain
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also no wing vapors kek

fleet halo
grand osprey
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or is it already in the game with the gripen

naive hearth
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I ain’t super familiar with jets in war thunder or anything, but is datalink in the game?

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Cause if it wasn’t, I’m pretty sure it’s in now lol

misty scaffold
hushed rain
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9x in dev trust

misty scaffold
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Oh boy I can’t wait to fight against them in my 9M 120A F-15C

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I swear if they don’t add 14.0 I’m gonna cry

frail crag
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The German version is rocking AIM-9L/I’s cause apparently Germany never adopted the 9M, so they grabbed a version of the 9L that has the 9M seeker head

wintry copper
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the lack of even early ASRAAMs is laughable

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though unsurprising

misty scaffold
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The AIM-9 JULI is an export 9J with an all aspect seeker head and IRCCM pretty sure

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The German EF might get that

frail crag
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Excited to see how the flight model is for the eurofighter, gonna grind it out asap for Italy 💪💪

nova crown
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@mossy marten laser jdam and brimstone?

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brimstones and laser jdam are both crazy cas additions if true

queen imp
nova crown
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lame

fleet halo
wintry copper
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or

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they should be

nova crown
misty scaffold
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15E’s yes

wintry copper
misty scaffold
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I’m surprised the C got GBU-31s

wintry copper
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since gaijin can't make up their mind on modernizations

wintry copper
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yet none of the US aircraft have EGBUs or anything

mossy marten
wintry copper
mossy marten
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no

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like

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The Mirage2KRDV

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or whatever

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has GBU-51

wintry copper
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48 49 and 50

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still find it crazy gaijin removed the GPS on 24s

wooden sleet
grand osprey
wintry copper
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those are love handles my guy

misty scaffold
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Eurofighter Supremacy

hushed rain
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rafale mogs

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eurocels coping in thread fr

hushed rain
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well shit

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rafale fans just got mogged

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6 micas

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that's it

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no magics even

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just 6 micas

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worse kit than m2k goes crazy 🤑

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not even an ASEA radar

brisk heart
hushed rain
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it has the least range of any fox 3 in the game pretty sure

brisk heart
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Then what is it for ?

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Medium range engagements ?

hushed rain
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dogfight missile

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it's thrust vectoring

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that's it's most effective use case

brisk heart
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Also it has an IR version too yea ? One that's pretty decent ?

brisk heart
hushed rain
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for now

hushed rain
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it's just ridiculous because if it stays like this

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it's worse than the mirage 2k

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which has 6 micas and 2 magic 2s

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rafale currently has just 6 micas which is ridiculous considering it should be able to hold like 8-10 depending on the varient

brisk heart
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Also Mirage 2k getting more missiles is crazy

wintry copper
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until the 77-1 or the 77M, the adder remains the worst in range

hushed rain
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still it's hard points are completely fucked currently and it needs to be changed

mossy marten
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Japan ties with Sweden for the best gripen.

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Gripen with AIM-120’s

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UK tree gets derbys (yuck)

frail crag
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Full list I compiled while watching the stream.

America

Ground:

RDF-LT (11.7, Premium)

M44 (4.0, Tree)

Germany

Ground:

PzH 2000 (7.7, Tree)

M44 (4.0, Tree)

Strela-10M (10.3, Tree)

Air:

EF-2000 (13.7, Tree)

Bluewater:

Z4 Zerstörer (4.3, Tree)

Russia

Ground:

BMD-4M (9.3, Premium)

Air:

Su-33 (13.0, Squadron)

Bluewater:

Archangelsk (7.0, Tree)

Britain

Ground:

Strela-10M (10.3, Tree)

M44 (4.0, Tree)

Air:

EF-2000 (13.7, Tree)

Bluewater:

HMS Rodney (7.0, Tree)

Japan

Ground:

M44 (4.0, Tree)

Air: F-84G-21-RE (7.7, Tree)

Alpha Jet A (9.0, Tree)

Alpha Jet TH (10.3, Tree)

A-7E (10.7, Tree)

AV-8S Late (10.7, Tree)

F-5A (10.7, Tree)

F-5T SCU (11.3, Tree)

F-16A OCU (13.7, Tree)

JAS39C (13.7, Tree)

China Ground:

HQ-17 (11.7, Tree)

Italy

Ground:

M44 (4.0, Tree)

PzH 2000HU (7.7, Premium)

Strela-10M (10.3, Tree)

Air:

EF-2000 (13.7, Tree)

Bluewater:

RN Ghibli (4.0, Tree)

France

Ground:

M44 (4.0, Tree)

VBCI (9.3, Tree)

Air:

Rafale CF F3 (13.7, Tree)

Helicopter:

AH-64D (12.0, Premium)

Bluewater:

La Galissonier (5.7, Tree)

Sweden

Ground:

CV 90 Mk.IV (10.7, Tree)

Israel

Ground:

Namer Tsrikhon (11.0, Tree)

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misty scaffold
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11.3 F-5T is crazy

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13.7 Eurofighter, Rafale, and 13.0 Su-33 is nuts

wintry copper
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not really for the Rafale or the Su-33

misty scaffold
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Top tier is kinda gonna be shit with all these modern jets to compete with though

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They should have moved the EF2000 and Rafale to 14.0 and move the F-15E with

wintry copper
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Rafale isn’t going to do much better than the 5F but ok

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also the F-5T can be considered worse than the FCU

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2 missiles vs 2 of the same missiles + 2 slightly worse

frail crag
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https://youtu.be/n-p5LxLigPk?si=shdtPphCVgpGK_FD @mossy marten @naive hearth new derp cannon looks awesome

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Krab time

frail crag
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Eurofighter looks insane

wintry copper
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as much as I hate MatAWG

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EF-2000 was expected to be solid

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(keep in mind this is without EJ200s, although it seems the Rb199s are overperforming as of current)

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Rafale doesn't do all that well in a scissor fight surprisingly

solar rapids
mossy marten
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@wintry copper genuinely funny interaction.

wintry copper
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lmfao

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not like the 33 even changes that much

mossy marten
mossy marten
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And Russia unlike China isn’t a small niche country in WT

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Russia is getting the US ground treatment in their air tree

wintry copper
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fair enough

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have you seen the rafale's fm at all btw

mossy marten
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No

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Is it bad/good?

mossy marten
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On the real tho

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They need to nerf the J-10

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170° horizontal radar fov is fucking nuts

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When I engage people, I’m already 15° off the notch

wintry copper
mossy marten
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: (

wintry copper
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just feels like a heavier M4K with better pull

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I could keep up fairly well with a rafale in a block 10 (to be fair the guy I was fighting isn't the best at dogfighting)

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but it's a general idea

mossy marten
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I’m glad the Euroid is coming to the game tho.

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It has a similar FM to the F-15E

mossy marten
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More war thunder players with too much speed than they know what to do with.

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Higher closure rates on inexperienced players means easier kills.

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Extreme closure rate isn’t always good thing when fighting a peer

mossy marten
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Yeah.

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I mean FM by like

wintry copper
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literally coal situation

mossy marten
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TWR/Top speed

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Where is my J-10B

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Give me AESA

wintry copper
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sure it can do this but if you find yourself in this situation regardless

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you're fucked

mossy marten
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yeah.

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I’m actually excited to fight Euroids

jaunty jolt
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Any tips to have a consitant grind and not spend 10 years for one new generation of fighters

frail crag
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https://youtu.be/N3LmWED2sxo?si=FXURuUtwd4e0F4Rg

@misty scaffold @mossy marten @solar rapids @nova crown top tier air just got raised to 14.0 hog

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Strike Eagle, eurofighter, Rafael are the only things at 14.0 tho

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12.7 Mig-29s dont gotta worry about getting evaporated by strike eagles no more i guess

misty scaffold
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Holy shit no way? I called it

mossy marten
wintry copper
hushed rain
hushed rain
mossy marten
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MiG-29's being left alone is going to bring back the golden age

frail crag
hushed rain
mossy marten
wintry copper
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"John Leclerc"

tender drift
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I gotta lock in and grind war thunder again

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I grinded up to the f15C

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Quit for a few months

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And then the a10, late f111 models and the streagle drops

proven shadow
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Apparently we’re getting dead/seas soon

mossy marten
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Isn’t captor AESA?

mossy marten
fleet halo
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it can also mechanically gimbal

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giving it an insane like 200° fov or somethin

mossy marten
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Hm

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Interesting

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In game currently (dev client) it’s only like 160°

fleet halo
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yeah this video shows it off a bit

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timestamped

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its gimbal system is also really goofy

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also timestamped

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it looks like how the 35B rotates its nozzles

eager sluice
mossy marten
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I hope the euro is OP

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Underdog matches are fun

wintry copper
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not for a T.2

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T.2s retain CAPTOR-M afaik

mossy marten
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So there is a non active and active with the name CAPTOR?

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Ah

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I see

wintry copper
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they have a letter designation

mossy marten
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U right

wintry copper
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but gaijin omitted it

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still a crazy good MSA though

hushed rain
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does rafale still only have 6 missiles 😭

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most insane fumble ever

mossy marten
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Rafale allegedly has AESA and they’re modeling it right?

fleet halo
frail crag
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<@&1278618075792539648> winter event announced and you just gotta grind to earn the prizes 🚨🚨🚨

Top air reward will be the first fighter with an AESA, Colombian Kfir under Israel

Top ground reward is a Pakistani T-80 under China

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Event starts Dec 20 I think

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Profit from selling that T-80 gonna be nuts 🤑🤑🤑🤑

misty scaffold
mossy marten
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Chinese T-80

mossy marten
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I bet it’s how they test it on live servers

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Before the addition of newer vecs with AESA’s

mossy marten
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You can slave ur sensor point of interest to the map in the next update.

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Which means, if you have a teammate who can spot the enemy by recon drone or whatever else

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U can have a teammate squad ping an enemy. U put ur PoI on their ping on the map.

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And u can send whatever munition to that point.

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Gonna go crazy with glide bombs and stuff

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More reason to bring friends to top tier

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To have fun

wintry copper
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this was shown during the teaser

mossy marten
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Super dope

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Can’t wait to use

mossy marten
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#1214168962040860693 message @nova crown @rough mortar

naive hearth
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he totally shoulda killed me

frail crag
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The country music really ties it all together lmao

mossy marten
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<@&1278618075792539648>

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I'm afraid

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a truthnuke

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has been dropped

worldly dust
tender drift
mossy marten
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no fucking way

wintry copper
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@mossy marten a bunch of bugs reports related to PIRATE passed btw

mossy marten
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the IRST?

wintry copper
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has its max range and 200 target tracking capability

mossy marten
#

what were the reports?

wintry copper
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as well as TWS

wintry copper
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so it got like

mossy marten
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???????????????????????

wintry copper
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50nm of range against an afterburner target in a head on

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capability to track 200 targets

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and TWS

mossy marten
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???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

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we're so fucked

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can it DL 120's with it?

wintry copper
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yeah.

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bug report passed on that too

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not to mention an RCS decrease

hushed rain
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its so over

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and the rafale still has 6 missiles

proven shadow
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We need a wt squad.

misty scaffold
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Bruh I’m never going to research this F-5 FCU

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Squadron vehicles need too much damn RP

mossy marten
mossy marten
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@frail crag @nova crown HOLY FUCK

fleet halo
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is this a good thing or a bad thing

nova crown
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bad

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tor is like a miny pantsir

acoustic cairn
hushed rain
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rafale still with 6 missiles kek

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micas are a bit better now at least

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I guess

mossy marten
#

Did they get buffed?

hushed rain
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I think it was just a buff... well more of a fix, to thrust vectoring physics

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but their range is still borked

wintry copper
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they won't spin out anymore

wintry copper
#

MICAs currently have pretty good range

hushed rain
wintry copper
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meh

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gaijin took the "safer range" estimation of a MICA (outright shorter than listed anywhere)

hushed rain
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irl it can hit up to 60km shots

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the NG hits closer to the 100km mark

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they fucked the fm for it

wintry copper
#

not as much of a kinematics problem as it is just notching

frail crag
mossy marten
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Please god no

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I can’t escape it

frail crag
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THIS IS NOT A DRILL I REPEAT THIS IS NOT A DRILL

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HSTV(L): reload time: 1.5 -> 1 sec
RDF/LT: reload time: 1.5 -> 0.857 sec

mossy marten
#

Shit is fucking nuts

wintry copper
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speaking of

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German eurofighter just got 9Ms

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PzH has a reload of 5s for 3 shells then afterwards it’s 10s

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F-15E got AGM-130s finally

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Rafale now has 8 MICAs and more chaff

wintry copper
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@mossy marten type shi

hushed rain
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oh yeah

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its time

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8 mica

mossy marten
mossy marten
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<@&1278618075792539648> first week of winter sale

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50% off in-game SL purchases as well

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as well as 50% GE purchases

mossy marten
wooden adder
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Anyone want to play some top tier air? I’ll be in the British eurofighter

mossy marten
#

@static summit u have the WT role now

static summit
wooden adder
eager sluice
formal sable
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I think it's time to go down the pizza tank line

tender drift
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Is the mirage on sale for pc or steam?

mossy marten
worldly dust
mossy marten
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Party just ended

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: O

fleet halo
wintry copper
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dude I want to grind the italian tree so bad

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but i don't want to buy the A-1A

frail crag
wintry copper
#

actually wait

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deadass might buy the Ariete

frail crag
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i used the preem 104 to grind air but i just went and got through the ground tree raw

wintry copper
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I lost my chance to see it in person so I'll get it in its honor

frail crag
#

Ariete is a devious jet from what ive seen

wintry copper
#

one concern is facing supersonics, since they generally just outrun it

hushed rain
#

i think

brave hound
fleet halo
formal sable
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We ever gonna refine that image?

mossy marten
#

Nah

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The low effort shitpost nature makes it peak

mossy marten
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<@&1278618075792539648> gamba time

hushed rain
wintry copper
#

my friend got a T30 within his first 5

mossy marten
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OH FUCK YEASH

tender drift
#

there's always the chance for the rank 7 premium

rough mortar
static summit
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@mossy marten the premium pack sale is so ass omg

hushed rain
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dude im cooked

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i want the mirage f1 so bad but i didn't get ANY christmas money 😭

mossy marten
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😦

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Is the Christian 2 on sale?

hushed rain
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ok if i budget properly

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i might be able to

mossy marten
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Bruh.

tender drift
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sweeden suffers

hushed rain
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welp now I have a decision to make

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dcs module or mirage f1/j7d

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nvm dcs too expensive

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war thunder it is

wintry copper
hushed rain
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rafale is probably my favorite plane in service right now

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but the china tree will probably get some cool unique stuff later on

tender drift
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i hate the 1c's radar

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what the fuck

hushed rain
tender drift
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yes

hushed rain
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yeah im fully planning on just using the IR seeker horse cock missiles

tender drift
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same

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ive not gotten one kill with the radar

hushed rain
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magic 2s and the r530E

tender drift
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they either don't pull, get lost or swap over to TRK instead of MTI

hushed rain
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ive heard the gunpods are funny

wintry copper
hushed rain
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yeah

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but France will kinda just continue to get rafales now won't it

wintry copper
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so even if your radar keeps lock, high chance your missile doesn't

mossy marten
#

Yeah.

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I said last night don’t bother with the Radar missiles on the F1C

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It’s a 1 base bomb sled with 2 free kills via magic 2’s

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It does have that one Jumbo IR 530 which you can shoot at long ranges so there’s that.

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Going to buy this when I get home from work.

tender drift
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ill double check

mossy marten
#

It can

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With 2 SAMP 84’s

wintry copper
hushed rain
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im conflicted

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mirage f1c or j7d

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like I freaking love the rafale and mirage 2k

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but china gets one of those two and will get cool unique aircraft

misty scaffold
#

China unironically goated

tender drift
#

you get best f16

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rafale with 8 micas and UFO status

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and the mirage 2k

static summit
#

The snail literally wants me not to spend money

mossy marten
static summit
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The rgo and possibly the night attack

mossy marten
#

Both are too new I think.

static summit
#

They were on sale in November

frail crag
fleet halo
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@frail crag gonna see what all the hubbub about this gun pod is

wintry copper
fleet halo
static summit
fleet halo
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Although I did promote the crew to expert and the g tolerance is insane

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In earlier games I kept blacking out in dogfights even though I had G tolerance and Stamina maxed out

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promoted the crew and that problem is like 80% gone so it's a pretty good dogfighter now

misty scaffold
#

The F-5E is so much fun. I wish we had the gun pod in DCS

tender drift
#

1m silver lions lets fuckin go

fleet halo
#

what going on in chat

frail crag
hushed rain
static summit
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@mossy marten playing the f-16 aj with all these prema tards out is epic

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i cant get in top tier lobbies anymore cuz of q times

fleet halo
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@frail crag YO YOU CAN UNLOCK THIS SKIN FOR FREE????

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I'm loving this thing more and more

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I'm six kills away from this one

misty scaffold
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that one goes hard

fleet halo
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it do

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the navy one is a bit harder imo

misty scaffold
#

true

fleet halo
#

but i'm like 70ish kills away from that one so it's gonna be a minute

misty scaffold
static summit
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@mossy marten

fleet halo
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drip aquired

static summit
mossy marten
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He just exploded

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Client side tree?

misty scaffold
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Looks like it

hushed rain
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look in bottom left

misty scaffold
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that's wild

mossy marten
#

Wait

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No way

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Holy fuck

hushed rain
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f1 time

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woohoo

frail crag
fleet halo
naive hearth
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finally got me one of thems radar SPAA

frail crag
fleet halo
frail crag
fleet halo
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just need to grind to 1.6 million SL then I can start researching a top tier

formal sable
#

Ok, gents, I am going to buy 2 of the preems on sale, what should I get, one air, one ground

misty scaffold
#

F-5C is still a solid pick

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Midas has been grinding Germany with the Lazur

formal sable
#

Hmm, I do need to do Germany

hushed rain
#

magic 2s at 12.0 are two free kills

formal sable
#

Just got the Turm 3

frail crag
formal sable
#

The fact he had over a mil in the bank is what caught my attention

naive hearth
frail crag
#

GLORIA ALL'ITALIA!!! QUASI ALL'EUROFIGHTER BABY!!!!

fleet halo
frail crag
frail crag
#

@mossy marten @worldly dust @misty scaffold @fleet halo @queen imp 🇮🇹 🇮🇹 🇮🇹 🇮🇹 L’Eurofighter Typhoon è lo spirito italiano scatenato nei cieli: una sinfonia di potenza, precisione ed eleganza. Nato dall'ingegno italiano e dall'unità europea, ruggisce nei cieli come un moderno gladiatore, difendendo la nostra terra con la ferocia di un leone e la grazia di una ballerina. Nelle mani dei nostri impavidi piloti, si trasforma in più di una macchina; diventa un’impennata testimonianza del coraggio, della passione e dell’incrollabile determinazione dell’Italia a conquistare i cieli.

worldly dust
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Na this man grinding crazy

frail crag
worldly dust
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This bro rn

frail crag
#

real shit

formal sable
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Oooh I got my first mark of distinction

mossy marten
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@frail crag

hushed rain
frail crag
proven arrow
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F20 went on sale for like half off

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hell yeah

misty scaffold
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It ain't worth it

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Constant Uptiers to 13.7 with no ARH missiles and only 50 CMS total

proven arrow
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meh, ill find a way to make it work

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plus

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air arcade

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how many people would join if i made a squadron

frail crag
proven arrow
formal sable
frail crag
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ITALIA IS DONE BOYS!!!

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AIR, GROUND, HELI TREES ALL DONE!!!

misty scaffold
#

Ciao ciao Bella ciao, Bella ciao ciao

queen imp
wintry copper
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@mossy marten @frail crag

frail crag
mossy marten
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Lmfao I’m jealous.

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Good pull.

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Shit is nuclear

frail crag
#

I was the Centaruo devious

mossy marten
wintry copper
fathom spear
#

Anyone wanna play ARB 10.7 or higher

mossy marten
fathom spear
#

Some warthunder A10 warthog action??

wintry copper
#

Rafale will get an RCS of 0.01m^2

#

what the hell

misty scaffold
#

That’s off by a factor of 100

#

It should realistically be around 1

fleet halo
#

so close

frail crag
#

insane teammate

frail crag
#

@fleet halo

frail crag
worldly dust
#

@fleet halo

frail crag
#

@worldly dust @nova crown
In top tier Air RB, it's not just about flying a jet—it's about being an egoist. You don’t wait for the team; you become the world-class striker of the skies. Every maneuver, every missile launch, it’s about asserting dominance.

I’m not just another pilot; I’m a genius in the cockpit. While others rely on their team to carry them, I carve my own path. Those who hesitate, those half-baked players who can’t commit to a dogfight, they get left behind. Up here, there’s no room for doubt.

My weapon isn’t just the jet—it’s my mind, my instincts, my ability to predict and react. I trigger chemical reactions with the premium players on my team. I read the enemy’s off-the-ball movement, anticipate their next move, and strike before they even realize they’ve lost.

And when I’ve locked onto my target, I don’t just engage—I lock off their options, sealing their fate. This isn’t just a game; it’s a battle of wills, and only the strongest egoist will rise as the ultimate ace.

You'll never cut it at this BR with that half-baked airframe and those half-baked missiles

tender drift
static summit
#

@mossy marten japan will get a 120mm gun version of this soon

static summit
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@mossy marten the thrust to weight on f-15e is 5.7 japan f-15jm is 5.4

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its fdifferent engines then normal f-15

mossy marten
#

Where are you getting that number?

wintry copper
#

F100-PW-229s vs F100-PW-220Es

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early mudhens got -220Es too, but got updated to the -229

fleet halo
fleet halo
#

drip acquired

misty scaffold
frail crag
static summit
fathom spear
#

Can someone teach me how to defeat radar missles in warthunder

fleet halo
#

@frail crag drip acquired

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also fellas

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it's time

frail crag
#

F-15 prolly the better pick

misty scaffold
#

I know it’s a long ass grind, I did it; but use the F-5E and F-4E to grind the F-15C and then use the 15C to finish top tier

#

The F-16A and 15A I skipped. I still don’t have enough SL to buy the naval tree

fleet halo
#

yeah probably gonna do that

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sucks that it has to go up against fox 3s

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if it was just aim-54s i would be fine with it

#

but aim-120s vs an aim-7 aircraft is wild

mossy marten
#

early F-16's are better.

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Later F15's are better

misty scaffold
#

He's true

#

Is the Block 10 Viper at 12.0?

#

Or am I looking at that wrong, they're both at 12.7?

tender drift
#

f15c is better at top tier

misty scaffold
#

Yeah, I'm dumb

tender drift
#

one has 9ls only along with a2g

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the other has 9ls and 7fs

misty scaffold
#

yeah the 16A Bl10 has 9Js and 9Ls

wintry copper
#

12.0 would be criminal

worldly dust
#

7 kill game with a 500% booster

misty scaffold
#

Holy shit you’re almost up to top tier with the F-4F ICE

worldly dust
#

researching the eurofigther now

frail crag
frail crag
hushed rain
#

actually pretty tame and normal

mossy marten
formal sable
#

Anyone got some tips for bush placement on smaller tanks?

#

Like RU251 or Turm 3?

#

Also is the PZH 2000 worth it, or just skip?

wintry copper
tender drift
#

Anyone down to do 12.3 air or 10.3 ground in 30?

worldly dust
#

@frail crag @nova crown @fleet halo

#

RAHHHHHHHHRAHHH RAHHH

formal sable
#

What was the reason we don't have a CAW squadron again?

nova crown
#

its just better to join a big and active squadron

hushed rain
fleet halo
fleet halo
#

It's phantom friday somewhere

hushed rain
#

that's what I do

fleet halo
formal sable
frail crag
#

WOAAAAAAAAAH

fleet halo
# frail crag <:wowzers:1127066654870876244>

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