DCS

[violet brook]

yup literally out en

rm

rn bloody hell

[rugged fog]

This thing better have ffb support

Or i will spend far to much time crafting a custom profile

[stone plover]

wait wut...

we doing FPS views on the ground now?

we Star Citizen-ing our DCS now??

[gusty pollen]

I mean this is sorta already a thing

cause after you eject and land on the ground you can walk around with wasd

entering cockpit animation is interesting though but not sure if it's really worth the dev time tbh

[stone plover]

yeah...Interesting choice

between this and the FPS loadmaster on the C-130 I wonder if this is potentially a new feature coming to everything at some point

[keen scroll]

Imagine how sick that would be though

[gusty pollen]

if it had to be done everytime that shi would get annoyin fast

[keen scroll]

The ideal sim would include a vtol style briefing room that you then leave to be driven to your jet

[gusty pollen]

would be neat to try once or twice but after that I would rather just spawn in the cockpit

[keen scroll]

I mean obviously that would need to be optional

[gusty pollen]

star citizen-ah gameplay

[keen scroll]

I think that would be goated

I'm imagining sitting in a car like in arma or something with the gang before you start your sortie

[gusty pollen]

could be interesting for a persistent dynamic campaign type beat

like if you're in a server with a long running campaign all the aircraft are already spawned in on the ramp instead of only spawning in when a player is in it

[keen scroll]

Oh yeah and maybe the replacement aircraft spawn in a special maintenance facility and you need to pick them up there if you are out

The Larping possibilities are endless

[gusty pollen]

what if they added the world map at the same time and you have to fly the jets out yourself from their home country to whatever airbase they need to go to for the operation

[keen scroll]

Yeah tort ahh missions. Honestly doing a like 7 hour relocation flight in a dynamic campaign sounds pretty zen

I could see myself doing that every now and then

[gusty pollen]

then you have the one dude who can't a2a refuel and the whole flight has to divert to another country

[keen scroll]

Nah I'd let that guy divert on his own, fuck em if they have a skissue

It's really sad how easily that could be reality

If some billionaire threw a few hundred million dollars at the issue we'd have this sim in a few years

Smh my h

[gusty pollen]

I've been thinkin about this a lot recently and it made me realize that past a certain point or in certain industries, you really cant throw money at the problem

There's so many multi-million dollar movies that just end up being peak mid

[keen scroll]

I mean sure but that's because they are trying to make money, so they come up with generic garbage

If you just outright hire the entire BMS team for sim + a major AAA studio for engine and graphics you should be good

[gusty pollen]

yeah it tends to happen in more creative projects like movies and games

but still you would think after all these years that movie makers would've perfected how to make a banger movie if it costs hundreds of millions to produce lmao

[keen scroll]

They've perfected how to spend ungodly amounts on sets and CGI but at the end of the day Script and Acting is like 80% of what makes a good movie

I think it's just desperate executives trying to predict what is novel enough to sell while being a safe investment

If you know exactly what you want (perfect sim) and you don't care about turning a profit I think you'd be hard pressed to mess it up

The same way SpaceX is making progress much more efficiently than the ongoing shit show that is SLS

The only downfall I could see is immense feature creep like star shitizen

[stone plover]

Hornet radar kinda fixed?

[weary pawn]

Big viggen update

[stone plover]

Gonna jump on to watch the baby 29s learn to walk on TTI

[sturdy topaz]

zoom meeting between razbam and ed got leaked from back in april of '24

[stone plover]

ruh roh

[sturdy topaz]

nick grug has been confirmed to abhor working with hb too

https://www.rxddit.com/r/DCSExposed/s/COtRFanWIH

[stone plover]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gotB5q-uqLk&t=1s

[forest flint]

Lmao just like actually doing the startup procedure

[gusty pollen]

i dont think i ever did a full "proper" startup

those tutorial vids that go over them is like half an hour long aint got time for all tha

[forest flint]

I have never actually started the jf-17

Setting up all the details after its already started is enough for me

[stone plover]

I do the essential stuff for functionality...but I'm not about to RP and test out the fire suppression system

[forest flint]

5 minutes of typing in numbers on the UFC 😭

Then letting the tgp turn on

[gusty pollen]

wait when you say doing the startup procedure, do you mean like the whole start up that includes testin everything, or do you mean just using the auto start instead of manually flippin the switches?

[forest flint]

Then letting it get warmed up

[forest flint]

Hot spawn vs cold and dark manually

[gusty pollen]

what do you do when a server only has cold spawns?

[stone plover]

battery>apu>engines>alignment>

then weapons

[forest flint]

Auto start

[gusty pollen]

bruh

[forest flint]

Or i dont play on it

[gusty pollen]

auto start takes such a long time

[forest flint]

Not in jeffery

Like 30 seconds

[gusty pollen]

idk about the jeff but in stuff like the viper it takes way too long so you're better off flippin the switches you need

[forest flint]

And by 15 im able to start setting up my sortie profile while the plane continues to start

[forest flint]

Yeah i remember doing that when i played it

Like 2 years ago i hopped back in it bc i was getting pissed off at our lack of CAP and i managed to still start it just by looking at switches

After having not flown it for 3 years

[violet brook]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx13cTb2r74

babe wake up new herc video dropped

including cargo system and load master pov!!!

[south gust]

Has anyone checked out the F-23A mod?

Not a module, a mod

[rugged fog]

from what I can see its nothing really special

kinda 30mins of fun like the raptor mod or oh-6

[unborn flame]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1021274737894232146/1418388259842687157/attachment.gif

[south gust]

oh god how tf do i bind controls

witf is MOUSE_Z and why doesnt it work when i move or scroll my mouse

do i even have enough buttons and axes???

t.flight HOTAS one doesnt have any pre made setups for the 14

[stone plover]

step 1) breathe

step 2) have you looked at Chuck's guides?

use this as a good starting point

basic flight controls are universal (pitch, roll, thrust)...the rest is up to you

[south gust]

There are several problems: the only axes I have are my stick, my throttle, my rudders, and the rudder tilt for wheel brakes. Everything else is a button

[stone plover]

perhaps I'm being dumb...what other Axes do you need?

[south gust]

Camera controls, mostly

[stone plover]

ah

[south gust]

Zoom, moving my head around, etc

No trackIR moment

[stone plover]

gotcha...maybe make use of a modifier bind with your hat switch?

regular hat = trim / hat + 5 = head move?

[south gust]

Camera only accepts axis inputs as far as I can see, and the hat is a button

[stone plover]

is this your first DCS module?

[south gust]

Yeah…

[stone plover]

just trying to think if the F-14 has any eccentricities

gimme some time today and I'll play around with this

[south gust]

Apparently direct lift control is practically required to be bound for carrier landings, according to some guy named reaper

[stone plover]

no, you can bind it to buttons

just checked

try those

might be a little inelegant, but that's what you are working with

DLC for me is kinda a "meh" thing

I don't normally notice it a ton

but I also am not a Tomcat main

also make peace with the fact that you are gonna still be touching your keyboard + mouse (even I do too)

[south gust]

Kk

Thx!

[hushed imp]

I mean it helps, but isnt 100% req, if its your first dcs module, imo worry about carrier landings later

[violet brook]

do you have a phone

or a webcam

[south gust]

I have a phone yeah

[violet brook]

you can connect ur phone to ur PC as a camera and then use an app to track ur head movements

not as good as track ir obviously but

it certainly works

[toxic frost]

vr ?

[south gust]

Headset is back home

[toxic frost]

fair enough

[south gust]

Planning on yoinking it back around thanksgiving

[violet brook]

plus vr DCS is a bitch to run

[toxic frost]

oh yes i know

i hate it

i love it but i hate it

[stone plover]

Between all of us here, we can get you setup with the gear you got

Chucks is also a fantastic resource as well.

https://chucksguides.com/

[stone plover]

Also consider installing SRS if you want to play online

[stone plover]

That sentiment seems to sum up DCS at times too...

[toxic frost]

you're god damn right

[whole cove]

[stone plover]

I shall be diccus'ing tonight if anyone wishes company. It's nice to have the Hornet radar fixed

[south gust]

yeah id be down

[south gust]

most likely gonna be fucking with controls most of the time lol but ill probably be there

[stone plover]

happy to help! DCS can be a bit much if this is your first time

[south gust]

whenever you're ready

[stone plover]

will likely be in a few hours or so

I'll ping you when I'm on after dinner and such

[south gust]

kk

kk

[hushed imp]

if your down I may be on to do a little RIOing

[south gust]

Yeah sure

Gonna be a little late bc of an Arma op

[violet brook]

i need to redownload DCS now that i have the space for it and hop on one of these nights

still havent really ever learned the viper

might fc3 it out

[rugged fog]

I really dont get this sentiement

far more than playable on 2 gen old budget hardware

[whole cove]

The QoL of playing in VR is kinda a bummbertho

[rugged fog]

it can be a pain if you need a lot of keyboard controls but dcs just isnt fun without it

[whole cove]

DCS is more fun Flatscreen IMVHO

[rugged fog]

I enjoy flatscreen if I am doing RIO or WSO or something in between

flying anything though I have no good reason to not just play vr, I get 90fps or smooth reprojected 90 (again on 2 year old budget hardware) with medium high settings, and the bootup and launch process is simple and doesnt have anything weird about it

can kinda just launch the game and it works, the biggest pain about playing dcs is mounting all the hotas to my desk

[whole cove]

simply have a dedicated DCS PC

[violet brook]

not performance wise

ive just never been able to have it run stably

maybe im just stupid though

would love some help getting it set up sometime soon if you're willing

because i have plenty good hardware I just cannot get it to run properly or well

[rugged fog]

a big one is to make sure your not juicing your resolution scale (especially on a quest 3) and your settings are actually set for vr

most of the settings are limited by your drive and memory

you can also just hit a wall if you ever try and play syria on anything but 32gb of memory and an nvme

but again both of those can be had for very very cheap

[silent yarrow]

DCS hogs a lot of vram too. I’m vr flying 100% of the time. 10700k/3080/64gb @ 3600mbps/gen3 nvme. Great performance in single player, a little less in multiplayer.

[rugged fog]

big one if your textures are on high

[stone plover]

My issues with DCS in VR have everything to do with my Index.

[rugged fog]

I dont use my index for dcs anymore, it ran perfectly but the resolution is just too low

[stone plover]

Yep. Will def try it again on whatever headset number two is.

But I agree with Bitzs...it's a totally different feeling in VR

[rugged fog]

I went with a quest 3 as my vtol/dcs headset and its dope

just get a good cable that can charge and link at the same time

FOV feels nearly identical to the index and the resolution is just nuts

[stone plover]

I keep waiting for Deckard...might have to give up.

[rugged fog]

deckard is probably sooner than we think, but dont really know if the price will be good for a dcs/vtol headset

your just going to be paying for all the standalone stuff to not use it

Quest's are at a good price because its meta and they subsidize with data and are also playing for market share, valve probably wont do that

[stone plover]

Yeah...I'd just prefer to give Valve the $$$ over meta.

We shall see. Pimax is a no and big screen seems to be mostly the form factor you are paying for (which is truly impressive)

[rugged fog]

big screen is huge for resolution

its the perfect pcvr headset

[stone plover]

I thought it was equivalent to Q3?

Don't mind a big headset...got them Index neck muscles

[rugged fog]

and if deckard is anywhere close to $1000 bsb2 is prob the way to go if thats the budget

[rugged fog]

quest 3 is only 70% of the bsb2 resolution

bigscreen is als oled

[whole cove]

This^^ all of this, is why I will swear up and down in favor for TrackIR + Large Screen

until VR can get to where it's like Ready Player One, where the visors are small enough with high enough definition, I'll stick with headtracking

VR isn't bad, it's just not for me

[rugged fog]

oh and one thing to consider is that no matter what you do your pc will have to compress and encode the video to get it to the headset

[rugged fog]

you should get a bsb2

its good for vr chat to

[whole cove]

I'm poor

[rugged fog]

fair

[whole cove]

I don't play VRC lmao

[rugged fog]

I thought you did

well thats what a lot of people like it for

[whole cove]

not even in my library

I think the last time I played it was 2023

anways. Deecoooos?

[rugged fog]

I could be convinced maybe in a bit

basically done learning the 29

that thing is far simpler than I expected

[whole cove]

I think I might get a bonus this month for work, Maybe I'll buy it

I'm really pissed off about early access business model tho

[stone plover]

About to pull the lasagna out and should be online in about 45

[whole cove]

I miss my 15E

[whole cove]

https://tenor.com/view/garfield-gif-26092221

[rugged fog]

its fun, but not necissarly going to have the biggest spot in the game

its worse than the FC one in capability and there isnt a server it fits in well with

...no 16, 15 or 18 A models

[whole cove]

damn really? Ouch. I guess I'll keep flying the FC one

[rugged fog]

I would buy it if you like learning the planes

[whole cove]

Doesn't it get 27ET/ER and R73 tho

[rugged fog]

its the reason I got it and I have a lot of fun

[rugged fog]

yeah those are nuts weapons especially for contention, but blue team hornets have datalink and still decent missiles, so they just have so much more info

you could just play a flanker on contention and have a much better experience because of the DL

[whole cove]

I can't wait for the F-15C FF. An actual full fidelity Eagle, the first airplane I ever bought for DCS and one of my first loves? Hell yeah

Not my true love, of course. That will always be Miss Rhino.

[rugged fog]

but again the experience of actually learning to fly and getting a kill is much more satisfying

I saw a reddit post about people talking about the fidelity feeling more like mid fidelity, which I kinda get that feeling but I think thats just cause the mig-29 is a super super simple plane irl

also flying around with the NS430 strapped to the dash feels cool

but I dont think most missions have it enabled

[whole cove]

I know it's how ED functions as a company, but the extra few dollars for a 1990s era GPS in the cockpit is really mid

plus how much the GPS unit costs to buy period

[rugged fog]

I just used my miles to buy it lol

[whole cove]

smart lol

I used the last of my miles to buy the P-47 iirc.

[violet brook]

in theory i should be fine

32gb ram, ssd, r7 5800x3d, 7900 GRE

[rugged fog]

m.2 or sata ssd?

[violet brook]

but idk i suppose i could just be stupid

m.2

[rugged fog]

whenever you get a chance open your launcher and take a screenshot of your graphics settings

[violet brook]

i gotta redownload the game first

[rugged fog]

fair lol

[violet brook]

[rugged fog]

what headset and runtime are you using as well

[violet brook]

quest 3, av1

thats

not a runtime.

i use vdxr

which im pretty sure is just openxr right

i generally just try to avoid steam vr unless the game has to use it

and i only ever use oculus if i wire connect

[rugged fog]

vdxr is what I use now but I will only ever play vr wired

[gusty pollen]

do you have to purchase that separately?

ah nvm just read more

[rugged fog]

I really recommend reverse tethering vdxr if meta link doesnt give you a good experience

it can take a second to setup, you need dev mode on the quest and stuff but once its on it works great

[gusty pollen]

lowkey if I go all in on that hotas overlay thingy I might get the decard just cause it got more buttons

a whole-ass 4 more buttons I think

[rugged fog]

smart

[gusty pollen]

cause I've been workshoppin how to practically integrate the hotas part with dcs and there doesn't seem to be a good way for the more hotas heavy aircraft like viper and hornet

although I think decard will have just enough buttons to make it work cause I think they're trying to make it more like a steam deck strapped to your head

[gusty pollen]

actually it might be a bit more

cause I think it might also include bumpers for flatscreen games too

[stone plover]

Jumping on soon. Wife is very pleased.

[south gust]

yeah my op is almost over ill be on in a sec too

[violet brook]

how the sigma do you do this

i would love to use wired without having to deal with meta bullshit

thats whats always kept me away from using wired more often

[south gust]

you down to help me with control bullshit?

[rugged fog]

this is a chatGPT convo that shuttle has that just actually tells you how to do it

[violet brook]

oh sweet

[rugged fog]

the last step is to make sure your quests wifi is off

if you get stuck ping me

I can also show you in a vc

[violet brook]

so this just lets you use vdxr with wired?

just to make sure

[rugged fog]

yup, it uses a normal link cable to create a vpn connection to your pc and then virtual desktop just sees it like normal

biggest step that isnt explained here is setting up dev mode on your quest

https://www.reddit.com/r/OculusQuest/comments/179m933/comment/k7odgqw/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[stone plover]

Finishing up and then yes

[south gust]

kk

[violet brook]

huh neat

[violet brook]

90% sure ive already done this

[stone plover]

@south gust lets do this

[toxic frost]

hell yeah

[stone plover]

sorry..showing this all to Wizfiz as we're chatting

[gusty pollen]

that throttle is really good for what it is

my first hotas set up was that throttle with the vkb stick

[violet brook]

prolly gonna download tonight

[rugged fog]

if you need help setting up reverse tethering lmk

I can also help optimize graphics

[violet brook]

huge thank you to both

[stone plover]

Contention is fun...I suck, but it's exciting AF.

[rugged fog]

Sarh is really unique

Fun but you also have to be super intentional

[stone plover]

Yeah... Far more in the vein of Grayflag but far more intense with PvP.

Had fun bating a Mig so I could lob HARMs. And you get extra points for carrier landings.

[stone plover]

For sure. My lone AA kill last night with everyone was a Fox 2 in the during that initial furball we found ourselves in just outside of the airstrip. Def gotta get my head tracking back up and dialed in.

[rugged fog]

Yeah it's hectic, could be cool to get into actually doing strike packages rather than just taking off to shoot whoever

[stone plover]

Don't threaten me with a good time...

[whole cove]

Deeeeecous?

[whole cove]

no more diccoos

[stone plover]

I could diccus for a bit

[whole cove]

I just hopped off. I got my ass whooped by AI F-5s

[stone plover]

well 5 is greater than 4...

[whole cove]

https://tenor.com/view/dcs-f4-wobble-gif-15887440356278607769

[stone plover]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIf8ydSzecQ

[whole cove]

DiCcuS tonight

[stone plover]

Might jump on. Want to try my hand at recon flights on Contention.

[whole cove]

I’ve been jonesing to do some WSO / RIO stuff

[silent yarrow]

I’d like to join but will probably be too late for you guys.

[whole cove]

I think I can stay up a bit tonite.

[silent yarrow]

Sometimes DCS just sucks. Was flying on SPS Contention Red side. Flew all the way from Damascus to Palmyra in a Flanker to provide cap, lock up a Harrier, press weapon release, DCS crash. 😖

[stone plover]

https://tenor.com/view/parks-and-rec-ron-swanson-screaming-scream-screams-gif-21763857

[stone plover]

You are more than welcome to RIO if you would like...although I just plan on being high, fast and running back to the boat after I burn through my film.

might be a little boring

[whole cove]

does TARPS work?

[stone plover]

unsure...but the recon seems to just be a server mod...doesn't matter what you fly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP8VXyIC248

[whole cove]

oh wow

Seems like fun

Although, I can't remember if it was contention or another server that was kinda whack and I didn't feel like playing on because it was super limiting and larp-ey

[stone plover]

was it Grayflag? I think they had more rules like it could only be a Tomcat and then it would take like an hour or so to develop the film

[whole cove]

Nah, Grayflag I like when I'm not being ass-🍇'd by the enemy naval units lol

I forget what it was called

[whole cove]

I guess Contention looks cool. I think it was the Cold War version, or maybe HB’s Cold War that sucks ass

I want to fly my Phantom unrestricted.

[hushed imp]

on contention non cold war phantoms get harms

[stone plover]

Practicing a few more traps and then I'll be on. Been a minute since I Tomcatted on a boat

[gusty pollen]

I'm down to hop on too

need to practice some a2g stuff for da hornet

[stone plover]

jumping on

<@&1095016968643428422> airplane nerds assemble!

[gusty pollen]

on in like 4 min

[north ermine]

If only DCS would actually run... I'd say properly, but more like at all... on linux.

That shit's harder to get working than VR

[fierce depot]

What server?

[whole cove]

I guess I gotta learn the DCS mission editor and start making my own missions so that they're fun

[gusty pollen]

Did a random-ah strike on this sam site the other day just to practice the jdam stuff. Turns out there was this chinook that was barreling towards it to drop off troops but my bombs happened to kill those sites before the dude got there

He was flying in a straight line the entire time so I'm relatively sure he was blissfully unaware lol

[whole cove]

The Hornet is the only jet with GBU-32 right?

[gusty pollen]

if strike eagle doesn't have it then yeah I think so

afaik gbu-32 is mainly a navy thing cause you don't see them super often in pics of air force jets

[gusty pollen]

yeah strike eagle and harrier has it too

[whole cove]

Damn that’s sad

[south gust]

Harrir

[whole cove]

I wish there was an aircraft in DCS that was a happy medium between the F-16 and F-4/F-5. Like the F-20 or F-4 AUP/ICE.

Something that can carry a good amount, with tech around the turn of the century.

[whole cove]

this shi too difficult to learn, bros

I guess I gotta wait until VTOL becomes a bit more feature rich to do what I want to do

[sturdy topaz]

I have a mission ready to go

problem is it's on Sinai

[mortal badge]

what do you guys use for camera movement?

I tried using a webcam like a poor person version of trackir but it was shit

[stone plover]

When I can remember to charge my headtracker, I use TrackIR and this--

the times I can't recall, I just have an analog hat on my flight stick for it

trackIR is far from perfect for me...but I think I'm starting to dial it in a bit more and better

[whole cove]

TrackIR pro clip, my beloved. I got it for Christmas like 10 years ago and it still works perfectly

[stone plover]

def more useful in the F-14 when I have to look down to check gauges

[stone plover]

debating on if it's viable to be high and fast in a tomcat on Contention and lob AIM-7s at folks with any success at "long" range or just be a speedy bastard at low altitudes and just sidewinder everyone

also...I need to learn to RIO

[whole cove]

Hrnnnnnng sparrows

[hushed imp]

I think down low is better, atleast considering out experience the other day

Or maybe a mid alt like 10-15k so you can do some of both

[stone plover]

yeah...the sparrow doesn't seem to have the potency for long range like the phoenix

also everything works better when you don't run out of fuel...

[hushed imp]

Yeah...

We made it back to a base though

[hushed imp]

Im using a grass monkey Sims head tracker

[stone plover]

LOL...the ONE thing that is 100% on the pilot

[hushed imp]

Idk I told you we were running out of fue

[stone plover]

wish I had recording of that moment

Engines roll back
Eman-"Did you do that?"
Bork- "I didn't do anything...did you do that"
realization hits

[hushed imp]

3d printed, but pretty cheap, us based Iirc

[stone plover]

You did indeed. I forget that as much gas as the F-14 has, she still is very thirsty.

[stone plover]

Jesus...have y'all seen this guy? I thought Chuck's guides made me feel stupid....

https://flyandwire.com/category/gaming/dcs/ordnance/

[whole cove]

Love fly and wire

[stone plover]

https://tenor.com/view/cross-eyed-austin-powers-gif-10886939

dude is out here writing DCS dissertations...

[unborn flame]

Yep Karon rocks

[abstract gulch]

must’ve taken some Tylenol

[mortal badge]

what camera are you running, i’m looking to maybe try out dcs this winter if I have more free time

I just don’t think starting in vr is gonna be feasible especially since my hotas is a little limited on key binds

[hushed imp]

at the time they had cameras too, so I have a grass monkey cam

but a diy ps3 eye cam seems to be the most common for cheap

[stone plover]

Don't let binds scare you off. As long as you can get the flight basics covered, you'll be functional. VR isn't bad if you can see the displays well enough (I cannot)

It would be nice to have a hat or thumb stick for TDC/TGP stuff... But you can probably map that to an existing hat with a modifier button.

But some folks fly with an Xbox controller

[whole cove]

https://youtu.be/Yb-PXpj0tP8?si=u2v3grYPu3qB4aRV

[toxic frost]

I know someone who won’t like that

[north ermine]

The best dogfighter in DCS is the one you enjoy the most.

('With enough thrust even a brick can fly' noises.)

[whole cove]

Buy buy buy, sale sale sale!

https://tenor.com/view/dcs-f4-wobble-gif-15887440356278607769

https://tenor.com/view/f-4-aup-formation-full-afterburner-haf-hellenic-air-force-αεροπορια-gif-4528532014769809285

[violet brook]

huh why are the burners different colors like that

is it just the fuel mixing weirdly from it banking

[whole cove]

🤷‍♂️

[whole cove]

Buy buy buy, y’all! These modules ain’t getting ANY cheaper

[stone plover]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vqYhVSjxTg

[hushed imp]

Also steam autumn sale starts in a couple days

[whole cove]

70 hours or so

[gusty pollen]

perfect timing cause I think my hornet trial is about to be up so ima nab that

[whole cove]

I might nab the Viggen, since it got the last big update last week

[south gust]

The AH-64 might be cool tbh

Once I get another SSD to dedicate to DCS lol

200+ gigs is nuts

I get that these are full fidelity aircraft, but what the hell

[stone plover]

Didn't you just get the tomcat and hornet?

[south gust]

…

Impulse control bad :(

I need to work on it

[stone plover]

LOL

not trying to piss in your cornflakes

but there will always be sales

[rugged fog]

get the kiowa

apache can be fun, the systems are cool but it largely does like 2 weapons back to back (hellfire, gun and some rockets)

kiowa is just a bit more fun to fly and is better flown solo

apache gameplay tends to be hover --> point radar ---> ripple 16 hellfires --> rtb and rearm

kiowa has the option to do a2a and some really neat flying

plus apkws (dunno if apache has it rn) and fun multi type rocket pods

and you can throw grenades out the doors, and shoot the m4

[stone plover]

here's a link to what everyone (who wanted to self report) has or wants-

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fAmXIysV6NDhLMVEN13aiByQkXBddgouxv68miaio1g/edit?gid=0

[gusty pollen]

yeah for the apache, it feels like if you already played the AH-94 a bunch then you're not missing out on much on flyin the apache in dcs

[hushed imp]

it does not

[rugged fog]

ah-94 has more to it even

[stone plover]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-gif-4410379352432318316

they can't collect on debt once you die

[rugged fog]

get the ab9 base!

150% worth

[stone plover]

@rugged fog what stick are you using with it...forgot to ask you

[rugged fog]

I got the moza one because I dont have a compatible thrust master one

you can get adapters to make vkb and winwing afaik

I prob wouldnt use vkb with it though

[stone plover]

That's what I thought as well

[whole cove]

no sales :(

[whole cove]

Notice how I have a majority of the things.
I'm a DCS whore

[whole cove]

anyone want to dicc tonigt?

[whole cove]

I think I need the dcs role again lmao

[forest flint]

what yall know about Su-47 mod

[whole cove]

DCS tomorrow night. Be there or be of the quadrilateral persuasion.

Phantom and Viper strike package

Sale, buy!

[stone plover]

I'm game to get on tonight

[whole cove]

Maybe even some Tomcot LANTIRN buddy lasing for Phantom? 😏

[whole cove]

I'm gonna grab a drink and hop on in a few

[whole cove]

off for the night

I'm starting to really dislike Jester and his inadequacy when it comes to the APQ-120

[subtle ivy]

it's a lot to use

[whole cove]

He should still be on the upper side of even player WSOs for operating the radar.

Not omniscient, but pretty good

[forest flint]

Trained and proficient in it as youd expect, but not breaking rules

[whole cove]

I guess I gotta figure out LUA to code my own Jester lmao

or get one of you poor saps to buy it and WSO for me, or fly for me while I do the Radar.

Sale until the 13th or so of Oct, and Steam Sale begins on the 29th at NOON

https://tenor.com/view/f4e-heatblur-dcs-gif-10064198335641398285

[whole cove]

https://youtu.be/L-wkI5sZjeE?si=2YGaawrLkIrzJ7gg

This dude is the goat

[north ermine]

If you're considering learning to mod the game and willing to take the much easier approach of helping me to get it to run instead of developing a whole new NPC, I will gladly take a competent pilot to backseat for. Getting very tired of not being able to play.

What the hell? I set compact install, no terrain, that used to be like 15 Gig

[subtle ivy]

If it's the F14 (I think it is) I can install and try RIOing again but I was never too good honestly

and I'd need to relearn it

oh nvm it's F-4

ignore then

I should've guessed tbh

[whole cove]

The actual installed files won't be that much.
For some reason, DCS Updates have to check EVERY file they modify to update.

[stone plover]

might actually do this for $20

[whole cove]

From what I heard, it’s horribly outdated and hasn’t been updated in a bit

[stone plover]

I have heard the same. However, it gives you some added play in servers like Contention and Grayflag. Also, LARPing as a JTAC could be neat.

@teal dune as a FYI...if you sign up via the Eagle Dynamics storefront, they have a free-trial period for every module

well...most of them

that way you can try out the Viper and Hornet to see which you like better

[teal dune]

would i have to redownload the game?
and would any DLCs function through either version of the game if i bought them on the other?

[stone plover]

so, there is the eternal question on do you go through Steam or via ED's store

you CAN transfer steam licenses to the ED store, but not the other way (I believe)

buying through ED's store gives you "Miles" which are like rewards points

and the trial period is only via the ED store

doesn't really affect anything much past that

steam normally has better download speeds with updates, but I can't recall any other gotchas

[north ermine]

It's a fresh install.

[stone plover]

also, @teal dune ...please find attached your 700 page PDF manual for your aircraft

https://chucksguides.com/

[teal dune]

i think i'll probably just stick to steam
that way if i want to transfer i can, and it's also more convenient since then everything is on steam and i dont have to do price conversions (DCS storefront appears to just be USD)

[teal dune]

useful in case i'm ever bored with a bad internet connection lol

[stone plover]

not wrong!

haven't printed them out, but certainly had it open on my phone while in the air

[whole cove]

That’ll do it then.

[north ermine]

Just annoyed that it used to be that size with all my modules, not even that long ago

2.7

[whole cove]

Dicus tonight

[north ermine]

I shall try.

somehow a plane and 3 maps is just as big as than the already disk filling base game

[rugged fog]

3 maps yeah no shit

Your downloading detailed 200mi by 200mi sections of the world

My best reccomendation is to not download marinas or marinas ww2 if your doing that

[north ermine]

Caucuses, Afghanistan, South Atlantic

Phantoms have, as far as I know, operated in all 3 theaters

[whole cove]

Caucasus I'm not sure enough, but the other two absolutely.
Iran and Britain

[north ermine]

Install is done. I will need to do some binding and you will need to be patient with my ass that hasn't touched the game since I got my new laptop, but I'll give you a backseater if you'll have me.

Bindings are done - give me a ping, I'll join in if I'm still around

[whole cove]

<@&1095016968643428422> DCS GAMERZ, We be discusiiscisciscisusing

Be there or be ⬜

[whole cove]

TTI1

[keen scroll]

Noooo I don't wanna be white

https://tenor.com/view/disintegrating-funny-thanos-gif-22399978

[whole cove]

I LOVE WALLEYES

[whole cove]

https://youtu.be/krnmdPE_xUc?si=gSrnfFdq46u7AfoK

Good news!
Some Phantom info I found and passed on to HeatBlur and their discord.

👀 1990 Manual has mentions of GBU-24/B (A/B BLU-109 Warhead) and GBU-15 (V) 1/B, and IR and TV Short chord wing.
Along with ALQ-184 (V) -1 -2 (and many others)
I (and the PhantomPhacts guy) were wrong, the High Performance tank is 600 Gallons. It's based on the F-15A/C 610 gallon tank, perhaps only 600 gallons is useful.
Also, BLU-109 (2000lb class)
GBU-10 (Mk84 and BLU Warhead)
AXQ-14 DL pod.
Mentions both Pave Spike and Tack.
GPU-5/A 30mm gunpod 😁

Source: -34-1 Page A1-6 , 1-7, and 1-8.

Pages 5-34 and 5-34 show loading applications for Pave Spike and GBU-15 TV and IR, and GBU-24.
Mentions when Pave Spike equipped, Rockets on STA5 are not to be loaded.
No mention of DSCG / DMAS restrictions on Spike.

With Pave Tack equipped, forward Sparrows STA 4/6 are not to be loaded.
the DL pod is DMAS only, obviously 😆

I don't have loadout info for F-4G atm, but it does appear that a 1993 T.O. mentions 7M, as does a 1995 T.O. for the F-4E (right about when it was retired)

Now I can no longer feel cheaty when using the M model Sparrow.
GBU-24s is pretty legit lol, up to four can be mounted under the wings.
GBU-15 is limited to DMAS and only on the inner wing pylons.

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3338016/

found this too. Some cool missions for us Rhino Drivers!

[whole cove]

I am a happy boye tonight.
Got to scratch my Phantom itch and do some research

[south gust]

DCS has an e-2 right?

can someone get me a video of it doing a controls wipeout?

these ailerons are confusing me

[hushed imp]

No? Atleast not as a module, there may be an e2 mod / ao model

[south gust]

ik theres a model in game

i think its an AI unit

[stone plover]

I def remember seeing an E-2 on the carrier deck with wings folded.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0oRHxi-tHw

[teal dune]

does DCS have something similar to the steam workshop where missions are uploaded?
and does anyone have any recommended missions for 2 beginners in hornets (preferably in the caucasus since thats the built in map)

[stone plover]

people can make missions in the files section

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/

these are normally free and can be filterable via aircraft type

I have used these kinds of maps to practice all the different weapons types

load into the slot that has the weapon you want to practice, already in the air and armed

I have no experience with any of the scripted missions unfortunately. My training was a lot of offline stuff and then going online to multiplayer PvE servers.

[teal dune]

i'll have a look through them

[teal dune]

good idea, thanks

[stone plover]

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3313187/

there we go...correct one

yeah...the tutorials can be very lacking in game

my normal process for learning a new module is;

-basic flight (startup/takeoff/landing)
-navigation
-"primary" armaments (example---I learned A/A in the Hornet before A/G as I figured I would be fighting more in the air to start)

essentially, if I could learn a weapons system a night, I'd call it a success

[whole cove]

https://youtu.be/NsReYuqnf3w?si=tuW6Zu8zyyMVh59G

wingtip Sidewinders in the fly-along 😭 makes me cringe, dutch

https://youtu.be/IhIVuH2DLL8?si=GCjqXMgL4AC5JQi7

[stone plover]

I'mma def try that.

[whole cove]

<@&1095016968643428422> DCS Gamers, any interest for tonight?

[silent yarrow]

What did you have in mind?

[whole cove]

https://youtu.be/bMcFjw54fag?si=cQw1UwVY_1RFTcmM

For my Tomcat drivers, if I'm in the back. I expect you to know all of this! 😜

[whole cove]

We gotta get a DCS night going this week

Although, ED and HB need to push this damn update

https://tenor.com/view/guy-slamming-card-on-table-gif-21126320

(Also I bought the Viggen on sale)

[whole cove]

Remember kids, the sale is almost over. You have until the 13 of October to get some deals on the ED store.

The Phantom is fun, and she’s not getting any younger

[stone plover]

would love to DICCUS if I can get my QBR mostly done tonight

[whole cove]

https://youtu.be/aFL-qGtMN6U?si=oBfdBjm2PL8TNnlG

[unborn flame]

ATFLIR

Unless you're shore larping

Then LITENING on the centerline

[whole cove]

The correct answer is “whichever one you like best, and have fun with”

The REAL correct answer is LANTIRN

[south gust]

hey joe is there any chance you can help me with the flaps on the E-2 Hawkeye?

i can't get them working sliding out and rotating down correctly

[whole cove]

In unity? You might have to add another transform and use the aero controller and rotate the one axis whilst translating the one that extends them.

[south gust]

in blender

i havent even gotten to the unity phase yet, sadly

i can show you my work so far if youre not too busy and want to help?

[whole cove]

Don’t worry about making all of the control surfaces fully articulated in Blender

It’s way easier in Unity

[south gust]

kk

[south gust]

what about landing gear? do i need to do anything in blender to get them ready for unity?

[whole cove]

Just have all the parts broken down, strut, wheel, suspension, etc.

[south gust]

kk

ty!

[whole cove]

Deecooos tn?

[whole cove]

Sale ends tomorrow, buy tonight!!!!!!!!!

[whole cove]

I wish someone would buy the C-101 so we can do some LARP

[whole cove]

I went and bought the NS430 GPS with my miles. 3D version for the C-101 and L-39 too.

[whole cove]

https://tenor.com/view/dcs-f4-wobble-gif-15887440356278607769

[whole cove]

Sale over, y'all missed out again

[icy sable]

i bought the mig29 during the sale

[forest flint]

When will they put gameplay on sake

[whole cove]

Never

[violet brook]

okay

c130 probably drops today

horray

[whole cove]

https://tenor.com/view/allegedly-supposedly-rumor-letterkenny-gif-13754683

I just want my goddamn HeatBlur patch

It was promised to me 3000 days ago

[violet brook]

nope

no c130 but uh

f14a early

[violet brook]

efb for f4

[whole cove]

<@&1095016968643428422> Buy or fly the F-4 now

[north ermine]

WE FINALLY GOIT ZUNIS WOOOOOOOOO

[forest flint]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/717498714259980378/1430962354333552741/DCS.mp4?ex=68fbaf0b&is=68fa5d8b&hm=628276bf458763a1ec4615192877be19b28578167585518e3a40fae99a3c206c&

[whole cove]

12GB is light work

[whole cove]

Not my artwork.
From King_Lion on HB discord.

[forest flint]

Could be the loading screen tbh

[whole cove]

true. I do like the one we have already tho

[whole cove]

<@&1095016968643428422> any diccus gooners for tonight?

[wind sandal]

Aw yea

Been without pedals for months now

[icy sable]

Oo nice

I have logitech pedals and they work but man do they feel like shit

theyre so loud too

[abstract gulch]

do yours click loud asf when you pass the middle of the axis?

[wind sandal]

Had those too, brakes gave out like a month after buying them

[icy sable]

Oof

Mine still goong strong

[icy sable]

yes

well not loud asf but loud

it is pretty loud if i put the tension up

[abstract gulch]

damn, bro mine are so loud they set off my discord noise gate

[icy sable]

jesus lmao

[abstract gulch]

yeah, they might need replacing

[icy sable]

mayhaps

i went overkill on everything but the pedals

[abstract gulch]

yeah same, full virpil shit but im still rockin the clackers

[icy sable]

for real lol i got full winwing

[abstract gulch]

sim pilot curse tbh

[whole cove]

Deeeeeeeeeeeeeeecoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooos

I yearn to try the new updates

[violet brook]

i had some shitty ch pedals

but i just got some turtle beach stuff

no idea if its any good but

got it for free

[whole cove]

DEEEECOOOOOOS

[stone plover]

the only flying we do now is on BF6

actually, I hate flying the jets in BF...I do need to DICCUS soon

[whole cove]

https://youtu.be/3in3NFOhTSo?si=To21NpFLFZUNEf-Z

[stone plover]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQD0bd8Ax3A

[whole cove]

deecoos

[stone plover]

I feel the need to dyckyus this weekend

[toxic frost]

any of yall know how I can setup my phone as a sort of face tracker?

[stone plover]

Not sure about phone...but I've heard of people using webcams or the old Playstation eye for doing a DIY setup.

[hushed imp]

use droidcam or similar software to use your phone as a webcam, plug that into opentrack with the neuraltracker

[stone plover]

also...looks like HOTAS manufacturers are about to start their Black Friday offers (if they do any)

seen Virpil's email so far

[hushed imp]

omg $50 off of a 600? (780CAD) base

[stone plover]

lol, right?

how generous

[hushed imp]

I'm not discounting 50 bucks, but that seems weird to be advertising that

[stone plover]

we'll see if anyone else follow suit

[forest flint]

i have decided im gonna attempt to relearn the f-16 after 6 years

[toxic frost]

i got droidcam, looking into instaling opentrack but wth is neuraltracker

[hushed imp]

in opentrack there is an input field, what it gets the tracking data from. you want to select neuralnet for webcams

[toxic frost]

okay thanks, i'll look into it

[stone plover]

I fired up the F-16 last night after not DICUSSING for a bit. Nice to get back to it but damn I lost most of the little knowledge I had.

[forest flint]

id sure love to learn the harrier or m2k

[stone plover]

https://tenor.com/view/delorean-car-back-to-the-gif-13661922

[stone plover]

I shall be DICCUS-ing tonight if anyone would like to partake.

[violet brook]

im anxiously awaiting the c130 drop

[forest flint]

wow this plane sucks even more

i remember why i dont use it

also remembering why i stoppedp laying dcs as well

[rugged fog]

huh I have heard of very few people having issues with the viper? what dont you like about it

?

[forest flint]

the everything

[gusty pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/lie-detector-gif-9388384639890532829

[real nacelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/839494041514278943/1435535917661028362/togif.gif

[rugged fog]

its like one of the simpliest jets to learn and the ui is just immaculate

the hotas is so simple

[forest flint]

the hotas is awful??

the ui is dogshit??

[rugged fog]

DED is so awesome, hotas is simple in terms of number of controls and its consistent across every page

UI in the MFDs is also really good, so good that I remember when teaching chase the f-16 he was able to start the jet and learn weapons on his own just through intuition

[rugged fog]

whats your qualm with it?

[forest flint]

tms

[rugged fog]

your nuts slime

tms is so goated

[forest flint]

the entire method of tms is DOGSHIT awful

[rugged fog]

in what way?

[forest flint]

why??? would you do that

just make it a button?

[rugged fog]

and all of a sudden you have 4 seperate buttons, one to lock, unlock, step tws and iff

like tms just makes sense, its the most intuitive thing ever

[forest flint]

no?

you just..use the same button

[rugged fog]

how do you make the same button do 4+ different functions

[forest flint]

and maybe it should just iff when it scans the target like well designed planes

[rugged fog]

I have an idea MAKE IT A 4 WAY

[forest flint]

certainly works on planes with good designed sticks

[gusty pollen]

what aircraft in dcs do you normally prefer using?

[rugged fog]

it does but the iff button allows for nctr

[forest flint]

jf-17

kiwi

[rugged fog]

performative hating

[forest flint]

plane notablty designed to be an f-16 if it wasnt awful

crazy how they realized this sucks and then made it good

[rugged fog]

which parts did they change that you like?

half the hotas is the same, and it clearly has shortfalls in many aspects

[forest flint]

making the stick function with one button, automatically iffing all contacts, functioning radar, easy flight controls

[gusty pollen]

yeah the tms aspect of the hotas is what makes viper so good

[forest flint]

then how come nothing else uses it 🤨

[rugged fog]

f-35, f-22

[forest flint]

everything designed to replaced it ditched most of the components

[rugged fog]

every post f-16 design

[gusty pollen]

irl the f-35's hotas philosophy is heavily based on the viper's

and the raptor used to use their tdc button to select targets on the radar but then transitioned over to tms up

iirc some older raptors irl still use the tdc depress but afaik most transitioned to tms lol

[rugged fog]

FTU jets are missing things combat coded ones are not

[whole cove]

Viper is based, skill issue

And this is coming from an Ex-Viper Hayter

[rugged fog]

jf-17 is the autism jet for people that want to be performatively different

[forest flint]

f-16 is missing 32 bomblet glide cbu

[rugged fog]

sd-10 and a really cool cockpit are its redeeming factors

[rugged fog]

the jsow??

[forest flint]

jsow has guided bomblets 🤨

and still no apkws (thats an ed moment tho)

[rugged fog]

oh yeah fair

still a glide cluster bomb

[forest flint]

i thought jsow was a big warhead cruise missile

[rugged fog]

not a huge difference nor is it going to sell anyone on such underperforming jet like the jeff

[rugged fog]

its a cluster

[gusty pollen]

A model is cluster, C model is a warhead

idk if C is in dcs

[rugged fog]

viper has no true cruise missiles

(in dcs)

[gusty pollen]

B model jsow had the smart clusters irl but it got cancelled

[gusty pollen]

sadly hornet W in that regard

[rugged fog]

hornet has the most unique weapons in the entire game

viper tends to be the best jet overall though, it demolishes in a2a, SEAD, and BFM

[stone plover]

Hornet also likes boat stuff

[forest flint]

am i expecting too much out of the vipers radar to lock a target at 20 miles?

or find a target at 50

[gusty pollen]

this part yeah

20 mile locks should be possible afaik but not really practical for amraam ranges in dcs at least

unless you're going hella high and fast

[keen scroll]

You should get locks out to 40-50 ish

Shot range should be 20-25nm

[rugged fog]

Yeah I get viper locks around 30

Amraam shots are pretty good at 20-25

[rugged fog]

For a2a focus on datalink for setting up engagements its very strong. Use rws sam mode for most shots

[forest flint]

yeah getting out ranged by fulcrums

[rugged fog]

They dont out stick you though

So your still better

[forest flint]

cant fire it if i cant see them

ok unless i maddog it directly into my team

[rugged fog]

You will always see them before max 120 range

Never had an issue with that

[forest flint]

cant see even f-5's at 10 miles

[rugged fog]

Low skill

Take a video

[forest flint]

i shot 1 120 and then the radar stopped working

[rugged fog]

You are the first person I have ever seen be incapable of using the simplest ff 4th gen

[forest flint]

lats time i did somehow shut off the radar after two 120's

like actually shut it off it said NO RAD i have no clue how i did that

[rugged fog]

Generational tbh

You might want to pack it up and just go back to the India jet

https://tenor.com/view/hit-on-the-head-emoji-bat-gif-15059031914441491340

[forest flint]

maybe i will do a2g 🤔

[real nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/pallav-special-hand-on-shoulder-trust-me-bro-gif-3399983935144461786

[keen scroll]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1271943510311960577/1379177760613994616/attachment.gif

[violet brook]

i think you outta just join us folk in the c130 when it comes out 😭

[forest flint]

Plane 👎

[forest flint]

is this just my server or has selecting your loadout and a hot start before you spawn been removed?

what am i doing wrong

relaly just banging my head against the wall here

[naive osprey]

@keen scroll local f-16 expert help this man

[forest flint]

and why does dogfight mode turn off the radar that seems suboptimal

[keen scroll]

Target outside the vertical scan

[keen scroll]

It does not if you have a lock. If you don't, TMS lets you pick an ACM mode

[keen scroll]

Second one you are wayyy to close for anything but ACM

[forest flint]

why does the radar not work if youre too close

[keen scroll]

Because of the way triangles work

At 10 miles your vertical scan will be 1/4 of what it is at 40

Move the cursor up and down your scope and watch the numbers, you'll see what I mean

(those numbers that the contact in the first video was decidedly not inside of)

[stone plover]

datalink shows target at 30k and scan azimuth is between 28k and -9k (the ground)

I'm re-familiarizing myself with the Viper and I can def agree there are some aspects that seem to be a little interesting or odd when compared to the Hornet. I REALLY miss having the AZ/EL page.

but I also might suck and not know where it lives

[keen scroll]

Viper doesn't have AZ/EL

Workflow should be

1. move cursor to target
2. adjust elevation
3. TMS Up

[rugged fog]

Literally true of anything simulated in dcs, what i find interesting is that you imply proficiency in the jf17, which also uses the same elevation indications the viper does but you fail to apply it

Your also doing a full azimuth scan while trying to sort a specific target... this is like baby mode radar use that applies to every module, nothing viper specific

[forest flint]

I was misreading the elevation as ranges

Maybe i should play something im familiar with bc i havent touched dcs in like a yewar

[keen scroll]

The solution is to RTFM

[stone plover]

https://chucksguides.com/aircraft/dcs/f-16cm/

[stone plover]

Range is more of a visual cue based on position and scan distance until you get a lock. I'd call that 38ish miles maybe based on where it is in your FCR screen.

[stone plover]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg7wRzHl2-c

[whole cove]

<@&1095016968643428422> BUY NOW BUY NOW

[violet brook]

are you a corporate shill for ED or something man

[whole cove]

nope, I just want more people to buy and fly things that I like

[south gust]

the Infection

[forest flint]

dcs is just not letting me rebind things

[woeful atlas]

Is it detecting your hotas?

[rugged fog]

Your 100% doing something wrong, take a video

[forest flint]

Yeah all the buttons that are defaulted work

I know how to rebind buttons in dcs bro im not doing something wrong

[rugged fog]

Take a video slime

[forest flint]

what are you wanting to see the keybinds menu??

[whole cove]

Some things require being unbound first to rebind

[forest flint]

theres nothing bound at it to them

[rugged fog]

Considering this isnt some common issue or known bug its the best route to figure what is wrong with your situation

A phone cam video would be better tbh

[whole cove]

At this point, a show of both your screen and HOTAS with what you’re trying to bind would be a big help

[keen scroll]

After the radar altitude saga user error seems plausible

[whole cove]

The main reason I want people to buy things (Phantom, Tomcat, Tiger, etc) is because I want to share history with everyone. I want people to be knowledgeable about the past and how fun it is to be a part of it

[rugged fog]

You should make a fighter jet history YouTube or TikTok or something

[whole cove]

I want to do a podcast on YouTube or “fly-n-chats” on DCS where I fly around and discuss military and aviation history. There’s a few channels like that already, so I wouldn’t really be all that original.

[tranquil breach]

Boys I finally learned to aar in the hornet

actually so hyped

[abstract gulch]

https://youtu.be/rJtW6fvTVHg

[whole cove]

It looks neat, but I don’t want to install another product to do so.
He needs to talk to ED about implementing it in the base game

[whole cove]

https://youtu.be/l6rUtYnzJsc?si=Jtkr0taLcbihb5m6

[stone plover]

looks like Winwing is following suit-

[whole cove]

DCS Sale ends on the 27th. Buy buy buy

[whole cove]

https://youtu.be/0EE8X5JxAHI?si=HvXMnl8MplgGXsq7
Here's a tutorial for my new prospective WSOs.

Hint hint

[whole cove]

https://youtu.be/7DSDmAP9Eic?si=Ntsik63dpJUm1dO2

[whole cove]

https://youtu.be/CK-gaIUW0Co?si=C6X17IEb6_5YxWCI
hint hint

[weary pawn]

maybe 130 drop this weekend?

[whole cove]

I hate the idea of trying to find an actual Phantom Squadron to join to fly. You mfs need to buy the goddamn thing so I can fly with people I like

[whole cove]

I bought the C-130. I hope it doesn't bite me in the ass

According to an ASC dev, Friday release is possible

[hushed imp]

I'm probably going to grab it round christmas time

[woeful atlas]

Very likely

[whole cove]

Remember kids, the sale ends tomorrow

[woeful atlas]

Might even be today perhaps

[violet brook]

https://youtu.be/o_to3uVRigs

so much whimsy in a trailer

i love it

[gusty pollen]

this is hands down the best launch trailer ever made for a dcs module

[hushed imp]

This trailer is fuckin awesome

[violet brook]

absolutely

[stone plover]

Fuck...I'm probably gonna need a yoke now

[violet brook]

ayyeeee join us

thank you to my uncle again for giving me his entire turtle beach yoke set 🙏

[hushed imp]

I will be there to be an escort in a fighter

[stone plover]

Mayhaps tonight...I be cooking

[violet brook]

i wish I could but I got work at 6am tomorrow

[whole cove]

Day one consensus, it’s mandatory to have two people in the Herc cockpit

You can do everything switching between seats and stuff, but man it’s a lot

The checklist system is nice, and the loading system is cool

https://tenor.com/view/eddie-murphy-nutty-hercules-clapping-hands-gif-12414563

[rugged fog]

Bro gotta open on blackfriday

Rough

[violet brook]

yeup

6am to 3pm 💔💔

same time i wake up for school and i usually take a short run before I get ready for school

[woeful atlas]

Yeah this weekend grayflag is gonna be full

[weary pawn]

the C-130 has built in ray-tracing too 🤑

I don't know of any other module that has it off the top of my head

[whole cove]

It’s a first for DCS.

[forest flint]

How does raytracing on a specific module work

[rugged fog]

its done offboard in vulkan and then piped back in, presumably in screen space

maybe a very similar process to how reshade workes but proprietary and bespoke

[forest flint]

What is it raytracing

[naive osprey]

TL;DR very good reflections

[forest flint]

Ou

[stone plover]

https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-nvidia-ge-force-rtx-rtx-on-gif-21180788

[whole cove]

https://youtu.be/6s93EFjGIKQ?si=bnmQPYcab4WYQdDm
Quite the fun aircraft, even the free one that comes with DCS.
It's a bit of a bear to takeoff though!

[teal dune]

has anyone else had an issue with DCS where they launch the game, get to the splash screen, and then get this error?

[woeful atlas]

Did you try rapairing the fiels

Also try turning off some graphic settings it looks like that could be the issue

[teal dune]

if by that you mean the steam verify integrity thing then yes

[teal dune]

is there a way i can access graphics settings before starting the game?

[woeful atlas]

Yeah the launcher. Do you get it on steam?

[teal dune]

i don't even reach the launcher
i just press play on steam, get to splash screen and then error

this is as far as i can get

[woeful atlas]

Yeah thats not the launcher ig steam does it from the start id suggest getting the standalone dcs

Its better anyway

And you dont need to re download it

[teal dune]

steam should have access to the launcher unless i set it to not show up in the launch options
plus i'm not sure if the standalone would work since i'm on linux and running this one through a steam compatibility thing
it's possible this is a linux error but given it only started happening recently i was wondering if it was an error others had had

[woeful atlas]

Oooh ok interesting

Hmm maybe post it in the dcs help text channel

The mods ussually do help pretty quickly

[hushed imp]

This 100% looks like a Linux issue

[teal dune]

okay i've managed to fix this (mremannn was right, it was a linux issue)
on the off-chance anyone else gets this issue, the solution was to set my proton version to GE-proton10-17 and delete my DCS compatdata folder, then launch the game

[violet brook]

will be installing DCS on my steam deck and using this fix

[teal dune]

i think there's some launch options you might have to set too
i've currently got these ones but idk if they're all necessary
WINE_SIMULATE_WRITECOPY=1 WINEDLLOVERRIDES='wbemprox=n' %command%

[violet brook]

appreciated for anyone else who might use linux but i do not fancy turning my steam deck into an IED

[woeful atlas]

Dcs on a steam deck is crazy

Id hate to be in a dpgfight and a mfker ina steam deck kills me

[violet brook]

id sell my hotas at that point

[woeful atlas]

Ong

[forest flint]

from when i looked into it it does NOT run

especially muyltiplayer

[whole cove]

You guys know where to find me

[radiant pivot]

Banger quote from Monica Lewinsky himself

[forest flint]

Gone again 😭

[stone plover]

https://tenor.com/view/infinity-war-avengers-death-cjb1967-gif-18666703

[weary pawn]

fuh my stupid herk life

[keen scroll]

We didn't show enough passion and support

[gusty pollen]

nah he shrimply sucked too many pp's

578 to be exact

[forest flint]

how do you adjust a irl hotas so that the afterburner detent matches in game

[hushed imp]

Curves in dcs

[forest flint]

fixed it now ty

[forest flint]

friend in f-14 asked me what datalink im on 😭

[woeful atlas]

Same vibe

[forest flint]

Ok now that i use my hotas again i want something better than the tflight x

Within $500 total

Thinking double VKB Gladiayor

[stone plover]

I thought the T16000 was totally fine and a solid upgrade to the T-Flight.

oh, you're talking about jumping tiers

[forest flint]

Yeah i can go way higher than that

Double Glads seems to be exactly what im looking for

Do i need 2 usb ports?

[stone plover]

I would imagine. Each control usually needs it's own.

Time to invest in a powered USB hub.

[forest flint]

I dont got the space on my desk for that mane

[stone plover]

I know whenever I want to fly, I need to plug in 6x USBs

[forest flint]

Wtf

[stone plover]

Mount it under the desk

[forest flint]

Folding table

[stone plover]

that too

[forest flint]

No 😭

[stone plover]

but yeah...if you go down this road, you are gonna need one sooner or later

[forest flint]

I in fact will not

There is nothing more for me to get than a throttle and stick

[stone plover]

Rudders?

[forest flint]

No

[stone plover]

MFDs?

[forest flint]

FUCK no

[stone plover]

lol

[forest flint]

Mfds for all the Su-25A and F-5E flying im doing ofc

[stone plover]

all the MFDs

but yeah...I've heard from the folks here that they like the VKB stuff

just double check the tarrif situation if you are US based

[forest flint]

totals to just under $300

i have ordered

[violet brook]

aw nvm

i was gonna say possibly look into mozas stuff

they have a pretty nice throttle at 200

[forest flint]

might by the mf1 next sale 🤔

[tranquil breach]

i've also heard good things about the stecs, seems to fit your budget with the gladiator

oh nvm i just saw that you ordered

[forest flint]

the double stick setup is big consideration

[violet brook]

nah get the c130 trust

[forest flint]

i dont wanna fly a cargo plane mane 😭

i have star citizen for that

[violet brook]

yeah but 3 player multicrew is pretty funny

[forest flint]

refer to previous

pictured

[stone plover]

RTX on

[violet brook]

anyone pick up the c130 yet?

[stone plover]

It's on my radar, but not yet. Seems like it needs a bit of work on the MP side

Also noticed that taxiing past the C130 spawn (fat camp) at Sochii with 2 or 3 of them absolutely tanks my FPS

[weary pawn]

I have its a great module. Very indepth and has alot of to learn and fly from it

[violet brook]

interesting

[violet brook]

def thinking about grabbing it

wanna have people to fly it with especially

seems like considerably more enjoyable with a copilot

[weary pawn]

I can confirm that, I've had a blast co-piloting for @orchid dew

There is a decent bit of desync issues on launch, but it doesn't inhibit operations for the most part

Just some features like CARP or IPRA should be done by the host aircraft to ensure its plugged in properly

[orchid dew]

It is 100% super enjoyable with a co-pilot

Flying alone is also really fun imo, but it's my favourite heavy aircraft so that probably helps it

There are a bunch of super neat features that aren't in any other aircraft

The raytracing in the cockpit is also awesome, makes the cockpit feel super alive

I'll spare you the yap session I'm basically a C-130 advertisment lol

It is absolutely a blast flying with a co-pilot though, some of the most fun I have ever had in DCS

[violet brook]

peak

itll probably be my next grab

that and the mig29 maybe

[orchid dew]

Hell yeah!

[violet brook]

anyone have the mig29 and can comment on that?

the FF one

[stone plover]

I can't wait for another mutlicrew plane, so it's def on the list once the bugs get ironed out.

Also, it'll give servers more time to rework or implement the logistics system.

[rugged fog]

Nothing bad about it if your expectations are realistic, grab it if you are interested in learning soviet style stuff

[violet brook]

tbf all im going in with is limited f16 experience, flaming cliffs 3, and a desire to play something cold war era that doesnt have MFD spam in the cockpit

so id figure i could probably enjoy it

[rugged fog]

Its cool, pretty simple to learn everything, but even against fc3 it will fight an uphill battle let alone 16s and 18s with datalink on something like contention

[violet brook]

the lion does not concern herself with modern pvp servers

its between the mig29 and viggen for me

completely different roles

[rugged fog]

Contention is cold war pvp

[violet brook]

oh

[teal dune]

I'm thinking of getting the viggen once I've learnt the game somewhat

[violet brook]

based

i do think the viggen would be a more attractive option if i knew i would actually have someone to fly it with

@atomic willow 🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕