DCS

[whole cove]

https://youtu.be/kgpGO7fj4oU?si=CZZE6SLAP9ZgxWZI

Speaking of sales and the F-4, the Easter Sale should be (maybe) in a couple weeks.

😁

[abstract gulch]

brakes, check ok
fuel, normal feed, autotransferdump off, total 20,000, wings 3600, bingo 4000
canopy closed, locks engaged, strips aligned, handle in closed position
seat armed top and bottom, pilot/rio (as required) in window, strapped in six ways
Stab aug, all on
ATLS, on
Master test switch, off
BiDi, norm
Compass synced, standby erect, altimeter set (as required)
Wings 20 auto both lights out
flaps and slats as required indicated and visual
spoiler module on, spoiler brake selected
Trim, 0 0 0
Harness locked
Brakes run up
Control wipeout fore aft left right boot left boot right
Good engines hyds oil pressure
no lights
brakes off mil

aren’t checklists fun im gonna go pass the fuc out now I can’t type holy shit

[whole cove]

@hushed imp reference chklist

[whole cove]

ty pookie, gn

[abstract gulch]

pookie is fukin crazy ngl

[abstract gulch]

dats a pretty sgit reference I’ll explain it better sometime im dying rn

[whole cove]

https://youtu.be/Is3AtOX-abw?si=PFmuuxjYTMQQmxNT

I finally understand CMP/PLT vs TGT

https://youtu.be/1W5IwsHfMog?si=Ks0gkdo0Im4ypBki
For INS stuff and a quick startup from the RIO pit

[forest flint]

Im thinkibg about getting a trackir too

Oh

Ok discord

I thoughg this was most recent

[violet brook]

lol

but yeah

[violet brook]

i mean ive heard from like everyone here not to get a trackir but get like

one from a different considerably cheaper brand

becuase its literally just the same thing

[forest flint]

interesting

[violet brook]

hmmm what modules would i get

theres not a sale rn so maybe hold off

trial gaming

[deft lodge]

I needa join you guys, I miss flying the Hornet

[whole cove]

We gonna try to hop back on tonite?

[violet brook]

i could try

webcam headtracking jank

thumbsupcat

[stone plover]

I know the track clip pro is widely considered overpriced. I'm still super happy with my dude off etsy's version.

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1173950727/irtrackstar-rs-ultralight?ref=yr_purchases

[whole cove]

I will die on the hill that TrackIR, if you buy it officially and straight from the source, is the best investment you can have for flatscreen DCS or other sims

[steep apex]

Curious why you specific officially from the source

[whole cove]

Like, the brand, not from the website itself

[steep apex]

I got one of those knock off tracknps and it works fine

its the same hardware its just someone skimming parts from the factory or some shit

[naive osprey]

I don't play DCS anymore, but I built mine for like $10

a ps3 eye cam
and some IR leds + some printed parts

[steep apex]

and it was like half the price of buying a trackir "officially"

[whole cove]

🤷‍♂️ I feel like OEM has the best quality.

[steep apex]

im sure it does but its an ir camera and some reflective tape, feels hard to fuck up

[whole cove]

Whatever

[naive osprey]

I'm sure it does and also together with the development time it took

but you CAN do it for super cheap

[steep apex]

shrug I was just wonderinf if that's what you meant tbh

I cant say I would advocate for buying cheap knockoffs regularly or anything but for something like that which seems unlikely to fail, it seemed worth the risk

its certainly a big upgrade over face tracking thats for sure

that shit was infuriating

tho vr has been real nice, im glad it runs decently for me

[violet brook]

see this is the thing

id love to do vr

and im sure my computer is plenty capable

I just cannot get it to run properly for the life of me

im sure it would be wonderful if there was an actually good way to do wired PCVR on quest

[hushed imp]

dont you want to spend a shit ton of money on a pimax just to play dcs?

[violet brook]

tempting

pico 4 has wired support for virtual desktop

whar

id love to just keep my quest 3 especially now that I have lens inserts for them

I just wish quest link like

worked better

[whole cove]

https://youtu.be/YvGKKUr4WJU?si=wle0RJecqZqDUVQo

[abstract gulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1355774753037877288/1355774862978973757/9p42h9.gif

[whole cove]

The power of the sun

[abstract gulch]

woe be upon thee

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1355774753037877288/1355774865193570436/9p42vu.gif

afterburners under night vision

[whole cove]

Anyone up for some Diccusing?

[abstract gulch]

i could be of the convincing

[whole cove]

Maybe tomorrow

[whole cove]

I got a free day all day p much, so we might be able to hop on

I want to get some back seat time

I just rewatched Top Gun and Maverick today, so I feel the need, for speed

[stone plover]

How do I have the "Danger Zone" role and you don't?

[whole cove]

You were around longer than I have been

That role hasn't been given out in years

[stone plover]

Jesus...didn't think I'd been around that long.

How long ago was the EF-24 released?

about 15 months

[whole cove]

Long enough haha

[silent yarrow]

Wait, what is the “Danger Zone” role for?

[stone plover]

Figuring it was for something Top Gun related

[whole cove]

There's a Wild Weasel role too?

I'm THE Phantom guy, why don't I have it?

[stone plover]

LOL...and the boomer role

[real nacelle]

We made it for the op joe I told you to play it😔

[whole cove]

Weekends are always my busy time

OPs are just, the same old thing to me now. Unless VTOL gets a wicked update, its boring. Sorry...

[real nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/look-at-the-flowers-twd-carl-sad-gif-13413320

[whole cove]

If freedom would ever allow PLT/RIO in the F-24D, I'd think about it, but noooooooooooo

[whole cove]

https://youtu.be/Ujk4hL_EnUc?si=-urWh9Pbs0yUOlzh

[whole cove]

<@&1095016968643428422> Are we looking to set up a time tonight?

[violet brook]

errr

after like

9:30ish EST i should be able to get on

i have a small shift at work today

[abstract gulch]

may of the haps

i could be convinced

i just wanna do carrier ops tonight

[whole cove]

I suck at Carrier Ops

always end up too slow and low

1 wire champ over here

[abstract gulch]

moar powaaaaah

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1127679062303842315/1348140499613122630/9mqtek.gif

[stone plover]

https://tenor.com/view/always-sunny-its-in-philadelphia-gif-9800999

[abstract gulch]

yeah tbh couldn't be me

[stone plover]

oh, I'm no better than Joe

but any excuse to use that Sunny gif...

[abstract gulch]

(little note against myself this trap was a 2 wire)

usually i get 2s and 3s, i dont get 1s anymore for the most part

[whole cove]

Sees beautiful approach
Looks inside

2 Wire, still good.
Profit???

[abstract gulch]

well i drifted low in the burble, need to get better at managing the burble

gotta admit my faults to get better y'know?

[sturdy topaz]

simple solution really

https://tenor.com/view/su-33-su33-jet-aircraft-carrier-admiral-kuznetsov-gif-3774266480462294751

-# don't do russian naval ops they kinda stink

[abstract gulch]

mfw USN procedures but literally just scaled up by like 2x

[hushed imp]

Maybe

[hushed imp]

I suck at them right now but would be willinf to get better

[hushed imp]

Would be learning in the hornet though, don't really want to try trapping in the kitty

[abstract gulch]

coward

once you have a basic understanding of how the tomcats aerodynamics change both are pretty trivial tbh

hornet is much easier tho

[harsh notch]

Im down tonight but will be piss drunk so if you are looking for realism, it wont be with me 🤣

[ruby pendant]

If we are not looking for realism i could hop in as well lol

[whole cove]

If we just wanna fuck around tonight, I might be around.

[abstract gulch]

if we dont fly from the boat i might try my hand at some iron bombing in the F-4

[whole cove]

what server y'all thinkin?

[abstract gulch]

depends on what we wanna do

[unborn flame]

ill hop on

[abstract gulch]

if we're just goofing around i wouldn't mind hopping on HTS, or something simple, especially if im screwing around with the F-4

or maybe some pattern work in the 14

on the other hand

if we take it seriously i wanna do some longer flights on TTI or something, but god i dont wanna fly on cauc anymore :<

[whole cove]

prob with that is not everyone has other maps

I, of course, have almost all of them lmfao

[abstract gulch]

eh i've got syria we're all that matters here

for legal reasons thats a joke

i just hate Caucuses at this point, its just bad to me

[whole cove]

I just wish it wasn't the default map

[unborn flame]

Marianas

[whole cove]

I wish NTTR included Fallon, North Island, and the ocean

[abstract gulch]

gimme a Socal map smh my head

[whole cove]

Just expand NTTR for free.99

[abstract gulch]

true..

[whole cove]

Give us everything southwest of Fallon to Baja

Edwards

💦

[abstract gulch]

Virginia map when?

[whole cove]

God I wish

[unborn flame]

true

Oceana

[abstract gulch]

Miramar.. 🥺

[unborn flame]

Langley

PAX 👉 👈

[abstract gulch]

dude i wanna do low level over the Los Angeles metro so i can imagine all the people freaking out on twitter about the sonic booms

[whole cove]

hopping on in 2

[sturdy topaz]

why would you send the imperial units one

[whole cove]

Because Imperial units are better

[whole cove]

Thanks for the Dicus peeps. Fun to WSO ( We didn't do much)

Got a busy day tmrw, probably no diccus

[abstract gulch]

i almost over g'd the second tomcat as well

[whole cove]

Do you guys keep a mission log or something? I heard you say something about writing down what happened during the sortie

[abstract gulch]

homunculus

[abstract gulch]

fleet maintenance because autism

[whole cove]

Man. I wish I had a custom phantom livery that I could keep track of

Damn HeatBlur for not releasing the goddamn paint kit

I wish more people flew the Phantom in here too…

Tomcat is fun too because multi crew, but Phantom fun because Manual

[whole cove]

I probably won’t be on for the next couple days. I gotta find more people to play multixrew DCS with.

[abstract gulch]

https://youtu.be/-SnZ2RP8YuE?si=ZBJloVGnc333Good

[round oasis]

When this mod is out

my idea of making a training server on DCS would make more sense

[whole cove]

Anyone up Digitaling they Combat Simulator

[harsh notch]

maaaybe

[whole cove]

I’m on Hoggy Training if anyone wants to mess around

[whole cove]

hopped off

sorry, I had a long day, not feeling up to late night VC

maybe tomorrow

VC earlier killed my vibe when I heard someone talking about getting unsolicited nudes

[abstract gulch]

fucking what?

[harsh notch]

tf

who here getting nudes

[whole cove]

whoever that new guy is

[harsh notch]

If it originated here then thats fucked up

[whole cove]

said back in old CAW they got unsol nudes from someone

[harsh notch]

yeah thats messed up

[whole cove]

like, before any of us

[harsh notch]

anyways, sorry you having a bad night man. Hopefully it gets a bit better.

[abstract gulch]

yeah thats no fun, have a good night joe

[stone plover]

https://tenor.com/view/nandor-fucking-guy-wwdits-what-we-do-in-the-shadows-kayvan-novak-gif-17823817

[whole cove]

we gonna get our dicc wet tonite? we gonna biggus diccus in thi tonite?

that sounded better in my head

[sturdy topaz]

I could theoretically join today, though i haven't flown anything in a hot minute

[abstract gulch]

tombat time?

mayhaps

a phanom?

[harsh notch]

I just wanna get a list of people who say yes 🙃

[whole cove]

what does mx canx'ed mean

[harsh notch]

maintenance cancelled

[whole cove]

aaaaahh

[harsh notch]

unable to fly

[hushed imp]

I might be availible

Been busier recently

[keen scroll]

I'll be there

[whole cove]

What time we thinking

[abstract gulch]

when ever for me, got nothing going on tonight

[harsh notch]

Im ready soon so just let me know

[whole cove]

https://youtu.be/UN7yX-1LmVo?si=UK2SmGh86TMVjVV9
I can't wait for the B(U) so we can sling JDAMs

[abstract gulch]

JDAM, more like JBAM!

tehe

[harsh notch]

So, Diccus?

@keen scroll @sturdy topaz @abstract gulch @whole cove

[keen scroll]

Too late for me now

[abstract gulch]

kinda just waiting for someone to pull me away

watching old 70s A-6 footage rn

[whole cove]

vc2 perhcnace?

[harsh notch]

sure

ill jump down there

[abstract gulch]

perhamps

[whole cove]

Well tonight was fun, kinda. Minus me burying two Phantoms and uhhh, yeah.
I gotta get some backseat time in the F-14 again.

At some point we gotta do some Link 4C shi and get on that DL grindset

https://youtu.be/KWsd5muVWxc?si=luwbhQ1rNH56yM-x

Me when combined 400 mile range of the AWG-9

[gusty pollen]

Razbam changed their server icon to this

[harsh notch]

Naaaah, i've only almost shot down a friendly 2-3 times but havent done it yet...

No need for being able to indentify others.

[violet brook]

alright lads

my paycheck has arived and!

its way lower than i thought fuck taxes

my taxes got inflated to fuck ass somewhere

anyway

ill probably buy a headtracker

but after than i can fit like

one module into my budget maybe

im thinking map is the smartest idea

[gusty pollen]

higher rez

[forest flint]

Oooo cryptic bullshit oooooo

[round oasis]

Razbam...

[whole cove]

If we had enough people who had the Tomcat we could do a full four ship

[stone plover]

https://tenor.com/view/many-choices-cant-decide-decide-what-to-choose-gif-15668488

Did y'all end up doing carrier ops the other night?

[whole cove]

Nope

[abstract gulch]

no, still waiting on that, might hop on later tonight for some pattern work

[stone plover]

I'd be down tonight for some.

[whole cove]

I need some practice, sure

As much as the Hornet is a great platform, it sucks to land on the boat haha

Tomcat Supremacy

[stone plover]

I love my hornet. I know it best...however (as I told Krieger) it doesn't "feel" like a fighter jet to me.

[abstract gulch]

funnily enough I’ve found my enormous backlog of Tomcat traps actually made my Hornet traps pretty easy to pick up

[stone plover]

Feels more like a sporty hatchback than an actual track/race car.

[whole cove]

The Tomcat compared to the Hornet is like a dragster versus track car

One turns, the other just goes straight and fast

[stone plover]

oh, I meant in comparison to the viper

yeah...I can only imagine the gato is a fucking rocketship

also been seeing more and more of Nuclear Option updates making me want to dip back in...any of the diccus folks also nuclear option-ing?

[whole cove]

I tried it. The damage model is a bit wacky, and the targeting is weird too

[abstract gulch]

i mean, you slow the 14 down a little bit and that thing will turn

the Hornet has great nose authority but not amazing energy retention, but the F-14 has an amazing sustained turn rate and solid nose authority for how it’s built

[whole cove]

As long as you stay on the rudders haha

[keen scroll]

Yeah I play it regularly

[whole cove]

I'm in VC2 if anyone wants to do anything. I'm probably going to look for a Marianas server. Tired of Cauc

[abstract gulch]

was about to join, finishing my burrito rn

[whole cove]

4YA Trng 3 I think? Whichever is Marinara and has like 10 ppl on

[violet brook]

i would be

so down

if i had the f14

ive wanted the f14 for a bit i just

never splruged

[whole cove]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-mr-krabs-angry-choke-shake-gif-21866480

[hushed imp]

purchase it

make bad financial desicions

[violet brook]

but but

i need a head tracker

[stone plover]

Sorry... Boss needs help getting ready for a QBR and call with the CEO so I've been covered up. Would rather be diccusing.

[whole cove]

Dw about it broham

Red and I are holding down the fort

[whole cove]

thx 4 the diccus, y'all

cya tmrw

Me when I land with 200lbs of fuel remaining

But managed to bag an AI jeff

F-16 chads unite!

[violet brook]

boys!

its on its way

[forest flint]

Just bought a delanclip myself

[violet brook]

🤝

now time to wait for a sale

(like 2 weeks)

rn i have f16 but honestly im not all that crazy about modern dcs

wanna grab a cold war plane so probably f14

especially since f4 wont go on sale

[forest flint]

open track with webcam is just a bit too jittery and such for me

[whole cove]

The F-4 should go on sale for Easter

[violet brook]

but also

no trial :(

so i cant be sure if ill like it or not

i have trialed the f14 before and will again since its been over 6 months

[whole cove]

It’s super easy to start and fly. Hard to master. (Even I crash it sometimes lmfao)

[violet brook]

also is easter sale like

normal thing that happens

[whole cove]

Maybe. I heard it might happen again this year, but maybe not

You can always check during a steam sale and transfer your licenses

[tranquil breach]

What’s everyone’s take on the razbam announcement

[whole cove]

Haven’t seen it

[gusty pollen]

@every1 (automod)
To Our Loyal Community,

First and foremost — we’re sorry..we tried relentlessly

You’ve been our champions from day one. Your enthusiasm, trust, and support have helped our small team grow into something we never imagined. You didn’t just buy our modules — you believed in us. And for that, we’re deeply grateful.

But there’s something we need to say clearly:
While you’ve continued to support our work, we haven’t received a single dime of that support in well over a year.
You deserve to know that.

We’ve spent the past months locked in long, good-faith discussions with Eagle Dynamics in the hope of resolving this situation professionally — and being fairly compensated for the products you’ve embraced.

We remain hopeful.
But we cannot continue to support the platform or maintain our modules without being paid.
This is not sustainable. We are creators — but we are also people with families, obligations, and limits. We cannot be asked to work for free.

It’s not just unfair — it’s wrong.

This is also business. And in business, transparency matters. We continue to work toward a resolution. We still hope this is just a pause — a rough chapter — before we fly again with you in DCS and beyond.

Until then, know this:

We’re still here.

We still care.

And we’re still fighting to protect what we built — with you.


Thank you for standing with us through this.
We’re users, just like you. We feel this deeply.

Loyally yours,
RAZBAM Simulations

Basically, not much has changed

[whole cove]

Christ Almighty… ED just needs to take the L

[abstract gulch]

they do.. but then how would Nick Gray afford more warbirds you see?

therefore this is all justified trust

all jokes aside this whole situation is just so fucking stupid, ED needs to get their high horse taken out from under them

[whole cove]

Any of you <@&1095016968643428422> DCS guys want an invite to my server, DM me. I don’t want to post the link here

[abstract gulch]

personally it doesn’t effect me a whole lot since I never flew any Razbam jets, but I know a bunch of guys who love the F-15E to death and it just sucks because the 15E is such an incredible labor of love second only to the F-4E and far surpassing anything ED has put out

[whole cove]

Fr

[abstract gulch]

the F-16CM for example has a multitude of missing or broken systems, the Hornet does too, both have been out for years, and Razbam and HB both individually have put out nearly feature complete (if a little buggy) modules with little to no issue

the only reason the F-15E isnt feature complete right now is because Razbam got shafted

[whole cove]

Well, if you call it “early access” you are allowed to be missing / errored features

[naive osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l98ILtrztbA&ab_channel=FatBird
criminally underwatched video

[abstract gulch]

even then it’s still fully functional for 99% of use cases

meanwhile the Viper released initially without an ACM gun funnel or pipper.

[abstract gulch]

well even then there’s a level of care that ED has, in my opinion at least, failed to show for years now

sorry im not gonna go on a rant rn but there’s a reason im refusing to buy DCS modules made by ED

[abstract gulch]

hell ye

[sturdy topaz]

[abstract gulch]

yes hi there

[harsh notch]

I'll take one

[abstract gulch]

what would of the be happening in said snerver?

[whole cove]

A quieter, more hangout-chill focused server. I originally made it to host VTOL or DCS missions and just hang out and share airplane stuff, including my Blender/FlyOut designs, stories and writing, etc

[abstract gulch]

hmmm

ill consider, if you let me practice F-14 DEMO over and over again..

;>

[violet brook]

this plane makes me very VERY erect

[round oasis]

Could i get invited?

[whole cove]

you gotta turn on messages from server

[round oasis]

No need

just send it and i will get it

[whole cove]

Ah, it says you only accept messages from friends

[abstract gulch]

https://youtu.be/zTfk1kZapPw?si=pcUWhOT17WGnFtFY

[deft lodge]

@whole cove lemme get a server invite pls

[whole cove]

DM'd

[silent yarrow]

the <@&1095016968643428422> cometh!

[harsh notch]

https://tenor.com/view/forrest-gump-tom-hanks-run-running-on-my-way-gif-9305363

[abstract gulch]

i would love too but my dad and i are gonna watch el camino later and i dont wanna get busy sorgy

[silent yarrow]

https://discord.gg/gdHFwEep

[sturdy topaz]

I'm at a Buc-ee's lmao

[whole cove]

There’s some storms in the area. Got the PC unplugged

[unborn flame]

ooo

[whole cove]

Still storms, plus the folks went to bed early tonight.

Sorry y’all

[unborn rock]

So more drama with razbam, huh?

[forest flint]

dropped a gbu-10 and it instantly exploded as soon as it was released

epic

[harsh notch]

Nah, they nailed the realism, there is always a small chance it happens.

its supposed to be less than a percent chance but its there and its known

[forest flint]

bro what

you have to be fucking with me

[abstract gulch]

i had a GBU-32 randomly explode mid air about halfway to the ground once

[harsh notch]

Im talking irl, doubt dcs is supposed to model it

but yeah, its a known thing that they might explode right after the arming pin is pulled or hard wire is disconnected. Its just supposed to be a very small chance.

[gusty pollen]

#544501300134543380 message

Razbam modules are no longer purchasable for DCS

It's truly joever 😔

[round oasis]

F-15E Ghost

[whole cove]

I think I’m gonna try and get my money back for the M2K

I only flew it twice

What a sad display

[forest flint]

And just when i was gonna get the harrier

[whole cove]

I’ve always wanted the Harrier

[forest flint]

A-4 is too old for me, F/A-18 is too annoying, F-14 is too cring, A-6 isnt a thing yet

Harrier was what i needed :((

[hushed imp]

How is the 14 cring?

I think you just alerted the hoard

[forest flint]

Second cringest aircrsft

[hushed imp]

How?

Is it because top gun?

[forest flint]

Everything about it

[hushed imp]

???

[forest flint]

No completely unrelated to the movie

It was cool there

And other heatblur trailers

[hushed imp]

One of the First 4th gen aircraft

Modern but dated systems

What's not to like

[forest flint]

First 4th gen aircraft, modern but dated systems, flight performance, systems usage, real world usage

[whole cove]

Bro the F-14 is like the third most fun Aircraft after the Viper and Phantom

[hushed imp]

It's more fun than the viper

Don't get me wrong, the viper is fun, I just don't like doing a2g in it

[forest flint]

God why is a2g setup in the viper like that 😭

[whole cove]

It’s a good LG bomber

But the Viper’s deal is fighting and SEAD

[hushed imp]

Ig, tbf I dont generally fly the viper in a group, so I bring a more diverse loadout

[forest flint]

Does this make jeff the only fixed wing with laser rockets now

[hushed imp]

I find the tgp in the viper the most annoying one to use

[forest flint]

</3

[hushed imp]

A-10

[forest flint]

Ohhh true

Forgot the C has them

[whole cove]

It’s an acquired taste

[forest flint]

Maybe just maybe ed will add them to the viper

[whole cove]

I doubt it. It’s maybe getting SNIPER and that’s it

Feature complete

[forest flint]

I doubt it too

Theyre kinda stupid broken

At least they sometimes need more than one to kill a tank

The jeff ones are absolutely busted

[hushed imp]

Honestly the most fun I have had in the viper was low level dumb bombs

[forest flint]

I wanna try that stuff more

PErhaps now that ive started playing shadow reapers i can utilise it more

Very few scenarios where low level dumb bombs are the easier choice than glide bombs or BRM’s in Burning Skies

I always prefer to take lgb’s even without a tgp and just set them to dumb

[violet brook]

NO FUCK

I wanted the m2k so bad

[forest flint]

they are still for sale on steam weirdly

💀

[whole cove]

I doubt word has made it to Valve

Charging $70 for the fucking Harrier is robbery tho

[forest flint]

lmao whsy that

the horde

[whole cove]

It’s pretty plain and can’t carry a whole lot. It’s
Not an AV-8B+ so no AMRAAM.

[forest flint]

i sure cant wait to do some air to ground and maybe some air to air:

the humble entirety of usaf and usn

[forest flint]

oh wtf i didnt know that one didnt have amraams

[violet brook]

yeah it's the night attack

[whole cove]

Yeah it’s the Night Attack

[violet brook]

not the plus

[whole cove]

Not the 8B+

[violet brook]

word for word letter for letter

[whole cove]

Except I caps haha

[forest flint]

yeah its honestly got a suprisingly little amount of ordnance, but i think the rest of its avionics make up for it

[violet brook]

so excited my head tracker is home

im just not home

i really want the m2k I might have to blow my money on it

[forest flint]

[forest flint]

you might straight up not get it atp

[violet brook]

wut

[violet brook]

doubt it

it's still an active license

it's just not for sale anymore

[whole cove]

Type shit

[forest flint]

this looks really cool now

theres nobody on cap yet no aircraft

[violet brook]

what server even

[whole cove]

What a sexy loadout

I love the Fulcrum so much

[violet brook]

real

I can't wait for the FF fulcrum

[gusty pollen]

it takes a minute for steam to fix it

i might lowkey cop the harrier rn

eh probably shouldnt now that i think about it

[forest flint]

Shadow reapers

[violet brook]

hmmm

so what map should i be getting if any

or is caccuses all i really need

[whole cove]

Most servers either run PG, Syria, or Cauc.

[violet brook]

ah

so pick up a module rather

hmmm still not sure what i wanna grab

im like 80% sure i want a 2 seater cause i like RIOing

[whole cove]

Well your options are f-14, F-4 or Mirage F-1

[violet brook]

i know i want a CW plane

[violet brook]

oh does the F1 have its 2 seater varient

[whole cove]

Yup

[violet brook]

oh sick

well also

shit

that makes my choice even harder

[whole cove]

It’s got everything except the F-1M which is the modern one

(I don’t have it, but I want it)

[violet brook]

which is also coming right

[whole cove]

Eventually

2weeks ™️

[violet brook]

neat

f1 is def a contender then

F4 F14 F1 AJS37 are all ones i would love to fly

maybe ill just rob a bank

f14 is my bae but like

i incredibly fw the f4 too

life if i could just get both

[whole cove]

F-14 is a good stopgap from early to modern jets

Plus we have like 6 people here who fly it

[abstract gulch]

kitty?

[forest flint]

i think im gonna get the mf1 once the modern one comes out

[violet brook]

yeah i might cop the f1 once its got the f1m

[keen scroll]

That's not the vipers fault, it's EDs. If you had a proper flight plan with IPs and target steerpoints the pod is a joy to use.

[keen scroll]

Joe viper glazing????

[whole cove]

It’s a great Multirole platform

[keen scroll]

We gotta get you on gods chosen flight sim when they drop 4.38 in two weeks™

[violet brook]

i cant wait to hop on BMS when 4.38 drops

[whole cove]

DCS is more fun because it looks nice

[hushed imp]

I mean, it's also my fault for half learning the viper a while ago and forgetting mostly how to use the tgp

[forest flint]

When i initially learnt the viper i think i exclusively learnt a2a

Which im wondering 1: how was i incredibly successful in dodging missiles
And also what else i did when i played dcs, bc this was like the first few months

[whole cove]

I’m in the process of setting up a mission in DCS for a video I’m working on. A little Top Gun MiG sortie meets Ace Combat 5’s intro sequence. https://youtu.be/HryU0syRZH4?si=KaFuycpSeNQUYlc5

Gonna be a lot of me talking to myself (as Pilot, WSO, AWACS, and the RedFOR pilots.)

[violet brook]

thinking I'll start trialing the f14 today

either that or the viggen

[violet brook]

could anyone get on today around <t:1744155900:t>?

[hushed imp]

Maybe

[sturdy topaz]

If you trial the viggen I can help with most of it

been a hot minute since I've flown it though

[stone plover]

I'll be on later tonight closer to 9pm

[hushed imp]

EST?

[stone plover]

ye

[hushed imp]

I can probably do that

[forest flint]

am i crazy for interpreting this as the F-14B(U) is likely going to be after the typhoon

[abstract gulch]

no, i think thats the point, my assumption is that EF takes priority over B(U) and the A-6 is currently in a mild hiatus due to dev issues from the invasion of ukraine

[forest flint]

i thought this was a tornado for a fat minute

[whole cove]

don't remind me of the 'Nado for DCS...

[abstract gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-falling-falling-dropping-cat-dropping-gif-14295811650083223685

[abstract gulch]

imma be honest.. i dont see it

but u do u!

[whole cove]

i see it, minus the TCS

[forest flint]

i thought the tcs was the gear door/whatever this thing is

[stone plover]

Loading in to SOCAL1

[abstract gulch]

i should practice the 14 DEMO some more

[hushed imp]

honestly I think im just going to spend tonight learning how to land on a carrier

[abstract gulch]

well that sounds like fun

u want some help?

[hushed imp]

yea, but im going to be getting on in a couple hours

[abstract gulch]

oh well in that case im gonna practice the F-14 demo lmoa

[forest flint]

I might need to lock in for a few days and learn flanker D carrier landings

I locked in for a few hours but didnt grt good enouh

[abstract gulch]

@sturdy topaz miiiiintyyyy explain pls

[sturdy topaz]

the two chin pods?

[sturdy topaz]

heh.

[whole cove]

I might be on in a bit, working on that video

[forest flint]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1125272867718844416/1360019728458060007/MedalTVDCSWorld20250410183102.mp4?ex=67f99893&is=67f84713&hm=37c4193ac1c4d61bf518dbe1d8aa314f59b154f0e284e33b7086c94ac83af721&

[hushed imp]

Dtc coming for the hornet and viper next update

Letter says customizable from the mission editor

Bignewy apparently clarified on their discord that you can also use it before spawning in, but in a mission

[violet brook]

thank fuck

[forest flint]

Probably will work like the jf-17 one i imagine, thank god for them

Unfortunately the nav setup is kinda useless in big mp servers

[unborn flame]

Depends on the plane

Some can go without

Viggen can't

[forest flint]

Well using the waypoints from the dtc

Bc mp servers will just make a waypoint for every single thing on the map and then its just useless

[gusty pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-dog-staring-at-sun-cute-dog-dog-closed-eyes-dog-staring-at-sunset-gif-10310895250239531072

[whole cove]

Still no SNIPER, no SDB, no Towed Decoy, no Handoff PRF

I know we’re not getting SDB, but I can dream

[rugged fog]

Hopefully sniper soontm

Hand-off prf would also be so dope but I see why it's low on the priority list

[whole cove]

If they get everything on the list done, they can finally call it “released”

[rugged fog]

Ehh "Feature complete"

Also i would drop towed decoy and sdb and then it's probably more realistic set of expectations

[whole cove]

https://youtu.be/XXDrPkMT8fk?si=MniaRd5cHabdSQRk

<@&1095016968643428422> now’s the time to buy the Tomcat, Viggen, or Phantom.

[round oasis]

Why is DTC important?

[orchid dew]

Possible supercarrier hint????

Finally getting the update

🙏

Please ED

[whole cove]

The super carrier already has those screens In it

[sturdy topaz]

it's how you load everything without having to manually punch it in

[whole cove]

But seriously, if you’ve ever hesitated on buying anything HeatBlur, BUY NOW

[round oasis]

"Mow"

[round oasis]

Interesting

[whole cove]

You didn’t see that

[round oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-tell-you-something-meme-gipf-let-me-tell-you-something-let-me-tell-you-let-me-tell-you-seomthing-meme-wait-let-me-tell-you-something-gif-11295314300925847882

[stone plover]

how useful/flyable is the Tomcat without a real human in the backseat?

[whole cove]

Pretty good

It’s better if you have an experienced RIO, as Eman and I’d adventures call for

But it’s fun either way

If you don’t have it, It’s my most recommended module

More than the Phantom IMHO

[stone plover]

it's always been on the list

[hushed imp]

Do it

[whole cove]

Need

[stone plover]

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1405212567/dont-bully-me-ill-come-shirt-unisex

[abstract gulch]

i think the carrier update that stood out to me is that the Forrestal looked a bit better in that video which i hope is the case because she needs some work

[violet brook]

well?

[violet brook]

neat

guess the decision was made for me

ill just get all 3

[whole cove]

@unborn flame @abstract gulch

Early A news colon three

[unborn flame]

[abstract gulch]

yippeeeeeee

[violet brook]

early a?

[abstract gulch]

time to bully MiG-21s and Fitters without TCS!

[whole cove]

Tomcot

[violet brook]

o

another varient of tomcot ??

[abstract gulch]

similar to the 14A we have just a slightly shittier radar and no TCS

[whole cove]

Eventually we’re gonna have four

[abstract gulch]

5 if you are hopeful with the B(U)

and consider the Early USN A and the Persian Cat two different jets, which i will

[violet brook]

wait theres a persian varient

huh

[gusty pollen]

hopefully sdb also soon

[abstract gulch]

yeah we’re getting the Iranian 14 as well

basically just doesn’t have any A/G support and some nice liveries

[violet brook]

oh

[gusty pollen]

I remember rumblings about it when the strike eagle released

[abstract gulch]

maybe some silly weapons if HB can find substantial evidence they were used

[violet brook]

does it get any of the funny rewired weapons systems

[abstract gulch]

like I said, needs evidence the IIAF or IRIAF actually used it operationally

-# doesn’t stop us from fucking with the .lua though

[violet brook]

fun

guess now is the time if never to get the f14

while its dirt cheap

[abstract gulch]

Hell yeah, Tomcats great fun

[violet brook]

considering grabbing the whole pack if i cant convince anyone to do crew pack for the f14

[abstract gulch]

and a monster of you know how to use it right

[violet brook]

cause $120 for F4, F14, AND viggen is awesome

those are 3/4 of the planes i wanted

[abstract gulch]

-# Nez don’t bully me for repeatedly over-g’ing it’s fine

[violet brook]

the other one was the m2k

[abstract gulch]

welll

outta luck there unfortunately

[violet brook]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-blade-runner-2049-jonah-gif-15461738203592622393

[abstract gulch]

it’s joever

[unborn flame]

Not like I can do much to stop you

[abstract gulch]

oh and we got a VDIG-R shot!

so that’s cool

[whole cove]

That’s been floating for a while on HB discord

[abstract gulch]

iirc it’s the same shot from 2025 in beyond but it’s cool to see it again

[whole cove]

I just want Muh goddamn paint kit

So I can commission my F-4 livery

[unborn flame]

Ooooooo
What's that do

[abstract gulch]

new HUD and VDI

[rugged fog]

I think the rumbling was basically that ED has to add it for it to even make it on the SE

So they couldn't confirm it for the SE

It's also not on the viper roadmap

Like hand-off prf, decoy, and sniper are

[abstract gulch]

controls for both of those and the ACM buttons @unborn flame

[stone plover]

https://tenor.com/view/f14-zero-final-countdown-jets-planes-gif-23021916

[forest flint]

A-10C II has SDB last i heard

In game

[unborn flame]

not in game

they have it irl tho

in the tank killer edition you get GBU-54s

and APKWS

that among avionics upgrades and some other stuff like higher quality model and iirc a better damage model was the reason ED created of the Tank Killer DLC

imho A-10 not a bad buy

you get the old C and the new C

old C is a 2005 era hog which lets you do GWOT larp with things like PAVE Penny

new C is a Suite 8 which is a 2014 era hog it gets better DL, Scorpion HMCS, and had the PAVE Penny ripped off

i love the A-10

as soon as you learn how the HOTAS controls work its set

[sturdy topaz]

later suites do

[sturdy topaz]

S7+

not 8

[unborn flame]

i swear it was an 8

[sturdy topaz]

7+

it has a few 8 features iirc

but it's a mix of 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8

and believe the main focus is 7

[sturdy topaz]

S8's outdated regardless

ED give me my S12 A-10C

(we have NO info)

[whole cove]

HB gimme my F-4G and my life is yours

[forest flint]

Deka give me full Block III Thunder and my wallet is yours

[violet brook]

HB give me jaktviggen and my soul is yours

[forest flint]

some manpads fucker shot me so that aa group is a getting a strongly worded "to whom it may concern" (gbu-10)

[violet brook]

@atomic willow you are being dragged to hell

[forest flint]

viper pilots please explain this

[unborn flame]

4/0/2 with 2 bags and a 184

what about it

hes off to go do CAP

[forest flint]

why is he carrying so little missiles

[unborn flame]

thats all he can carry

[forest flint]

?????

[unborn flame]

technically he can carry 2 more missiles on the innermost pylons but hes running an loadout accurate to what US vipers run irl

[forest flint]

i swear they had double racks in the middle wing

[forest flint]

syria is such an incredibly good looking map

its nice to be playing it again after being stuck on caucausus

[sturdy topaz]

no

you're going crazy

chance you've mixed it up with an F-2

or saw the picture of a YF-16 with sparrows everywhere

[forest flint]

I think im mixing kt up with nuclear option ngl…

Oh there was 4 of those vipers btw

They all lost to two 29A”#

[whole cove]

I feel like Diccusing tmrw

[violet brook]

?

no he cant

[forest flint]

And then i had to clean up a flanker that they all missed

gaza liveleak

big fan of gbu-10

big fan of this server making 2000lb bombs have some actual splash to them

[violet brook]

holy based

what server

[forest flint]

shadowreapers dynamic

its heavily based off of bms's systems

[sturdy topaz]

not USAF but regardless

unless these are OCUs at a test squadron

[violet brook]

oh I thought he meant instead of bags

[forest flint]

thats what i got too

razbam stuff is now off of steam too

yet the campaigns for them arent...

[weary pawn]

any phantom guys here who can talk about it? I'm interested in getting it, but have no idea about the set-backs, DCS-isms and bugs the plane has.

[whole cove]

The only major bugs is Shrikes being unreliable

It works well for A/A, Laser and dumb bombs, TV bombs and missiles, and rockets

[weary pawn]

Shrikes are unreliable afaik

[whole cove]

You can buddy lase for peeps

True

If you have every other multi crew aircraft, I would get it. If you’d rather have the F-14 or AH-94 before this, get those

It’s fun, but it’s fun because it’s challenging

Multi crew is awesome in it though. (Interpret the smudges)

[sturdy topaz]

wait did he?

@unborn flame what did you mean

[whole cove]

https://tenor.com/view/phantom-dcs-f-4-2-weeks-heatblur-gif-2922237474368190756

[unborn flame]

You can't mount missile to the bag pylon it's not powered

[whole cove]

Aren’t they strictly wet pylons?

[forest flint]

chat please tell me how 7 f-16

's have lost to a single fulcrum

and 4 hornets

and 3 tomcats

[weary pawn]

whats the senario lmao

[weary pawn]

13 against 1 and they died?

[forest flint]

yes

well theyve sent about 30 total

[weary pawn]

how is the fucking possible

That*

[forest flint]

every single aircraft has died

(i have yet to ever see a missile miss in dcs btw)

no fr like can missiles actually miss in dcs

[weary pawn]

Is it like seperate fulcrums because they only carry 6 missiles max iirc

Missiles can very much miss

[forest flint]

probably two or 3, and maybe a flanker

[forest flint]

agms maybe by a few feet

[weary pawn]

And we're talking AAMs right?

[forest flint]

yeah

even 9b's are guaranteed kills

[weary pawn]

I mean the 73s and 27s are scary if you're unaware, but preflaring and being smart with how you defend makes it possible

Flare logic in DCS is like a dice roll, from how I've had it explained to me. Unlike how VTOL has a different system

[forest flint]

well you cant preflare with 16 flares

[weary pawn]

true but what

What plane only has 16 flares

btw don't take chaff

[forest flint]

jeff lmao

i must take chaff or else the missiles that always hit anyway will always hit

[weary pawn]

Comp players won't touch chaff with a 12 foot pole

[forest flint]

do i just start trusting that the mig-29 95nm away in a dogfight is actually in fact locking me and has a missile and always fly at 20ft ralt

and then have my maximum missile range be 2nm

[weary pawn]

The SD-10 has better EM than the 120s

[forest flint]

jeff disagrees

[weary pawn]

I only fly low once I have launch warnings or pre-defending from incoming ARHs

[forest flint]

well i cant dive to 20ft from 20,000 in time

[violet brook]

well

they are powered

[forest flint]

youre telling me i should jsut do this

[violet brook]

they just dont have missile wiring

you can put JDAMs and GBUs on them

[forest flint]

im sure im being locked bro

yep

[weary pawn]

Yes

[forest flint]

so what am i supposed to do then

[weary pawn]

I'm not knowledgable in the jeff, but defensive posture and SA is the way to roll when going against AI. They struggle to even defend RAero shots, so avoid their MAR and you'll practically be unkillablr

[forest flint]

i cannot avoid their MAR

(minimum abort range?)

[weary pawn]

Yeah

How so, its roughly 18 miles (assuming a decently long turn around time)

[forest flint]

they fire much further than that, and thats also well outside the range of the sd-10's

so basically youre saying dont close in closer than 20nm

[forest flint]

this seems to be assuming youre m1

[weary pawn]

You should be fast for BVR

[forest flint]

jeff cant go m1

[weary pawn]

The tests were done in a jeff

[forest flint]

so probably like 0.97 then

i assume itd be in relation to their fastest speed

unless this was done in a basically fictional loadout

[weary pawn]

https://flyandwire.com/2024/11/18/active-radar-homing-missiles-i-first-launch-opportunity-ranges/

[violet brook]

@whole cove do you kow how many of the F4 upgrades are coming for f14 and viggen later?

like jester 2.0 and or pilot model updates

[whole cove]

None for the viggen AFAIK, maybe the crew chief

j2.0 and Crew chief are coming to Tomcat (maybe)

[forest flint]

yeah so this says eat shit thunder you cant launch at mach 1 (correct)

not... entirely sure what im supposed to take away from this...?

i know it can go far at 25k ft

i cant go that high or ill die bc enemy missile

f-14 had its iff set to hostile??>?

[weary pawn]

Not really. Fire, crank, and fully defend once the missiles active

[orchid dew]

BVR timeline sort of looks like high, shoot at 35-40 miles for a posturing shot, crank and dive (pretty hard) down to about 10k, defend as necessary

From there its down to you really

Id reccomend practicing notching, its busted

Once you get it down you can pretty reliably dodge 5nm shots from most aspects

[forest flint]

it is in fact not busted and is actually not in the game

[orchid dew]

Gang literally every comp player abuses it 💔

including me

Look at 45th gameplay

they rely pretty much solely on the notch

[weary pawn]

define notching bro

[forest flint]

these charts are blatantly false for the sd-10 it seems unfortunately

frogfoot be out here accidentally evading

[weary pawn]

https://medal.tv/games/dcs-world/clips/iSRiUpNEkJCIKhi64/spok?invite=cr-MSxqSG8sMTMyNjE5MDQzLA

[orchid dew]

They look about right, thats sort of the best possible range on each weapon with ideal circumstances

[forest flint]

yeah, 25k ft, 20nm, both hot, sd-10 misses by a few miles and has nowhere near enough energy to even come close to catching a frogfoot

[orchid dew]

Did they defend?

[forest flint]

this is the first time ive ever seen missiles miss though

[forest flint]

not in the slightest

[orchid dew]

Weird, seems like some DCS BS

cause at that range and altitude they should hit easily

especially if you loft

[forest flint]

yeah they were flying at 200kts by the time they got within 2nm

(idk why this is so low res lol) is this not a notch

i dont think ive ever seen a more perfect 90 degree angle

actually see what im talking about withy this lmao

[weary pawn]

You need to fly below the radar source, keep it on 3-9 line

[forest flint]

How am i supposed to fly below it when its at like 10k feet

And what do i fly below if its a sam

[weary pawn]

you're not notching then..

[orchid dew]

Fly lower

Hit the deck

[weary pawn]

Notching doesn't work when there isn't ground clutter behind you

[forest flint]

The sam thing isnt usually a problem bc i think i can outrange everything that isnt an S300 in which case i die but aircraft i do not outrange

[sturdy topaz]

pretty much for USAF

[forest flint]

a successful evassion !!!!!!!!¬

i did successfully dive from 22k and evade two radars

and then lost where the fuck the mig went despite staring directly at it

[sturdy topaz]

you can but it's uncommon

[tranquil breach]

which servers have you been playing on, cause on the ones I play, you have to create your own for targets and stuff

[forest flint]

burning skies, through the inferno, shadowreapers

[silent yarrow]

gonna <@&1095016968643428422> for a bit. Probably SPS Contention Redfor

[orchid dew]

Hell Yeah!!!

nvm you blew up 😭

Well good shit evading some radars

Oh R-73 yeah yikes, those are a pain 😭

Darn you IR missiles and not giving any warning

https://tenor.com/view/its-horrendous-horrendous-it's-peak-peak-old-man-gif-13727455348708015369

[round oasis]

World is a small place

[whole cove]

https://youtu.be/8z4GRd5An0A?si=oEoJsgyNRoSSlpz7

[forest flint]

I evaded one R-73, the second one was just bc i lost visual

[whole cove]

https://youtu.be/yaot2hBBEq0?si=4EjXTDNGv6HYZYSE

I can’t wait to be the only person with this map

[wind sandal]

i feel like it'll sell pretty well

[whole cove]

I hope others here buy it

Finally another non-sandbox

[wind sandal]

i definitely will be lol

ive been waiting so long for a cold war europe map man, its looking heaps promising

[fringe pine]

Fucking finally

[keen scroll]

DTC without steerpoints is crazy

[gusty pollen]

ikr

is the DTC update only adding CMS configs and comms???

[wind sandal]

wtf

adding it with just cms and comm configs, and adding the shit ya wanted in the first place later is a bit fucked lmao

[forest flint]

NCTR is what tells you "this is a flanker, this is a hornet, etc" on your radar right?

[fringe pine]

Yes.

[forest flint]

scanned a friendly f4 10 times to make sure its an enemy

and then it was not an enemy

also jf thinks f-4 radar is a fulcrum

[forest flint]

why does it fly like this

flanker might be the only aircraft in the game id say has a bad flight model ngl

especially because this happens every single time

[round oasis]

Why does that happend?

[forest flint]

bc lightly tapping the stick and then letting go causes it to do a front flip

[round oasis]

Can you record it?

[keen scroll]

DIY ICP

[round oasis]

I want to do this

But im not sure how could i do it

[keen scroll]

3D printer + Soldering iron

[round oasis]

The software part

Also what is that arduino? Never seen that before

[keen scroll]

Arduino Leonardo clone, has a specific chipset to work as a USB device

Software was the easiest part, coding is just a matter of time until you find all the bugs

[round oasis]

Makes sense

i have one

I would like to get involved into making my own F16 cockpit*

[keen scroll]

Do you have a generic uno or a Leonardo?

[round oasis]

Generic uno

[keen scroll]

Unos don't work, I have a few unos flying around too

[round oasis]

Yeah

They need to be HID

Time to ask my father

[hushed imp]

y'know, I was just looking for a project I could needlessly put a custom pcb in

[whole cove]

https://youtu.be/n2O-LigZpyk?si=w7QDPKt3lwECRqH6
This applies to more than just the Phantom (foundation-wise)

We gotta all hop on at some point

Esp. the people who just bought the tomcat/phantom

[weary pawn]

I've been loving the phantom, but haven't touched any of the weapon stuff yet

[forest flint]

I wish the F-5 was more viable in non cold war servers so i could play it with phantom friends

[whole cove]

It is, and it’s fun.

[forest flint]

F-5 is getting nowhere near a 4 flight of R-77 flankers and multiple S-300’s

[whole cove]

Oh you said non-cold war servers haha. Nah, you just gotta fly low and look in the terrain, bring some GBU-12s and have someone buddy lase

And someone on CAP

[whole cove]

https://youtu.be/DTkw7BoO_08?si=KVvTPZmivG0VNktM
Holy shit the A-4 mod is fun

[gusty pollen]

wouldn't phantoms mostly be in cold war servers?

[forest flint]

Yes, but the phantom is still pretty decent even against fully modern aircraft

[hushed imp]

Are there resources to learn it?

[whole cove]

that video I just linked haha

[forest flint]

Trying to close 40nm without any radar missiles, while there are multiple enemies at 30k feet, with PL-12’s and AMRAAM’s and R-77, is easier in the phantom than f-5

[whole cove]

https://youtu.be/VEmy3XHWHKw?si=nE2ESpwKZvVCLxay

https://youtu.be/gQOTZB8PqwA?si=wByKfDLOyzdpEtQ4

Damn, the A-4 mod has been around for THREE years!?

SIX!?

[naive osprey]

yeah uhhh

that was only a year before covid

👴

[gusty pollen]

aint no way

I remember bitzs and I tried using the phantom in growling sidewinder

we were both in the same jet and after flying for like 15-20 miles we just exploded

[whole cove]

Phantom against anything newer than an SA-5 or MiG-25 is suicide.

[forest flint]

I didnt say it was good lmao

Also on not air quake servers where you have to also contend with ground units as well

[gusty pollen]

mf you said "pretty decent" 😭

[forest flint]

The only people im not seeing lose to two su-33’s are the phantoms and not the 6 vipers (seriously what is going on??)

[whole cove]

<@&1095016968643428422> Anyone for Dicus?

Any new Phantom or Tomcot gamers

[silent yarrow]

I’m down to play in a lil’ bit.

[whole cove]

in VC2 Done

[hushed imp]

in a bit

[forest flint]

me and bro

[whole cove]

All done for the night, sorry ladies and germs

[harsh notch]

I'll try to hop on tomorrow night

[forest flint]

fellas ima be real i have no idea what im looking at here

(this is why i dont fly stuff without computers 😭)

[sturdy topaz]

Basically just instructions to perform smth consistently

[forest flint]

well mostly i dont understand what im looking at on the table

[sturdy topaz]

with the chart giving the parameters for certain profiles

ok so for example column 1

you're diving at 20 degrees

you start the dive when you're at 5k ft above the target at a speed of 350-370kts

fire once you're 1500ft above the target and are travelling 400 kts

[forest flint]

those parameters seem...subpar for attacking anything thats shooting back..

the aim-9p is better than the j right?

i know the b sucks, i remember the J being alright from war thunder, the P ive had a lot of trouble getting locks with, but it might be me?

[sturdy topaz]

how it is

unless you want to eyeball it

[forest flint]

ffar rockets vs hydra rockets?

[sturdy topaz]

essentially the same until the last 2 blocks of the 9P

[sturdy topaz]

I'd imagine zunis would have the most range

[forest flint]

not a choice im afraid

[sturdy topaz]

but iirc mighty mouse have some pretty poor falloff

[sturdy topaz]

check the other pylons

[forest flint]

eyah

ffars or hydras

[sturdy topaz]

crazy

[forest flint]

this is tiger not phantom

goin with hydras

[sturdy topaz]

it's a navy rocket regardless

the F-4E shouldn't have it either

[forest flint]

well the dcs f-5e is also the aggressor one too

i should fly iranian livery on a pvp red vs blue server

as blue team

WHERE IS THIS SKIN I CANNOT FIND IT

would turkish air force be weird to fly as a blue team f-5 in 70's?

[sturdy topaz]

it has the livery but it doesn't mean it is one

Take like

any of the F-16's aggressor liveries for DCS

[forest flint]

I feel like attacking a building with these rockets is not working but im going to keep trying

it took 4 pods but i did kill it

[whole cove]

We gotta coordinate a time tonight or smt

[stone plover]

I should be game for diccusing tonight.

[harsh notch]

I'll be on in an hour. Ima go run and grab dinner in the mean time.

[whole cove]

Get something good

Like pizza

[harsh notch]

Im trying to cut rn otherwise I would 🥲

[whole cove]

https://tenor.com/view/friends-joey-tribbiani-matt-le-blanc-pizza-yum-gif-13445240518684729311

[harsh notch]

https://tenor.com/view/will-ferrell-crying-sad-wine-drinking-gif-16790335

[whole cove]

I won't tease anymore... 😉

[whole cove]

https://youtu.be/CXOE2MVJ4AU?si=NvbPOwmlq5nGk1pL

[harsh notch]

Jumping on <@&1095016968643428422> load up

[abstract gulch]

unable, not home

[harsh notch]

F

[whole cove]

aight spooling up

TARS, Come on TARS

[stone plover]

where we at?

[whole cove]

4YA Caucasus Sneaki?>

[violet brook]

im so hyped for this map

i really hope its popular

and used

[whole cove]

same

Can't wait to fly out of Spangdahlem

[violet brook]

because it looks so sexy and ive been waiting for this region for a long time

[forest flint]

im sure like every cold war server will replace it

its why im relearning the f-5 again

[steep apex]

makes me wish I didn't prefer modern so much

good lookin map

none of the servers I play on will use it