#help with weapon choices

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arctic forge
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So my 4000 point army will be box + kratos + alpharius + 10 lernaean termanators + leviathan dreadnought + 10 thousand sons terminators + 13 headhunters 1 group of 7 one group of 6 + exodus

arctic forge
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willow imp
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is this a leviathal?

arctic forge
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What’s that

tacit valley
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Headhunter Leviathal is a Rite of War that lets you take Hedhunters as troops

arctic forge
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No

tacit valley
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Also, I don't know if 4000 points is a common game size?

willow imp
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you need to choose a rite of war for the list, since you didnt mention any troops my only guess is that the head hunters are your troops

arctic forge
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It doesn’t have I right of war

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willow imp
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you want to shoot for 2500 points without your primarch

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3k is the sweet spots for games

arctic forge
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I have a 3000 point list

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1 kratos + 1 alpharius + box set + 10 lenaeans + 1 leviathan dreadnoughts

willow imp
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all I can say is that your list is a little generic, i understand the irony here but theming is important even for the 20th

arctic forge
tacit valley
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No list shaming
let them play the army they want

willow imp
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it doesnt do anything bad but it doesnt do anything well besides sit on objectives

arctic forge
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I just chose cool units

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  • the box set
willow imp
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if you want advice on weapon choices you honestly might want to take the Cbeamers on the lernaeans

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since with that many termies you are sitting on objectives over being aggressive

arctic forge
willow imp
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1 per 5, and you have 10

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2 cbeamers will help your long range game looking at the unit spread

tacit valley
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I highly suggest giving one Headhunter in each squad a Multimelta
They are great for sniping Characters

willow imp
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this is also a good recco

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headhunters being able to take weird heavy weapons is surprisingly effective

tacit valley
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For the troops are you planning to field them all as just regular Tac Marines?

arctic forge
tacit valley
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If so, I would suggest using half the Box Marines as your Headhunters

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Then you can do 2 20 person squads

willow imp
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making your army a leviathal is actually pretty easy by the looks

tacit valley
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And I'd personally give them Chain Bayonets

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Chain Bayonets are COOL

arctic forge
arctic forge
tacit valley
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I would agree with Alpharius and take them as the Headhunter Leviathal
you get a bunch of cool buffs

willow imp
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i think the only thing that matters is pride of the legion if you are running them without the headhunters

arctic forge
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I could add two and make it 3 headhunters and make the requirement

tacit valley
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You won't need to
2 units will be more than enough, and I'd just take them in Fast attack

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Then keep your Tac Marines as Troops

willow imp
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Yeah looking at the available rites of war, your 3k is essentially just going to be Pride of the Legion

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itll make your cataphraciis scoring units

arctic forge
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Makes sense

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How well do you think the thousand sons terminators work in the 4000 point list

willow imp
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tbh not at all

arctic forge
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Why

willow imp
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like what do you want them to do?

arctic forge
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Cool units and phykers

willow imp
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other than being cool they dont really do much for you

arctic forge
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What would work better

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While being a unit from another legion

willow imp
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youd want to take something like a tyrant siege squad and at 4k youd be using the headhunter leviathal over pride of the legion

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tyrants are the go to pick for rewards

arctic forge
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What’s a tyrant siege squad

willow imp
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its an IW special units

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cataphractiis with missiles that have 3 different modes

arctic forge
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How many point are they

willow imp
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275 base i think

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ill check real quick

arctic forge
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Also loyalist or heratics

willow imp
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so i take it you havent read the the liber loyalist or liber hereticus yet and are generally new to the heresy yes?

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the iron warriors are traitors

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so tyrants are base 300 for 5 and you can take up to 5 more at 55 per model

arctic forge
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I’ve read the liber hereticus but only the alpha legion and thousand sons

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So 10 thousand sons ones is 525 points

willow imp
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575 for 10 tyrants before upgrades

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they come with combi bolters and power fists

arctic forge
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9 of thes would be 520 points

willow imp
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powerfists can be swapped to chain fists and the gun+fist can be swapped for claws

arctic forge
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Also why would these work better

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Than the thousand sons ones

willow imp
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so you basically cant deal with flyers and you have trouble at long range as is with your unit choice

arctic forge
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Ahh

willow imp
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the tyrants have skyfire missiles and the frag/krak variants are 48 inches as well

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so you take care of your flyer problem and long range problem at the same time

arctic forge
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That’s good thanks for the advice

willow imp
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even if you didnt have those 2 factors influencing that id still recommend them as they are the strongest unit you can take as alpha legion in general

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barring game types like zone mortalis

arctic forge
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I now have 3 heavy support choices