Legio Cybernetica-Heresy-3k Points | HH: Age of Darkness | Page 1

ripe snow Mar 17, 2022, 3:16 PM

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I'm keeping this here to map all the changes,suggestions and the like with the list.

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📎 Legio_Amadeus.txt

dry glen Mar 17, 2022, 3:24 PM

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ironicduck

ripe snow Mar 17, 2022, 3:26 PM

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happydread

dry glen Mar 17, 2022, 4:02 PM

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this list honestly looks great

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stompy robots make me smile

tender ice Mar 17, 2022, 4:17 PM

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too gamey, for my taste

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why dont take some niche units?

ripe snow Mar 17, 2022, 4:20 PM

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too gamey?

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I've only been playing for a month and have only played mechanicum for a couple weeks at best, I dont know the niche units lol

tender ice Mar 17, 2022, 4:21 PM

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Thantar-Calix

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what i mean gamey is too min-maxing for a list

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you taking alot of best units of Mechanicum

ripe snow Mar 17, 2022, 4:21 PM

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I'd rather not spend 300 points on a calix

tender ice Mar 17, 2022, 4:22 PM

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therefore, you can table alot of newbs out there

ripe snow Mar 17, 2022, 4:22 PM

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I'm a noob with them lol,I'm just picking things that have.........worked or Im forced to take

tender ice Mar 17, 2022, 4:22 PM

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Calix + Scoria works fine for meeee in cybernetica list

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haha

ripe snow Mar 17, 2022, 4:23 PM

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Scoria is a nightmare,plus i do plan on building this list irl so even thinking about scoria is a no go for me

tender ice Mar 17, 2022, 4:23 PM

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have you consider to go to Cynis?

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with Dominus, you can double fire dem templates

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and they can in a squad

ripe snow Mar 17, 2022, 4:24 PM

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If i had 300 extra points and some type of escort for it Id consider

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In a bigger game,I'd probably grab one but for 3k, the only thing I'm stuck on is that melee castellax squad. I do want sometype of melee unit that can deal with drop poding leviathans ASAP

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My archmagos is built for slapping fools so I want to give him an escort while he walks up the board to keep the Arlatax and Vultrax in cortex range

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I thought about having 5 Voraxes to escort him,but they dont have enough survivability. Domitars feel like a waste of points half the time so honestly i have no clue

dry glen Mar 17, 2022, 4:31 PM

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Just take what worked for you for an irl list that you are going to build your self I don't see whats wrong with it

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After all you want to take units that have done good by you else your just going to start doubting and regretting taking em, you will after all be building them and painting them blondiesPat

ripe snow Mar 17, 2022, 4:34 PM

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Only units so far that have worked consistently well has been thanatar,vultrax, and HQ so those are the first picks

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Thralls are fodder so thats whatever

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Castellaxes (darkfire) have been failing me consistently but i have to take them

dry glen Mar 17, 2022, 4:35 PM

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Poor dark fire

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Dark fires benefits are more it doesn't care what armour value you got it will be glancing on 5s and penning on 6s

ripe snow Mar 17, 2022, 4:37 PM

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Decided to double shoot with a darkfire, not only did he miss 2 shots,along with failing to glance on the other 2, he fking killed himself on gets hot

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he hits on fucking 2's like come on

dry glen Mar 17, 2022, 4:38 PM

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Against armour 11 or 10 it will do better but it will reliably perform regardless of armour value what hampers dark fires are bad rolls and flare shields

ripe snow Mar 17, 2022, 4:38 PM

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dry glen Mar 17, 2022, 4:38 PM

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ripe snow Decided to double shoot with a darkfire, not only did he miss 2 shots,along with...

The magic of dice

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Also with gets hot it was very unlucky you failed the armour saves

ripe snow Mar 17, 2022, 4:40 PM

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I hit on 2's and manage to roll 1 atleast 80% of the time

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thats not me over estimating it either lol,its that consistent

dry glen Mar 17, 2022, 4:42 PM

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I believe Your dice luck shall gradually improve the longer you play, one must have hope ishlexHappy

ripe snow Mar 17, 2022, 4:47 PM

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thats the hope

ripe snow Mar 18, 2022, 2:59 AM

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@fair moss sorry to alert you here

📎 Legio_Amadeus.txt

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They'll be walking with the arch-magos dominus

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I'll just need something up the board to keep my vultrax and arlataxes in cortex range

fair moss Mar 18, 2022, 3:03 AM

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Jump pack Magos with Arlatax.

ripe snow Mar 18, 2022, 3:09 AM

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fair enough

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I'll drop 1 volkite to give me the points for the magos

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175 points to get him a jump pack,cortex controller,power&chain fist

fair moss Mar 18, 2022, 3:21 AM

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Yep, and you can just make one of the existing Magos into that.

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Should cut costs a bit.

ripe snow Mar 18, 2022, 3:22 AM

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the dominus cant take a jump pack

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only the primes can

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and the primes are just expensive period

fair moss Mar 18, 2022, 3:24 AM

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Ah, gotcha.

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Well, that's annoying. You want a cheap guy with jump pack.

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All he exists to do is extend cortex range.

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If you'd need to buy a Prime... honestly, just suck up the cortex controller loss.

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You're Cybernetica, it's 24" for you anyway.

ripe snow Mar 18, 2022, 3:25 AM

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yeah but if they are outside of my 24 inch range which the Vultrax easily will be and the Arlatax will be eventually then i cant sweep with them

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unless i drop an arlatax and get paragon of metal on the 1 that remains

fair moss Mar 18, 2022, 3:25 AM

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Vulturax doesn't care about melee. Arlatax might, but just push up guys in their general direction and you should be mostly fine.

ripe snow Mar 18, 2022, 3:26 AM

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Then i could swap back to a dominus,save a few points and probably grab something else

fair moss Mar 18, 2022, 3:26 AM

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A 24" radius circle is huge.

ripe snow Mar 18, 2022, 3:26 AM

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wait,is it radius or diameter

fair moss Mar 18, 2022, 3:26 AM

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Radius.

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24" range drawn from the model's base means a bit more than 24" radius.

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Go on TTS and measure it out.

ripe snow Mar 18, 2022, 3:27 AM

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if i can get one of my guys to the center itd be fine,but I have my warlord with the myrmidons,and 1 guy with the thanatar so neither will ever need to move. The last one is the option

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If i keep him back with my castellax then ill need paragon of metal on an arlatax and let it run free until it gets focused and dies, BUT that'd save me roughly 150 points to use for another darkfire castellax

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or something of that nature

fair moss Mar 18, 2022, 3:29 AM

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Nah, I think you want both Arlatax for redundancy.

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At this point, I can't give you any more advice without you getting reps in.

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Go forth and kick someone's head in.

ripe snow Mar 18, 2022, 3:29 AM

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lmao

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thats fine,you've given me lots of advice. I'll play a game probably saturday morning since tomorrow is my birthday and im spending it with my girl

fair moss Mar 18, 2022, 3:30 AM

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Hey, happy birthday! Enjoy.

ripe snow Mar 18, 2022, 3:31 AM

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also what were those graphs you were using

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or atleast,how did you make them

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and what was that 1 damage part of it

fair moss Mar 18, 2022, 3:32 AM

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ghostlords dice.

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They're designed for 8th/9th edition, but you can work them for 30k.

ripe snow Mar 18, 2022, 3:33 AM

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got it

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So if I used this right,this is what the average for regular marines wounds would look like.

fair moss Mar 18, 2022, 3:41 AM

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Yep.

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Then you'd deflagrate.

ripe snow Mar 18, 2022, 3:43 AM

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This is what it said for anything with a 5+ feel no pain

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along with the 3+ save

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lol

fair moss Mar 18, 2022, 3:44 AM

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Doesn't look like the FNP implemented correctly.

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You should use "ignore wounds on a roll of a 5 or 6" and "1 wound".

ripe snow Mar 18, 2022, 3:45 AM

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not going to worry about it too much. At the most, I can expect 2-3 wounds to go through

fair moss Mar 18, 2022, 3:45 AM

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Yeah, it's 6.3*(2/3) -> 4.2 dead.

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Plus Deflagrate.

ripe snow Mar 18, 2022, 3:45 AM

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yeah

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which might be 1 extra if i expect saves and feel no pain

dry glen Mar 18, 2022, 4:40 AM

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One the bright side it's so many saves that I will kill something

ripe snow Mar 18, 2022, 9:37 PM

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Finally got it right. This is the 20 volkite shots versus tactical marines with an apothecary. It include deflagrate

dry glen Mar 18, 2022, 10:51 PM

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ripe snow Finally got it right. This is the 20 volkite shots versus tactical marines with ...

So 4 models

ripe snow Mar 18, 2022, 10:53 PM

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6 in total

dry glen Mar 18, 2022, 10:55 PM

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Oh

ripe snow Mar 18, 2022, 10:55 PM

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After deflagrate

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Ok average

dry glen Mar 18, 2022, 10:57 PM

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I am kinda curious what 40 volkites shots will do

ripe snow Mar 19, 2022, 1:03 AM

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one sec

ripe snow Mar 19, 2022, 1:04 AM

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dry glen I am kinda curious what 40 volkites shots will do

same parameters right

dry glen Mar 19, 2022, 1:14 AM

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Jesus

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I joke that volkite heavy weapons squads kill entire units of infantry but there seems to be plenty of truth to that now

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🤣

ripe snow Mar 19, 2022, 1:19 AM

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double the shot equals quadruple the average kills. Actually insane

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wait there was a mistake in there

ripe snow Mar 19, 2022, 1:22 AM

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dry glen I joke that volkite heavy weapons squads kill entire units of infantry but there...

This is corrected.

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roughly 10 wounds

dry glen Mar 19, 2022, 1:22 AM

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Still killing minium sized tactical squads

ripe snow Mar 19, 2022, 1:23 AM

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at 40 volkite shots though,how much are you paying for all that

dry glen Mar 19, 2022, 1:23 AM

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Hmmmm let me check I think it's 5 points per culverin

ripe snow Mar 19, 2022, 1:23 AM

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Also this includes a 5+ feel no pain which generally a tactical squad wont have so it will absolutely kill a tactical squad

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wait is it the 15 inch range vulkites

dry glen Mar 19, 2022, 1:36 AM

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ripe snow Also this includes a 5+ feel no pain which generally a tactical squad wont have ...

Culverins are 45 inch range

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Strength 6

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Chargers are 15 inch range strength 5

ripe snow Mar 19, 2022, 1:38 AM

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what kind of monster are you going to find that'll give you that many volkite shots

dry glen Mar 19, 2022, 1:38 AM

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Heavy support squads

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All with Culverins

ripe snow Mar 19, 2022, 1:38 AM

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fair enough

dry glen Mar 19, 2022, 1:42 AM

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It will be hilarious

sturdy grove Mar 20, 2022, 5:52 AM

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ripe snow This is corrected.

quick question, what program is this that's being used?

ripe snow Mar 20, 2022, 5:59 AM

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sturdy grove quick question, what program is this that's being used?

Ghost Dice

ripe snow Mar 20, 2022, 6:33 AM

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Test Idea

📎 Legio_Amadeus-Test.txt

dry glen Mar 20, 2022, 7:41 AM

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Oh

tender ice Mar 21, 2022, 2:26 AM

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dude why power gaming...

ripe snow Mar 21, 2022, 2:31 AM

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called a test for a reason

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Im not going to buy units that wont perform

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Also,sadly half my automatas are only in the fast attack slot. Sadly that is full since i need those 3 units

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If you can recommend units that actually have a chance to perform then let me know

ripe snow Mar 21, 2022, 4:10 PM

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Nothing changed,just fked something up

📎 Legio_Amadeus.txt

dry glen Mar 21, 2022, 4:14 PM

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Ah nice catch on the fuck up ironicduck

ripe snow Mar 21, 2022, 4:28 PM

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Also just realized the knight has a rad-furnace on it...while dropping the thanatar to T7 might not cause Instant death, it still makes it easier to wound. Now im thinking to myself is making the thanatar easier to wound a good trade off for knowing that my knight's base strength can instant death anything base T4 and under or T5 and under with that melee weapon

neon lintel Mar 21, 2022, 8:03 PM

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ripe snow Also just realized the knight has a rad-furnace on it...while dropping the thana...

Had a rad furnace?

ripe snow Mar 21, 2022, 8:03 PM

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neon lintel Had a rad furnace?

whats up?

neon lintel Mar 21, 2022, 8:03 PM

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Rad furnace didn't effect friendly models

ripe snow Mar 21, 2022, 8:03 PM

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it does

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The scyllax has a rad-furnace and it also affects friendly models

neon lintel Mar 21, 2022, 8:04 PM

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It doesn't, but ok

ripe snow Mar 21, 2022, 8:04 PM

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Says all models

neon lintel Mar 21, 2022, 8:05 PM

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Friendly models can't be locked in combat with each

ripe snow Mar 21, 2022, 8:05 PM

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Other friendly units can though

neon lintel Mar 21, 2022, 8:05 PM

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Your thanatar isn't locked in combat with the knight

ripe snow Mar 21, 2022, 8:06 PM

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If the knight joins the combat that the thanatar is a part of then its locked in combat until that combat is over

jolly folio Mar 21, 2022, 8:08 PM

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neon lintel Rad furnace didn't effect friendly models

it affects all models
friend or foe

neon lintel Mar 21, 2022, 8:16 PM

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Never seen it played like that in the UK, was agreed when they came out amongst the community and iirc some fw response that you can't be locked in combat with friendly models. But play it however you like

jolly folio Mar 21, 2022, 8:17 PM

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Neysu, please keep your attitude in check

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This goes for you too Sora 🙂

dry glen Mar 26, 2022, 3:14 PM

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Nice

ripe snow Mar 28, 2022, 1:45 AM

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Arcane,ignore the next thing

dry glen Mar 28, 2022, 1:47 AM

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Hmm?

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Narrows eyes

ripe snow Mar 31, 2022, 1:08 AM

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📎 Legio_Amadeus.txt

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Just arranging stuff arcane

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sadly not many people give info I need outside of this discord so Im just throwing stuff around until it sticks

dry glen Mar 31, 2022, 1:23 AM

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That tends to be how it goes, trying things out and seeing if you like it

ripe snow Mar 31, 2022, 1:31 AM

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Kind of want a knight, and convert it with a Brass Scorpion but I hate super heavies and cant fit it into a 3k list

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saw this and wanted it

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actually wait,maybe if i up it to 5k

dry glen Mar 31, 2022, 1:34 AM

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You can always plan for the future

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Making sure your list is viable at all points values

ripe snow Mar 31, 2022, 1:37 AM

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Wait,i dont know why Im worrying about it when I dont know about the changes

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Though,1 thing i know i need is a 3rd scoring troop since scoring would be nice.

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GW give me a 7th troop slot

dry glen Mar 31, 2022, 1:53 AM

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Unless you want to drop some castallaxs then that is a no 😆

ripe snow Mar 31, 2022, 1:59 AM

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I know

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Hopefully Cybernetica becomes more balanced rather than being a strike force

ripe snow Apr 6, 2022, 1:13 PM

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word

dry glen Apr 6, 2022, 1:20 PM

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Words

tender ice Apr 7, 2022, 12:37 AM

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sus

dry glen Apr 7, 2022, 12:53 AM

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tender ice sus

👁️

dry glen Apr 13, 2022, 11:09 AM

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