hazy cairn Apr 16, 2025, 5:43 AM

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LA - X: Iron Hands - Tarantula IH Mortalis - [1000 Pts]

++ ZM 1. Mortalis Assault Force Organisation Chart ++ [1000 Pts]

Expanded Army Lists

Expanded Army List Profiles: Exemplary Units On, Legacy Units On

Allegiance

Allegiance: Loyalist
X: Iron Hands

Rite of War

Rite of War: The Head Of The Gorgon (IH)

HQ [515 Pts]

Praetor, Cataphractii [515 Pts]: Warlord, From Hel’s Heart (Loyalist only)
• 1x Iron-Father [215 Pts]: Master of the Legion, Cataphractii Terminator Armour, Thunder Hammer, Combi-Bolter, Iron-Father (Cyber-Familiar, Machinator Array (HotG) (Graviton Gun, Meltagun))
• 1x Morlock Terminator Squad [300 Pts]: Cataphractii Terminator Armour
• 1x Augmentor [20 Pts]: Volkite Culverin, Power Fist
• 3x Morlock [45 Pts]: Volkite Charger, Power Fist
• 1x Morlock [65 Pts]: Legion Standard, Power Fist

Elites [150 Pts]

Castra Ferrum Dreadnought Talon [150 Pts]:
• 1x Castra Ferrum Dreadnought [150 Pts]: Gravis Lascannon, Gravis Power Fist with in-built ranged weapon, Heavy Flamer

Troops [335 Pts]

Tactical Squad (Inductii) [110 Pts]: Frag Grenades, Inductii, Krak Grenades, Power Armour
• 1x Legion Tactical Sergeant [10 Pts]: Bolter, Bolt Pistol, Power Armour, Phosphex Bomb
• 9x Legionary [10 Pts]: Bolt Pistol, Bolter
Tactical Squad (Inductii) [110 Pts]: Frag Grenades, Inductii, Krak Grenades, Power Armour
• 1x Legion Tactical Sergeant [10 Pts]: Bolter, Bolt Pistol, Power Armour, Phosphex Bomb
• 9x Legionary [10 Pts]: Bolt Pistol, Bolter

Tactical Squad [115 Pts]: Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades, Power Armour
• 1x Legion Tactical Sergeant [15 Pts]: Bolter, Bolt Pistol, Power Fist, Power Armour
• 9x Legionary [10 Pts]: Bolt Pistol, Bolter

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Very new to Heresy, putting together a thematic list for a campaign with friends which is starting with a ZM game, just was curious about thoughts on this and any adjustments or ideas people might have.

The stuff I wanna keep is the Praetor with the Morlock Retinue and at least some of the inductii since thats part of the fluff of it, but I'm down to hear any ideas or thoughts. Maybe if scaling back on the retinue for example is a good idea or if I should remove a squad and invest in the others, and so on.

grand ibex Apr 16, 2025, 5:47 AM

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Your compulsory troops can't be inductii

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They have support squad

hazy cairn Apr 16, 2025, 5:50 AM

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grand ibex They have support squad

I know thats why I have a normal tactical squad in there.

grand ibex Apr 16, 2025, 5:50 AM

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Ohhhh I didn't notice

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Should've added a space between the two squads

hazy cairn Apr 16, 2025, 5:50 AM

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Yeah it blends in a bit lol

For the purposes of the campaign they're "inductii" too.

grand ibex Apr 16, 2025, 5:51 AM

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But yeah anyways I really can't think of much to say since you wanna keep the praetor with morlock retinue, and that's the main thing that's hampering your list

hazy cairn Apr 16, 2025, 5:56 AM

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I'm down to hear any ideas even if its removing the retinue for example, or scaling them back a lot. Especially since this is ZM and what I'm running for that doesn't necessarily have to be the full deal.

grand ibex Apr 16, 2025, 5:57 AM

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I'd go for a delegatus over a praetor tbh

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And a regular termie command squad over morlocks

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Iron father and morlocks are fun, but they are very very expensive, and at 1k I just don't think you can afford to pay the high price

hazy cairn Apr 16, 2025, 5:59 AM

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Would you suggest I do cata for the command squad/consul still?

grand ibex Apr 16, 2025, 5:59 AM

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Oh yeah command squads are still highly recommended

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Reinforcement points highly incentivize you to take them since paying 4 points for just your single warlord is an insane cost

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Anyways, a cataphractii delegatus with a thammer is 125 points, and a 3 man cataphractii command squad with all hammers is 170. Total of 295 points over your 515 points

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A fun alternative might just be forgoing an IC all together

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I can see a squad of morlocks doing fine alone

hazy cairn Apr 16, 2025, 6:05 AM

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I do like the Morlock squad HQ idea, keeps the theme and I don't really need the rite of war for this list.

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So, assuming I kit out the Morlocks basically the same as I have above but remove the praetor, that leaves me with 215 extra points.

grand ibex Apr 16, 2025, 6:06 AM

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Tac support squad time😎

hazy cairn Apr 16, 2025, 6:08 AM

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Should I do one for each tactical squad?

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or two I guess since math

grand ibex Apr 16, 2025, 6:08 AM

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I think it'll depend on what they're equipped with

hazy cairn Apr 16, 2025, 6:09 AM

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What would you recommend?

And should I invest in stuff like chain bayonets or sgt upgrades for the tactical/inductiis at all or keep them as is largely?

grand ibex Apr 16, 2025, 6:10 AM

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135 for plasma gun dudes seems alright, but something about instant death seems more important for ZM so maybe 160 for melta dudes?

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Hmmm

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Taking the plasma dudes gives you enough points for another squad of plasma dudes and 25 extra points. Taking a melta squad would give you 135 points to work with instead.

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Maybe melta squad, then more bodies for the morlocks, and the leftovers can go to upgrades for the other squads

hazy cairn Apr 16, 2025, 6:15 AM

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HQ [300 Pts]

Morlock Terminator Squad [300 Pts]: Cataphractii Terminator Armour
• 1x Augmentor [40 Pts]: Warlord, Volkite Culverin, Power Fist, Cyber-Familiar
• 4x Morlock [45 Pts]: Volkite Charger, Power Fist

Troops [550 Pts]

Tactical Squad (Inductii) [129 Pts]: Frag Grenades, Inductii, Krak Grenades, Power Armour
• 1x Legion Tactical Sergeant [11 Pts]: Bayonet, Bolter, Bolt Pistol, Power Armour, Phosphex Bomb
• 9x Legionary [12 Pts]: Chain Bayonet, Bolt Pistol, Bolter

Tactical Squad (Inductii) [128 Pts]: Frag Grenades, Inductii, Krak Grenades, Power Armour
• 1x Legion Tactical Sergeant [10 Pts]: Bolter, Bolt Pistol, Power Armour, Phosphex Bomb
• 9x Legionary [12 Pts]: Chain Bayonet, Bolt Pistol, Bolter

Tactical Squad [133 Pts]: Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades, Power Armour
• 1x Legion Tactical Sergeant [15 Pts]: Bolter, Bolt Pistol, Power Fist, Power Armour
• 9x Legionary [12 Pts]: Chain Bayonet, Bolt Pistol, Bolter

Tactical Support Squad [160 Pts]: Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades, Power Armour, Meltagun
• 1x Legion Tactical Support Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Power Armour
• 4x Legionary [12 Pts]: Bolt Pistol

Dread is the same at 150 points so I didn't include it, not sure if chain bayonets all around or upgrading the sgts is better.

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But this is the tentative adjustment.

grand ibex Apr 16, 2025, 6:17 AM

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Oh also try to take at least one augury scanner

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infiltrate is powerful in ZM

hazy cairn Apr 16, 2025, 6:22 AM

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HQ [330 Pts]

Morlock Terminator Squad [330 Pts]: Cataphractii Terminator Armour
• 1x Augmentor [40 Pts]: Warlord, Volkite Culverin, Power Fist, Cyber-Familiar
• 1x Morlock [75 Pts]: Legion Standard, Power Fist, Augury Scanner
• 3x Morlock [45 Pts]: Volkite Charger, Power Fist

Troops [520 Pts]

Tactical Squad (Inductii) [130 Pts]: Frag Grenades, Inductii, Krak Grenades, Power Armour
• 1x Legion Tactical Sergeant [12 Pts]: Chain Bayonet, Bolter, Bolt Pistol, Power Armour, Phosphex Bomb
• 9x Legionary [12 Pts]: Chain Bayonet, Bolt Pistol, Bolter

Tactical Squad (Inductii) [128 Pts]: Frag Grenades, Inductii, Krak Grenades, Power Armour
• 1x Legion Tactical Sergeant [10 Pts]: Bolter, Bolt Pistol, Power Armour, Phosphex Bomb
• 9x Legionary [12 Pts]: Chain Bayonet, Bolt Pistol, Bolter

Tactical Squad [102 Pts]: Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades, Power Armour
• 1x Legion Tactical Sergeant [2 Pts]: Chain Bayonet, Bolter, Bolt Pistol, Power Armour
• 9x Legionary [10 Pts]: Bolt Pistol, Bolter

Tactical Support Squad [160 Pts]: Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades, Power Armour, Meltagun
• 1x Legion Tactical Support Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Power Armour
• 4x Legionary [12 Pts]: Bolt Pistol

Added the augury scanner and legion standard to Morlocks, removed chain bayonets and power fist from non-inductii tactical squad.

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Appreciate the help, still works for the general theme of the campaign I think and feels stronger.

vital lodge Apr 16, 2025, 11:54 AM

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@hazy cairn tbh I would put Augery on a few of the tac squads

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To give your deployment zone better coverage

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@grand ibex Night Fighting happens in Zone Mortalis correct?

grand ibex Apr 16, 2025, 12:03 PM

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vital lodge <@209741411791273984> Night Fighting happens in Zone Mortalis correct?

No

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Not in any of the ZM missions

vital lodge Apr 16, 2025, 12:04 PM

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Ok

vital lodge Apr 16, 2025, 12:05 PM

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grand ibex No

++ ZM 1. Mortalis Assault Force Organisation Chart (LA - X: Iron Hands) [980pts] ++

Expanded Army Lists +

Expanded Army List Profiles:: Exemplary Units On, Legacy Units On

Allegiance: +

Allegiance: Loyalist

X: Iron Hands

Rite of War: +

Rite of War

HQ: +

Morlock Terminator Squad [335Pts]
. 1) Augmentor: Cyber-Familiar, Graviton Shredder, Power Fist, Warlord
. 2) Morlock: Augury Scanner, Legion Standard, Power Fist
. 2) Morlock: Power Fist, Volkite Charger
. 2) Morlock: Power Fist, Volkite Charger
. 2) Morlock: Power Fist, Volkite Charger

Troops: +

Tactical Squad [120Pts]
. Legion Tactical Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Armour
. 7x Legionary: 7x Bolt Pistol, 7x Bolter
. Legionary w/ Options:: Augury Scanner, Bolt Pistol, Bolter
. Legionary w/ Options:: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Legion Vexilla

Tactical Squad (Inductii) [110Pts]: Inductii
. Legion Tactical Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Phosphex Bomb, Power Armour
. 9x Legionary: 9x Bolt Pistol, 9x Bolter

Tactical Support Squad [135Pts]: Plasma Gun
. Legion Tactical Support Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Power Armour
. Legionary: Bolt Pistol
. Legionary: Bolt Pistol
. Legionary: Bolt Pistol
. Legionary: Bolt Pistol

Tactical Support Squad [160Pts]: Meltagun
. Legion Tactical Support Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Power Armour
. Legionary: Bolt Pistol
. Legionary: Bolt Pistol
. Legionary: Bolt Pistol
. Legionary: Bolt Pistol

++ Total: [980pts] ++

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grand ibex Apr 16, 2025, 12:05 PM

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No phosphex bomb for the inductii?

vital lodge Apr 16, 2025, 12:06 PM

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I forgot to add them

grand ibex Apr 16, 2025, 12:06 PM

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That's like half the reason to take 'em

vital lodge Apr 16, 2025, 12:07 PM

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grand ibex That's like half the reason to take 'em

Fixed

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How’s it look though @grand ibex

vital lodge Apr 16, 2025, 12:08 PM

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grand ibex That's like half the reason to take 'em

Also tbh I never use Inductii

grand ibex Apr 16, 2025, 12:08 PM

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Looks alright to me, but not having a dread does feel weird

vital lodge Apr 16, 2025, 12:09 PM

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grand ibex Looks alright to me, but not having a dread does feel weird

Same

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But I’m trying to stick to his theme

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Also 1k makes me feel weird

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Like Im missing something needed

grand ibex Apr 16, 2025, 12:13 PM

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vital lodge <@209741411791273984> Night Fighting happens in Zone Mortalis correct?

Actually I think it might, but only if your fighting NL terror assault lists

vital lodge Apr 16, 2025, 12:21 PM

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😞

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🤦‍♂️

vital lodge Apr 16, 2025, 12:21 PM

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grand ibex Actually I think it might, but only if your fighting NL terror assault lists

In that case just swap the Vexila for Nuncio Vox

void pier Apr 17, 2025, 6:47 AM

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I think vexilla still the best upgrade you can get on a tac squad

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10 points for no falling back off tyhe board, only fall back 1d6, and +1 combat res

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Outrageous

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++ ZM 1. Mortalis Assault Force Organisation Chart ++ [1000 Pts]

Expanded Army Lists

Allegiance

Rite of War

HQ [515 Pts]

Elites [150 Pts]

Troops [335 Pts]

HQ [300 Pts]

Troops [550 Pts]

HQ [330 Pts]

Troops [520 Pts]