Pretty much as title. Looking to have a mix of fluff and function, I've not played HH, but I've done my homework on the game and know the rules to an OK degree. Mostly though, just wanted to get some feedback on this list before I commit to anything, see if there's anything direly missing, may try it out on TTS first.
#Iron Hands - General - 3k - New player checking in on first list.
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fervent shore
I'm not too fond of Castellax in IH
I think Vorax are better
Gorgon armor is unnecessary on your iron father
I'd take a land raider for your morlocks
tranquil lily
The castellax are not worth their points. You can switch them out for vorax.
There is a distinct lack of mobility on this list. You have lots of great units but they will be foot slogging up the field waring las fire
fervent shore
Medusan immortals aren't very good as elites. You take them as troops in company of Bitter iron
tranquil lily
You could switch the leviathan for a contempt or or two
fervent shore
Your gorgons I'm not fond of. Slow without a land raider. And nothing to alleviate the WS 4
Vexillas are unnecessary on gorgons
tranquil lily
Maybe switch the gorgons for a veteran squad with Melee weapons?
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Only 3 line units is risky. I'd try to get a 4th
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Maybe switch the gorgons for a veteran squad with Melee weapons?
With how many slots are being used, I don't think the list can afford it
tranquil lily
I would add some recon marines as a cheap line unit
fervent shore
You'd still have the speed problem that Gorgons have except now you also can't get a land raider without using up a HS slot
Recons with nemesis bolters are very fun, and also very good
tranquil lily
You could Switch the leviathan for a land raider
fervent shore
Dual melee leviathan is awful
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Vexillas are unnecessary on gorgons
the Vexillas were really only there because because I wasn't sure how to fill 40~ points. As far as them being WS4, I had seen someone say that generally taking Graviton Shredders to concuss the enemy tended help with that
fervent shore
Give him a ranged weapon
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the Vexillas were really only there because because I wasn't sure how to fill 40...
Ehh it's unreliable
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And I thought I had given the leviathan a melta cannon and then a siege drill
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Also there are other spaces to fill those 40 points such as weapon upgrades
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And I thought I had given the leviathan a melta cannon and then a siege drill
Ahh I didn't notice
In that case, either swap it for a storm cannon or put him in a drop pod
tranquil lily
Yeah, I would either give the leviathan dual storm cannons got help with range
fervent shore
Leviathans are very slow and can be kitted easily, which both options I mentioned can fix
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gotcha
The medusan immortals I fully just forgot to move to troop slot
since I did list Company of bitter Iron as rite of war
fervent shore
Anyways, gorgons
Way I see it, you have two options with them
Either go for the gorgon flashbang by taking a warmonger
Or get a gorgon chaplain so that they can hit things well
Or just don't take them like I do
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what does the warmonger do for them?
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Agree with the commentary above, the gorgon s and immortals are chewing up your points for slow units with mediocre output. I'd be looking at pivoting to company of bitter iron in general and turn those breachers into immortals too. Immortals in CoBI are king, outside CoBI are.... Eh
You've got a bunch of unnecessary upgrades on stuff. If you culled them down, you'd probs be able to fit another unit in
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what does the warmonger do for them?
Deep strike
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and to be honest, they are there because I think they are cool as hell, I'll probably keep at least one squad
just for fluff
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And deep striking gorgons is good because it means you can allocate wounds via the warmongers teleport and via any interceptors
Which
Can let you activate the gorgon flash thingy
AND deep striking can get you into range of multiple units so that you can blind those multiple units
fallen hatch
I really like the praevian and castellax. They're not good but they're cool. Great vibes, very IH
fervent shore
The vibes are good. But I can't deny the power of the bug robot
Also helps that they don't need cybertheurgy and high order buffs like Castellax do
Just get a cortex controllers near em so that you can control who they shoot/charge and they're fine
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I am not super attached to either automaton over the other, I just wanted to bring some cybernetica models for the fluff
If bug bots are better, then bugs it is
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Anoda win for the Vorax regime
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my thought is that it's not worth the points to swap to the radgun, yes or no?
For the Vorax I mean
fervent shore
Lightning guns are fine
fallen hatch
Really consider a raider for your IF/morlocks. If the gorgons get a warmonger then happy days, but the IF needs a delivery system too
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Took your guys' advice, swapped some stuff around.
Dropped a gorgon squad, gave the other one Warmonger for Deepstrike Flashbang
Gave Iron Father and Morlocks a land raider
Swapped Castellax for Vorax
Swapped Volkite for bolters on breachers (for points)
Changed Leviathan Dreadnought for 2nd, less souped up Sicaran Omega (for points)
Added Recon Squad with Nemesis Bolters
Took artificer armor off of Immortals Sgt (for points)