2K Creeping Death list

[eager geode]

<@&877303590690111508> looking for feedback on this list.

++ Crusade Force Organisation Chart (LA - XIV: Death Guard) [2,000Pts] ++

• Expanded Army Lists +

Expanded Army List Profiles:: Exemplary Units On, Legacy Units On

• Allegiance: +

Allegiance: Traitor

XIV: Death Guard

• Rite of War: +

Rite of War: Creeping Death (DG)

• HQ: +

Calas Typhon [565Pts]: Warlord
. Calas Typhon: Cataphractii Terminator Armour, Psychic Powers
. Deathshroud Terminator Squad: Deathshroud, Deathshroud, Deathshroud, Deathshroud, Deathshroud
. . Legion standard & power weapon
. . . Power Weapon: Power Sword

Centurion [115Pts]
. Siege Breaker: Artificer Armour, Nemesis Bolter
. . Bolt Pistol
. . Chainsword: Chainsword
. Siege Breaker

• Elites: +

Apothecarion Detachment [55Pts]
. Apothecary: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol
. . Chainsword: Chainsword

Contemptor Dreadnought Talon [180Pts]
. Contemptor Dreadnought: Combi-Bolter, Gravis Melta Cannon, Gravis Power Fist with in-built ranged weapon

Terminator Cataphractii Squad [225Pts]
. Cataphractii: Combi-Bolter, Power Fist
. Cataphractii: Combi-Bolter, Power Fist
. Cataphractii: Combi-Bolter, Power Fist
. Cataphractii Sergeant: Combi-Bolter, Grenade Harness
. . Power Weapon: Power Scythe
. Cataphractii w/Heavy Weapon (1 in 5): Heavy Alchem Flamer, Power Fist

• Troops: +

Tactical Squad [285Pts]
. Legion Tactical Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Chain Bayonet, Power Fist, Toxin Bombs
. 18x Legionaries (collective): 18x Bolt Pistol, 18x Bolter, 18x Chain Bayonet
. Legionary w/ Options:: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Chain Bayonet, Legion Vexilla

Tactical Squad [130Pts]
. Legion Tactical Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Chain Bayonet
. 8x Legionaries (collective): 8x Bolt Pistol, 8x Bolter, 8x Chain Bayonet
. Legionary w/ Options:: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Chain Bayonet

Tactical Squad [130Pts]
. Legion Tactical Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Chain Bayonet
. 8x Legionaries (collective): 8x Bolt Pistol, 8x Bolter, 8x Chain Bayonet
. Legionary w/ Options:: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Chain Bayonet

• Heavy Support: +

Heavy Support Squad [145Pts]: Autocannon
. Legion Support Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol
. 3x Legionaries (collective): 3x Bolt Pistol
. Legionary w/ Options: Augury Scanner, Bolt Pistol

Heavy Support Squad [170Pts]: Lascannon
. Legion Support Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol
. 3x Legionaries (collective): 3x Bolt Pistol
. Legionary w/ Options: Augury Scanner, Bolt Pistol

++ Total: [2,000Pts] ++

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[pliant shadow]

I'd exchange the Cataphractii for Grave Wardens have Typhon join those instead. Split the Deathshrouds up into 2 groups. With Typhon in the unit they lose all the benefits of being in Tartaros armour.

[steady falcon]

Having a unit with line that won’t die is probably worth it but I’d swap cats for wardens every day

[pliant shadow]

3 Line units should be enough for 2k points

[eager geode]

I don’t have grave wardens, so what would be another good option as retinue for Typhon?

[pliant shadow]

A Cataphractii Command Squad

That way you also keep that 4th Line unit

[eager geode]

What weapons tho?

[pliant shadow]

Thunder Hammers

Wham

[eager geode]

Would power fists work?

[pliant shadow]

Technically, sure

Just that hammers are better

[eager geode]

I just don’t want to spend any more money on resin

[pliant shadow]

Understandable

[eager geode]

Anyway thanks for the help

[pliant shadow]

Just for reference, the hammer is +5ppm and gives the user Brutal (2) compared to the Fist

Which is awesome

[silver turtle]

Looks good, did you magnetize the regular terminators?

[eager geode]

They’re not built yet, but I’m gonna try!

[silver turtle]

Oh even better!. I used 2mm by 1mm magnets for mine but be careful on the torsos there's a fine line between seating the magnet properly and a hole to the hollow center (if you do this just put two or three together and put them in)

The reason I ask is because personally I like a power weapon on the alchem flamer helps to not put too much into one line soldier. But also if you ever run reaping swap most fists to mauls and pick up rad grenades. You'll instant death anything t4 or below on the charge at initiative

[eager geode]

I found this video https://youtu.be/xlGaVforFKc

I think it works pretty well for me but I don’t have enough shoulder pads

[silver turtle]

I'd set aside some lightning claws and prioritize combi bolters/ flamers/ fists/ offhand claws. Dual claws aren't ideal on cataphractii especially not for a whole squad. I'd rather run those on Tartaros where they can run and sweep

[eager geode]

Yes, but my problem is there aren’t enough shoulder pads in the kit for all of the weapons

[silver turtle]

You should have enough for two sets of arms for each if it's the plastic kit

[eager geode]

I’m looking at the sprue and there’s only enough for one set of arms

[silver turtle]

There's 20 shoulder pads just two different styles. 5 terminators on the sprue though

[eager geode]

The shoulder pads come in two pieces

[silver turtle]

Ahhh, well I didn't do that 😅

[eager geode]

Ah, I see why there was confusion

[silver turtle]

Alternatively there are places to pick up sets if 5 pairs for between 6-8 dollars

[eager geode]

👍

[silver turtle]

But yeah biggest thing I'd problem change is swap to a power weapon on the flamer and upgrade one or two to chairlifts. Your biggest challenge will be anything with a flare shield. Everything else should go down relatively easy

[young widget]

sure they help those in cat armour to climb stairs faster,but chainfists should be more efficient in combat🔥

[young widget]

do you have access to a 3D-Printer?

[steady falcon]

Chairlifts best antitank in the game imo

[eager geode]

No

But I found some cheap shoulder pads on Etsy

[eager geode]

<@&877303590690111508> https://pastebin.com/9wxR0v5P

Here’s the improved list

The options on the tac marines and siege breaker may seem a bit weird, but it’s only because I’m trying to keep it WSYWG

[hasty bridge]

I magnetised my cata termies and what I did was gluing the shoulder pads to the torsos, not to the arms

[eager geode]

Smart

[silver turtle]

Have you had luck with a 20 man blob?

[eager geode]

Funny thing, I haven’t played yet

I’m still building and painting

I’ve heard it works well with the apothecary

[silver turtle]

I was curious cause I normally run 2-3 15 man squads with apothecaries

[eager geode]

Maybe I’ll try 2 15 man w/ apothecaries and one ten man squad

[silver turtle]

It depends on which missions ur playing and what your meta Is like. If there's lots of s8+ or you play mostly missions based on wiping your opponent the benefits are negligible

[eager geode]

The benefits of apothecaries or squad sizes?

[steady falcon]

A 20 man tactical with an apothecary is always going to be decent just spread them out a bit for blast. It’s a tough line unit to deal with on an objective obviously s8+ and insta kills it and no fnp but it’s not an ideal candidate to be shot at with that type of weapon. Most people would rather keep those shots for something else.

[eager geode]

I see

[proud skiff]

15 man feels easier to jostle into positions on the board but 20 is nice too for the sheer threat of bolter shots