#Late Heresy EC legion. 4K

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vast grove
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Ok. So here is a list that I've messed around with for some late Heresy chaos shenanigans based around the possibility of getting a Cerberus and using a Decimator that just got rules

Herald lives with the Sunkillers
Praevian lives with the Decimator (listed as a dreadnaught with same points value, not available on my app yet).
Tech marine lives with the Cerberus

...might be an army with deep striking, or maybe they just run across the board.

Feedback into whether it's a balanced list whilst also being fluffy

📎 Filthy_Traitor_List_4000pts.pdf
urban grove
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Phoenix Guard aren't really all that great, a normal squad would be better & can actually kill things

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Why put a Herald with the sunkillers, just to make then line?

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Also i would make the assault marine squads 15 instead of 10. They are struggle to kill anything other than tacs unless the outnumber what they are fighting

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I'd say a chappy would be better with the Palatine instead of the Herald with the Sunkillers

vast grove
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Because they tend to be targets of shooting

urban grove
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Eh, sunkillers are fine without fearless honestly

kindred furnace
urban grove
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Meh

kindred furnace
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at the very least makes them scoring

urban grove
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A chappy with the blades would be more effective than a Herald with them

kindred furnace
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oh chaplain with the palatines

vast grove
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If I had a fourth slot I usually would put a chaplain with the blades

urban grove
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& if you want something sitting on a objective, you could always run a tac squad

kindred furnace
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not with the sunkillers lmao

urban grove
kindred furnace
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also... why the breachers?

vast grove
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They're cool.

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But

kindred furnace
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yknow what go for it

vast grove
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Maybe not quite right for the list

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This list

kindred furnace
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do they have to have grav? id honestly recommend melta

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also if youve got 10 sun killers (imo 8 is a better number, as 10 is usually overkill on anything short of a spartan, and well why are you shooting sun killers at a spartan)

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8 kills a land raider, pretty sure still ohkos a contemptor, and while a leviathan will live past a round thats something your sky hunters can finish

urban grove
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2 units of assault marine squads at 15 would be better than 3 squads of 10

kindred furnace
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^

urban grove
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& give the sgt's art armor

kindred furnace
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can really recommend 2x15 assaults with apoth, bullies most ws4 off of the board

vast grove
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That's good to know

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Breachers are probably supporting the praevian and daemon engine.

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I think

kindred furnace
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theyre too slow to support is the problem

vast grove
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Oh yes they don't run

kindred furnace
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breachers are weirdly not durable enough to warrant their higher points cost, so unless you REALLY need slightly more durable tacticals (and idk why you would, point per durability theyre worse then tacticals) so unless youre going full theming idk why youd run them

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that said I still plan on making 2x15 for ZM exclusively for said theming

vast grove
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They are cool. I need to try them in ZM

kindred furnace
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the problem is theyre not that much better in ZM

vast grove
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Ha ha. Poor breachers

kindred furnace
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if anything heavy giving them -1" to reaction movement makes them even worse

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theyre cool, but sadly thats as far as they go

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also ZM disgustingly favors jump pack 3ce as I found out a few days ago

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+1 to wound sonic lances are just... disgusting

vast grove
kindred furnace
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iirc template weapons get +1 to wound

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I do belive its all

vast grove
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Ha ha

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Amazing

kindred furnace
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remeber that +1 doesnt make you rend on 5s

vast grove
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How's your experience with the lances in general?

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Is it worth giving it to the Phoenix terminators?

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And other units that already have characters with a surgical augment?

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Here's an amended version.

  • herald is now flying with palatine blades
  • breachers are gone in exchange for 15 man assault squads with apothecaries

So my main question with this now is surgical augments on all my units. Is it worth it or should I cut some for a squad of tacticals?

kindred furnace
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wait sonic lances not phonenix power lances

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sonic lances are a good upgrade if you already have the shreiker on a character, but on squads of 5-6 id skip on it