Ultramarines 2k (not sure how to finish my list!)

[glass kestrel]

I don't really know what I'm doing lole

++HQ++
Siege Breaker w/ boarding shield (120pts)

Librarian w/ force sword and Telepathy discipline (105pts)

++Elites++
Castra Ferrum Dreadnought w/ Lascannon and Fist w/ Heavy Flamer (150pts)

Contemptor Dreadnought w/ Multi Melta and Fist w/ Graviton Gun (195pts)

5 Fulmentarus w/ power fist and 4 power swords (295pts)

++Troops++
10 Tactical Marines w/ Chain Bayonets (Nuncio Vox, Vexilla, Power Fist and AA for sarge) (163pts)

10 Tactical Marines (Nuncio Vox, Vexilla, Power Sword + Volkite Serpenta and AA for sarge) (145 pts)

10 Inductii w/ 2 Melta guns + Rhino w/ Multi Melta (195pts)

++Fast Attack++
2 Proteus Land Speeders w/ double graviton guns (170pts)

++Heavy Support++
10 Heavy Support Marines w/ Missile Launchers + augury scanner (235pts)

Sicaran Battle Tank w/ Lascannon Sponsors (200pts)

Total 1973pts

Some of it is stuff I already have built and so I wanna use, (pic related) but the rest I'm kinda just thinking of stuff that is cool

Not really sure what I should be adding to make it a balanced force?

Ultramarines 2k (not sure how to finish my list!)

Castra Ferrum dreadnought and sicaran are also painted/half painted

[cold shoal]

oh dear god this list

I've gotta be honest this feels like a "warn your opponents before fighting this" tier of list

telepathy librarian, fulmenitarus, 2 dreads, anti dread out the ass

the only thing that can counter this list is raven guard mor deythan spam, and that counters EVERYONE

[glass kestrel]

Is it that bad lmao

I can tone it down

[cold shoal]

I wish I could tell you how lol, but im gonna be honest id probably tone it down a notch

[glass kestrel]

I can drop the contemptor

[cold shoal]

ultras just suffer from taking a thematic list and then just kinda breaking the game with it

[glass kestrel]

it's not built hhh

[cold shoal]

that would actually help a lot but thats a big ask

because with no real anvil to this list to anchor it down its gonna be an uphil battle

[glass kestrel]

I also wasn't really set on the melta+fist combo, just was something that seemed simple

[glass kestrel]

What would you swap it for?

[cold shoal]

ive got to think on it for a bit

[cold shoal]

melta fist is the best anti dread combo

[glass kestrel]

i see i see

but since ive already got other anti dread stuff maybe i should do something else?

kinda wanna do conversion beamer...

[cold shoal]

a c beam predator is cool

while its more ap2 its more then capable of being mitigated by just... moving closer

[glass kestrel]

true hhh

might do somethin like that

im probably just overthinking things

thanks for the help!

[cold shoal]

dw mate

I'm just guessing youre not trying to stomp here and just play for narrative, but sadly ultramarines suffer from just stomping the competition even if you bring a narrative list

[zealous crypt]

I like this list. If you were trying to bring the power down, just swapping out the Fulmentarus would probably be just fine.

The anti-dread in this list isn't crazy. Except for the Fulmentarus which are very good but can be countered, especially as a 5 man. Though I try to limit my use of them to 5 maximum at 3k. Though I don't bring them to the majority of games, because they can be a feels bad kind of unit.

On a separate note, that is a really nice looking army.

[cold shoal]

As someone who never fought them but fears them incredibly, how are fulmenitaurs countered? I honestly can't figure it out on paper

[zealous crypt]

The worst missiles are the Str 8 AP2 variant, but they're only 24 inch range and 1 shot each.

Scorpius work incredibly well, as does fast moving anti-elite. Try and get angles on them where they can't return fire. They're also not great in melee, though eating overwatch isn't nice.

Definitely not easily countered, but it can be done. At 2k I think you may struggle more, but at 3k it's a bit easier.

[glass kestrel]

I'm not dropping them because they're 300pts of stuff I already have painted haha

++HQ++
Siege Breaker w/ Boarding Shield, Legatine Axe and Volkite Charger (127pts)

Librarian w/ Force Sword and Telepathy discipline (105pts)

++Elites++
Castra Ferrum Dreadnought w/ Lascannon and Fist w/ Heavy Flamer (150pts)

Castra Ferrum Dreadnought w/ Bolt Cannon and Fist w/ Combi Bolter (125pts)

5 Fulmentarus w/ power fist and 4 power swords (295pts)

++Troops++
10 Tactical Marines w/ Chain Bayonets (Nuncio Vox, Vexilla, Power Fist and AA for sarge) (163pts)

10 Tactical Marines (Nuncio Vox, Vexilla, Power Sword + Volkite Serpenta and AA for sarge) (145 pts)

10 Inductii w/ 2 Melta guns + Rhino w/ Dozer Blade (170pts)

++Heavy Support++
10 Heavy Support Marines w/ Missile Launchers + augury scanner (235pts)

2 Predators with Conversion Beam Cannons and Lascannon Sponsons (295pts)

Sicaran Battle Tank w/ Heavy Bolter Sponsors (190pts)

Total 2000pts

This is currently where I'm at with the list

[cold shoal]

yeah I like this list a LOT more