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hushed garnet Jan 26, 2023, 11:29 PM

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Idea is to have recons laying down pinning shots while argel tal runs up the board with GV and mhara gal. Main concern is anti-tank and where to grow from here. I was thinking of adding a praevain to add darkfjre castellax

Any help is very much appreciated!

++ Crusade Force Organisation Chart (LA - XVII: Word Bearers) [1,495Pts] ++

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Allegiance: +

XVII: Word Bearers

Allegiance: Traitor

Rite of War: +

Rite of War: Recon Company

HQ: +

Argel Tal [240Pts]: Warlord

Elites: +

Gal Vorbak Squad [580Pts]: 10x Dark Brethren, 2x Power Fist

Mhara Gal Dreadnought [240Pts]: Tainted claw with in-built Boltspitter, Warpfire Cannon

Troops: +

Reconnaissance Squad [145Pts]
. Legion Recon Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter
. Recon Legionary: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter
. Recon Legionary: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter
. Recon Legionary: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter, Nuncio-Vox
. Recon Legionary: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter

++ Total: [1,495Pts] ++

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opal lark Jan 27, 2023, 1:53 AM

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Note that 1/2 of your points are in a single unit

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And do note that using 10 GV in a 1500pt game is pretty rude

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You’ve got a melee deathstar to end all melee deathstars (at least at 1500), a super dread, and the rest snipers. This list is very skewed IMO.

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Who are you playing against? Ultimate suzerain spammer supreme? That’d justify the list pretty well

hushed garnet Jan 27, 2023, 2:14 AM

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opal lark Who are you playing against? Ultimate suzerain spammer supreme? That’d justify t...

Have a game against dark angels not sure what he's bringing. I'm pretty new to list building in HH so wasn't sure what was too much

opal lark Jan 27, 2023, 2:15 AM

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That’s tough since DA are a pretty hard counter to GV

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I’d say reduce your GV to maybe 6 or 7, and replace 2 of your recon squads with tacticals in rhinos if you have them. If you can, take a lascannon squad.

hushed garnet Jan 27, 2023, 2:18 AM

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opal lark I’d say reduce your GV to maybe 6 or 7, and replace 2 of your recon squads with ...

So would running that many recons not be advised?

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Just trying to get an idea what a "typical" list is while adding in all the word bearer toys

opal lark Jan 27, 2023, 2:19 AM

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Running that much pinning at 1.5k is just a bit of a dick move.

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It’s annoying to deal with is all

hushed garnet Jan 27, 2023, 2:19 AM

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Gotcha

opal lark Jan 27, 2023, 2:19 AM

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I’d say switch it up so nobody gets pressed

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Really what you want to do is bring a fun, fluffy, and balanced list that everyone can have fun with

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So limit snipers elites etc and build your army around what’s gonna be fun to play with and against.

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I’ve got a fists army. You won’t see me running around with 80 phalanx warders in SG, because that’s just an awful thing to do to another human being

hushed garnet Jan 27, 2023, 2:21 AM

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I'm new to HH so not sure how actually op that is lol but I get the idea

opal lark Jan 27, 2023, 2:22 AM

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Very

hushed garnet Jan 27, 2023, 2:22 AM

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I was actually worried that it would be weak lol since the recons are just 5 +3 W1 and the list really lacks anything for vechiles

opal lark Jan 27, 2023, 2:23 AM

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If someone runs a ton of dreads you might have problems

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But at 1.5k snipers are king and GV rip through everything short of terminator elites

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Argel Tal makes them pretty fire

hushed garnet Jan 27, 2023, 2:24 AM

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Gotcha, yeah it seems alot of people like to run termies and dreads so I'd figure my lack of AP 2 besides snipers would balance I guess?

opal lark Jan 27, 2023, 2:25 AM

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I suppose? GV are fine against terminators due to having T5

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Actually terrifying most of the time

hushed garnet Jan 27, 2023, 2:26 AM

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Yeah ill Reduce the snipers and GV for larger point values

opal lark Jan 27, 2023, 2:27 AM

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Yeah. At 3k you can get away with running this list + other stuff but at 1.5k I’d essentially reduce both by half in favor of bringing other things

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Tac squads in rhinos are fantastic

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Also for getting through 2+ saves, you could bring a tac support squad of meltas or plasma, preferably in a rhino

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I’d take the meltas

hushed garnet Jan 27, 2023, 2:30 AM

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Are meltas better than the warpfire blasters WB get?

opal lark Jan 27, 2023, 2:31 AM

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What are the stats on warpfire blasters?

hushed garnet Jan 27, 2023, 2:31 AM

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Same as plasma but -1 str, assualt 2 and no gets hot

opal lark Jan 27, 2023, 2:32 AM

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Meltas are mathematically equal in terms of damage but are also good against vehicles— they just need to get close.

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Meltas are swingier though— the blasters will be more consistent

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If you want just anti terminator fire, take the warpfire blasters. If you want anti vehicle and anti terminator at the cost of consistency, take the meltas.

hushed garnet Jan 27, 2023, 2:33 AM

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Gotcha

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What are the thoughts on bringing a preavein to introduce castellax into the list?

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Was thinking they're darkfire would be good antitank

opal lark Jan 27, 2023, 2:33 AM

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Lemme check that rq

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It’s fine for dealing with tanks and terminators

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But it’s 115 points for 2 shots

hushed garnet Jan 27, 2023, 2:37 AM

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Yeah it seems like the meltas or Las would be better

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But I just really like the look of them lol

opal lark Jan 27, 2023, 2:37 AM

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Meltas in a rhino is extremely effective

opal lark Jan 27, 2023, 2:37 AM

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hushed garnet But I just really like the look of them lol

They look great I’ll admit

hushed garnet Jan 27, 2023, 2:41 AM

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opal lark They look great I’ll admit

Yee, thanks for the help m8 very new to the scene so I really appreciate the feedback and getting an idea on what's acceptable at certain levels

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