#1500 Campaign List Slow Grow

48 messages · Page 1 of 1 (latest)

hushed garnet
#

Idea is to have recons laying down pinning shots while argel tal runs up the board with GV and mhara gal. Main concern is anti-tank and where to grow from here. I was thinking of adding a praevain to add darkfjre castellax

Any help is very much appreciated!

++ Crusade Force Organisation Chart (LA - XVII: Word Bearers) [1,495Pts] ++

  • Expanded Army Lists +

Expanded Army List Profiles:: Exemplary Units On, Legacy Units On

  • Allegiance: +

    XVII: Word Bearers

Allegiance: Traitor

  • Rite of War: +

Rite of War: Recon Company

  • HQ: +

Argel Tal [240Pts]: Warlord

  • Elites: +

Gal Vorbak Squad [580Pts]: 10x Dark Brethren, 2x Power Fist

Mhara Gal Dreadnought [240Pts]: Tainted claw with in-built Boltspitter, Warpfire Cannon

  • Troops: +

Reconnaissance Squad [145Pts]
. Legion Recon Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter
. Recon Legionary: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter
. Recon Legionary: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter
. Recon Legionary: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter, Nuncio-Vox
. Recon Legionary: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter

Reconnaissance Squad [145Pts]
. Legion Recon Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter
. Recon Legionary: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter
. Recon Legionary: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter
. Recon Legionary: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter, Nuncio-Vox
. Recon Legionary: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter

Reconnaissance Squad [145Pts]
. Legion Recon Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter
. Recon Legionary: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter
. Recon Legionary: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter
. Recon Legionary: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter, Nuncio-Vox
. Recon Legionary: Bolt Pistol, Nemesis Bolter

++ Total: [1,495Pts] ++

Created with BattleScribe (https://battlescribe.net)

opal lark
#

Note that 1/2 of your points are in a single unit

#

And do note that using 10 GV in a 1500pt game is pretty rude

#

You’ve got a melee deathstar to end all melee deathstars (at least at 1500), a super dread, and the rest snipers. This list is very skewed IMO.

#

Who are you playing against? Ultimate suzerain spammer supreme? That’d justify the list pretty well

hushed garnet
opal lark
#

That’s tough since DA are a pretty hard counter to GV

#

I’d say reduce your GV to maybe 6 or 7, and replace 2 of your recon squads with tacticals in rhinos if you have them. If you can, take a lascannon squad.

hushed garnet
#

Just trying to get an idea what a "typical" list is while adding in all the word bearer toys

opal lark
#

Running that much pinning at 1.5k is just a bit of a dick move.

#

It’s annoying to deal with is all

hushed garnet
#

Gotcha

opal lark
#

I’d say switch it up so nobody gets pressed

#

Really what you want to do is bring a fun, fluffy, and balanced list that everyone can have fun with

#

So limit snipers elites etc and build your army around what’s gonna be fun to play with and against.

#

I’ve got a fists army. You won’t see me running around with 80 phalanx warders in SG, because that’s just an awful thing to do to another human being

hushed garnet
#

I'm new to HH so not sure how actually op that is lol but I get the idea

opal lark
#

Very

hushed garnet
#

I was actually worried that it would be weak lol since the recons are just 5 +3 W1 and the list really lacks anything for vechiles

opal lark
#

If someone runs a ton of dreads you might have problems

#

But at 1.5k snipers are king and GV rip through everything short of terminator elites

#

Argel Tal makes them pretty fire

hushed garnet
#

Gotcha, yeah it seems alot of people like to run termies and dreads so I'd figure my lack of AP 2 besides snipers would balance I guess?

opal lark
#

I suppose? GV are fine against terminators due to having T5

#

Actually terrifying most of the time

hushed garnet
#

Yeah ill Reduce the snipers and GV for larger point values

opal lark
#

Yeah. At 3k you can get away with running this list + other stuff but at 1.5k I’d essentially reduce both by half in favor of bringing other things

#

Tac squads in rhinos are fantastic

#

Also for getting through 2+ saves, you could bring a tac support squad of meltas or plasma, preferably in a rhino

#

I’d take the meltas

hushed garnet
#

Are meltas better than the warpfire blasters WB get?

opal lark
#

What are the stats on warpfire blasters?

hushed garnet
#

Same as plasma but -1 str, assualt 2 and no gets hot

opal lark
#

Meltas are mathematically equal in terms of damage but are also good against vehicles— they just need to get close.

#

Meltas are swingier though— the blasters will be more consistent

#

If you want just anti terminator fire, take the warpfire blasters. If you want anti vehicle and anti terminator at the cost of consistency, take the meltas.

hushed garnet
#

Gotcha

#

What are the thoughts on bringing a preavein to introduce castellax into the list?

#

Was thinking they're darkfire would be good antitank

opal lark
#

Lemme check that rq

#

It’s fine for dealing with tanks and terminators

#

But it’s 115 points for 2 shots

hushed garnet
#

Yeah it seems like the meltas or Las would be better

#

But I just really like the look of them lol

opal lark
#

Meltas in a rhino is extremely effective

opal lark
hushed garnet