#Word Bearers 1k Pt ZM List Help

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half umbra
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Hi I made a ZM list for an upcoming 1k point game with some of the models I have/want to field but 1k points was pretty tight and I wasn't sure how effective it would be. (My main hangup is that I wanted to run a squad of vets, a squad of flamer termies, and a double flamer dreadnought, but dont have the points for anything else) Do you think I should drop the delegatus to forgo pride of the legion and just take a squad of despoilers? I probably dont need the delegatus but MotL is also my only way to take vets, terminators, and a dreadnought in ZM.

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List: (Pride of the Legion Row)
HQ:
Pyromancer Librarian with Force Axe and Lightning Claw, Corrupted (155 Pts) [155 Pts]
Delegatus in Artificer Armor with Tainted Blade, Corrupted (135 Pts) [290 Pts]
Elites:
10x Veteran Squad, 8x shotguns, 2x grav guns, 10x charnabral swords, artificer armor, vexilla,, corrupted (231 Pts) [521 Pts]
5x Cataphractii Terminators, 1x Heavy Flamer, 4x Combi-Flamers, 3x Chainfists, 1x Powerfist, 1x Tainted Blade, Grenade Harness, Corrupted (295 Pts) [816 Pts]
1 x Castraferrum Dreadnought, 2x Flamestorm Cannon, Havoc Launchers (165 Pts) [981 Pts]

red falcon
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With how compact your list is, I'm not sure how much work you're gonna get out of Corrupted. The terms don't really take negatives to morale and the Vets are gonna have a Delegatus with em, so your guys aren't running away anyway.

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I also think that you may be happier with plain ol power weapons instead of the tainted blades - the 6+ for MS isn't enough to rely on, and at that budget you may as well get a thunder hammer where you can.

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Are you married to Cataphractii? Without the ability to Run its gonna take em a while to get anywhere. A pair of lightning claws also might be nice to keep big speedbump mobs of Tacs honest.

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Without Return Fire around, I'll actually recommend warpfire guns on Vets for once, but if grav is what you wanna run then go for it.

I'm also a little concerned about the dread having no CCW - it's just asking to get bullied by something that doesn't care about templates like terminators or another dread.

Otherwise, yeah, there's def a lot of high-S templates running around. Lots of opportunities to go "fwooosh" and "agggh!"

half umbra
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i need the corrupted keyword on my warlord for the WLT but other than that suppose I dont need it as long as i can hit the other guys dreadnought with my terminators

red falcon
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ICs with corrupt may join units without - it's just the other way around that gets sticky

half umbra
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tha tainted blade on the delegatus was because he couldnt take a paragon

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so it would be my only real way of trying to fight off enemy dreads / characters in melee

red falcon
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A thunder hammer is gonna be considerably more. reliable, since they flat-out ID enemy characters rather than relying on rolling the six

half umbra
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ah i dont have a thunderhammer though, and i like the thought of hitting at intiiative

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plus he should have enough attacks base that he gets at least 1 six per fight i hope

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but hmm yeah, getting rid of corrupted definitely frees a lot of points that i can use for a despoiler squad

red falcon
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WB can be a bit more creative with their weapons than most Legions, so you could just go with one of the big, fuckoff maces from fantasy or something rather than competing with everybody else trying to get thammers

half umbra
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i suppose i wouldnt mind switching out the tainted blade on the delegatus to a charn though, charns are pretty good against everything, id keep it on the terminator sergeant as he has a fair chance to proc it and its the same price as a powerfist anyway

half umbra
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HQ:
Cataphractii Pyromancer Librarian with Force Axe and Lightning Claw (130 Pts)
Delegatus in Artificer Armor with Charnabral Saber (95 Pts) [225 Pts] (Warlord: Iconoclast)
Elites:
10x Veteran Squad, 8x Shotguns, 2x Warpfire Blasters, 10x Charnabral Sabers, Artificer Armor, Vexilla (206 Pts) [431 Pts]
5x Cataphractii Terminators, 1x Heavy Flamer, 4x Combi-Flamers, 4x Power Fists, 1x Tainted Blade, Grenade Harness (255 Pts) [686 Pts]
1x Castraferrum Dreadnought, 2x Flamestorm Cannons (155 Pts) [841 Pts]
1x Apothecary, Charnabral Saber (55 Points) [896 Pts]
10x Despoilers (100 Pts) [996 Pts]

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I revised the list to get rid of corrupted altogether, the only way to fit an apothecary for the veterans and an extra squad of despoilers, however the despoilers are sadly rather lackluster with no upgrades

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I'll have to consider just having a default chainsword apothecary though

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the extra 10 points could do work buying artificer for the despoilers or a power axe / another charnabral

red falcon
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Could probably leave a couple Cataphracts on power weapons and add some upgrades to the despoilers

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I do think that you'll be happier with the extra bodies