3000pts Creeping Death (already submitted, cant change but comment anyway)

[edgy blaze]

MWW6: Death Guard
FoC: Crusade, 1 Primary detachment
Legion: Death Guard
Allegiance: Traitor
Rite of War: Creeping Death
Points: 3000
-PRIMARCH

Mortarion
Total: 425 pts

-HQ

Alchymus
-Alchymus upgrade (35 pts)
-Powerscythe (15 pts)
-Bolt pistol
-Toxin bombs
Total: 110 pts

Siege Breaker
-Siege Breaker upgrade (45 pts)
-Chainsword
Total: 105 pts

Primus Medicae
-Medicae upgrade (45 pts)
-Combi-Bolter
-Power Scythe
Total: 120pts

-ELITES

3x Apothecaries
-3x Artificer armor (30 pts)
-Bolt pistol
-Chainsword
Total: 165 pts

Veteran Squad
1 Veteran Sarge
-Artificer armor (10 pts)
-Toxin bombs (10 pts)
-Nemesis bolter (10 pts)
8 Veterans
-8x Nemesis bolter (80 pts)
1 Veteran /w Augury scanner
-Nemesis bolter (10 pts)
-Augury Scanner (10 pts)
Total: 335pts

4x Deathshroud Terminators
Total: 280pts

-TROOPS

Tactical Squad
1 Tactical sarge
-Artificer armor (10 pts)
-Power scythe (10 pts)
18 Tacticals
1 Tactical /w Vexilla
-Vexilla (10 pts)
Total: 230 pts

Tactical Squad
1 Tactical sarge
-Artificer armor (10 pts)
-Power scythe (10 pts)
-Toxin bombs (10 pts)
9 Tacticals
Total: 130 pts

Tactical Squad
1 Tactical sarge
-Artificer armor (10 pts)
-Toxin bombs (10 pts)
9 Tacticals
Total: 120 pts

-HEAVY SUPPORT

Deredeo Dreadnought Talon
1 Deredeo Dreadnought
-Anvilus Autocannon Battery
-Twin-linked heavy bolter
-Aiolos missile launcher (5 pts)

1 Deredeo Dreadnought
-Arachnus Heavy Lascannon Battery (20 pts)
-Twin-linked heavy bolter
-Aiolos missile launcher (5 pts)
Total: 440 pts

Heavy Support Squad
Squad weaponry: 10x Lascannon (100 pts)
1 Sarge
-Artificer armor (10 pts)
8 Marines
1 Marine /w Augury Scanner
-Augury Scanner (10 pts)
Total: 295

Heavy Support Squad
Squad weaponry: 10x Rocket Launchers (50 pts)
1 Sarge
-Artificer armor (10 pts)
8 Marines
1 Marine /w Augury Scanner
-Augury Scanner (10 pts)
Total: 245pt

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[blazing citrus]

Is Alchymus with the big tactical squad?

Vets with nemesis bolters feels like a waste of 2 wounds and ws5

I'd either go Recon Marines, so you have some more line, or Seekers if you care about bs5, infiltrate being on both squads

Also, a squad of 5 is usually enough for a pinning checks, i'd split them up

[edgy blaze]

yes

[edgy blaze]

its for more thematic reasons since its a campaign event, but yeah otherwise recons for minmaxing

[blazing citrus]

Is primus medicae for the deathshroud

[edgy blaze]

obviously

and morty

[blazing citrus]

Sure, but you're in a list feedback thread so i'm giving you min max list feedback

[edgy blaze]

and im responding to your feedback

[blazing citrus]

Aye aye yeah no trouble, looks good otherwise!

Not sure how deredeos work and what the good weapons are

[edgy blaze]

im using the aiolos on them mostly to snipe scoring units and lascannon squads from outta LoS to avoid return fire

Aiolos are S6 AP3

vets can snipe out the artificers and then Aiolos goes boom

the autocannon version is mostly AA role and the arachnus one is on tank killing duty with S10 lascannons

[pine horizon]

Yeah the vets seem like a weird call with nemesis bolters
Relentless doesn’t give you anything because DG can already move and shoot, ws5 is wasted and 2 wounds isn’t necessary with their range
Also I personally think missile launchers are a waste in this list, you already have a tonne of anti tank, volkite does better anti light vehicle and anti infantry by a mile so I’d go with that as you have no big infantry killer in this list

[edgy blaze]

the big infantry killer is my 20 strong tact with fleshbane bolters

[edgy blaze]

oh and morty

[fluid shell]

deredeos are sleeper picks, pretty good though actually

best weapons on them are plasma batteries or lascannon batteries

I personally prefer plasma batteries though, very good anti-vehicle pick, I find the autocannons and volkites pretty mediocre based on what they do, but I see the list already has a bunch of lasgun support with the las deredeo and heavy support squad

[pine horizon]

True but I think you will find that squad dying pretty quickly itself
Imo the alchymist is best used in a melee squad for the withering aura, get some poison 3+ lightning claws or something
Or mix it with Typhon to go to poison 2+

[edgy blaze]

You'd actually be surprised how durable these guys are. With morty on the board they're more or less stubborn and leadership 9. Not to mention they have 4+ FNP

But I've also seen them die to gets hot

[pine horizon]

That’s what I mean, not only are they gonna attract some attention due to being a big mob with a consul in them, but they’ll be taking extra damage from their own guns

Plus apart from the fnp, which is 5+ outside of objective markers, 4+ on them
They’re just 1 wound 3+ save guys, they’re gonna die en masse to any dedicated anti infantry

[blazing citrus]

remember, only 2 missions of the 6 actually have objectives on the table in the middleground where squads like tacticals fight