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candid bronze Sep 22, 2022, 4:38 PM

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++ Crusade Force Organisation Chart (LA - XIX: Raven Guard) [3,000Pts] ++

Expanded Army Lists +

Expanded Army List Profiles:: Exemplary Units On, Legacy Units On

Allegiance: +

XIX: Raven Guard

Allegiance: Loyalist

Rite of War: +

Rite of War

HQ: +

Centurion [131Pts]
. Moritat: Artificer Armour, Raven's Talon, Volkite Charger, 2x Volkite Serpenta
. Moritat

Centurion, Cataphractii [147Pts]
. Primus Medicae: Volkite Charger
. . Thunder Hammer: Thunder Hammer
. Primus Medicae

Praetor, Cataphractii [442Pts]: The Bane of Tyrants (Loyalist only), Warlord
. Command Squad, Cataphractii
. . Cataphractii Chosen: Thunder Hammer
. . . Minor Combi-Weapon: Minor Combi-Weapon - Volkite Charger
. . Cataphractii Chosen: Thunder Hammer
. . . Minor Combi-Weapon: Minor Combi-Weapon - Volkite Charger
. . Cataphractii Chosen: Thunder Hammer
. . . Minor Combi-Weapon: Minor Combi-Weapon - Volkite Charger
. . Cataphractii Chosen: Thunder Hammer
. . . Minor Combi-Weapon: Minor Combi-Weapon - Volkite Charger
. . Cataphractii Standard Bearer w/Melee Weapon: Thunder Hammer
. Legion Cataphractii Praetor: Thunder Hammer, Volkite Charger

Elites: +

Apothecarion Detachment [130Pts]
. Apothecary: Bolt Pistol, Power Armour, Warhawk Jump Pack
. . Chainsword: Chainsword
. . Minor Combi-Weapon: Minor Combi-Weapon - Volkite Charger
. Apothecary: Bolt Pistol, Power Armour, Warhawk Jump Pack
. . Chainsword: Chainsword
. . Minor Combi-Weapon: Minor Combi-Weapon - Volkite Charger

Contemptor Dreadnought Talon [440Pts]
. Contemptor Dreadnought: Gravis Lascannon, Havoc Launcher, Volkite Dual-Culverin
. Contemptor Dreadnought: Gravis Lascannon, Havoc Launcher, Volkite Dual-Culverin

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Mor Deythan Squad [325Pts]: 10x Chainsword, 10x Minor Combi-Weapon - Volkite Charger, 9x Mor Deythan

Mortalis Destroyer Squad [355Pts]
. 0) Destroyer Sergeant: Power Armour, Two Volkite Serpenta
. . Chainsword: Chainsword
. 8x 1) Destroyer w/2x Volkite Serpenta, Chainsword: 8x Chainsword, 8x Two Volkite Serpenta
. 2) Destroyer w/ Options: Augury Scanner, Chainsword, Two Volkite Serpenta

.+ Troops: +

Tactical Squad [130Pts]
. 0) Legion Tactical Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Minor Combi-Weapon - Volkite Charger, Power Armour
. 5x 1) Legionaries w/ Bolter, Bolt Pistol, Bayonet: 5x Bayonet, 5x Bolt Pistol, 5x Bolter
. 4x 1) Legionaries w/ Bolter, Bolt Pistol, Chainsword: 4x Bolt Pistol, 4x Bolter, 4x Chainsword

Fast Attack: +

Dark Furies [150Pts]: Chooser of the Slain, 4x Dark Furies

Heavy Support: +

Heavy Support Squad [170Pts]: Augury Scanner, 5x Bolt Pistol, Lascannon, Legion Support Sergeant, 4x Legionaries, Nuncio-Vox

Predator Squadron [170Pts]
. Predator: 2x Lascannons, Dozer Blade, Minor Combi-Weapon - Volkite Charger, Volkite Macro-Saker

++ Total: [3,000Pts] ++

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A couple points- trying to use as much Volkite as possible/reasonable with Lascannon AT, but less of it. This is intended to be a skew list, weak to vehicles. But not helpless. I'm not building for invincibility. The specific narrative is attacking traitor supply lines as it builds up to a siege. A short campaign against some death guard, over important resorce worlds

candid bronze Sep 22, 2022, 5:30 PM

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dense thicket Sep 22, 2022, 5:49 PM

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I’ve versed a command squad with combat shields + power axes

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They’re about as deadly as cataphractii with every guy having artificer armor + ability to take challenges

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Maybe consider taking that?

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Heavy support squad feels like a throw in. Unless you plan to use your PM with them, they seem alittle expensive for the point sink

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I would say give as many of your sgts artificer armor

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It’ll stop alot of AP 3 weapons

plush sluice Sep 22, 2022, 6:33 PM

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Well, you're playing for theme, so if any of the following contradicts your theme then please ignore it (and just ignore it if you feel like it, I'm hardly a list building guru):

your Dreads can't split fire, and the Volkite and las have totally different best targets, so you might want to swap to a double Las and double Volkite setup
where are your Apoths going, with the Furies?
one unit of 10 Furies might be better than 2 of 5; a) you can get a third Chooser, and b) 5 you might find surprisingly blunt
I get you're going for uber choom, but you might want to think about giving the Moritat at least one souped-up pistol, and/or a special weapon for the Destroyers
agree with anthony that I'm not quite sure what the Las HSS is going to accomplish; given the look of the list, maybe an infiltrating TSS with Meltaguns could fulfil the same role

candid bronze Sep 22, 2022, 6:37 PM

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Thanks for the suggestions!

The HSS were included in a more or less panic when I realized that the all Volkite version of the list had exactly zero anti-tank.

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Do you think that maybe a second predator would be better?

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The apothecaries were indeed intended for the dark Furies, so I can cut one out to free up some points

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Maybe a graviton gun on the destroyers?

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And then maybe replace the Mor Deythan with another Destroyer Squad to sell the destroyers theme more.

plush sluice Sep 22, 2022, 6:58 PM

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Second pred might be nice - again, I'd be tempted to give them lascannon turrets to match the sponsons but go theme (keep the combi weapon either way; it's defensive so can always pick a different target)

If you're not allergic to FW, a Sabre or two might also be a nice anti tank option

Grav gun on the Destroyers isn't a bad idea, although with dual serpentas they're an Infantry killing squad so the rad launcher might be a better fit (also very in character)

candid bronze Sep 22, 2022, 7:00 PM

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Oh yeah...

My main thing with the predators was that I thought the lascannon turret was discovered by the space wolves in the 36th millennium

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So, yeah, if it's lore friendly las-turrets would be better on the predators

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I wonder

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It might be fun to make the Mor Deythan into a 5 man tank hunter squad instead

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Maybe in a rhino for their own protection

plush sluice Sep 22, 2022, 7:07 PM

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candid bronze Oh yeah... My main thing with the predators was that I thought the lascannon tu...

Meh, things can be found, lost and re-found 🤣

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Melta turret is another option though, or the c-beam

candid bronze Sep 22, 2022, 7:16 PM

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I'll just do the lascannon turrets then.

And yeah, let's bring the Mor Deythan to 1x5 with combi-melta in a rhino that has a multi-melta on it. That's now up to enough tank hunting to deal with issues.

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