These two items refuse to do their job almost 90%of the time. I can throw either beside an npc and 90% of the time it does NOTHING, no damage, no suppression, no death, no stun.
On top of this, they are buggy when thrown. Half the time you cant tell which throwable you are using because your model holds it just out of veiw against your vest and there is no indication of what youre holding because you just press G to cycle through that grenade you have, you cant equip a specific one.