3D Printing Corner

[hollow crow]

There.

[errant sierra]

Fish?

[pure wyvern]

only 3D printed fish

[hollow crow]

Swedish are ok as well.

[pure wyvern]

I'm using Solid Edge right now and I'm really liking it

[hollow crow]

Coworker buddy was off today but that'll work in his favor, printed some more for him.

[pure wyvern]

I finally cooked up the stand, wondering if I should print it fancy or not

used solid edge to draw it. export the fancy one, suppress the features, export the simple one

might just go with full rectilinear 5% infill. will be plenty of support, just a tad more filament but print time is cut by 60% or so.

[hollow crow]

...

Wh... Why would you keep pouring?

[pure wyvern]

how does this happen?

[hollow crow]

Dunno. They said it was a brand new bottle.

[hollow crow]

TinkerCAD has this new sketch thing. Experimenting with it but I have to go to work. 😦

[pure wyvern]

It didn't have a sketch thing before?

[hollow crow]

Nope, you worked entirely with geometric shapes.

[tawdry lichen]

does this count? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH-Oa-hU1iQ

[iron hatch]

I feel like this channel outta be in the community section.

But I'm happy it exists.

[hollow crow]

Yeah I made it because we kept talking about printing stuff in the hardware room.

Trickle down tech discussions.

[iron hatch]

I used to find 3D printing stuff mainly in the off topic spot, I guess cause I normally dont drop down to pc-hardware.

[hollow crow]

This is new. Really either works, I just did this to get it out of the hardware room.

[iron hatch]

Figured lol.

Just printed a pot.

[hollow crow]

I need to start designing the right side of my sim rig. Procrastinating on that.

[olive marten]

what are yall using to do your model ?

[pure wyvern]

I started using Siemens solid edge. has a free version and is fully offline

no in browser shit, no cloud limitations

[olive marten]

i may give it a look

the more i use solidwork the more it drive me crazy

[pure wyvern]

depends on what you use it for. It's good if you know how to use it

I learned CAD on it

it would drive me crazy as well if I had to use it at work

[olive marten]

i have 8 ish years in sw but oh god solidwork is so unstable

[pure wyvern]

true

didn't use solid edge too extensively to tell you if it's more stable or not

but give it a try

[olive marten]

and its free so its great sinc emy sw school license expire soon

[pure wyvern]

just trying out the synchronous mode. Ordered is kinda how solidworks works

and synchronous is how the software I use at work works

kinda liking it. feels faster

[pure wyvern]

I had a supplier for aluminum profiles come over to my workplace today and I got the urge to convert my SV06 into a coreXY machine

[hollow crow]

Saw a thing and I was like "I can print that", and then see they give you the dimensions. So I'll be printing that.

[pure wyvern]

Hey, that's convenient

[hollow crow]

Holy crap. That's a 3d print.

[pure wyvern]

yoiu wanna tell me that everything here is printed?

[olive marten]

What type of printing

Also it look like it’s under a coat of primer and a coat of paint

[hollow crow]

Well yeah, resin models are typically painted.

[olive marten]

Could be powder printing too

[hollow crow]

I know it's resin because it was from a resin printing group for a specific brand of resin printers.

[pure wyvern]

fired up my 3D printer. got a request to do a small 3D printed crown which will be given to the person who brings the best waffles to work.

borrowed the model from printables, scaled it to 150% and let it rip

[hollow crow]

Bringing waffles to work absolutely deserves being gifted a crown.

[pure wyvern]

I probably would've made my own if I had a waffle maker at home

[hollow crow]

How to 3d print waffle maker

[olive marten]

i unlocked a new adestion helping technique

[pure wyvern]

What kind of printer is this? Looks rather industrial

[hollow crow]

Plate adhesion for your plate adhesion.

[olive marten]

its an anisoprint A4 (honestly its awful) never struglled that much with a printer

[hollow crow]

I don't like glass build plates, never have.

[olive marten]

i haev a maekshift not glass plate but it has isseu with temp then

the only good thing of this printer is the CBF and CCF capability

if it work well

idk if it work well i havent try and i dont see the point of even using that

[hollow crow]

I use PEI and G10 on mine.

[pure wyvern]

PEI sheet on my printer as well

A friend had a glass sheet on his printer. Was a nightmare as well

[olive marten]

the issue is i dotn haev any good way to mount other thing that glass on ths printer

[hollow crow]

Flashbacks of dealing with hairspray and kapton tape.

[olive marten]

i mean ihave a glass bed with a not glass building plate stuck on it as other option

but then bed teamp i fucked up

[hollow crow]

I still need to get some better clips for the G10 sheet, big prints will pull it right up.

[olive marten]

lat time i printed a big thingy the whoel bed left its place

[hollow crow]

https://tenor.com/view/tim-and-eric-spagett-gif-3478285

[olive marten]

[rose flame]

Hi guys, was looking into getting a 3d printer eventually

Seems like the P1S is my go to, but I've seen the firmware stuff bambu's been doing

are there any good alternatives, or is bambu still sort of it's own class?

[pure wyvern]

Bambu is the Apple of the 3D printing world and that's why I won't get one

[rose flame]

I saw the Prusa Core

but it's £200 more than the P1S with the new AMS2

[pure wyvern]

seems like a good alternative. you'd need to actually watch some reviews tho

I have an SV06 which is a cheapo 3D printer

but I kinda want to transform it into a CoreXY printer

[rose flame]

Like the idea of enclosed XY rather than an open bed slinger

Think I'd like the option of doing engineering materials

[pure wyvern]

yeah, corexy is definitely the way to go if you wanna print fast

and if you wanna do ASA/ABS, you need an enclosure

you should just find the few printers that you like, watch reviews on them, buy whichever fits you best

I haven't kept up on the 3d printing scene

[pure wyvern]

more work came up, this time it's some sort of holder for a light, split in half because it's 380 mm in length otherwise. 2 pcs needed so 4 halves in total. just a smidge over 5 hours of printing

[pure wyvern]

also, figured out how to connect my printer directly to the slicer so now I don't even export gcode files. I send them straight to the printer

less fluff on my PC

[pure wyvern]

I wonder if it's the actual hardware of the touchscreen itself that is unable to keep up with refreshing the webpage

feels like when the webcam is hitching, everything is hitching

[rose flame]

I see what you mean, almost looks like the printers lagging

[pure wyvern]

the printer itself isn't

also the commands for printing aren't, otherwise it'd crash

just video refresh and the web interface

[rose flame]

Might just be the connection to the internet then

Either the printer to the servers, your box or your PC

[pure wyvern]

it's all on LAN

[rose flame]

Yeah like to your modem and back to the PC

[pure wyvern]

it's a modern, dual 2.5 gig capable modem. I doubt it's the problem

[rose flame]

I've been stuck like this for 10minutes

[pure wyvern]

printer is also sitting right next to it

[rose flame]

v strange

[pure wyvern]

always sucks

[rose flame]

the actual fps is low I just noticed

indicating that it's the printer more than anything

[iron hatch]

3D Printing group I’m in shared this. Thought it was cool.

[spark ginkgo]

damn commercial 3d printing looks cheap, little orange pi zero 3 case only cost me 5 bucks to get it made in canada from forgelabs apparently it has a issue with the case walls being 1mm thick but not actually seeing that, says the walls have to be at least 0.8mm when they're 1.5mm

perhaps it's talking about the little display support for thickness looking at it, it is pretty thin

[pure wyvern]

probably only costs like 2-3 CAD to make

[spark ginkgo]

ye it is pretty small only about 60mm L and 80mm W, i think it's maybe 20-35mm H and fusion 360 is telling me it'd only take about a hour to print so pretty quick job too

i stand corrected
60 x 62 x 25mm

[pure wyvern]

you have the 3d model for it?

[spark ginkgo]

yeah, fusion 360 model exported to obj found a orange pi 3 zero model to use for measurments tho it's only as a mesh so i couldnt adjust anything on it

i even put some text to label the odd 13 pin headers and what they do

pretty much all it's designed for is give my direct access to the pins and a small display to see whats up with it. has some little pins to silde to pi over and just plop it in and have it stay in place

theres also a friction fit back panel tho i'll probably have to sand it down a bit to properly fit

[pure wyvern]

depends on what kind of gap there is and how tuned the printer is. But usually it is better to just print it bigger and then sand it down

I know my printer so I can just get the fit I want by playing with the gaps

[hollow crow]

I'll design in a 0.2mm gap, that's usually perfect for me.

[pure wyvern]

I should probably print a clearance test and actually tune all that shit

never touched it

[half grail]

are yall willing too print stuff and ship it? i can cover shipping ofc

gonna need a tobii mount im like 90% when i get my new tv

cuz its gonna be wall mounted

idk figured id ask otherwise i can online but its like 30$ just for the stand and i feel like thats alot idk how expensive 3d printing stuff is but i thought it was cheap

[pure wyvern]

Probably best for you to find someone locally

[half grail]

ig true didnt think of that

[pure wyvern]

Lots of people do that shit these days

[half grail]

any sites for finding local or no

[pure wyvern]

Not that I know of

[half grail]

it was a small plastic mount for under the tv for 30 plus shipping

like shipping i understand

but 30 for some plastic?

thought it was a little silly

[pure wyvern]

Yeah, that sounds expensive

Do you have a model?

For that tobii mount

[half grail]

un no it was just Esty

i also have no clue what will work

[pure wyvern]

Oh, like selling already printed things?

[half grail]

my new g5 is a 55in

and gonna be wall mounted

i really have no clue how well this will work with my setup

ill find out in 10 days

[pure wyvern]

As I've said, best to find someone who can print it locally

But you need to have a model

Since you have the monitor and everything, it's easy for you to measure it up and draw it

[half grail]

i suck at drawing

also would need a caliper right

which tbh i should get one lowkey nice

[spark ginkgo]

ye calipers help with small measurements, i think for tobii's size if you send it off to a online shop to get printed you'll probably want to make the measurements in centimeters so like 10mm would be 1cm and 1 mm is 0.1cm the site i use to print stuff uses only inches or centimeters last i bothered to check and it isn't too much of a hassle to convert from mm to cm

speaking of which i should grab a pair of calipers too instead of digging for 15 minutes to find some obscure items dimensions

alternatively you do what i did for my orange pi case and find a 3d model of it then make your mount around the model and leave a bit extra to sand for a tight fit

[pure wyvern]

Very strange to hear that. Even for 3d printing, tolerances can be adjusted by tenths of a mil so using centimeters doesn't make sense at all

[pure wyvern]

Doesn't have to be expensive. Even a barely accurate one for $20 is better not having one

So your options are either to pay someone to draw the model which will be impossible if you don't know exactly what you want with exact measurements to provide

Or you can measure and draw it up yourself

[half grail]

No I need one

Like the amount of fucking times I've been like a caliper would be so nice rn

And I don't have one

So it works out

[half grail]

Ye I'd get the measurements then either find someone too make it or how hard is it 3d modeling something myself

Can I do it in blender or some shit

I've done a tad of Java coding so in terms of difficulty how does it compare

[pure wyvern]

mistype. better than not having one

[pure wyvern]

idk, it's not hard

especially for simple shapes

[half grail]

real

[half grail]

blender work i learned that a little bit or what should i use

[pure wyvern]

should use something parametric, Fusion 360, onshape, solid edge

these are free

[half grail]

Ight

[pure wyvern]

freecad if you wanna torture yourself

[half grail]

I don't

I already did that with Java code

[olive marten]

hey hey hey for setting up decent profiel for my fillament what test woudl you recomand me to do (i'm doing heat tower and speed tower)

[pure wyvern]

Benchy is pretty good test actually

Has vertical text, text on the base plate, stringing test

Some overlap

[olive marten]

text seems real (both of them)

but also fined out with temp tower that i was not printign at the proper temp

(PLA+ was not just pla)

[pure wyvern]

What temp do you have to print at?

I print some starter PLA at 210

190 would probably be fine like it says on the spool but I'm printing faster than suggested

[olive marten]

i have PLA + and after my temp tower it seem liek the good place is 220c

maybe i haev issue with z offset

[pure wyvern]

for that just print a single layer square

[olive marten]

doing a speed tower rn

will try that after

[olive marten]

also oteh rquestion is it normal to see the infill patern on teh exterior wall ?

[pure wyvern]

how many walls are you using?

you should be using at least 2

3 is pretty strong, 4 is really strong

strength in prints actually comes mostly from perimeters, not the infill

[olive marten]

depedn the part a lot

but does that even in 4 wall part

[pure wyvern]

pic?

also, how many top/bottom layers?

[olive marten]

4 iirc

Idk if we will see it well with discord compressions

the vertical line align perfectly with the infil

[pure wyvern]

well, it is mostly out of focus but I can see the lines

very strange indeed

how does it look like in the slicer?

[olive marten]

you can see 2 on the front of the hull

[pure wyvern]

hmm, looks fine here, does it actually have 4 walls if you make a section cut?

[olive marten]

this one is 1 wall

cause i dont really care about the strutural strength of a benchy XD

[pure wyvern]

well, that's probably why you see the infill. does the printer do the wall first then infill or the other way round?

[hollow crow]

The point of Benchy is to make sure your printer is dialed in, so print it as if you would something you wanted to keep.

[pure wyvern]

they're probably trying to do a "speed benchy". It's a challenge to print it as fast as possible

so lowest infill, 1 wall

[hollow crow]

Ah yeah

[pure wyvern]

iirc there are rules for it to count

[olive marten]

i dont know hwo can i check other than printign something ?

[pure wyvern]

it's a setting you can change

[olive marten]

i dont fidn it

[pure wyvern]

what slicer?

[olive marten]

i mean i pritn some stuff with 1 wall only some with 4, some eevn with 100% infill when needed

[olive marten]

cura cause i hate the dedicated slicer of teh printer

[pure wyvern]

well, yeah. That's what you're supposed to do

[pure wyvern]

never liked cura tbh. I used prusaslicer, now starting to use orcaslicer

[olive marten]

i ahev a printer no oen has with a weird dual head adn so far i havent took time to learn how to create printer profile for other slicer

never seen a printer that slow too (especialy for a coreXY architecture

[hollow crow]

I could not get Orca to work at all for me, it just put me in an infinite loop of asking for info when trying to make a profile for my printer.

[pure wyvern]

did you use a preset or did you build the profile from ground up?

I did mine from ground up since it's a klipper SV06

[hollow crow]

No preset for my printer, had to make my own. But it gets to a point where it just goes back and forth between windows asking for the same info over and over.

[pure wyvern]

printer will go as fast as you tell it to, the question is if it will print correctly and not destroy itself

[hollow crow]

Found others having the same problem with it.

[olive marten]

what is werid is some fiel from people who used before me dotn haev those weird lien when i haev them

[olive marten]

yeah and no it cant go over 80mm/s

[pure wyvern]

corexy that doesn't go above 80 mm/s? that's trash

[olive marten]

[pure wyvern]

I print at 120-160 mm/s with 6k accel with a bedslinger

[olive marten]

welcome to the world of printer made for CCF printing

adn i dont even knwo if it work well

[pure wyvern]

well, that's what 3d printing is. you throw shit at the wall and see what sticks

all about experimentation

[olive marten]

this printer for me is just an overrpiced piece of shit tbh

[pure wyvern]

lol

but there has to be an option for "infill before walls" in cura

[olive marten]

i have better result with the CR10 mini we have at the other side of the station

[pure wyvern]

and then there is a separate one for "outer walls before inside"

but that latter one doesn't matter if you're only doing 1 wall

and turn on advanced mode or expert or whatever it's called

[olive marten]

founded it was in hiden option of teh advanced mode

[pure wyvern]

yeah, that's usually how it is

[olive marten]

and its set to infil first

[pure wyvern]

do the opposite

[olive marten]

wall first ?

[pure wyvern]

yeah

wall first, then it won't form around the infill and become visible

[olive marten]

i guess i will try that than

[pure wyvern]

also, a good idea is to add bonding lines for infill

but if you want it fast I guess it doesn't matter

[olive marten]

speed is not my main issue it will be slow anyway on thsi printer

what i sbounding line ?

[pure wyvern]

I mean this

but I guess for a benchy, it don't matter

it coneects all the lines, doesn't just stop at the sharp end

[olive marten]

oh yeah that is probaly a good idea

are you using a 0.2 print head ?

[pure wyvern]

.4

I just quickly downloaded it and set it to SV06

[olive marten]

your lien look so much thiner than mine XD

[pure wyvern]

these are the defaults

[olive marten]

oh i guess that explained mine are set to 0.8 for some reason

[pure wyvern]

these are default speeds cura gives me

[olive marten]

i use those speed to for now wanna test the different speed to haev great quality print but didnt had time yet

wehn you chaneg some speed settign do you ussualy just change the main "print speed" or you dial each type of speed ?

[pure wyvern]

wtf, I adjusted all the speeds and it's still showing 1 hour and 12 minutes

[olive marten]

weird

Did you make it reslice (if you don’t have the auto reslice activated)

[pure wyvern]

yeah

orcaslicer immediately only gives me 30 minutes

I didn't even set up that much

just downloaded orca and punched in some quick numbers I use

[olive marten]

Maybe orca slicer is better optimized for tool path

I should give orca a go tbh it seems to give you more control than cura

[pure wyvern]

punched in a few other numbers, got it down to 28 minutes

yeah, idk what's up with cura but I never personally liked it

this is something that I'd try printing

[olive marten]

28min benchy that is quite fast

[pure wyvern]

Could do it faster probably

I've done it faster before

[olive marten]

[pure wyvern]

24 mins iirc

[olive marten]

Me with my 1h to 1h30 benchy

[pure wyvern]

I've always had the idea of converting my bedslinger into a corexy

Could print much faster then

[olive marten]

If you have high speed filament

[pure wyvern]

Just turn up the temp

[olive marten]

deos any of you know which orca slicer website is teh real one

[pure wyvern]

Use github

Then you know it's real

[olive marten]

ok

[olive marten]

after some testing my printer kinda shit itself if goign over 40mm/s

i guess it make a bit of sense since its made for continuous fiber printing

[pure wyvern]

and I only print the first layer at that speed

ofc I don't print CF

[olive marten]

mien is not cf but ccf

[pure wyvern]

still, should be possible to print pretty fast

[olive marten]

i think sicne you need real low speed for CCF they didnt put fast motor

[pure wyvern]

printing the reverse engineered center caps

didn't bother trying to fix the mesh, just redrew the part based on the scan

[rose flame]

This is the way

[pure wyvern]

yeah, I ain't a blender user or anything. Just redrawing using parametric CAD is much faster for me 😄

[rose flame]

Agreed

Better for something you’re physically making anyway

[pure wyvern]

will it print?

[pure wyvern]

turns out no

one of the pieces detached as soon as I the supports ended

modified a little chamfer into the print so the brim has actual geometry to hold onto the part

[pure wyvern]

Success

[olive marten]

Why printing in such a weird orientation ?

And not flat on the side with the screw hole

[pure wyvern]

strength. These will be screwed where the slots are and there will be a small piece of rubber in the center hole where the rounded face is. A sliding door will be impacting that small piece of rubber/rounded face so if I printed flat on the face where the slots are, it would be shearing the part exactly along the layer lines

[olive marten]

Oh ok

[pure wyvern]

fdm?

[iron hatch]

Yep, bamboo P1S

[pure wyvern]

so you had to sand it to get rid of the layer lines, nice

[iron hatch]

Yeah, I printed it at .16 and then welded the 3 parts together, the dome, backpiece and the face mask. once that was done I sanded the helmet itself and then using bondo+acetone I coated all the other imperfections.

There was a gnarly hole in the top of it for example.

Today I went back and sanded it back down to almost the print and I'm probably gonna sand it again a bit tomorrow before I hit it with filler primer and get it one step closer to paint.

Making Helmets has been a long time want for me ever since 2018 when I got my first Ender 3, bamboo made it so much easier to do

-# This is my first one

[pure wyvern]

will it be a prop or an actual helmet for a costume?

[iron hatch]

Both.

I plan to finish making the whole armor set and then when I'm not using it, I'll display the helmet on a stand in my game room.

My ideal would be to finish this one and jump into making a helmet for every sci-fi or media I've fallen in love with and have a helmet wall.

[pure wyvern]

sounds cool

[iron hatch]

I'll share a picture once its completed.

still deciding how I wanna deal with the visor

[rose flame]

you wish you got the p1p?

or you not had an issue with it being open?

Wait

P1S is the enclosed one

nvm

[iron hatch]

Only thing I knock them for is that I wish they had bigger build plates but I’ll wait for the bigger one that isn’t an h2d and isn’t ~$3k

Other than that my p1s has like ~700hours print time and still prints like a champ

[rose flame]

Pretty much what’s on my wish list too

Something enclosed, big bed, engineering materials

Doesn’t cost an arm and a leg

[iron hatch]

I mean if I had a casual 3k laying around I wouldn’t mind an h2d but balling on a budget is hard

[spark ginkgo]

i wish i had 3d printer money so i could make useless stuff like the rocktopus

[olive marten]

https://tenor.com/view/rachel-no-gardner-angels-of-death-angels-of-slaughter-rachel-gardner-i-am-losing-my-marbles-gif-24138333

This printer is having more issue than sucrsfull print

[iron hatch]

Getting there

[rose flame]

fighting really hard with myself not to push the button on the P1S AMS2 combo rn

£700

I'd totally use it for a few projects I have in mind, I wish I could justify it

[olive marten]

Clean af

[olive marten]

Tbh ams seems rarely worth the price
I feel like it something you use on or 2 time then never use it again

[rose flame]

Does the ams2 not have a drying function?

[iron hatch]

weathered it and finished it today.

[olive marten]

Idk

[rose flame]

It’s pretty consistently humid where I’m at

[iron hatch]

It does.

[olive marten]

I don’t have my own printer only my company one and I have issue of filament too dry

[rose flame]

Too dry?!

That’s a new one on me

Does it just go brittle?

[olive marten]

did you used like a ski mask for the visor ?

[olive marten]

Yeah

But like brittle to a point of unspooling a bit to put in the printer break the filament

Tbf it’s a whole 10% humidity in my office (where the printer and fillanent is)

And yet I still have 3dryee if I wanted to make my fillanent extra dry

[iron hatch]

Nah, I bought a visor on amazon and cut it out and stuck it in there using hot glue and some visor clips.

I wanted to vacuum form it to get the more accurate version but I dont have the right tools or equipment for that atm.

[olive marten]

Work well liek that too

I hate working with hot glue

[iron hatch]

It’s not so bad, I’m used to it plus I burn my fingers all the time with random shit so I’m unaffected

[olive marten]

Cyanoacrylate glue everything

My other option is resin

I just hate working with hot glue

[iron hatch]

Never worked with either of those but I’m fairly confidant that hot glue is easier lol.

I lied, didnt realize that was another name for super glue.

[knotty galleon]

anyone have a good model for clamping 4020 extrusion to a desk?

[pure wyvern]

not specifically for 4020 extrusions. nothing on model sites?

[olive marten]

hey hey hey fellow 3d printer! i was wondering something does some printer more adapted to certain plastic ?

like with my actual printer i dont manage to get any clean print with PLA

but some "hard to print material" like tpu work flawlessly

[pure wyvern]

your settings are wrong. That's all there is to it. Well, maybe for ABS and ASA if you don't have an enclosure, you're gonna have a very hard time getting it to work but otherwise every printer should be able to do every material

[olive marten]

i have an enclosure and abs and asa work fine

but i cant find why pla refuse do do print clean

its been like 2month i'm trying to print cleanely in pla

nothing seems particularely weird on my setting

[pure wyvern]

what printer is this? bowden or DD extruder? for PLA you want fan speed to be 100% all the time except for maybe the first layer

[olive marten]

anisorpint A4 (a single head with dual nozzle for cff printing)

and its bowden

[pure wyvern]

seems like your printer is a bit of a specialty one so I guess you'll just have to experiment

[olive marten]

its been 2month i'm experimenting

i am at a point where i'm gonna gave up on PLA i think

and just petg/assa/pc print everything

[pure wyvern]

what's the actual issue when you print PLA?

[olive marten]

random gloging massive string and random print failure

• sometime part split in 2 midprint

on a layer line

[pure wyvern]

I'd like to see pictures. also, have you tried a single layer print to verify the first layer looks good?

[olive marten]

i think i still have a few succesfull ebnchy i think

gonna go take a look

[olive marten]

@pure wyvern those are some print taht were sucessful

sorry for teh delay i got called

[pure wyvern]

they look okay-ish apart from the stringing. Have you tried even more retraction?

[olive marten]

i could

[pure wyvern]

I really don't know what's too much retraction for bowden

when I use DD, my retraction is just 0.4 mm for PLA

[olive marten]

bridging is pretty bad too and the most anoying is the random "fail" i got sometime even on file i already printed

[rose flame]

Look like they were made by spiderman 😄