#industrial-professions | /r/starcitizen | Page 182

fickle zephyr Oct 25, 2020, 8:37 PM

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have you bought 2?

north umbra Oct 25, 2020, 8:37 PM

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nope

fickle zephyr Oct 25, 2020, 8:37 PM

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well then thats the problem

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you insurance claimed it so it turned red

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its no longer yours its the indurance companys

north umbra Oct 25, 2020, 8:38 PM

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Ah! That makes sense. But like I said it gets stuck on the ship hahah

fickle zephyr Oct 25, 2020, 8:39 PM

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yeah thats problematic

north umbra Oct 25, 2020, 8:39 PM

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Yeah because I went to a station with 2 rocs in the back.. and lets just say I had to be very creative in getting into the ship

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by the way that Test Squadron guide is pretty useful

green sundial Oct 25, 2020, 8:40 PM

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you could have sold the red cargo at grimhex

north umbra Oct 25, 2020, 8:40 PM

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last time I went to GH I got shot out of the sky lol

green sundial Oct 25, 2020, 8:40 PM

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I'm just saying, they buy illegal cargo

north umbra Oct 25, 2020, 8:41 PM

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Interesting I wonder if I may have inadvertently found a weird glitch

fickle zephyr Oct 25, 2020, 8:41 PM

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@fathom silo theoretically you could rent another players ROC, and make boxes of the cargo to sell the boxes, but the one renting it to you need to be available to respawn it during the rental period if it breaks/bugs

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and on the same server

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cant you empty the cargo of a red or unowned ROC anyway?

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just sell it as boxes

green sundial Oct 25, 2020, 8:43 PM

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yes you can

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it'll open no matter what

fickle zephyr Oct 25, 2020, 8:43 PM

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you can just not drive it right?

green sundial Oct 25, 2020, 8:43 PM

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right

fathom silo Oct 25, 2020, 8:44 PM

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@fickle zephyr Ok.
I was thinking about renting the prospector.. is it avle to also harvest minerals or is it for more heavy duty? Eager to learn here 😂

green sundial Oct 25, 2020, 8:44 PM

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@fathom silo https://testsquadron.com/threads/the-test-mining-guide-supplement-3-11.18087/post-348455 this may be of interest to you

TEST Squadron - Premier Star Citizen Organization

The TEST Mining Guide Supplement 3.11

Table of Contents

Upgrading Ship Components*
Prospector Upgrades
Mole Upgrades

Overclocking*

Scanning in Depth*
Scanner Factors
The Blue Box

Mineral/Ore Data & Observations*

The Rental Prospector*

Links

*Denotes link to section

north umbra Oct 25, 2020, 8:45 PM

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was not aware you can access the cargo hold of the ROC. That is cool

green sundial Oct 25, 2020, 8:45 PM

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an overview of the rental prospector

north umbra Oct 25, 2020, 8:45 PM

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and that you can refuel at pads at mining posts

fickle zephyr Oct 25, 2020, 8:45 PM

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ROC seem to be the first step into real pirating gameplay

green sundial Oct 25, 2020, 8:45 PM

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^exactly

fickle zephyr Oct 25, 2020, 8:46 PM

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last patch you could blow it up and salvage part of the cargo

north umbra Oct 25, 2020, 8:46 PM

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Yeah for sure

green sundial Oct 25, 2020, 8:46 PM

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not a bad thing imo and I'm an industrialist

fickle zephyr Oct 25, 2020, 8:46 PM

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this patch, just steal it straight up

north umbra Oct 25, 2020, 8:46 PM

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well its interesting you can pull the cargo out into boxes and store the boxes. Technically if you had a crew of guys there would be no reason to generally leave the planet

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unload the roc and store on the ship and repeat

fickle zephyr Oct 25, 2020, 8:47 PM

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just for refueling

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you could switch ships

north umbra Oct 25, 2020, 8:47 PM

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You can refuel at Mining pads according to that write up

green sundial Oct 25, 2020, 8:47 PM

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you can

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and repair

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.....if the game isn't glitching

fickle zephyr Oct 25, 2020, 8:47 PM

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if you have one/several guys mining and one guy going back and forth to sell

north umbra Oct 25, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Exactly

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Yeah pads have been horribly glitched for me for repairs/fuel

fickle zephyr Oct 25, 2020, 8:48 PM

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the sell guy will bring new refueled ships

green sundial Oct 25, 2020, 8:48 PM

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@fickle zephyr the guy transporting though to sell has to be the one getting the cargo out of the ROC though and own the transport ship

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or it'll show as illegal

fickle zephyr Oct 25, 2020, 8:49 PM

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mining pads? the platinum bay pads?

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so i can refuel a cutty there?

green sundial Oct 25, 2020, 8:49 PM

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no the landing pads

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not the PB pads

fickle zephyr Oct 25, 2020, 8:49 PM

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oh

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the uninitialized pads?

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that randomly despawns ships

north umbra Oct 25, 2020, 8:50 PM

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I think that is where

fickle zephyr Oct 25, 2020, 8:50 PM

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you said the guide, ill look for it

north umbra Oct 25, 2020, 8:50 PM

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Sunders posted a couple times now

green sundial Oct 25, 2020, 8:50 PM

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hi 😄

fickle zephyr Oct 25, 2020, 8:50 PM

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it will take time to read it all

green sundial Oct 25, 2020, 8:50 PM

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not my fault SC has involved mining 😄

north umbra Oct 25, 2020, 8:50 PM

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I mostly glanced at the ROC stuff

green sundial Oct 25, 2020, 8:50 PM

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lol

fickle zephyr Oct 25, 2020, 8:51 PM

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wait so the boxes are personal property?

green sundial Oct 25, 2020, 8:51 PM

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yep

fickle zephyr Oct 25, 2020, 8:51 PM

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hehe nice plot hole

north umbra Oct 25, 2020, 8:51 PM

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hence the pirate bit

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lol

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I'm also curious what a ROC sells for at GH

green sundial Oct 25, 2020, 8:52 PM

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heres something that'll really get ya. ships like the terrapin with no cargo at all can not be used to sell boxes of gems

fickle zephyr Oct 25, 2020, 8:52 PM

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so if i empty my roc all the time it will be worthless for pirates

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well they can sell att GH

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right

green sundial Oct 25, 2020, 8:52 PM

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right they can sell at grimhex

fickle zephyr Oct 25, 2020, 8:52 PM

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not on levski?

green sundial Oct 25, 2020, 8:53 PM

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nope

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levski is legal only

fickle zephyr Oct 25, 2020, 8:53 PM

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lebski only provide pirate ships lol

mellow flame Oct 25, 2020, 8:54 PM

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i cry i just mined for an hour and got blown up by purple pirate who was camping the space port and now my roc wont spawn

north umbra Oct 25, 2020, 8:54 PM

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try relogging

fickle zephyr Oct 25, 2020, 8:54 PM

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if you are 2 and 1 fly and the other empty cargo from roc, you have time to make boxes with small amount in each, pirates will never want to carry 50 boxes

north umbra Oct 25, 2020, 8:55 PM

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I mean they could.. but that would suck lol

fickle zephyr Oct 25, 2020, 8:55 PM

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they wopuld have to steal the ship

mellow flame Oct 25, 2020, 8:55 PM

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you can turn the cargo into boxes?

fickle zephyr Oct 25, 2020, 8:56 PM

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yes

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store all comodities is the option

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right click in the inventory

mellow flame Oct 25, 2020, 8:57 PM

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ok cool ill go try it also you guys wanna just hangout in chat for a bit

fickle zephyr Oct 25, 2020, 8:57 PM

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have you tried to spawn the roc at diffeent outposts on different moons?

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and restart game

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if that doesnt work i dont know if you can do anything else to avoid character reset, but i will not recommend caracter reset

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stuffs disapear sometimes and there is no guarantee on alpha credits or stuff bought with it, so stuff disapear some times

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that your wallet will be emty is very rare though

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and i have never heard of anyone loosing credit bought ships

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just consumeables, mags, missiles and sometimes modules

north umbra Oct 25, 2020, 9:00 PM

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just get dupes 😄

fickle zephyr Oct 25, 2020, 9:01 PM

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do you know how to?

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its agains tos though

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to do it intentionally

north umbra Oct 25, 2020, 9:01 PM

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wooo I can refuel now!

fickle zephyr Oct 25, 2020, 9:02 PM

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i have a dupe of cat and i have no idea why

green sundial Oct 25, 2020, 9:03 PM

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loaner?

fickle zephyr Oct 25, 2020, 9:04 PM

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there is no loaner cat in the game now

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the freefly is over

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my cat just dupes sometimes i dont know why, but its good for claiming times, i dont protest

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some server maintanences or caracter restets clean them up, some dont

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im thinking of getting a legit second cat just to keep the benefit when the dupes are cleaned

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it makes one way trade possible

north umbra Oct 25, 2020, 9:09 PM

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yeah I'm getting stuck with dupe rentals :\ annoying

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if I sell something insurance claimed does that mean I won't have it for use anymore?

green sundial Oct 25, 2020, 9:12 PM

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cat is a loaner for the hercules/HULL series, BMM, and Kraken

fickle zephyr Oct 25, 2020, 9:20 PM

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oh you mean like that

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no i bought it ingame

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i have already managed to grind up and buy a MOLE in 3.11 maybe im a bit cognitive biased when i complain about the poor credit making possibilitys in 3.11 😄

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but im disapointed that trading is a pure lottery now

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long term trading doesnt work, you always loose in the long run on lottery

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but you can make short trade commitments and have luck

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all mining options are laced with bugs, it was not as difficult to navigate thru the bugs in 3.10

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but at least mining still gives a profit in the end of the day

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just not as much as last patch

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i started playing in 3.10 so i dont know how it have been in the past

sullen anvil Oct 25, 2020, 9:28 PM

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Looking for a crew to do some mining

fickle zephyr Oct 25, 2020, 9:29 PM

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what setup is your ideal party mining plan?

crude cape Oct 25, 2020, 10:04 PM

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Is there nothing on Yeli but Dolv ore

north umbra Oct 25, 2020, 10:16 PM

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well I'm going to say SC doesn't want me comitting ROC fraud LOL

wraith saffron Oct 25, 2020, 10:24 PM

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so... if your ship blows up and your ROC doesnt you cant retreave it

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retrieve

fickle zephyr Oct 25, 2020, 10:35 PM

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if you can find it before it despawns

tough quarry Oct 26, 2020, 1:42 AM

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Anyone having trouble with the roc not picking up ore?

spare heath Oct 26, 2020, 1:44 AM

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Yes solution

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collection mode

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hover over the ore for like 15 to 30 seconds

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then it will hoover it up

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if it doesnt at all just respawn it

north umbra Oct 26, 2020, 2:38 AM

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Open door and get close. You'll see the "purple" outline

coarse cape Oct 26, 2020, 2:53 AM

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anyone know where to buy the cat at

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nvm

spare heath Oct 26, 2020, 3:03 AM

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Teach's shop has it

north umbra Oct 26, 2020, 3:11 AM

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Is there known NPCs around Yela? I keep landing on the planet and getting blasted by ships marked in red

crude cape Oct 26, 2020, 3:52 AM

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Is there some kindof trick to scanning with your ship to find ore small enough for the Roc? I only ever find 80% of giant ore deposits versus smallers ones Roc can mine

last flame Oct 26, 2020, 4:10 AM

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Fly at regular SCM Speeds, and do a full scan pulse on cooldown. You'll be able to get some indication that a rock is small enough for the ROC if it suddenly appears within about 2.5km of you on your next scan.

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Anything you can detect 5-10km out is too large.

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You'll also have a good indication because the scan area (the giant boxes) will be significantly smaller than the others

north umbra Oct 26, 2020, 4:42 AM

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SCM speeds?

fickle zephyr Oct 26, 2020, 4:54 AM

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@crimson mantle i cant get en route to work, it forces me to choose both source and destination, how is that useful?

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if i choose levski to levski i get nothing

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i want to choose like area 18 trade department and then search for routs ending there, why do i have to choose origin?

last flame Oct 26, 2020, 5:10 AM

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SCM Speeds means "within the white zone of your throttle limiter, instead of the red zone"

fickle zephyr Oct 26, 2020, 5:13 AM

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and cat can only be filled with 576 cargo if its stored

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while spawned its only 564

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is there other ships that have quirks like that?

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or is it a bug

last flame Oct 26, 2020, 5:22 AM

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That'd be a bug.

fickle zephyr Oct 26, 2020, 5:24 AM

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roger

karmic mason Oct 26, 2020, 7:11 AM

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best place to do some mining with a prospector?

sturdy pelican Oct 26, 2020, 7:11 AM

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Daymar

karmic mason Oct 26, 2020, 7:11 AM

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roger, thank you

fickle zephyr Oct 26, 2020, 7:52 AM

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whats your fav main city to sell cargo at?

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mine is definately area 18

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can skip train from spaceport to trade department with suicide

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1 train ride for the whole sell trip

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instead of 2

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or 3 if you land at lorville and die

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you can sell at NB with no train ride but it doesnt have any good places to fill a cat with from reasonably close

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and it means longer time with the cat in the wild with all the magnificant opportunities of loosing the cargo to bugs

boreal loom Oct 26, 2020, 9:32 AM

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Hey guys, been a whilst since I've played. what's the best cargo to be running rn? 🙂

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small budget

strong seal Oct 26, 2020, 9:55 AM

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Has anyone else had an issue where the mining inventory vanishes?

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had a mole that was full of stuff, including some quantanium, and sold for just over 2k credits

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+99% of the inventory vanished

green sundial Oct 26, 2020, 11:11 AM

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yep thats a bug

raven peak Oct 26, 2020, 11:39 AM

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Hey guys, for a starter to mine/haul stuff which ship do i go for ? Going to start the game now & looking to buy one

green sundial Oct 26, 2020, 12:04 PM

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for mining? hand mining in caves is pretty cheap to start. vehicle mining is more expensive and requires a ship capable of transporting the vehicle. ship mining is more expensive still

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for hauling a good starter is the 135C or Avenger Titan

raven peak Oct 26, 2020, 1:20 PM

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@green sundial So i start off with hand mining ? I thought i need to buy a starter ship to mine/haul them back. Not looking towards space mining atm. Just something that can get me across place so i can mine

green sundial Oct 26, 2020, 1:20 PM

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for hand mining you don't need anything but a starter ship

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and thats just to get you to the caves

raven peak Oct 26, 2020, 1:21 PM

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Ahh okay, any suggestions on what starter ship i should get for this ?

green sundial Oct 26, 2020, 1:21 PM

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there are some items for hand mining you need though, they're fairly cheap

raven peak Oct 26, 2020, 1:21 PM

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Awesome

green sundial Oct 26, 2020, 1:21 PM

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it can be any ship, as long as it can quantum around

raven peak Oct 26, 2020, 1:22 PM

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Dont i need to look for hauling capacity ?

green sundial Oct 26, 2020, 1:22 PM

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https://testsquadron.com/threads/the-complete-test-squadron-mining-guide-v3-11.18088/ if you want to know more about hand mining and mining in general

TEST Squadron - Premier Star Citizen Organization

The Complete TEST Squadron Mining Guide - V3.11

Table of Contents

Denotes link to section
Introduction to Mining

General Locations to Prospect
List of Minerals, Ores, & Gems
Minerals, Ores, & Gem Deposit Locations

First Person Mining*
FPM Tools & Accessories
Core Elements
Environmental Armor
Additional Items
FPM Gear P...

raven peak Oct 26, 2020, 1:22 PM

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Thanks !!

green sundial Oct 26, 2020, 1:23 PM

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hand mining, you're typically selling from your backpack anyway so you don't need a ship with cargo capacity unless you're boxing your gems and going back to mine more

raven peak Oct 26, 2020, 1:23 PM

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Yea, thats what i am looking for. Some long time mining runs then return to base

green sundial Oct 26, 2020, 1:23 PM

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well whats your game package have as a ship?

raven peak Oct 26, 2020, 1:24 PM

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i did not buy one yet, thats why wanted to check before buying

green sundial Oct 26, 2020, 1:24 PM

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then I'd suggest a 100i or 135C as a starter. if you want more firepower and a bit larger cargohold then an Avenger Titan

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the Pisces is also a great little ship, not much firepower though

raven peak Oct 26, 2020, 1:25 PM

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can i change the starter ship when buying ?

green sundial Oct 26, 2020, 1:25 PM

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change how?

raven peak Oct 26, 2020, 1:25 PM

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https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/ships

Ships - Roberts Space Industries | Follow the development of Star Citizen and Squadron 42

Roberts Space Industries is the official go-to website for all news about Star Citizen and Squadron 42. It also hosts the online store for game items and merch, as well as all the community tools used by our fans.

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like if i buy from here, so i still need to select that 135C one ?

green sundial Oct 26, 2020, 1:26 PM

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I can't see the RSI site at work or I'd tell you. I think you need to look over in game packages part of the store

raven peak Oct 26, 2020, 1:26 PM

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ah okay

green sundial Oct 26, 2020, 1:26 PM

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you have to have a game package in order to play the game

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it'll say something like SC digital download" in the items

raven peak Oct 26, 2020, 1:27 PM

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ANVIL C8X PISCES EXPEDITION - STARTER PACK - this one ?

green sundial Oct 26, 2020, 1:27 PM

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that would be a starter pack yes

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there should be a few others

raven peak Oct 26, 2020, 1:27 PM

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Yea, quite a few. But any suggetions on what i should look for small mining/hauling ?

green sundial Oct 26, 2020, 1:29 PM

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well for you small mining is gonna be hand mining. for hauling you're probably gonna want to be doing delivery missions of some kind. a Pisces, 100i/135c, Avenger Titan will all work well

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its been so long, I don't know what all they have for starter packs

raven peak Oct 26, 2020, 1:30 PM

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is it worth buying a basic pack + R.O.C for plant mining ?

green sundial Oct 26, 2020, 1:31 PM

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well you need a ship large enough to transport the ROC which means a Freelancer(not really what I recommend) or Cutlass Black(I do recommend this).

raven peak Oct 26, 2020, 1:32 PM

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Ah okay, so i cannot drive from Town to mining zone and back again ?

green sundial Oct 26, 2020, 1:33 PM

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you can but thats alot of driving

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and the vast majority of resources are not near vehicle spawn pads

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not to discourage the idea, but you'll want to be flying around scanning for stuff

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in SC the places you go are VAST

raven peak Oct 26, 2020, 1:35 PM

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Ohh okay, So i will go with that Avenger Titan for now then

green sundial Oct 26, 2020, 1:35 PM

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the Titan is an excellent ship

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handles well, has good firepower, 8 SCU(standard cargo units) of cargo space

raven peak Oct 26, 2020, 1:35 PM

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Titan or Cutlass Black ?

green sundial Oct 26, 2020, 1:35 PM

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thats up to you on how much money to spend

raven peak Oct 26, 2020, 1:35 PM

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ooh okay, that should be enough for me right ?

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well, just starting the game + dont have much game time for now till xmass. So just some basic mining/explo till then

green sundial Oct 26, 2020, 1:36 PM

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thats probably for the best to stick with something small

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get a feel for the game

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then see what else you want later

crimson mantle Oct 26, 2020, 1:38 PM

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@fickle zephyr Alright, I understand what you want now :)
There is no "starting location" in the trades because offering such an option can trap traders in a loop of subpar trades.
The supported use-case at the moment is: find the best trade route for you through /trade-routes then, if you're not there, find something to haul on the way using /en-route.
I hope that's a useful answer!

raven peak Oct 26, 2020, 1:41 PM

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@green sundial aight, Thanks a lot bud

green sundial Oct 26, 2020, 1:41 PM

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read that guide I linked, it'll answer anything you want to know about mining

raven peak Oct 26, 2020, 1:41 PM

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Yea, doing that now

green sundial Oct 26, 2020, 1:41 PM

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warning: its LONG

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😄

raven peak Oct 26, 2020, 1:41 PM

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xD

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better read, than whine later xD

green sundial Oct 26, 2020, 1:46 PM

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theres also a Supplement that goes with that Guide thats linked i nthe first post which goes into other topics

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though, they arn't relevant for what you need atm

raven peak Oct 26, 2020, 1:47 PM

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okay, better to read em all

green sundial Oct 26, 2020, 1:47 PM

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😄

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most of all that is related to ship or vehicle mining

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but hand mining teaches alot of techniques and practices

glass rock Oct 26, 2020, 1:52 PM

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So dudes

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I have happened across a caterpillar

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how do I make the money?

lofty crest Oct 26, 2020, 3:08 PM

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buy the cargo then sella da cargo

north umbra Oct 26, 2020, 3:17 PM

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just don't spend all the money on cargo

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which is the better cold planet for ROC?

daring vale Oct 26, 2020, 5:30 PM

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Managed 54k from a mining run. Found two rocks of bexa, which made up a majority of the profits.

green sundial Oct 26, 2020, 5:32 PM

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good job

north umbra Oct 26, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Just got dc'd after I had a 35% load going 😦

green sundial Oct 26, 2020, 6:03 PM

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the game detects fun and deploys countermeasures

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😄

north umbra Oct 26, 2020, 6:08 PM

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LOL

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It wouldn't be bad if the game could sort of resume you.. but its like.. have to completely restart from a hab

coarse cape Oct 26, 2020, 7:43 PM

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I had full freelancer of cargo and game saw I was having fun and killed me mid qt

green sundial Oct 26, 2020, 7:44 PM

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point proven

north umbra Oct 26, 2020, 7:54 PM

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lol I was out mining when it was -109 on some blustery planet. Unloaded my ROC and my ship takes off on its own

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get out of the ROC and its start dancing

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unloaded what I had from the ROC into my pack and grabbed the ship and took off

vivid python Oct 26, 2020, 8:00 PM

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Haven't done much cargo running since 3.10....hadn't had fun doing it since 3.09 AMIRITE. Anyways, how is cargo haulin' in 3.11.

last flame Oct 26, 2020, 8:08 PM

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Spotty. 30ks are frequent and unpredictable, so if you're not short-hauling, you run a risk of losing your haul

green sundial Oct 26, 2020, 8:09 PM

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better to just run deliveries

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shorter time investment, no up front cash put in

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practice the new throw mechanic

waxen basin Oct 26, 2020, 8:10 PM

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went back to my spot to mine in halo ring, found 8 roids right next to each other best spot ever and i hop in the turret and the mole freezes lol

coarse cape Oct 26, 2020, 8:18 PM

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Nice

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I’m grinding for prospector rn

hollow sedge Oct 26, 2020, 8:19 PM

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Anyone know how to avoid the roc spawning with buggy physics? Like I spawn it and it just starts floating. When I try to drive it it pops a wheelie/flips

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Happening on arial and auberdeen now

waxen basin Oct 26, 2020, 8:24 PM

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thought the last mini patch fixed that

green sundial Oct 26, 2020, 8:24 PM

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I've always had good luck opening the door first, letting it animate before getting in the seat

hollow sedge Oct 26, 2020, 8:27 PM

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It flies off the pad half the time before I can even reach it

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Patch definitely didnt fix lol

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Happened 3 tries in a row, if anything it is worse

karmic mason Oct 26, 2020, 8:29 PM

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Newish - gonna play around with the Roc and do some mining moonside.

hollow sedge Oct 26, 2020, 8:30 PM

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Ill try spawning it in loreville and see if that helps

karmic mason Oct 26, 2020, 8:34 PM

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If the wind is too high it will blow the roc away. saw that yesterday

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basically if you can't run into the wind, it's too fast

hollow sedge Oct 26, 2020, 8:35 PM

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No this is definitely a bug.

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It flies off the pad as soon as i spawn it, falls through the ground etc

karmic mason Oct 26, 2020, 8:47 PM

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try daymar mining facility. mine just spawned fine here

fickle zephyr Oct 26, 2020, 9:09 PM

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@crimson mantle alright thank you!

north umbra Oct 26, 2020, 9:45 PM

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ROCs are doing strange things today. I have had a lot of issus with them

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but yes the winds on some planets are pretty crazy

fickle zephyr Oct 26, 2020, 9:48 PM

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hehe yah microtech moons

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the prospector have to be in the exact correct angle against the wind or it just flyes away like a plastic bag

north umbra Oct 26, 2020, 9:50 PM

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Yeah I was on one of the moons there.. even my cutlass blew away lol

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and it was landed

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Yup 😦 I think I'm going to be looking for money another way

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hollow sedge Oct 26, 2020, 10:58 PM

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Yeah ill just randomly start twirling like a ballerina

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This could be a coincidence but if I dont expedite my claim on a roc I dont have problems

north umbra Oct 26, 2020, 11:27 PM

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dunno they've just been acting funny today. even spawning them at PB they get all jittery and float about

vestal plume Oct 26, 2020, 11:28 PM

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I spawned a few yesterday, watching each one right after spawn to see how it reacts. Every time, it'd start bucking around or sinking.

Bounced servers, went back, and no issues. Probably some luck involved there.

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I ended up finally making some money, but I'm too paranoid to get much further than around 60% before I start heading back to sell.

north umbra Oct 26, 2020, 11:30 PM

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Yeah I'm usually around the 25-30% mark myself

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I'll even unload the ROC into my backpack in case

vestal plume Oct 26, 2020, 11:41 PM

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See I once again forgot that existed.

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But my fear is 30ks, so stacking anything still feels really dangerous. Folks rocking more than 1 ROC/etc., those are the real heroes

fickle zephyr Oct 27, 2020, 12:51 AM

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i havent lost anything in my chest armour in 3.11

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equipped or not

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no matter how i die

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no matter the game bugs

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leg armour though, stay away

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rucksack holds alot, pembroke holds much more

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and novikov holds even more

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backpacks have also been fine for me

green sundial Oct 27, 2020, 1:06 AM

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novikov and pembroke hold the same amount

bright gate Oct 27, 2020, 1:08 AM

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There is a bug in 3.11, items stored in backpack/torso armor are not lost when you die. They intend to fix that at some point.

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I haven't dared let the ROC hold more than 20% in ages.

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Given that items in leg armor does go away, what I suspect happened is that the code that clears out armor inventory upon death only looks at the first item in the list, and legs are first (when there was only one armor inventory, it didn't matter).

fickle zephyr Oct 27, 2020, 1:10 AM

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are they planning to do anything about the bug that you can stuff armour after armour and unequip

bright gate Oct 27, 2020, 1:10 AM

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I don't know.

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I am pretty sure eventually you won't be able to change armor unless you have an excuse as to how you have the other armor 'with' you.

fickle zephyr Oct 27, 2020, 1:11 AM

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no enderchests no more

fickle zephyr Oct 27, 2020, 1:39 AM

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novikov and pembroke hold the same amount
@green sundial not mine

green sundial Oct 27, 2020, 1:41 AM

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weird

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they're supposed to

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at least they did before they took away the chest inventory to stop the infinite sell

fickle zephyr Oct 27, 2020, 1:43 AM

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📎 ScreenShot0092.jpg

green sundial Oct 27, 2020, 1:43 AM

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oh wow

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they didn't add the chest area back to the pembroke backpack

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

fickle zephyr Oct 27, 2020, 1:44 AM

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i never stuffed anything in them before the patch that fixed the exploit

green sundial Oct 27, 2020, 1:44 AM

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I'll call that a good jorb

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😄

fickle zephyr Oct 27, 2020, 1:45 AM

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i thought they were supposed to be storageless

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that the backpack was just life support

green sundial Oct 27, 2020, 1:45 AM

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they didn't fix anything, they just disabled the chest inventory to stop the bug

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hopefully its actually fixed in 3.12

fickle zephyr Oct 27, 2020, 1:46 AM

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ok not fixed, removed

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will they fix the prospector reselling bug also?

green sundial Oct 27, 2020, 1:47 AM

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not sure tbh

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I 'think' so

fickle zephyr Oct 27, 2020, 1:47 AM

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do they even know it exists?

green sundial Oct 27, 2020, 1:47 AM

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I tried selling a quant haul earlier and couldn't but once

fickle zephyr Oct 27, 2020, 1:48 AM

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i have contributed but it was below 10 contributions

green sundial Oct 27, 2020, 1:48 AM

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it was fixed in 3.10.x iirc

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but it still slips in now and then, because reasons

fickle zephyr Oct 27, 2020, 1:48 AM

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i managed to sell 19 times once before i got rid of the quant in the cargo

green sundial Oct 27, 2020, 1:49 AM

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nice

fickle zephyr Oct 27, 2020, 1:49 AM

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how are we supposed to get rid of it without selling? cant claim it when its stored

green sundial Oct 27, 2020, 1:49 AM

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my haul earlier

fickle zephyr Oct 27, 2020, 1:49 AM

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nice

green sundial Oct 27, 2020, 1:49 AM

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cluster of quant, 10 rocks, 4 of em were 20%+

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2 of em were 35%s

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I mined them

fickle zephyr Oct 27, 2020, 1:50 AM

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most times it disapears in the first sell, sometimes the second

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very rare it takes more times

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ohh

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imagine if you had a MOLE

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that would be over half a mil

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probably plenty more

green sundial Oct 27, 2020, 1:51 AM

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before they fixed it I made 500K once selling multiple times

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it was wild

fickle zephyr Oct 27, 2020, 1:52 AM

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its fixed?

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i can still sell prospector cargo twince like every third time on average

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19 times was in 3.11a

green sundial Oct 27, 2020, 1:53 AM

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server server something something server ¯_(ツ)_/¯

fickle zephyr Oct 27, 2020, 1:53 AM

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but it was not a very rich cargo that 19 times sell

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its still insane

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so ill stick to MOLE for now

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novelty pleasure

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my MOLE record solo is over 280k and that was only 2 quant rocks 9% each

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and it was 50% cargo

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and i took even the tiniest quant chunks like 0.7%

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i havent done many runs yet

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yeah 287k, 66% quant 50% cargo

fickle zephyr Oct 27, 2020, 2:15 AM

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to be fair, prospectors quant bug also makes it turn intert at random even before the yellow light

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often

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so prospectors probably loose just as much on the bug

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but that one time though

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almost a million

mental fulcrum Oct 27, 2020, 5:22 AM

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whats better for $$ right now - trading cargo or mining in the prospt or Roc

fickle zephyr Oct 27, 2020, 6:10 AM

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i have lost millions on trading this patch, but everyone doesnt have as bad luck as me maybe

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only mining have kept my wallet growing

fast briar Oct 27, 2020, 6:14 AM

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What's the future of cargo? Will we actually load the cargo ourselves? I saw a video that looked like so...

fickle zephyr Oct 27, 2020, 6:14 AM

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yes

fast briar Oct 27, 2020, 6:14 AM

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Any videos with details?

fickle zephyr Oct 27, 2020, 6:14 AM

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i bet its not gonna be carrying a box at a time 🙂

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no its just concept right now i think

fast briar Oct 27, 2020, 6:15 AM

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I want forklifts

fickle zephyr Oct 27, 2020, 6:16 AM

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pretty much every part of the game seem to be very detailed and nothing is quick and easy in concept

fast briar Oct 27, 2020, 6:16 AM

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They did great job with mining though

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Mining and prison...yet haters say nothing was done in 2020

fickle zephyr Oct 27, 2020, 6:17 AM

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i havent space mined in any other game so i wouldnt know

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the very detailed mining will come with orion

fast briar Oct 27, 2020, 6:18 AM

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I got into sc during the lockdown so a lot of content already

fickle zephyr Oct 27, 2020, 6:18 AM

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its like 4 or 5 completly different jobs to do and each one is its own minigame

fast briar Oct 27, 2020, 6:18 AM

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Sucks to be these butthurt old dudes from day 1

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Lol

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Yeah, we need lots of mini games

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I want karaoke and bowling at area 18

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Neon bowling

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Would be nice

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Pool

fickle zephyr Oct 27, 2020, 6:20 AM

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karaoke and pool in 890j

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both pool and pool lol

fast briar Oct 27, 2020, 6:20 AM

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Really

fickle zephyr Oct 27, 2020, 6:20 AM

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karaoke i dont know, a "nightclub"

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and ppol table and swimming pool

fast briar Oct 27, 2020, 6:20 AM

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But you need to own that or be down with someone

fickle zephyr Oct 27, 2020, 6:20 AM

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yeah

fast briar Oct 27, 2020, 6:20 AM

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A real place at area would be sick

fickle zephyr Oct 27, 2020, 6:20 AM

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join an org

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but i dont think it works right now that the org owns ships and members can use it

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have you seen the dance floor at night i think it is, in NB

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it turns on in the nighttime

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i wish trading would become like, every space station above a city is the trade hub where you can rent storeage space for your cargo while putting it up for sale

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like a hull E loads off a shitton of something and then cats buy a part of it and fly down to the city with it

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and cats or MAX or whatever go around to outposts and pick up their limited amount and take it to a trade hub

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and a hull E can buy the cargo from 20 different players and transport it to next trade hub in another star system

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players will control the price but with a cap at what the factories will pay

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and purchase orders

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and and

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mmm

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could be so fun

spare heath Oct 27, 2020, 7:13 AM

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could be

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if they learned how to make their game work 😛

fickle zephyr Oct 27, 2020, 7:16 AM

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its development phase, even if they fix bugs new ones and the same will come with the next patch

spare heath Oct 27, 2020, 7:43 AM

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Im pretty sure everyone is aware of that

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stop trying to make excuses for a game that doesnt even work well on the best of days

hollow sedge Oct 27, 2020, 11:07 AM

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i just baught a roc and my tractor beam doesnt work any idea how to fix it

green sundial Oct 27, 2020, 11:08 AM

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you have to leave the beam on the gems for 10-15 seconds

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or more

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seems to depend on how overloaded the server is

hollow sedge Oct 27, 2020, 11:09 AM

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thank that really helps!

green sundial Oct 27, 2020, 11:16 AM

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its supposed to pick em up fast but something with how loaded the server is makes it slow

hollow sedge Oct 27, 2020, 11:17 AM

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ye cause there was this one time where it picked everything up instantly, it was like a super powerfull vacumm but now it doesnt seem to do anything lol

green sundial Oct 27, 2020, 11:19 AM

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mmhmm

fickle zephyr Oct 27, 2020, 12:50 PM

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consumeables on MOLE almost never works, but i went back to prospector a little and no, the consumeable bug seems less of a problem than all the problems prospector have

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and the MOLE scanner is amazing

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prospector have shorter range and gives false readings, when you arrive to some bluboxes there is nothing there, that havent happened in MOLE

last flame Oct 27, 2020, 12:53 PM

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That’s because those blue boxes encompass multiple signatures. As you get closer, that one signature breaks into two

fickle zephyr Oct 27, 2020, 12:53 PM

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and MOLE doesnt seem to have the quantinium bug that sometimes just tursnt the quant into inert, far to early

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and it doesnt seem to have the cargo left in the MOLE sometimes after you sell it, like in prospector

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all in all MOLE have less problems

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yeah i know about that, but the prospector shows boxes that just dissapear when you get close and doesnt divide up

last flame Oct 27, 2020, 12:55 PM

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Haven’t seen that happen personally.

fickle zephyr Oct 27, 2020, 12:56 PM

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it happens in asteroid fields

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for me

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and my mining buddy

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the scanner range is soo nice in asteroid fields

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MOLE is the ultimate quantanium miner methink

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its not fun on moons

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hydro just swoosh gone in atmo

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have to go to an outpost to refuel mid trip

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or fly really slow

last flame Oct 27, 2020, 1:37 PM

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Hydro you can help with VTOL.

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Through careful use of VTOL when you're mining, you can keep your hydrogen fuel going for quite a while.

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We had a 2 hour trip in a MOLE with three of us and we hit 75% hydro on the way back to the station

fathom silo Oct 27, 2020, 2:08 PM

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What would you recommend running with trading? Regarding what cargo? Laranite? Astatine Etc?

fickle zephyr Oct 27, 2020, 2:27 PM

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titanium

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i would recommend to minimize risks as much as possible, its riskier this patch than last

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so as short time as possible from buying cargo to storing ship

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that meanst buying a cargo that you can fill teh cat with no wait times

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if you use something smaller then ignore the titanium tip

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what cargo ship do you intend to use?

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this site is good for beginners https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes

SC Trade Tools

Optimized Star Citizen trade routes

fathom silo Oct 27, 2020, 2:31 PM

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@fickle zephyr thx! 😁

fickle zephyr Oct 27, 2020, 2:32 PM

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yw

north umbra Oct 28, 2020, 1:54 AM

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When all you want to do is mine, but you insist on checking the ceiling for issues

📎 unknown.png

bleak lance Oct 28, 2020, 2:03 AM

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i wonder when the hull d will come out

last flame Oct 28, 2020, 3:58 AM

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Quite some time after the Hull-C

bleak lance Oct 28, 2020, 4:10 AM

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hmm i hope they do a good cargo ship next, like the orion for mining or the hull ships that can cargo haul well

last flame Oct 28, 2020, 4:10 AM

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They've apparently been working on the HULL-C for quite a while, but the mechanics required to retract the ship's spine has been a hurdle

fathom silo Oct 28, 2020, 5:46 AM

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Are there different kinds of backpacks?

bleak lance Oct 28, 2020, 5:48 AM

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/9h3q05/about_the_hull_series/

About the hull series

Hey guys, I was reading a post about which ship can or can not land and this just reminded me the hull series. I remember seeing one (The C one...

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Hull c is almost done few years ago?

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@last flame

bright star Oct 28, 2020, 9:13 AM

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Satisfaction

📎 ScreenShot0032_b.jpg

pliant matrix Oct 28, 2020, 9:58 AM

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lucky dude!!

crimson mantle Oct 28, 2020, 12:41 PM

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@bleak lance They need to rework the cargo system to allow the spawn of larger multi-SCU crates. Otherwise the simple act of looking at an Hull-C, with its 4k+ crates rendered, will crash most clients.
Or so they said.

lofty crest Oct 28, 2020, 1:12 PM

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that does make sense tho

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can you imagine

bleak lance Oct 28, 2020, 7:05 PM

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Hmm then I wonder if the merchantman is a sooner release than the hull

green sundial Oct 28, 2020, 7:53 PM

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probably not. they went back to reconcept the BMM last I heard

bleak lance Oct 28, 2020, 11:55 PM

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ok then, hull c is is on sale day xd

fickle zephyr Oct 28, 2020, 11:59 PM

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now? november?

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In Production

Currently being built and tested for implementation in-game.

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soon

north umbra Oct 29, 2020, 4:38 AM

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So apparently... if you find a rock with the rental ship that just does not want to break. Try 100% laser power and just move it all around the rock and heat that sucker up.

serene quest Oct 29, 2020, 4:45 AM

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Yep takes a good while but it works. Though o don’t think you’ll have much luck on anything with a mass over like 6-7k

north umbra Oct 29, 2020, 4:46 AM

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Good to know. Was curious what the limit woud be

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Trying to decide if short runs for less with the prospector is better than the volitaile runs with the ROC

serene quest Oct 29, 2020, 4:50 AM

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Given the sheer number of bugs I’d honestly try the prospector

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Or maybe check LFG and tag along with anyone looking to group up for a mining job. Make some cash with less risk (albeit less reward too)

north umbra Oct 29, 2020, 4:51 AM

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Yah I did a crappy diamond run for 12k but it went fast.
Going to try a different area as selling at Lorville is a time suck

serene quest Oct 29, 2020, 4:52 AM

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PO will buy although it’s a bit risky

north umbra Oct 29, 2020, 4:53 AM

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Yah I got a weird crime stat for no reason tonight there so I avoid it

serene quest Oct 29, 2020, 4:53 AM

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Lol

stuck lynx Oct 29, 2020, 6:39 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejL_xLxIkxg&t=3s

YouTube

Trexcapades

100k+ PER/HR AS A NEW PLAYER: Star Citizen Mining Guide, Route, & T...

I used the exact strategies I laid out in this video to make over 5,000,000 aUEC in just a few weeks at a pace of 100k+ per/hr. I think this is one of the very best ways to go from a new player with little money to a "money-bags" player. I hope you find it helpful!

Feel free...

▶ Play video

fickle zephyr Oct 29, 2020, 8:21 AM

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levski is a short few miutes away

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worth it to avoid lorville

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unless you have quantanium

maiden brook Oct 29, 2020, 9:01 AM

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One issue they need to work on is make markers for those ROC mining. Once I was gonna go back to the landing zone..had no clue which way to go because of no compass on the planet side. Landing zones dont show up on the map unless you QT which you can not do on a ROC. Sure you can use a ship as a marker but that would clutter up the area around the landing zone plus you risk having someone blow it up as well.

raven peak Oct 29, 2020, 9:06 AM

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How do i put the things i mine on a planet into the ship ?

hexed yarrow Oct 29, 2020, 9:26 AM

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@raven peak use the extraction beam, while in mining mode you can switch with right click

raven peak Oct 29, 2020, 9:33 AM

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i mean into a freighter, lets say i mine at a planet & want to store the stuff from my backpack. do i have to return to city for it ?

north umbra Oct 29, 2020, 1:20 PM

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Well not being able to upgrade the rental prospector it limits what and where you can mine. I know there are 'tricks' to help, but it just makes things take longer. I'd say for the rental stick to the Hurston system

last flame Oct 29, 2020, 3:10 PM

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Use the sun as a marker, @maiden brook. You can also set a location on the planet as a destination and spool up your Quantum Drive briefly, then turn it off, and the marker should stick

maiden brook Oct 29, 2020, 3:11 PM

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@last flame I'm aware but you can't do that on the Roc. Lol

last flame Oct 29, 2020, 3:12 PM

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It should still have the marker when you board the ROC for where the destination is

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it has for me, at least

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I'd set the marker and pulse the QT on my Cutty, then bring the ROC on board and go hunting. Unless you're spefically just driving your ROC out of a landing zone, which is understandable

maiden brook Oct 29, 2020, 3:13 PM

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Nope. Me and another person were unable to find the base after we left.

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I'm talking about Roc only. No ships.

last flame Oct 29, 2020, 3:13 PM

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Yeah, not sure then. I haven't done that in a long, long time

fickle zephyr Oct 29, 2020, 4:28 PM

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i never heard of anyone ROC mining without ship before, does it work well?

maiden brook Oct 29, 2020, 4:37 PM

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@fickle zephyr yes and no. Able to mine fine but lack of markers makes it hard to turn it in when you don't know where the landing areas are.

fickle zephyr Oct 29, 2020, 4:52 PM

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@maiden brook pick up a delivery mission box and put it where you want a marker

open fog Oct 29, 2020, 7:47 PM

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Is SLAM still not sellable? Also is GrimHEX the only place to sell Altruciatoxine? I've gone to many outposts which used to buy it but don't seem to anymore.

crimson mantle Oct 29, 2020, 7:55 PM

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@open fog Indeed, SLAM is not sellable for now.
And correct, Altruciatoxin is only bought at Grim HEX: https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/Altruciatoxin

SC Trade Tools

Optimized Star Citizen trade routes

green sundial Oct 29, 2020, 7:57 PM

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hmm they took away the hidden terminals then at a couple of the rest stops

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thats sad

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SC needs a thriving drug trade

pallid temple Oct 29, 2020, 8:08 PM

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@green sundial The NQA terminals being gone was an unintended side effect of the redesigned R&R stations

green sundial Oct 29, 2020, 8:09 PM

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more than likely. though sadly

pallid temple Oct 29, 2020, 8:10 PM

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Its not more than likely, Luke Pressley confirmed it

green sundial Oct 29, 2020, 8:10 PM

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oh ok

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confirmed confirmation is confirmed

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was it answered on the forum?

pallid temple Oct 29, 2020, 8:11 PM

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No, it was answered on the alpha 3.11 SCL

green sundial Oct 29, 2020, 8:12 PM

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I shall have to go watch

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thank you

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for some reason I thought I had already

open fog Oct 29, 2020, 8:13 PM

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@crimson mantle ty for reply

blissful sparrow Oct 29, 2020, 9:45 PM

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Gonna ask this in here because most of you will be familiar with planetside vehicle pads :P

Anyone know if you can still spawn small ships on vehicle pads?? Stuff like the m50. I know it used to be a thing, but was broken at some point.

mossy meteor Oct 29, 2020, 9:46 PM

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Does anyone here think the Merchantman will go up in price once all the capital ships start releasing?

last flame Oct 29, 2020, 9:50 PM

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No. The merchantman will go up in price when it’s released. Potentially before that if it’s reconcepted

fickle zephyr Oct 29, 2020, 9:57 PM

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i was not able to retrieve arrow on an outpost

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the other day

north umbra Oct 29, 2020, 10:23 PM

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So I need to see if I understand this whole busting boulders with the prospector things. I come up to an orange rock and I bust it up. I then have a purple rock.
The purple rock has say quartz @ 20% and has titanium @ 20%. The rock mass is 82.5kg.
Does this mean that there is 80% inert materials? Or 40% of 82.5 is inert?

green sundial Oct 29, 2020, 11:45 PM

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it would have 60% inert

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20% quartz + 20% titanium = 40% mineral/ore leaving 60% as inert

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Titanium is 2nd only to Inert Material in how bad it'll fracture

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https://testsquadron.com/threads/the-test-mining-guide-supplement-3-11.18087/#post-348454

TEST Squadron - Premier Star Citizen Organization

The TEST Mining Guide Supplement 3.11

Table of Contents

Upgrading Ship Components*
Prospector Upgrades
Mole Upgrades

Overclocking*

Scanning in Depth*
Scanner Factors
The Blue Box

Mineral/Ore Data & Observations*

The Rental Prospector*

Links

*Denotes link to section

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@north umbra ^

north umbra Oct 30, 2020, 12:10 AM

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Yah I have that bookmarked lol. I was trying to figure out how to reduce inert as I am usually bringing in 30-4% inert.
But I am using the rental so I can really only mine inferior ore

green sundial Oct 30, 2020, 12:11 AM

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the only way to reduce inert is to get a good break unfortunately

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go for high initial concentrations of gold, diamond

north umbra Oct 30, 2020, 12:20 AM

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Amd that is because of the fracture rate?

green sundial Oct 30, 2020, 12:23 AM

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yes, the cluster factor is how well a mineral/ore will for lack of a better word, clump together

bleak lance Oct 30, 2020, 2:08 AM

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holy shit quantium mining is busted, legit find 1 rock, and sell insta 100k takes like 5 min in yela asteroid belt

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made 400k in a n hour

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much faster and safer than cat cargo hauling imo

dull olive Oct 30, 2020, 3:17 AM

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anyone wanna for a mining party?

raven peak Oct 30, 2020, 10:00 AM

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is it possible to buy ROC ingame ?

pallid temple Oct 30, 2020, 10:17 AM

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Yes

fickle zephyr Oct 30, 2020, 12:02 PM

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@bleak lance sell att GH?

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have all the vaduul helmet attacks calmed nown?

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its the same thing at levski

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with quant

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just jump out and break the jump right away

feral creek Oct 30, 2020, 12:12 PM

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@raven peak ya get it from hurston ship dealer at lorville

fickle zephyr Oct 30, 2020, 12:12 PM

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so you go like 1000-10 000km

raven peak Oct 30, 2020, 12:12 PM

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Thanks !! @feral creek

feral creek Oct 30, 2020, 12:12 PM

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All g

fickle zephyr Oct 30, 2020, 12:13 PM

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most effective with 2 shipminers if the party beacons work

north umbra Oct 30, 2020, 3:45 PM

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how the heck do I find the refinery terminal in A18

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So I found it but it leaves the question.. Can you make it from Wala to A18 and sell Quant 😄

green sundial Oct 30, 2020, 4:02 PM

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only if after you land you suicide immediately to wake up in the hab

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or alternatively you store your ship so it stops the decay

north umbra Oct 30, 2020, 4:03 PM

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So there is a suicide trick too for A18?

last flame Oct 30, 2020, 4:03 PM

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I personally wouldn't trust selling Quant to anything that requires a train ride

green sundial Oct 30, 2020, 4:03 PM

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no, it just gets you back to the hab faster than the tram

last flame Oct 30, 2020, 4:03 PM

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which basically leaves Olisar, GrimHEX (I think?), and Levski

green sundial Oct 30, 2020, 4:03 PM

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but storing the ship will stop it from decaying

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then you can ride the tram and sell it

north umbra Oct 30, 2020, 4:04 PM

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ah! Ok will have to try that

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I use the death trick in Lorville to avoid the trains to sell there

green sundial Oct 30, 2020, 4:05 PM

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once refinery decks are in, you'll pretty much stop seeing people use the major LZs to sell

north umbra Oct 30, 2020, 4:05 PM

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Yeah I can't wait for that

green sundial Oct 30, 2020, 4:05 PM

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which imo is good

last flame Oct 30, 2020, 4:06 PM

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Yup, same. Though I wonder if Refinery decks are going to have different prices or materials they'll accept

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I doubt it, but still something I ponder

north umbra Oct 30, 2020, 4:07 PM

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I'm ok with that honestly

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They could make it so that you would have to find the best selling deck for the best prices so it makes you travel around

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or that certain areas sell a specific material better than others

green sundial Oct 30, 2020, 4:08 PM

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its on my to-do list for the guide

fair fog Oct 30, 2020, 6:30 PM

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@north umbra if they make that, I hope there will be api and a website that lets you sort by best prices

crimson mantle Oct 30, 2020, 6:31 PM

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@fair fog If they do, I'll have the raw data on https://sc-trade.tools 🙂 That being said, CIG themselves have said APIs are not a priority for now: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/50259/thread/external-third-party-access-is-it-possible/3420709

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SC Trade Tools

Optimized Star Citizen trade routes

fair fog Oct 30, 2020, 6:33 PM

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I meant if what fbane says comes true.
But I agree, api is not a priority

neat crane Oct 30, 2020, 6:48 PM

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When i select a location there, does that mean it will find routes that departs from the destination i choose, and then a random arrival?

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So if im at Port olisar i can find routes that depart from there

crimson mantle Oct 30, 2020, 6:50 PM

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Ah, that's quite a common question actually :)
The way the website is meant to be used is as follows:

find the best trade route for you using /trade-routes
find how to get there using /en-route

The reason why there isn't a "select origin" is because by doing so, a trader can become trapped in a loop of nonoptimal trades.

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Hope that helps!

neat crane Oct 30, 2020, 6:51 PM

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Okay, whould be really usefull tho as i can do routes from where i am, instead of having to spend time traveling to another planet without earning anything.

crimson mantle Oct 30, 2020, 6:51 PM

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As for your question exactly: selecting locations down there applies them for both arrival and departure. You can either restrict yourself to those or avoid them.

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That's the reason I made this page: https://sc-trade.tools/en-route 🙂 Feel free to give it a try

SC Trade Tools

Optimized Star Citizen trade routes

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But I may add what you describe too, as it seems it's a popular request!

neat crane Oct 30, 2020, 6:52 PM

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Okay, thank you.

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Otherwise, it could be so that you could search for example, Port olisar, and at the top there's only routes departing from Port Olisar, and then once there's no more routes from there all the other routes come under.

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If what i'm saying makes any sence.

crimson mantle Oct 30, 2020, 6:55 PM

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It does and it's good suggestions. I'll brainstorm it for a future update!

neat crane Oct 30, 2020, 6:56 PM

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Alright, enjoy your evening.

odd rose Oct 30, 2020, 7:54 PM

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i like the change for mining UI coming in 3.12

odd rose Oct 30, 2020, 8:39 PM

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when is cargo insurance coming?

last flame Oct 30, 2020, 8:59 PM

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No idea. We haven't heard anything on it for a whie

daring vale Oct 30, 2020, 9:12 PM

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Something that could probably help @crimson mantle , would be adding a "Suggested _____" section, such as Suggested Shipping routes orrrr... Suggested mining locations/resources". Just a list of routes that come recommended, like shipping Agricium between Daymar and Port Olisar.

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...or a list of suggested planets, locations and what resources should be focused on. Like listing Ariel for Taranite because Bexa is there, but in quantities too small to really profit off or, so "Go to Yela for Taranite"

upbeat pagoda Oct 30, 2020, 9:27 PM

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C2 Hercules vs Star Runner?

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I love the look of both, more so the Herc but its more expensive

last flame Oct 30, 2020, 9:30 PM

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They'll serve different purposes

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the MSR has a sizable hold, but will also have Data Running capabilities, and works like a Blockade Runner

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the C2's big-ol'-cargo

upbeat pagoda Oct 30, 2020, 9:30 PM

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How does the whole data running thing work

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Is it a virtual cargo hold that you can only access contracts for if you've got the storage for it?

last flame Oct 30, 2020, 9:31 PM

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I don't have many specifics, but there are ships dedicated to the collection and movement of data in secured servers, such as the MSR and Herald

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for things that can't be trusted over the open network

upbeat pagoda Oct 30, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Ah ok

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The Herc is beautiful

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I want it bad but its so expensive I might just have to settle for the Star Runner

last flame Oct 30, 2020, 9:32 PM

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Yeah, don't stretch yourself for a virtual space ship. All of these ships will be obtainable in-game eventually

upbeat pagoda Oct 30, 2020, 9:32 PM

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True

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How much is the Star runner

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Think the Herc is like £300

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I've already got a 325a

last flame Oct 30, 2020, 9:33 PM

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MSR was previously $225, will probably go up to around $240 when it releases

upbeat pagoda Oct 30, 2020, 9:34 PM

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But I'm not great at Combat so I think Cargo is the way to go

last flame Oct 30, 2020, 9:34 PM

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You do have some options in the middle there for Cargo that doesn't have to go quite so far

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like the Freelancer at around $110 USD, which hauls 66

upbeat pagoda Oct 30, 2020, 9:35 PM

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Yeah I dont like the look of the Freelancer or the connie really

last flame Oct 30, 2020, 9:35 PM

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The Hull-B is also going to be a small single-seat hauler that does 384

upbeat pagoda Oct 30, 2020, 9:35 PM

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The Hull's can't go atmospheric can they?

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or am I wrong about that

last flame Oct 30, 2020, 9:35 PM

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https://starcitizen.tools/Hull_B here's some details

Star Citizen Wiki

Hull B

The MISC Hull B is a more rugged option most often compared to MISC's own Freelancer. But where the Freelancer is equipped for long range exploration and other roles, the Hull B is a pure cargo transport. Hull B are often used as corporate support ships, and it is not uncommon...

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as far as I'm aware, the A and B can go atmospheric. The C can when it doesn't have cargo

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Hell, I think the D was even rated for an atmospheric landing

upbeat pagoda Oct 30, 2020, 9:37 PM

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Just a bitch to fly and without cargo?

last flame Oct 30, 2020, 9:37 PM

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The biggest thing is this is a lot of cargo for the price. It's $90 USD, which means it's just a hop and a skip from your 325A

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Here's your confirmation the B will be able to land Planetside, unless they change it closer to release

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But yeah, all that to say if you want to transition from a 325a to something more cargo-focused, you have options before you have to spend exorbant amounts of money

upbeat pagoda Oct 30, 2020, 9:40 PM

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What's cargo like for making money currently?

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Oh yeah I was hoping to just get a separate cargo ship

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Rather than upgrade

last flame Oct 30, 2020, 9:42 PM

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Ah ha

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Right now it's sketchy because of 30k risks.

upbeat pagoda Oct 30, 2020, 9:42 PM

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Yeah I've heard they're sort of dicking everyone

last flame Oct 30, 2020, 9:42 PM

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If you try it, it's recommended you do very short hauls, and not dumping your entire inventory into it

upbeat pagoda Oct 30, 2020, 9:43 PM

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I've not even got the game installed right now, I tend to come back every 6 months to see whats changed

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Waiting for persistence really

last flame Oct 30, 2020, 9:43 PM

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That's a smart way to play! I would continue to hold off until 3.11.1 drops for the expo

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but long-term persistence is in, currently. There hasn't been a wipe all year, to my understanding

upbeat pagoda Oct 30, 2020, 9:44 PM

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I was holding off on the purchase till they're both released anyway

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What's happened to the Roadmap*

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I know there was a bit of a fuss

last flame Oct 30, 2020, 9:48 PM

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The same thing that always happens with the roadmap: stuff moves around based on completion dates, and people get hyped/upset without checking the context.

crimson mantle Oct 30, 2020, 9:58 PM

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@daring vale Thanks for the feedback, I'll take it into consideration!
To be fair though, filling in the forms gets you my recommendations:

Best places for taranite: https://bit.ly/3oIzGew
Best agricium routes: https://bit.ly/3mEw3Ew

SC Trade Tools

Optimized Star Citizen trade routes

SC Trade Tools

Optimized Star Citizen trade routes

daring vale Oct 30, 2020, 10:11 PM

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While true, just having recommended presets would help immensely for beginners, as the only reason I even thought of Agricium shipping was because another website already listed it as recommended. Alas, I can no longer find that website now ._.

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Had I not stumbled across it, I would not have even known that anything other than scrap could be shipped.

last flame Oct 30, 2020, 10:12 PM

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So, the proble is, having recommended presets would actually be immensely detrimental for beginners.

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The reason being, because of the systems in place for supply and demand, most using the system would only run those recommended routes and discover they don't pay very well at all, because everyone is running them

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perhaps a new user guide on how to use the system would be more beneficial, so they can learn to spot and create their own trade routes

daring vale Oct 30, 2020, 10:14 PM

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So, offer a list of recommendations as well as a summary of how those routes were calculated. Create examples that players can use to understand how they can calculate their own routes.

last flame Oct 30, 2020, 10:14 PM

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Even if they're fake recommendations, going through the process would be a good help, yeah

daring vale Oct 30, 2020, 10:14 PM

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Also, I did not know Ita was a good source of Laranite. That should be a game changer for my mining...

last flame Oct 30, 2020, 10:15 PM

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like Scrap, right? As a new player, you're not going to be hauling scrap, but you can use Scrap as an example of how to find a route

daring vale Oct 30, 2020, 10:16 PM

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Something else that would probably help, is allowing fields in the search menu to be empty.

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I have no real idea how much a full cargo bay of Explodium costs, and I may be undercutting my profits because of this. Outside of Agricium and Medical supplies, I have no idea what else can be shipped.

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Leaving the space of what I want to ship blank, should just list the options.

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Alas, I need multiple tabs to compare the shipping costs/earnings of different goods ._.

crimson mantle Oct 30, 2020, 11:44 PM

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That's definitely some interesting ideas!
A video tutorial is in the works, so that may help somewhat. For some select presets, I'll see what I can do for the next release, but it's a reasonable ask.
As a side note: Agricium is a pretty bad commodity to ship due to its abysmal refresh rates. That's why it's not suggested often.

green sundial Oct 31, 2020, 12:05 AM

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https://robertsspaceindustries.com/media/5ejp3lp5pldekr/source/Mining-UI.png

fickle zephyr Oct 31, 2020, 12:28 AM

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I use the death trick in Lorville to avoid the trains to sell there
@north umbra how

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the business district is only accesible via train

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there is no hab there

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have you found a train from metro center to business district?

rare gate Oct 31, 2020, 12:28 AM

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theres an Admin office near the hab at Lorville

fickle zephyr Oct 31, 2020, 12:28 AM

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i find it a bummer to have to go 2 trains just to sell

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admin is not as good

rare gate Oct 31, 2020, 12:29 AM

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but it buys less than the CBD

fickle zephyr Oct 31, 2020, 12:29 AM

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its more similar to PO/levski/GH

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then i can go there insteda

rare gate Oct 31, 2020, 12:29 AM

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yep

fickle zephyr Oct 31, 2020, 12:32 AM

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i want more cats until trade works again

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stor a bunch of full cats in the space station above

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before taking them all down to the city and sell everything with one train ride

north umbra Oct 31, 2020, 1:00 AM

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@fickle zephyr land, leave your ship,nand suicide. Instead of a hike and train ride you exit the hab and a few jumps to the admin office.

fickle zephyr Oct 31, 2020, 1:09 AM

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i prefer business district/TDD

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your tactic works with a18 tdd

last flame Oct 31, 2020, 1:12 AM

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They used the death trick to avoid the train when selling Quantanium

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I don't think they have a refinery in the CBD

north umbra Oct 31, 2020, 1:13 AM

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Ya works both places

fickle zephyr Oct 31, 2020, 1:13 AM

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yes

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for mining i use it

north umbra Oct 31, 2020, 1:14 AM

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Trade or refinery? Because they are different

fickle zephyr Oct 31, 2020, 1:14 AM

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refinery

north umbra Oct 31, 2020, 1:14 AM

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Even though the one in A18 is labelled wrong

fickle zephyr Oct 31, 2020, 1:14 AM

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if i would be too far from an easier refinery

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hehe yes

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the left 2 is refinery not trade

north umbra Oct 31, 2020, 1:15 AM

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Yup

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I will check out CBD for that terminal. Is it hard to find?

fickle zephyr Oct 31, 2020, 1:16 AM

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i also land at the surface entrance at NB

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with mining

north umbra Oct 31, 2020, 1:16 AM

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Yah I know of that

fickle zephyr Oct 31, 2020, 1:16 AM

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there is no refinery at CBD

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that was when i talked about cat's

north umbra Oct 31, 2020, 1:17 AM

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Oh ok that makes sense

fickle zephyr Oct 31, 2020, 1:18 AM

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each extra cat is 4.6 million for just a small increase of credits/h

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unless you hire pilots

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you only need 2 cats to do 1 way trade route where you can claim ships at the route origin

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as long as you dont save yourelf on the way or at the end

north umbra Oct 31, 2020, 1:36 AM

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I'm just in the process of saving up for a prospector

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Got a ways to go still

coarse cape Oct 31, 2020, 3:25 AM

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same

dull olive Oct 31, 2020, 3:52 AM

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so what the deal with quat?

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when broken does it slowly loose value untill picked up

verbal cargo Oct 31, 2020, 4:50 AM

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There is a bug where it can turn inert

last flame Oct 31, 2020, 4:54 AM

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Quantanium, once broken, begins to degrade. It won't slowly lose value (save for the bug), but it will lose stability.

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When stability itself is totally lost, the Quantanium will explode, potentially destroying your ship

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You have about 15 minutes once you've broken it to get it safely to a refinery

fickle zephyr Oct 31, 2020, 5:05 AM

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broken the original big rock or once they are broken into purple?

karmic mason Oct 31, 2020, 8:53 AM

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Noob with a Mole.

karmic mason Oct 31, 2020, 11:42 AM

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hollow sedge Oct 31, 2020, 2:19 PM

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asteroid blew up. almost killed me. held backspace to reset. @karmic mason

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hollow sedge Oct 31, 2020, 2:36 PM

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looking good with that hat under your helmet @karmic mason

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little ravine Oct 31, 2020, 3:41 PM

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When stability itself is totally lost, the Quantanium will explode, potentially destroying your ship
@last flame why not hand it over to the pirate that just interdicted you?

dull olive Oct 31, 2020, 7:47 PM

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is asteroid mining working now?

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everytime i try rocks wont scan

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and the laser goes straight through

last flame Oct 31, 2020, 7:59 PM

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That happens occassionally, but not to every rock.

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So if you find an unscannable asteroid, just find another one

tardy flower Oct 31, 2020, 8:43 PM

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@dull olive better now is to mine on moon like Yela or Celine. If you need any help, just ask. In this univers, miners are all brother and sister 👍😁

digital thorn Oct 31, 2020, 9:43 PM

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so Calliope is absolutely shit for mining huh?

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all I can find are shit-tier minerals

bleak lance Oct 31, 2020, 9:46 PM

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I think best are yela or micro tech moons

digital thorn Oct 31, 2020, 9:47 PM

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Calliope is a microtech moon

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and I haven't found anything worth mining and have been here 20 minutes 😐

earnest halo Oct 31, 2020, 9:50 PM

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For mining with what ?@digital thorn

digital thorn Oct 31, 2020, 9:50 PM

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Prospector

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finding tons of Tungsten, Aluminum, Corundum and Coper, and nothing else

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also, the Mining Facilities on Calliope shoot at you? Is that normal?

fickle zephyr Oct 31, 2020, 10:09 PM

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the weather on microtech moons

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a challange

digital thorn Oct 31, 2020, 10:18 PM

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ok....so now where is the refinery at Port Tressler?

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turns out no....so basically it's not worth mining in Microtech at all

earnest halo Oct 31, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Refinery console is on micro isn't it, in NB? Or is that the only city missing one

glossy nacelle Oct 31, 2020, 10:30 PM

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So i just bought cargo for the first time from tram and myers, where would i sell it? Or does it not matter?

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Sorry super noob question

digital thorn Oct 31, 2020, 10:38 PM

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lol 45 minutes of mining on Calliope, full Prospector..... 3,300auec
Forget Microtech forever

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@glossy nacelle check out sc-trade.tools

glossy nacelle Oct 31, 2020, 10:38 PM

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Okay thanks 😋

last flame Oct 31, 2020, 11:38 PM

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New Babbage has one. It’s a bit of a trek to get to it, though.

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I’ve had good luck mining Aberdeen.

green sundial Oct 31, 2020, 11:39 PM

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@earnest halo the refinery terminal is in the admin office in The Commons area on NB

earnest halo Oct 31, 2020, 11:40 PM

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So you just need to land at the commons grounds entrance?

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That seems better than hurston or a18 at least

north umbra Oct 31, 2020, 11:41 PM

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Are asteroids known to give false positives when scanning?

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@digital thorn Its really about the minerals your scanning, collecting and how much inert your picking up

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Here is a "chart" for reference https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/723680055347249237/733143781045698570/resource.png?width=618&height=677

digital thorn Oct 31, 2020, 11:46 PM

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@north umbra , appreciate the link, but I already knew that. It was more that I literally couldn't find anything worth collecting at Calliope.

north umbra Oct 31, 2020, 11:47 PM

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Try this too: https://i.redd.it/lb6zksv2us841.png

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If you have the helix head find quant but make sure you have a short run and know how to land and get to the term

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I made 80k on a run yesterday with that

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I've been having good luck around A18/Walla and ARC L1

green sundial Nov 1, 2020, 12:25 AM

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it'll be glorious when we get refinery decks. won't have to visit A18 just to sell stuff

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 12:33 AM

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I can deal with A18 but despise Lorville.
And something tellse protection services will be needed for PO

last flame Nov 1, 2020, 3:17 AM

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I, too, despise everything about Lorville

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 3:41 AM

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If anyone is looking for assistance on a mining crew lemme know. Got some time to kill. Got a weak rental prospector.

glacial flame Nov 1, 2020, 8:11 AM

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hey so what would be a good trade route to run with a freelancer max?

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I tried a laranite run as per sc-trade tools but PO stopped buying it

past axle Nov 1, 2020, 8:29 AM

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hey looking for one more mining laser operator on mole. helix 2's all around. splitting profit. already have 2

fair fog Nov 1, 2020, 10:39 AM

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@north umbra you hate trains too?

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@past axle try having one person as 'buffer', Lancet mining head to boost ease of mining.

fickle zephyr Nov 1, 2020, 12:31 PM

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i gave it a try to haul yesterday, fist i got client crash, game loaded me back in the cat in space, and then immediatly 30k

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cargo lost

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first run

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no thanks

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srew this patch

crimson mantle Nov 1, 2020, 1:35 PM

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@glacial flame Try these https://bit.ly/3enqaIY :)
The trick is to use the refresh rate filter to make sure places will buy/sell enough!

SC Trade Tools

Optimized Star Citizen trade routes

timid plinth Nov 1, 2020, 1:51 PM

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slip and fall is frikkin dangerous!
fell 4 steps on a moon with armour and helmet... fatal injury.

tardy flower Nov 1, 2020, 1:54 PM

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Mind the step 😉

mortal linden Nov 1, 2020, 1:59 PM

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@crimson mantle I have a suggestion. Is it possible to make things that you selected move to the top of the lists? It's a small quality of life change, but I think will make UI better.

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Also, splitting "location" into 2 separate lists ("avoid" and "include" with, maybe, "only included" toggle) will make tool more flexible. But not sure about that one.

crimson mantle Nov 1, 2020, 2:03 PM

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Thanks for the feedback! That's a third party component, but I'll see what I can do.

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And yeah, people seem to have a harder time than I thought with the avoid/only selecion radio... I may need to rethink it.

tardy flower Nov 1, 2020, 2:29 PM

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@crimson mantle something i don't understand, how do you know how many deposit are on a moon and what type of ore.

I believed it was random, no?

pallid temple Nov 1, 2020, 2:34 PM

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No

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Its datamined information

crimson mantle Nov 1, 2020, 2:44 PM

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@tardy flower The general distribution information is all in the game's files: for a given volume on a given location, there's a chance of getting a cluster of deposits. Each cluster then have a chance to have X to Y rocks in it. Each rock then has a chance of having X to Y % of ore in it, etc. That's all in the game's files.
The website averages it all and gives the final OVI value.

tardy flower Nov 1, 2020, 2:48 PM

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Oh nice. Thank you @crimson mantle

hollow sedge Nov 1, 2020, 3:20 PM

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one asteroid was 10.86%. ~95k. @karmic mason

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last flame Nov 1, 2020, 3:25 PM

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I love that one 10% asteroid is basically enough to fill your Prospector

hollow sedge Nov 1, 2020, 3:41 PM

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exactly.

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 3:41 PM

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nice run

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@green sundial I know that the helix is the go to for mining heads on ships. I'm looking to maximize profits for the rental prospector and the helix is too costly being that between the rental and head your looking at 141,000ue and have a huge risk and have to be extra careful as to not do anything to your ship.
As the costs of other heads are around 1/2 that of the helix would any of those be similar in effectiveness? I checked your guide but looking for more personal experience.
Stock head on the rental can struggle with rocks from 2500 to 4500 in mass and looking to get rid of that limitation

hollow sedge Nov 1, 2020, 3:44 PM

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I was using the helix on the prospector

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 3:47 PM

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Yes I know but the issue is that if you crash the rental with a different head its gone and you have to rebuy

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Considering the range in value of your loads when doing runs it becomes a loss very fast

hollow sedge Nov 1, 2020, 3:48 PM

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Hmmm. Good question. You could try the cheaper lasers. I know the default laser won't bust some valuable asteroids or rocks.

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 3:48 PM

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Exactly. Which is why I'm curious if the less expensive might do the same. I know they present certain risks when mining but they are also half the cost

hollow sedge Nov 1, 2020, 3:48 PM

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I'm not sure about effectiveness.

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Sorry.

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mining
https://space4games.com/en/games-en/star-citizen-mining/
hand mining, prospector, mole.

SPACE4GAMES

Benjamin Danneberg

Star Citizen Mining: The ultimate guide | S4G

Where are the best spots for mining? Which resources bring profit? What is Quantainium & which Mining Heads do I need? Our tips will definitely help.

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those are some details I use.

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You should ask a more experienced player about what to do. I've only had the game a couple weeks.

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 3:50 PM

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Hence the ask to Sunder 😉

main saddle Nov 1, 2020, 4:05 PM

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I was using the Hofstede. It's 12750auec. There are still some rocks it won't bust, but I have mined Quantainium with it. You just have to get close. The Klein is a little more powerful, but increases laser instability by 50%. I haven't tried the Klein, so I can't speak to what the effects of that are in actual use. I upgraded from the Hofstede to a Helix yesterday.

hollow sedge Nov 1, 2020, 4:16 PM

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@north umbra you could start with an affordable laser and work your way up.

green sundial Nov 1, 2020, 4:19 PM

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@north umbra the rental will do fine for most rocks though depending on resistance and mass. It'll certainly bust most Agricium rocks. Eventually they'll get rid of the bug letting you change the stock head on the rental though. I'd pick up a Prospector with 10 year insurance when the MISC sale comes later this month

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 4:21 PM

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That would have to be a steep discount. It's 145 USD and since I pay CAD not worth it.
I had issues with a 2500 mass rock today and that was frustrating.

green sundial Nov 1, 2020, 4:21 PM

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ah ic

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what was the resistance on that rock?

hollow sedge Nov 1, 2020, 4:22 PM

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shown in double means...?

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green sundial Nov 1, 2020, 4:23 PM

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@hollow sedge that guide hasn't been update since 3.9. Mine is current: https://testsquadron.com/threads/the-complete-test-squadron-mining-guide-v3-11.18088/

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looks like its a UI bug

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nothing to worry over

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 4:24 PM

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@green sundial Don't recall resistance but that is another reason I am looking for options

green sundial Nov 1, 2020, 4:25 PM

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gotcha

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it has to have been bigger than .40ish

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 4:26 PM

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I know its the premise is too try out ships but I feel cargo runs or something else os more profitable

green sundial Nov 1, 2020, 4:27 PM

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that may very well be but once we have refining in and we're able to sell refined products the profit off mined stuff will shoot up too

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trading has a big advantage in quantity moved atm

crimson mantle Nov 1, 2020, 4:27 PM

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Keeping in mind they might balance the current ore prices lower, and keep their current value for the "refined" materials

green sundial Nov 1, 2020, 4:27 PM

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that is also a great possibility

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if we could 'store' ore to be refined and then ship the refined stuff that would be the best solution

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then people could mine whatever, store it up, and then bulk process it

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I'd love to start bulk mining again with a Mole if that happened

clever gale Nov 1, 2020, 4:33 PM

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Best cargo ship to rent for trading?

hollow sedge Nov 1, 2020, 4:37 PM

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Thank you very much @green sundial I have placed the 3.11 guide above my other link for 3.9.

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mining

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 4:42 PM

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@green sundial Does each head have a effective resistance value? Your chart only shows the bonus applied. Like what is the resistance the Arbor isn't good for?

green sundial Nov 1, 2020, 4:47 PM

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no nothing shows that

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that only comes from experience using the Arbor

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the Arbor just....sucks

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it can work but it really sucks

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 4:48 PM

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Lol ya

fickle zephyr Nov 1, 2020, 4:51 PM

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one 10% quantanium rock will fill your prospector, with beryl, quartz and intert material 👌

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i havent been able to fill the MOLE with much more than 50% of the cargo anyway before time is up

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if im alone

main saddle Nov 1, 2020, 5:04 PM

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one 10% quantanium rock will fill your prospector, with beryl, quartz and inert material 👌
lol ikr? 🤣

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 5:06 PM

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Yah been trying to get on a crew to split some profts. Really want to own the propector. I would even sell my cutlass towards it.
I like the quant risk vs reward as it adds up super fast

main saddle Nov 1, 2020, 5:09 PM

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I ended up buying a prospector in game last weekend. used up my auec I was saving up. bought the helix yesterday after running ECN's and bounties at Hurston.

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I have a Cutty for those

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 5:10 PM

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ECNs?

main saddle Nov 1, 2020, 5:11 PM

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ecn alerts

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NPC emergencies - there's one that pays 10k for popping 4 connies

fickle zephyr Nov 1, 2020, 5:12 PM

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when you get the >200k adrenaline/dopamine kicks in

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 5:12 PM

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yeah haven't upgraded my cutty yet

fickle zephyr Nov 1, 2020, 5:13 PM

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when you find that field with 2 rocks of 15% and 2-3 with 5-10%

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and have a MOLE

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 5:14 PM

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I came into 6 rocks al lwith quant last night

main saddle Nov 1, 2020, 5:15 PM

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what's annoying is landing with a load of quant and the terminal won't let you store the ship -- only claim it 😐

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 5:15 PM

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ouch lol

main saddle Nov 1, 2020, 5:16 PM

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talk about sweatin'

fickle zephyr Nov 1, 2020, 5:17 PM

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seanangry

main saddle Nov 1, 2020, 5:18 PM

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my favorite story, though is A18. Had my biggest haul of quant yet and QT put me several from Riker, so it was gonna be 5 min or more to fly it. I decided to QT up to Baijini so that I'd QT back down closer. Well, from Baijini, the QT took me way out to the side of A18 and then flew me in almost at ground level toward A18. Yeah, well... smacked into the skyscrapers and blew up

fickle zephyr Nov 1, 2020, 5:19 PM

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ouch

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that happened to me in a cat, and then next time again with the cat but was lucky it ended up in a house-less area that time

main saddle Nov 1, 2020, 5:20 PM

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Last weekend, I happened to be at Baijini and tried to QT down to A18 with a mixed load. It tried to do it again, but I realized what was happening and killed power

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the only time QT ever killed me was when I had my first big haul of quant, lol

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it's the AI..

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 5:22 PM

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never had QT kill me... but the weirdest is sometimes I'll double tap F or something and my ship just decides to blast into the rock I'm mining and kill me

fickle zephyr Nov 1, 2020, 5:24 PM

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what shield do you use?

main saddle Nov 1, 2020, 5:24 PM

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yeah, keys'll get ya. I hit Y a few times yesterday while doing combat

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Rental prospector 😛

main saddle Nov 1, 2020, 5:24 PM

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so, bulwark is stock shield

fickle zephyr Nov 1, 2020, 5:25 PM

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i notice a difference with palisade

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its not as dangerous

main saddle Nov 1, 2020, 5:26 PM

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i haven't upgraded. oh.. it's only 23200 -- not too bad

fickle zephyr Nov 1, 2020, 5:27 PM

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your still far from invincible 😄

main saddle Nov 1, 2020, 5:27 PM

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well, yeah 🙂

fickle zephyr Nov 1, 2020, 5:27 PM

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but can deal with a bit more fumbling and rock explosions

main saddle Nov 1, 2020, 5:28 PM

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I haven't blown myself up yet. I got knocked up a couple thousand meters tho

fickle zephyr Nov 1, 2020, 5:29 PM

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i most often get the cargo bags blown off

main saddle Nov 1, 2020, 5:30 PM

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eww

fickle zephyr Nov 1, 2020, 5:30 PM

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but then i can fill them up again after but the bags are still gone

main saddle Nov 1, 2020, 5:30 PM

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lol ok

fickle zephyr Nov 1, 2020, 5:31 PM

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most annoying is when i bump into a rock with the laser and then i sit there with a broken laser and 5 rich agricium rocks

main saddle Nov 1, 2020, 5:31 PM

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ouch

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 5:32 PM

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god I hate A18 and their door closing issues

main saddle Nov 1, 2020, 5:32 PM

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A18 and Lorville too

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 5:32 PM

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Lorville is not nearly as bad as A18

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and being that you switch to VTOL in Lor/A18 it makes things way to challenging at times

main saddle Nov 1, 2020, 5:38 PM

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yeah, it's hard to keep the ship level and look around for the landing bay in VTOL

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 5:38 PM

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Alright trying the hof on this rental

fickle zephyr Nov 1, 2020, 5:38 PM

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ill stick to levski until crusader have calmed down

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 5:39 PM

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GH isn't much better some days

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Or you going elsewhere?

fickle zephyr Nov 1, 2020, 5:39 PM

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i have used PO

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when people didnt lock missiles on you on the landing pad

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 5:39 PM

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I won't even dare to go around PO

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last time in that area I got boarded by pirates

main saddle Nov 1, 2020, 5:40 PM

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yeah, I pretty much avoid landing at PO

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 5:40 PM

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I was mid mining and all of a sudden pirates

fickle zephyr Nov 1, 2020, 5:41 PM

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pvp pirates?

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 5:41 PM

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Yup. Wanted 20k or elese

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so mostly been hanging out in A18 sector

fickle zephyr Nov 1, 2020, 5:42 PM

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boarded, with ROC+

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mid prospector flying

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i have only been attacked close to outposts or station

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its the selling part that keeps me away from crusader now

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 5:45 PM

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Hurston/A18 are my sectors. MT is too windy for the prosp, GH can be hit or miss. Crusader is just bad

fickle zephyr Nov 1, 2020, 5:45 PM

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it sounds like some above agerage skilled pirates

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how can i join

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Pirates? lol you don't want to be one of those

fickle zephyr Nov 1, 2020, 5:46 PM

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hehe why not

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its trading where you dont need to buy or mine the cargo

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but it has to be real game mechanics for it, just extorting someone in the chat feels boring

pallid temple Nov 1, 2020, 5:48 PM

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Well you can steal the cargo from the ROC @fickle zephyr

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 5:48 PM

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my issue was that you needed capital to make trading worth it and with servers dropping it made it risky. ROC never made me much because I could only haul in 20-30% loads so I went to ship mining

pallid temple Nov 1, 2020, 5:48 PM

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So there

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 5:48 PM

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lol yup

fickle zephyr Nov 1, 2020, 5:48 PM

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yes

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its most fun when you just outsmart the miner instead of violence

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it also makes it more interesting to mine

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or trade like coming out of tram&myers just filled my cat and there is an arrow shooting my cat

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that when the adrenaline pumps

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id gladly loose trading cargo to stuff like that if we didnt also have to deal with loosing it 10 times to bugs for every pirate or griefer

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i just hope there will be a reasonable balance when the game starts to come together so its possible to both soloplay and play with escort

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maybe there is something super valuable we want deep inside vanduul space

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 6:10 PM

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so far not impressed with the hof

fickle zephyr Nov 1, 2020, 6:11 PM

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there will be places where its criminal to mine also like player owned land

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pirate-miner

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find a place where a big cluster often spawn and claim the land

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build a base with AI defence

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I just stick to levsky, but it limits me to only mine close asteroids for quant or have a long travel and stay away from quant

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i guess there could be a delayed effect after the event ends before crusader becomes more like pre 3.11 if it will ever happen

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talk less, play more, i talk to much

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 6:30 PM

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I might check out Levski

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but I don't like the issues with asteroids

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mind you the issues I've had with asteroids happened planet side now

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Too bad Inert is so cheap 😄

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fickle zephyr Nov 1, 2020, 6:34 PM

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ouch

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 6:34 PM

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lol playing around with this mining head

fickle zephyr Nov 1, 2020, 6:36 PM

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does it take consumeables?

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 6:36 PM

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trying to keep costs to a minimum

last flame Nov 1, 2020, 7:14 PM

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Which mining head are you using?

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 7:14 PM

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I was using the Hof and now switched to Klein

last flame Nov 1, 2020, 7:14 PM

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Might be worth seeing if you can collect Diamond or Gold

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 7:15 PM

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A 6600/.30 rock gave me troubles with the Hof

hollow sedge Nov 1, 2020, 7:46 PM

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152k of Quantainium.

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main saddle Nov 1, 2020, 7:48 PM

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nice!

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I just sold some borase. Some random asteroid I found 😄

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north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 7:49 PM

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nice haul!

main saddle Nov 1, 2020, 7:49 PM

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almost 44k haul for me

hollow sedge Nov 1, 2020, 7:49 PM

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one asteroid had about 10% Quan. and the other had about 5%. I split them both and then quickly grabbed it all.

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I almost blew up though, my ship was beeping as I landed.

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 7:50 PM

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lol I hope in upcoming updates your mobi will give you indication as well

main saddle Nov 1, 2020, 7:50 PM

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yeah, that's when your hands get shaky and you're bouncing off walls trying to land, lol

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 7:51 PM

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where were you landing?

hollow sedge Nov 1, 2020, 7:51 PM

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the ship didn't beep in quantum drive, then it was beeping like crazy as I thrustered in.

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port olisar, asteroids were at CRU something nearby. my map is frozen, so i can't look it up

main saddle Nov 1, 2020, 7:53 PM

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landing at PO? One eye on the radar lock indicator and another on the timer 🙂

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 7:53 PM

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Not as swell as you guys but diamonds paid out

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main saddle Nov 1, 2020, 7:54 PM

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nice. at least diamonds don't go kablooey

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 7:55 PM

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I think for the rental the Klein is the way to go

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the instability bit sucks but it isn't that bad

main saddle Nov 1, 2020, 7:56 PM

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my mouse has a really ratchety scroll wheel, so any adjustments to the laser are in steps 😦 takes some finesse

fickle zephyr Nov 1, 2020, 7:58 PM

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i do one click on the scroll wheel and it goes 0.1% another one and it goes 0.1% and then on the third it goes up 5% waitwhat

main saddle Nov 1, 2020, 7:58 PM

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😅

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 7:59 PM

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its usually the server lag which really hurts me

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5%, 20%, 30%, 99% .. WARNING

fickle zephyr Nov 1, 2020, 7:59 PM

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yeah

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 7:59 PM

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abort abort reverse reverse

fickle zephyr Nov 1, 2020, 8:00 PM

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klein instability could be good practice for quantanium

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 8:01 PM

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the klein is cool you'll see like red blasts coming out of the asteroids

fickle zephyr Nov 1, 2020, 8:01 PM

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a 900kg rock with 50% quantinium can be very tricky without consumeables

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 8:04 PM

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I wonder what the max distance away you want to be from a port when mining quant

wheat garden Nov 1, 2020, 8:11 PM

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just got a roc anyone up for some mining? also I just need recommendations for locations Im new

fickle zephyr Nov 1, 2020, 8:13 PM

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arial and aberdeen seem like popular places but you need pembroke armour and water

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arial is a little hotter and the one that require water, but it has a landscape easier to mine in

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and watch out for pirates

wheat garden Nov 1, 2020, 8:15 PM

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k thx guys

main saddle Nov 1, 2020, 8:15 PM

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i popped a hadanite rock last night with the prospector and got out to pick up gems. after I picked up 14, i fell through the ground. i died when the temp reached 600+C. Fortunately, my inventory kept the gems.

wheat garden Nov 1, 2020, 8:16 PM

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nice

main saddle Nov 1, 2020, 8:18 PM

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yeah, we tend to live in faith that the ground won't open up and swallow us. It generally applies, but tell that to the guy in NY that fell into the rats 😅

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hmm

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Is it worth it? I'm 12+M km from the nearest refinery

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wheat garden Nov 1, 2020, 8:36 PM

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anyone able to help me go roc mining

main saddle Nov 1, 2020, 8:50 PM

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Holy smokes, I did it, lol.

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wheat garden Nov 1, 2020, 8:50 PM

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nice

main saddle Nov 1, 2020, 8:51 PM

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i screwed up tho... missed another fragment that had 22% quant. after I'd started extracting the others.

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didn't notice it until too late, lol

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the green zone on those was like 5 pixels, lol

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it was an 18 mil km trip to the refinery

dense crescent Nov 1, 2020, 8:54 PM

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lol

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that's risky

main saddle Nov 1, 2020, 8:54 PM

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yeah, lol

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i'm using a Voyager qt drive I had on hand

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 9:42 PM

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So how are you supposed to tell if a location is going to accept the cargo you're bringing?

crimson mantle Nov 1, 2020, 10:13 PM

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@north umbra You can look it up here: https://sc-trade.tools/commodities
Then check the refresh rate to see how much it buys at a time.

SC Trade Tools

Optimized Star Citizen trade routes

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 10:14 PM

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Ok so that isn't accurate 😉

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Unless I'm reading it wrong

crimson mantle Nov 1, 2020, 10:14 PM

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It's perfectly accurate, as per the game's files 🙂

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But no-one can hook into the game's servers at this time 😢

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So yes, for rare/pricy stuff, it's a bit of a dice roll

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 10:15 PM

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I wanted to test that actually. So I was at A18 TDD and picked up some waste. That site says you should be able to sell at the RT in A18 .. no such luck. Went to HDMS-Hadley again no such luck. Went to PO.. no such luck

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just as an example

crimson mantle Nov 1, 2020, 10:16 PM

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Hum, interesting.
If there was a way to load waste into a prospector, I'm sure it would sell actually. The RT are a bit quirky: they're actually just regular shops, but will only buy from the prospector.

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Thanks for the observation!

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 10:17 PM

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I'm using my Cutlass now

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So maybe refinery terminals don't recognize the Cutlass?

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lol got a crime stat x2 at T&M 😦

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 11:08 PM

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Ok so this time I took some Scrap from GH and now I have a CS x 2 again

main saddle Nov 1, 2020, 11:12 PM

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made 50k from another borase rock. how'd you get a CS with scrap?

north umbra Nov 1, 2020, 11:13 PM

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I don't know. I got a x2 CS when I picked up Laranite from Tramar earlier

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LOL and now the crim stat is gone

main saddle Nov 1, 2020, 11:14 PM

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weird

last flame Nov 1, 2020, 11:15 PM

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Borase is an absolute hell to try and mine

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that shit will not stick to one clump

main saddle Nov 1, 2020, 11:17 PM

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i haven't mined enough to notice that. what do you mean about not sticking to one clump?

pallid temple Nov 1, 2020, 11:18 PM

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It doesn't break well