industrial-professions

[hollow sedge]

And what mining place is best to spawn it?

[serene quest]

I believe area 18 and Loreville for rentals

Any mining place

With the changes you should probably try and find the most inhospitable planets to spawn

[hollow sedge]

So how much does the vehicle make an hour?

[serene quest]

Depends

After changes should be a bit less

[hollow sedge]

I need to know all details.

[serene quest]

But I was clearing anywhere between 120-140k an hour

Before 3.11

Shouldn’t be too different now if you’re focused on hadanite deposites

[hollow sedge]

Ah so do scans point it out?

[serene quest]

Point what out?

[hollow sedge]

The type of rocks.

[serene quest]

If you scan them fully yes

Right click will scan locations

Left click will scan rocks

Once you’re close enough

[hollow sedge]

How does the collection process work?

[serene quest]

Swap to collect then leave the beam on over the rocks (purple) until you generate enough suction to pull them up

Takes anywhere between 2-10 seconds

[hollow sedge]

Fancy.

[serene quest]

Also I’d recommend setting aside 15k for Novikov or Pembroke armors

[hollow sedge]

Would area 18 be a good mining spot?

[serene quest]

You can find decent locations on Microtech. But as I mentioned, as per 3.11 the spawn rate of certain types of mineables increases with how inhospitable a planet is

[hollow sedge]

Hmm.

[serene quest]

(The harder it is to survive on the surface the rarer the mineral)

[hollow sedge]

So Lorville somewhere.

[serene quest]

Hot plate planet sure

[hollow sedge]

How much does the mining gun make?

[pallid temple]

As in the greycat multitool? That entirely depends on what you mine and how much

[hollow sedge]

Like how much is one rock of laranite worth?

[pallid temple]

You can't really calculate that

[hollow sedge]

What’s the most you can make from one rock.

[pallid temple]

Again you can't really calculate it, there's a lot of variables to consider

[hollow sedge]

For real what’s the average.

[pallid temple]

Average Prospector run if you don't touch Quantanium is around 80k

[hollow sedge]

That’s a lot.

Might buy the gun.

I know that’s not what I will get all the time.

[pallid temple]

Yeah if you buy the greycat multitool, you can't mine Laranite or Agricium

[hollow sedge]

Ah ok.

[pallid temple]

You can only mine Hadanite, Aphorite or Dolivine

[hollow sedge]

I will try YELA to mine.

[pallid temple]

If you're going FPS mining, you'll need to go to caves on planets or moons

[hollow sedge]

What does FPS stand for?

[pallid temple]

First Person Shooter

[coarse cape]

Is it good to have a second armor set for mining?

Or just have one for everything

[crimson mantle]

@hollow sedge If you feel like it, you can gauge the relative "ore richness" of locations here: https://sc-trade.tools/mining

[frank grove]

Is it good to have a second armor set for mining?
@coarse cape

Actually, good to have two separate sets. The hot environment suit, and the cold environment suit. Can get both at Tammany and Sons in Lorville, ~15k each

[pallid temple]

You can't get both at Lorville

[hollow sedge]

Looking for people for cargo

Dm me

What planet has the best surface rocks for hand mining?

Or moon.

[pallid temple]

FPS mineable rocks on the surface of moons/planets are very rare

FPS mining is done in caves

[hollow sedge]

What planet has the most caves?

Or quantum travel caves.

[pallid temple]

Caves aren't marked, you accept investigation contracts that lead you to a cave

[hollow sedge]

I don’t get those.

ROC still decent in 3.11? Ik ore gen got a nerf but not to what extent

[hollow sedge]

Why isn’t it working?

Please help.

[calm solar]

looks like no ammo @hollow sedge

[hollow sedge]

It uses ammo?

[pallid temple]

@hollow sedge What's your SC handle?

[hollow sedge]

Aw man.

[pallid temple]

It doesn't use ammo

[hollow sedge]

Now I have to go buy ammo.

What?

He just said.

Or she.

[calm solar]

then what is the 0?

[hollow sedge]

The prison one showed the same.

Now it shows this.

[pallid temple]

Its bugged out, but I have a spare multitool you can have

[calm solar]

lmao

[hollow sedge]

I just bought it.

[calm solar]

nms

[hollow sedge]

How do I turn it on?

[pallid temple]

You need the mining attachment

[calm solar]

go to #flight-combat-racing

[hollow sedge]

Oh there’s an attachment?

[pallid temple]

Yes

[hollow sedge]

Does it come with the gun?

ROC still decent in 3.11? IK ore gen got a nerf but not to what extent
;^(

[pallid temple]

No @hollow sedge

[hollow sedge]

That’s dumb.

Going back to ArcCorp then.

[pallid temple]

Don't go back to ArcCorp

I just said I have a spare one

[hollow sedge]

Oh?

And?

[pallid temple]

I can give the spare one to you

[hollow sedge]

How?

[calm solar]

trade

[hollow sedge]

In game?

[pallid temple]

We can meet up in the same server and then assuming it doesn't freak out, I can just equip the mining attachment onto my tool and then drop it

[hollow sedge]

Ok.

I have to park somewhere.

I will try port ollisar.

[spiral thunder]

Is it good to get aphorite when mining?

[pallid temple]

Yes

[spiral thunder]

Nice thanks

[mossy meteor]

What do you guys think a Prospector could make on average an hour?

[pallid temple]

I'm just about to head to PO, just picking up the new weapons at GrimHEX @hollow sedge

[hollow sedge]

What server are you in?

[pallid temple]

We can party launch together, my server's full

[hollow sedge]

Going to main menu.

[pallid temple]

What's your SC handle?

[hollow sedge]

What does that mean?

[pallid temple]

Alright, you can add me as a friend from the main menu, my SC handle is Doctor-Introvertsius

[hollow sedge]

Sent.

Ok you accepted.

[pallid temple]

I sent you a party invite

[hollow sedge]

I got it.

So you want me to give you the gun I bought so you can give me the one with the attachment correct?

[pallid temple]

Yeah

We'll work that out once we're in

[hollow sedge]

I’m in some port.

Port ollisar.

Want to meet up some where?

How do I open party chat?

Nvm.

[steep jasper]

I just got a cutlass black. Should I even bother running cargo for profit? Does it have enough room?

[serene quest]

@mossy meteor i was pulling roughly 80k/hr on prospector

[hollow sedge]

How do you take minerals out of the ROC?

[pallid temple]

Cargo hatch on the back

[hollow sedge]

Also where can you buy it?

[pallid temple]

Lorville

172k

[hollow sedge]

I have 200K when I used to have 40K

Thanks man.

You helped me a lot.

You don’t have to take the roc in a ship to sell the stuff right?

I hope not.

[pallid temple]

No

[hollow sedge]

Good.

[hollow sedge]

Ok now how do I scan with the ROC?

[slow turret]

press tab then hold right click until the circle completes then release right click

[hollow sedge]

Help I can’t flip the roc back over.

[lean heart]

Arial is best planet for mining with roc?

[verbal cargo]

aberdeen

arial close second tho

[tacit mauve]

Ok let’s talk the ROC and Freelancer. I know it doesn’t fit properly but has anyone been able to jank it in? I’m curious

[honest agate]

Speaking of ROC. Since Arial isn't the hotspot anymore. Can I now be able to viably mine anywhere?

[tacit mauve]

It fits

Holy shit I’m surprised how well that worked

Very minor jank, just be careful going up the ramp but once the front tires are entering the actual cargo area gun it a little to get past the ramp hydraulics.

Tip: there is a line painted on the interior door leading out of the cargo hold in the Freelancer; make sure tour reticule is centered while in the ROC (press F and release) and line that up exactly with the line in that door

When taking it out, reverse immediately after turning on the engine so it doesn’t start sliding; don’t be careful backing it out, just full reverse immediately.

[serene quest]

@hollow sedge as I mentioned earlier, the fix seems to be to get in and power it down. It should right itself

[hollow sedge]

Ok I have been looking around for hours for a hot spot for medium node, but I can’t find non.

[tacit mauve]

@hollow sedge Yelp works. Aberdeen and Ariel are also good spots.

[lean heart]

on aberdeen can i call the roc?

[green sundial]

anywhere that has a Platinum Bay(the blue building at the outpost) will let you spawn it

[lean heart]

Is there a point in aberdeen with the blue house?

[green sundial]

I can't remember tbh

but I believe so

I remember spawning a ROC at one of the outposts in 3.10

Anderson should have it

[fast briar]

After updating, me Helix is gone on Prospector... And can't modify ship as it's locked...? Any suggestions??

[upper gulch]

Roc is buggy atm tho

It will bounce around and do awful things on you.

When you spawn it in, it can be floating in the air.

[tacit mauve]

It just shot me through the core of Aberdeen and into space

[hollow sedge]

I have been working for 7 hours, and haven’t made a profit because everything I do blows up in my face.

I keep having 30000 errors, my ROC keeps flipping, and it just self destructed for no reason which is a terrible design for a damn rover.

[serene quest]

give it a few days

let 3.11 sort itself out

[hollow sedge]

What’s the best mining facility on Hurston for my ROC?

[serene quest]

it's pretty random bud, just fly around and scout.

[visual karma]

ive been doing titanium from handek to lorville for a while but does anyone know anything else for better profit?

[vestal plume]

just spawned a fresh ROC, can't get the mining laser to fire. Settings are as they were, can't figure out the issue.

[serene quest]

did you turn it off and back on again?

@visual karma https://sc-trade.tools/

[junior orchid]

Guys, AM I right if I do trade route for example HDMS-Bezdek -> CBD-Lorville and bezdek has no laranite its just bad luck and have to find other route or am I doing something wrong ? Can SCtools show me available comodity in real time?

[sullen sand]

Hey there, I'm denym and I started recently doing cargo hauls since mining by hand took more than just my ingame assets from me. Yesterday I started out with my Freelancer and humble 20_000 UEC to haul for some profit when suddenly I got randomly disconnected (not even 30k) while waiting to sell my Medical Supplies at Bud's Growery. Naturally I woke up at Port Olisar and had left 8 UEC in my pockets. I'm hereby asking for a small loan of 10_000 UEC to start over again. I hope someone will be able to provide me that service. o/

[mossy meteor]

Feelsbadman @sullen sand Ill help you out

[hollow sedge]

I will also help you

@sullen sand

@sullen sand i sended u 20k 😉

[slow tangle]

hey wants to play/

[spare mulch]

anyone have a recommendation of where to mine with the roc?

[mossy canyon]

Give Arial a try @spare mulch

[frank grove]

anyone have a recommendation of where to mine with the roc?
@spare mulch

https://sc-trade.tools/mining

Damn useful tool. The creator is here often too. I find Aberdeen, on the side that doesn't have a lot of QT beacons, has been quite profitable for me so far, but my experience is limited

[hollow sedge]

I’m making more money off FPS mining than using the ROC.

[sullen sand]

@mossy meteor @hollow sedge thank you so much that helps me gettign back on my feet 🙂

[hollow sedge]

Dude I got 250K credits worth of rocks from mining.

[digital thorn]

anyone know where the illegal trade terminals are at the new stations? Specifically Everus Harbor.

[languid pilot]

anyone else notice that the ARGO MOLE UI is kinda bugged

the main one

you can't see the percentages of each ore

if everybody could pls upvote this issue

it's a really annoying bug

[ornate rock]

rule 6 and #bug-hunt-chat my dude

[languid pilot]

my bad, didn't know sorry

[fleet rivet]

Guys anyone want's to do some roc runs with me?

[hollow sedge]

Hey,

If I go somewhere that’s farther away from where I mined will the value go up?

[ornate rock]

no, right now mineral prices are the same everywhere

[hollow sedge]

Aight cool.

I have to sell one rock at a time lmao.

[dense crescent]

Best argo mining location?

[hollow sedge]

What’s the cheapest space mining vehicle?

[dense crescent]

The prospector

[hollow sedge]

Bruh.

[dense crescent]

I think it’s 2.2 Million irc?

or $155 USD of you want that route

[hollow sedge]

I now have 430K 300I here we go.

[dense crescent]

Nice

[hollow sedge]

Just from FPS mining.

[dense crescent]

That’s pretty good

[hollow sedge]

I just wish I could sell it out of my backpack faster.

Hmm I sell the dolivine, and the other minerals value goes up.

That’s cool.

[pallid temple]

The values don't change

[hollow sedge]

The units go up.

[sullen sand]

ok WTF. Thanks to the honorable Donators (@uncut krakenie @hollow sedge ) I was able to get my cargo hauling business up and running again. Unfortunately the QT decided the best way to get to a point is through a planet... I'm kinda done with this game tbh. Just FYI Cellin OM1 to Hickes Research Outpost seems to broken....

[hollow sedge]

Yeah.

That’s happens.

@sullen sand if u need a couple more credits just send me a text

[sullen sand]

yeh kinda 😦 This time I woke up with 2 UEC. If it doesn't hurt your pocket since I can't promise to pay back in time I would appreciate another loan

[hollow sedge]

Holy shi-

I will transfer another loan as soon as i can

[sullen sand]

is the QT Planet hit just a rare bug or something I have to expect more often?

[hollow sedge]

It never happen to me

So no idea

I built it up to 50K for a 30000 error to happen...

[verbal cargo]

ok WTF. Thanks to the honorable Donators (@uncut krakenie @hollow sedge ) I was able to get my cargo hauling business up and running again. Unfortunately the QT decided the best way to get to a point is through a planet... I'm kinda done with this game tbh. Just FYI Cellin OM1 to Hickes Research Outpost seems to broken....
@sullen sand cargo is not worth the risk to make money. Try deliveries or mining, bounty hunting, ANYTHING but cargo, with every new update it takes a few patches to resolve bugs and then the game is enjoyable to play again,

[hollow sedge]

Hey don’t spend all your money on buying a trade.

Use like half.

Or less.

Just in case.

That’s what I did.

[verbal cargo]

made enough money off ROC mining to buy a cutty and prospector and still have 1,000,000 left over, no investment to worry about losing to 30k or bugs

with all the roc bugs now i'm not even bothering to play until they release a patch or two to stabilize 3.11, not worth my time and frustration

[sullen sand]

Yeah unfortunately I took the risk to pay back my loan. I have to find some better strategies. And mining is currently no option because I need a ship first and mining by hand killed me already 5 times.

[hollow sedge]

30K is stupid.

[verbal cargo]

take the freelancer out and grind those 8k delivery missions

[sullen sand]

though about this but getting to a constellation with that seems impossible. So I though I give hauling a try and I get aroudn to see alot of locations

[verbal cargo]

i miss the old new babbage rooftop deliveries, cleared about 100k in a run which was great for starting out. hope they bring them back one day

[hollow sedge]

I now have 500K

Lmao this is amazing.

So close to the 300I one run to go.

[verbal cargo]

@sullen sand sent a friend request. I'll send ya some cash, go rent a prospector for a day and make some cash

[sullen sand]

@verbal cargo thank you very much. I will do that. I will check some guides and helpers to not screw this up

[hollow sedge]

Same, @sullen sand , i will send a friend request and some money

[sullen sand]

@hollow sedge Also a big thank you to you too

[hollow sedge]

Does the space station orbiting crusader have food?

[verbal cargo]

@hollow sedge should be food in the gun shop, water in casaba

[sullen sand]

If the water in casaba is empty to outside and on the other hub

[wraith axle]

i think i just lost 700k in the most shameful way

[verbal cargo]

don't say cargo 😂

[wraith axle]

😅

I kinda sorta landed my cat on a pad on a moon and it culled out of existence

[verbal cargo]

oof, thats a tough punch to the gut

[wraith axle]

it stored on the moon with cargo in it

[errant nova]

whoever was complaining about QT into moons earlier, that happened to me the other day.

got QT'd into an asteroid chasing a bounty

[sullen sand]

30K YOOORAY!

[wraith axle]

you cant claim a ship on a moon right?

[mossy meteor]

@sullen sand Your welcome to join me and friends on a Trading journey so you can save up some cash

[hollow sedge]

UwU

[sullen sand]

@mossy meteor thanks for the offer I'm finished for tonight but added you to join up sometimes 🙂

[wet trench]

Besides Crusader, has anyone had any luck ROC mining for Hadanite somewhere else?

[gritty galleon]

yeah

i mine on daymar I think it is

it has a shublin mining facility

[unique lion]

Arial around Hurston used to spawn exclusively hadanite

It doesn't anymore, but I doubt it got removed fully. Unsure if it has anything special like higher spawn rates or not

[round lintel]

Arial was useful because despite how few and far between nodes were they were always hadanite

Now you're better off just going yo Daymar and filling up your hold with whatever you find

Takes like fourty minutes yo fill up like that for 100-150k

[knotty nymph]

Regarding the prospector, I assume changing saddlebags still aren't implemented?

[hollow sedge]

Don't believe so
Where's good to ROC mine currently? actually, is it viable to mine on planets?

[vestal plume]

I'm hearing some bad reports of the whole ROC experience being buggy, but if you can make it work then Arial is still good, and Amberdeen (sp?) possibly. But lots of bugs.

You can sort of mitigate the bug with parking by engaging and disengaging the mining laser

But some folks aren't getting it to work at all, some can't get it to pick up the goodies

I couldn't get anything to go well except figuring out the parking game

[knotty nymph]

Am I missing something? Currently in the biz district at Lorville, Prospector filled up on minerals.

[dense crescent]

@knotty nymph You're at trade terminal

Not a refinery terminal

[knotty nymph]

Ahhhh alright thanks @dense crescent

[dense crescent]

np, good luck!

[tacit mauve]

Is there a list of everywhere that hadanite exists?

[prime oasis]

Whats the best thing to do with a rented prospector atm? Im just looking for diamond and titanium at daymar but i dunno

[tacit mauve]

Daymar, Yela, Cellin, and the asteroids around Grim Hex are all good spots

Look for laranite and agricium when you can get it (rare) and diamond, titanium, and gold otherwise but only in pure quantities (it’s worth it to pick up a rock that maybe only has 50% laranite but not gold, you want near 100% purity for more common stuff)

[obtuse night]

Not sure I’d mine anywhere near Grim Hex at the moment

[frank grove]

Is there a list of everywhere that hadanite exists?
@tacit mauve

Right here: https://sc-trade.tools/mining

And for the record, Dolovine is not as good, but it is still stupidly valuable compared to anything that can be mined with a ship.

[digital thorn]

not really cargo or mining...but does anyone know how the Terrapin scanning chair is SUPPOSED to work?

right now it gives you the turret UI without putting you in a remote turret so you're stairing at the pilots chair unable to do anything but hey, you got the turret UI....

[terse remnant]

i dont think the scanning/pathfinding thing has been added to any of the scanning ships yet, they are all just placeholders

[hollow sedge]

Holy moly ROC mining is straight impossible for me lol

My ROC's collision is completely broken

No matter where or how I spawn it in, it's clipping or floating

Gonna have to wait for a fix on that

[fast briar]

Can you still land at the microtech garage outside and sell?

I tried but the kiosk gave me an error

[turbid bay]

Yeah ROC mining is full of bugs. Avoid. Assuming it doesn't noclip into the floor it may also just randomly despawn (and you can't retrieve it from vehicle console until you character reset). My third and final ROC run had it just not turn up on the console so I couldn't sell its full load of hadinite. Stick to prospector mining, it's less consistent but quicker and of course actually works.

[earnest halo]

What do you mean exactly by less consistent? @turbid bay (I'm a noob jw)

[turbid bay]

@earnest halo Mining in the ROC is more consistent because the places where the best ore is located, are places where it is one of two possible ores. There is also the fact that FPS and ROC mining do not include "inert material" which takes up space in your cargo and is worth 0.02 UEC per unit. This means at the end of a ROC mining run, you should be able to have 100% Hadinite every time

Prospector mining on the other hand there are about 3/4 desirable ores. Inert material is a factor unless you nitpick which only adds time thus making it ineffective at times. Etc

Hope that explains

[earnest halo]

It does thank you very much!

[vestal plume]

Yea sadly ROC mining just should be avoided for now. I've been able to work around several of the bugs, but I can't get the damn thing to fire.

[serene quest]

actually nitpicking in the prospector saves time, and maximizes profit

it's in your best interest to ignore anythingthat's not agrecium or better

[lime moth]

I'm also having the issue of the ROC not firing (outside of armistic zones), while e.g. laster throtteling works. Is there a known workaoround for it?

[severe peak]

How is cargo running these days? Still have a 90% chance of losing everything to server hiccups?

[nova tinsel]

How is cargo running these days? Still have a 90% chance of losing everything to server hiccups?
@severe peak In my personal experience I get a lot less 30ks, but there are still a bit too many other issues that will fuck you.

For one I have experienced a lot more client crashes

[rare quail]

Today I did like 15 cargo runs without problems

[earnest halo]

I just had a 30k not delete my load, felt gud

[burnt sedge]

so.... watched a few tutorials, rented a prospector... and turns out that now that you can't modify rental ships at all, it's actually a bit pointless

is there any point to renting a prospector right now? any idea how I could reasonably make back the rental fee? :p

[earnest halo]

Just fps mine up to maybe 150k to 200k and then use the freelancer to run cargo until you can afford a bigger cargo, or, a prospector of your own @burnt sedge

I'm in the same boat as you, followed the same video probably, now I'm broke fps mining again lol

ROC would be a suggestion but, it's way bugged rn, always clips into the ground

[burnt sedge]

I've got almost 100k and an avenger titan

guess I should run combat to 200k

Hopefully won't take too long to get a prospector of my own! 😢

[robust rose]

is the earnings of the roc gonna get nerfed soon? im contemplating melting my prospecter for 1

[pallid temple]

Well they already nerfed the ROC

[robust rose]

rly? dam friend made a bomb off it yesterday so guess im melting my prospecter

[gritty zephyr]

whats the best location for prospector mining?

[frank grove]

whats the best location for prospector mining?
@gritty zephyr

https://sc-trade.tools/mining

Check that. Avoid the area around Crusader for now, there's a lot of people hanging out there for the 50 kills challenge and the prospector is not good in a fight.

[gritty zephyr]

thx

Acoording to that Aberdeen is the best location for prospector right

[burnt sedge]

ah great, full freelancer, go to dock at area 18, while landing, I just 'teleport' inside area 18, apparently no ship on pad....

not turning out to be the best of days

[gritty zephyr]

Mining laser option is greyed out, any workaround?

[pallid temple]

You don't need a workaround

Because you can't edit rented ships

[ornate rock]

did they remove the hangar version of this exploit as well?

[pallid temple]

Probably

When they fixed the exploit that allowed you to hotswap components in flight

[burnt sedge]

yeah you can't put a new mining laser on a rented prospector anymore, which makes rented versions useless

found this out the hard way earlier

[ornate rock]

did hand mining improve?

I wonder if you can handmine your way to a ROC and then mine your way to a prospector with that

[burnt sedge]

@ornate rock I don't think hand mining changed + apparently the ROC is very glitchy atm

[gritty zephyr]

is it possible to dump excess stuff on prospector or not yet?

[ornate rock]

you can jettison cargo, but that's an all or nothing choice

and I think only works if you have some volatile cargo (or at least the game thinks you do)

[burnt sedge]

Anyone have any idea where the refinery terminal in area 18 is?

[rare gate]

In the arccorp tower

There are 4 terminals, 2 of them are refinery terminals

[burnt sedge]

ty

[vernal rampart]

@burnt sedge why are you looking for the terminal there

You definitely should not be trying to refine there

[burnt sedge]

trying to sell the stuff in the cargo of a ship I can't get into for some reason

[fleet rivet]

ANyone has cutlass black? I have a ROC and if we could mine together we can share 50/50

[burnt sedge]

...which is not a great bug. Went to land in area 18, teleported inside out of my ship. Apparently the ship wasn't destroyed, can call it, but it seems to be missing various key parts and I can't board it... what.

[fleet rivet]

store it and redeploy

[burnt sedge]

Tried that twice now 😦 have even logged out and back in too

[sharp tapir]

Can't do Cutlass/ROC atm I think, everything disappears on deploying ROC from cutlass

[blissful rain]

Well they already nerfed the ROC
@pallid temple how so?

[sullen sand]

Any of you guys currently in yela Belt and experienced a explosion?

no idea what the ship was. some redish with a separate mining seat

[vernal rampart]

You realize we'd have to also be in your server right

[errant warren]

Trying to ROC mine, but my ROC never picks up the rocks, what should i do

[full surge]

try to server-hop

and see if you get the same result

[green sundial]

the ROC now takes several seconds to pick up gems

depending on server performance as well

[errant warren]

Lol i tried for 20 minutes and i just gave up

It stopped mining at one point also

[mossy meteor]

I'm trying to mine with the stock prospector right, And i keep coming across deposits that for some reason i can't mine. Even with 100% laser i cant seem to break the deposits. Is this a mechanic of sorts? Any help would be appreciated

[verbal cargo]

certain minerals can't be mined with a stock laser, you need to upgrade it

[hollow sedge]

how is trade treating everyone?

still havent tried it this patch

[ornate rock]

the only thing people are trading this patch are kills

don't think much has changed, the only big change was the removal of two hidden terminals making slam trading impossible

[hollow sedge]

so theres like no profit atm?

i own 2 Cats and they are just collecting dust lol

[mossy meteor]

^Haven't flown into any planets with Quantem yet so thats that

[sullen sand]

Okay so I'm now 4 hours into my rented prospector. 20k income and died twice from pvp. How do you actually make money with a stock prospector? The only thing minable are low quality Corrundrum and Aluminium astroids.

[lofty crest]

planet mining

[verbal cargo]

try daymar or yela in the crusader system @sullen sand

@sullen sand look for rocks with less then 4000 mass and 30-40 resistance

[ornate rock]

I'd not go mining around crusader right now

[sullen sand]

yep and they are corrundrum and aluminium. After 2 hours of scanning I settled with a 5% copper 70^ corrundrum and made 5k out of it

I check out planet mining now but I dont think that prospector rent should be recommended. If you own one with beefed up laser then its sure a nice ship for mining

[verbal cargo]

are the agricium rocks too big for stock or just not finding any?

cellin supposed to have nice laranite deposits

[sullen sand]

best I found was titanium/diamon but was to heavy

and bit annoying that approx 40% if the astroids you find are not scannable 🙂

[digital thorn]

Is it true that an exploded cargo ship full of cargo will drop boxes in 3.11?

[pallid temple]

No

The boxes despawn too quickly

[ornate rock]

and it only drops like 10% anyway

[pallid temple]

Less than 10

[ornate rock]

in tiny boxes, so you'd be trying to EVA that into your ship forever, no one would ever bother doing that... except they are very bored.

[last flame]

The one trade run I tried had been maxed out, so do your research and go off the beaten path for other materials.

[vernal rampart]

@digital thorn cant wait for physicalized damage

Also what mining is there around crusader thats good

[swift isle]

Regarding the roc not picking up gems, I usually just "swipes" the laser over the gems back and forth and then it picks it up in scoops. Takes a few seconds tho. But it's alright, got 100k in hadanite/dolomite in 15-20 min with it.

And since it can export out the cargo hold in a box and store it on the ship, it's no cargo limit, really.

[soft rain]

anyway to QT to a friend in the party thats jumped out the ship and floating in space?

[vernal rampart]

@soft rain let him die. Thats what he gets

[soft rain]

what do u mean let him die? then he has to spawn waaaaay back in loreville

[vernal rampart]

But heres an answer

Qt back the way you came

And cancel the qt to jump out near him. Watch the speed

With skill you can jump out of qt on him

@soft rain

I use it to jump out of qt in the secret asteroid field

[last flame]

What does a ROC fit in? Cutlass?

[pallid temple]

Yes

[frank grove]

Cutlass is good for it. And if, like me, you manage to get it turned sideways in the hold, you can open the side door and just go out that way!

[wet trench]

Any short cargo runs around Microtech creating profit?

[vernal rampart]

All of them

[frank grove]

@wet trench https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes

You can select all of the mT locations and only search for routes in that area if you want

[naive maple]

Caterpillar still useless?

[frank grove]

Define useless @naive maple

You can make good money with it, but you're gambling

[sterile trail]

help? read only?

[frank grove]

If it's rented, or it's not stored, you cannot modify the loadout

[heady root]

hey can anyone give me some tips on making money i have no clue what im doing and youtube videos arent helping much

[hollow sedge]

Where can I find the updated spreadsheet for mining ores?

[golden eagle]

Hey all, im just wondering about this website i found called sc trade tools

there is a mining section on the website and it tells me the best place to mine is aberdeen?

but i havent hear a single miner say aberdeen is good to mine on lol

so im really confused

similarily it says the best place for roc mining is also aberdeen 🤔

like is this information wrong or something?? or is aberdeen actually a good place to mine

[heady root]

Im thinking of buyiing a roc but i dont know where i would be able to use it any tips?

[earnest halo]

What site is that@golden eagle

[heady root]

https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes

[earnest halo]

So is the ROC really better than the upgraded Prospector?

In terms on money per time spent

[pallid temple]

Yes

[sullen sand]

Just FYI a Prospector full with Laranite and soem Quantium is not fast enough to stop when requested and when it stopped there will be no scan and the 20k fine bascially eats up your profit 🙂

[sullen sand]

Is there a way of getting un-scannable asteroids somehow active? They just don't turn yellow when I find them and mining scanner does not pop. Because I'm now 20 asteroids in and none of them are scannable

Nevermind its an acknowledged issue. Just another reason to avoid renting a Prospector

[hybrid valve]

I can get unscannable asteroids to scan by exiting the ship and then re-entering. It doesn't fix it for long though.

[fleet rivet]

looking for a partner who can scout with his cutlass black and I do the mining with ROC
We will share 50/50 if that's allright

[soft rain]

where is the caves located? Is there some missions that lead to them i heard?

[blazing oar]

cant even get my roc into the freelancer anymore...

[soft rain]

https://starcitizen.tools/IronBand
Bought this cool helmet, guess for cave mining. But cant outfit it. Is just a static object per now?

[pallid temple]

Its a clothing item, not an armour item

So you need to remove your flight suit... which you need on to survive in space

[soft rain]

ofc

thx

[hollow sedge]

@golden eagle in context that chart kinda shows the total value in minerals on each planet, but there are other factors to consider.

Aberdeen is really mountainous. Even in flat areas roc minables are sometimes on a hill which can be really annoying as the fractured minerals fall downhill and go everywhere. You also need the pembroke armor to survive.

That said, Ive only tried Aberdeen since 3.11 live and Im still able to bring in full Hadenite hauls in my Roc.

[crimson mantle]

@golden eagle Those charts are correct: Hurston moons are the best places to mine overall if you mine every mineral.

If you want to focus on the high-end stuff, or quantainium, you can filter the commodities on the left and see if the other places are best.

[frank grove]

General recommendation I've used in the past to add on to that: anything less valuable than Hephestanite (normally I don't go below Agricium myself) is really not worth mining if you have other options. The SC Trade Tools sheet has a list of ore sell prices, you can see for yourself how the various ores stack up. 8aUEC per unit vs 24? No contest

[pliant matrix]

did they changed value for mining? I made a run got agricium quant and laranite for like 45% and the rest with various minerals and only got 21k from it

with 60% agricium I was doing around 60k some month ago

[fickle zephyr]

@crimson mantle any plans on including gravity wells?

awesome tool by the way

what minerals combined in the prospector cargo makes the quantanium dissipate really fast?

[crimson mantle]

@fickle zephyr Do you mean the Lagrange points?

They're in there already :D
The concentration of mineral is just lower than on planets, but with filters you can see where's best to mine while staying in space.

https://sc-trade.tools/mining?q=%257B%2522depositType%2522:%2522MISC%2520Prospector%2520or%2520Argo%2520Mole%2522,%2522isCargoStolen%2522:false,%2522profitType%2522:%2522time%2522,%2522allowableDetour%2522:25,%2522maxStops%2522:5,%2522allowWaitTimes%2522:false,%2522showDetails%2522:false,%2522itemTypesType%2522:%2522blacklist%2522,%2522itemNamesType%2522:%2522blacklist%2522,%2522locationTypes%2522:%255B%2522Asteroid%2520field%2522,%2522Lagrangian%2520point%2522%255D,%2522locationTypesType%2522:%2522whitelist%2522,%2522locationNamesType%2522:%2522blacklist%2522,%2522avoidHiddenLocations%2522:true%257D

[fickle zephyr]

i have selected every type and every location with "only selection" and i still dont get them in the bottom of the list even

[crimson mantle]

If you click the link you can see what I did to make them show up in the locations filter.

I'll try to think of something to make it more usable, thanks for the feedback.

[fickle zephyr]

https://sc-trade.tools/mining?q=%257B%2522ship%2522:%2522Caterpillar%2522,%2522investment%2522:2000000,%2522depositType%2522:%2522MISC%2520Prospector%2520or%2520Argo%2520Mole%2522,%2522isCargoStolen%2522:false,%2522profitType%2522:%2522time%2522,%2522allowableDetour%2522:25,%2522maxStops%2522:5,%2522allowWaitTimes%2522:false,%2522maxWaitTime%2522:5,%2522showDetails%2522:true,%2522minQuantityPerMinute%2522:5000,%2522itemTypesType%2522:%2522blacklist%2522,%2522itemNames%2522:%255B%255D,%2522itemNamesType%2522:%2522blacklist%2522,%2522locationTypes%2522:%255B%2522Asteroid%2520field%2522,%2522City%2522,%2522Lagrangian%2520point%2522,%2522Moon%2520surface%2522,%2522Planet%2520surface%2522,%2522Space%2520station%2522%255D,%2522locationTypesType%2522:%2522whitelist%2522,%2522locationNames%2522:%255B%255D,%2522locationNamesType%2522:%2522blacklist%2522,%2522avoidHiddenLocations%2522:false%257D

should it have a second page?

[crimson mantle]

Ah I see :)
The website only shows the top 12 answers to stay optimized and keep the database load manageable.

[fickle zephyr]

ah ok

aaron halo is that the asteroid field that goes all around stanton?

[crimson mantle]

I guess burying that info at the bottom of https://sc-trade.tools/home#faq isn't quite good enough 😄

Correct. Levski is located directly in it.

[fickle zephyr]

how can it have so low values?

[crimson mantle]

Mostly because of ore density: on a planet, there's rocks every 3km, but in space it's more like every 10-20km

I'm not sure how their probability volumes work, but that's what the data shows :/

[fickle zephyr]

makes sense

[crimson mantle]

Mining in space is actually quite profitable still

[fickle zephyr]

yes

and griefer safe

i love that it has accurate trading info also

gallog is a mess

[crimson mantle]

Thanks, I do my best 🙂

[fickle zephyr]

great work and thank you

space mining with a party where one mining ship goes back and forth to the refinery with the quantinium while the other(s) find and fracture quantinium and picks upp 100% chunks of laranite when there is time

its effective when the party beacons work

have a mole go back and forth and a couple of prospectors go scanning and fracturing

[mortal cargo]

Is asteroid mining worth ?

[earnest halo]

What is the intended restock rate of a trading console?

[golden eagle]

@hollow sedge right I see. Would u recommend arial instead?

[hollow sedge]

Hello citizen! Are you tired of getting shafted by your mining org? Look no further than joining my ship, today. We're taking off in about 15 minutes in the Argo Mole. What it lacks in defenses it makes up for in sweet sweet mineral capacity. So hop on board and mine with us, where you'll make a fair 25% cut, every time!

Life cannot be guaranteed. Some citizens may experience vision loss, deafness and other life threatening diseases, like death on this vessel

[ornate rock]

#looking-for-session

[odd rose]

whats a good planet to mine hadenite rocks on daymar is too buggy at the moment i keep getting server kicked when on that planet

[crimson mantle]

@odd rose Looking at https://sc-trade.tools/mining, Aberdeen and Arial

@mortal cargo Yes, asteroid mining is quite profitable

@earnest halo You can see how much inventory refreshes per shop here: https://sc-trade.tools/shops

[odd rose]

thanks this is very helpful

[mortal cargo]

what should I mine and where ?

[earnest halo]

I'm on that site, it tells you the max amount the console can have, and how long that total takes to restock, but it doesn't give the amount per increment, and how long those increments are

For example if you empty a shop, and wait a while, it doesn't go instantly back to fully stocked, there's a timer or something that it refills a portion of the full stock

I'm trying to plan out trips that might involve a little waiting time next to a console and buying as it refills (to compete with the other local traders)

So like, example would be: 5-10% of max stock every 10 -15 minutes? Just wondering that type of value if anyone knows how to find it

[sullen sand]

sc tools shows this information. Left side click Miscellaneous and then Show stock details. You get something like Max 80,000 units + 1,300/min

[earnest halo]

That's the max stock over max time

I know that part, that's not what I'm looking for, ty though

The console doesn't just wait 1300 minutes and then suddenly have 80,000 units, there's increments that it slowly builds up

[sullen sand]

Its 1300 per minute up to 80,000

so 10 minutes its 13,000

At least that's how I read it. so I know full stock is after approx. 1 hour

I guess you can go over to sc-tools and their github and request a feature to show it in percentage.

[earnest halo]

its not exact though like i waited 15 minutes at one console and it produced ~350, then waited another 15 minutes, nothing, another 10 went by and it produced 1220

is that server tick issues ? or something intended?

another 12 minutes passed and it just produced 1280

so maybe its just partially random? or maybe thats just buggy behavior idk

[frank grove]

Keep in mind, stock is shared across servers. You're not the only one trading at that console

[earnest halo]

is that for sure? ive server hopped to avoid empty stock consoles before..

[hollow sedge]

@golden eagle I did try Arial but only for a little bit. I like to keep searching until I find 4+ hadenite which I couldn’t find on arial. Im not sure if thats efficient or not. I do find groups 7-9 hadenites rocks on Aberdeen but only after searching for a good while. So Id pick the planet based on your style/patience. Im not sure which is more $$/hour.

[golden eagle]

ah i see

i was mainly asking for prospector mining lol

but thanks for the response 😄

[earnest halo]

So i just crashed, while at a trading console on the moon Cellin, when i logged back on, Im back at Port Olisar, the trading console at port olisar doesnt have the ability to sell my cargo I had on my freelancer :/

I went back to the same trading console, my ship isnt here, but, the console here recognizes my freelancer and says my stuff is still in my ship

is there.. any way to save it?

If i go claim it back to port olisar (where i took off from initially) will it be inside?

[frank grove]

If you do a claim, you lose cargo

[earnest halo]

so theres no way to save it?

lost in the void?

[frank grove]

Pretty much sadly.

If you can sell it from the terminal that says it's recognized, do that. Trade risk is very high right now

[earnest halo]

i bought the stuff from that console :/

unfortunately

so i cant sell it back

so the ROC just wont work for me.. it always clips into the ground or gets stuck in a wheely

and cargo missions risk me losing all my money which ive done 3 times now xD

so how do you make money right now in the game ?

[frank grove]

Can always run combat missions, that's my go to

Also, rule of thumb: never invest more than 50% of your money at a time into cargo. That way if you lose, you don't lose everything

[earnest halo]

Lol yeah I did that twice, once cause of a server crash and once because I was busy eating breakfast and crashed into area 18 when trying to land at the space port

[tender kayak]

Cargo guys just as a poll because I've not run cargo in a long time, lost it one too many times, how often are you losing cargo to bugs alone these days?

[earnest halo]

so is console stock shared across all servers? or just regions? like would EU have the same quantity as USA?

[pallid temple]

It's all servers across all regions

[earnest halo]

then isnt the stock kinda getting low for the playerbase? at least at peak hours a lot of em are just all waiting games

2 or 3 players at one spot

waiting to hit the console first

Do they want us to float above outposts on moons and blow up any player that comes near it like its Rust ? lol

[gleaming orbit]

does anyone find a region that has less 30k crashes or it dont matter? seems like whenever i roc mine (server knows im tryna make $$$) i get 30 to 40% full and i get a 30k crash. alot this week

[chilly flower]

I found setting region to “Best” rather than to whatever you want to play on gives more stability overall, only had one 30k last night compared to the four or five the night before

[forest finch]

Guys, any idea why my multitool won't mine? I'm a noob. I have the rucksack but it told me I have no inventory armor. Left click doesnt do anything

[zealous iron]

i had to drop mine then pick it up for it to work

but it didnt work cause the rock was too big i think

lol

oh wait no i didnt know i had to mouse wheel to adjust the laser at the time and gave up after nothign happened

but it was still a big rock

[forest finch]

Works now, had to log out, back in, unequip, requip

[earnest halo]

Why wont the back tires of my ROC stay on the ground

?

this doesnt happen to you guys every single time you try to go mining?

thats not moving btw

thats completely stationary nothing being clicked or held

And it does this to me, every single time I spawn one, but people keep saying it's working just fine for them and they're making 100 to 200k/hr using it

Something I'm doing wrong?

[pure grove]

Ive heard people call it,then imediatly store it and recall it to get around this bug

But the arm likes to bug out

[earnest halo]

i just tried that and now its driving, INTO the ground , by itself on the pad

im just gonna try a different location to spawn it from, ive tried HDMS anderson every time

maybe thats my issue

[pure grove]

yeah i tried to do it on Daymar and had that issue too

the ground just schlooped it out of existence.

[hollow sedge]

I got one working on daymar earlier today

Pure luck

Have not experienced any changes in the bug's frequency when going to other sites, sadly @earnest halo

It might honestly be a case of respawning/'rerolling' till you get a functional one

[earnest halo]

lol i finally got a good roll

then i accidentally hit it with my freelancer and it flew off into the stars

[earnest halo]

okayyy , finallyy, a sucessful run, ran out of water though and died but thats okay, got the hadanite home lol

[earnest halo]

now my ROC is un retreivable, fails every time at the console

solutions? lol

[soft rain]

would be sweet to be able to sell all the items u buy in game. for example a Helix laser

[turbid bay]

Only solution is a character reset or go back to the exact PB pad you stored it on

This is part of the reason why I say to stay away from ROC mining for now

Until they patch it

I even bought a 2nd ROC and the same thing happened

Just stick to prospector

[soft rain]

Anyone know how to move the HUD/Screens? or is it not possible. Cant see all the numbers in the front laser in the Argo :/ I can see them better in extraction mode. But still.. not very good interface at the moment. Good HUD on the side turrets

[turbid bay]

Use the scanner on tab, hold M1 while looking at the deposit

Dont use the mining laser scanner

[north temple]

@earnest halo I just got a ROC, got any tips? Never tried mining till now

[crimson mantle]

@north temple

• Try https://sc-trade.tools/mining to find mining spots
• After loading the ROC into a vehicle, turn off the weapons to prevent the mining arm to glitch
• If the ROC glitches in your ship, quickly turn the mining arm on/off with "M"

[north temple]

Ahhh, awesome, I'll give that a try, thank you!

[worldly vector]

@earnest halo go to microtech and retrieve the roc from the ground vehicle garage

[last flame]

What mining glitch is prevented by turning off the weapons?

[worldly vector]

It prevents the arm of the l roc from glitching when inside a ship. Do not power the roc off when you exit it

[last flame]

Ah okay.

[worldly vector]

With regards to the ROC's mining arm issue, if it snaps into its glitched position, just enable and disable mining mode to fix the arm, then press P to power down the weapons, which disables the mining arm. When stowing, make sure to leave the ROC powered on with weapons disabled, and hop out. This will prevent the arm from snapping into the glitched position when you hop back into it. Just simply re-enable weapons (P again) after unpacking the ROC from your ship.

[fickle zephyr]

you know the arm is glitched when your ROC starts dancing

[rare gate]

It's a feature!

[fickle zephyr]

its so many issues around the whole ROC mining process that i have given up on ROC

if the ROC works it will be cutlass door that stop working

[odd rose]

i just mined some quantaniam and my prospector blew up cuz i took to long to get to port to sell WTF

[upper tapir]

I just mined agricium and my prospector blew up on the pad anyway

[vital oyster]

where can i find hand mineables? do they still spawn only in the caves?

[torpid mesa]

they are everywhere now

surface of moons is the best place to look

[vital oyster]

thanks buddy

[hollow sedge]

My power just went out so I guess I’m done for the night @fading copper

[frank grove]

i just mined some quantaniam and my prospector blew up cuz i took to long to get to port to sell WTF
@odd rose

Yeah, that's how Q works. When you see that little blinking light in the corner change from yellow, you'd best be at or near a refinery terminal already

[odd rose]

whats going on with daymar i keep getting server disconnected while mining there its happened everyday for me now doesnt happen anywhere else

[frank grove]

Go mine Aberdeen for a week, that'll change. Server disconnects happen regularly, the servers are unstable

[odd rose]

ya i get that but i have mined daymar for weeks at times with no disconnects and now its a daily thing since this update i already submitted a ticket for it so we ll see what happens

[raw palm]

Aynone know much about fps mining in 3.11? I saw a post on reddit that said there should be lots of hind minables everywhere now. Has this been confirmed? Can I use my SEN to scan and then hand mine on the surface of moons like Aberdeen? I did a quick test... found some rocks that were too large, and then I found some small rocks that had gem icons on them. I wasn't able to mine them with the hand tool though. The rocks had some kind of crystals attached to them, so maybe weren't normal rocks even though they scanned as Hadanite.

[worldly vector]

I saw plenty of hand mineable rocks on Arial last night all over the planet

@raw palm

[distant sapphire]

The hand mineables will have a mass around 0.1 whereas the ROC mineables will have a mass around 0.75. I've found hand mineables just about everywhere so far this patch.

[raw palm]

ty @worldly vector and @distant sapphire ! Good to know!

and they show up on scanners I assume?

(like the SEN scanner)?

[distant sapphire]

if you scan with ship scanner, it will show you composition and mass so you'll know before even getting out of the pilot seat

[worldly vector]

@raw palm
Yes they show up on ship scanner but make sure you are going slow or stop. They are small and can easily be missed.

[last flame]

Quantanium is bonkers, holy cow. Set myself up very carefully, sucked up as much as I could as fast as I could, and off-loaded. 33% of my cargo hold resulted in 51k UEC

[blissful sparrow]

Rocks go boom

boom rock such cash money

Good rock.

[sturdy pelican]

I just got the Prospector today and I'm getting absolute ass profits compared to the Greycat ROC

Where should I be mining?

[oblique field]

@earnest halo Goto a diffrent station and claim it

Can someone ping that solution untill we get a fix

If your ship is stated as un-retreivable goto a different station and make a claim

[crimson mantle]

@hollow sedge feel free to play around with https://sc-trade.tools/mining
N.B. you'll need to upgrade the mining laser to crack the hardest rocks

[pliant matrix]

How often are 30k now? I might get back into trading a bit if it's not too bad

[raw palm]

Notice something weird with the scanner on the SEN, if I hover over a rock it says shows the scanning circle but it never shows the results of the scan 😦 Someone on the server said it works in their prospector and freelancer. But doesn’t seem to work for me in the SEN.

[hollow sedge]

Other than the helix head, what are the best attachments?

Oh sorry - for a prospector. I know the cooler, engine, qd is not necessary but i want to pamper my moneymaking ship

[frank grove]

Helix really is the most important thing. Beyond that, update your QD if you can, shorter travel times will be appreciated

[robust rose]

Anyone know if the connie comfortably fits the roc?

[torpid mesa]

it fits good but i know in 3.10 it was bugging out and bouncing when you lifft the elevator not sure if its fixed yet

cutty is your best bet honestly

[distant sapphire]

@raw palm with the scanner open, hold down left mouse button when you see the scanning circle to give you the node composition. works for every ship right now

[robust rose]

I find it fits horribly in a black

[digital thorn]

wut

[robust rose]

Spazzes out everytime

[vestal plume]

It's the mining laser bug. Normally the cutty is great. ROCs are cursed for many right now. I cannot fire the lasers on any that I spawn.

You can get around the issue of parking in a cutty by engaging and disengaging the mining laser, just fyi

Have it disengaged while on the ramp, basically.

[raw palm]

ty @distant sapphire - I got the scanner to work, I didn't remember having to click left button when I did it before, but its been a few patches... so I'm rusty. However, I've spent a couple hours on Aberdeen and can't find any rocks I can hand mine. Consistently, the smallest rock I've found is .75 - never below .75, but I've found several .75. In fact, the small ones (the ones that have the gem icon) seems to always be between .75 and .85.

Here's an example video.

Am I missing something?

[flint current]

Dont go back to trading, in 2 days 5 times 30ks

this patch is unstable

[turbid bay]

First few days it was really stable, but I think they are testing some backend stuff which is causing 30ks

[soft plinth]

The greycat ROC is so buggy, just constantly flipping when I use it. Any ideas on a solution?

[turbid bay]

Don't use it until they patch

Stick to prospector or fps mining

[green sundial]

I've had good luck in the ROC if I open the door first without getting in, and waiting for the animation to finish before then getting in the seat

stopped me from falling into the ground

[hollow sedge]

@hollow sedge feel free to play around with https://sc-trade.tools/mining
N.B. you'll need to upgrade the mining laser to crack the hardest rocks
@crimson mantle Just to correct, because wrong Phantom pinged, it was for @sturdy pelican

[crimson mantle]

Oh my bad, sorry!

[tardy iron]

hey is the roc purchasable in game yet?

[last flame]

ROC? Yes.

It's 172k

[tardy iron]

where?

[last flame]

I believe you can find one at New Deal on Hurston.

[tardy iron]

thanks. I was looking on the wiki but the roc page and reddit dont seem to have any updates since august

[last flame]

Yup, no problem. I've purchased one in-game and have spent an... unfortunate amount of time in Lorville.

[tardy iron]

lol i feel that

one of these days i’ll have a reason to leave the hurston area

[last flame]

Hey at least your username is fitting!

Trashpanda in the Trash City

[tardy iron]

lol yea, hopefully time to leave soon. Execution warrents pay well but id like a less explosive line of work for a bit.

[ornate rock]

people still use prospectors to blow up ROC mineables?

or how am I supposed to see this?

[worldly vector]

Burst

[robust rose]

anyone having trouble spawning there roc?

[mental ivy]

im trying to mine with my prospector but micro tech is annoying as hell cause my ship just wants to fall out the sky every thrre seconds. where should i be looking for quant?

i havent mined since a few releases back

also i found quant but my laser wouldnt get above 5% even when basically humping the rock, can i not break with defualt laser?

[frank grove]

Two things.

One: https://sc-trade.tools/mining to help you find places.

Two: yes, some rocks are too large or too resistant to be broken by the default laser. Even with a Helix you have to practically shove the mining head inside the rock in order to actually break some of the largest ones.

In general, Yela tends to be a popular place, but not this month as it is dangerous there with the kill challenge going on

[mental ivy]

ok thanks, is it even worth trying to use the prospector on planets? cause it drives like shit and i hate it in atmo

or should i just stick to moons

yeah i spent 30 min on yela and didnt ping a single mineable

[frank grove]

Never tried planets myself, I'd stick to moons or asteroids.

One thing you can do if need be is just land the ship and mine, rather than trying to fly and mine at the same time. Can help deal with weather issues and such.

[mental ivy]

yeah true. ok one last thing

is there an ore refine terminal at new babbage star port?

or do i ahve to go in to town?

[last flame]

Gotta go into town.

only super-convenient refinery is going to be either Port Olisar, or Levski.

Both will be faster than trying to hoof it into the city proper, but Olisar is dangerous right now and Levski a bit out of the way

[pliant matrix]

yaaaay first 30k. Lost 180k xD

[mental ivy]

i wish they added terminals in hangers ;c

i mean, they really should have them there ;/

doesnt make sense that the refinery is in town

[pliant matrix]

like for trade terminal. why going the opposite of the city to sell your cargo?

[mental ivy]

how long can i have quant in my hull before it blows?

yeah cargo should be a section of the spaceport too

[pliant matrix]

not long. better start going back

sometimes bug™️ make it explode in the next minute

[mental ivy]

like when ships come in to port they dont move the cargo to a storage in the middle of the city

not long like 5min.. 10 min

noice

when not bugged how long on averg

[pliant matrix]

5-15 I think

depend the density and I heard what it's store with too

[mental ivy]

kk ty i just read a guide about teh flashing colors and timers

anyway to fix when laser wont turn on with fracture mode? fresh ship too

[valid sequoia]

Can someone tell me if this gameplay loop is doable?

• 3 party member group
• 2 people each with a ROC/transport 1 person with a ship that has SCU capability or a Cargo Grid
• when ROC is full, call 3rd person over to empty/transport from ROC to personal inventory-> drop onto grid of their ship.
  -make rounds between both miners -> nearest port to sell.

I tried to do this with a random the other day, but said he wasn't' able to sell it.. So I tried it again on my own, and put it on a ship. When I landed and went to sell it said 0SCU, however was still able to select the ship, then sell. Has anyone tried this?

[green sundial]

3rd person should also be your scout to help find the ROC mineables

he can sell it as long as he's the one who gets the box from the ROC

otherwise it'll show as illegal

[valid sequoia]

So I need someone to try and take cargo from my ROC and see if it will allow them to do so

[green sundial]

it will allow them do do so as its 'their cargo' being sold from their ship

and then they can use the money app to transfer spoils

and the ROC will open the back part up whether or not the person is in party

[valid sequoia]

So party members can take cargo from ROCs? Reason I'm asking is I had tried this with a random and it didn't allow them to.. but he was fairly new.

[green sundial]

even non party members can take from the ROC

back to your question, I'd use the 3rd guy to also scout

as soon as a deposit is found, go scout again

and I'd recommend using a 100 Series ship because of its AIR system

[valid sequoia]

hmm.. i'll have to try to get someone to help again who knows bit more

[green sundial]

if a person can handmine they can ROC mine

[valid sequoia]

didn't help the last time I tried, I got 3 rocks opened, but couldn't use ROC to extract. :/ At least I know it's possible now..

[green sundial]

the ROC has issues this patch

collection laser has to be held over the gems for a long time it seems

whether thats server related or not is unknown

[tall linden]

Is there a list og what different ores are worth somewhere?

[frank grove]

http://sc-trade.tools/mining

@tall linden

Has lists

[fickle zephyr]

some moons have worse atmo than hurston

the place we have had the biggest profit opportunity with our test is mining quant around MT, but the problem is the time it takes from you have jumped to NB and untill you have gotten inside the vehicle terminal

if you are good at making that time short you will have good profit there with quant

[slow trench]

is slam currently unsellable?

[fickle zephyr]

drug dealers say so

tressler needs a refinery

[last flame]

Refinery decks are on the docket for 3.12

so that will probably make it a lot easier at a number of space stations

[dreamy urchin]

I just got an ARGO mole

Im planning on doing multi crew mining

what lasers should I get?

[mossy canyon]

Helix II

[fickle zephyr]

why is quantanium disaapearing from my prospector

even when im not mining anything else than quantanium

and even before the yellow light starts it can have dissapeared a large portion

[last flame]

I believe the MOLE comes with Helix IIs already

[valid sequoia]

I don't believe Mole comes with the helix's

[last flame]

Starcitizen.tools suggests it does. I haven’t had a chance to look in-game.

[proven token]

It definately does not

[idle blade]

100% mole does not come with Helix

[hollow sedge]

Does not come with helix

But you don't need it unless solo mining

[dense fractal]

where do you sell slam?

[hollow sedge]

Anyone open to showing me some cargo routes later today?

[sullen sand]

@hollow sedge Did you try gallog and sctools?

[frank grove]

where do you sell slam?
@dense fractal

You don't right now. The only slam buyers disappeared in 3.11.0 patch

[flint current]

any best way to make money rn

[spare flower]

anyone got a build for a good Caterpillar?

[hollow sedge]

I've never even really hauled cargo yet @sullen sand

[last flame]

This is what hell looks like with this collection laser

[crimson mantle]

@hollow sedge You can explore your trade options here: https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes

[raw palm]

Is there a trick to getting the ROC out of the cutlass? It keeps wanting to float up. I can never get it out very easily.

[trail willow]

When entering the roc, as soon as it moves take out the mining arm and put it back. That fixes it for me, and i'm able to just drive out.

[last flame]

Best option is to turn the mining arm off before ever getting into the Cutlasss

do that by pressing P

don't turn the mining arm back on until you're out of the Cutlass

[hollow sedge]

Trade tools usually doesn't help with trade routes. Unless im doing something wrong

im having such a hard time try to trade in this patch

[flint current]

yh its hard since they implemented the new trading

also the 30k's dont help

[raw palm]

Oh I didn’t even know you could turn the arm off. Ty. Will try it.

I was just hitting M to toggle mining mode and that would jostle it around some.

[fickle zephyr]

anyone got a build for a good Caterpillar?
@spare flower stock is actually good

you can gain about 10% hp by upgrading shield

and you could upgrade speed on QT with the cost of range

a little

or put FR-86 if you plan on combat

expensive upgrades with little gain

and choose weapons if you plan on combat

or change QT to industrial like carrack have in stock and get huge range and loooooong spooling/calibration

i mean 1 tank with pontes(stock) will give you 5-10 fast long range jumps

[serene quest]

Yea idk. I don’t see stock trading routes as being too lucrative atm

I’ve tried and tried, and between unavailable stock or sellers just not buying. I spend more time actually trying to find and trying to sell than I do actually running my route

[fickle zephyr]

it takes many tries to learn what you will be able to buy enough of and sell enough of

i have lost too much cargo to bugs and client crash this patch i aint gonna try any more

[crimson mantle]

@hollow sedge What issue are you experiencing?

[hollow sedge]

Im new and im probably doing something wrong but everytrade route on there has no supplies left so i wait but nothing pops up on the trade console

[sterile trail]

How is delamar for mining?

[fickle zephyr]

i have been collecting for like 10min now without a single reaction

[crimson mantle]

@hollow sedge Try shops with at least a refresh rate of at least half your cargo capacity: https://i.imgur.com/3XNgXCy.png

@sterile trail You can check the best mining places here: https://sc-trade.tools/mining
Feel free to use the filters to limit your search ("Stanton > Crusader" for example)

[hollow sedge]

thanks

[naive maple]

Large scale trade back yet?... not talking about Freelancers... rather the 10x freelancer ship capacity vessels genuinely created for trade like the Caterpillar and Carrack... I am not quite sure how to term the verbiage such that the trolls don’t respond, but I still get a useful answer?!

Is the Caterpillar worthwhile again?... or can you not even fill a free Lancer still?

Not asking about scrap

[tame elbow]

👀

[naive maple]

Profitable cargo?

[lone kelp]

?

[naive maple]

Is Laranite, Agricium, Titanium, Diamonds... is there anywhere in-game that can fill a Caterpillar with expensive cargo?... FILL?

[lone kelp]

Titanium can fill.

Diamonds as well.

Laranite, no.

[naive maple]

Where?

[lone kelp]

Agricium, I don’t actually know, been ages since I tried that.

[naive maple]

I LOVE my Cat... but resent its current uselessness!

[lone kelp]

Bezdek/Lathan has laranite and titanium.

So you can by partial laranite and then titanium.

Or you could be a coward like me and just buy all titanium

[naive maple]

Yeah that’s a thing.... but does.... this still work?

https://youtu.be/Lo-qD7U6sD0

So... anyone tried this yet?

Currently?

[lone kelp]

Idk if I still works in 3.11, haven’t tried it.

[naive maple]

Can I gather the Laranite from Bezdek + Latham + T&M and sell it all at Lorville and get 330,000 and still survive a 30k?... or has CIG “fixed” that?

[lone kelp]

I don’t recall it being mentioned in bug fixes for 3.11, but obviously not everything that gets changed is included in patch notes.

[naive maple]

Ok.. I’ll try it as I can afford wasting $1,400,000 aUEC for the sake of distributable Knowledge!

[lone kelp]

That’s the spirit!

For the cause.

[last flame]

ROC mining right now must be the most frustrating experience I've ever had

because the ROC won't sit still, so you have to keep adjusting just to keep your target in check, which is insufferable when you have to keep your collector laser pin pointed just to suck anything up

[upper tapir]

Mine depops when i open the ship’s cargo door. Also half the time i can’t mine with it. The rock just stays at 0% whatever i do.

That’s not counting the times where it just pops and goes down through the ground into oblivion or when i leave the ship and it turns upside down half buried.

I love my prospector...

[last flame]

Willing to bet the Prospector is faster than the ROC right now just because it's a smoother, more reliable experience

[upper tapir]

No comparison

[rare quail]

Where to sell slam?

[crimson mantle]

@rare quail You cannot sell SLAM anywhere right now.

[forest finch]

Guys I'm new to the game. Finally earned a Caterpillar and so far this has been my experience:
First trip: ~500k aUEC of goods --> 30K crash lost it all,
Second trip: 70k profit
Third trip 647k aUEC of goods --> Ship Randomly blows up coming out of QT (See attached)

Now I'm going broke... Guys Is hauling not reliably possible in the current state of the game or am I having bad luck? I've lost 1.1Mil aUEC and made 70K...

I found a bug report about this from a year ago, dunno how common it is

[crimson mantle]

@forest finch There are "tricks" to mitigate the impact of 30Ks, but the servers being unstable and the game being buggy, it's a risky business to run cargo.

[forest finch]

What about my caterpillar randomly blowing up?

I found this, but is it common? https://robertsspaceindustries.com/community/issue-council/star-citizen-alpha-3/STARC-91885-Caterpillar_randomly_explodes_after_exiting_Quantum_Travel___ArcCorp_resulting_in_lost_cargo

[crimson mantle]

Sounds like a bug 😦

[forest finch]

Basically since I lost 2/3 of my trips to bugs I want to have an idea of if it's worth it to try to recoup my lost 1M or switch to mining or something

[crimson mantle]

sometimes your ship takes damage and the server will only register it quite a while later. Could be that, or something else. You can add your reproduction to the ticket.

Mining might be safer: you'll still crash, but at least you won't lose capital.

[forest finch]

I repaired and refueled, then QT'd and blew up before even getting control of the ship, I found a few threads on this happening to caterpillars https://reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/c0un4g/caterpillar_instantly_explodes_when_coming_out_of/

I'll add to the ticket, I guess hauling isn't great right now? I feel like maybe it's too risky with all the bugs

[crimson mantle]

A lot of people are making the same assessment

[forest finch]

Thanks for your input, is it possible to sell back my cat?

I'm too broke to buy a prospector now

[crimson mantle]

You bought it in-game and want to sell it ingame?

[forest finch]

in game ya

[crimson mantle]

Not at the moment no

[forest finch]

ok thanks

[crimson mantle]

But you can try your hand at ROC mining, it's as profitable than prospector mining with 1/10 the investment.

Not bug-free though

[forest finch]

ohhh this looks interesting!

[crimson mantle]

All you need is 172k for the vehicle and 25k+5.2k for the pembroke armor

[forest finch]

can that thing fit in the freelancer?

[crimson mantle]

It's an easier fit in the cutlass. I've heard it can fit in the regular freelancer, but it's tricky.

Didn't try myself

[forest finch]

Ok thanks for the suggestion I'll try this, looks fun

Less stress inducing than flying around my 500k cargo caterpillar that self distructs lmao

[crimson mantle]

the ROC: https://finder.deepspacecrew.com/ShipShops1/62e33393-5d68-4191-aba5-3b81ce4f3bf9
Envirosuit: https://finder.deepspacecrew.com/FPSArmors1/13a8f1c2-9679-4e0f-8281-f88c20925a1a
https://finder.deepspacecrew.com/FPSArmors1/b4545643-195c-4b70-977c-55d680ec34c2
Best mining places: https://sc-trade.tools/mining

[forest finch]

Amazing thank you!

[sage geyser]

is there good place in microtech sector for hadanite?

[odd rose]

just another hard day at work make the UEC

these are all hadenite rocks by the way

[last flame]

Okay, I've got some tips for people who are trying to ROC mine for a less frustrating experience

1. When you're boarding your ship, press P to turn power off to your ROC's weapons. This will prevent nasty collision issues.
2. When you're parked at a site, turn off your ROC's Engines (console on the left) so that your ROC doesn't try to wander and shake
3. Avoid any planet with too much variable terrain. Lots of rocks or canyons is going to make it difficult to navigate and risk turtling yourself
   and 4) for the love of ROC, avoid any amount of overcharge. With how long you have to hover over a gem to pick it up with the collector, if you have even 5% overcharge, you're going to spend 30 minutes trying to collect materials

[fickle zephyr]

is tram&myers diamonds fixed price this patch too?

i might try to trade again when i get more RAM

gold was also fixed price on several source locations last patch

and fixed at trade department

diamonds was not fixed price at trade departments

@last flame if you have gems spread out it might be a better option to get out of your seat and start stowing

or just leave it

[last flame]

I fully believe that.

Best to leave it if you're on the dark side of the planet, though

spotting hadanite in the dark is hell

[fickle zephyr]

i usually leave it

when the mineables is in a slope also i might have patience to pick up 75% of the gems

when it looks like that

[last flame]

Yeah, I posted an image last night of a similar hell

It'll be good when this is finally fixed

[odd rose]

whenever you break them hadenite rocks hurry up and get em in your back pack cuz when the game crashes at least you wont lose em

[woeful moss]

Love the ROC, nice tumbling feature that just throws you over and glitches you through the planet 😄

[crimson mantle]

@fickle zephyr Nothing has a fixed price. Some places simply have a very large refresh rate, making them "always full". Since price varies with supplies, they are more stable. You can see the refresh rates here: https://sc-trade.tools/shops

[fickle zephyr]

i have never bought diamonds for anything but 5.85 on tram&myers

or sold gold for anything but 6.41

titanium can tank pretty hard pretty fast on prime times

[green sundial]

wonder how they'll adjust everything for 3.12 on trade

[hollow sedge]

I'm just learning how to mine with the multi-tool. on foot. any suggestions appreciated. I have the big yellow backpack.

[proven token]

if you take those investigation missions to find missing people they usually lead to caves on daymar if you are near crusader

caves = minables

[bright gate]

I never see those missions anymore.

Are they just being taken so fast?

[proven token]

idk

[woeful moss]

Did they fix asteroid mining yet?

[lilac wigeon]

Looking for Mole crew

[valid sequoia]

Anyone doing some mining runs?

I have Roc's, moles, whatever or will just be operator.

[soft coyote]

I am thinking of renting a Starfarer to do hydrogen refining. Is the refine working? Can you refuel other ships with it? Can you sell this harvested hydrogen?

[valid sequoia]

@soft coyote No use of Starfarer currently

[dusty coyote]

What's the best planet to mine on?

[last flame]

Any of the moons should work, but the Hurston ones are more commonly recommended

[earnest halo]

on a server with only 6 people online right now, the collection arm is going too fast for the global inventory to handle and its literally vacuuming them up too fast

i had to inch in and grab them slowly or lose dozens because it litearlly sucks up 50 in 1 second

[pallid temple]

So it is done server side

[earnest halo]

It's.. amazing

I would record but I'm not risking any sort of cause to me DC'ing

And every single tick of my middle mouse wheelchanges the laser throttle % down to the .0X%

[pallid temple]

Now that's a greygasm

I had a server once where the laser throttle was actually smooth

[earnest halo]

damn 30 ppl just joined

and now its not workin right

sad day :/ was fun while it lasted

got 300 hadanite in no time at all

[pallid temple]

Ah well

[quartz laurel]

Erm...... ROC spawn bugged?
https://streamable.com/9myg36

[marsh heron]

xD

wtf

[bright gate]

Have been having a weird issue with ROCs last few days- after breaking a few the ROC laser just stops working on anything. Am in a small group (one other person). The odd thing: when I fire the mining laser, the other guy sees the extraction beam. When I switch, he sees the laser and I see the extraction beam.

[past obsidian]

for those miners out there; confirmed, 3 roc can fit into a cutty black... 2 in the back, one in the cockpit.

[modern hedge]

what should i cargo run with my freelancer?

ah nv,, im gonna try lyria and wala laranite

[earnest halo]

So, is sc-trade.tools/mining accurate when it says that aberdeen has about 5 times more hadanite than most of the other planetary satellites?

Is Aberdeen huge? Or is it just loaded?

[ornate rock]

so uhm, it's not quite that easy

[austere night]

how do i find spots to mine?

[earnest halo]

With what ? Fps mining? ROC? @austere night

[austere night]

FPS mining

[lilac wigeon]

Guys, do asteroid minning work now?

Im with mole and scanning of asteroid does not start never...

[crimson mantle]

@earnest halo It's accurate: Aberdeen has much more Hadanite than anywhere else.

@hollow sedge
@modern hedge
The problem with trade is that prices vary depending on stock, and stock is global across all servers: when a lot of people are trading, they deplete the inventory and raise the prices in all but the best "producers".
As there is currently no way to get the data from the LIVE servers (https://github.com/EtienneLamoureux/sc-trade-tools/issues/73), the website gets it from the static game's files (https://sc-trade.tools/home#faq).
If you trade only in places with large production, you'll see accurate prices on SC Trade Tools. Example: https://bit.ly/3k51hDP
It's a bit of a shame, but it's the best I can do for now :/

[modern hedge]

this was, a lot more than i expected

you literally explained eveything i was wondering about atm

[crimson mantle]

My pleasure :)
The current system Star Citizen has is pretty obscure: there's a lot that's not obvious with it.

[modern hedge]

what do you recomended i start to trade with, im in a cutty. (i dont have a lot of cash, so im not gonna haul atm, but waht should i start with)

[crimson mantle]

Are you around crusader, hurston?

[modern hedge]

Im not in the game as of now

well, i am, but in jail (:

[crimson mantle]

If you have a cutty you can also try to work your way up to 172k to get a ROC mining buggy in-game

[modern hedge]

i would love to get the ROC, but i dont have anywhere to start atm, cuz im i have a team, (we are 2) so we are splitting up the cash

so i was just wondering at what time should i start to haul, 10k? 50k maybe?

[crimson mantle]

Well, with 50k you can make 9.2k profit (in the best time) in a cutlass

In about 10 mins

You can plug numbers in https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes?q=%257B%2522ship%2522:%2522Cutlass%2520Black%2522,%2522investment%2522:50000,%2522isCargoStolen%2522:false,%2522profitType%2522:%2522time%2522,%2522allowableDetour%2522:25,%2522maxStops%2522:5,%2522allowWaitTimes%2522:false,%2522showDetails%2522:true,%2522minQuantityPerMinute%2522:2300,%2522itemTypesType%2522:%2522blacklist%2522,%2522itemNamesType%2522:%2522blacklist%2522,%2522locationTypesType%2522:%2522blacklist%2522,%2522locationNamesType%2522:%2522blacklist%2522,%2522avoidHiddenLocations%2522:true%257D and see what makes sense for you

[modern hedge]

those 10 min will prob be like 20 minutes in how i operate (: but that isnt a long time for 9k

[crimson mantle]

If you want to avoid Port Olisar, or Crusader moons entirely, you can also filter them out

[modern hedge]

no, i dont mind those

[crimson mantle]

Even titanium, wich is usually pretty stable priced, makes 8.2k profit

[last flame]

@lilac wigeon yes, Asteroid mining works. But you have to be in specific belts for there to be asteroids to mine. For instance, Delamer doesn't seem to have any minable deposits around it

meanwhile, a number of the Lagrange point space stations do

[dawn ermine]

is there an updated spreadsheet on what minerals are on which planets and moons?

[crimson mantle]

@dawn ermine There's something even better: https://sc-trade.tools/mining 🙂

[dawn ermine]

Awesome, Thanks!

[formal glacier]

@crimson mantle

Per that tool, do you recommend Aberdeen? Or is there better places due to climate and terrain?

For roc mining

[crimson mantle]

With a pembroke armor from Lorville Arberdeen is survivable, and it really is the best place right now.
That being said, if you want to avoid the hotspots, anything around Hurston is very good.

[formal glacier]

Alright thanks!

I tried aberdeen but kept running into minables on slopes/mountains so stuff kept getting everywhere. Might of just been where I was looking tho.

Also tried without pembroke armor at one point. Almost died of heatstroke or something lol. Was on 1% before I drank at a r&r.

[crimson mantle]

Yeah, 218°C is kinda hot

[modern hedge]

is there a way to check how much laranite is left, or do i hav eto fly there and check manually

[last flame]

Gotta fly there

[crimson mantle]

@modern hedge Serious Table is correct. The rule of thumb is that there is never any laranite anywhere. You can always try though, and the "Alternative commodities" will show you other things to fill your cargo hold with.

[modern hedge]

lol, i just used all of my 50k on larantie

good enough for me

[rare gate]

I mostly use Tungsten, Diamond or Astanite when there's only a sad amount of Laranite left

all three have a pretty fair share

[last flame]

Yeah, going off the beaten path, or picking up materials less commonly traded will serve you really well.

Everyone's chasing that fat pay off, but a little bit at a time might beat them out just because of how frequently people are buying out laranite

[last flame]

It's weird. I feel like in all my time attempting to chase Agricium or Laranite, etc, all the high paying ores, I could have hunted for Gold/Titanium/Diamonds, and filled up and off-loaded three times, and made more

[dawn ermine]

what stat should I look at to mine the tougher rocks with the laser heads?

[lilac wigeon]

you need invest 108k in Helix mining head...

[fickle zephyr]

trade limits are too strict with all servers sharing the same stock and refill

[dense crescent]

I really enjoy mining but jesus christ, I keep getting attacked whenever I go out, It's really draining and frustrating

[fickle zephyr]

levski is reasonably peaceful

and aaron halo is 99.999% peaceful

i would prefer yela rings though but yeah, gladius everywhere

[dense crescent]

I've usually been okay on aberdeen but not since the mask challenhe came out

[fickle zephyr]

i have had success mining on aberdeen and selling on levski

but no quant on aberdeen

with ROC if you are far enough away from any outpost it should be ok

[pallid temple]

If you're ROC mining, don't mine on the dark side

Mine in the sunlight

[fickle zephyr]

i prefer to stay >100km away from any outpost or >50km if im lazy

[formal glacier]

What kinda income range can I expect with a prospector? Like about how much uec and hour? (Ex: 30000-60000 uec/hr).

[fickle zephyr]

100-200k

mining not quantanium (safe, reliable) around 100k and mining quantanium around 200k

its not more profitable than ROC but variation is nice

[last flame]

and the Prospector is less buggy than the ROC right now

[coarse vector]

making around 30K-60K in one hour with the Prospector

depending on luck... sometimes it's really dry

[fickle zephyr]

where do you mine?

[formal glacier]

its not more profitable than ROC but variation is nice
@fickle zephyr

On this, didn't the roc get kinda nerfed because hardinite was replaced with dolerite or whatever.

[fickle zephyr]

it takes longer to fill the cargo with hadanite now yeah

[formal glacier]

I got a roc with uec but also the tractor beam is a bit gimped right now too.

Doesn't help I'm currently using a aquila to run it around either lol. I need to swap to a msr.

[last flame]

Do we have confirmation the MSR will have a vehicle bay?

[earnest halo]

@formal glacier I was on a server last night with only 8 ppl online and the tractor beam was literally instant! So yes it is borked, but somehow by network lag :o

Like I turned it on and within 1 second (no exaggerations) it picked up 50 hadanite

[formal glacier]

Yeah I heard it's server related

[last flame]

Yup. It’s been highlighted in the patch notes as a known bug for causing “player stalls”

[formal glacier]

Do we have confirmation the MSR will have a vehicle bay?
@last flame

I remember hearing that it used to not hold a rover, but now it will.

[earnest halo]

@crimson mantle thata unfortunate that Aberdeen is just soo much more loaded, I want a good reason to be able to not fly back to the exact same moon, every day I get on the game, just to make decent money

[formal glacier]

https://m.twitch.tv/clip/ScrumptiousHumbleSpiderPrimeMe

[crimson mantle]

@earnest halo That's just the way it is this patch. I'm sure they'll keep balancing.

[last flame]

I’ll admit I’m in agreement. Getting really sick of Aberdeen. Lol

[formal glacier]

@last flame I posted a link to the msr question you had above

[last flame]

Appreciated

[formal glacier]

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/gookrz/confirmed_in_sc_live_the_mercury_can_transport_a/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=post_body