@brisk sapphire There will be a vehicle bay in the Mercury Star Runner
#industrial-professions
brisk sapphire
groovy many thanks , still would like a locking door , . in time i guess o7
pallid temple
Well it'll still be locked, but I assume there'll be some sort of elevator or ladder
tacit mauve
Is agricium supposed to be going volatile all the time? Is that just me or has anyone else experienced this? I used to be able to pick up agricium and never had it become volatile
mossy canyon
That usually happens after you have picked up quantanium and sold it. The next run gives a false alarm that can be ignored.
golden eagle
Does anyone have a mining guide?
I find i mine in my prospector and i can barely make like 30k a trip its so bad...
and i spend so much time looking for good rocks and all the rocks rarely have good ores in them and its so time consuming i could probably make more money running bounties. Im just wondering if im doing something wrong...
proven token
Prospector compared to the ROC isnt very good atm, you are required to get a HELIX lazer to mine decent ore.
soft rain
is there any good trading app on ipad that shows prices buy/sell for each planet?
crimson mantle
@soft rain I've done my best to make https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes mobile-friendly.
Feel free to try it and let me know if you encounter any usability issues!
crimson mantle
Unfortunately no, they are the static prices form the game's files: there are no API to gather the live data from the servers at this time 😦
soft rain
ok, but its kinda accurate?
crimson mantle
Oh yes
soft rain
perfect! off for a trading route!
crimson mantle
Best of luck, May the 30Ks spare you!
soft rain
Just have to find a place called Jumptown. Way of between 2 OM markers on Yela..
hollow sedge
I use this https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jvhljaLpaHOgsskhzJoCOwi6euMGAZ6BWVTV9Wj7tk8/edit?usp=sharing
soft rain
There should have been space coordinates 🙂 like gps but for space
crimson mantle
You can avoid hidden locations by checking the box in the "locations" section of the filters
serene quest
@golden eagle what are you focusing on in terms of “good rocks”?
Also, what kind of mining head are you using?
soft rain
Is there a good overview of the different rocks and value?
crimson mantle
I feel obligated to mention https://sc-trade.tools/mining 🙂
select your mining equipment and click the blue button
soft rain
Haha damn! How could i miss, its perfect
winged basin
This should be worth 30.25x100x32=96800
sometimes the game drives me insane
my budd lost three Helixes this week alone to bugs
crimson mantle
It could be that that location is almost bought-out on Laranite.
The price is dynamic.
PO for example will only refine 5scu of laranite per minute.
crimson mantle
Dolivine is the lowest tier of "hand minable" ore
winged basin
Thanks for the info!
soft rain
i saw it now under handtools in ut page 👍
golden eagle
@serene quest helix head, good rocks = quant, lara, agri, bex (basically the stuff high up on the rock tier lists for mining)
i spend probably hours looking for the rocks itself
and can never find good rocks
green sundial
where are you searching is a good question
hollow sedge
unless idont have helix head
he was heading to random locations he said.
I mentioned to him my sweet spot, he is supposed to be checking that out today
green sundial
well a specific moon?
hollow sedge
yela of course
green sundial
weird, lots of agricium there
hollow sedge
not always
by relative... I have found some areas to ahve very little and some a lot
green sundial
I've always have excellent luck
hollow sedge
everywhere you went on yela, being hte same excellent luck?
tell you a spot I never find Ag or Q. under om 2
everytime I go there, its crap
green sundial
may have had to search a bit more but yeah
hollow sedge
diamonds, gold, whatever else
green sundial
I've always had good luck
hollow sedge
well I spend about an hour or more but every 15 min at one location for ex, I have to empty out cause i find shit everywhere
the other place, nothing
idk why
i spend the same amount of time really, hours...
I can only stand it for an hour tho,. if i find nothing i get pissed and say, should have just gone to where i know i find it
green sundial
I can understand that
hollow sedge
maybe im interfereing with quanta or something weird
green sundial
mining is the fun part, searching sucks
green sundial
it would be cool if rocks also came with a few ROC mineables and FPMs around them
serene quest
@golden eagle i only focus Agre and Lara. Takes me less than an hour and I typically average 80-90k depending on how much Laranite I get
Just gotta try and be real economical. Scan and get the hell out. I typically start around Shubins.
I got lucky in the belt the other day
About 35min run for 99% Lara
Though I’m purchasing the Roc tomorrow and I’m hoping to see better gains. I’ll be renting the Cutlass for xport. So net should be relatively good
vestal plume
I recommend (apparently) not keeping the ROC on the cutty unless you're actually mining, and (apparently) don't store it with the ROC inside.
Bought the ROC 2 days ago, barely gotten to use it thanks for the maddening amount of back-to-back-to-back bugs it's caused. Super fun. So fun that I need a break from this 'game' now.
serene quest
I mean I intend on only using the cutty while I fly looking for gems
Disembark, haul, rinse and repeat until I’m full
Then head back to sell
But I’ll keep that in mind
soft rain
So is the ROC a good invest? Which ship can it fit inside?
Can the Argo jettison containers as per today?
pallid temple
The ROC can fit in any medium ship with a cargo bay and a ramp, and neither the Prospector nor the Argo MOLE jettison the saddlebags
granite meteor
. . . Yet d:
jade elm
can someone teach me to mine?
crimson mantle
@jade elm There's a fairly good guide in the pinned comments.
If you would prefer more 1-on-1 advice, consider using the guide system: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/guide
worldly vector
What do you plan to mine with? By hand, prospector, roc?
crimson mantle
Once you're familiar with the basics, you can explore possible locations here: https://sc-trade.tools/mining
soft rain
to spawn my ROC i have to go to a moon/planet and spawn at ground location somewhere right?
sick hearth
Looking for more for mining event tonight , we supply mole- roc we have scouts that radio back where to drop crews pm for more info
soft rain
so... new mining head.. is the Impact any good? Cant really afford the Helix
mossy canyon
Try the hofstede. it is a decent head for the money.
cosmic ice
I'd start with the hofstede and after immediately try to get the helix, the impact was a difficult one for me because of the high instability, you'll make 100K easy 👍
green sundial
hofstede will bring the money in until you get the helix
bleak spruce
ROC is crazy money making
soft rain
got thrown out when mining. When spawning, screen says "yela" on location ... before claiming it.. is it possible to use the tracking function for recovery? or does it not work yet
crimson mantle
tracking works if you are on the same server
serene quest
is there a rental kiosk at PO?
soft rain
what should happen when i press track on the screen? does a waypoint pop up?
pallid temple
No @serene quest
serene quest
ty
pallid temple
And tracking doesn't work
soft rain
whats the quickest way to pick up Hadanite?
its like a timer.. have to wait between each rock
hollow sedge
and ROC?.
pallid temple
The ROC isn't affected by this as much
soft rain
so the pricing.. it says ¤275 UEC
is that per....? rock
i have like 50gems collected in my backpack
pallid temple
It's 275 aUEC per gem yes
junior orchid
So in first route I have to go to stanton and find NT999XX and then go to yela to sell? Not sure I understand that
hollow sedge
sell at Grim HEX
buy at NT-999-XX
not sure that is a good run though
from my experience, for Etam, the yela - paradise cove to R&D hurston
is the best run
those guides, dont consier sell rates afaik
or buy rates...
nor the referesh rates
I could be wrong...
the paradise cove - r and d example is the third one in the list your linked
hmm i do see a timer ...
no way it takes 11 min to sell a titans max cargo
i can sell 20 scu etam in 10 min at R and D...
and insta buy it
perhaps its travel time
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jvhljaLpaHOgsskhzJoCOwi6euMGAZ6BWVTV9Wj7tk8/edit#gid=417045425 I use this, the vice tab is what you want to compare
gues you dont need to take that long trip as you have limited scu tho
lean heart
Hi,best planet to mining with prospector?
hollow sedge
What’s the best selling trade route that will make be double the money I used to buy the cargo?
soft rain
chepest place to buy Helix mine head? 108k all over?
green sundial
S2 is for the Mole
soft rain
thx
digital thorn
Does the ROC fit in the back of the Freelancer DUR?
hollow sedge
@lean heart Yela, moon around Crusader. Try under om 1, I have great luck up there 🙂
fiery rapids
any miners
want to mine
together
mining
Safest bet would be the cutty
@serene quest or max@digital thorn
somber bobcat
Hey guys, been a while since I last mined in SC. Are there hotkeys to use consumables while mining, and which would you recommend for Quantanium?
jade elm
any kind souls out there that would let me borrow a roc and ill mine, and we go 50/50 on proceeds
junior orchid
@hollow sedge I do not seem to find Paradise cove is location changing or smthing?
mossy canyon
ALT + 1, 2, 3 are the default keybinds for consumables @somber bobcat
hollow sedge
@junior orchid location is hidden. Have to watch youtube how to find for both locations.
junior orchid
@hollow sedge I have tried and failed. I am trading diamonds now not much profit but eh
hollow sedge
It's a pain in the assholes at first, learn the navigation, get the reward. YouTube vids help a lot
junior orchid
wtf diamonds are illegal cargo?
where the hell do I sell that
I was following guide it said sell at area 18 but it wont let me
hollow sedge
Diamonds is legal
Po
Diamonds and other legal trade are good to trade if you have a catapiller
If not, cutty black and illegals can be near same profits
Use restore mechanics to minimize risk to 30k
junior orchid
Thanks btw I got now other problem cant load my freelancer its just grey
hollow sedge
takes time sometimes to get the ship to appear. IVe noticed on cellin, the stash house terminal never seems to show your ship.
junior orchid
Nice I am okey now, but I have a question about trade routes I always pick route and the seller has second to none of the material and also the buyer has full stocks.. is there any trick to know which routes to pick or you just have to be lucky?
granite meteor
Gallog.co > trade > commodities > click on your commodity
Should give you an idea what the inventory capacities and refresh speeds of each route are
junior orchid
Thanks @granite meteor but I already checked that and still couldnt fill up my freelancer even rate was good 😄
granite meteor
Oh dang, inventories can fill up by other player activity across servers, so that can cause bottlenecks too
Not much can be done against that except diversifying your routes
junior orchid
Alright, its more complex than I though trying to make bucks but its hard 😄
hollow sedge
just wacked a couple Q deposits for a whopping 768k, cause the first run was a 3x sale @ 600k 😄 love that terminal bug!!!
serene quest
Oh damn lol
I’ve still been pretty wary about mining Q
Instantly afraid I’m not gonna make it back in time lol
hollow sedge
just gotta crack all the shards to extrabables before extracting and, I do one deposit at a time, so if there are two deposits near each other, thats two trips. 🙂
serene quest
almost shat myself. accidentally interacted with my ships power after a very big haul... nearly fell to the planet
reef narwhal
Hey i can't seem to spawn my ROC at either Yela or Daymar at the moment...anyone else having the same issue or have any ideas?
turbid bay
How do you jettison cargo in a prospector?
Trying alt+J from the keybindings in game but its not working
pallid temple
Its only for volatile cargo
ornate rock
at least as long as the ship thinks it's volatile
ionic needle
Best place to mine/trade in crusader in ptu?
junior orchid
Guys where do I sell my cargo? I was mining with my prospector (beryl etcetc) and I am at Baijini Point and Admin doesnt want my cargo
junior orchid
well I am going to Port Olisar that has one and will be mining on Yela, does it matter where I mine? I am not about Quantinanium (I am noob) so is yela good for prospector mining? (only have stock drill tho dont have money to upgrade on my rented prospector)
nova tinsel
you need to look for a refinery terminal
@ornate rock That would explain why I couldn't sell my Mole ores the other day xD
mossy canyon
Anywhere on Yela is fine, but you will be limited with the stock head @junior orchid
junior orchid
@mossy canyon I am aware but money is tight 😄
mossy canyon
Understood.
hollow sedge
I find directly under OM 1 to be rather lucrative comparred to all other locations on Yela ... but that is my general run of it.
for both agricium and quantanium. Yesterday, searched for ten min and found two deposits that made me over 750k in total.
crimson mantle
@granite meteor @junior orchid Consider using https://sc-trade.tools/commodities/Diamond, the numbers are pulled straight from the game's files!
junior orchid
Thanks but I cant mine Quanta yet dont have better mining head on prospector
crimson mantle
Ah no problem. When you do though, I've also been working on https://sc-trade.tools/mining to help miners! 🙂
crimson mantle
Are those ROC/hand-minables?
You need either a ROC to vacuum them up or pick them up by hand
The "diamonds" deposits are for the ROC usually
junior orchid
ok ROC is like vehicle that I can buy?
crimson mantle
yeah it's like a golf-cart with a mining arm
it will be available next patch for ~172k (as the rumors go)
nova tinsel
Or you can buy it right now on the pledge store for $ 😉
junior orchid
OK nice thanks and last question is it worth to buy that cheeper Drill head ( have only 60k) for my rented prospector? I cant mine bigger rocks with stock one
crimson mantle
Usually I would say it is worth it, but the next patch will fix the bug where you can switch equipment on rented ships.
so unless you outright own the propector, you would only use the new head for ~1 week
junior orchid
1 week is fine as long as I can mine bigger rocks I will make my run for it since I am saving for my own prospector
crimson mantle
then the Helix is very good, yes
Also I'm saying 1 week: I don't really know when the patch will hit
junior orchid
well Helix is for 100k that I dont have, I can afford Impact one
crimson mantle
it could be soon
Just don't forget to unequip the mining head before the rental timer expires!
junior orchid
Sure
crimson mantle
In the meantime you can also overclock you mining head in the power menu to give it an extra edge.
Shields/thrusters may become power-starved though
junior orchid
Its fine only using frontal shield but still never exploded a rock
native junco
is hand mining broken or is it just me?
serene quest
@crimson mantle i didn’t think you could OC the mining head any further than winding it up to 100%?
Also tip for anyone out there roc mining: do yourself a favor and pick up the novikov armor
@hollow sedge i agree, the poles seem to be hotspots for mining nodes
serene quest
Yea I didn’t think so
ornate rock
maybe it did something at some point, but right now it does nothing
serene quest
I attempted that once to try and burn through with the stock mining head. And the power is already OC’d when you wind up to 100%
junior orchid
How do you guys find minerals efectivelly I was searching for 30 minutes and found only one decent Agricium ore 😄
hollow sedge
well that sounds about right...
but the way to decrease the time between finding deposits ...
id say pilots likely have a good idea what speed and elevation works best for scanning,
using vtol vs not using vtol
any particular habits youd notice finding good deposits vs poor deposits? correlations?
for me, I set the crusie control speed thingy at 300 m/s and use that as a top speed burst... only scanning though when 150 m/s which is the max speed for 100% performance or agility... meaning not in the red.
I also go to the one spot I know yields resuls...
I pick random direction but always thinking like a pie, 1/4's of a circle...
I head in that direction and next run I change...
I dont use vtol
Im at about 500 elevation
I notice the bursts of scanning goes well with my ships speed. I hit C and move up to 300 m/s then turn it off, by the time im at 150, im ready to scan again.
I just move from box to box, or as I see it, hop...
I hop like a rabbit from one deposit to anotehr, if they are that close
🙂
I prefer under om1 on yela
Idk why I jsut dont get luck anywhere else like I do there
but its fast and easy to get to GH when I do find Q.
so your goal would be to design a system and way of flying that is fast, but also efficient.
once you discover it, youll notice the time gets better and youll start finding one, two, three deposits in that half hour
crafts that are done by hand, and take effort or focus, usually start to improve by 50% each repitition. when in harmony with the craft at least, that is my experience. but onyl to a point.
deminishing returns
discover your system
thats prolly the best I got
oh, when flying, the prospector has poor brakes, so I only turn in direction when Im hardly moving...
think, point to point ... in stright lines
be efficient
can also help to scan at the deposits...
move from one to another
thats how I find them linking at times
together i mean
errant cradle
harsh flax
soft rain
Any rec moons on Arccorp for mining? Wala any good?
junior orchid
Wala is not bad I was farming htere
@hollow sedge Thanks for nice answer apriciated
quick owl
Can we now eject inert materials?
crimson mantle
@soft rain Feel free to try https://sc-trade.tools/mining, with location and mineral filters!
vivid gyro
Hey just wondering, is a full crew for a mole maximum profit so far in game ?
serene quest
Rn i believe ROC offers the most $/time
blissful rain
yea it does
and u dont need a prospector or mole
just load the roc in your cutty black
crimson mantle
ROC rocks spawn is changed in 3.11
Adjusted spawning system for ROC and hand mineables to make a variety of minerals more likely to spawn and makes mining on more inhospitable planets more profitable.
No sure yet if that's for the better or worse, but I'll get the info updated on https://sc-trade.tools/mining as soon as the patch hits.
sick hearth
anyone want to get in on a mining mission at 17;30 UTC, please send a private message for invite
require more for mole
robust rose
wheres a good place to mine with a prospector, had the thing 6months an never got around to using it haha
crimson mantle
You can use https://sc-trade.tools/mining to look up locations. The best ores are hard to mine with the default stock head, and mining planet-side can be a pain with the atmo flight rework.
crimson mantle
@hollow sedge it reads the game's files.
The final OVI value is derived from ore value at market price, ore rarity inside a deposit and deposit rarity on the surface/volume of space.
I added a bit more info in https://sc-trade.tools/home#faq and the tooltips 🙂
hollow sedge
thank you for sharing!
frank grove
Question that just hit me: does anyone have any data on the average size/resistance of rocks in different locations? With the component hot-swap being patched out in 3.11, anyone renting a Prospector will be limited to the wimpy mining head that it comes with. So, if there's something that can be done such as mining in space or whatever to find easier to break rocks, that could be useful.
crimson mantle
Hum, it's definitely in the deposits' files, but I've not correlated it with mining heads yet.
hollow sedge
@crimson mantle this thing is crazy cool... so its saying that the moons of microtech are the best possible in game atm for Quantanium. Id like to see more of the data that you use, any sheets you have that may be shared, so I can learn more?
crimson mantle
@hollow sedge The database is all in a graph-like structure, so it's really not very easy to share.
But it's not like I don't want to share it! What would you like to see?
hollow sedge
the data behind the mining deposits, purity, % , distance... any sort of that, ... seems to make me feel like with some of that data, the OVI data, one could map out ideas
mentally I mean
Im not great at making spreasheets, just wonder how all this is organized and calculated
im a half to go test out the moons of MT now ... 🙂
been reccommending yela but sheet... MT moons are way better if your charts are accurate
or maybe I misunderstand but I assume higher number is better
Ore Value Index (OVI)
crimson mantle
Right, MT's moons are better, but Yela does have the close-by Grim HEX to sell to. That's a big perk.
You got it right!
crimson mantle
I use https://github.com/dolkensp/unp4k to extract the raw files.
Then it's a whole lot of parsing work, cross-referencing, data cleaning and data linking
hollow sedge
cheers for sharing!
wish I had parents who didnt have the attitude of, video games will rott your brains. all this is much learning experience for me.
crimson mantle
I didn't expose the raw data because, for example, quantanium deposits have a quantanium percent in them of 1% to 20%, following a curve of y=1+19x^3 (x in [0,1])
I thought that as such, it's not terribly useful, which is why I compute it in the OVI.
But I could add more data if people would find it more useful.
hollow sedge
well tbh, for someone like me who has little knowledge of this sorts, it helps a ton cause Im actualyl seeking to learn. so to see what others have mastered or have created, is a gold mine of information.
crimson mantle
I'll see what I can do to make that data accessible in some way in the future!
soft rain
The Scanning.
- Is it same scanning on Freelancer as in Prospector? Or is the prospector scanning better at finding materials?
crimson mantle
@soft rain The same, for now.
soft rain
Thx. So.. Its fully possible for me to take a Freelancer with a Greycat.. Scan and land and mine with ROC. I thought i had to bring my prospector for better scanning
crimson mantle
If you can fit the ROC in the freelancer, yes there's no problem doing that at all.
People have been ferrying their ROCs around with a cutlass for a while now.
soft rain
Not sure why. But i have a hornet, freelancer for no apparent reason in my store
crimson mantle
Everyone has those as temporary loaners at the moment as CIG is working on a bug fix for them.
Since they want test data, they are lending them out 🙂
soft rain
Cool 🙂 So thats why ill fit the ROC in the FL 👌
Free transport
I got killed by cold in the Greycat. Guess its no isolation in it for the cold temps at Yela.. I spawned at PO and went back. And the Roc was still there.. So my question
- Does anyone know how long a ship or ground vehicle will be spawned for when left or killed in?
crimson mantle
If you have 3 or less vehicles spawned: indefinitely as long as you're in the server.
rare gate
otherwise unless its destroyed or reclaimed
soft rain
Cool, nice to know when shit goes sideways. Does it apply for mining as well? If a rock has been fractured and u have to leave it for 1h or so to do other bizz and then come back? Or is it all respawned as new rock with diff properties?
Is it possible to steal ships? Only if the owner unlocks it right?
crimson mantle
Rocks respawn in 1h as per game's files (I have not verified this in-game myself).
They also seem to change if no one is around
Is it possible to steal ships? Only if the owner unlocks it right?
@soft rain Correct
It has to have been opened once.
And they potentially can reclaim it from under you.
soft rain
Does it become a crime when that happens? Or how is that handled since it was a crime 😎
Imagine being full of expensive cargo
crimson mantle
Not sure, I stay on the right side of the law myself.
You cannot sell cargo from a ship that isn't yours though.
soft rain
Me too. just curious what other can do to me
pallid temple
You used to be able to sell cargo from someone else's ship, but they fixed that for 3.9
soft rain
any moon around hurston good for mining? Aberdeen?
crimson mantle
@soft rain With the prospector or the ROC?
soft rain
Prospector
crimson mantle
Then everything but Arial
Looks like Aberdeen and Ita are better though: Magda is a lot of diamonds
naive maple
Hey y’all... I’ve been gone for a couple months... What’s the new maximum profit from trade runs with the Caterpillar?... in LIVE, not the PTU
crimson mantle
@naive maple I've got you covered!
https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes
Although the shops inventories are now limited: they will be sold out of the best stuff usually.
naive maple
Does this take into account the limited supply at locations? Is that still a thing?
Ah
crimson mantle
You can view the replenish rates by ticking "Miscellaneous" > "Show stock details"
The website does take it into account, but it's the static game's files data, not the LIVE server data.
naive maple
Hmmm... I’m looking for a steady, repeatable run
crimson mantle
In a caterpillar?
naive maple
Yes
naive maple
What do I set the refresh rate to in order to show commodities that are always in excess of 57,600?
crimson mantle
The refresh rate is per minute, but it all depends on how many people trade from those shops too: all servers are connected in that regard.
But you shouldn't have problems with a refresh rate of 57600: if it's sold out, wait 1 min.
quick owl
I dont have any data to prove this but ROC minables may have a higher spawn rate on Yela, I found alot of rocks to small for a prospector but to large for a hand miner, unless this was already known and im late to the party
soft rain
is it possible somehow when scanning with Non mining ships to get info about the rock?
for example going with FC and ROC in 1 pilot config
digital thorn
@soft rain yes for now all ships can scan for minables and show details
that won't always be true but it is for now
soft rain
sweet
cant get the rock info up when just using the scanner. i find the rock, but no info about what it is
soft rain
thx
will try! how to scan when on foot? tab doesnt work 🙂 no small scanner in the mining fps eq? had the attachment and al
pallid temple
You need to aim down sight with the multitool whilst it has the mining bit equipped
But you can't scan every rock this way
hollow sedge
Can you fps mine surface rocks? Been playing with a friends roc, but havent gotten the suit yet. Figure id scan with a ship
naive maple
Are the Novikof and Pembroke armor inventories fixed... been gone over a month and when I left, they were broken
pallid temple
They're fixed for 3.11
hollow sedge
Was reading you could unload inventory into ship cargo in 3.11
hollow sedge
Oooo ok
pallid temple
But for 3.11, you'll be able to directly access the inventory of the ROC
And take gems out of that inventory, and put them into your own inventory
soft rain
my ROC just died. Engines wont work. Have been mining for 10-15mins on Yela. Al of the sudden it started up again
frank grove
If the MFDs work, check the condition of the various components. I've heard the Coolers can wear out on the ROC
naive maple
Theoretical Laranite runs garnered from website calculators netting 300k AUEC set aside,... does anyone know of any ACTUAL high profit trade runs that fill up a Caterpillar currently in existence in the LIVE version?... are there any valuable commodities that are available in chunks of 57,600 units? Where?... or at least, what commodity? ... If not, any word if 3.11 is going to make Caterpillars useful again?
frank grove
Change up your meta. Sure, you're not making the massive Laran runs anymore, but heck even running Scrap is hugely profitable if you carry enough of it, which the Cat can
hasty zenith
@naive maple Diamonds out of Tram & Myer Mining at Cellin to Hurston is a good one. ~80k profit per run, you can run Scrap out of Everus Harbor, or something else, to Port Olisar on the return trip. T&M stocks soo much diamonds that you can almost consistently get them for 5.65 aUEC a unit. Be warned that T&M doesn't have an armistice zone.
hollow sedge
yes
fresh pine
coolio. will it fit in an avenger titan?
pallid temple
No
pallid temple
Just about, you want a Cutlass Black for it
pallid temple
Well 3.11 is in Open PTU... so literally any day now
fresh pine
ah poops
I was planning to get a prospector rental and use the bug to put in a Impact mining head and make some space bucks
pallid temple
Well that won't be a thing as of 3.11
fresh pine
Yes, I heard that, hence the "ah poops" comment 😄
sorry for the coarse language 
will they give a day or two of warning before patch hits, or it is just BOOM surprise patch nao?
fresh pine
@pallid temple poke
lavish monolith
@fresh pine probably no warning, if I'd guess, it will probably even come out tomorrow
hollow sedge
ok, I tried mining on one of the moons at MT and man was it a pain in the ass! Anyone have any tips?
If youre starting/solo you want a tame atmosphere
What was a pain for you exactly?
hollow sedge
yea, flying around... and for some reason I had one "engine" failure. I had repaired and refuled at the orbital before heading to one of the moons. I did some YTing and have a better idea of what to expect. Though I do feel currently the system Ive been using is still faster, mining on yela. cheers tho
hollow sedge
Prospector or roc?
frank grove
ROC has higher earning potential, if you have a ship to carry it around in. The Freelancer can manage that just barely, but the Cutlass Black is supposedly better for that job
hollow sedge
If it fits in the Fl its nice having a side entrance.
Have had many points of panic because the ramp got stuck on a cactus as we frantically try to jump around to get back in the ship
Freelancer probably harder to fly in atmosphere tho. We always use cutlas so haven’t tried it yet
dense crescent
Can confirm, the cutlass black works wonderfully with the ROC
The ramp can be a little iffy though and if you land on a rock, sometimes the ramp is raised to a point where the ship is inaccessible.
hollow sedge
So far been able to jump from a cactus->on the side of the roc->roll up to ramp.
If you close and reopen ramp it goes lower for a few seconds.
serene quest
FL does work... but it can be frustrating to get the ROC inside of it. Will eat into your profits over time (I think my longest was about 5 minutes trying to get back in lol)
lean heart
Hi,best planet for mining with roc?
dense crescent
Yela
pallid temple
...Its Arial
dense crescent
Is it? Oh
pallid temple
Well for 3.10 it is
serene quest
idk Microtech is pretty good
hollow sedge
Arial pretty hostile environment
pallid temple
They fixed Arial getting super hot for 3.11
hollow sedge
Ooo ok nice
pallid temple
Apparently 300 celsius is "excessively hot"
hollow sedge
Yeah my buddy had the hotsuit, waited until 2 minutes left but still died in ship
Hydration plummeted or he just couldnt cool down in time.
pallid temple
Both
soft rain
my greycat laser stopped working. spawned a new.. still not working. bug?
nova tinsel
Hmm I cant sell my prospector mines are this trading console, cant see the mine in its inventory 🤔 Did I miss a step?
frank grove
@nova tinsel prospector sells to refinery terminals, not trade terminals. They have a slightly different look to them, but they're usually close by. Where are you?
nova tinsel
@nova tinsel prospector sells to refinery terminals, not trade terminals. They have a slightly different look to them, but they're usually close by. Where are you?
@frank grove HUR-L1 Green Glade, Admin Office
frank grove
Yeah, that's your first problem. Currently, you can only sell Prospector minerals at Port Olisar, GrimHEX, and the three Cities: Lorville, Area18, and New Babbage.
I hope for your sake you aren't hauling Quantanium
nova tinsel
Yeah, that's your first problem. Currently, you can only sell Prospector minerals at Port Olisar, GrimHEX, and the three Cities: Lorville, Area18, and New Babbage.
I hope for your sake you aren't hauling Quantanium
@frank grove whyyyyyyyyyyyy
No I think I only have shit in the cargo
frank grove
Just how the game is. Supposed to be getting refinery decks in 3.12 but until then you gotta go where the terminals are
nova tinsel
Think its irrelevant now, I glitched out of my ship in the middle of QT 😄
frank grove
Personally, I prefer to mine on Yela, because you have GrimHEX right there to sell to if you find Quantanium
soft rain
How far from the normal QT outpost is normally QuanT found? I guess its not close to any default shelter or mining site? Never found any.. Trying to get as far from the stations on yela as i can
frank grove
Just pick a direction, I try and fly towards the sun if it's going down, and ping until you find it.
I don't think there's a specific minimum distance from outposts. It's just very rare.
digital thorn
turned off my ROC after breaking up 5 rocks but not collecting them....hit 6 FPS for a solid minute
serene quest
I agree that Yela is probably the better mining planet for Prospector
come across decent amounts of Q both planet side and nearby asteroids
midnight egret
What's the average you guys get per hour with a Prospector around Yela?
tall linden
Anyone doing multicrew mining was wanting to try it out
naive maple
@hasty zenith really?... best use of a Caterpillar is a mere $80k per hour... damn that’s horrendous
sweet kite
@tall linden I built a tool to apraise and track mining ops, after a few days of mining and tracking multi crew mining is best suited to 2 players in mole with a helix laser and hefteds or something else on the other 2
40k-100k an hour as a range, averaging 70k with little effort at cellin
that is splitting the earnings between the 2 people
tall linden
ahh ok about how long does each run take?
sweet kite
30-60 minutes, usually 50
tall linden
what is a good build for a mole?
sweet kite
from port oli, from ship terminal to the refinery terminal
just replace the lasers
100k for the helix 2
tall linden
ok
sweet kite
and you only need 1 of them
tall linden
should i replace the other 2?
sweet kite
look at the stats and buy 2 of the others for what ever you want, but the other seats should just be empty
tall linden
and is yela worth mining?
sweet kite
Cant say for certain, but cellin doesn't spawn stuff that is hand minable, so it helps in finding rocks quickly
and we have seen single asteroids there that are worth 120k
rare but it happens
tall linden
Ok is that in the belt or on planet
sweet kite
on the moon
tall linden
ahhh okay
late mortar
What did you use to collect those stats?
serene quest
@sweet kite hilarious ship name, also what tracker did you use for those stats?
sweet kite
one I wrote
I will be sharing it at some point in the future, I looked at a lot of the tools that existed and found the UI/UX to be lacking, or the performance to not be so great
serene quest
looks great, keep up the good work! can't wait to give it a test drive.
serene quest
does that store all asteroid data from each event entered?
like could you run a report for your data set based on what you've collected?
serene quest
interesting... with enough data you could actually run average mass sizes and minerals per planet per location and source high yield locations
sweet kite
yep
going to build a backend to store the information
and coordinate "Mining Deployments" so you can ahve multiple moles pooling data together
sweet kite
also working on a trade tool
to do the same concept
also I don't trust the in game timer for quantainium lol, so that beeps at you in the browser
serene quest
lolol, I could def use that. especially when I have to run and stop my kid from losing his shit lol
sweet kite
that is also why I have the operational time in there, take out bio breaks and things
so you can pause the timer
serene quest
can't wait to see/use it when it's done. It's looking really good as it is
that's awesome
sweet kite
oh it also auto spreads the taxes on the crew
serene quest
a tool like this would push me to work with a bigger crew lol
wait there's a crew tax? lol
sweet kite
so if you had 4 people in a single mole ( I would NOT do that)
and you make 100k
it calculates how much to send from the mole pilot
so the tax is evenly shared by every one
hence why pilot payment is not 125k
serene quest
ahh i see
i also noticed that it's a p/hr paymet and you'd spent just shy an hour, so the calc runs that as well.
sweet kite
The best way to use it is have the pilot run the tool
serene quest
that's really great
sweet kite
and the miner tell him the rock make ups
The apriasal tool also gives basic advice on if you should mine something or not
then you load the data into the op based on your decisions
crack some rocks
move on
rinse repeat
at the end he can hit stop timer at the refinery terminal
enter the value that comes out
and then know exactly what to send every one
so no thinking, we went from 30ish k an hour runs
to 75+
sweet kite
I need to get a place to host it before I push it out into the wild
turbid bay
Is it not? I suppose profits per crew member would be smaller the more crew you bring
Has anyone run the numbers on this?
hasty zenith
@naive maple That's actually 200k/hour if you have a TS2 drive equipped on the Cat.
Maybe even more than that.
turbid bay
So I've just run some loose numbers.
Prospector has 32 SCU and your average high yield run of Larinite works out at around 75k.
MOLE has 3X capacity at 96 SCU so the same run would net an estimated 225k. So a mole with 2 crew would be more profitable per crew member but one you get to 3 it makes no difference. Plus this is all assuming the mole is at the same speed as the prospector (which I'm sure it isn't) and the maintenance costs for fuel etc are the same.
On paper it can be more profitable in a very specific scenario. I think the moles strengths come from providing a social mining experience rather than a straight profit/cashflow boost
nova tinsel
Can someone give me a tldr on how to mine with the prospector? I went to Yela and mined some rocks but it seems like I only got shit
Like 6k credits for a full cargo xD
turbid bay
Only mine good rocks. Do not mine bad rocks. Do not mine any rocks that have a <80% ore value unless it's quant, or if you just want to fill up to get back
There's spreadsheets you can Google that tell you what good rocks are
If I had the time I would make a yt vid but there are already guides out there that cover this extensively
obtuse night
After you break the rock avoid the low percentage stuff as it’s full of inert material which is a killer
But mining at first with the stock head isn’t super profitable
Things change with the Helix mining head
nova tinsel
Only mine good rocks. Do not mine bad rocks. Do not mine any rocks that have a <80% ore value unless it's quant, or if you just want to fill up to get back
@turbid bay Where is the limit of good rocks and back rocks? I have the list up of rock prices
And how do you see the ore value?
solid ember
Anyone know where the most profitable place to mine in 3.11 with a roc is?
chilly flower
what's the best methods for trade? i'm trying to make the money to rent a Prospector
turbid bay
@nova tinsel that's something only experience can teach you. I would say pick an ore type and mine that and everything upwards in value. See how it works out for you.
frank grove
I tend to prefer Agricium or better in mining with Prospector.
what's the best methods for trade? i'm trying to make the money to rent a Prospector
@chilly flower
What ship do you have to haul cargo with?
chilly flower
I tend to prefer Agricium or better in mining with Prospector.
@frank grove I got the Freelancer and Avenger Titan
frank grove
Okay, so, you're not gonna get a lot of high profit out of trade with a Freelancer. You can get some, but it'll be pretty high risk compared to the reward.
Honest advice? Wait two weeks or so, until we have 3.11 out. Do some grinding of bounty/Merc/ECN (combat missions around Hurston, good pay) in the meantime to grind up ~200k. Then buy a ROC, use the Freelancer to carry it and mine with it.
If you really want to trade: https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes
But as far as just renting the Prospector? Just do some combat missions. Much faster than trying to trade for that money
turbid bay
Personally I use Agricium. as my ship mining "benchmark". Titanium is acceptable as an additional ore but I wouldn't mine it by itself
Especially seeing as I find Agricium clumps together more into higher percentages
There is an image that shows mining guidelines for newer players but I'm at work and don't have it to hand
sweet kite
@turbid bay I can confirm that the mole is only worth using with 2 crew, your harvest speed is not significantly faster with 2/3 miner, the big advantages is the scan range so you can find good clusters faster. Regularly hitting 120-150k worth of ore is not difficult with 2 people un 45-50 minutes per run on cellin. I have not collected data on other moons or in asteroid belts yet, but that is equal or greater than what I can with a vanguard warden chaining bounty missions in the same planet.
chrome ibex
Is there any possible way to sell SLAM. My friend made me buy quite a bit and I can't find anywhere to sell it.
frank grove
Is there any possible way to sell SLAM. My friend made me buy quite a bit and I can't find anywhere to sell it.
@chrome ibex
I think the general answer is GrimHEX, but that can give you others
chrome ibex
THank you ver much
blissful rain
OMG MSR Has been released!!!! flyable!!! https://du-creators.org/creators/Digital Nimbus Inc./ship/Star Sprinter
hollow sedge
@chrome ibex SLAM is purchased at the hidden terminal at CRU - L5.
When I use the https://sc-trade.tools/best-buyer and search for slam with a 5000 qty, it reccommends me to go to CRU - L4 ... and that is NOT a good place to sell your SLAM.
dense crescent
@blissful rain DU bad
blissful rain
@dense crescent hello there
dense crescent
But it's still a nice render of the MSR
soft rain
To find the caves... is it recommended to do locate missions first? Or is there other ways to find em
hollow sedge
From my research, investigation missions or youtube. My impression is youre better off doing contracts than fps mining, but im still new
Only time I did a few was in 3.8 iirc? they were fun, investigation missions or rescue missions or someshit
(Scanning doesnt find caves or fps mining rocks)
@crimson mantle im curious, I checked out that github page and dl the pack and am using the BASIC GUI method. I can see the file tree for data, engine, and mods. What Im curious to is where did you find the data revovling around deposits in here? cheers for any tips!
crimson mantle
@hollow sedge
- I can't answer questions on unp4k itself: you should contact the contributors to that project for that.
- the mining data is scattered all over the place in the game's files: there are files for commodities, deposit composition, deposit textures and locations, necessary mining energy to fracture, files for geographical distribution, clustering, etc. It's all cross-referenced by IDs.
It's a lot of digging around 🙂
@hollow sedge If you want to start data-mining, you could look at how https://github.com/richardthombs/scunpacked does it. It's open-source and deals with items and shops.
hollow sedge
thank you
hollow sedge
Anyone know if you could fit 2 rocs in a freelancer max?
pallid temple
Yes
vocal merlin
Ive been exclusively rented-Prospector mining for income. I'm up to about 1.5 mil. As I get close to the price of a prospector I'm wondering if my money would be best spent there or on an entirely different class of ship. Could anyone give me insight on where might be a good/optimal first step into expanding a fleet?
ornate rock
with 3.11 the trick to change the mining head on the rentals will be gone, so you might benefit from owning your own prospector
especially if you enjoy mining, I'd go for the safe bet first instead of switching to an activity you might not enjoy.
crimson mantle
@vocal merlin I can also assure you, for having it parsed already, that (for the current PTU build at least), ship mining will stay the exact same in 3.11.
frank grove
I really wish they would add an in-game lore-friendly way to swap the heads. Maybe an NPC at GH that would do it for an extra fee or something
digital thorn
@frank grove , all ship customizations will have something like that in the future.
frank grove
all ship customizations will have something like that in the future.
@digital thorn
Yeah, and that's awesome, I look forward to it. But will they do unlawful ones like this?
serene quest
@vocal merlin Imo get a ship that can carry a ROC like the Cutty
tacit birch
Freelancer is just barely to small I think if it were 2 inches wider it would work, but then would catch on the turret, Constellation fits like a glove, and the way its cargo bay drips to the ground is perfect for deploying the ROC.
soft rain
My Helix laser is gone. Bought it few days ago... how could that be? 108k lost
frank grove
Welcome to the Verse. Sometimes components go missing. It sucks, but it happens
soft rain
108k lost 🙂
sometimes... i wonder
why dont u make a small sized game that works... and then build it bigger
get the basics right.. then make it larger..
or.. u start 1000 projects and try to do they at the same time 🙂
2045.. then we are there
frank grove
There are games that did that, nothing keeping you here. 108k is nothing with the Helix head once you have it, and even easier with the ROC
crimson mantle
Better to mine with the ROC before 3.11 hits... take my word for it.
crimson mantle
it's nerfed 34 to 94%, depending on locations 🙂
I'll have the details when 3.11 goes to LIVE
hollow sedge
I figured
crimson mantle
as they could still change it from the current build
hollow sedge
So thats just material spawn/planet reworking?
green sundial
their more variety meant more dolivine and less hadanite. they didn't even include Aphorite for ROC minables
crimson mantle
Hadanite is worth the same, etc. There's just a lot less of it.
@green sundial is correct
hollow sedge
Yeah right now im finding 5-12 rock hadenite clusters
green sundial
you won't in 3.11
hollow sedge
Yea
crimson mantle
it'll all be on https://sc-trade.tools/mining when the patch goes LIVE
I'll do another parsing pass to see if anything changed last minute
hollow sedge
Yep I gots your site bookmarked already. Really awesome
green sundial
they really should have had Aphorite for ROC mining
its already in as the Dolivine deposit
crimson mantle
They added much much more fps minable though, maybe that'll compensate somewhat
or maybe it'll just throw sensors off even more!
hollow sedge
Youll be able to scan fps rocks in 3.11?
crimson mantle
I thought they already showed up as diamonds as well. I might be mistaken though.
They are very rare in 3.10
green sundial
....you have to be right on top of FPS stuff though to find it
hollow sedge
Ah ok, not sure still new. That big space4games mining guide is for 3.9
green sundial
its signature is weak
my mining guide is up to date for 3.10 and working on 3.11 atm
hollow sedge
Same name as discord?
green sundial
hmm?
hollow sedge
(I felt weird asking for a link). Whats it called?
hollow sedge
Thank you!
hollow sedge
Yeah google did not uncover this for me, will cruise these forums from now on
green sundial
I call it a 98% guide because theres always something, some smal detail thats missing or was only there on that day I tested something
know what I mean?
hollow sedge
Yeah, but any info is great info. Esp for a game in alpha
green sundial
well enjoy
serene quest
When is the mining change supposed to go through? 3.11? Tryna grind out enough ROC mining before they fix the 100% hadanite rate lol.
serene quest
Gonna eat through those profits
As it is I’m making like ~120k/hr
Any idea when 3.11 is planned to release?
serene quest
Damn I gotta try and get on it then
Also how the hell did you manage to get the ROC right side up if it flips?
verbal cargo
nudge it with your ship
serene quest
Tried, it kept sliding all over the surface due to high winds
Whole thing wound up blowing up and taking my ship with me
hollow sedge
How do I use the mining gun?
frank grove
First person or ship?
scenic wigeon
vivid gyro
any ships besides freelancers, connies, and cutties that can fit a roc in it?
carrack i guess , i think that's it then
lethal depot
Flipping the ROC... https://youtu.be/cfIwIVNKAkI
vale barn
Ok guys, I'm just new in the game >< How can I start mining? Do i need to buy special tools? And if yes, where can I buy it?
And where an I refuel my spaceship? I just stranded on Mincrotech and I'm feeling like Santa is living there
chilly flower
@vale barn Hey man, I started not too long ago but I can help you out both here and I game if you want it.
For mining it’s best to start with FPS mining which you’ll need to buy a multi tool and mining attachment for, which can be bought at Levski which I believe is on Delamar.
As for refueling, you can do it at pretty much anywhere with a landing pad using the MobiGlas while sitting in the pilots seat of your ship
ionic needle
best place to mine is literally right outside of grim hex
a trick (exploit?) ive found that works well is to go about 2k out. put yourself in front of a rock, go AFK for an hour (maybe post on spectrum), then when you come back a 15%quant rock will have spawned in front of you.
ornate rock
if I had to spend an hour on spectrum I'd also start imagining things that aren't there 
ionic needle
lols
lavish monolith
anyone knows some good trading routes in 3.11? 😄
hollow sedge
The SC trade tools guy said he would update his site when 3.11 goes live
soft rain
When is 3.11 due? any hour or day now ? 🙂
will it be possible to pick up cargo from the container from Greycat in 3.11? think i read it or dreamt it somewhere
frank grove
When is 3.11 due? any hour or day now ? 🙂
@soft rain
The server update is right now
pallid temple
You will be able to interact with the cargo bay for the ROC for 3.11 @soft rain
soft rain
so within the hour maybe 🙂
are they running AMD Zen 3 servers? then its a few mins 🙂
any cool updates for the mining peps on 3.11? prospector get any cool functions?
bright star
nth new/changes with the ship mining from what i've seen/heard
pallid temple
No new mining changes
frank grove
Ship mining is the same. ROC got some nerfs. According to SC Trade tools hand mining got a HUGE buff
ornate rock
it needed that
hand mining was busted before the ROC was even introduced, ROC just made it even worse.
the core problem has been how long it takes to pick up minerals though, and that didn't change.
pallid temple
It got fixed for 3.11
ornate rock
I doubt it until I see it on LIVE
hollow sedge
Is it worth using the mole for solo mining or should I just use the prospector
verbal cargo
just use the prospector
smoky olive
does any one know where to buy the roc?
pallid temple
Lorville
smoky olive
thnx
verbal cargo
is PO supposed to have a cargo deck?
harsh plaza
what rentable ship has the largest cargo capacity?
pallid temple
No @verbal cargo
pallid temple
Well it is 3.11.0, and the .0 patch is almost always a shit show
soft rain
my roc got spawned under ground
after i got into it.. it leveled out
drove.... hit a rock.. (before i could drive thru the small rocks) got thrown to the side. thats ok.
Then from nowhere he flew up to the sky and i fall out
end of story
Classic SC coding
blissful sparrow
Does anyone here use a Cutlass blue to transport their ROC? How do you find loading/unloading??
serene quest
Does it have less or more space than the black?
blissful sparrow
A little less. I know a roc technically "fits" but I wanna know if anyone actually uses one regularly and its not buggy as hell.
daring vale
I am new to mining and have only a handheld laser - where should I go to mine, and what should I look for? What is the most likely payout for basic findings carried on my person?
thin juniper
I am new to mining and have only a handheld laser - where should I go to mine, and what should I look for? What is the most likely payout for basic findings carried on my person?
@daring vale https://space4games.com/en/games-en/star-citizen-mining/
frank grove
I am new to mining and have only a handheld laser - where should I go to mine, and what should I look for? What is the most likely payout for basic findings carried on my person?
@daring vale
I would also recommend https://sc-trade.tools/mining
junior orchid
Yo guys, putting Helix on rented prospector no longer possible in 3.11?
cunning mason
Does anyone know where I could sell all this slam I bought? I can't find any hidden consoles or sell it at GRIM hex
it's my all my money -
frank grove
it's my all my money -
@cunning mason
There's your first problem. Never invest everything you have in cargo.
I don't actually know that anyone is buying SLAM right now
daring vale
SLAM?
frank grove
Question of my own: what is the armor that provides heat protection?
frank grove
Thanks doc!
pallid temple
You can get it at Tammy and Sons in Lorville for 15k
The helmet and the suit are two separate items
frank grove
Any chance it comes in red?
pallid temple
No
frank grove
:'(
vernal birch
is there a 3.11 spreadsheet/?
noble trellis
crimson mantle
@cunning mason There is no shop that buys SLAM in 3.11. At all.
@noble trellis There has been absolutely no change in ship mining in 3.11.
ROC has been nerfed a fair amount.
crimson mantle
@visual karma It is accurate, see the details: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/j7fo0h/311_miners_patch_notes_summary_datamining/
Oh you can still do full runs, might just take longer to fill up on pure Hadanite 🙂
Hadanite is worth the same, it's just rarer
frank grove
@crimson mantle I feel like half of this channel could just be your tools with no questions asked, thank you for doing so much work for the community
green sundial
all he needs to do now is also list out all the FPS stuff and where to find it along with ship purchase and rentals
crimson mantle
@frank grove Thansk for the kind words! I do try to make all this info available to as many people as possible 🙂
midnight egret
A little less. I know a roc technically "fits" but I wanna know if anyone actually uses one regularly and its not buggy as hell.
@blissful sparrow A late response. I ran a ROC in a red last patch, and a blue for the last few weeks. I have never had a catastrophic failure. Though occasionally the ROC would try to climb into the side wall, after deploying the mining arm I was always able to back out before things got too crazy.
You have to open the rear door from the pilot's chair in order to get out and close it when you return.
junior orchid
May I ask silly question, now that rented prospector cant have Helix head, can I buy ROC i game and rent ship to fit ROC in it and mine like that? Is it ok?
cunning mason
@pallid temple it doesn't buy SLAM. It doesn't even show up on the trade and shipping terminal at grimhex
serene quest
@junior orchid yep, that's what I've been doing. Rent a Cutty and carry my ROC
big enough to back in as well
junior orchid
@serene quest Yay whats cutty btw 😄 also where do I buy ROC? cant seem to find it
serene quest
Cutlass Black
junior orchid
@serene quest Ah ok and am I right that you just take cutlass load it with ROC go on planet and after you find that small ore you can succ with ROC you just land succ and rince and repeat?
serene quest
you spawn the ROC planet side
usually at a mining facility
head there with the rented cutty then drive it in
and yes, you scan, locate, land, disembark, mine, pack it up and repeat
junior orchid
Alright gonna check thanks
blazing oar
looking for any new players who want to mine but dont have the money to pay for the vehicles just yet, come mine for me and you will earn enough for your own roc
frank grove
btw where is ROC bought?
@junior orchid
The ROC is available at New Deal, in Lorville. Not anywhere else sadly.
junior orchid
@frank grove yes already bough, was lucky to at hurston 😄
wet trench
Any trade runs of notability?
nova tinsel
Can you really not take out a ROC in the Hurston system anywhere except in Lorville? (I hate Lorville)
crimson mantle
@wet trench Trade didn't change much from 3.10. Feel free to try https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes, I've updated it for 3.11
@nova tinsel It's only Loreville https://finder.deepspacecrew.com/ShipShops1/62e33393-5d68-4191-aba5-3b81ce4f3bf9 😢
sick hearth
anyone intersted in some mining later? we have lots of ships just need butts ,
paid for time
newbies welcome
crimson mantle
@nova tinsel Oh sorry. No any place with a blue garage can spawn it: most mining outposts, etc.
nova tinsel
@nova tinsel Oh sorry. No any place with a blue garage can spawn it: most mining outposts, etc.
@crimson mantle Yeah but I can't see any mining outpost on any planet in that system :x
So I'm just wondering if I'm blind
crimson mantle
The mining outposts in Husrton and its moons are called HDMS-*
I think they have a spawn platform
nova tinsel
Oh
Last time I flew to HMDS it looked like an NPC base or something, I got turret sshooting at me
nova tinsel
@crimson mantle Im trying to use your trade tools, is there a way to limit trades to the specific station I am at right now?
crimson mantle
If you plan to go somewhere specific you can use https://sc-trade.tools/en-route
Otherwise see what the best trade route is, and get there using /en-route!
nova tinsel
Otherwise see what the best trade route is, and get there using /en-route!
@crimson mantle How does this work? Will the stock at this place refresh with 1.3k per minute?
junior orchid
Why is my ROC doesnt harvest that?
pallid temple
Its a know issue
junior orchid
So basically ROC mining isnt worth it this patch? I mean my ROC bugged in my ship 6 times, and when finally not it wont take any ore
pallid temple
You should've been there for 3.10... ROC mining wasn't worth doing at all
Back then
junior orchid
on 3.10 I was doing mining with rented prospector well now I cant since you cant modify it
upper gulch
is there any good mining with the ROC to be had on Ita?
verbal cargo
Roc mining is very profitable, try Aberdeen and aerial if you have a pembroke suit, daymar is ok
junior orchid
@verbal cargo how do you get past the ship bug
@verbal cargo is there a technique?
upper gulch
where do you get the pem suit?
verbal cargo
Suit should be at lorville tamanny and sons
pallid temple
Its two separate pieces
upper gulch
kk
pallid temple
Helmet is 5k and the rest of the suit is 10k
verbal cargo
Might have to wait for a patch. I don't invest much if any time after an upgrade in the game until they release the first patch to fix some bugs
upper gulch
for searching for the rocks, what am I looking for?
Icons and what type?
do I need to scan?
visual karma
Anyone know if SC trade tools or any of the other cargo sites are updated for 3.11
idle silo
According to this post, SC Trade Tools is updated. @visual karma
https://discordapp.com/channels/82210263440306176/572706150286622720/764113689317212170
crimson mantle
@nova tinsel Correct, the shop's inventory increases by 1300/min
@visual karma I've updated SC Trade Tools for 3.11 already! 🙂
You can always check which patch the data is for on the home page
visual karma
Cool just making sure thank you
crimson mantle
No problem, my pleasure!
hollow sedge
hey guys i havent played since 3.9
any tips for trading? if you could ping me with your response it will be easier for me to find, thank you all!!
digital thorn
@hollow sedge ...don't for a little bit. There is a competition to get a Vanduul helmet that encourages random PvP so trading right now is even riskier than ever.
hollow sedge
@digital thorn what do you recc for money making then? or just for something to do
i own a bunch of ships and have 2mil rn, but i dont wanna just sit on a station all day lol
digital thorn
in 3.10 it was ROC mining, but I don't know if that's still the best money maker
you could ferry people to Benny Henge for some player interaction, or you could just go mining the Aaron Halo.
hollow sedge
both of those names are unfamiliar to me
digital thorn
looks like you get to do some exploring then
rocky flume
Anybody else having issues selling at Grim Hex? I can't see any of my ships for buy or sell (have waste) in the console.
midnight rampart
anyone had issues picking up mineables with the roc? for it broke down to the little crystals, roc wont suck them up at all.
pallid temple
You gotta wait a few seconds
midnight rampart
i did
sat there for 30 seconds with the collector running, not shit happened
broke another rock
did the same
not shit
frank grove
How is this collection force thing supposed to work?
Can anyone give me a ELI5, or a video to watch?
pallid temple
Its a known issue that it'll stall
frank grove
Okay but, what is it? I see a bar and a graph, but what do they mean?
valid holly
Anybody know where to sell slam?
serene quest
anyone been ROC mining? How's the yield after patch?
frozen hare
Anybody know where to sell slam?
@valid holly
valid holly
Everything I have found seems to point to there isn't anywhere right now. unless someone else knows better.
serene quest
check SC tools, should have a location for you
what's the deal with Benny Henge anyway?
pallid temple
If you go there, you get a helmet
ornate rock
@serene quest helmet on the left
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/media/k2jkfbvj5xhrir/source/Banner-1.jpeg
serene quest
Dope
I’ll try to get that done today and NOT get shot outa the sky lol
Any word on the ROC? How’s mining now, in terms of return.
fickle zephyr
not ROC but its ok
serene quest
Not a bad yield
@fickle zephyr whered you go lookin?
junior orchid
@serene quest tried ROC 7 times today everytime ROC get stucked inside ship on something like that so yea
@fickle zephyr lucky you have your own prospector, since you can put helix on rented one anymore, this killed mining for me quite a bit
cant*
dawn acorn
anyone got a good route for cargo with the freelancer?
blazing oar
yeah so
owning multiple rocs, to get people to mine for you
doesnt work
the moment a second roc is spawned, the first one starts glitching, and the rocs end up dissapearing 😦
proven token
darn
One of the things I was hoping they would implement was more long term mining operation gameplay you could do with multiple people, setting up shop somewhere and getting a job done vs just flying around aimlessly seems more fun and easier to do logistical things for
fickle zephyr
but but i bought 2 ROC's in new deal
i was thinking that it would be an increase in cargo capacity
frank grove
i was thinking that it would be an increase in cargo capacity
@fickle zephyr
You can now pull cargo out of the ROC into your personal inventory. You should be able to then store that into a Stor-all box and plonk it on your ship for more capacity
frank grove
Basically, you box up the contents of your personal inventory into a physical box like the ones used for delivery missions.
They are just generated from thin air
fickle zephyr
oh cool
frank grove
Idk how well it works right now personally, but it's supposed to be an option
fickle zephyr
infinite amount?
ROC mining with carrack
then i dont need a cutty black either
cutty red never thirsty darling
mystic vigil
how do i do the QT-then-immediately-disengage workaround for rocks not being scannable, now that QT acceleration is instant?
ornate rock
last patch you could also EVA to reload the rocks, but turn off the ship before leaving pilot seat, otherwise the ship might turn unusable
ornate rock
just turn off the ship, exit seat, then EVA out of the ship and back in, that worked for me in 3.10
mystic vigil
aite i'll let you know if it works out
ornate rock
if you do mess up and the ship gets stuck in space, log out in bed
fickle zephyr
cant reverse in with ROC to cutty red, when i re enter the ROC it starts to bounce and gets stuck
mystic vigil
@ornate rock it seems to not be working anymore
fickle zephyr
the ROC does the same thing in cutty black, whats going on?
ok its impossible to ROC mine
fickle zephyr
didnt happen before 3.11
junior orchid
ye its impossible to ROC for now, I got cutty black and same thing happens
elder hazel
Turn the arm on and then quickly off
frank grove
^ That. Arm is pointing itself straight up for some reason. Pressing M to enter mining mode fixes it
vagrant grotto
if anyone needs a minner lmk
hasty zenith
With regards to the ROC's mining arm issue, if it snaps into its glitched position, just enable and disable mining mode to fix the arm, then press P to power down the weapons, which disables the mining arm. When stowing, make sure to leave the ROC powered on with weapons disabled, and hop out. This will prevent the arm from snapping into the glitched position when you hop back into it. Just simply re-enable weapons (P again) after unpacking the ROC from your ship.
spiral thunder
When I’m mining in the roc what do I do when the icons show diamonds and I can’t mine them or pick them up
mossy canyon
Not sure what you mean @spiral thunder ... what is happening when you try to mine?
pallid temple
Its a known issue that it'll stall
spiral thunder
I broke a rock with the laser and a bunch of chunks popped out with a diamond icon on my HUD
I wasnt able to pick them up
pallid temple
It'll take a while for it to actually engage
mossy canyon
The collection beam is very slow.
pallid temple
The servers are being hammered
mossy canyon
Were you able to pickup any of them? @spiral thunder
spiral thunder
No
mossy canyon
You can try slightly tapping W as you collect. I find it helps, but it is very slow going.
mossy meteor
I really want to get into mining, What would you guys recommend? Go straight for the prospector, Or get the ROC greycat?
junior orchid
@mossy meteor ROC is super buggy I would recommend to you saving up for prospector with better mining head
mossy meteor
Any mining head you would recommend? @junior orchid
junior orchid
@mossy meteor Go for Helix its expensive but best one, you wont have any problem mining Quanta
turbid bay
Any ROC owners, know why the collection laser is basically non-responsive?
hollow sedge
Might be the best trade route for the avenger titan.
serene quest
@turbid bay seems to be a 3.11 issue. I’ve had no problems ROC mining since before then.
hollow sedge
I did the math, and with my current money I can make 140000 in a day.
serene quest
Collection beam does take a moment. But it shouldn’t be more than about 5 seconds
serene quest
@hollow sedge you mining at all?
hollow sedge
I have to buy a mining vehicle first.
serene quest
You can rent one
hollow sedge
Wh-
serene quest
It’s 41k a day for a prospector I believe
hollow sedge
What about the ROC?
serene quest
Should be able to clear roughly 40-80k an hour
ROC you’ll buy eventually
Not able to be rent
hollow sedge
I don’t have the money to rent the prospector.
serene quest
Shouldn’t* be too difficult
hollow sedge
I only have 40k
serene quest
A few delivery missions
serene quest
Make sure you do the pick up 3 and deliver to one location
Yea
And try to make sure they’re the same location if available or on the same planet
hollow sedge
Is that a glitch?
serene quest
No
hollow sedge
Poor choice of words.
serene quest
In any case when you have enough to rent, just focus on Agrecium and Laranite deposits on rocks that are about 5k or less.
Until you can afford your roc
Should be able to get one in no time
mossy meteor
Can you even buy the roc ingame?
mossy meteor
Oh cool where? haha and how much
serene quest
@hollow sedge oh it looks like you can rent a roc
Not sure off the top of my head @mossy meteor maybe Loreville or Babbage
mossy meteor
Imma check it out thanks!
serene quest
@hollow sedge if that’s the case I’d recommend renting a rock and a cutty
mossy meteor
Were talking about the ROC greycat right? And not the prospector?
serene quest
Yea
serene quest
Believe the price is about 170k to buy and like 3500 to rent , for the ROC
hollow sedge
Is it like a irl day..
hollow sedge
Might rent the roc so I can buy one lmao.
serene quest
Gonna be tough getting around
hollow sedge
Stonks.
hollow sedge
What about platinum bay?
hollow sedge
Pretty sure there are platinum bay platforms at mining bases so you can spawn ground vehicles.
serene quest
Oh you meant that?
hollow sedge
Yeah.
serene quest
Any mining facility will have a terminal
It’ll be the building with a blue light
Can spawn them there
But I’m sure you have to rent them first
You can’t rent directly from those terminals
hollow sedge
It’s great because it would be ridiculous to buy a whole vehicle just to transport the thing.
serene quest
Yea lol
Also if you haven’t read already there’s issues with transporting the ROC
if you have them, make sure you toggle the mining laser when in ship, then power down
Also if your ROC flips apparently you just get back in and power down
hollow sedge
Where do I go to rent it?
serene quest
It’ll right itself