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pallid temple Aug 12, 2020, 2:05 PM

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....

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Its called information and its useful

turbid plinth Aug 12, 2020, 2:05 PM

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i know

silent ivy Aug 12, 2020, 5:01 PM

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thats not even accurate, ive seen dolivine on daymar..

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im not crazy!

pallid temple Aug 12, 2020, 5:02 PM

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......

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Data mining was used to create this chart

ivory bluff Aug 12, 2020, 5:14 PM

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yup, dolivine is all over daymar. have never seen aphorite tho

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oh yea, and IIRC ita and aberdeen had dolivine too. maybe it's dolivine/aphorite that's mixed up in this picture

silent ivy Aug 12, 2020, 5:23 PM

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yea, data mine all day, someone made an oopsy and flipped a thing

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very cool visual aide though

warm river Aug 12, 2020, 6:14 PM

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iv'e only seen hadanite and dolivine on daymar

delicate phoenix Aug 12, 2020, 6:30 PM

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In caves I've gotten all three gems on Daymar

frosty copper Aug 12, 2020, 11:11 PM

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Can mining materials be sold at HURs

crimson mantle Aug 12, 2020, 11:47 PM

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@frosty copper Yes they can! (Hand/ROC minables at least)
You can check https://sc-trade.tools/best-buyer to see where to sell stuff.

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sharp urchin Aug 13, 2020, 1:27 AM

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Anyone have issues on the Mole where you hoover up a bunch of Quantanium with friends, you have the alarm blaring, but then when at the refinery it says you have 0% Quantanium?

proven token Aug 13, 2020, 3:10 AM

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yes

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it has happened to a lot of people , minerals just disapear that you mined.

timid mango Aug 13, 2020, 7:00 AM

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whats good tradin right now, titanium?

turbid plinth Aug 13, 2020, 8:13 AM

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Or diamond

lethal kayak Aug 13, 2020, 8:27 AM

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If you have a moderate sized hauler consider yourself a trash-can. Whatever you get at an outpost (or two) from highest value descending.
Pro-tip: scouting ahead can show you if it's even worth attempting at the given time.

hazy flume Aug 13, 2020, 8:38 AM

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@gaunt flare I read a message you posted asking if you can get an after-market mining head on a rented prospector. Someone said no, but that's actually untrue. You can add any mining head you want as far as I'm concerned. You just end up losing the head once your rental runs out. I know this because I have tried it myself and it worked.

silent ivy Aug 13, 2020, 9:46 AM

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just remove the mining head before the timer runs out @hazy flume, when the rental ends youll still have it available for next time, no?

whole fable Aug 13, 2020, 11:06 AM

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i have a question for you guys

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if ya'll needed help crewing your miniing ships, would you split the earnings with the help

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is there even a function for that in game

pallid temple Aug 13, 2020, 11:08 AM

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There is

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You can send aUEC to other players now easily

whole fable Aug 13, 2020, 12:33 PM

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pretty cool

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do u guys pay for escorts

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like player fighter escorts and stuff like that

pallid temple Aug 13, 2020, 12:33 PM

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Some do

crimson mantle Aug 13, 2020, 12:37 PM

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@timid mango https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes

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timid mango Aug 13, 2020, 12:39 PM

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i just pick the shortest fastest one i can find cause itll probably crash or 30k lmao

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i did save this though thanks

crimson mantle Aug 13, 2020, 12:40 PM

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then you can either:

select profit by distance
whitelist only a planet (ex: Stanton > Crusader) and pick pure profit
it'll show you only the most profitable trades around crusader and its moons

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My pleasure

timid mango Aug 13, 2020, 12:40 PM

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i was doing daymar-PO cause its real quick

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but lately it had been empty alot

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and then someone gave me 400k which made the past few weeks pointless lmao

primal moon Aug 13, 2020, 1:43 PM

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How do you buy a mining head for a prospector? I am at port olistar, browsing the terminal selecting the one i want but the button is grayed out altough i have the money for it?

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Nvm, switching servers did it apparently

neat sparrow Aug 13, 2020, 3:26 PM

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Hello, noob questions: How can I tell how full my ROC is or what materials I have in my cargo hold? (Is there a MFD with this info?) and Does the ROC collect inert material along with gems?

pallid temple Aug 13, 2020, 3:26 PM

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@neat sparrow Have you done FPS mining prior to using the ROC?

neat sparrow Aug 13, 2020, 3:26 PM

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yes

pallid temple Aug 13, 2020, 3:26 PM

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ROC mining is basically FPS mining but on steroids

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You only collect the gems

glacial dagger Aug 13, 2020, 3:27 PM

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Any way of buying the ROC in game yet, or is it still store only?

pallid temple Aug 13, 2020, 3:27 PM

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Its store only

glacial dagger Aug 13, 2020, 3:27 PM

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Dang

neat sparrow Aug 13, 2020, 3:28 PM

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I saw a message on the top right of the HUD saying collecting inert material, but wasnt sure since I cant find a way to tell whats in the hold or what gems I have

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And the server 30k before I could find a place to sell

pallid temple Aug 13, 2020, 3:28 PM

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No you're not collecting inert material

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That what's in the rock, you use the tractor beam to collect the gems that came from the rock you cracked

neat sparrow Aug 13, 2020, 3:29 PM

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ok, pretty much FPS on wheels with a tractor beam

pallid temple Aug 13, 2020, 3:29 PM

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Effectively yes

neat sparrow Aug 13, 2020, 3:29 PM

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And do I mine until it says cargo full? Or can I look at inventory just the same?

pallid temple Aug 13, 2020, 3:29 PM

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You mine until the cargo's full

neat sparrow Aug 13, 2020, 3:30 PM

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Thanks doc

hollow sedge Aug 13, 2020, 6:05 PM

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anyone lose all the money they earn from mining?

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not all money, but what you earn

golden stone Aug 13, 2020, 6:26 PM

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Is there a guide on the best starter way to mine? I have like 20k to spend, I have the Aurua pack also if that makes a difference

willow crescent Aug 13, 2020, 6:27 PM

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by hand

golden stone Aug 13, 2020, 6:28 PM

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I've tried by hand, I have a crime stat so I cant find contracts to lead me to a cave lol

willow crescent Aug 13, 2020, 7:46 PM

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kudre ore on daymar (the closed one)

crimson mantle Aug 13, 2020, 8:21 PM

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That's right, "closed" mines are actually caves.

sick hearth Aug 13, 2020, 8:38 PM

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U should try and get in on group mining missions

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Get a seat in a mole

sonic laurel Aug 13, 2020, 8:48 PM

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is there a trick to finding surface deposits for hand mining? the scanner on my aurora never detects anything.

pallid temple Aug 13, 2020, 8:49 PM

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Surface deposits for FPS mining are extremely rare outside of caves

sonic laurel Aug 13, 2020, 8:51 PM

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I vaguely remember a guide to a big one of hadanite but I could never figure it out

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caves are just creepy and easy to get lost in

sonic laurel Aug 13, 2020, 9:27 PM

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so the prospector is the single crew mining ship. If my goal is FPS mining is there another ship that works better for that kind of focus?

pallid temple Aug 13, 2020, 9:29 PM

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Yes, the Greycat ROC @sonic laurel

sonic laurel Aug 13, 2020, 9:29 PM

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I wonder what ships will hold that in their cargo holds

pallid temple Aug 13, 2020, 9:30 PM

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For reference this is the Greycat ROC

📎 ScreenShot0034.jpg

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It'll fit in most ships that have a ramp and a cargo bay

sonic laurel Aug 13, 2020, 9:30 PM

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right now I rock an aurora

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so maybe a cutlass?

pallid temple Aug 13, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Yes

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It'll fit in a Cutlass Black comfortably

lucid ridge Aug 13, 2020, 10:38 PM

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Some guy told me there was a trick to keep your cargo after a 30k server crash

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But i cannot find any solution to it

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Any ideas?

steady lion Aug 13, 2020, 10:40 PM

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How is prospector mining

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Thinking about buying another prospector

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I originally upgraded to a BMM but box missions and trade is now screwed sooooo

golden stone Aug 13, 2020, 10:43 PM

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Where can you find the prospector to rent? And is it worth saving up to rent it so I can go mining

steady lion Aug 13, 2020, 10:44 PM

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There's one in Loreville

Its a real PIA without a helix laser

golden stone Aug 13, 2020, 10:44 PM

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So worth getting that ship before mining? Continue doing my merc contracts ect

steady lion Aug 13, 2020, 10:45 PM

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I've never been able to keep a ship after reset so if I'm going to get it. 140$

sonic laurel Aug 13, 2020, 11:29 PM

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can't seem to find the ROC for aUEC anywhere

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buy or rental

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is it just not available yet in game?

pallid temple Aug 13, 2020, 11:33 PM

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No

sonic laurel Aug 13, 2020, 11:34 PM

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thanks for the info

crimson mantle Aug 13, 2020, 11:57 PM

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just bide your time, it'll probably be like 50k aUEC once we can get it in-game

prisma frost Aug 14, 2020, 12:02 AM

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How do you sell the ore in your ROC?

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It's not showing up on the terminal at PO

sonic laurel Aug 14, 2020, 12:02 AM

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same way you sell hand mined ore

crimson mantle Aug 14, 2020, 12:03 AM

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don't sell at the mineral terminal at PO, use the regular console

prisma frost Aug 14, 2020, 12:03 AM

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Oh i see it now

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The other terminal at the desk

crimson mantle Aug 14, 2020, 12:03 AM

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a lot of places buy the stuff though, most likely don't need to go all the way back to PO
https://sc-trade.tools/best-buyer

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prisma frost Aug 14, 2020, 12:03 AM

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Wow not bad at all

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117,553aUEC for 60% cargo capacity

sonic laurel Aug 14, 2020, 12:04 AM

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so is it true that all ships can scan for ore now? so I can take my aurora looking for surface places to FPS mine?

crimson mantle Aug 14, 2020, 12:04 AM

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They will show up as diamond icons, but yes

sonic laurel Aug 14, 2020, 12:05 AM

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someone said if you scan at a cave entrance it will highlight the mineable ore pretty deep into the cave

crimson mantle Aug 14, 2020, 12:05 AM

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to hand mine, go to a cave though
you'll most likely get a ROC minable on the surface, which is very challenging to mine with the hand tool

sonic laurel Aug 14, 2020, 12:06 AM

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very challenging you say? Then it will be like the dark souls of fps mining.

gaunt flare Aug 14, 2020, 12:26 AM

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Well, it seems you can fit two ROC inside the Cutlass 😄

📎 Cut2Grey.png

proven token Aug 14, 2020, 12:54 AM

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Why wont the ROC stop slowly sliding

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on the planet surface is my question

sleek oyster Aug 14, 2020, 12:56 AM

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Not sure. You can kill power to drivetrain to make it stop as a work around

proven token Aug 14, 2020, 1:04 AM

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Thanks

sonic laurel Aug 14, 2020, 1:28 AM

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possibly the high winds

naive maple Aug 14, 2020, 2:06 AM

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can you buy 66 SCU of Agricium or Laranite anywhere in the verse?... If not, whats the most you can buy?... and where?

crimson mantle Aug 14, 2020, 3:20 AM

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@naive maple it's hard to say now, with the dynamic and shared-across-servers shop stocks.

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But https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes has the static game files data, so you can at least see where can possibly have that stock.

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naive maple Aug 14, 2020, 3:53 AM

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@crimson mantle Thanks!

white vale Aug 14, 2020, 4:19 AM

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Prospector or Roc after the .1 patch?

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Torn between the roc bundle or a prospector for 150

silent ivy Aug 14, 2020, 4:25 AM

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they both make good money

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what other ship(s) do you have?

white vale Aug 14, 2020, 4:26 AM

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Taurus (for the cheap andromeda) and that’s it

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I upgraded my cutlass to that

silent ivy Aug 14, 2020, 4:26 AM

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well, you can fit the roc in a connie too?

white vale Aug 14, 2020, 4:27 AM

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Oh yea definitely

silent ivy Aug 14, 2020, 4:27 AM

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i still prefer prospector mining, i dont like driving around hunting for ore or having to play musical chairs to ferry around the ROC

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but its nice if you want to save some $ and still have a good way to make uec

white vale Aug 14, 2020, 4:28 AM

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That’s what I was thinking.. my experiences loading vehicles have been sort of rough in the Connie and cutlass

silent ivy Aug 14, 2020, 4:28 AM

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just remember to turn off the engine once you park in your ship

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this goes for any ground vehicle

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it plays nicer if you just power it down before takeoff

white vale Aug 14, 2020, 4:28 AM

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Ooo

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I just want a good money maker to fund other toys

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I can do ok in the Connie doing bounties but it’s not as zen as mining

silent ivy Aug 14, 2020, 4:29 AM

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agreed

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connie in particular imo

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agile as a whale

white vale Aug 14, 2020, 4:29 AM

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Yea, it’s like piloting 4 cannons strapped to a refrigerator on wheels

silent ivy Aug 14, 2020, 4:29 AM

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lol

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oversteer is frustrating on that thing

white vale Aug 14, 2020, 4:30 AM

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It does great as long as I kill everything before they fly by me

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It’s my fun with friends ship though

silent ivy Aug 14, 2020, 4:32 AM

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you might be better served with a freelancer

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i mean, the single turret gunner position on it sucks

white vale Aug 14, 2020, 4:32 AM

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Everyone says that but I really hate that ship

silent ivy Aug 14, 2020, 4:32 AM

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but it can just fit a ROC or two

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ha ha

white vale Aug 14, 2020, 4:32 AM

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I know it’s good but I just hate how it looks and drives

silent ivy Aug 14, 2020, 4:32 AM

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fair enough

thick crown Aug 14, 2020, 7:06 AM

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So, I went mining for the first time ever. Took the freelancer, flew around the moons on crusader and found some gems. But my hand laser was not stonks enough to break the gem rocks, not even with a friend. What, how, where, why should I mine? 😄

silver dove Aug 14, 2020, 8:45 AM

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do you know were is the best place for quantanium?

blissful rain Aug 14, 2020, 10:39 AM

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Well, it seems you can fit two ROC inside the Cutlass 😄
@gaunt flare o nice

pallid temple Aug 14, 2020, 10:40 AM

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You can fit 3 ROCs in a Cutlass Black

blissful rain Aug 14, 2020, 10:40 AM

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3?

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lol

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come on now

pallid temple Aug 14, 2020, 10:40 AM

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Yes

blissful rain Aug 14, 2020, 10:40 AM

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i see 2 there max

pallid temple Aug 14, 2020, 10:40 AM

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No you can fit 3

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You underestimate the size of the cargo bay

blissful rain Aug 14, 2020, 10:43 AM

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pic

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?

gaunt flare Aug 14, 2020, 10:45 AM

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My guess would be 2 in a row, then one near back door

pallid temple Aug 14, 2020, 10:45 AM

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You steer one ROC to the left, one to the right and then you reverse in the last ROC

gaunt flare Aug 14, 2020, 10:46 AM

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R R
R

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like that ?

pallid temple Aug 14, 2020, 10:46 AM

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Basically

azure ginkgo Aug 14, 2020, 11:49 AM

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Is there a guide to mining with the ROC? I'm just getting into mining and I don't know any of the tricks or keybinds

pallid temple Aug 14, 2020, 11:49 AM

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The thing is with the ROC, its marketed towards people who already do mining

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But its basically you fly down to a moon, enter scanning mode and do scan pings with the right mouse button and then look for diamond icons

azure ginkgo Aug 14, 2020, 11:52 AM

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I've found some stuff to mine, but after pressing M, Mouse 1 does not fire the mining laser

pallid temple Aug 14, 2020, 11:53 AM

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Are you in an armistice zone? I'm guessing not but I just want to make sure

azure ginkgo Aug 14, 2020, 11:53 AM

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THATS IT

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Thank you so much

pallid temple Aug 14, 2020, 11:53 AM

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Are you in the PU or the PTU?

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Because the ROC's broken in the PU but its been fixed in the PTU

azure ginkgo Aug 14, 2020, 11:54 AM

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PU

pallid temple Aug 14, 2020, 11:55 AM

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Yeah the ROC's broken in the PU, the tractor beam causes about 90% of the gems to vanish

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So they're not counted towards the cargo

azure ginkgo Aug 14, 2020, 11:55 AM

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Ahh, thanks for the info

pallid temple Aug 14, 2020, 11:56 AM

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3.10.1, which has the fix for the ROC should go live pretty soon

primal moon Aug 14, 2020, 12:29 PM

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suggestion on a bunch of good shield generators, not costing over 50k?

crimson mantle Aug 14, 2020, 12:41 PM

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Depends on your ship
https://www.erkul.games/shields

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turbid plinth Aug 14, 2020, 12:57 PM

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@pallid temple @blissful rain you can fit 4

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if you make them climb each other

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XD

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a long of dangly limbs you can tetris

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but yea i wouldnt do more than 1

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the roc is hella fragile. ive had them shake apart in the cutlass's cargo bay

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cargo would be all gone

pallid temple Aug 14, 2020, 12:58 PM

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The ROC isn't that bad

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Its surprisingly tough

turbid plinth Aug 14, 2020, 12:59 PM

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mine just fell to pieces

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after a rough landing

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fell to pieces inside the ship

lethal kayak Aug 14, 2020, 12:59 PM

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In the ROC's defense... u do stratospheric drops

turbid plinth Aug 14, 2020, 12:59 PM

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random

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true

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zzzzzzzoom

white vale Aug 14, 2020, 1:08 PM

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So, can I upgrade the warbond roc to the prospector to give it LTI?

pallid temple Aug 14, 2020, 1:09 PM

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You can do

blissful rain Aug 14, 2020, 1:45 PM

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@pallid temple @blissful rain you can fit 4
@turbid plinth lies

pallid temple Aug 14, 2020, 1:46 PM

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Yeah you're not fitting 4 ROCs in a Cutlass Black

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You can fit 3 but its physically impossible to fit 4

wild canyon Aug 14, 2020, 1:57 PM

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might do the titan to cutlass+roc upgrade

pallid temple Aug 14, 2020, 2:01 PM

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Its a good one

wild canyon Aug 14, 2020, 2:04 PM

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id lose the flight week titan livery but 🤷

wild canyon Aug 14, 2020, 2:54 PM

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huh looks like you cant upgrade to the package?

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guess melt and ccu

crimson mantle Aug 14, 2020, 2:55 PM

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make sure you still have a game package!

wild canyon Aug 14, 2020, 2:55 PM

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got the avenger titan package during flight week

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with game + livery, in looking up the upgrade options tho, none of the packs are listed, bird of prey etc

crimson mantle Aug 14, 2020, 2:56 PM

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I'm just saying, if you melt/buy stuff, make sure you're left with a game package at the end of it all.

wild canyon Aug 14, 2020, 2:56 PM

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true true

sonic laurel Aug 14, 2020, 3:19 PM

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I feel like a cutty with 2 ROC is the perfect two player setup

pallid temple Aug 14, 2020, 3:21 PM

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Yep

blissful rain Aug 14, 2020, 3:23 PM

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yea

sonic laurel Aug 14, 2020, 3:23 PM

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I wonder if I can melt my aurora as credit to a cutlass

blissful rain Aug 14, 2020, 3:23 PM

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and he turret on the cutty fucking rippes ships to shreads

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and its agile

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fucking love the cutty black

sonic laurel Aug 14, 2020, 3:24 PM

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I'm loathe to give them any more money though...

blissful rain Aug 14, 2020, 3:24 PM

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do it

sonic laurel Aug 14, 2020, 3:24 PM

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depends on how much it costs

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if it 15$ or 20$ then I probably will

blissful rain Aug 14, 2020, 3:24 PM

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cool

sonic laurel Aug 14, 2020, 3:25 PM

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I have no clue how to even find out lol

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that's $75

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hard nope

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aUEC life for me

pallid temple Aug 14, 2020, 3:32 PM

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The Cutlass Black is 1,385,300 aUEC and costs 27,706 aUEC to rent @sonic laurel

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6hours with the ROC and you'll have a Cutlass Black with aUEC

sonic laurel Aug 14, 2020, 3:36 PM

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nice. doesn't the cutty cargo bay have openable side doors?

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because if they do. then fitting 3 ROCs with people in them. one at each door. could make the cutty into a jury-rigged mole

pallid temple Aug 14, 2020, 3:38 PM

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Yes

sonic laurel Aug 14, 2020, 3:39 PM

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cutty really is the MVP of this game

pallid temple Aug 14, 2020, 3:40 PM

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Yeup

lethal kayak Aug 14, 2020, 3:44 PM

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6hours with the ROC and you'll have a Cutlass Black with aUEC
@pallid temple They are not leaving massive deposits of hadanite as it is now... that's like leaving 50% 5000 mass quantanium chunks and going.. yes.. seems legit. Considering how stingy they are with money... the profit will be nerfed and put into their estimated levels

paper coyote Aug 14, 2020, 4:25 PM

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hey so trading is fucked in 3.10 but is mining ok ?

crimson mantle Aug 14, 2020, 4:26 PM

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consensus seems to be wait till 3.10.1 for both

paper coyote Aug 14, 2020, 4:26 PM

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dam ok

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is the Roc available in game ?

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for aUEC

crimson mantle Aug 14, 2020, 4:27 PM

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no, cash only

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wait a bit, it's bound to arrive 🙂

paper coyote Aug 14, 2020, 4:27 PM

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cool thanks @crimson mantle

crimson mantle Aug 14, 2020, 4:28 PM

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np

white vale Aug 14, 2020, 4:36 PM

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Whats this thing on the back of my prospector?

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The hatch and thing that comes down

pallid temple Aug 14, 2020, 4:38 PM

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It's for ejecting ores

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Currently we can only eject volatile cargo

white vale Aug 14, 2020, 4:39 PM

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gotcha, thanks

hollow sedge Aug 14, 2020, 6:03 PM

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hey does anyone know if you can buy the Argo Mole with AUE and if so where

pallid temple Aug 14, 2020, 6:18 PM

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@hollow sedge The Argo MOLE can be purchased for 5.1million aUEC from the New Deal shipyard in Lorville

dreamy chasm Aug 14, 2020, 6:50 PM

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How would one go about ejecting volatile cargo?

naive maple Aug 14, 2020, 6:55 PM

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The Prospector routinely overheats in atmospheric flight without even hitting the Afterburner (shift key). So, I went onto DPS Calculator to see if there was room for upgrade of components to try to address the overheating. But, the cooler is second best and the Powerplant generates over 210% what is needed (even with a Helix I mounted)...

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Has anyone swapped up the Cooler and Powerplant to see if improves/reduces overheating? Any Suggestions?

ornate rock Aug 14, 2020, 6:57 PM

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coolers have little to no effect on overheating. if you are nitpicky the statement is wrong, but except under very specific circumstances coolers don't matter, especially less so with thruster overheats.

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I've not flown the prospector myself since 3.10, but I suspect the issue is that it's the mav thrusters on the bottom overheating while they have to counteract gravity. this can happen both in flight and especially when stationary/hovering.

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the best way to counteract that would be to use vtol and point the main thrusters down, those are made to provide continuous lift

naive maple Aug 14, 2020, 7:00 PM

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So, basically, the engines on the Prospector are too weak to fly the Prospector?... I always use VTOL in atmo already... hmmm

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what a mess

ornate rock Aug 14, 2020, 7:02 PM

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the mav thrusters aren't designed to deal with gravity, at least not if they're at 100% all the time (ships like the gladius that also generate lift don't need that much mav thruster correcting to keep flying a straight path)

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they are still tweaking the flight model, and have already improved the prospectors performance while 3.10 was still in the PTU.
I assume it's a bit harder to strike a good balance on vtol craft, especially since vtol was of limited use on the prospectors before 3.10 (I barely ever used it myself).

lucid ridge Aug 14, 2020, 7:36 PM

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Flying the prospector on clio is horrible

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i never ran out of feul except there

ornate rock Aug 14, 2020, 7:39 PM

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I can also imagine that they want to phase out the prospector as a planetary mining vehicle, or at least that you have to change how you go about it

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I used to hover in front of the rocks on moons, I think touching down while mining might be a lot more efficient now

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but as I said, haven't had a chance to play around with the prospector in 3.10

sonic laurel Aug 14, 2020, 8:13 PM

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is the rucksack core still the best mining armor?

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I'm concerned because it seems to offer no extra temperature protection

ornate rock Aug 14, 2020, 8:16 PM

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those new undersuit armor combos offer more space I think, novikov and... the other one

pallid temple Aug 14, 2020, 8:16 PM

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I'll have to check those

sonic laurel Aug 14, 2020, 8:16 PM

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I only have 11k credits for now

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I just wanted to see for fps mining on daymar

ornate rock Aug 14, 2020, 8:17 PM

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isn't the rucksack good for up to 60 degrees?

pallid temple Aug 14, 2020, 8:17 PM

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Yes

ornate rock Aug 14, 2020, 8:17 PM

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that's enough on daymar, caves are also colder I think

pallid temple Aug 14, 2020, 8:17 PM

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60 degrees heat that is

ornate rock Aug 14, 2020, 8:18 PM

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it's not like you die right away, you usually have over an hour until you have to go back to your ship

sonic laurel Aug 14, 2020, 8:18 PM

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my undersuit does 70 and my arms and legs do 86 I think

ornate rock Aug 14, 2020, 8:19 PM

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shouldn't be an issue

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I am not sure how temperature values combine though

sonic laurel Aug 14, 2020, 8:19 PM

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me either lol

ornate rock Aug 14, 2020, 8:20 PM

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but ye, I've been on daymar a few times without any special temp gear, it's really not a big issue

pallid temple Aug 14, 2020, 8:21 PM

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I think the environment protection suits had their storage capacities zero'd out at some point in the PTU

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I'll check once this .1d patch is installed

sonic laurel Aug 14, 2020, 8:21 PM

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my only issue now is how hideous that color on the rucksack looks

ornate rock Aug 14, 2020, 8:22 PM

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combine it with pink legs, blue arms and a green helmet

pallid temple Aug 14, 2020, 8:38 PM

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Yeah so the Novikok and Pembroke suits still don't have storage capacity

sonic laurel Aug 14, 2020, 9:06 PM

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oof

sonic laurel Aug 15, 2020, 3:20 AM

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cutty black acquired

silent ivy Aug 15, 2020, 3:46 AM

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they're gonna be so nice when they do @pallid temple

potent rock Aug 15, 2020, 11:59 AM

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what is the most profitable ore you can mine with an ROC

pallid temple Aug 15, 2020, 11:59 AM

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@potent rock Its Hadanite gems

ornate rock Aug 15, 2020, 12:00 PM

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you can also mine the salty tears of everyone who doesn't own a ROC

potent rock Aug 15, 2020, 12:01 PM

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then what is the most expensie ore\mineral per unit that is sold by traders

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i need to place 1 unit of that inside my roc

ornate rock Aug 15, 2020, 12:02 PM

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you are aware that abusing exploits is against the ToS and can get your account banned, right?

potent rock Aug 15, 2020, 12:03 PM

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who said anything about exploits

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i'm just asking a question

ornate rock Aug 15, 2020, 12:03 PM

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and I'm just giving you information pawsEh

hollow sedge Aug 15, 2020, 12:22 PM

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So I am currently doing titanium runs from Arial to Hurston in my Freelancer to make some money. Is there anyway to get some money faster?

inner totem Aug 15, 2020, 12:39 PM

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updated ore averages for anyone that's interested, only 50 additional sample counts but it shifted a few things since my last post about this. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/737690804608565328/744171666648858664/unknown.png

idle silo Aug 15, 2020, 2:36 PM

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Are there any upgraded mining heads for the ROC?

pallid temple Aug 15, 2020, 2:37 PM

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No

idle silo Aug 15, 2020, 2:38 PM

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Thx 🙂

sonic laurel Aug 15, 2020, 5:08 PM

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is there a bug with ROC inventory?

proven token Aug 15, 2020, 5:31 PM

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yes

paper coyote Aug 15, 2020, 5:38 PM

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sooo i hit and asteroid with my rented prospector and the mining head broke off is it fucked now? or can i fix it???

pallid temple Aug 15, 2020, 5:49 PM

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@sonic laurel In 3.10.0 yes

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But the issue with the ROC's tractor beam has been fixed in 3.10.1

silent ivy Aug 15, 2020, 6:03 PM

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@paper coyote take it to port and pay for repairs

paper coyote Aug 15, 2020, 6:04 PM

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ok thanks ill give that a go

obtuse sundial Aug 15, 2020, 7:01 PM

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Anyone flying a Max these days?

paper coyote Aug 15, 2020, 7:19 PM

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if i had one i would

obtuse sundial Aug 15, 2020, 7:43 PM

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I was just wondering what an average profit in one was

silent ivy Aug 15, 2020, 8:05 PM

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tree fiddy

mental fulcrum Aug 15, 2020, 8:14 PM

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so does the ROC not work right now?

pallid temple Aug 15, 2020, 8:15 PM

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It works in 3.10.1

obtuse sundial Aug 15, 2020, 8:15 PM

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It works fine most of the time. Currently though, I can't move the mouse to aim the cursor

pallid temple Aug 15, 2020, 8:15 PM

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But not in 3.10.0

obtuse sundial Aug 15, 2020, 8:15 PM

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I'm gonna guess that's what they fixed in 3.10.1?

pallid temple Aug 15, 2020, 8:15 PM

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It is

obtuse sundial Aug 15, 2020, 8:16 PM

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any work around atm?

pallid temple Aug 15, 2020, 8:16 PM

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Get out and pick up the gems manually

mental fulcrum Aug 15, 2020, 8:16 PM

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it also doesn't seem to have like a functioning cargo capacity?

pallid temple Aug 15, 2020, 8:16 PM

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It does

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But the tractor beam causes 90% of gems it collects to vanish

obtuse sundial Aug 15, 2020, 8:16 PM

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I need to break the rock yet

pallid temple Aug 15, 2020, 8:16 PM

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So they aren't counted towards the cargo capacity

mental fulcrum Aug 15, 2020, 8:16 PM

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ah I see

obtuse sundial Aug 15, 2020, 8:16 PM

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Oh, didn't know that. Explains why my cargo is increasing so slowly

mental fulcrum Aug 15, 2020, 8:17 PM

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so just pick them up by hand until the fix is in

pallid temple Aug 15, 2020, 8:17 PM

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Basically

mental fulcrum Aug 15, 2020, 8:17 PM

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do we still only have the 1 backpack chest piece?

pallid temple Aug 15, 2020, 8:17 PM

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Yes

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And that now has room for 50 items compared to previous PTU patches

mental fulcrum Aug 15, 2020, 8:18 PM

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so in theory how much does a backpack full of hadanite sell for?

pallid temple Aug 15, 2020, 8:19 PM

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As in a Macflex Core Rucksack? You're looking at 13,750 aUEC for a MacFlex Core Rucksack that's full

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Compared to a ROC full of Hadanite which gets you 220k

mental fulcrum Aug 15, 2020, 8:20 PM

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OwO - well that is a fair bit better lol

pallid temple Aug 15, 2020, 8:20 PM

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ROC mining is basically FPS mining but on a shit ton of steroids

mental fulcrum Aug 15, 2020, 8:20 PM

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Well hopefully that patch gets deployed soon

pallid temple Aug 15, 2020, 8:20 PM

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It's looking like next week

mental fulcrum Aug 15, 2020, 8:21 PM

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and you can sell the roc inventory from the same console? just needs to be on the pad in the back of a ship?

pallid temple Aug 15, 2020, 8:21 PM

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Yes

sonic laurel Aug 15, 2020, 8:58 PM

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I go out with another player and we just fps mine the ROC minerals

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and then hand pick them up lol

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two tools busts the rocks

cobalt dragon Aug 15, 2020, 10:41 PM

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Anyone know where the stash house on yela is?

glacial dagger Aug 15, 2020, 11:04 PM

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Ok, just found a nice sweet run for medical supplies. pickup from Hickes Research Outpost, Cellin, and drop off at HDMS-Lathan, Arial

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@cobalt dragon if it's a contract mission, it should have a green diamond over it. However, illegal locations don't have a quantum beacon, so you need to quantum to the planet and nearest base, and then fly from there on around the planet

cobalt dragon Aug 15, 2020, 11:06 PM

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@glacial dagger yeah it’s to fly drugs so I didn’t think I’d be able to find it easy. Thanks

glacial dagger Aug 15, 2020, 11:07 PM

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There should be a blue marker over it initially, you just can't quantum directly there

balmy olive Aug 16, 2020, 3:27 AM

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The fucking lag on mining really blows right now

hollow sedge Aug 16, 2020, 3:28 AM

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yeah i just got smack into a rock

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smacked*

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full load of agricium gone

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pretty sad tbh

balmy olive Aug 16, 2020, 4:07 AM

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It sucks when it leads to over charging that would never happen otherwise

hollow sedge Aug 16, 2020, 4:40 AM

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yeap

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lost a lot of bexalite to that

eager tapir Aug 16, 2020, 5:39 AM

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where do you sell slam 3.10?

silent ivy Aug 16, 2020, 7:23 AM

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just shoot it up

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drugs are terrible trade rn imo

quartz laurel Aug 16, 2020, 9:31 AM

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cutty really is the MVP of this game
@sonic laurel I use the MAX with the ROC.

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Upgraded Cutlass black to a MAX 👍

obtuse sundial Aug 16, 2020, 9:50 AM

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I considered doing that @quartz laurel but the Cutty is a better all rounder imo

south thistle Aug 16, 2020, 1:23 PM

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hey guys

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i have a ship full of widow and i cant sell it, anyone have any tips?

sonic laurel Aug 16, 2020, 2:34 PM

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freelancer looks like a turd

karmic escarp Aug 16, 2020, 4:41 PM

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@south thistle do not buy widow, it sells at a glacial pace at grimhex and grimhex only. If you waited to sell all of it you would have made more money dumping your cargo and doing other stuff for that period of time

odd flint Aug 16, 2020, 5:41 PM

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Can multiple ROCs break the large prospector mining rocks?

pallid temple Aug 16, 2020, 5:56 PM

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We believe so

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But its never been tried out yet

odd flint Aug 16, 2020, 6:12 PM

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I have 2 ROCs(long story), when the power comes back on we will try it.

pallid temple Aug 16, 2020, 6:14 PM

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Dude I know someone who bought 3 when I showed them a screenshot of a full ROC at a trading terminal so you're cool

glacial dagger Aug 16, 2020, 6:18 PM

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New route found. Run diamonds from Hickles Research Post, Cellin to Area 18, ArcCorp

rugged salmon Aug 16, 2020, 6:18 PM

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I tried to land on Area18 earlier.. I died.. lol

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The damn controls in the Titan didnt work so i was unable to get landing permission.
Ended up ejecting while singing a song

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(yes, i was out of fuel, which is why i was trying to dock there)

odd flint Aug 16, 2020, 6:21 PM

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You can get landing clearance via mobilglass. Press f11

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Spaceport will show up under friends.

rugged salmon Aug 16, 2020, 6:22 PM

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yeah, i didnt know about that.. was too busy panicing.. lol

odd flint Aug 16, 2020, 6:22 PM

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Often faster than using ship controls.

rugged salmon Aug 16, 2020, 6:22 PM

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But thanks for reminding me, ive forgotten that over the years

chilly laurel Aug 16, 2020, 6:23 PM

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whats a good mining outpost?

south thistle Aug 16, 2020, 7:47 PM

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@karmic escarp thanks man im kind of in the shitter atm loool

kind wasp Aug 16, 2020, 8:21 PM

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Is cargo working properly now? I remember there used to be a bug where you would fill your cargo and pay for it, but not get all of it.

cobalt dragon Aug 16, 2020, 8:40 PM

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Is new Babbage not buying anything?

lucid ridge Aug 16, 2020, 8:46 PM

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how do you guys deal with losing cargo in a 30k i just lost over 1 million had to char reset and lost all my stuff in the process lol

kind wasp Aug 16, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Cry a little bit and stop playing for a few hours

lucid ridge Aug 16, 2020, 8:48 PM

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lol fair enof

karmic escarp Aug 16, 2020, 8:51 PM

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I lost 3.7m to a character reset some days ago, it happens

spiral olive Aug 16, 2020, 9:12 PM

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I was making 20k each run yesterday, and now doing the same run im making 10k

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:/

white vale Aug 16, 2020, 9:56 PM

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Can you squeeze the roc into a MIS

pallid temple Aug 16, 2020, 9:59 PM

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Yes

white vale Aug 16, 2020, 10:14 PM

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Oooo

sonic laurel Aug 16, 2020, 10:15 PM

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it's very tigiht

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shennanigans tight

pallid temple Aug 16, 2020, 10:15 PM

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Like oy vey tight

verbal kraken Aug 16, 2020, 10:18 PM

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Hey every one, can i get some opinions? what do yall things fair to pay people helping on a mole when mining. Ive been doing 30% for me, and 70% (23% for each) of the miners

turbid plinth Aug 16, 2020, 10:20 PM

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Ive seen most in public lfg doing equal split

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They make up for it by only running 3 max

verbal kraken Aug 16, 2020, 10:20 PM

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I did that originaly, but then i realized i was losing 6-10k in fuel costs. When we had a 100k run we each got 25k, then i ended up with 19-15k and they made 25k each leaving me the ship owner walking away feeling its better to solo.

turbid plinth Aug 16, 2020, 10:21 PM

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Not full 4

verbal kraken Aug 16, 2020, 10:22 PM

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do you normaly see them take out fuel costs before splitting?

turbid plinth Aug 16, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Yea

wind summit Aug 16, 2020, 10:32 PM

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Are there places on the surface to hand mine or do you have to find a cave?

pallid temple Aug 16, 2020, 10:37 PM

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You find them in caves

wind summit Aug 16, 2020, 10:51 PM

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Ah thanks! Guess it’s down I go!

glacial dagger Aug 16, 2020, 11:09 PM

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Something I have seen others doing both with hand mining and with ROCs is using one member as the main power unit, and the other as the finer control point. So the ROC would provide the majority of the heat, and a second user would provide the rest at a much finer rate for more reliable mining

proven token Aug 17, 2020, 6:57 AM

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Its not too bad doing ground mining with the ROC

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No rocks are that bad

cobalt dragon Aug 17, 2020, 12:44 PM

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There is absolutely zero point playing the game as a hauler when days and days of work can be lost in the click of a 30k games a fucking joke.

proven token Aug 17, 2020, 12:51 PM

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Yea, it really sucks.

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Just try mining or somthing in the mean time that way you dont lose capital

wind summit Aug 17, 2020, 12:56 PM

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If only you would simply spawn back on your ship when you logged back in, say within 10 mins? Problem would be almost completely solved..

odd flint Aug 17, 2020, 3:15 PM

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The issue is that a 30K is a server crash, so it literally doesn't know where your ship is anymore, since that's not part of persistence currently.

obtuse sundial Aug 17, 2020, 3:15 PM

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Do we have any idea at all what the cargo capacity of the Taurus is going to be?

odd flint Aug 17, 2020, 3:16 PM

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I have been having a lot of success with mining hand-minable with hand laser or ROC. The stuff goes in your inventory which has persistence . So when you log back in, you still have all your goods.

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There's a bug with the collection laser on ROC anyway, so its better to pick up the stuff by hand, and then it persists as an added bonus.

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Constellation Taurus?

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I don't.

ionic needle Aug 17, 2020, 3:34 PM

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whats the closest ground base to microtechs forrest biome? cant find it

blissful rain Aug 17, 2020, 3:42 PM

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The issue is that a 30K is a server crash, so it literally doesn't know where your ship is anymore, since that's not part of persistence currently.
@odd flint

Does the gems in your backpack persists?

dry mica Aug 17, 2020, 4:24 PM

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https://youtu.be/U-NQbn_83A8

YouTube

Madrealm Gaming

My 3.10 Trade Routes | Star Citizen | NEW CHANNEL

In this video I describe my three favorite cargo runs in the current live patch.

Link to Gallog: https://www.gallog.co/trading/

Link to my Organization: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/orgs/DERPS

▶ Play video

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Made a video suggesting some trade routes for 3.10 if anyone has been looking.

odd flint Aug 17, 2020, 5:36 PM

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@odd flint

Does the gems in your backpack persists?
@blissful rain Yes, they do.

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I believe they will persist if you 30K or log out, but I don't think they will persist if you die or suicide.

blissful rain Aug 17, 2020, 5:39 PM

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i see

crimson mantle Aug 17, 2020, 5:56 PM

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@dry mica Nice.
Have you ever looked at https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes as a trading tool?

SC Trade Tools

Optimized Star Citizen trade routes

wind summit Aug 17, 2020, 6:07 PM

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wonder how up to date they are. the issue I see with a lot of these sites are they require users to update prices when/if they change.

crimson mantle Aug 17, 2020, 6:08 PM

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SC Trade Tools is actually my project, that's why I asked :)
It loads the data directly from the game's files, so I update it with every patch.

wind summit Aug 17, 2020, 6:09 PM

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Nice! next time I play I will look at it. I love trading, but its so perilous atm with the 30ks

crimson mantle Aug 17, 2020, 6:09 PM

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Yeah, I think we're all waiting on 3.10.1

rugged salmon Aug 17, 2020, 7:38 PM

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If i just dropped of a delivery package and am supposed to drop another one off at the same base, then the box i just dropped of is in the spot im supposed to drop of the next.. what do i do? I cant drop off the second one 😦

ornate rock Aug 17, 2020, 7:39 PM

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can you pick up the first and throw it in a corner?

rugged salmon Aug 17, 2020, 7:39 PM

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No, its delivered and mission completed

ornate rock Aug 17, 2020, 7:40 PM

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you can't pick it up any more? try punching it if you're not in armistice

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also this sounds like something that should be reported on the IC for sure

rugged salmon Aug 17, 2020, 7:43 PM

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📎 ScreenShot0002.jpg

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😛

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I'll just dump the mission..

mental quiver Aug 17, 2020, 7:48 PM

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did medical supplies get removed entirely from outposts? >.>

sick hearth Aug 17, 2020, 8:35 PM

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where will i drop off the roc for hadanite first ?

pallid temple Aug 17, 2020, 8:38 PM

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As in to sell what you collected?

mossy canyon Aug 17, 2020, 9:49 PM

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Decent solo run with the mole today.

📎 image0.png

smoky olive Aug 17, 2020, 10:03 PM

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@mossy canyon Where did you go to mine?

mossy canyon Aug 17, 2020, 10:13 PM

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i think that run was on calliope.

kind wasp Aug 17, 2020, 10:44 PM

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My buddy and I run a mole and always find decent amounts of quantanium in the asteroid belts. 200k+ every run if you're picky.

turbid plinth Aug 17, 2020, 11:35 PM

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218k selling hadanite from my roc

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YAYYYY it works

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shouldve screenshot

proven token Aug 17, 2020, 11:37 PM

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How long did that take

turbid plinth Aug 17, 2020, 11:37 PM

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hour and a half?

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if you exclude the spawn and loading the cars in, 1 hour

wicked timber Aug 17, 2020, 11:38 PM

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wait was that in the argo mole

turbid plinth Aug 17, 2020, 11:39 PM

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greycat ROC

wicked timber Aug 17, 2020, 11:39 PM

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oh ok

turbid plinth Aug 17, 2020, 11:39 PM

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mining buggy

wicked timber Aug 17, 2020, 11:39 PM

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what do they cost atm

proven token Aug 17, 2020, 11:39 PM

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Wierd that the ROC can produce as much profit as the mole, lol

wicked timber Aug 17, 2020, 11:39 PM

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and do u just carry the roc in any decent sized ship

proven token Aug 17, 2020, 11:40 PM

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Yea like a Cutlaas

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Cutlass

turbid plinth Aug 17, 2020, 11:40 PM

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cutlass would be recommended

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freelancer is a pain to fit. and it might explode from the collision damage

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also its a buggy mess atm, pardon the pun

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finger guns

proven token Aug 17, 2020, 11:41 PM

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One of the main benefits is you dont fight inert materials

turbid plinth Aug 17, 2020, 11:41 PM

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the car likes to completely shutdown and refuse to start

proven token Aug 17, 2020, 11:41 PM

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I wonder once the refinery deck comes in if ore, that is refined, will be worth more

turbid plinth Aug 17, 2020, 11:41 PM

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whenever you get in or out you more or less roll a dice if the car bricks

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so I avoid climbing in and out as much as possible. only embark/disembark from within your vehicle so at least if it bricks the cargo is onboard

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i brought 2 cars for a mega run but one bricked

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and now im stuck in it XDD

wicked timber Aug 18, 2020, 12:03 AM

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cool i have a cutlass black and a carrack

quartz laurel Aug 18, 2020, 12:19 AM

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So the ROC collecter was working great in 3.10.1 but the 3.10.1 that was released doesn't seem to behave the same way..... 🤔

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It doesn't collect as expected.

turbid plinth Aug 18, 2020, 12:19 AM

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works fine for me

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laggy af

quartz laurel Aug 18, 2020, 12:25 AM

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For me it behaves the same as the old 3.10

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The collecting not the cargo.

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In 3.10.1 the collecting had more power and speed

pallid temple Aug 18, 2020, 12:30 AM

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Yeah I've noticed that too

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There's a significant difference between the PTU and the Live build

turbid plinth Aug 18, 2020, 1:16 AM

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prob just the overloaded servers

pallid temple Aug 18, 2020, 1:24 AM

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Probably

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But as long as I ain't losing cargo I ain't got an issue

odd flint Aug 18, 2020, 1:50 AM

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Yeah I made good bank with the collecting laser after update.

silent dome Aug 18, 2020, 4:04 AM

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Mining, Cargo Hauling & Fighting - the perfect package.

📎 ROC_in_MIS_02.jpg

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(If only I could walk in and not have to drive in :P)

odd flint Aug 18, 2020, 4:59 AM

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Have roc and brawl. Will travel.

wind summit Aug 18, 2020, 8:39 AM

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Are some rocks just bugged and not scannable? I went out in a prospector and I couldn’t scan a single rock I found....

proven token Aug 18, 2020, 8:41 AM

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You click tab and hold right click to charge the scan go to the blue boxes that pop up

wind summit Aug 18, 2020, 8:41 AM

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Yeah, I was finding them...

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But I moved closer to identify them and they wouldn’t scan

proven token Aug 18, 2020, 8:41 AM

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Whwn you get closer and can hold left click to scan them or switch to your mining arm to also scan

wind summit Aug 18, 2020, 8:41 AM

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To see what they are

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Ok jay making sure I wasn’t missing something. They missy have been bugged

woeful gazelle Aug 18, 2020, 8:53 AM

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@wind summit to fix unscannable asteroids you can initiate quantum travel and immediately cancel it

rugged salmon Aug 18, 2020, 8:53 AM

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So, is the ROC worth it?

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I see you get 100k+ in a hour with it.. i mean.. wiah, how?!

woeful gazelle Aug 18, 2020, 9:01 AM

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I don't have one but if I'm informed correctly a full load of Hadanite gives you 220k

rugged salmon Aug 18, 2020, 9:01 AM

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damn..

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you would have to know where to find the ore then

woeful gazelle Aug 18, 2020, 9:03 AM

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I think Yela and Daymar were the preferred spots of people

rugged salmon Aug 18, 2020, 9:09 AM

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I need to learn to mine.. I'm flying around for a hour for 4000 creds and can get 200k in the same time with this miner :p

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Do i put this car into my cutlass from the equipment menu or?

quartz laurel Aug 18, 2020, 9:12 AM

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delivery missions don't pay as much at the moment. Bounty missions will suit you more in that 1 hour. But yes ROC mining is finally worth it with the fixed collector.

woeful gazelle Aug 18, 2020, 9:13 AM

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I think you have to land on a planet outpost and spawn the vehicle there and then drive it manually into your ship

quartz laurel Aug 18, 2020, 9:13 AM

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Mining is quite good too now that samiam230K issue has been addressed. Servers were solid today. Not a single 👍

rugged salmon Aug 18, 2020, 9:14 AM

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Hmm.. but how do i know if a outpost can spawn cars?

quartz laurel Aug 18, 2020, 9:17 AM

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Fly down to a few locations to find the best place and if it can spawn vehicles etc

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I know in daymar there's a vehicle spawn on mining outpost.

sick hearth Aug 18, 2020, 9:41 AM

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Mining and research outposts on moons can spawn as well the garage in micro tech commons 🙂

turbid plinth Aug 18, 2020, 10:17 AM

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@rugged salmon look for a building at the outpoat with:

blue blinking lights
2 small vehicle pads

Theres no rule of which outposts bave facilities. You just have to know. But afaik every moon has at least 1. I go to deakins and hickes research outposts on yela/cellin

runic scarab Aug 18, 2020, 10:21 AM

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what causes the rov to say its power is low and then everything stops working?

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roc

turbid plinth Aug 18, 2020, 10:22 AM

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my preliminary conclusion about ROC mining: Easily the most value for $$ moneymaker. Upgrade your starter to it for 20$ you won't regret it. you also get a free aurora MR with it anyway so you dont lose anything.

200k an hour is very doable. So quantanium numbers. But more mentally exhausting. Youll get tired quicker

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@runic scarab nothing. the powerplant is just too weak

runic scarab Aug 18, 2020, 10:23 AM

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so upgrade it?

turbid plinth Aug 18, 2020, 10:24 AM

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no vehicle powerplant upgrade available

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there are size 0 plants in the store but they all have the same stats

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just go easy on the laser and dont push it when you hear the warning

runic scarab Aug 18, 2020, 10:27 AM

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so after its happened....

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am i just fucked?

turbid plinth Aug 18, 2020, 10:28 AM

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pretty much. it is currently an issue affecting all vehicles in the game

runic scarab Aug 18, 2020, 10:28 AM

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JESUS

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thats annoying

turbid plinth Aug 18, 2020, 10:28 AM

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if you ever power down you cant boot up again

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shut down due to overload

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worse is the reliant series, because in flight mode the cockpit is locked away

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and it comes overloaded stock

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so you're literally stuck in the plane XD

runic scarab Aug 18, 2020, 10:30 AM

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lol

woeful gazelle Aug 18, 2020, 11:41 AM

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isn't there a power off, power on button?

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any of you guys did a char reset this patch yet?

turbid plinth Aug 18, 2020, 11:59 AM

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@runic scarab try overclocking your powerplant

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might help

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you might overheat instead tho so do at be warned

ornate rock Aug 18, 2020, 1:07 PM

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3.10.1 ROC mining still seems to lose crystals on LIVE when scooping them up with the "not-a-vacuum"

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I can't compare to either 3.10 or 3.10.1 PTU, but the rates at which I sucked up crystals and how my fill gauge increased seemed inconsistent

pallid temple Aug 18, 2020, 1:08 PM

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Its not a loss of crystals

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And its a tractor beam

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What's happening is the server's just going "Oh wait a second let me process that a second there lad"

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And then it accounts it

ornate rock Aug 18, 2020, 1:09 PM

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I need to do some further testing, but I feel like stuff was lost

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there are 30 crystals in each rock, right?

pallid temple Aug 18, 2020, 1:10 PM

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Yeah no I've done the testing and its not losing stuff

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Its just the server's lagging

ornate rock Aug 18, 2020, 2:06 PM

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if all rocks have 30 gems, there is definitely loss

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whether that's due to falling through collision or getting lost in the tractor, can't say

atomic cipher Aug 18, 2020, 2:07 PM

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@pallid temple i assume its the same server lag that occurs when equipping a bunch of new armor/weapons

pallid temple Aug 18, 2020, 2:08 PM

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Not all rocks have 30 gems

ornate rock Aug 18, 2020, 2:08 PM

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ah I thought that was a fixed number

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is there a way to get an estimate to the number of gems with weight and purity?

pallid temple Aug 18, 2020, 2:10 PM

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I guess by recording the mass and the Hadanite percentages along with the number of gems

mossy canyon Aug 18, 2020, 6:22 PM

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You can still find ground minables using a ship, correct? I’ve been scanning with my carrack and only finding large rocks.

pallid temple Aug 18, 2020, 6:23 PM

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Yes

mossy canyon Aug 18, 2020, 6:36 PM

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Thanks. I’m going to try Arial instead.

glacial dagger Aug 18, 2020, 6:36 PM

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Wanna do some duo stuff?

mossy canyon Aug 18, 2020, 6:37 PM

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I would but I’ve got two people with me and we can only get 3 roc’s in the bay.

glacial dagger Aug 18, 2020, 6:38 PM

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I was gonna bring my prospector

rugged salmon Aug 18, 2020, 7:52 PM

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When i have mined with the ROC and i wanna sell the stuff, i brought it with me to PO in the ship.. but i cant access the ROC there..

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Do i have to retrieve the ROC on the planet first or?

pallid temple Aug 18, 2020, 8:04 PM

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You sell the stuff you mined at the trade terminal

light star Aug 18, 2020, 8:12 PM

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is mining more profitable than cargo now?

woeful gazelle Aug 18, 2020, 8:19 PM

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it was most of the time, other than in the "infinite laranite" rush

slow trench Aug 18, 2020, 8:20 PM

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@rugged salmon where are you mining with the ROC I haven't found any good spots yet.

pallid temple Aug 18, 2020, 8:23 PM

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@slow trench Arial is the best place for ROC mining

sonic laurel Aug 18, 2020, 8:25 PM

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I've been finding clusters of 4-9 hadanite rocks concentrated in a few places on daymar

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I can't mine them though

compact orchid Aug 18, 2020, 9:27 PM

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whats a good cargo route? cat with 900k?

peak bronze Aug 18, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Quick question: i own two roc's. Can i spawn both of them at a mining facility and have my friend drive the other and I can still sell from both? I tried this yesterday and only saw one ROC in the sell terminal

pallid temple Aug 18, 2020, 10:24 PM

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You should be able to sell from both

crimson mantle Aug 18, 2020, 10:24 PM

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@compact orchid that is precisely the kind of question https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes is meant to answer!

SC Trade Tools

Optimized Star Citizen trade routes

peak bronze Aug 18, 2020, 10:24 PM

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Is it though?

pallid temple Aug 18, 2020, 10:25 PM

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No

crimson mantle Aug 18, 2020, 10:25 PM

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sorry, wrong @ mention

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sometimes that autocomplete gets me!

peak bronze Aug 18, 2020, 10:25 PM

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😉

wind summit Aug 18, 2020, 11:35 PM

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@crimson mantle I still intend to try this out. It looks like 30ks have been reduced quite a bit. I only disconnected 4 times in 8 hours today.

crimson mantle Aug 19, 2020, 12:23 AM

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For sure, and if you have any feedback, I'm happy to hear it!

serene elk Aug 19, 2020, 2:44 AM

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does the greycat roc's laser need to be upgraded like prospector? or is there only one kind

silent ivy Aug 19, 2020, 2:51 AM

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only one kind rn

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@serene elk

serene elk Aug 19, 2020, 3:10 AM

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got it, thanks!

rugged salmon Aug 19, 2020, 4:46 AM

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I tried it out yesterday and it was fun. I had a hard time find rocks but..

ashen hare Aug 19, 2020, 4:49 AM

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Hi! I had a search around and see allot of conflicting info.

How are people finding the ROC so far? I bought one a couple days back and found it a bit annoying to use, used it once and it's sat in storage ever since..

How are your profits so far? Any tips for location?

I've been sticking to the prospector since I purchased it.. I seem to make a nice profit with it (100k-150k hr average) any chance of topping that with the ROC? Convince me not to melt it! Haha ;)

unique lion Aug 19, 2020, 4:59 AM

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I made 200k in about 45 minutes with the ROC just mining hadanite exclusively on Daymar around Arccorp mining area 141

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Top end is 220k but I stopped early to server hop to play with another guy

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I find it less annoying than a prospector.

Less possible options to appear when searching so every rock patch I see is a 33% chance to be hadanite, 0 inert material, no potential for the ore to explode, no need to upgrade to a new mining laser, don't need consumables, and all pure profit due to aforementioned lack of inert material.

If I get 800 hadanite I know it will always be 220k UEC. Never have to factor in percentages

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ROC shits all over the actual mining ships as is

silent ivy Aug 19, 2020, 5:03 AM

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I can comfortably make about 100-140k in 15min with a prospector, however, if you don't have a bunch of ships saving 100 and getting a roc basically gets you another ship

unique lion Aug 19, 2020, 5:04 AM

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and a cutlass/ROC combo to carry it around costs $155, same as a prospy.

silent ivy Aug 19, 2020, 5:04 AM

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Also, roc is insane value for price, but it doesn't out-mine the ships, ignore amateurs

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Cutlass roc combo is hella good value for a new player

unique lion Aug 19, 2020, 5:06 AM

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imo the ROC either needs a nerf, or the mining ships a buff

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Well, I take that back. Not a buff

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Prospectors filtering stuff functioning would put it leagues ahead

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So not so much a buff as its stuff actually working

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And the detachable saddlebags to mine several batches without leaving

silent ivy Aug 19, 2020, 5:07 AM

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I need to corral all you ROC bois and take you mining, or I guess make a video about how to ship mine efficiently

unique lion Aug 19, 2020, 5:08 AM

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Nah

silent ivy Aug 19, 2020, 5:09 AM

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K, keep your head in the sand and continue to misinform new miners

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Its not my discord

unique lion Aug 19, 2020, 5:09 AM

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How much you make an hour in a prospy

silent ivy Aug 19, 2020, 5:09 AM

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I just said I AVERAGE 100-140k in 15min

unique lion Aug 19, 2020, 5:09 AM

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Barring quantinium

silent ivy Aug 19, 2020, 5:09 AM

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So 400k+ an hour

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Agricium alone, 370k an hour

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Thats flat out passing up quantanium though

unique lion Aug 19, 2020, 5:11 AM

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I don't count the Quantinium only because your profit made per trip depends on when you find it. So to me it's more just candy on top if you find it to haul after you're almost full

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It's not easy to reliably say how much you'd make per trip on that since it's RNG and time based

silent ivy Aug 19, 2020, 5:11 AM

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OK, so a baseline round-trip is 15min at 90k a pop

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I can guarantee 90k or better

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And quantanium is NOT hard to find in quantity on yela

unique lion Aug 19, 2020, 5:13 AM

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So far I average about 250k an hour in an ROC.

Bit fucked atm since the tractor beam takes ages to pick shit up

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and some rocks fall through the planet or geometry

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Although I'd say 99% of the rocks don't

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But the tractor beam. Jfc

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It can sometimes take 5 seconds of pointing the beam in one spot for it to realize the rocks need to be picked up. Sometimes longer

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Not sure how much of a difference per hour it'd really make if it was instant. Wouldn't be huge, but worth a consideration.

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So that's 250k an hour, not having to buy a new laser, or worry about percentages of inert material, or consumables, or quantinium exploding, while searching exclusively for hadanite.

The extra hassle of the ship just isn't worth it lmao. Hence why I say it needs a buff, or the ROC a nerf

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On top of that you get a cutlass which does other things as well

silent ivy Aug 19, 2020, 5:19 AM

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OK so double the money isn't worth the "hassle" of 100k in a mining laser

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Because no one with a helix uses consumables outside of maybe high % quantanium

unique lion Aug 19, 2020, 5:20 AM

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It's less than double the profits, with the ROC being buggy lmfao

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And a ship that does 1 thing, instead of a multi-role ship and a miner

silent ivy Aug 19, 2020, 5:21 AM

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The ship is objectively better at making money, outside of that I don't have an opinion on convenience or other pros and cons

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There's 3-4 people here that keep preaching the ROC makes money faster and that's absolutely false

unique lion Aug 19, 2020, 5:22 AM

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It doesn't necessarily have to make money faster, it just makes money almost as fast much more reliably

silent ivy Aug 19, 2020, 5:22 AM

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And "less than double the profits" when you count the minimum I say you can expect to make an hr

unique lion Aug 19, 2020, 5:23 AM

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When I'm wasting almost 2-3 min. Per rock I mine patch trying to pick up rocks due to the laggy laser, I can argue I'd shave 6-9 minutes off every patch I mine

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Since most are 3 rocks

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Standard is 3 anyway, have seen upwards of 14, but those are few and far between. And not worth considering imo

silent ivy Aug 19, 2020, 5:24 AM

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Ok dude this is a waste of both our time

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I've spent 20+hrs in a roc and 300 easily in a prospector, if you don't want to recognize what I'm saying thats fine, but I just don't want to try and convince you anymore

unique lion Aug 19, 2020, 5:26 AM

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I don't need convincing lol, saying it how it is

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I never said the ROC was better, it's just easier to make nearly the same amount even with bugs. So it isn't worth getting a prospy for the same price instead of 2 vessels that can cover a wider range of jobs

silent ivy Aug 19, 2020, 5:28 AM

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I'll remember that the next time you say it out-mines ships when someone comes asking, specifically, which makes more money

ashen hare Aug 19, 2020, 5:41 AM

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Thank you for the input, it seems I need to try it again, unfortunately I only have the loaner freelancer, so makes it a bit of a pain to transport around, will hop on in 5 and see if I get a nicer run this time around. Thanks again. Will update you once I try

rugged salmon Aug 19, 2020, 6:42 AM

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When i mine with the roc, i get alot of small gems i pick up, and a rock looking like a big gem i cannot touch.. is it because my roc beam is to weak or?

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Didnt work to beam it or scoop it..

nova dagger Aug 19, 2020, 6:57 AM

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Thats dirt, not a big gem, it just shows like a gem icon cause that was location for gems

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All is working normal

upper cipher Aug 19, 2020, 7:22 AM

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Where's a good place to mine Quantanium other than Crusader/Yela Ring > PO?

wind summit Aug 19, 2020, 7:26 AM

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Do all of the mining materials have a chance to become unstable?

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All of a sudden anything I put in my hold is immediately unstable.

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I didn’t have diamond in my hold for 1 minute and it was going off before I finished the rest of the rock.

rich bane Aug 19, 2020, 7:48 AM

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Yah it's buggy, at least for me ship didn't blow up just stopped beeping

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Roc is their main priority atm and income, so don't expect any fixes to ship mining any time soon

wind summit Aug 19, 2020, 8:20 AM

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Yeah, I just destroyed and reclaimed my ship and it stoped. Must have thought something was damaged

ionic needle Aug 19, 2020, 9:17 AM

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@silent ivy yo, make a video. i will watch it. got a prospector but im shit at mining. any tips would be great

woeful gazelle Aug 19, 2020, 10:17 AM

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@ionic needle I wrote a guide some time ago maybe it'll help you
https://sites.google.com/view/starcitizenminersguide

Montis' Miner's Guide (WIP)

ionic needle Aug 19, 2020, 11:32 AM

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thx dude. just did a run on yela surface. 50k in an hour lolz

thick crown Aug 19, 2020, 11:49 AM

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It's not much but it's honest work.

turbid plinth Aug 19, 2020, 1:30 PM

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ROCing is hella profitable

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everything about the ROC that is hard is the bugs with the vehicle itself. The car gradually overheats and shuts down if you leave it on/run the laser for more than 5 mins continuously

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Workaround: turn off the car when you stow it in your ship between gem sites. let it cool down

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I also have luck breaking/collecting rocks 3-4 at a time. the collection beam lets it cool down

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if you hear the 'too hot!' message DONT FORCE IT. Stop and shutdown for a minute to cool down. If you force it the car will kill itself on you and you can actually lose the whole car

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If you're unlucky It will shutdown and lock you in the driver seat and cannot be turned on again

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they need to add a better size 0 cooler/powerplant to cater to the ROC

pallid temple Aug 19, 2020, 1:37 PM

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I've never had an issue with overheating on the mining laser

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The only time I have is when I overclocked it to see what would happen

turbid plinth Aug 19, 2020, 1:37 PM

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are you breaking and collecting 1 at a time? or breaking 13 rocks and scooping at once

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you will encounter overheat if you do the latter

pallid temple Aug 19, 2020, 1:38 PM

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Who breaks 13 at once? Are you a masochist?

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You're either a masochist or you love low FPS

turbid plinth Aug 19, 2020, 1:38 PM

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well i tried to when i started 😄 lost 4 cars to overheat

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and mmmm microsoft powerpoint

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people who are new to mining too. they spend a lot longer to crack each rock. they will encounter the overheat

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oh. and the laser is so powerful it pushes your car around. Don't laser rocks at an angle or your car will be gradually turned. I lasered a rock below me and my car actually started lifting off XDD

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keep rocks straight ahead. much more stable

pallid temple Aug 19, 2020, 1:42 PM

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That's not an issue with the laser

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Its an issue where if you leave the engines on, it slowly slides around

turbid plinth Aug 19, 2020, 1:44 PM

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yea but i notice the laser does push you harder

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probably a combination of both

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ill keep it on cause its funny even if it makes things harder

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need some entertainment

ionic needle Aug 19, 2020, 1:48 PM

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@silent ivy so whats the secret? i did two trips sighting agricium on yela surface and both yeilded 50k per hr. 90k per 15mins you must be incredibly lucky or is there something im missing?

turbid plinth Aug 19, 2020, 1:50 PM

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^thats about how much i make hauling agricium. More with quantanium i suppose

ionic needle Aug 19, 2020, 1:51 PM

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seems so

turbid plinth Aug 19, 2020, 1:52 PM

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i will say that quantanium can easily beat other moneymaking methods if your cargo dupes frequently. Ive made 500k+ in a 30 min run

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quantanium is hella buggy in a good way. you can sell 2-3 times if youre on a laggy server

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even without it its almost 300k if you get a full load

ionic needle Aug 19, 2020, 1:54 PM

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igt ill try mining that next

silent ivy Aug 19, 2020, 1:55 PM

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when i "go for agricium" im not extracting rocks with less than 100% agricium

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i think part of why so many people struggle to make mining in a prospector time effective is they apparently dont know how to fly it quickly enough while scanning rocks

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i dont even break anything under 10% of whatever i deem acceptable to put in the cargo (agricium or better)

ionic needle Aug 19, 2020, 2:00 PM

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ah ok i was breaking rocks that had 2.5% up agricuim. prospector flies like a turd . defo not good at flying it

turbid plinth Aug 19, 2020, 2:00 PM

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ahh. nothing below 5%

silent ivy Aug 19, 2020, 2:00 PM

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turbid plinth Aug 19, 2020, 2:01 PM

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pick up above 50%

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i pull 87k on the dollar for 100% agricium

silent ivy Aug 19, 2020, 2:02 PM

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i didnt happen to have a screenie of pure agri

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but im doing these full cargo, clean hauls in like 15 minutes on average

turbid plinth Aug 19, 2020, 2:02 PM

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guess lara is worth more

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you lucky then

silent ivy Aug 19, 2020, 2:02 PM

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if im lucky, 10 minutes, if its trash and sloppy, 20

turbid plinth Aug 19, 2020, 2:03 PM

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im 30 mins average

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and even then my party gives me shit XD

silent ivy Aug 19, 2020, 2:03 PM

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again, i think its a matter of getting around quickly to FIND the stuff you want to get

ionic needle Aug 19, 2020, 2:03 PM

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@silent ivy pls post a vid, maybe ill be able to pick up some tips. and see what im doing wrong

silent ivy Aug 19, 2020, 2:04 PM

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id rather just take you out tbh

ionic needle Aug 19, 2020, 2:04 PM

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doesnt need to be high production

silent ivy Aug 19, 2020, 2:04 PM

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im not interested in trying to clean up some short video to have my balls busted by the naysayers looking for an excuse

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its more work than id like to put in to be honest with you

ionic needle Aug 19, 2020, 2:05 PM

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if taking me with u is less work than cool. im game sometime. will dm u

silent ivy Aug 19, 2020, 2:06 PM

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for sure and if i convince you its nutty, spread the word

ionic needle Aug 19, 2020, 2:07 PM

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yh grand. i just want to get rich fast lol

rich bane Aug 19, 2020, 2:43 PM

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You can sell ores multiple times cause of lagg, but their probably tracking this shit, and high canche to get uec wipe

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Also lately this has been causing issues with the server and lagg

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Since many players keep selling multiple times

wind summit Aug 19, 2020, 3:48 PM

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So far today trading has been good. Moved several full cats of cargo.

cinder rampart Aug 19, 2020, 4:03 PM

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yeap i just did 3 runs with 2 cats not a single issue and we made like 600k in 40 minutes or so

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maybe less. didnt track the time

rich bane Aug 19, 2020, 4:38 PM

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Thinking upgrading my Titan to ROC, since i own Prospector anyway

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My titan just never gets used, only when i'm hurry jumping longer distancses

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Wondering when they will make ROC buyable with UEC, i guess 3 or 4 months or so

outer finch Aug 19, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Is running multiple cats full of cargo still a thing or is it not worth it in 3.10.1

pallid temple Aug 19, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Probably 3.11 or 3.12 @rich bane

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Is when we can get the ROC with aUEC

rich bane Aug 19, 2020, 4:41 PM

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It just seems ROC is more profitable then prospector atm

pallid temple Aug 19, 2020, 4:41 PM

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Yep

rich bane Aug 19, 2020, 4:41 PM

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I just want to grind UEC faster to buy CAT or something

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wanna try trading just for luls

outer finch Aug 19, 2020, 4:47 PM

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Is running multiple cats full of cargo still a thing or is it not worth it in 3.10.1??

white vale Aug 19, 2020, 4:50 PM

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I want to like my roc, but its such a hassle to use compared to t he prospector

rich bane Aug 19, 2020, 4:51 PM

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But if the income is faster, then i think it's worth it

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RIght now ship mining is kinda buggy too

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at least we can scan now though

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THough scanning in belts, is still broken

elder pendant Aug 19, 2020, 4:52 PM

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I'd say the ROC is the gateway to the prospector. For $55 you can get the potential to make hundreds of thousands per day. Lowered the barrier to entry.

rich bane Aug 19, 2020, 4:52 PM

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But yah i just bought a ROC, so i guess i give it a go

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Boored anyways, want to try something new

white vale Aug 19, 2020, 4:54 PM

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Roc is more profitable atm

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Just more tedious

rich bane Aug 19, 2020, 4:54 PM

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Do you need to hand pick the ores, or ROC works atm?

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Can throw some fast tips, before i get to it

elder pendant Aug 19, 2020, 4:55 PM

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The ROC will pick up the ore

cinder rampart Aug 19, 2020, 4:55 PM

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@outer finch i ran 2 beacuse i had one to pilot the 2nd. but u got to be whilling to risk lossing 800k if you crash or get 30k'ed

rich bane Aug 19, 2020, 4:55 PM

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ROC will be thigh fit in to Freelancer?

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i'll probably need to rent cutlass black

elder pendant Aug 19, 2020, 4:56 PM

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Pick up the ore as you break the rocks. If too much ore lays on the ground, the worse you frames per second gets.

pallid temple Aug 19, 2020, 4:56 PM

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The ROC can fit in the Freelancer

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But its a tight fit

elder pendant Aug 19, 2020, 4:56 PM

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ROC is tight in both, but freelancer will be fine

rich bane Aug 19, 2020, 4:56 PM

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Okay

pallid temple Aug 19, 2020, 4:56 PM

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The ROC isn't a tight fit in a Cutlass Black

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It fits comfortably in a Black

rich bane Aug 19, 2020, 4:58 PM

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So i guess Daymar it is

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Since i've seen fk tons of Hadnite spawns there

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while mining with Prospector

pallid temple Aug 19, 2020, 4:59 PM

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Arial's the best moon for ROC mining

rich bane Aug 19, 2020, 4:59 PM

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Why so?

pallid temple Aug 19, 2020, 4:59 PM

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Because it has only Hadanite rocks

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And Hadanite is the most valuable gem

undone socket Aug 19, 2020, 5:00 PM

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is the aaron belt working?

rich bane Aug 19, 2020, 5:00 PM

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You sell ores at Hurtson, or somewhare at outpost?

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i mean Lorville

pallid temple Aug 19, 2020, 5:01 PM

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You can sell the gems at any place that has a trading terminal

undone socket Aug 19, 2020, 5:01 PM

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is aaron belt working?

pallid temple Aug 19, 2020, 5:01 PM

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Yes its working

undone socket Aug 19, 2020, 5:02 PM

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cool so being fixed, awsome

rich bane Aug 19, 2020, 5:02 PM

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But does any arial outposts, have terminals?

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I'm just so used mining only at Crusader, and selling at PO

pallid temple Aug 19, 2020, 5:05 PM

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Yes

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HDMS-Lathan and Bedzek both have trading terminals

crimson mantle Aug 19, 2020, 5:12 PM

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@rich bane You can use https://sc-trade.tools/best-buyer to check where to sell your stuff, plus you can whitelist only certain locations, like "Stanton > Hurston > Arial".

SC Trade Tools

Optimized Star Citizen trade routes

pallid temple Aug 19, 2020, 5:13 PM

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But for selling gems it doesn't matter because gems can be sold for the same price anywhere

crimson mantle Aug 19, 2020, 5:14 PM

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True, but not every shop buys them.

crude basin Aug 19, 2020, 5:48 PM

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You don't need a ROC to break the Hadanite rocks, using a rental Prospector with the low end default laser can do the job if you time the laser carefully with 1/4 second bursts to keep it in the green.

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Picking up by hand takes time though

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And is more complicated on a hot/cold planet because the hazmat suits have no inventory space currently

rich bane Aug 19, 2020, 5:58 PM

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i guess i forgot the bring right suit, cause Arial is one fkd up place for sure ^^

odd flint Aug 19, 2020, 6:01 PM

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ROC also seems to provide a little bit of extra protection from the elements.

naive maple Aug 19, 2020, 6:52 PM

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Any Quantanium Mining locations on Microtech Moons?

crude basin Aug 19, 2020, 6:53 PM

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Quantanium is random in my experience

rich bane Aug 19, 2020, 6:59 PM

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The times where you using ROC to mine, and stumble across good quantanium rock 😄

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just found one with 8k tons 19% with 83 purity

odd flint Aug 19, 2020, 7:23 PM

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By the way, we tried mining large rocks with multiple ROCs and so far, no go.

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At the very least, with 2 ROCs we were not able to make any headway.

rugged salmon Aug 19, 2020, 7:26 PM

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Is it just me or is the Prospector useless? I try to mine with it and it cant crack a damn stone.. lol

odd flint Aug 19, 2020, 7:27 PM

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I don't have one, but my understanding is that the upgraded mining bit is useful.

rich bane Aug 19, 2020, 7:28 PM

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well prospector comes with stock mining head

rugged salmon Aug 19, 2020, 7:28 PM

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Well.. This Obsidian rock aint moving at all.. damn it

rich bane Aug 19, 2020, 7:28 PM

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wich cant crack anything anove 3.5-4k ton rock

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medium hardness

rugged salmon Aug 19, 2020, 7:29 PM

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bah

rich bane Aug 19, 2020, 7:29 PM

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and if you do crack it's due server desync

rugged salmon Aug 19, 2020, 7:29 PM

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So i have to upgrade the beam

rich bane Aug 19, 2020, 7:29 PM

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yah Helix is best, cracks anything

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cost 105k or so

rugged salmon Aug 19, 2020, 7:29 PM

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but i dont have 100k.. lol

rich bane Aug 19, 2020, 7:29 PM

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Hofstede is medium one i belive

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wich is good too

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i belive it cost around 20k or so

rugged salmon Aug 19, 2020, 7:30 PM

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tech 1 or 2?

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S2 i mean

rich bane Aug 19, 2020, 7:31 PM

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prospector is size 1

rugged salmon Aug 19, 2020, 7:31 PM

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It cost 12750 and i damn dont have that either..

rich bane Aug 19, 2020, 7:31 PM

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but i think few patches ago, prospector now can equip size 2 too

rugged salmon Aug 19, 2020, 7:31 PM

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fml

rich bane Aug 19, 2020, 7:31 PM

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but to be safe go 1

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wont be any different anyways

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size 2 was meant originally for Mole

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You have rental prospector or bought one?

rugged salmon Aug 19, 2020, 7:32 PM

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I bought one

rich bane Aug 19, 2020, 7:32 PM

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okay

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But yah just head to yela

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start mining, you can just go for diamond to

rugged salmon Aug 19, 2020, 7:33 PM

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I need that beam upgrade first

rich bane Aug 19, 2020, 7:33 PM

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or do a few deliveri missions

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until you can buy hofstede

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it's quite good too

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but get Helix asap

rugged salmon Aug 19, 2020, 7:35 PM

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Klein S1 cost less and have more damage

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right, that is S1

karmic escarp Aug 19, 2020, 11:25 PM

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So I'm poking around for asteroids and they show up, but they can't be scanned and putting the laser on them does nothing noticeable. This common?

vocal prairie Aug 20, 2020, 12:21 AM

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Common for asteroids to bug out yes.

white vale Aug 20, 2020, 1:06 AM

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If you can exit and re enter your ship without dying they will become scannable

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I’ve had that work every time it hasn’t killed me in the process

ashen hare Aug 20, 2020, 5:10 AM

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Finally had a go in my roc, 135k in a hour, Not bad at all. i guess i can get better as time goes on. Think i will stick to the prospector until future updates. much easier.

undone socket Aug 20, 2020, 6:03 AM

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is there an issue mining quantanium with prospector, when it says cargo full, but get to terminal it says its 25% full???

glacial dagger Aug 20, 2020, 6:04 AM

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Possibly taking up a lot of inert material?

undone socket Aug 20, 2020, 6:12 AM

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but wont it show amount of inhert u take?

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cause it shows me

glacial dagger Aug 20, 2020, 6:13 AM

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Possibly. Maybe you didn't mine as much quantum as you thought?

undone socket Aug 20, 2020, 6:15 AM

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also mining in yela belt, most of rocks can not be scanned, is this also an issue? or just me?

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on planet works, belt not realy

glacial dagger Aug 20, 2020, 6:16 AM

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Not just you. Are you using a hired or bought prospector?

rich bane Aug 20, 2020, 6:16 AM

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Yah it's bugged

undone socket Aug 20, 2020, 6:16 AM

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i had a bought, didnt work, lost it on .10.1, now hired still not working

rich bane Aug 20, 2020, 6:17 AM

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Re enter ship or Qt to somewhare and instantly shut of engine

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But if you're looking just for quantanium, then just eyeball them if they have copper color veins on them, then it's quantanium

glacial dagger Aug 20, 2020, 6:19 AM

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Or look for 'q' type rocks. Those always have quantainium in them as well

rich bane Aug 20, 2020, 6:21 AM

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I tried roc mining yesterday, I think the benefit of roc is, it will give you much more stable income

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With ship mining it's much more based on luck

glacial dagger Aug 20, 2020, 6:22 AM

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True. now, the true perk of the roc is to pick up after a prospector has broken down gem rocks

rich bane Aug 20, 2020, 6:22 AM

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Why so?

glacial dagger Aug 20, 2020, 6:22 AM

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I would recommend a prospector, a cutless black/carrrack and two./three rocs

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the prospector can break down the rocks while the carrack/cutlass is landing and deploying the rocs

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then, while the rocs are scooping up, the prospector can move onto the next location

rich bane Aug 20, 2020, 6:23 AM

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I see

glacial dagger Aug 20, 2020, 6:23 AM

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rinse and repeat until the rocs storage is full

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me and two others net about 40k each run

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and we can easily get 5-6 runs in

rich bane Aug 20, 2020, 6:24 AM

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Well it can be fun with group indeed

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Too bad my friends don't play though :D

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But yah it's nice to have a roc, just for refreshment

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Doing only ship mining can get old

glacial dagger Aug 20, 2020, 6:27 AM

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Plus groups mean banter

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and banter means the hours can just fly by

cloud matrix Aug 20, 2020, 8:57 AM

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Is there a good time to buy new ship with game credit? some exp?

rich bane Aug 20, 2020, 9:29 AM

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Probably not yet, not sure if it's been fixed though yet

round lintel Aug 20, 2020, 9:36 AM

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Is the ROC pledge only or is there somewhere I can buy it with UEC?

ornate rock Aug 20, 2020, 9:37 AM

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for now only in the pledge store, I wouldn't expect it to be purchasable with aUEC before 3.11

round lintel Aug 20, 2020, 9:40 AM

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Oof. Well, I guess it's renting a prospector for me until I can purchase one

rich bane Aug 20, 2020, 9:54 AM

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Any workaround spawning ROC? cause i'm unable to retrive it

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I know this bug still presists with ships, but going different station always worked

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But any luck with ground vehciles

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going different moon helps?

pallid temple Aug 20, 2020, 9:58 AM

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Yes

rich bane Aug 20, 2020, 10:05 AM

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I hope they fix this bug soon, i belive it's been around here almost a year

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Cause atm i self destruct my ship each time i log off, to avoid the hassle going different station each time i log on

thick crown Aug 20, 2020, 10:27 AM

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I hear they are reworking that code entirely so that's why the bugs haven't been fixed. Dunno whom I heard it from though...

barren glade Aug 20, 2020, 11:28 AM

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hi guys, i just saw that my Mustang alpha is having a "Mining mod" is that means that i could put a mining on my front turret ?

pallid temple Aug 20, 2020, 11:43 AM

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No

brisk sapphire Aug 20, 2020, 1:01 PM

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anyone else having problems getting into ship in hangers on babbage , seems to tip on its side all the tim

barren glade Aug 20, 2020, 1:01 PM

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Thx, so what is it for ?

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Bulvi , i dont know but since today, when i took my mustang, i get in, and im stuck and nothing respond

pallid temple Aug 20, 2020, 1:02 PM

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The hints aren't quite as contextual as they should be

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Seeing as for 3.10 every ship can scan for mineable rocks, but only 2 ships and 1 vehicle in Star Citizen can actually do mining

barren glade Aug 20, 2020, 1:04 PM

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i know, but as the mustang have a little cargo and purposing this "mod" i found this curious

pallid temple Aug 20, 2020, 1:05 PM

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Its not a mod

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Ships have a scan mode, but ships that can actually do mining have a mining mode

nimble leaf Aug 20, 2020, 2:04 PM

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hey guys, can somebody tell me how I can mine the new hand minerals on the surface of the planets? Because I tried with the handmining tool but It didn't do shht!

pallid temple Aug 20, 2020, 2:04 PM

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You can't do it with the multi-tool

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Those are mined with the ROC

nimble leaf Aug 20, 2020, 2:05 PM

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I see, thanks

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and how I can get this ROC car

pallid temple Aug 20, 2020, 2:05 PM

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Right now you can get the Greycat ROC from the Pledge Store

crimson mantle Aug 20, 2020, 2:19 PM

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in a few months it should be available in-game too

lethal kayak Aug 20, 2020, 3:47 PM

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@nimble leaf You can mine on Deymar caves with your multi-tool, just get a find missing person mission on Deymar and it'll take you to a cave. Once there mine for Hadanite (most money)...also get a max-flex armor for the carry capacity.

sonic laurel Aug 20, 2020, 3:55 PM

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we really need mapping for caves

lethal kayak Aug 20, 2020, 4:03 PM

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Nah, they're all linear.... only problem is getting stuck in them

sonic laurel Aug 20, 2020, 4:06 PM

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they are linear? That hasn't been my experience

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maybe I just get turned around

astral vigil Aug 20, 2020, 4:59 PM

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Is mining with roc more profitable than cargo running on a cat this patch

pallid temple Aug 20, 2020, 5:00 PM

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Yes

elder pendant Aug 20, 2020, 5:00 PM

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Probably not, but it depends on how many 30k's you get and how much of a set back they are

pallid temple Aug 20, 2020, 5:00 PM

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Well you can make 220k/hour with a ROC soooo

elder pendant Aug 20, 2020, 5:01 PM

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You can make 600k an hour with a cat.... sooooooooo

pallid temple Aug 20, 2020, 5:02 PM

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Yes but the potential loss in a cat is mental

elder pendant Aug 20, 2020, 5:02 PM

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There isn't any upfront capital involved... which is the benefit of the ROC. $55 IRL money

pallid temple Aug 20, 2020, 5:02 PM

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You load up a Cat with laranite and boom you've lost 300k

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If you 30k

elder pendant Aug 20, 2020, 5:02 PM

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Cat is expensive

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Correct. Which is why my statement stands as correct "depends on how many 30k's you get"

white cairn Aug 20, 2020, 5:03 PM

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or if literally anyone else is also buying up the commodities

elder pendant Aug 20, 2020, 5:03 PM

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True. If stock isn't available to be bought or sold, that's going to slow you down

mystic quail Aug 20, 2020, 6:16 PM

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i bought a roc yesterday

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should it show up in my fleet manager ?

smoky lodge Aug 20, 2020, 6:16 PM

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Hey, I updated the launcher to the new version, and now it's not taking my password. Yes it is correct

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nevermind I got it

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had to restart the damn launcher like 5 times

elder pendant Aug 20, 2020, 6:33 PM

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@mystic quail The ROC will only spawn at ground terminals. It will show up there.

mystic quail Aug 20, 2020, 6:33 PM

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yeah i was a dummy and didnt activate it in my hangar

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but thanks for the reply 🙂

rugged salmon Aug 20, 2020, 6:38 PM

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How do i overcharge my mining laser?

pallid temple Aug 20, 2020, 6:43 PM

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As in overclock?

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In the power menu

elder pendant Aug 20, 2020, 6:58 PM

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Can anyone confirm that all rocks fill the cargo of the ROC by 5%? Here is my small test.

📎 hadanite.jpg

pallid temple Aug 20, 2020, 6:59 PM

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Its a little hard to quantify given the delays in the updating of the cargo

elder pendant Aug 20, 2020, 6:59 PM

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The one outlier, 4.61% cargo, was because a piece shot off and I couldn't find it.

pallid temple Aug 20, 2020, 6:59 PM

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But its around 4-5% per rock

elder pendant Aug 20, 2020, 6:59 PM

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Well this was one rock, fly to a different location. Mine one more. Fly again. Cargo always was the same loading and unloading the ROC in the Cutlass

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Why would a .75 mass that is 51% pure, give you the same as a .85 mass that is 98.57 pure?

pallid temple Aug 20, 2020, 7:00 PM

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I mean its a very interesting question to ask

elder pendant Aug 20, 2020, 7:00 PM

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I guess you're just looking for 20 rocks I suppose. Doesn't matter the size or content it appears.

pallid temple Aug 20, 2020, 7:01 PM

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One way to take this a step further is to record the mass of the rock, the percentage of Hadanite and then count the gems that appear from the fracture

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Do that 20 times or so and try and factor that in

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It's a little tedious but its the best we could do

rugged salmon Aug 20, 2020, 7:06 PM

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well.. i just found alot of rocks, cracked them all.. now i cant collect the minerals

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ffs

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Regardless of how long i try to extract, nothing happends

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Is this a comon bug with the prospector?

pallid temple Aug 20, 2020, 7:07 PM

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Is there a purple outline around the smaller rocks?

rugged salmon Aug 20, 2020, 7:07 PM

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yes

pallid temple Aug 20, 2020, 7:07 PM

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Unless the server's just hung up, you should be able to extract the minerals fine, what are you trying to mine with the Prospector?

rugged salmon Aug 20, 2020, 7:08 PM

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Hadanite atm

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its like 50 small rocks here and i cant scoop them

elder pendant Aug 20, 2020, 7:08 PM

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You can't pick up hadanite with a prospector

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Not the .85 or .75 size rocks

rugged salmon Aug 20, 2020, 7:09 PM

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So, they are too small?

elder pendant Aug 20, 2020, 7:09 PM

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Yeah, those are considered hand mineables

rugged salmon Aug 20, 2020, 7:09 PM

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bah

elder pendant Aug 20, 2020, 7:09 PM

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You need to use a Greycat ROC

rugged salmon Aug 20, 2020, 7:09 PM

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But i cant mine the big rocks.. the beam aint strong enough

elder pendant Aug 20, 2020, 7:09 PM

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Yeah, that's the crux of the prospector. You NEED the helix head, or it's tough.

rugged salmon Aug 20, 2020, 7:10 PM

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god damn it

elder pendant Aug 20, 2020, 7:10 PM

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Did you rent or buy the prospector?

rugged salmon Aug 20, 2020, 7:10 PM

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I bought it, so i can melt it.

elder pendant Aug 20, 2020, 7:11 PM

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You don't have 108k aUEC?

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For the head?

rugged salmon Aug 20, 2020, 7:11 PM

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No, i wish i had.. lol

elder pendant Aug 20, 2020, 7:11 PM

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I can send it to you.

rugged salmon Aug 20, 2020, 7:11 PM

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For real?!

elder pendant Aug 20, 2020, 7:11 PM

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Sure. I've made plenty mining with the ROC in the past week

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Add me in game. Same name

rugged salmon Aug 20, 2020, 7:12 PM

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I tried to work with the ROC but.. it was a mess, so i upgraded to the Prospector

elder pendant Aug 20, 2020, 7:12 PM

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The ROC is my fav right now. I think it works Good.

rugged salmon Aug 20, 2020, 7:13 PM

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So they say but.. I didnt figure it out i guess

pallid temple Aug 20, 2020, 7:13 PM

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It's been fixed

elder pendant Aug 20, 2020, 7:13 PM

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Strange that I was also able to sell 807 and 813 TOTAL units, but the max is 800 from the ROC

rugged salmon Aug 20, 2020, 7:13 PM

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I guess it was all the driving around to reach the rocks

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3000m+ driving for each

pallid temple Aug 20, 2020, 7:13 PM

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Yeah its been a little interesting selling stuff from the ROC

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Yeah no you can rent a Cutlass for 20k

elder pendant Aug 20, 2020, 7:14 PM

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You can carry the ROC around in your freelancer

pallid temple Aug 20, 2020, 7:14 PM

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I wouldn't recommend the Freelancer

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Its not a good fit

rugged salmon Aug 20, 2020, 7:14 PM

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I have a Cutlass

elder pendant Aug 20, 2020, 7:14 PM

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Well it's just free....

pallid temple Aug 20, 2020, 7:14 PM

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Yeah no you carry the ROC in the Cutlass

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And use the Cutlass to find rocks

elder pendant Aug 20, 2020, 7:15 PM

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Cutlass Red is my goto, incase of a mining mishap in the field, I can respawn in the medbay 🙂

rugged salmon Aug 20, 2020, 7:15 PM

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Moving the ROC in and out of the Cutlass all the time felt like a mess to me.. sadly

elder pendant Aug 20, 2020, 7:16 PM

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It takes me about 90 minutes, on average, with the ROC in the Cutlass to get full.

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In the dark, takes longer

rugged salmon Aug 20, 2020, 7:16 PM

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im new... :p

elder pendant Aug 20, 2020, 7:16 PM

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Two people can do it in an hour

pallid temple Aug 20, 2020, 7:16 PM

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How does it take you 90 minutes?

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At max it should take you 60 minutes solo

elder pendant Aug 20, 2020, 7:16 PM

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Well then I guess I'm slow 🙂

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I can

pallid temple Aug 20, 2020, 7:16 PM

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I'm slow and it takes me an hour

elder pendant Aug 20, 2020, 7:17 PM

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I don't find 20 rocks to mine in an hour

pallid temple Aug 20, 2020, 7:17 PM

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No offense but that means you need to literally git gud

elder pendant Aug 20, 2020, 7:17 PM

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Small batches of hadanite, 2-3 rocks per bundle.

pallid temple Aug 20, 2020, 7:17 PM

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But if you're mining on anywhere other than Arial then I'd understand, because Arial has only Hadanite

elder pendant Aug 20, 2020, 7:17 PM

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Arial and Microtech

pallid temple Aug 20, 2020, 7:17 PM

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Yeah don't do it on microTech

rugged salmon Aug 20, 2020, 7:18 PM

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Well.. Somehow i feel that the Prospector is good to work with but.. it's useless as it is

pallid temple Aug 20, 2020, 7:18 PM

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The atmosphere makes it a pain to fly through, and general visibility is low

elder pendant Aug 20, 2020, 7:18 PM

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Well on Arial you get melted by the heat

pallid temple Aug 20, 2020, 7:18 PM

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That's why you bring water