Oh? Do tell
#industrial-professions
hollow sedge
hollow sedge
Oh why u gotta do me like that
Yeah ik it's been fixed to the original state
Meant I was hoping the original state would get tuned a bit
real vessel
For clarity of understanding, @pallid temple are you saying that trading in 3.10 is unchanged from the state of late 3.9?
real vessel
The lari boom is over
real vessel
what was up with the 20000 credits people have mentioned?
turbid plinth
its a standard character reset
minimum 20k uec
or rather 20k base
starting money for new players is 'alpha amount' + amount in account
turbid plinth
alpha amount was 0 UEC before. now its 20k
real vessel
Thank you for explaining this
turbid plinth
np
hollow sedge
damn, ships reset?
RIP, reliant, we barely knew ye 😭
huh yeah that emerald is sticking around for some reason
lofty crest
no more cat, the big sad lads
placid bridge
State of trading in 3.10?
rain tundra
So how do you unload the ROC? The panel in the back opens put there's no interact?
pallid temple
You don't unload it @rain tundra
rain tundra
I thought the thing was you can unload it into the ships physics grid like backpack mined goods
pallid temple
No
proven token
maybe someday,but for now, no
lean heart
can you buy greycat in game?
pallid temple
No
timber compass
I saw this in the patch notes, is this the same as the UI lag that happens every once in a while or did they just break mining?
celest oracle
Is surface hand mining viable now?
timber compass
My friend has been doing it, and she can make maybe 10k per run
From mining the hand mining deposits that spawn on some of the asteroids
Been letting her ride along in my Prospector while I do ship mining, and if I find an FPS rock I let her go out and mine iy
But now with 3.10 she should be able yo look for them herself, since all ships can scan for ores now
celest oracle
Yeah I noticed that too, they seem to pop up like mushrooms though I didn't check if they were actually hand minables
timber compass
They show up as little diamond symbols on the hud
ornate rock
I still wanna team up with someone and scan for them in my fighter while they mine in their prospector, seems like the best way to team up for mining right now
cloud slate
Hope mining isnt broken was hoping to use that a decent form of money making this patch with the roc...
ornate rock
I think scanning for a miner works probably best in belts though, on planets it'd be a pain
celest oracle
Kinda sad you can't buy the roc in game
cloud slate
Really?@celest oracle
timber compass
I bought a Prospector outright, it's my go-to moneymaker right now, I really really hope they didn't just break mining...
celest oracle
That's what I read around here, either that or I'm dumb af
timber compass
I can't test it until tonight though
ornate rock
I don't think mining should be borked too much, maybe it changed on moons
cloud slate
Is asteroid mining still only stale around yela?
ornate rock
not sure, that's where I did my mining in 3.9.1 tho
mining on moons is nice for the view, but you can't really semi afk
cloud slate
Hmmm will have to have a gander
celest oracle
Is it only me or the freelancer always spawns broken?
obtuse sundial
The ones that I have found do anyway @hollow sedge
hollow sedge
won't that take away 30 mins of your time
lilac grotto
can you move the ROC mined cargo to your ship inv yet?
upbeat fractal
Did anyone found out any info about 15k delivery missions?
It used to be in Hurston, but now it's gone.
vale stratus
Wish ROC wasn’t broken as shit on release
crimson mantle
We can finally do some trading around microTech https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/i4avo3/310_traders_patch_notes_summary_datamining/.compact
proven token
Yea they broke the mole, idk how they could be ok with a ship designed to not even hold its own weight
opal crow
I mean idc about the weight i litterly cant fly this thing it just drops like a rock in the atmosphere , is impossible to control, and i cant even land inside po without blowing it up
This is so stupid .
tranquil ibex
Hello!
Any good trading page/app for 3.10?????
brave agate
Sad thing is i tried to warn people about the mole in the PTU. No one listened and now it has gone to live.
opal crow
Idk i never been able to get into ptu because the game would crash
real vessel
Was hoping that multi crew in the MOLE would have been improved in 3.10. Seems I still can't QT when someone is in the ship
Lest they walk down to the elevator
placid bridge
Can I not switch out parts on my rental anymore?
desert flicker
I have the ROC in my hanger but i cant pull it ingame at the proper terminal? is it not flight ready?
placid bridge
Can't spawn it in the live build sadly.
ornate rock
crimson mantle
@tranquil ibex https://sc-trade.tools
glad furnace
Are there minable rocks around lorville to gather if I pull a ROC from the city gates?
quartz laurel
Has the scanning range been fixed for prospector now in 3.10?
quartz laurel
Sad thing is i tried to warn people about the mole in the PTU. No one listened and now it has gone to live.
@brave agate , did you log an issue in the council?
onyx fossil
can someone help me quick?
quartz laurel
The prospector scan range last I read was nerfed from the 12k to 20k range down to 3k range.... The blips of resource rock scanned in the blue box that comes up were not in the same location once approached. Re-scans also don't pick up the previous successful scan positions even without moving or changing scan settings. I haven't tried 3.10 with prospector so wondered if there was any changes.
onyx fossil
i just bought greycat miner and i cant spawn it
glad furnace
currently bugged, for new purchases, should be fixed shortly or you can character reset to fix it now
they are having database issues right now
onyx fossil
i bet their data base issues got my money though lol
quartz laurel
different database 😛
onyx fossil
uhhh huhh
ok, well that clears things up
i was just curious
it seemed after i purchased i could not apply new purchase to my hangar via their website like other ships ive gotten in the past
ashen epoch
ok i dont mind the flight system but if test that snub fighter be preped to suicide you wont find your way back they need to allow pinning of location like if click olisar pin it on radar and it shows up on hud or somthing XD even if dont have a quantum drive
glad furnace
how do you free-aim the mining laser arm on the ROC?
pallid temple
You should be able to freely move it about once you engage mining mode
Or tab G to switch to gimbal mode
pallid temple
👍
brave agate
@quartz laurel i did.
celest oracle
Guys if you are doing cargo and you hear a huge deafening roar behind you it's just a bug. Do not poop yourself like I did, never did a takeoff so fast
turbid plinth
ROC spawnable yet?
turbid plinth
TLDR: not spawnable
pallid temple
No its spawnable, it just takes a while to sync
turbid plinth
TTLLDDRR: If i bought it from the store today, its not spawnable
pallid temple
Basically
Like from when the ROC went up for sale, it took about an hour until I could spawn it in-game
turbid plinth
but you have it
pallid temple
Yeah
sharp urchin
Anyone got a mining profit calculator recommendation, spreadsheet or app?
mental quiver
just to start an open discussion, what do those of you who trade cargo consider a reasonable hourly profit on trading? I do agree that roughly 1mil uec an hour was over the top, but compared to the UEC worth of a hammerhead, 1mil equates to about 57.5$ an hour (excluding 30ks, crashes, griefers). So what I'm wondering is, what is the sweet spot? What is a reasonable amount of uec profit compared to other profitable loops? Does cargo trading need to be nerfed waaaay down or do other loops need to be brought up?
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't bitter about the ships being wiped, but I also wasn't aware that the astatine route was considered an exploit 🤷 should I already know that because a game loop is too profitable it's automatically an exploit?
turbid plinth
My take is that uec/hour is not the problem with trading, but rather how it is independent from other loops atm. Trading needs to be counterbalanced with piracy, escorts etc
1mil per hour was waay too much. But i would honestly be okay if it was a 2 mil profit in 2 hour route. Not the 10-15 min A to B we have now
A 6-7 system jump. Needing escorts to scout the gates
For the braindead hopping experience we have now, 200k/hour is about as good as it should be to not completely crush interest in other things
hollow sedge
is the ROC actually worth it?
hollow sedge
Damn, I might need to buy one thank you @pallid temple
mental quiver
@turbid plinth I appreciate the dialogue. I definitely think 1 loop shouldn't overshadow others, I'm curious though what trading will look like in the future or what other loops will be nearly as lucrative / potential for conflict
celest oracle
So the ROC can't be bought in game right?
noble jetty
Whats the best method to make aUEC in 3.10?
crude basin
Last night I tried to mine some Hadanite nodes I found on a planet surface, they looked small enough to be hand minable but nothing would happen when using the mining tool. Did they make it only the ROC could mine those now?
celest oracle
Did they have a diamond icon?
crude basin
Yes
celest oracle
Try to check somewhere else, they should be mineable in theory. Did not have a chance to try myself
turbid plinth
okay that was dumb
my ROC broke my cutlass's ramp trying to get in
and the cuttie's ramp closes when broken
and cannot be opened
brisk sapphire
im having trouble mining with the hand mining tools have they change it
timber compass
Mining is incredibly broken this update. It's bad enough that about half the rocks are completely unable to be scanned, but then once I mine something there's a chance it will vanish from my hold before I have a chance to sell it. For example, the 18% Quantainium rock I just mined got me 24k aUEC because the game decided to delete 75% of my cargo
mental quiver
looks like Gallog is showing Laranite as the big ticket resource right now at 218k for a full Cat?
celest oracle
does it sell quick?
earnest lion
I've not done cargo before and I've just bought the Cutlass Black, what would be the best way to make UEC? I have just over 200k aUEC right now
mental quiver
@turbid plinth is that your recommendation or is that because people are constantly buying it?
turbid plinth
because its bought out
pliant matrix
Mining is incredibly broken this update. It's bad enough that about half the rocks are completely unable to be scanned, but then once I mine something there's a chance it will vanish from my hold before I have a chance to sell it. For example, the 18% Quantainium rock I just mined got me 24k aUEC because the game decided to delete 75% of my cargo
@timber compass I was considering coming back this update and farm mining then I saw this 🤣 scary
heavy patio
Hi, I have a question. Can two ROCs fit inside the andromeda?
turbid plinth
no
sharp urchin
mental fulcrum
soooo whats the ROC mining car things profit more or less? is it worth it or just a fun side thing ?
proven token
atm its not really worth doing outside of a fun side thing
It takes like 20 minutes to actually spawn it with a ship, load it, and then fly around trying to find a new mineable site
Which it can only mine the new types
Then, you load it up, fly back, and get like 12k UEC for like 40 minutes of your time
terse summit
best trade route for the caterpillar?
delicate phoenix
I'm seeing a trend here lol. No wonder everyone is upset about the cargo changes.
I found a lot of the fun of cargo running was going to all the places and checking prices.
runic scarab
best place to roc mine?
delicate phoenix
Just load up the lancer with a few units of valuable stuff and check all the selling places for the best price
turbid plinth
ROC mining is going to be amazing
right now the extraction tool does not work
the gem deposits are absurd. 1 cluster of hadanite can drop 200+ rocks
absolute murder to pick up by hand as a workaround XD
i gave up after 20 minutes of just picking up rocks. still left half on the ground
once the vacuum works properly, will hit quantanium numbers easy
100-200k per hour
odd nacelle
How is the Prospector now?
I was a big trader with a Cat, but considering switching to mining
turbid plinth
good. asteroid mining is much better than in 3.9
new bugs to learn tho
sometimes the scanner will not scan the rock. the workaround is to initiate warp somewhere and immediately cut
will fix it
odd nacelle
Yeah, shouldn't be a problem, as I didn't mine before
I just want a decent inflow of aUEC so I can buy ships in game
heh
tranquil ibex
@tranquil ibex https://sc-trade.tools
@crimson mantle Thanks for sharing!
crimson mantle
My pleasure!
crimson mantle
It's 3.10 data
narrow saffron
Thank you. now to figure out how to make it show me routes based on the wait times and max stock at any given moment
did they fix it so its actually profitable to trade in a carrack or cat again?
crimson mantle
Ah, well since CIG didn't give us any APIs to hook into I can't display live prices and inventories. This is all based on static data from the game files.
You can definitely profit using a big ship, but you may have to buy cheaper stuff if you want to fill it without waiting around.
narrow saffron
so. diamond runs?
crimson mantle
For profit per distance they are good. You can check the "pure profit" option to compare.
You need to "explore" the data a bit to find the right route for you I feel
dull grove
I just checked that web app @crimson mantle did you make that?
crimson mantle
Yep, that's my pet project
dull grove
right on!
I put in some parameters just now. seems like its sayin that the best route is the ol laranite run, i thought that was axed
i got a gemini to use
crimson mantle
They fixed the infinite supply. Now you must compete for the availability of laranite.
dull grove
selling a large amount at hurston should be ok though?
crimson mantle
You can click "show stock details" to see how much a shop can buy/sell
dull grove
nice tip
crimson mantle
No problem!
Selling is usually fine for legal stuff that's not medical supplies
dull grove
i could probably bounce between bezdek and lathan to load up my ship ya?
quartz laurel
Are there any features planned for players to be able to have their own warp jump locations or beacons they can only see and go too? In Eve Online (when I used to play it many years ago) I would find a mission that has an asteroid belt worth mining and would mark the location and get my best miner out with 3 lasers to mine the entire belt. As the cargo filled I would jettison the cargo out which has a max of 60 minute countdown timer before it disappears. I'd mine the entire asteroid within reach and have approx 6 or 8 jettison cargo just sitting out in space. I would then go back to station and pick up my biggest hauler and pick up all the cargo to deposit at station. Go back into the miner and rinse and repeat until I mined the entire asteroid belt that spawned in the mission.
I would love to be able to mine and jettison the mined cargo and them go back and pick it up with something like the Caterpillar.
The deposited material mined I wouldn't sell but would be sitting in the station, as I also performed manufacturing and bluprint research etc...
timber compass
Pretty sure they have a planned feature to detach the ore pods on the MOLE and Prospector and then they can be picked up by another ship so the mining ship can keep going. Not sure how we're meant to replace the pods once they're detached though
quartz laurel
can a cat hold mined cargo in it's hull? I guess it doesn't matter as it's already in a jettisoned container "bag".
It would give cat's a use for it's tractor beam to lock on and pick up the bag's from space.
In the prospector currently there is 32 SCU max mined cargo which i assume is split between the 4 cargo bags, so in theory that's 8 SCU per bag. The Cat simply stores 8 SCU per bag in it's cargo space until it's full (576 SCU).
languid tusk
Whats the best method to make aUEC in 3.10?
timber compass
Yeah, that seems to me how it would work. Definitely wouldn't be hard to use the tractor beam to pull the pods into the cargo area. I wonder if the Cat would then need to have empty pods on hand to reattach to the miner, or if (since they seem to be "bags" rather than metal pods) the miner would just be able to deploy a new bag on its own
I could see there being a capacity of folded "replacement bags" in the ships that we have to pay to restock, similar to ammo or fuel
And they can just be deployed automatically once the first bags detach
quartz laurel
the miner already has surplus bags as the prospector is meant to have 128 SCU (now changed to 96 SCU) with a set of 4 bags to give it 96 SCU mining capability. Initially the prospector was meant to have 32 SCU per cargo pod and it has 4 pods, but this was changed.
quartz laurel
yea 32 SCU is too little, and I personally don't like having to run back to the station so quickly. They should have stuck with the original 128 SCU and the 4 pods.
you mine 1 rock and you're already foot
timber compass
Yeah
narrow saffron
does anyone know a more lucrative money making thing? im still trying to figure out new routes that will give me the 1mill and hour im used too. i have an org to feed
karmic escarp
no route is going to hit 1mil an hour in this state, at least not with everyone flooding the market
narrow saffron
good thing i still have my trusty old prospector
cloud slate
i believe the reason the prospector was brought down is because the argo mole is 3x prospectors worth of cargo and mining lasers. Sure the 32SCU fills up fast but your also a 1 man mining ship as well. There isnt alot of space to begin with like prospector is approx half the size of a Freelancer @quartz laurel @timber compass
Just my thoughs on the matter, sure its probably smaller than it should ve overall but its alot of mining equipment in general on such small ship frame, its suppose to be a the "first step" into mining as well so i wouldnt expect to much
timber compass
That's fair
cloud slate
Oh also on the Cat tractor beam topic
Yes it will be able to pull in bags but it was also mention it might be used for lifting its own cargo aboard but not sure how well that will work
quartz laurel
I guess the only remaining question now is if we will be able to mark our own locations to be able to fly to and from in space.
cloud slate
I presume eventually
Seems simple to us but im sure theres reasons behind why its not in yet
Sucks cause id love waypoints and marks that only i can see
timber compass
I'd love a way to get back to a huge quantainium cluster if I can't get all of it in one trip
cloud slate
That would be really nice if someone doesnt pinch it first xD
Surely they will add it since its logical to have
sharp urchin
Presumably we might see more functionality like that once they have the building blocks version of the Starmap
grim barn
Anyone wanna go mining in a mole
quartz laurel
Can you solo mine in a mole?
Just part it next to the rock and mine with 1 laser? It's got more SCU storage than a prospector right?
timber compass
It's possible, but I've heard it's a bit tedious
cloud slate
yeah ive done it before but can be annoying
quartz laurel
what's the max mining cargo space on it compared to prospector 32?
cloud slate
@quartz laurel Space is 3x so 96
basically the mole is 3 prospectors in 1
3x the cargo 3x the lasers
if you want to try the mole id be happy to set up a time you can test it out
quartz laurel
I think the argo should have 288 and prospector 96
cloud slate
honestly in atmo the mole gets to aboutt 30% hydrogen fuel by the time its full
quartz laurel
the current numbers are way too low for the amount of time required to actually mine and the UEC earned compared to same time spent in other sectors.
cloud slate
so if you doing attmo mining your gonna need to return to refuel anyway
quartz laurel
That's only because of new atmo and thruster changes.
cloud slate
no that was before the changes
i havent tested the new stuff yet
also mining is very luck based so that doesnt help either imo
quartz laurel
I just wonna get the ROC out and about and give that a try
I've come across a number of spots where you can't mine the rocks with FPS mining any more so you need an ROC>
cloud slate
yeah i wish they allowed us to buy the roc ingame and test it
quartz laurel
Oh I don't mind melting it down later if I don't like it, I just can't spawn it and i don't want to do the account reset thing as you risk loosing all items
cloud slate
you wont loose money just maybe some weapons and armor, and any ingame ships
quartz laurel
yea that's the problem 🙂
cloud slate
you have ingame ships?
quartz laurel
lots of items I'd hate having to grind for again.
cloud slate
cause armor is cheap to replace hahaha
quartz laurel
I like having some sort of persistance
cloud slate
fair enough
earnest lion
Anyone here good at doing cargo hauling? I just got a cutty and would like help with it, I don't know much about how to do it or the best routes. Please DM me
crimson mantle
@earnest lion https://sc-trade.tools
pallid temple
@undone socket You can make a max profit of 220k from the ROC
undone socket
i assume just hadenite yea?
pallid temple
Ya
undone socket
estimated time on makeing full?
pallid temple
Hard to say right now
undone socket
just doing some homework before i spend money
undone socket
seriosly?
undone socket
issues like?
pallid temple
Using the tractor beam on gems causing a significant number of them to vanish
undone socket
any work around?
pallid temple
No
undone socket
as in store in ure back pack then store in roc?
pallid temple
You can't interact with the storage of the ROC
naive maple
We did some Org mining last night, the problem was finding enough mineables to fill it... I was using the scanner on my Prospector and another with his Mole, then other members were transporting the ROCs with Valkyrie and Carrack
undone socket
and how did that work worth it?
naive maple
Not worth it... fun as all hell LOL... not worth it... and the ROC couldn’t pick up ship mineables that were purple for extraction FYI, we tested that as well
undone socket
ok so mining vessel recomended?
naive maple
Learned to DEFINITELY power down the ROC when parked aboard a ship or Boom!
Solo- Prospector, Group - Mole
earnest lion
How long does it take before I can sell Altruciatoxin agian at grim
i could only sell 300 units out of my 2100 although i don't have wait times enabled on the sc trade tools site
crimson mantle
@earnest lion you have to compete with everyone else selling. Click on the "show stock details" to see how fast they buy
The website can't know about current inventory levels since CIG doesn't have APIs to hook into. It's a "best guess" type of thing.
turbid plinth
@naive maple @undone socket i dont know where you have been trying to mine. I have been OVERFLOWING with hadanite on every run ive done. I spent 40mins handpicking 300+ hadanite from one deposit (as a workaround to the broken collector). Game was lagging so hard from hundreds of rocks on the ground
turbid plinth
there is a frankly absurd amount of hadanite lying around. If its not reduced later in a patch the ROC will easily pulling in hundreds of thousands facerolling your keyboard were it not for the broken laser
it is disgustingly good
woeful gazelle
can you scan the deposits with a ship?
turbid plinth
no it usually explodes out in a clump
tried 🤣
it will probably be fixed soon. What remains to be seen is if they nerf the gem spawn
i really cannot emphasize this enough. The spawn rate is soo absurd
No effort to pull in 200k, equivalent to 100% pure quantanium
woeful gazelle
so you picked up 300+ hadanite in 40 minutes which is about 80-90k?
woeful gazelle
well, I guess the picking up by hand really slows you down
turbid plinth
mmhmm. the vaccum would have taken 1 minute
that murders quantanium + agricium mining
woeful gazelle
I guess it's one of the first things that might be worthwhile as a group 😅 someone breaks the rocks, the others pick up the crystals, lol
turbid plinth
just did that today with a group of 4 haha
woeful gazelle
hehe
woeful gazelle
I mean I'd prefer the Prospector I guess
naive maple
@turbid plinth wow, ok cool... we were on Daymar... where are you encountering this overflow of Hadanite?!
turbid plinth
Daymar, Arial, Yela tested
naive maple
@woeful gazelle hi Montis... I keep spreading around your guide!... can’t wait for the ROC update!
woeful gazelle
I don't have the ROC so I can't make a guide on it really, sorry :/
woeful gazelle
that too 🙂
woeful gazelle
space mining seems to be as bugged as ever, even slighty more so as there are a lot more unscannable rocks than before. but I like the new effects and it seems smoother overall, especially the scanning
turbid plinth
space mining is a lot better now. two things:
- Quantaium rocks are now different textured. There are maroon veins all over them
- The unscannable bug can be fixed by initiating QT to a location and immediately cutting
turbid plinth
plus the more reliable scanning
my MO is to fly around to find the maroon rock. If scannable, great. if not deploy the QT workaround
woeful gazelle
on planets?
turbid plinth
space
woeful gazelle
btw anyone try to mine asteroids other than around Yela?
pallid temple
There's the Aaron Halo
turbid plinth
in 2077, yes
woeful gazelle
well, do the astroids there work?
pallid temple
Yeah
woeful gazelle
ah, that's new
sharp urchin
it's quite a travel to get there, and to get somewhere to sell your ore
woeful moss
When did Aaron Halo get fixed? Does it work again?
Asteroids not disappearing there anymore?
ashen garnet
did they change the amount of stock each trade terminal can sell you i have been to multiple stops and can only pick up 9 scu of cargo at each kinda kills the ability to haul cargo
spiral olive
yep
turbid plinth
there 're only a handful of high volume cargo now
titanium, diamond, scrap, chlorine, fluorine
of the top of my head these r the ones i run
ashen garnet
just about ready to give up on this game sigh i have backed since begininng do not like pvp so the only thing i could do i now cannot
chik do you mind me asking what route you use
turbid plinth
whatre you flying, how much capital
heads up. most routes profits r cut by at least a third
many down to 20%
selling anything to Olisar now hurts profits
Oli buys for lower margins due to high volume
ashen garnet
max with a 400000 start up
turbid plinth
Ahh. You wont break 100k/hour in a max anymore 😦
Best route is prob tnm diamond+laranite to lorville, scrap back to PO
Actually what id recommend, and is what big orgs do
Before starting your runs, survey the 4 laranite outposts
2 on wala, 2 on arial
If you get lucky and find a full outpost youll make pre nerf rates
Worth spending half an hour at the start of the day
Dont need to buy, just pull the slider and check stock
ashen garnet
how do i survey them?
fading olive
can you sell SLAM somewhere in 3.10 please?
turbid plinth
@ashen garnet see my last reply
fading olive
FYI, the CRU-L5 SLAM terminal is online again in 3.10 🙂
lusty egret
What websites do y’all use for finding good trade routes
brisk sapphire
anyone else had problem claiming ROC on grounf site
undone socket
is the roc working properly of bugged?
pallid temple
Its bugged @undone socket
undone socket
any idea if they going to fix it soon?
pallid temple
Earlier I broke 4 Hadanite rocks, scooped up the gems with the tractor beam, ended up only collecting 12 gems in total
It's CiG, we have no clue
ornate rock
hey yo cargo folks, can you please deliver me a crate of cruz+ to my room at Everus harbor?
Willing to pay 400% margin
I hope that will work at one point, getting tired of stale water here 
upbeat meadow
did they move the drug lab on Daymar in 3.10?
hollow sedge
Any good places to mine with the ROC? I’m having some bad luck on micro tech
pallid temple
@hollow sedge I've had better luck on Daymar
hollow sedge
@pallid temple thank you, micro tech is beautiful and all but I really want to make some safe money
I’ll check it out rn
hollow sedge
It’s something new
pallid temple
It is something new and I like doing it
hollow sedge
I’m trying to get out of PvP so this is definitely a fun option
pallid temple
There's no denying the fun it can provide
brisk sapphire
@hollow sedge i had fun on Daymar around Dunlow ridge , and found diamonds in 4 s and 5s rock , also when collecting keep it going seems to suck them up evey 10 seconds os so , o7
well thats where it landed
pallid temple
I just hope CiG are busy trying to resolve the issue with the tractor beam
brisk sapphire
i did also go out with rucksack and stowed them
timber compass
I wonder if the tractor beam issue has to do with the bug that sometimes won't give you the option to stow gems
Could be whatever's causing that also won't let the ROC stow them
ornate rock
pretty sure the inability to store stuff is just caused by lag
might still cause the same issues with the tractor
hollow sedge
@upbeat meadow I believe they moved it - been trying to get missions that bring me there but no luck so far.
near flower
i really hope theres a way that these trade route websites can track live how much stock is available on every location
making it easier for us to make routes
upbeat meadow
@hollow sedge yeah they must have or something cause i was looking for like 30 minutes last night and couldnt find it anywhere around where it used to be
sharp urchin
what's the most up to date trading app currently? was trying to use sc-trade.tools but the en-route calculator led me to places that no longer have the things it said it would
gallog doesn't have a whole bunch of the new locations
quartz laurel
there is a frankly absurd amount of hadanite lying around. If its not reduced later in a patch the ROC will easily pulling in hundreds of thousands facerolling your keyboard were it not for the broken laser
@turbid plinth , where 😄
vast summit
I love the additional gem deposites. Always stop to mine em when im looking for the big stuff in my Prospector
placid bridge
So I just got disconnected, and now can no longer change out things on my rental prospector, even in my hangar.
Is this just a temporary thing, or did it like, just get patched out or something?
crimson mantle
@sharp urchin Hi! Sc-trade.tools has the latest 3.10 data, but since it cannot hook into the game servers, no one can know the current inventory levels without being there in-game.
If you want to minimize the risk of arriving at an empty location, you can try the "show stock details" option and filter-out places that replenish too slowly.
sharp urchin
Hmm, it told me that I could buy medical supplies and such on Rayari Kaltag Research Outpost on Calliope, but all it stocked was a multitude of minerals, which were all stocked fine. Its like its selection of resources were changed like some others to fit the needs of ROC mining
quartz laurel
Does Delamar have any FPS minables on it for the ROC??
quartz laurel
flew around Delamar for over an hour in the Carrak scanning and found nothing
disappointing
marsh umbra
does anyone know if prices for mining are all same everywhere or if they implemented economy change, ie different places going for more based on demand
proven token
I have personally not heard of any true economy implementation yet
near flower
@sharp urchin Hi! Sc-trade.tools has the latest 3.10 data, but since it cannot hook into the game servers, no one can know the current inventory levels without being there in-game.
If you want to minimize the risk of arriving at an empty location, you can try the "show stock details" option and filter-out places that replenish too slowly.
@crimson mantle i wonder if these amazing websites used to hook onto the game servers
autumn halo
so trading agricium is better than laranite now?
woeful moss
API hooks would be great so we could make a trading app that pulls prices from official locations in the verse
quartz laurel
or better yet, have those pushed to the in-game market console where players could use that market for remote purchases and trade, like a real economy
near flower
thatd be what, another 3 yrs to implement that shit
near flower
well thanks mr hawkes gaming
now everyone are doing astatine stealing my secret cargo
....
turbid plinth
@quartz laurel found your hadanite yet?
quartz laurel
unfortunately no, spent a few hours and found zero mineables, but i've been rogued with crashes due to memory leak, so i'm pausing playing for the moment until there's a hot patch.
turbid plinth
fair enough
quartz laurel
not sure how u found any on Delamar, there's like nothing on there
turbid plinth
daymar, yela, Arial tested
quartz laurel
oh, I thought you said Delamar not daymar 😄
oh well
at least I can tell you that I found zero minables on Delamar
turbid plinth
good to know 😄
ill probably pop a screenshot here in a few minutes of the facemelting amount of hadanite
my PC was dying
quartz laurel
must have been the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, in this case pot of hadanite 😄
I did hear a rumor if you have Pico in your Co-pilot it increases your Luck %
quartz laurel
How do u know how much fuel u have on your ROC ?
pallid temple
Ground vehicles don't need fuel
quartz laurel
Also is there ay way to unflip your ROC 😩
pallid temple
Turn off your engines
quartz laurel
?
pallid temple
As in press i
nova dagger
With ROC are the only minable rocks less than 1 kg MASS like its taking forever to fill after 1-2 hour i managed to fill 4% for profit of 21k AUEC, after mined 16 mineral rocks
pallid temple
There's an issue with the ROC's tractor beam right now @nova dagger
The tractor beam causes a significant number of gems it collects to vanish
nova dagger
aha, alrighty didnt knew about that
pallid temple
So its hard to make any sort of timings on how long it takes to fill
crimson mantle
@near flower it would very nice indeed, but at the moment no one can. It's all purely internal to the game's servers and not exposed. Maybe in the future, who knows.
quartz laurel
Soooo after mining some hadinite with roc. I got stuck and flipped unside down. Couldnt get it back on all 4s. Decided to use my ship to nudge it back upright. No luc and it blew up.
Now all the mined hadanite turned back from gems to hadanite rock to mine again....
Well it wasnt all of it... just 4 rocks but i mined at least 4 different locations with 6 or 7 rocks with it before i got stuck
hollow sedge
anyone with a mole get stuck in a turret? Example: cannot move the turret, cannot fire mining lasers, and cannot exit the turret?
if so, please upvote: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/community/issue-council/star-citizen-alpha-3/STARC-125768-Argo_Mole_Center_Mining_Turret_Inoperable_Upon_Entering__Cannot_Mine_Nor_Exit_
quartz laurel
💤
After several attempts today to mine some rocks with a ROC, total payout (profit) or anything earned today = 0. I've just been unlucky. The last load of hadinite I had in the ROC is 90% gone, with a few pieces I managed to FPS mine again from the weird explosion left behind from the ROC, and stored on the ship. Sadly that didn't end well either 🤣 game crashed, but I managed to reconnect back to the same instance, only to respawn on the surface which was great for 2 seconds before realizing I fell though the planet 🤣
0 UEC earned today
Life of a miner
turbid plinth
F
quartz laurel
how much does hadanite sell for anyway?
quartz laurel
is dolivine any good?
130
not bad
bugger ROC stuck upside down again
if only u could flip it back upwards
quartz laurel
The ROC is definitely not picking up all the hadinite or dolivine. I see a lot more of individual gems on the ground and when they're collected there's is only 20 in the cargo vs the 100ish that were picked up
finally made some UEC mining with ROC, but due to the collector not picking up all the gems from the ground into the cargo, there is a large %age loss.
pallid temple
Yeah there's an issue with the ROC's tractor beam not picking up all the gems @quartz laurel Its a known issue
final raven
the ROC sounds like a gem 😂
i will definitely pass until it is fixed and proven to be a good alternative
pallid temple
Its a good alternative, it just takes a lot longer to fill up
If its full of Hadanite, you can sell that Hadanite for 220k
quartz laurel
visually they get sucked into the collector
celest oracle
Managed to sell 1k widow in less than 6h, 2k left to free my freelancer from its prison and actually play the game 🤦🏻♂️ Don't be stupid like me, avoid getting 4k units of widow
languid pilot
anyone know where i can sell medical supplies all at once?
i've just bought like 16 SCU, but can't sell it at yela because that will take like hours to sell
obtuse sundial
Are there some small rocks on planets now that can only be mined by the ROC and can't be mined by the hand mining tool?
pallid temple
Yes
rough mica
I’ve never really mined, so do you think the ROC would be a good start?
pallid temple
@rough mica With the issue it has, not right now
rough mica
Ok thank you.
turbid plinth
@rough mica @pallid temple i would disagree. If you dont own a prospector or a large cargo ship the ROC is the most affordable moneymaker at 55$
you can pull between 50-100k an hour. you just have to pick up the hadanite by hand
as a workaround to the broken collector
it's backbreaking work ngl but you're making as much as a agricium hauling prospector would
And ofc a patch or two from now it will be fixed and then things will be way better
hard moon
where is the best place right now for ROC mining?
turbid plinth
Daymar
hard moon
which mineral?
turbid plinth
Hadanite
hard moon
👍 thanks
turbid plinth
7 hadanite rock cluster. 30-40 gems each
insaane amount of hadanite
PC was dying. it derendered the ground texture 😄
livid verge
The stow by hand delay each time is such a drag tho XD
turbid plinth
we still pulled 120k for an hour's work. cant argue with that
Probably not the healthiest activity for your sanity long term tho XD
livid verge
I try to search for gems in areas where i get to see the sunrise/sunsets each time , makes it worth it for me \o/
rough mica
@turbid plinth Can I purchase the ROC in game?
lethal kayak
no
rigid tangle
is there a link?
mossy canyon
A link to what? That diagram shows what ore is found on each planet.
rigid tangle
yes but its not the best quality
mossy canyon
Not sure why... looks clean to me. That was given to me by someone here I think.
quartz laurel
as a workaround to the broken collector
@turbid plinth , do you store it manually inside the ROC, or how does it work??
The novak armor or w/e it's called is broken and doesn't allow any stow. The other armor I have can only stop 10 units and wont pick up any more for some reason, even though it has 40k storage.
lethal kayak
The Maxi Flex(?) ...the yellow armor is broken and stores 500 units right now. use that
lethal kayak
That's the Novikov/Pennbroke.. .talking about the shittier armor from P.O.
hollow sedge
Bummer that the roc, which is supposed to be an in-between mining tool progression-wise, isn't buyable through uec yet
Rather defeats the purpose
quartz laurel
give it time, it's only been released.
@lethal kayak , i'm not sure why you can't store anything in the Novikov armor (undersuit) because it has 130K storage capacity
unless that part hasn't been implemented yet?
lethal kayak
Novikov/Penbroke are ... broken.. the Max (yellow) smaller one is also broken..but in a good way..now has 500k+ storage for some stupid reason, so use that
burnt echo
quick question - I've only tried 3.10 LIVE twice so far, but on both occasions mining in the yela belt was going wrong. I could scan / detect rocks - but I couldn't scan to find out composition of rock or mine them - was this just a quirk of the servers (EU) I was on - or is this a wider issues that others have experienced? Mining on Yela moon worked perfectly well, so speculating the issue was limited to asteroid belts.
quartz laurel
why is there such a delay in picking up the FPS mineables.
rough void
It simulates the time the character needs to put it into the backpack. and yes, it's stupid.
quartz laurel
it's longer than the animation though
hopefully in the future it's limited to the time it takes just for the animation
white cairn
It’s because you need to wait for the server to allow you to do it
it’s the same with most kinds of interactions and why it feels sluggish at most times
quartz laurel
that stuff should be client side, and send updates to server appropriately etc
i donno...
wintry ether
I´ve been trying to haul different materials in the last 2 days and i couldnt manage to fill up the cat in one place 😦 commodities are superlow everywhere now and reload/resupply takes forever or doesnt work at all. Anyone else tried hauling in Caterpillar these days?
turbid plinth
you have about 200k an hour max now
haul titanium or diamond
the simplest is diamond + lara from tram to Lorville, then scrap to PO for return trip
wintry ether
Tram. you mean pvp/griefer hell? 😄
turbid plinth
das right 😄
before you start your runs, survey the 4 laranite locations
arial and wala
just check if you get lucky and find an full outpost
half an hour at the start of the day. dont need to buy just pull the slider to see the capacity
if you find a good load then obv buy asap and sell
mossy spruce
anyone selling their mined prison merits?
paying 1 million auec every 10,000 merits
quartz laurel
warbond u get LTI
blissful rain
A link to what? That diagram shows what ore is found on each planet.
@mossy canyon That sof r3.9 though
lethal kayak
@blissful rain still holds up. Quantanium is most profound around GHex asteroid belt ...whereas other elements are still rather the same... only difference 3.10 is the way the scanning is working and also draw-distance... it's a helluva lot easier to actually see the asteroids/rocks now.
tiny ridge
blissful rain
What can the roc pick up?
blissful rain
AHH okay so not that profitable
pallid temple
....No its profitable
turbid plinth
Its stupid profitable
blissful rain
How much?
pallid temple
You can make 220k from it
pallid temple
It holds 800 of the gems
blissful rain
Seriously?
turbid plinth
275 per gem, 800 gems
pallid temple
That's if you collect Hadanite
turbid plinth
You can find clusters of 300-400 at once
That supposed to take 10 minutes to crack and collect
turbid plinth
Plus the flying and scanning, 20 mins
pallid temple
On any moon/planet
turbid plinth
Daymar, yela, arial all tested
pallid temple
I've had better luck for Hadanite on Daymar
quartz laurel
errrrrrrrr..... who's idea was it to create a cabin with open sides. Common now....
pallid temple
@blissful rain You can spawn it on any moon that has an outpost with a blue Platinum Bay building
blissful rain
cool, is there one in daymer? i hate spawening vehicles in the plaent cities
do i need to buy a better mining head for the roc or is the stock one fine?
and what gems should i look out for?
pallid temple
You can't swap out the mining laser on the ROC
blissful rain
so once i collected some gems on roc and parked in my cutty, once i land in say, NB with the roc inside my cutty,
does teh refinery machine in NB see the roc and let me make a sale?
or do i need to go into a specific vehicle pad and "store" the roc vehicle?
basically what happens if i leave my roc inside a ship that is in a landing pad?
and what would happen fi i "store" that ship?
blissful rain
so what do i do?
pallid temple
You can land at the Commons, and sell the stuff from the trading terminal there
blissful rain
where is that near? is it near spaceport?
pallid temple
Its in the city
north oyster
The Commons are the round buildings near the shore of the lake across from the space port, right next to the tubes. I've not tried to land there yet, but if I ever mine on MircoTech, that'll be the path I'll take
blissful rain
what is the name of the material i can mine on the roc? i am in a moon now and duno what to look out for?
pallid temple
When you're looking for minerals, you're looking for a Diamond icon
And there'll be rocks called either Aphorite, Dolivine or Hadanite
@blissful rain Actually do you want me to hop in-game and help you with it? It'll be a lot easier
blissful rain
found some but i dont think its coollecting it properly? i collected some doilvine and the cargo capacity is still empty lol.
pallid temple
There's an issue where using the tractor beam causing a significant number of gems to vanish
blissful rain
ahh wait i think i need to stow them in a backpack?
pallid temple
That's the workaround yeah
I think that MacFlex rucksack now has the capacity for 500 gems
blissful rain
Thanks for the info. i guess roc mining is broken?
or can u sometimes pick up the gems?
pallid temple
@blissful rain Best thing you can do right now is break the rock and then manually pick up the gems
pallid temple
Basically
blissful rain
Cool
pallid temple
But I would like the record to reflect that the friction of the wheels and the random opening of the cabin door gives me some anxiety that reminds me of the days when I had a Titan
ivory bluff
i wonder how much money can you make in an hour with the roc+rucksack?
pallid temple
Well each ROC drops either 20 or 40 gems
ivory bluff
how much are the gems worth? i'm not that experienced with mining
pallid temple
If you're looking for profit, you're collecting Hadanite gems
Which sell for 275 aUEC per gem
ivory bluff
ok, cool
and what's the capacity of the roc?
if it would pick up the gems correctly
pallid temple
The ROC can hold 800 gems
ivory bluff
alright
pallid temple
A full ROC of Hadanite is worth 220k aUEC
ivory bluff
yea i just did the math
and you can probably combo the roc capacity with the rucksack later down the road to carry even more gems, right? maybe it's too time consuming to pick the gems manually, but anyways
pallid temple
I mean you'll eventually be able to transfer the gems from the ROC into the ship's storage
ivory bluff
ah, well that's nice
pallid temple
The interaction for the ROC's cargo bay is already there, its just not used right now
ivory bluff
hmm okay. i wonder if the mined cargo will eventually appear in a physical form inside the ship? so you might have to leave the roc behind if you fill your cargo with the mined stuff
pallid temple
That is a point
blissful rain
A full ROC of Hadanite is worth 220k aUEC
@pallid temple how much do the other gems sell for?
pallid temple
Aphorite is 152.5 aUEC per gem and Dolivine is 130 aUEC per gem
pallid temple
Basically
hollow sedge
trying out the ROC for the first time in Yela. Couldn't stow minerals by hand. I was wearing the pembroke armor that has its own backpack. Do i need to use the rucksack instead?
pallid temple
@hollow sedge Currently neither the Pembroke or Novikok have any storage capacity for some reason, so your best bet now is to use the MacFlex rucksack
hollow sedge
@pallid temple ok thank you!
I attempted to retrieve the ROC in Yela but was not able to. I walk back out and my ship is doing this:
😦
crude basin
looks like you didn't put your landing gear down
hollow sedge
Im stuck in the ROC, i cannot exit nor turn off/on 😦
brisk sapphire
iv had no pronlem with the collecting laser , i just keep it on and move around the crystals
pallid temple
The tractor beam works in VFX, but it still makes gems vanish
turbid plinth
Basically the laser can only store 1 gem/tick rn. And when you scoop its scooping dozens at a time
So only 1 gem is saved. The rest vanish
ivory bluff
do you know how long is the tick?
the hand collecting got boring quickly
i think i'd rather try being patient with the beam if that works
smoky lodge
Wtf
turbid plinth
Brokennes
smoky lodge
Wish I new that cause I dropped 10k on it
ivory bluff
does anyone know if there's a way to fix the bug where you're stuck inside roc?
pallid temple
Go to main menu
ivory bluff
mm yea. spawned at the station tho :/
quartz laurel
I mean you'll eventually be able to transfer the gems from the ROC into the ship's storage
@pallid temple , you can transfer personal inventory to the cargo space, which is nice and i've been doing this. Manually pick up the gems then when full go to cargo and drop into a box.
It is time consuming but it does work better than using the ROC collector that misses 90% of the gems.
Im stuck in the ROC, i cannot exit nor turn off/on 😦
@hollow sedge , this happened to me as well last night but it happened when I walked right through a closed door when I got inside the ROC. Basically the door didn't open and the guy went right through and set down. No buttons worked inside the ROC and also the Y to exit didn't work either. I couldn't even suicide with backspace.
This happened only once and only when it was on the vehicle landing pad.
Lol we really need a way to unflip the ROC, it's painful to watch it spin endlessly in circles 😄
hollow sedge
I couldn't really mine today. my attempts in the Mole and the ROC have failed. Reverted to bounty hunter PVE missions.
Mole: Turrets wouldn't turn on and I would get stuck in them. ROC: Couldn't turn on and stuck as well. Really odd!
hollow sedge
If you're having problems with powering on the ROC and/or exiting, please contribute: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/community/issue-council/star-citizen-alpha-3/STARC-126039-Greycat_ROC__Does_not_turn_on__cannot_eject__cannot_self_terminate_
quartz laurel
done
runic scarab
What's the capacity of the rucksack when compared to the roc? I know the roc is .8 scu, but how's that convert to whatever unit the rucksack has 500 of?
proven token
Everything is bugged
unique lion
rucksack is fine
I was using it earlier today. shoved 156 hadanite into it
only 20% full
quartz laurel
60k is 0.06 SCU right?
so 1 SCU is 1,000,000 ?
the rucksack has 60k so should be 0.06 SCU and ROC is 0.8 SCU so 800k
1 gem takes 1k storage
the rucksack is broken and gives 500k at present or 0.5 SCU
At least it's a temp work around for the broken ROC collector, the downside is manual labor to pick up each gem.
It's almost like they knew 😛
runic scarab
Using bugs to address bugs is some real big brain shit
quartz laurel
adapt to the situation.
hollow sedge
Always been kinda curious
What purpose do the extra lasers on the Mole have? Like, how does that work in practice
Is everyone focusing on the same rock
What I know of mining is single pieces scattered around so I can't immediately think of a scenario using all three lasers is useful for
But I've never really gone mining so I'm wondering what it is I'm missing ;P
subtle socket
if you find like a rock field, each person can focus on different rocks, but like, if you didn't upgrade the lasers then they can work as a team to mine harder rocks.
hollow sedge
So you're working faster that way basically? Hover in a field and have your three crew on the turrets mining up separate rocks?
Cool
How often is that like, a practical scenario
And ofc I imagine beyond that the other advantage of the mole is all that extra storage for the stuff you pick up lol
subtle socket
I dont even have 3 friends to man all the stations so.
ivory bluff
have you found hadanite on anywhere else than daymar?
went through crusader's moons and now searching around hurston
oh yeah yela had some too, but the weather made it hard to mine
magda seems to have some
nvm, i mean arial
subtle socket
hey anyone do any asteroid mining? iv never had a go at it and im getting sick of wind tbh
brisk sapphire
just had my ROC fall apart and lost cargo in cutlass hold lol
willow crescent
rucksack is fine
@unique lion Rucksake real capacity is 100K. So it's bugged
pallid temple
Its kinda weird
Actually no the real capacity of the MacFlex Rucksack is 60k
And then the environment suits are supposed to have 130k
willow crescent
so 1 SCU is 1,000,000 ?
@quartz laurel 1 SCU is 1000 units. Each gem is 0.01Scu, so 0.8 is 800 Gems or units
Actually no the real capacity of the MacFlex Rucksack is 60k
@pallid temple err maybe, now i cant remember lol. But basicily it's not 500k lol
willow crescent
I know what the capacities are
@pallid temple look at teh quote. reply not for you
pallid temple
And I don't know what you're going on about because 1SCU is made up of 100 centiSCU, and in turn, 1 million storage points (Which is the capacities that rucksacks are measured in) makes up 1SCU
willow crescent
1 SCU is 1000 units or anything, and not 1 million
pallid temple
Yeah its not really represented in-game as well as it should be
willow crescent
on comodities it is
pallid temple
Even on trading terminals its not
willow crescent
it fails 1 unit sometimes, but thats bugged cargo grid or you have a bottle laying around somewhere
Even on trading terminals its not
@pallid temple no it rounds up, but when filled up takes exact number
it takes the correct amount of units but it rounds up when showing the SCU value
pallid temple
Interesting
willow crescent
so 4599 units, it indicates 46 SCU
but the amount inside is correct, it's just the display
pallid temple
Ah so its just the displays are are buggered essentially
quartz laurel
100 units doesn't represent the storage in packs ie personal inventory space ie 10k, 40k, 60k, 140k, etc...
pallid temple
Yeah
When you're looking at personal inventory, that's measured in storage points, or microSCU
pallid temple
Yes
willow crescent
500k sack takes 500 units (gems) wich means each gem is 0.01 scu
which means the sack is 0,5
pallid temple
10,000 microSCU or Storage Point makes up 1 centiSCU
So 10 gems makes up a singular centiSCU
100 centiSCU, makes up 1 SCU
1 gem is 1k microSCU
willow crescent
0.8 Scu of the Roc takes 800 gems, which means each gem is 0.01 Scu so yes
so 1 SCU is 1,000,000 micro SCU
@quartz laurel you said 1 scu was 1000000 units
which is not
pallid temple
When you say units in that context, it means 1 million microSCU
willow crescent
no
pallid temple
...
pallid temple
....45600 units makes up 456 SCU
willow crescent
yes
pallid temple
We could go on and on all day but there's really no point
willow crescent
i can, altough you are right, you are taking a measure on something that doesnt exist. Microscu. It doest really matter to a player when that measure do not appear in game.
Wahst important is how many units of something you can transport and how much that represent in game, and store units or cubic units, as you already might have seen, it's volume (or it will be someday).
so you can take 800 gems in a 0.8 Scu cargo hold, or if ti is a bugged Rucksack that has 500 K space, takes 500 gems which means it has a 0,5 Scu space available which means that each gems ocupies 0.01 Scu
to dummies
pallid temple
Effectively
But there's no real point in trying to debate it, because it'll more than likely change in the future
willow crescent
yep . But players with doubts of the current state, thats how they need to do the math. Not in micro or whatever which is not represented in the game
lunch now!
ivory bluff
ok, so mining hadanite with the roc and using the hand picking method = 80k/hour
could probably do 100k/hour if you fill your rucksack before selling
and im guessing, with a friend or two, that would make things a lot faster
pallid temple
Yeup
ivory bluff
hand picking takes like at least 80% of the time
and daymar seems to be the best place
pallid temple
Yeah Daymar's the best for Hadanite
Although I've been informed that Arial is decent as well
ivory bluff
arial had a brutal weather, tried it as well
im not sure if you could avoid the extreme temps by going during daytime/nighttime on those places
quartz laurel
lol @willow crescent , stop repeating what i said 😄
pallid temple
You can't avoid it
sharp urchin
I have a query, is the supply rate/refresh rate of trade terminals global to a region, or unique per server instance?
pallid temple
Its global
blissful rain
DOes it work now?
on 3.10 that is?
it diddnt on 3.9.1
the prices stayed the same
so did the stock
sharp urchin
it's global to the world, or global to each region, EU etc
ornate rock
used to be regional, so region hopping should still work with trading
crimson mantle
stock definitely is shared correctly now
sharp urchin
I've had moments where switching server seemed to let me sell my cargo again, i'm wondering if thats due to some sort of server desync or just placebo?
crimson mantle
shops refresh part of their inventory every minute
so sometimes by the time you switch you can sell a bit again
sharp urchin
Oh, i mean being able to sell a fair bit more, like selling a hundred units then switching server to sell another hundred units straight away
after sitting and trying to sell it there for a while
crimson mantle
well, some places refresh thousand of units at a time, it all depends on the shop size
but who knows how the servers work! maybe switching does help in some mysterious ways
sharp urchin
i'm now wondering if it's part of the greater server issues that seem to be occuring, delayed mobiglass actions, perhaps the servers are delayed in applying the trades and refreshes
hollow sedge
best way to improve visibility in the caves?
the head torch sucks and without it you cant see anything
sharp urchin
you can have a flare/glowstick activated on your leg as well as the helmet light
hollow sedge
oo will check it out thanks
sharp urchin
so the glowstick gives you ambient light without dropping it
hollow sedge
yeah man i cant see shit xD
sharp urchin
you need to angle down with the interaction menu to where the glowstick is on your leg, should have an option to Activate
sharp urchin
Just pretend like the walls and floor will eat you if you go near them
sharp urchin
very useful to have, but not a lot of options for it, Cutlass Red is basically it. Unless you've forked out for the Carrack or 890 jump
crude basin
I was crawling through a tunnel in a cave and I got pulled into the geometry even though I was going down the middle, had to finesse my way back out to escape
lofty frigate
new to the game and managed to do enough missions / mine enough to afford to rent a constellation for a day. I went to jumptown because I read that the profit in trading is awesome, spent basically my entire rent time looking for the place (even watched multiple videos), I finally find it, buy the goods, and then get blown up on my way to grim hex. Constellation rent time is over in an hour and I have 2 aUEC. Is there any way to recoup what was lost?
pallid temple
No
lofty frigate
Oh. Well then... that was a huge waste of time lol thought I was well on my path to getting a new ship. Thanks for the info!
crimson mantle
Trading from drug labs is pretty risky. You can consider https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes next time you have the funds to trade.
Alternatively, rent a prospector and mine next time you have some funds: if you blow up you don't lose any investment.
lofty frigate
I used that exact site. I entered constellation and input like 123,000 UEC. It told me to trade some drug that started with an A. And I got enough to rent the constellation and invest by renting the prospector. Between all the 30k's, random crashes, playable areas not loading-- it was a long process to build up to where I was at before I got blown up.
crimson mantle
Ah ok. I do plan to add a "risk level" to locations at some point soon, so people can make more informed choices.
lofty frigate
I mean, I played games like rust, last oasis, atlas, etc. but when people kill you in those games there's typically something in it for them. I haven't killed anyone in this game with my aurora or rented prospector/constellation, but I don't think there's much to gain outside of making sure someone else isn't having a good time.
crimson mantle
That's right, it's mostly "griefers" for now.
A quick tip: if you drop-off of a surveillance zone (the satellite icon), that means that people can shoot you down without getting flagged as a criminal.
blissful rain
stock definitely is shared correctly now
@crimson mantle it seems like it.no more agricum of laranite exploit
The prices don't change yet?
crimson mantle
They do seem to change too, depending on how stocked the shops are.
sc-trade.tools only reports the "most optimistic profit to be made" at the moment. Even player-submitted prices would become obsolete after 1 minute, which is why I don't see the value of them for now.
blissful rain
That's how it should be
It shouldn't be static
Is it linked to there tool called quantum?
crimson mantle
oh boy no, at least not yet
let me show you
it's a simple curve depending on how much supply is left
even quantum i think will be more to generate missions and pirate hotspots, but the shops might not change all that much.
odd nacelle
If I "overmine" my SCU capacity
Does the prospector automatically jettison inert material?
No right?
crimson mantle
the eject is only for unstable quantanium at the moment
silent ivy
i flipped a ROC a few hours ago, switched servers and now it shows up as Retrievable at daymar's plat bay but wont spawn, also cant claim insurance, wat do guys?
turbid plinth
@silent ivy as phantom said, right now if you leave a vehicle on a moon, retrieving it from the same moon will bug out (says retrieve and nothing happens)
fix is to head to another moon
flint whale
Anyone in a mole and needs 2 lasers or a pilot?
dense forge
When hauling cargo in a cat, can you protect yourself from 30k by logging out and back in from the bed or does even lying down in bed update the spawn point so you go back there when u log in?
celest oracle
It's called max rucksack something
pallid temple
The MacFlex Core Rucksack
celest oracle
Same as what I said 😬
smoky lodge
thanks
weary cypress
If anyone with a mole and needs 2 miner/pilot, dm me 
silent ivy
@turbid plinth @ivory bluff that did work, thanks guys! it had to be another planet, couldnt be another outpost on same planet, like suggested
lethal kayak
PTU notes:
Fixed an issue that was causing the Greycat ROC to not pick up every mined gem with the tractor beam.
pallid temple
Yep, I'd say its fixed
hollow hill
I got a Mole. I upgraded my Prospector for it. I love my Mole. But I also want a Prospector. Worth having both?
kind yoke
with both a mole and proapector u might as well buy a orion
u get a prospector and mole as loaner
mossy canyon
I own both atm... not sure if I’ll keep the prospector for the long term, but for now I’m keeping it.
kind yoke
and btw if you currently own a mole i think u may want to earn the prospector in game if u hesitant to spend the dollar
quartz laurel
Exciting!
mossy canyon
That is good news! Is that live or PTU?
quartz laurel
ptu
glad furnace
what surface outposts tend to have ROC minables nearby for easy mining with it?
quartz laurel
Definitely not Delamar, i spent several hours looking and found nothing
unique lion
Anywhere but main bodied planets, and Delamar, since it has levski
I can confirm that I found a patch with 312 hadanite near mining area 141 on Daymar however
But any moon should have mineable
quartz laurel
Is the patch of these rocks always in the same spot? Do they respawn after x time?
glad furnace
also, is scooping up a ton of gems and the ROC still reading 0% full a bug or is the cargo capacity that big?
Like a long mining session never got me above 5%
pallid temple
Did you do that in Live? @glad furnace
blissful rain
Try ptu
pallid temple
Yeah it works in the PTU as intended
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/559511616723484672/742672144772628500/unknown-18.png
Proof if you ever needed it
blissful rain
Easy to find?
blissful rain
nice, does thr roc have a scanner itself?
blissful rain
from finding the gems to landing an driving there with ya roc to going to the trading console
ahh ok
just seeing if its possible to make 500k in hour mining gems
pallid temple
If you're efficient, probably
But this thing holds 800 gems, if you're collecting Hadanite you can sell that for 220k
blissful rain
the larranite cargo runs seem no more explits
turbid plinth
Ooo im excited for the ROC fix
i bought two just to run crews
thats gonna be 3.10 for me i feel
pallid temple
And you can actually make decent money with the ROC
warm river
yeah from that screenshot you sent it looks like a great money maker
sick hearth
I have 2 roc let’s hope they squeeze into the Connie
Wait , is it 2 roc’s or 2 roc ?
They need slightly more height and less width . A after market lift kit should do the trick
pallid temple
2 ROCs
lofty crest
when can i put my "im riding with jesus" sticker on my ROC?
pallid temple
Funny of you to assume religion might still be a thing in 2950
lofty crest
or "baby on board"?
ornate rock
religion still exists within the UEE
tired sapphire
Hmm anyone having issues with the Mining Kiosks not paying?
lethal kayak
It's not that, mobi glass (bottom right) isnt updating correctly, the top left one showing UEC is though
smoky olive
Anyone know where the best place to mine is?
warm river
with what?
if you have a ROC daymar is a good place
got like 80k worth of hadanite and dolivine in about half an hour
jagged bridge
i've had a lot of luck on daymar with the ROC as well.
nova dagger
The patch is not yet on Live the fix for roc right ?, so all of you saying roc is fixed, you are actualy playing him on PTU right ?
pallid temple
Yes
warm river
yep the ROC on the ptu makes so much money
quartz laurel
I suspect the price of the gems will decrease once this goes live.
pallid temple
It probably won't
quartz laurel
or trade terminals will be limited to purchase qty.
dynamic markets and all that good jazz
crimson mantle
Some places buy dolivine at 1k units/min
https://sc-trade.tools/best-buyer
The entire player base won't make a dent!
Port Olisar and the cities buy it at 5k units/min.
I think ROC mining is safe for now.
quartz laurel
I don't think those work
nvm i misunderstood the 1k/min
thought that meant minimum, rather than per minute.
crimson mantle
yeah, edited for clarity
strange tulip
Hey all, if i rent a prospector for 1 day it would be available for 24hrs right?
not like the end of the day or suhin stupid
lime bluff
Yeah 24 hrs
strange tulip
perfect cheers mate
gaunt flare
Hello, i have a question regarding Mining, i'd like to know if it's possible to rent a prospector, buy another mining head, and use it on the rented prospector ? And what happens at the end of the rental period, do i loose anything equipped on the rented prospector ? Thanks 🙂
gaunt flare
Allright, thanks 🙂
crimson mantle
You can still make quite a bit of money with the default head
gaunt flare
I'll give it a try anyways 🙂
woeful gazelle
@gaunt flare there were two workarounds before 3.10 with which rentals could be modified. unsure if those still work as I don't usually rent ships. also no guarantee that you'd lose the different laser, but better unequip it before the rental period expires.
- while flying the ship open the vehicle loadout manager, then wait until the ship is loaded without selecting anything. you should be able to change the equipment on the fly (literally)
- use the hangar module from the main menu and change the ship's loadout there
gaunt flare
Oh, nice to know @woeful gazelle , i'll check that, thanks !
lethal kayak
Oh, nice to know @woeful gazelle , i'll check that, thanks !
@gaunt flare u can loose said mining head if u do not un-equip it before reclaiming the prospector if u crash (or reclaiming it in general) or logging out ... always un-equip it when ur done.
kind yoke
which moon in 3.10 is best for mining non quantanium ? is it still yela ?
pure grove
Yela
sick hearth
Your going mining ? Are the servers fixed ?
lethal kayak
u still get money deposited when u sell ore, just doesnt show immediately. As for if it's gonna stay... then dunno... maybe not
oblique sedge
That’s right. I had 160k cash flip down to zero. Did a yela mining run for 80k and balance still showed as zero. Logged in this morning and had 240k. Still can’t buy anything though!
woeful gazelle
well, the UEC in the bottom right of the mobi glass is bugged and only updates when you re-log
the one in the "home" window of the mobi glass is always up to date
turbid plinth
yea the money is still being added and deducted. just not showing up ingame
pallid temple
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/512274236208054281/743071238293028864/VehicleMineablesA.png
New venn diagram chart for Greycat ROC mineables
