sand moth Jul 14, 2020, 6:00 PM

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Can't really complain that you are hauling cargo in a game if you choose to do it

tame elbow Jul 14, 2020, 6:01 PM

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that's when it'll interest me

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right now it doesn't at all

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right now its boring

hollow sedge Jul 14, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Ofc doing all this will make places like tram completely pointless. No one will ever go there with no security. It would be stupid

sand moth Jul 14, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Well that's where player trading comes in right? Pay someone security detail.

tame elbow Jul 14, 2020, 6:02 PM

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here's another fact that may surprise you then

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armistice zones are going to be removed when the law system is properly expanded

turbid plinth Jul 14, 2020, 6:02 PM

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@tame elbow that design doc...i smell some SC 2.0 bullshittery haha

tame elbow Jul 14, 2020, 6:03 PM

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yeah

hollow sedge Jul 14, 2020, 6:03 PM

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If that ever happens, that requires security responses.. which we dont have now

tame elbow Jul 14, 2020, 6:03 PM

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it's subject to change*

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but this is the most information we have on their planned gameplay

sand moth Jul 14, 2020, 6:03 PM

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Yeah there will be sec at some point. I'm sure there will be an awkward phase where there will be annoying exploits because some features are missing.

turbid plinth Jul 14, 2020, 6:03 PM

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get a group of friends. Pool a combined security fee for a couple of guys to protec you

hollow sedge Jul 14, 2020, 6:04 PM

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Eh, which falls apart to a couple griefers in talis or eclipse..

turbid plinth Jul 14, 2020, 6:05 PM

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nowhere is safe from torpedoes atm. because the countermeasures are not in place

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in fact if you run in a convoy a few are likely to get through

hollow sedge Jul 14, 2020, 6:06 PM

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Does... Does anyone actually have fun with that kind of thing?
Spending 30 minutes loading up your ship

turbid plinth Jul 14, 2020, 6:06 PM

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if it wasnt a janky 30k mess and the $$$ made up for it, yea

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its Minecraft

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its tedious now because you're running the server crash gauntlet, your ship can randomly kill you etc.

tame elbow Jul 14, 2020, 6:07 PM

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Does... Does anyone actually have fun with that kind of thing?
Spending 30 minutes loading up your ship
@hollow sedge could be relaxing, sure

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30 minutes is too much damn time

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but I'm one of those weirdos who enjoys Viscera Cleanup Detail

hollow sedge Jul 14, 2020, 6:08 PM

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Gonna be regretting my purchase if SC leans that heavy on sim lol

turbid plinth Jul 14, 2020, 6:08 PM

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i have NEVER heard a complaint related to a task in SC that took a while to complete, based on time alone

sand moth Jul 14, 2020, 6:08 PM

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I had decent luck turning my 50k in 200k with smaller cargo runs. I risked all my aUEC each run until that point with vice though.

turbid plinth Jul 14, 2020, 6:08 PM

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its always because after 20 mins of effort a bug fucks you

tame elbow Jul 14, 2020, 6:08 PM

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which is a game where you literally virtually mop and pick up trash

hollow sedge Jul 14, 2020, 6:08 PM

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I've played it's cool actually

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Wrong of me to imply nobody could enjoy that kind of gameplay

sand moth Jul 14, 2020, 6:09 PM

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Last time I played the bugs kept killing my or my ship so cargo was impossible. It seems a little more stable now.

hollow sedge Jul 14, 2020, 6:10 PM

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The one that always kills me is package delivery

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I've finished two runs successfully

sand moth Jul 14, 2020, 6:10 PM

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Yeah, packages were falling through my floor last time. The run I did recently was ok but i'd rather do normal cargo runs.

tame elbow Jul 14, 2020, 6:11 PM

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tbh they need to overhaul the networking before they make us put boxes into ships ourselves

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anything else would be a horrible buggy mistake

hollow sedge Jul 14, 2020, 6:12 PM

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Packages uncoupling from destinations, covalex boxes not giving or taking the packages.. bleh

turbid plinth Jul 14, 2020, 6:12 PM

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yep. Bugs

hollow sedge Jul 14, 2020, 6:12 PM

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I am just waiting for SC to get to the point where the game is so unplayable because they keep adding shit and ingoring the bugs that they either stop making new things and set aside a year for bugfixes or they give up outright because its too broken

turbid plinth Jul 14, 2020, 6:12 PM

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fun fact, CIG almost always fixes the bugs within a couple of quarters

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but theres always a new bug thats added in its place

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🤣

tame elbow Jul 14, 2020, 6:30 PM

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I am just waiting for SC to get to the point where the game is so unplayable because they keep adding shit and ingoring the bugs that they either stop making new things and set aside a year for bugfixes or they give up outright because its too broken
@hollow sedge I have strong doubts this will ever be the case. CIG does minor patches if it is

ebon cedar Jul 14, 2020, 6:50 PM

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Getting obsessed with a stupid question : what happens to a ship auto-cruising with 0 ppl inside. Does it continue his journey forever ? ( or until no hydrogen remaining at least, which takes time). I like to do that when I quickly need to get rid of a ship w/o destroying it (CS)

turbid plinth Jul 14, 2020, 8:23 PM

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the server regularly despawns entities. Ghost ships might fall into that category

waxen basin Jul 14, 2020, 8:42 PM

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was mining earlier finally found some good ore 75% full and 30k lol

turbid plinth Jul 14, 2020, 8:43 PM

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game do be mean sometiem

balmy olive Jul 15, 2020, 12:24 AM

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Anyone know where to find surface Hadanite?

waxen basin Jul 15, 2020, 12:43 AM

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do those search missions where u have to find someone missing those caves are full of it

kind yoke Jul 15, 2020, 12:53 AM

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can u still put ur backpack inventory in a box and put it on ur ship?

vital glen Jul 15, 2020, 2:17 AM

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stoic heron Jul 15, 2020, 2:19 AM

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Should I stick with my freelancer misc until I can get a cat?
I want to upgrade but the only ship I’m finding is like 20sc more then the freelancer

unique lion Jul 15, 2020, 2:21 AM

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freelancer Max would be the largest cargo carrying ship you can get atm

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unless the pirate cat thing is still around

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assuming they didn't remove it yet, beating pirate swarm grants you the ability to buy a 6-month insurance version of the caterpillar with a pirate livery. exaclty the same price/kit as a normal cat otherwise. (also can buy a pirate gladius for $110 with a pirate skin and slightly different loadout)

zinc lynx Jul 15, 2020, 2:23 AM

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isn't a regular cat purchaseable?

unique lion Jul 15, 2020, 2:23 AM

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not unless there's an event

zinc lynx Jul 15, 2020, 2:23 AM

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in game?

unique lion Jul 15, 2020, 2:24 AM

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well ingame you could yeah. 4million ish UEC iirc

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I would hold off on that until 3.10 tbh. cause if it gets wiped then

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

zinc lynx Jul 15, 2020, 2:24 AM

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idk if they mean in game or pledge tbh

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i thought it was in game

unique lion Jul 15, 2020, 2:24 AM

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idk, I saw upgrade. assumed purchase

stoic heron Jul 15, 2020, 2:24 AM

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I have barely made 500k....I’m happy swapping all my pledge stuff to buy a cat

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Will check out this pirate thing

zinc lynx Jul 15, 2020, 2:25 AM

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try out the freelancer max?

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its got 120 ish SCU

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should nearly double your cargo

stoic heron Jul 15, 2020, 2:25 AM

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Ok nice, bigger then Connie

unique lion Jul 15, 2020, 2:25 AM

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seems it's 120 even

stoic heron Jul 15, 2020, 2:26 AM

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66 in the misc, so that’s a decent jump. Thanks Wild I will upgrade to the max

unique lion Jul 15, 2020, 2:26 AM

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tfw you recommended the max first

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pain5

stoic heron Jul 15, 2020, 2:26 AM

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Are the weapons heavily nerfed? The misc is pretty much my only combat ship

zinc lynx Jul 15, 2020, 2:26 AM

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^ Blue is the true hero

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I'm planning on getting a Max in game but Idk how much money i wanna give CIG

stoic heron Jul 15, 2020, 2:27 AM

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Haha thank you all who answered, getting help in game is limited... 🖖

zinc lynx Jul 15, 2020, 2:27 AM

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i gave them a total of $118 and don't wanna spend more, but the max is in my upgrade path

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though Im hearing drug smuggling will be even better, so hopefully at launch, I can do decent work as a smuggler

unique lion Jul 15, 2020, 2:28 AM

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lancer max ingame

zinc lynx Jul 15, 2020, 2:28 AM

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yup

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easily earnable for me

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I can use it for cargo running if I enjoy it / need a push in money

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or just as a pick up truck for org stuff

static plinth Jul 15, 2020, 2:53 AM

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My ship just destroyed with cargo in it

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Will come back when claim?

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need answer pls

analog olive Jul 15, 2020, 3:00 AM

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No, once a ship is destroyed any ship parts added or cargo are lost. Claiming will give you a default ship.

frozen vine Jul 15, 2020, 3:08 AM

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ship parts come back

static plinth Jul 15, 2020, 3:13 AM

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this is sad

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just spend 100k on trading

limpid spear Jul 15, 2020, 3:28 AM

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May the 30k odds forever be in your favor

naive maple Jul 15, 2020, 5:47 AM

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no wipes for 3.10 thank god... confirmed... SC Leaks
@blissful rain thank god is right!... do you have a link? Who was it? Is it just more opinions? Was it a developer? What did he say?

blissful rain Jul 15, 2020, 6:38 AM

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📎 Screenshot_20200715-073757.jpg

kind yoke Jul 15, 2020, 7:12 AM

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😋 yep i hv been grinding again since i saw this msg

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wanted to try a mole

blissful rain Jul 15, 2020, 8:07 AM

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hehe

blazing rock Jul 15, 2020, 10:09 AM

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No wipe and suspicious accounts adjusted? That's perfect!!! Let's hope this really confirms.

wraith bluff Jul 15, 2020, 10:51 AM

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so. what the best spot for hadenite. cave or surface. can anyone help?

hollow sedge Jul 15, 2020, 11:37 AM

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Caves

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Do missing persons missions they will point you right at em

waxen basin Jul 15, 2020, 4:31 PM

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found my best haul for mining used my mole if u postition just right u can mine and fly with 1 person i didnt go to 141 like i usally do i tried one of the other sites the first rocks i found sucked but i found like 12 big rocks just crap in them. then i found 2 good laranite rocks and 2 good agricm rock for a total of 95000

blissful rain Jul 15, 2020, 6:08 PM

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✅

turbid plinth Jul 15, 2020, 6:18 PM

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the best way ive made a mole work in a group has honestly been with a prospector flying recon

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if you have 3 guys, 1 flies ahead with a prospector to spot good rocks and do the 1st break

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the mole becomes a big vacuum of the valuable chunks

waxen basin Jul 15, 2020, 7:32 PM

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Oh that's cool

azure prawn Jul 15, 2020, 8:03 PM

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god i wanna haul cargo but idk the best route and the safest one

turbid plinth Jul 15, 2020, 8:13 PM

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safest is Arccorp

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Mining 056 on wala

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laranite

azure prawn Jul 15, 2020, 8:13 PM

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hmmm

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Lemme go to BJ Point and then pull out my freelancer

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ok, I got the lancer

blissful rain Jul 15, 2020, 8:39 PM

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@turbid plinth if u keep publicly mentioning the good routes, the grievers are going to clock on and start killing people along this route

turbid plinth Jul 15, 2020, 8:43 PM

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what if i'm one of them

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dun dun

blissful rain Jul 15, 2020, 8:46 PM

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exactkt

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lol

subtle spoke Jul 15, 2020, 9:50 PM

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How do drugs cargo hauling work? Where can I find it? And is it better than other stuff for profit?

turbid plinth Jul 15, 2020, 10:04 PM

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@subtle spoke It is currently worse overall than Laranite because of sell times. Drugs take at least an hour to sell. Sometimes more depending on which you get

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Drugs do make significantly higher profit per run. Both in % and absolute amount. But you can do 4 Laranite runs for every drug run

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To learn drug hauling, check the buy/sell locations on Gallog.co. The best drugs are E'tam/Neon. Altruciatoxin and SLAM are popular too. "Best" in terms of drugs is down to the sell location's refresh rate, which is the bottleneck atm

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the buy/sell locations will be drug labs. Google a YT guide on how to find them, or do a personal delivery that gives you the location

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or an experienced drug runner like myself can show you the ropes. no shame

indigo acorn Jul 15, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Drug running is good if you have a small ship with like 12 SCU or less

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But if you have a larger ship just use that

turbid plinth Jul 15, 2020, 10:44 PM

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if you're flying SCU that small the profits are so low that you're in "just run boxes" territory

zinc lynx Jul 15, 2020, 11:12 PM

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@turbid plinth How much can you make with 4 SCU?

I'm wondering about the possibilities of running boxes to places, and on the flight back bringing some drugs to earn more profit, or just cover costs of gas.

turbid plinth Jul 15, 2020, 11:13 PM

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3000UEC/SCU @zinc lynx

zinc lynx Jul 15, 2020, 11:13 PM

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so return flight is a 12k run? That's not too bad tbh

turbid plinth Jul 15, 2020, 11:13 PM

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if you're doing the Hurston boxes, you sell at GrimHex at the end of your run

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ez 12k i guess haha

zinc lynx Jul 15, 2020, 11:15 PM

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I just need locations for buying and selling if you wanna pM me

reef narwhal Jul 15, 2020, 11:30 PM

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Honestly, I made an easy million and a half in two days running chemicals in a loop from a Moon to a Station (not gonna say where or how) in the free Freelancer. 142k per hour if you do the maths right. I did that just to buy a Gladius. No bullshit. It can be done.

turbid plinth Jul 15, 2020, 11:32 PM

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unfortunately for you buddy, im in the Fortune Exchange

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my trade is the accumulation and free dissemination of information about all things SC

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and....i know what route you're talking about

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😏

reef narwhal Jul 15, 2020, 11:34 PM

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Ha! I stumbled upon it completely by accident and with red bleary eyes focussed on the same point of that moon through terrain shadows each time. It’s hard work if you get it wrong but rewarding if you don’t.

turbid plinth Jul 15, 2020, 11:35 PM

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have you learned the geo coordinate system

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from the lab, memorize the distance of 3 landmarks

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youll be able to triangulate your destination in any condition at that point

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i have my key labs mapped. EZ no sweat even in pitch balck

reef narwhal Jul 15, 2020, 11:38 PM

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A little bit yes a little bit no. I mean its all over utube if you look hard enough. I used to be a surveyor so plotting a path between two points based on topography on land is easy, but in space, with beacons is super easy

turbid plinth Jul 15, 2020, 11:40 PM

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problem with the topography method is you need some light

reef narwhal Jul 15, 2020, 11:40 PM

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very true

turbid plinth Jul 15, 2020, 11:40 PM

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i still rely on the topo method when i have light because its faster

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i revert to coordinates when its dark. I follow the topo up until it becomes untenable and then geo the rest of the way

reef narwhal Jul 15, 2020, 11:42 PM

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not against the rules i figure...just intelligent gameplay. Just wanted to let people commenting above know it can be done

brisk cliff Jul 16, 2020, 12:08 AM

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So I've been doing mining runs with my prospector trying to earn some money. I don't have a helix yet so my returns are usually in the low 10-20k region are there more profitable options for beginners transporting with the freelancer?

vocal prairie Jul 16, 2020, 12:09 AM

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Glitch it with your hangar and slap a Helix 1 mining head on it.

turbid plinth Jul 16, 2020, 12:09 AM

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With the freelancer your options are hauling Laranite if you have capital, or combat around hurston

brisk cliff Jul 16, 2020, 12:11 AM

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So my best bet is to get the helix and keep mining runs. I have a mole as well. Is it more profitable to team up and mine with that?

proven token Jul 16, 2020, 12:12 AM

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Can be with a good team, really depends on luck right now imo

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With tye next patch money transfers will be easier at least

round knoll Jul 16, 2020, 5:12 AM

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I think CIG should prioritize a cargo overhaul and impliment different box sizes for different amounts of cargo. Would probably help with server stability. Although alot of things need to be in place for this to be viable. But would give a good use to the Argo SRV as a ship tug to get them out of atmo and move larger cargo containers to space to load up the Hulls and other non-planet faring ships.

cloud slate Jul 16, 2020, 6:52 AM

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would be nice but as yo said alot needs to be added for that to be viable like docking collars for non-planet faring ships such as a the Hulls plus they would have to be finish and flyable as well xD

dusk void Jul 16, 2020, 7:13 AM

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I can see the SRV "I'll haul you out for 5k"

cloud slate Jul 16, 2020, 7:42 AM

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agreed but for someone that doesnt have alot of time they may live in a big city and tow the big cargo ships to space again for a few hours

proven token Jul 16, 2020, 9:15 AM

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I love the idea of the SRV

hollow sedge Jul 16, 2020, 3:24 PM

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Dont see docking collars coming until sq42 is released since then they will absolutley have to have them out as at least idris is supposed to come with it

odd nacelle Jul 16, 2020, 5:32 PM

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My caterpillar is somehow at HDMS-Lathan full of goods

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after a 30k

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shows up on the trade terminal, but the goods are greyed out

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how2fix? I usually try to land again

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but I can't do that this time.

arctic blaze Jul 16, 2020, 5:34 PM

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its gone

odd nacelle Jul 16, 2020, 5:37 PM

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it worked!

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just som epatience and I was able to sell the goods

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now at least it's empty, so I cna claim it without losing shit

turbid plinth Jul 16, 2020, 6:22 PM

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wdym you sold the goods

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you sold from your cat at lathan, in lorville?

odd nacelle Jul 16, 2020, 6:30 PM

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No, I flew to Lathan in something else

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was able to sell the goods off the Cata, then claimed it while empty elsewhere

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I'm about to do it again at Gallete Family Farms

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landed the cat, 30k'd before I could sell

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Came back, able to see Cat at Gallete after I came back in my 315p

turbid plinth Jul 16, 2020, 6:31 PM

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you can sell if you 30k'ed at the sell point

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what were you selling to Lathan? Lathan is a BUY point

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laranite/titanium

odd nacelle Jul 16, 2020, 6:31 PM

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Distilled spirits & processed food

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then usually laranite back

turbid plinth Jul 16, 2020, 6:31 PM

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daamn bro okay

odd nacelle Jul 16, 2020, 6:31 PM

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But obvs my run was interupted

turbid plinth Jul 16, 2020, 6:32 PM

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havent done that in a while

odd nacelle Jul 16, 2020, 6:32 PM

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I like to maximize the SCU

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I know people fly medical supplies right to Lathan

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but I make a stop first

turbid plinth Jul 16, 2020, 6:32 PM

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why are you hauling lara to PO tho

odd nacelle Jul 16, 2020, 6:32 PM

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the fuel cost is worth not dealing with Lorville?

turbid plinth Jul 16, 2020, 6:33 PM

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fuel cost? you playing 3.10

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?

odd nacelle Jul 16, 2020, 6:33 PM

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No, still on 3.9.1

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I dislike Lorville a lot

turbid plinth Jul 16, 2020, 6:33 PM

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fuel cost is negligible

odd nacelle Jul 16, 2020, 6:33 PM

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so 3k aUEC is worth it to avoid it.

turbid plinth Jul 16, 2020, 6:33 PM

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^^^that i can get

odd nacelle Jul 16, 2020, 6:33 PM

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btw, I've seen you in game a bunch haha

turbid plinth Jul 16, 2020, 6:34 PM

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yeshir i have put waaay to many hours into the game

odd nacelle Jul 16, 2020, 6:37 PM

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The only advantage to going to lorville would be less travel time

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but you factor in trains and shit, probably is about the same as a straight jump to PO

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The only thing that'd make lorville worth it is if I had a carrack with medbed for ez spawn

turbid plinth Jul 16, 2020, 7:31 PM

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the advantage is less exposure to 30k risk with laranite

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from purchase it's 5 minutes to get within 2k of lorville

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which saves your cargo

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which is why its common to believe that the route is 30k proof

odd nacelle Jul 16, 2020, 7:33 PM

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Lorville bad

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and you'll never change my mind :P

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especiallt worse with the 3.10 spline changes

turbid plinth Jul 16, 2020, 7:33 PM

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i am checkmated

lofty wagon Jul 16, 2020, 8:02 PM

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where do you get the Greycat roc from in the ptu?

pallid temple Jul 16, 2020, 8:07 PM

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Only certain people have access to it

lofty wagon Jul 16, 2020, 8:12 PM

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ahh that makes sense.

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thank you!

brisk sapphire Jul 16, 2020, 8:40 PM

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evening all

hearty pike Jul 16, 2020, 10:21 PM

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just rented a prospector

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best place to start mining?

violet acorn Jul 17, 2020, 12:52 AM

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Looking to give loans and grants in return for requesting me as a guide. Send me a DM if you need aUEC

naive maple Jul 17, 2020, 5:15 AM

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@violet acorn
I really appreciate you fast-fwd’ing me to my Sabre!... Truly!

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📎 image0.jpg

blissful rain Jul 17, 2020, 9:21 AM

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Let me tell you that in 3.10 it will take you double the time to land and take off from any of the planets with atmosphere..

regal notch Jul 17, 2020, 9:42 AM

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@naive maple
Congrats on your Sabre Comet 🥳‼️

woeful gazelle Jul 17, 2020, 9:51 AM

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@violet acorn what do you mean by "grant"?

regal notch Jul 17, 2020, 9:53 AM

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Like : request me as guide on Spectrum and I will grant you a loan in the PU ?

blissful rain Jul 17, 2020, 10:23 AM

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Morning

regal notch Jul 17, 2020, 10:46 AM

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Cya in 4.0 I guess hahaha

blissful rain Jul 17, 2020, 11:46 AM

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Lol no the new flight model is awsome

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Go play no man's sky if u want a dumbed down flight model :)

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I love the new target system too

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Almost perfect now

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Few tweaks here and there and it's game over bro

hushed path Jul 17, 2020, 2:25 PM

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I love the new targeting system

wet mango Jul 17, 2020, 2:56 PM

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whats Spectrum ?

odd nacelle Jul 17, 2020, 3:00 PM

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Y'all know when we'll get larger cargo containers?

vale stratus Jul 17, 2020, 5:01 PM

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If you are in 3.10 and had this issue when mining vote it up, also there's a workaround for it - https://robertsspaceindustries.com/community/issue-council/star-citizen-alpha-3/STARC-122420-Unable_to_scan_fractured_rock_fragments_in_Mole_turret

Get more involved in Star Citizen - Star Citizen Alpha 3 - Unable to scan fractured rock fragments in Mole turret

The smaller shards will flicker as if they constantly respawning or you are moving the mining arm off and back on, rapidly resetting the scan. The issue may reappear after the workaround is done for a different/other shard.

violet acorn Jul 17, 2020, 6:53 PM

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@violet acorn what do you mean by "grant"?
@woeful gazelle Like if you need some money because of a dire need or situation or for a good cause

woeful gazelle Jul 17, 2020, 6:54 PM

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is that still to be paid back? just curious, I've got enough money myself :)

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in any case: kudos to you for doing this.

violet acorn Jul 17, 2020, 7:27 PM

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if it is a loan then yes I will need to be paid back

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If it is a grant then is does not need to be

woeful moss Jul 17, 2020, 7:53 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/ht0ueo/psa_310_hand_mining_tool_now_has_a_scanner/ check this out guys

r/starcitizen - PSA - 3.10 Hand Mining Tool Now Has A Scanner

0 votes and 10 comments so far on Reddit

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And you're trusting people to pay you back @violet acorn ?

violet acorn Jul 18, 2020, 12:24 AM

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And you're trusting people to pay you back @violet acorn ?
@woeful moss I mean it's a video game... but yeah. I'll also get your info so I can put you on my orgs KOS list if you try to run away with the money

rain gull Jul 18, 2020, 12:47 AM

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whos doing loans? trying to start cargo with my connie

woeful moss Jul 18, 2020, 7:01 AM

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@violet acorn I don't need your money, I'm just asking out of curiosity and am impressed by your generosity and trust into people. Sure it's just a game but depending on the amount it's still work behind it or at least hours of gameplay. Because tbh. what Info will you get? The ingame Username, which can even be changed. Furthermore a KOS List? Lets say you put someone on KOS in the current state. You have to scan each and every ship. There's a 50 player limit on servers right now. So lets say you find the thief. You either kill him, he just respawns and spawns ship new, you get crimestat. Or he's flying around somewhere and you will never find him because there is no real tracking.

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As I said it's just mere curiosity and not meant as an attack or anything similar

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@rain gull TAYLORBOTS is giving out loans and grants

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He can set you up

blazing rock Jul 18, 2020, 12:05 PM

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Guys just a question, I've rented the Prospector and bought the Helix minning head. If I remove it form the ship before the rental expires, will I keep it in my inventory to use in a next rental or if I buy the ship in the future?

pallid temple Jul 18, 2020, 12:07 PM

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Yes

blazing rock Jul 18, 2020, 12:09 PM

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thanks @pallid temple

ashen epoch Jul 18, 2020, 1:39 PM

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dont think you can attach it to rental but if ever get one in game can attach it to that

blazing rock Jul 18, 2020, 1:41 PM

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how come? I have it on right now

pallid temple Jul 18, 2020, 1:44 PM

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You can

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You can hotswap components if you know how

brave agate Jul 18, 2020, 2:08 PM

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i hope they power up thrusters in mole and prospector in 3.10. right now they are stupidly hard to use

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they dont hover well, which you need for mining

viscid ibex Jul 18, 2020, 3:17 PM

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Prospector doesnt hover well in 3.9? i hardly disagree

hollow sedge Jul 18, 2020, 3:30 PM

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3.10 its far worse. It hovers but wobbles so badly the mining laser is unusable

turbid plinth Jul 18, 2020, 3:30 PM

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a prospector at >250 is a torpedo

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@hollow sedge guess it's time to land? lol

hollow sedge Jul 18, 2020, 3:31 PM

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It mostly negates usiing it really. It took a long time to mine before

woeful moss Jul 18, 2020, 4:52 PM

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They need to rebalance the prices, then it's okay if it takes longer and you have to land

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compared even to doing missions around hurston it's not really worth the investment right now

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and compared to trading it's not mentionable anyways

barren meadow Jul 18, 2020, 6:15 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/my-boy-massacred-godfather-marlan-brando-look-gif-13993325

Tenor

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After flying the prospector in 3.10 ptu

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"Flying" is a generous word

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It is so slow. My big ships can literally fly circles around it while doing the macarena

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T_T

proven token Jul 18, 2020, 9:58 PM

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yea the prospector even when unloaded flys like the worst ship in the verse

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idk why you would design a ship to perform so poorly to be honest

turbid plinth Jul 18, 2020, 10:59 PM

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MISC

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built for life

vale stratus Jul 19, 2020, 6:03 AM

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This has been effecting me and the guys mining with me in the 3.10 PTU for a couple of days - let's vote it up so it's fixed before this problem goes to the Live version

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https://robertsspaceindustries.com/community/issue-council/star-citizen-alpha-3/STARC-122420-Unable_to_scan_fractured_rock_fragments_in_Mole_turret

Get more involved in Star Citizen - Star Citizen Alpha 3 - Unable to scan fractured rock fragments in Mole turret

The smaller shards will flicker as if they constantly respawning or you are moving the mining arm off and back on, rapidly resetting the scan. The issue may reappear after the workaround is done for a different/other shard.

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Also may be effecting the Prospectors as well

barren meadow Jul 19, 2020, 9:08 AM

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I'll upvote anything to do with mining. Cuz 3.10 destroyed it 😦

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Ma poor Prospector

vocal prairie Jul 19, 2020, 10:01 AM

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Has anyone upgraded power plants and coolers to see if there is a difference? I know there are some that say it makes no difference, but I had a clear and notable difference after upgrading them in 3.9 (due to microtech and surrounding moons causing issues). Something to consider. I unfortunately spent all my money to upgrade my comet in ptu. 😅

barren meadow Jul 19, 2020, 10:47 AM

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Hasn't done anything in my tests. Even with different mixes of coolers/Power plants. The Prospector is not capable of even handling its own weight, let alone maneuver. Makes me sad. I hope they don't overlook this before release

vocal prairie Jul 19, 2020, 10:59 AM

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Ouch. That's very disappointing to read.

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But at the same time, my Spector has the "never gets full even at 100%" bug.

barren meadow Jul 19, 2020, 11:01 AM

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3.10 has all together been really depressing for me as a miner lol

vocal prairie Jul 19, 2020, 11:03 AM

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Well... Let's hope cargo running hasn't shit the bed as well.

brisk sapphire Jul 19, 2020, 12:18 PM

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in the PTU the juddering rocks after fracture are a bit of a pain , scanning on them if your lucky glad they havent changed anything with the helix head o7

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📎 ScreenShot0006.jpg

woeful moss Jul 19, 2020, 12:45 PM

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@brisk sapphire what?

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Can you reiterate?

weary stream Jul 19, 2020, 1:49 PM

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I was just trying to mine on 3.9 and it was despawning the peices as I fractured the rock, pretty frustrating.

kind yoke Jul 19, 2020, 1:53 PM

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in 3.10 i only hv success on mining by landing my ship

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or go to yela asteriod

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im think if they are looking to make ship mining a asteriod thing while land vechical dedicated for planet / moon mining

blazing rock Jul 19, 2020, 3:34 PM

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I was just trying to mine on 3.9 and it was despawning the peices as I fractured the rock, pretty frustrating.
@weary stream just stick with surface mining or Yela asteroid ring.

barren meadow Jul 19, 2020, 3:35 PM

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Thing is, the prospector is shown mining on the surface with that laser that can point downwards. While i don't mind having specialized land/space miners specially, the prospector should b able to at least move faster than 40 through the atmosphere and not struggle to carry itself lol

hollow sedge Jul 19, 2020, 4:00 PM

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The mole is no better in 3.10

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I have both, both absolutely suck in 3.10

barren meadow Jul 19, 2020, 4:24 PM

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^So much this

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Doesn't help that the scanner is still botched from 3.9

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Scanner range is abysmal

vale stratus Jul 19, 2020, 4:56 PM

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@brisk sapphire that’s what my issue council above is about, there’s a couple of workarounds there too

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@barren meadow have you tried disabling the proximity assist and g-safe on the prospector?

barren meadow Jul 19, 2020, 5:00 PM

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@vale stratus Yep. Didn't make a lick of difference. Turning off coupled mode helps "KINDA", but speed still tops at about 60 ish, and now i am struggling to just go straight.

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Straight up, it has a messed up flight model

vale stratus Jul 19, 2020, 5:03 PM

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@barren meadow damn, I was expecting them to fuck up the mole as it was a heavier ship but I guess it’s some sort of freak bug with the prospector

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I’ll gladly upvote any issue council for it

barren meadow Jul 19, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Mining in general is completely bollocked

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It started from the shift from 3.8 to 2.9

vale stratus Jul 19, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Yeah that’s true

barren meadow Jul 19, 2020, 5:03 PM

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*3.9

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When scanning range got screwed over

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Prospectors and Moles not being able to detect mineables unless you are on top of them

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and now in 3.10, the issue still exists, but we also have to struggle with a sluggish potato that can't even maintain altitude

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So i am very sad

vale stratus Jul 19, 2020, 5:04 PM

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Like honestly right now mining is all about finding mineables and not actually mining them

barren meadow Jul 19, 2020, 5:05 PM

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Even if you DO find the mineables, and managed to maneuver towards them with the crappy flight model we have

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You activate the mining laser, and the game just goes INSANE

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and crashes

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Mining was working fine in 3.8, so i have no idea why they felt the need to destroy a good base

hollow sedge Jul 19, 2020, 5:05 PM

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Tbh the only real viable non combat money making atm is spelunking and fed ex driver. Trade is a massive gamble and mining is dead

vale stratus Jul 19, 2020, 5:06 PM

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There’s also this bug where you will find the rock, it will render for you and then you have to wait for it to rerender again so it’s scannable and in 3.10 it’s taking even longer

little escarp Jul 19, 2020, 5:06 PM

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did they fix the issue with rocks appearing in different places for other people on the same sho

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shp?

vale stratus Jul 19, 2020, 5:06 PM

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May have something to do with the tick rate tho

barren meadow Jul 19, 2020, 5:06 PM

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@little escarp Nothing mining has been fixed

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It has either been made WORSE

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or just bonked

little escarp Jul 19, 2020, 5:06 PM

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oof

vale stratus Jul 19, 2020, 5:06 PM

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@little escarp I haven’t had that problem before

barren meadow Jul 19, 2020, 5:07 PM

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don't even get me started on the rocks now just vanishing

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and false positives

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and wrong information

little escarp Jul 19, 2020, 5:07 PM

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that was happening in the solar belt in 3.9

barren meadow Jul 19, 2020, 5:07 PM

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I literally cannot fathom what must have happened from 3.8 that messed up the mining code so much

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Probably when they were trying to implement the ROC mining type

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and they somehow screwed the rest of the mining loops

little escarp Jul 19, 2020, 5:08 PM

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ROC?

barren meadow Jul 19, 2020, 5:08 PM

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Yeah, the mining buggy

little escarp Jul 19, 2020, 5:08 PM

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oh

vale stratus Jul 19, 2020, 5:08 PM

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Ohh by the way there’s a shitload of roc mineables now

barren meadow Jul 19, 2020, 5:08 PM

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Yeah, but no ROC to test them with

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XD

vale stratus Jul 19, 2020, 5:08 PM

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Like more than prospector mole ones

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I hope they either tune it down or allow the mole to accept the s0 head to mine them

barren meadow Jul 19, 2020, 5:09 PM

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Honestly, at this stage, i really hope 3.10 doesn't get pushed to PU for another 2 weeks at least

vale stratus Jul 19, 2020, 5:09 PM

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Same

barren meadow Jul 19, 2020, 5:09 PM

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They have to fix the mining bugs that resulted from this

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It isn't logical to break a whole game loop they took ages developing

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and then release it

vale stratus Jul 19, 2020, 5:09 PM

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The flight sticks are also not working so everyone will get mad in pu

barren meadow Jul 19, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Now i know why people joke about coding. "You can't fix a piece of code without screwing two others things in the same line"

little escarp Jul 19, 2020, 5:10 PM

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my warthog hasnt worked since a year ago in the game. the throttle is reversed but only in this game

vale stratus Jul 19, 2020, 5:10 PM

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rollsafe

barren meadow Jul 19, 2020, 5:11 PM

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@little escarp I had the same problem with my Logi stick lol

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Started using my xbox controller instead

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Somehow, i like it more

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XD

little escarp Jul 19, 2020, 5:11 PM

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yeah i just switched to mouse and keyboard

barren meadow Jul 19, 2020, 5:11 PM

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At this point, i am just upvoting all the mining/rendering issues on the council

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But sadly, not many people report these things

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So you have a lot of serious problems

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with only 2/10

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or 3/10

little escarp Jul 19, 2020, 5:12 PM

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also i had a problem at lorville where i couldnt leave the landing area without autopilot turning on

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had to relog in the bed to reset into the middle of they system

barren meadow Jul 19, 2020, 5:13 PM

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Yeah, this update does some nice things, but broke a whole massive chunk of the game

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Not sure how the Evocati didn't nothing these

woeful moss Jul 20, 2020, 6:31 AM

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@barren meadow avocati have focused testing afaik. Mining wasn't focused I think

barren meadow Jul 20, 2020, 7:33 AM

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@woeful moss I guess i can understand that. Let us hope it gets fixed with current testing then. I hope it won't get pushed to PI.

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*PU

blissful rain Jul 20, 2020, 8:59 AM

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Now i know why people joke about coding. "You can't fix a piece of code without screwing two others things in the same line"
@barren meadow and this is why it's wise to get all the game features and mechanic done before bug fixing

woeful moss Jul 20, 2020, 10:49 AM

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When coding there are a lot of dependencies and you also build up a lot of debt. So I'm not sure if that's the right way. I 've seen projects were those dependencies broke the whole game. Of course I hope here it will be better.

devout sable Jul 20, 2020, 11:25 AM

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whats a good trade run to do

lofty crest Jul 20, 2020, 11:39 AM

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do you want risk or nah?

turbid plinth Jul 20, 2020, 1:17 PM

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anyone in PTU testing hauling? is the supply/prices still static?

blissful rain Jul 20, 2020, 2:48 PM

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anyone in PTU testing hauling? is the supply/prices still static?
@turbid plinth only started off with 50k..

woeful moss Jul 20, 2020, 3:08 PM

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@turbid plinth someone on reddit wrote a thread and said it's back to normal in 3.10

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https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/hu6mj8/310_and_the_laranite_bug/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

r/starcitizen - 3.10 and the “Laranite Bug”

43 votes and 49 comments so far on Reddit

turbid plinth Jul 20, 2020, 3:34 PM

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@woeful moss lol the guy is a bait. He went on and on but never actually answered whether the bug is fixed

woeful moss Jul 20, 2020, 3:46 PM

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Yeah true. I thought much the same. Just wanted to put it out there

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Of course it would be nice if we could continue to make those trips

keen bay Jul 20, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Anyone think the Conny is gunna be better than the MAX in 3.10?

pallid temple Jul 20, 2020, 4:41 PM

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I doubt it

hollow sedge Jul 20, 2020, 4:42 PM

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am curious; why would you think it would be?

regal notch Jul 20, 2020, 4:43 PM

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Max is a better space brick no ?

hollow sedge Jul 20, 2020, 4:43 PM

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plus if you're hauling it has like a good 40 scu on connie

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96 vs 120-something I think

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ok 30 scu

regal notch Jul 20, 2020, 4:45 PM

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But they are fixing Freelancers in atmosphere so ... Connyes so far I read they needs a rework also for landing purposes

brisk sapphire Jul 20, 2020, 5:58 PM

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im stuck at grim , F doent seem to work when in ship lol

keen bay Jul 20, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Yeah but Conny has good VTOL systems

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IDK, im torn between the Conny and the MAX for 3.10 pledge upgrade.

vale stratus Jul 20, 2020, 8:36 PM

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Vote up if your mining ship has acted like it still has Quantanium on board after you've sold it. https://robertsspaceindustries.com/community/issue-council/star-citizen-alpha-3/STARC-123086-Quantanium_Volatile_Cargo_Alert_Glitch

Get more involved in Star Citizen - Star Citizen Alpha 3 - Quantanium/Volatile Cargo Alert Glitch

The ship's Volatile Cargo Alert will turn on, as if the ship contains Quantanium. If you do nothing, nothing happens when the timer ends. If you return to the Refinery, the refinery will show last haul's elements at 0% in addition to whatever the ship is currently loaded wi...

regal notch Jul 20, 2020, 8:37 PM

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@vale stratus
there is were you have to post it : #bug-hunt-chat

turbid flax Jul 20, 2020, 9:30 PM

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what do i need to do to my prospector to be able to mine quantanium?

vale stratus Jul 20, 2020, 9:41 PM

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@turbid flax You need to buy a Helix size 1 mining head and ideally put an Optimum consumable on it

brisk sapphire Jul 20, 2020, 9:42 PM

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helix should be fine the add on only lasts 25 seconds ish

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and finding the stuff well be fun ,

pallid temple Jul 20, 2020, 9:44 PM

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Consumables last for 30 seconds

vale stratus Jul 20, 2020, 9:44 PM

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@brisk sapphire there are 5 charges and if you haven't mined quantanium before you're in for a hard time without it

devout ibex Jul 20, 2020, 11:43 PM

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any1 got any good trade routes?

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for a cat

brave agate Jul 21, 2020, 12:50 AM

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lathan to lorville cbd laranite. the same one there has been for a while

pulsar geyser Jul 21, 2020, 6:06 AM

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I haven't been making as much from mining this week as last. Prices seem lower.

blissful rain Jul 21, 2020, 11:37 AM

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@pulsar geyser nows the best time to mine and trade

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many are on 3.10 now

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and its hard to go back

brave agate Jul 21, 2020, 11:40 AM

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there is also the issue of mining outside the Yela rings is pretty much impossible on 3.10 and if it persists to live that is a revenue stream gone

blissful rain Jul 21, 2020, 11:48 AM

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how is it impossible?

cloud slate Jul 21, 2020, 12:01 PM

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does this mean the economy is fixed or just bugs causing issues with certain ways of making credits?

blissful rain Jul 21, 2020, 12:01 PM

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wow this is awsome if true > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgQmv5yk34M

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brave agate Jul 21, 2020, 12:01 PM

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you cant keep the laser on a rock

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at all

blissful rain Jul 21, 2020, 12:02 PM

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you cant keep the laser on a rock
@brave agate when in orbit?

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or when in moon?

brave agate Jul 21, 2020, 12:02 PM

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on a planet

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thus why i said anywhere other than the yela belt

blissful rain Jul 21, 2020, 12:02 PM

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i heard when u mine, u lose fps. it drops t 2fps!!!

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do u know if there is a bug report on the forums posted already?

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we need to spread the word

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and vote

brave agate Jul 21, 2020, 12:03 PM

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my council post is in #bug-hunt-chat

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dont repost that in here, they will get angry. thats what that channel is for

blissful rain Jul 21, 2020, 12:05 PM

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ok

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done

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have voted

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brave agate Jul 21, 2020, 12:06 PM

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hopefully when more people test mining once the PTU goes public my thread will get hits

blissful rain Jul 21, 2020, 12:07 PM

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YEA

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game breaking

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that is

mellow grail Jul 21, 2020, 3:57 PM

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I was mining just earlier this morning and it worked. I mined planetside on Yela, Belt mined at Yela. The other belts are still bugged with the issue of asteroids disappearing after initial break, but that bug has been around for some time now during 3.9

hollow sedge Jul 21, 2020, 5:01 PM

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My post was on the PTU not live

queen estuary Jul 21, 2020, 5:01 PM

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I've been playing on and off for a few months, I think I've got about 50k so far, Is this enough to start with trade runs or should I beef up my funds more? I've got a Thicclancer Max

hollow sedge Jul 21, 2020, 5:02 PM

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50k, sure but you are playing 30k roulette

queen estuary Jul 21, 2020, 5:02 PM

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Ahhhhhhh

hollow sedge Jul 21, 2020, 5:02 PM

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One 30k is all it takes to put you back at 0

queen estuary Jul 21, 2020, 5:02 PM

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I forgot about all of that shit

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Dammit

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Is it worth giving it a try or nah?

hollow sedge Jul 21, 2020, 5:03 PM

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I made millions playing the game, then lost it all in 2 hours. Its worth is up to you

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30ks arent the only danger, they are the obvious ones. Bugs can ruin you to

queen estuary Jul 21, 2020, 5:04 PM

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Oh damn, how much would I need to start earning the big boy dollarydoos like that? I was thinking of just doing scrap runs at first as it seems to be the cheaper option

hollow sedge Jul 21, 2020, 5:04 PM

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I lost my last 300k being yanked out of my ship mid qt

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A lancer max takes 300k of laranite. Makes 70k a run

queen estuary Jul 21, 2020, 5:06 PM

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So far I've been able to put up with the buggy-ness because I just mess around, but if something like that happened whilst I had a full cargo, I think I wouldn't be playing the game for a long time after lmao

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That's not bad though, i take it the cat is best for cargo right now?

hollow sedge Jul 21, 2020, 5:06 PM

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Atm, yes. Carrack 2nd

queen estuary Jul 21, 2020, 5:08 PM

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I was debating upgrading to the merchantman when it's next available just for the cat/defender loaners tbh

hollow sedge Jul 21, 2020, 5:09 PM

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Merchantman is available on grey market cheaper than rsi sells it atm mostly because the older cheaper one is still around

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The ship price has gone up a few times since announced. It will go up again, the thing is bigger than a polaris

queen estuary Jul 21, 2020, 5:11 PM

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For now I'm not putting any more funds into the game, but once it gets more content I'll for sure grab it, rn I think I'd only need $50 more to upgrade to it, but they'll probably increase the price again next sale haha

hollow sedge Jul 21, 2020, 5:12 PM

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Most people i talk to estimate closer to release it will be Carrack price, honestly sounds about right

queen estuary Jul 21, 2020, 5:12 PM

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That's why I was tempted to get it, it's incredibly cheap compared to other ships of its size

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Plus alien ships are always awesome af

waxen basin Jul 21, 2020, 5:35 PM

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asteroid mining still broken on ptu

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scanners as well

naive maple Jul 21, 2020, 6:50 PM

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What’s the best Drug route?... I remember someone mentioning a route where you can buy 4 different drugs and sell them all at a single location, Grim Hex iirc... anyone know the details please?

blissful rain Jul 21, 2020, 7:48 PM

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@naive maple theres drug route delivery missions now on 3.10

hard siren Jul 21, 2020, 9:46 PM

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So when is wave 2 of ptu coming ?

willow crescent Jul 21, 2020, 11:33 PM

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soon

naive maple Jul 22, 2020, 12:38 AM

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@blissful rain that’s good news!

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But, meanwhile, what is the lab that has 3-4 commodities that can be sold at Grim Hex?... or is there one? Jumptown?

turbid plinth Jul 22, 2020, 1:04 AM

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Nuen Waste

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sells etam, neon, altruciatoxin, widow

naive maple Jul 22, 2020, 6:31 AM

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@turbid plinth thx!! ... and GrimHex Hex buys all those?... any sites have the limits that GH buys at a time?

turbid plinth Jul 22, 2020, 7:20 AM

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Gallog, as usual

odd nacelle Jul 22, 2020, 1:19 PM

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Have they added new outposts around microtech for trading?

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I thought I read something in 3.10 about that.

safe herald Jul 22, 2020, 1:39 PM

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Hey guys, I ve got an issues controling the prospector mining turret. Can get help here?

tame elbow Jul 22, 2020, 2:03 PM

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Controlling it?

naive maple Jul 22, 2020, 3:32 PM

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Gallog is fantastic, and confirmed sales of all 4 drugs there, but it doesn’t tell me how much sells per transaction, such as how Orinth will buy E’tam 5scu at a time each 5 minutes

nimble leaf Jul 22, 2020, 4:22 PM

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Hey guys, can u tell me what is the state of the Mole scanner? Is it working properly now and showing the nods from 10kms atm? thanks for the answers in advance

hushed path Jul 22, 2020, 4:23 PM

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I think it is?

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At least from what I've heard from friends

lucid ridge Jul 22, 2020, 4:30 PM

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@nimble leaf i bought the mole yesterday it did not scan anything even worse then the procpector so i melted it again 2 hours after

barren meadow Jul 22, 2020, 5:28 PM

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Yeah, Mole and Prospector have both been shanked to death

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Hope they fix it soon

lean wedge Jul 22, 2020, 6:27 PM

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Do outposts like Bezdek have a selling-limit for stuff like medical supplies, or a limited overall capacity?

crimson mantle Jul 22, 2020, 6:28 PM

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Yes

pallid temple Jul 22, 2020, 6:28 PM

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They have a max inventory

crimson mantle Jul 22, 2020, 6:28 PM

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https://scunpacked.com/commodities

lean wedge Jul 22, 2020, 6:29 PM

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neat

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Does CiG have any plans for in-game tracking of inventories?

crimson mantle Jul 22, 2020, 6:30 PM

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no idea

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there were blog posts a long time ago

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for market tracking in-game

lean wedge Jul 22, 2020, 6:30 PM

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It'd certainly be a big help

crimson mantle Jul 22, 2020, 6:30 PM

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but we're a long ways off

balmy olive Jul 22, 2020, 10:41 PM

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Those of you who went from cargo to mining: is it more fun? Less hassle? Do you make as much and how much were you making per run on cargo hauling?

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Everyone says renting or buying a prospector is better but I’m also seeing some of the numbers and the need to get better mining lasers etc and I’m wondering if there’s other pros or cons beside UEC per hour

pallid temple Jul 22, 2020, 10:51 PM

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I mean, its a lot better if you 30k

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You don't lose aUEC

unique lion Jul 23, 2020, 12:14 AM

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Much less initial investment vs cargo hauling to turn a profit. And supply and demand isn't an issue.

But you need to know what to look for and being picky for the high value stuff can make mining tale awhile

And like Doc said, if you 30k you just lose time, not a ship full of cargo you paid for

balmy olive Jul 23, 2020, 1:19 AM

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Cool, cool

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I sort of like running cargo, but it does get a little boring and I wouldn't mind switching it up. I even like a bit of FPS mining but that's so slow and so much less profitable

turbid plinth Jul 23, 2020, 7:05 AM

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what kind of numbers would you consider to be worth doing

sacred tangle Jul 23, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Is there FPS mining around Crusader?

turbid plinth Jul 23, 2020, 5:30 PM

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Only in caves atm

woeful moss Jul 24, 2020, 9:30 AM

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Did anybody test the new prospector thrusters?

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@barren meadow ?

barren meadow Jul 24, 2020, 9:35 AM

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@woeful moss Testing right now actually lol

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Before, max speed on loreville takeoff was 40 ish and struggling. Now, it is like 90

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So they doubled the speed, but it still feels a bit underpowered

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Going to test it while mining on Microtec

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See how fast it goes there

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Also, it overheats extremely easily just by using thrusters

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so cooling should definitely be worked on

woeful moss Jul 24, 2020, 10:33 AM

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Okay nice to know, thx for testing it. So VTOL doesn't help much ?

barren meadow Jul 24, 2020, 10:39 AM

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@woeful moss Okay, Microtech speed's are slower. Straight line speed with VTOL tops out at 60 +/- 2

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Leaving atmosphere is slow

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faster than before, but slow

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In VTOL mode, ship hates registering different inputs

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if you press forward and space

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it will fight those commands

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So if you let go of space, your ship loses lift

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even if you are hovering

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is is strange

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It still needs more work

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Don't even bother mining quantanium lol

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I still think the Prospector needs to be much faster than this

woeful moss Jul 24, 2020, 10:42 AM

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wow okay, thx for the headsup. Did you try mining quant? Maybe they upped the time until it explodes?

barren meadow Jul 24, 2020, 10:42 AM

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Yep, you can't even leave atmosphere before it blows up lol

woeful moss Jul 24, 2020, 10:42 AM

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ouch

barren meadow Jul 24, 2020, 10:51 AM

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And it still suffers from lift loss in straight lines

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You can't fly straight without losing lift

woeful moss Jul 24, 2020, 11:04 AM

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I think with this patch they're taking reports more seriously so we just need to make them hear it

barren meadow Jul 24, 2020, 11:20 AM

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Indeed

lethal kayak Jul 24, 2020, 4:36 PM

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has anyone checked the Cellin Stash house? Does it work in the next patch?

turbid plinth Jul 24, 2020, 4:51 PM

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@lethal kayak stop hauling drugs you cokehead

lethal kayak Jul 24, 2020, 4:52 PM

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N E V E R

vast summit Jul 24, 2020, 9:01 PM

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Anyone have tips on finding Quantanium?

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Im lucky to find a rock or asteroid ever 4 hours, and usually with low concentrations

barren meadow Jul 24, 2020, 9:11 PM

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I've had luck finding them in Asteroids honestly

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but that was in 3.9

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not sure if that holds true in 3.10

vast summit Jul 24, 2020, 9:19 PM

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Any particular fields you would suggest?

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Currently i have been running Yela

barren meadow Jul 24, 2020, 9:21 PM

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Yela is pretty much that best bet honsetly

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less chance of rocks vanishing as well

vast summit Jul 24, 2020, 9:21 PM

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Alright, ill keep at it and hope my luck improves lol

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Best haul in the last 2 days has been 60k, average is 20k

barren meadow Jul 24, 2020, 9:26 PM

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You mining in 3.9 or 3.10?

vast summit Jul 24, 2020, 9:29 PM

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3.9

barren meadow Jul 24, 2020, 9:29 PM

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Ah, good. Stay there. 3.10 is hell for miners lol

vast summit Jul 24, 2020, 9:29 PM

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Joy

barren meadow Jul 24, 2020, 9:29 PM

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XD

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They tried buffing the prospector to try and mitigate the crap

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but it still handles sluggishly

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So let us hope for more fixes

vast summit Jul 24, 2020, 9:30 PM

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Iike its irritating, hauling is a license to print money, but mining which is more work, and more engaging, pays a pittance

barren meadow Jul 24, 2020, 9:31 PM

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At least we don't have 30k to worry about! /s

vast summit Jul 24, 2020, 9:31 PM

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That is true

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Honestly it would be nice if they upped the price a little bit on the lower end materials to make them viable.

barren meadow Jul 24, 2020, 9:32 PM

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I think what will happen, is certain materials (like quartz) will be requested by mission givers

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and pay moer

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while the more expensive stuff like laranite will be good to sell on their own

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Because right now, there really is no point to mining the crappier ore

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The mole was supposed to scratch my "bulk mining" itch

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but nah... it only has 3 times the prospector's cargo

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so you still have to cherry pick ore

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I am waiting for a bulk miner

vast summit Jul 24, 2020, 9:34 PM

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Yeah, it be nice if we could eject our bags, and mark the location with a beacon, come back and pick em up with a hauler

barren meadow Jul 24, 2020, 9:35 PM

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I think that will come with the better server optimization. Hopefully

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But i still want a strip miner of sorts

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Something that doesn't care what is mined and just eats the rock whole

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and then spits out only the inert automatically

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The Orion is pretty much the capital version of what i am talking about

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I want something Prospector/Mole sized that does that

turbid plinth Jul 24, 2020, 9:36 PM

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the rocks just need tobe bigger

vast summit Jul 24, 2020, 9:36 PM

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Or the concentrations need to be better

turbid plinth Jul 24, 2020, 9:36 PM

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there needs to be like a 20000 mass rock that takes triple helix to mine

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big boi mole rock

barren meadow Jul 24, 2020, 9:36 PM

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Mining has the benefit of being a really easy loop to make unique

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So hopefully we can get more variations

vast summit Jul 24, 2020, 9:41 PM

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Id like to see 5% for rare resources be the minimum

barren meadow Jul 24, 2020, 9:42 PM

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I mean, i don't mind a bar of sorts, but i honestly prefer a random assortment of it to be spawned you know?

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but in some areas (like mountains), maybe more materials that suit that region

vast summit Jul 24, 2020, 9:42 PM

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nods

barren meadow Jul 24, 2020, 9:43 PM

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But to be frank lol, none of this is gonna help the mining loop if the bloody ships can't even stay in the air

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without wanting to kiss the ground

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So, that needs to be addressed XD

turbid plinth Jul 24, 2020, 9:48 PM

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just land lol

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mining's never meant to be done hovering except in open space. see the promo material

barren meadow Jul 24, 2020, 9:49 PM

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Two problems with that in 3.10. One, the prospector's Flight model has absolutely been destroyed. It can barely stay in the air, takes forever to take off, and tops at about 60 in a straight line while trying to headplant

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Second problem, Mole can't land and mine effectively. The way the turrets are, it is really difficult.

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I do agree that landing with the prospector to mine is ideal, but the issue is the flight model

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and getting there in the first place lol

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This is in 3.10 of course

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In 3.9, the prospector does not have this issue

vast summit Jul 24, 2020, 9:56 PM

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I dont take the current values as gospel, and at this rate though im contemplating dropping my Prospector pledge for a Cat

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Via gray market

barren meadow Jul 24, 2020, 9:57 PM

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As a prospector lover (hmm that sounded better in my head), that makes me sad to hear 😦

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But, it is up to what you enjoy

vast summit Jul 24, 2020, 9:59 PM

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Well the price of the prospector is low enough that it doesnt seem worth $155

barren meadow Jul 24, 2020, 9:59 PM

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You speak some truths ma dude.

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But i think it is more the individual's interest in certain vehicles

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I just really enjoy my prospector 😛

vast summit Jul 24, 2020, 10:00 PM

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And for being the entry level miner it should probably be about 70-80

barren meadow Jul 24, 2020, 10:01 PM

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Probably. But too bad you don't get to change the prices 😛 Cuz i would support that change Xd

vast summit Jul 24, 2020, 10:02 PM

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I think most Prospector owners would lol

barren meadow Jul 24, 2020, 10:03 PM

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XD

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Don't regret buying it though

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Mining with it is pure joy

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Until 3.10

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....

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BRING BACK MA PROSPECTOR 💔

vast summit Jul 24, 2020, 10:03 PM

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It is, but that, coupled with being able to buy it in game...

barren meadow Jul 24, 2020, 10:04 PM

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Yeah, but that implies you have something else to make money with

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I like mining

vast summit Jul 24, 2020, 10:04 PM

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Maybe if mining were more predictable and lucrative

barren meadow Jul 24, 2020, 10:04 PM

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So until the ROC comes out

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prospector it is!

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XD

vast summit Jul 24, 2020, 10:06 PM

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I have 78k garunteed UEC, and 2 LTI packages lol, making money shouldnt be too difficult.

barren meadow Jul 24, 2020, 10:06 PM

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Yeah, but you still gotta enjoy making money ya know?

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I consider the prospector and future ROC to be my ways of making money early on

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Cuz i really don't enjoy hauling as a main income source lol

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Just as a side gig

vast summit Jul 24, 2020, 10:09 PM

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Well the way i see it, the cat will be useful for mining ops. Figure rent out warehouse space, fill warehouse with bags, haul bags to refineries where that particular ore is in demand using cat. This is long term btw

barren meadow Jul 24, 2020, 10:09 PM

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Yeah, i can see that. But that implies group mining. I am very much a solo dude, with maybe another friend sometimes

vast summit Jul 24, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Not really

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Just return and offload at the warehouse

barren meadow Jul 24, 2020, 10:12 PM

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I mean, you CAN leave your stuff behind, but that reminds me of Can mining in EVE lol

vast summit Jul 24, 2020, 10:12 PM

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Head back out

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Again this is for later in the games developement

barren meadow Jul 24, 2020, 10:12 PM

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Yeah, i gotcha

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We gotta wait with baited breath lol

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Anything can happen in a year XD

arctic blaze Jul 25, 2020, 1:34 AM

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if they nerfed lorville landing gonna be rough

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people gonna be pissed

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including me

glad cedar Jul 25, 2020, 3:33 AM

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is hdms hadley broken?

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I can't trade here

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even with a couple of logouts and a restart

vocal prairie Jul 25, 2020, 6:09 AM

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Hehehe prospector doesn't warrant a 155 price tag? I wonder how the prowler owners feel currently with a 2.5 mil pricetag. Ouch.

naive maple Jul 25, 2020, 6:47 AM

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Hehehe I wonder how the prowler owners feel currently with a 2.5 mil pricetag. Ouch.
@vocal prairie
Hahaha... really?!... well, like I have been saying all along... no need to spend dollars beyond the starter ship! I bought a single ship in 2013, and now my in-game fleet is...

naive maple Jul 25, 2020, 7:05 AM

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📎 LordWolf_Fleet_August_2020_z.png.jpg

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Looks like the Prowler will be joining the fleet if for no other reason than to scavenge off the 2x Sukoran shields for my Vanguard, and/or maybe the Banu Defender to get those Singes for my Sabre?!... hmmm

vocal prairie Jul 25, 2020, 7:53 AM

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How many times have you built that fleet up?

regal notch Jul 25, 2020, 7:55 AM

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@naive maple
Nice fleet you have after all these months 😎

woeful moss Jul 25, 2020, 8:20 AM

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I wonder at what ratio we will be able to refine ores and how much more money we will be able to make selling those

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Fly out, get ore

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But in refinery and while it's refining get more ore.

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Then use cat to go and sell refined ore

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Or smaller ship depending on ratio

lofty crest Jul 25, 2020, 8:27 AM

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i feel like refining is gonna be pretty instant to start with

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they might add timers later when more loops are added

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or when the dynamic economy comes in

blissful rain Jul 25, 2020, 10:43 AM

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@naive maple all ppledged ships?

haughty panther Jul 25, 2020, 10:55 AM

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Is there any good place for mining except yela belt

honest creek Jul 25, 2020, 12:54 PM

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Hey all, question - with the new FM changes, does anyone know if CIG has stated any intentions about the Hull A, Hull B, etc - whether or not they are intended to still be able to land planet side and depart from planets with full cargo loads?

turbid plinth Jul 25, 2020, 1:58 PM

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they were never able to land planetside

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with the cargo spine extended

naive maple Jul 25, 2020, 2:17 PM

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@regal notch @blissful rain @vocal prairie Thanks! Only been back playing Star Citizen since Quarantine, so first time built up fleet... Only Pledge ship is the 315p... used that to earn a Prospector, which earned me the Caterpillar, which earned the rest!

blissful rain Jul 25, 2020, 3:14 PM

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I so hope they don't wipe in 3.10

naive maple Jul 25, 2020, 3:46 PM

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I shouldn't be singled out for a wipe. I have less than 10 million aUEC, and made it doing a few hundred thousand aUEC per day of grinding. No duplication glitches, exploits, etc.

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Unless CIG is gonna count Laranite trading as an Exploit! LOL... then everyone is getting wiped!

blissful rain Jul 25, 2020, 3:52 PM

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What I mean is that they don't wipe us all

naive maple Jul 25, 2020, 3:55 PM

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yeah, that'll suck... back to Smuggling boxes for another month! LOL

blissful rain Jul 25, 2020, 3:58 PM

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Yea man it will suck hard

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I got 6m to spend

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Waiting on 3.10

crimson mantle Jul 25, 2020, 4:29 PM

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Hello citizens,
I'm the developer behind SC Trade Tools (https://sc-trade.tools), a Star Citizen trade route finder. I've worked long and hard lately to release new functionalities requested by you, the community! I hope you'll enjoy them!
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/hxpg1m/sc_trade_tools_updated_for_310_huge_patch/

r/starcitizen - SC Trade Tools updated for 3.10 + HUGE patch!

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woeful moss Jul 25, 2020, 5:36 PM

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Thank you for your service

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Wow, so your tool gets the prices from the game files up to date? Very awesome! @crimson mantle

crimson mantle Jul 25, 2020, 5:41 PM

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@woeful moss
Thanks for the kind words. Keep in mind that it's the base price for items though, not the real-time prices unfortunately. More info: https://github.com/EtienneLamoureux/sc-trade-tools#why-are-the-prices-reported-different-from-the-ones-in-game
Still, it's accurate for each patch.

GitHub

EtienneLamoureux/sc-trade-tools

Issues repository for SC Trade Tools. Contribute to EtienneLamoureux/sc-trade-tools development by creating an account on GitHub.

hollow sedge Jul 25, 2020, 6:42 PM

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anywhere I can easily check what ships are being added to shops in 3.10?

pallid temple Jul 25, 2020, 6:44 PM

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Not really

hollow sedge Jul 25, 2020, 6:44 PM

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that's sad
anyone happen to know then?

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lol

pallid temple Jul 25, 2020, 6:46 PM

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The main ones are the Cutlass Blue, Prowler, Carrack, MOLE, Mantis, Pisces

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890 Jump

hollow sedge Jul 25, 2020, 6:47 PM

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cool, how much are the carrack & mole going for?
I think I saw some discussion about the mole a little further up but I wasn't totally clear on it

pallid temple Jul 25, 2020, 6:48 PM

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MOLE is 5.1million

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Carrack is 26million

hollow sedge Jul 25, 2020, 6:50 PM

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thanks!

blazing rock Jul 25, 2020, 6:52 PM

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@hollow sedge check here - > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgS4o8jjJLw

YouTube

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pearl lake Jul 26, 2020, 1:58 AM

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I tried an FTL Courier mission. Went to HDMS-Thedus for the pickup. Sound stopped working. HOTAS binding for landing stopped working. Landed anyway. 😎 Message at top of screen (part of HUD, I guess) says "pick up quartz". Went inside the building, and the location glyph shows that the pick up is 3m below the floor. So, I went back outside, and walked under the building. The pickup is 2m under ground. Is this a mission to mine quartz under a building at an outpost? Weird. So, I assume FUBAR and quit the game.

hollow sedge Jul 26, 2020, 2:25 AM

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welcome to courier missions

prime oasis Jul 26, 2020, 4:39 AM

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Hey uh

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I dont usually do trading

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but uh

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I tried doing this suggested route

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and I couldnt sell stims

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at anvik

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so what would be the next best step

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just wondering if bugged or I should just go to another station

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or if I can even sell stims at these places

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nvm got an answer in game

blissful rain Jul 26, 2020, 8:34 AM

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https://sc-trade.tools/home

SC Trade Tools

Optimized Star Citizen trade routes

woeful moss Jul 26, 2020, 8:39 AM

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@crimson mantle love you website, but one thing irks me. Jones just posted a screen of it and the best buyer tab says "where to sell ore you mined" but i see no way to separate between raw laranite and trading terminal laranite or am I missing something?

ashen epoch Jul 26, 2020, 1:01 PM

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oh gods the antics that will happen with the tractor beam on multi tool when it comes out XD

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oh look you dropped bottle from drinking or so on tractor beam by other player gets thrown at you "DONT LITTER!

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but its first steps to the loader beds and setting stuff down in proper cargo grid im betting though

crimson mantle Jul 26, 2020, 1:30 PM

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@woeful moss are you talking about hand-minables and ship-minables?

woeful moss Jul 26, 2020, 1:35 PM

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Yes, both.

hollow sedge Jul 26, 2020, 1:35 PM

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anyone know how to spawn in space port

crimson mantle Jul 26, 2020, 1:35 PM

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Alright, let me cross-check the data. I do only have 1 laranite in there right now.

hollow sedge Jul 26, 2020, 1:35 PM

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there is not option for me

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im new to the game

crimson mantle Jul 26, 2020, 1:36 PM

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@hollow sedge you spawn where you last landed, if they have beds

hollow sedge Jul 26, 2020, 1:36 PM

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i just started idk what to do

crimson mantle Jul 26, 2020, 1:36 PM

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at the start you have to be in a city

hollow sedge Jul 26, 2020, 1:36 PM

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it dosent say

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the only place i can spawn is hanger

crimson mantle Jul 26, 2020, 1:38 PM

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if you login and look at this page, does it say that you have a game package?
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/download

Download - Roberts Space Industries | Follow the development of Star Citizen and Squadron 42

Roberts Space Industries is the official go-to website for all news about Star Citizen and Squadron 42. It also hosts the online store for game items and merch, as well as all the community tools used by our fans.

hollow sedge Jul 26, 2020, 1:39 PM

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yes

crimson mantle Jul 26, 2020, 1:40 PM

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oh ok

hollow sedge Jul 26, 2020, 1:40 PM

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i launched the game and cant do anything

crimson mantle Jul 26, 2020, 1:42 PM

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you can try:

close the game and the launcher completly
delete this folder: StarCitizen\LIVE\USER (the USER folder)
open the launcher, login and try again

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if you still have issues, you might want to get support: https://support.robertsspaceindustries.com/hc/en-us

crimson mantle Jul 26, 2020, 2:12 PM

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@prime oasis Yeah, sometimes a station will be full and won't buy an item while it refreshes. You can see the refresh rates by clicking the option on the left :)
If you don't feel like waiting, the /best-buyer page can help you find other buyers, and you can restrict it by location (let's say "Crusader > Stanton") to only show what's close-by!

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crimson mantle Jul 26, 2020, 2:32 PM

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@woeful moss It seems that trade terminal laranite is the same as the minable form:
https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/3357406/88481752-40725700-cf2b-11ea-9ae3-5c81cfeef360.png

woeful moss Jul 26, 2020, 3:06 PM

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Oh okay. Because you can only sell the mineable at the refinery terminals

lament herald Jul 26, 2020, 3:23 PM

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Right now what us the most lucrative trade route, and material to trade?

crimson mantle Jul 26, 2020, 5:10 PM

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@lament herald it depends on your ship, whether or not you want to sell vices and your current UEC balance

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Play around with my tool https://sc-trade.tools/trade-routes and find out what's best for you!

SC Trade Tools

Optimized Star Citizen trade routes

prime oasis Jul 26, 2020, 5:30 PM

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@crimson mantle Oh for sure! Yeah im very new to trading, thats super helpful ThumbsUP

timber compass Jul 27, 2020, 4:28 AM

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People who gun down Prospectors as they're coming in to land are pathetic

woeful moss Jul 27, 2020, 6:12 AM

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People are pathetic. FTFY

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@crimson mantle Oh cool thx, I was wondering due to the mineable Laranite only being sellable at a refinery terminal

naive maple Jul 27, 2020, 6:22 AM

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@crimson mantle the 315p incorrectly has 2 SCU.... It actually has 12 SCU

woeful moss Jul 27, 2020, 6:22 AM

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I don't understand this route it offers

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With the old view you could see the maximum you could earn with a circular route, but somehow this is not available on the new site

hollow sedge Jul 27, 2020, 8:19 AM

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@timber compass I just stopped taking risks after getting burnt enough times on unsafe routes lol

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Bought me a quick quantum drive and just do long & safe routes now

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seeing Cellin triggers my PTSD now

lofty crest Jul 27, 2020, 10:13 AM

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RN circular trade routes in SC arent a thing, mainly because we dont have enough selling stations or a functioning economy therefore most routes are bare as

crimson mantle Jul 27, 2020, 12:33 PM

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@naive maple I'm parsing https://robertsspaceindustries.com/ship-matrix for ship data. Seems like it's not up-to date (what a surprise)! Let me correct that.

Ship Matrix - Roberts Space Industries | Follow the development of Star Citizen and Squadron 42

Roberts Space Industries is the official go-to website for all news about Star Citizen and Squadron 42. It also hosts the online store for game items and merch, as well as all the community tools used by our fans.

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@woeful moss Oh interesting find! What did you put in the form to get it to suggest you this?

woeful moss Jul 27, 2020, 2:02 PM

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@crimson mantle

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this one is similar

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like why fly to nt999 xx

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I will show you my input

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same parameters

crimson mantle Jul 27, 2020, 2:04 PM

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Thanks. I have a good idea on what's going on now 🙂

woeful moss Jul 27, 2020, 2:05 PM

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same with 5000000 uec

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okay

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🙂

delicate phoenix Jul 27, 2020, 3:32 PM

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I have a simple question that I have been having a hard time finding the answer to. Are we able to buy and sell cargo from a part member's ship yet?

pallid temple Jul 27, 2020, 3:43 PM

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No

delicate phoenix Jul 27, 2020, 3:45 PM

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That's what I thought! Thanks!

hollow sedge Jul 28, 2020, 3:19 AM

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can u rent a caterpillar rn

tired scarab Jul 28, 2020, 3:57 AM

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Somone ping me with response pls, is the rutsack or red armor better for FPS mining?

limpid spear Jul 28, 2020, 4:11 AM

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@tired scarab I haven't tried either, but you need to know what planet you are mining on. Not all suits can withstand the high or low temperatures.

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Pembroke is for Hot Planets and Novikov is for cold. Novikov has some storage space in to too, I haven't used my Pembroke yet.

brave agate Jul 28, 2020, 7:37 AM

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Pembroke and Novikov both have 120 scu of storage vs Rucksack's 60. Both protect from extreme temps but as they are heavy armor they limit mobility.

pallid temple Jul 28, 2020, 7:37 AM

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Yeah no

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The Pembroke and Novikok have about 130thousand microSCU

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Its nowhere near close to an SCU

brave agate Jul 28, 2020, 7:38 AM

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Point is they carry twice as much as rucksack

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I wasnt clear on the technicallities. Either way it doesnt matter because in the end the choice is protection and capacity or mobility

pallid temple Jul 28, 2020, 7:41 AM

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Pretty much

brave agate Jul 28, 2020, 7:43 AM

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I have never filled the 2 heavy armors. The caves tend to crash the game after so long, that or you get stuck. I would use rucksack personally because the extra speed helps with jumps

sacred tangle Jul 28, 2020, 1:16 PM

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Is there a good ship I can rent for larger cargo runs than the freelancer loaner?

crimson mantle Jul 28, 2020, 1:40 PM

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freelancer max/constellation

naive maple Jul 28, 2020, 2:38 PM

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@sacred tangle Can’t rent the MAX... so, just the Connie, but it isn’t really worth it at 30 extra SCU with a high rental cost... BUY the MAX once you have enough aUEC... that is double the SCU of the loaner Lancer

sacred tangle Jul 28, 2020, 3:21 PM

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10-4 @naive maple thanks!

crimson mantle Jul 28, 2020, 4:20 PM

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@woeful moss
@naive maple
(Almost) Just for you guys ;)
https://github.com/EtienneLamoureux/sc-trade-tools/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md#141

See the updates in action: https://sc-trade.tools/home

SC Trade Tools

Optimized Star Citizen trade routes

GitHub

EtienneLamoureux/sc-trade-tools

Issues repository for SC Trade Tools. Contribute to EtienneLamoureux/sc-trade-tools development by creating an account on GitHub.

latent pasture Jul 28, 2020, 4:33 PM

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that is the 22nd server in a row where Arial terminals don't work

turbid plinth Jul 28, 2020, 5:28 PM

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@latent pasture that’s servers crashing nonstop and restarting. Lot of crashes these two days

latent pasture Jul 28, 2020, 5:40 PM

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so it would seem

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23rd server worked

woeful moss Jul 28, 2020, 5:41 PM

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@crimson mantle not fixed yet, sorry bro

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And if I could make one feature request it would be that somewhere the total amount of profit is shown for the circular run

crimson mantle Jul 28, 2020, 6:06 PM

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Ah, interesting! Well, enjoy the new filters while I fix that thing again.

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@woeful moss funnily enough, what you sent is actually something different! I won't get technical, but it's a separate behaviour. Still something that needs to get fixed.
Thanks for the feedback!

woeful moss Jul 28, 2020, 7:20 PM

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Anytime, you have a great idea there, I want to support that any way I can

frail cairn Jul 29, 2020, 8:13 AM

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anyone know how to sell "illegal" laranite?

lofty crest Jul 29, 2020, 9:19 AM

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levski maybe?

harsh vale Jul 29, 2020, 10:41 AM

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anyone know how to sell "illegal" laranite?
@frail cairn illegal? Can you explain?

frail cairn Jul 29, 2020, 10:48 AM

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its like in cargo boxes

blissful rain Jul 29, 2020, 10:51 AM

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Trading in 3.10 wil be different

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couple of things

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first of all the new flight model

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it will be challenging and slower to land in cities like nb, lorville etc

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You wil easily get destroyed by a griever who is experienced in the new target and flight model

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Mining may be better

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and infact, now doable to do it in pairs

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and also its worth doing trade/cargo runs in pairs too

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the new trading app will let u exhcange profits between u 2

turbid plinth Jul 29, 2020, 12:25 PM

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hauling's been fixed

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prices no longer static

blissful rain Jul 29, 2020, 1:03 PM

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has that been mentioned in the release notes?

lofty crest Jul 29, 2020, 1:38 PM

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if the case will we see an economy sometime soon??

blissful rain Jul 29, 2020, 2:01 PM

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if its not sttaic they what drives the rpices

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i dont think this is true

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else this would be one of the main headlines

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ie new dynamic economy of materials/trading

turbid plinth Jul 29, 2020, 2:05 PM

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its a very basic system that's been there forever. Stores just reduce in value as they restock

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buy and sell

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if they reach max inventory the value goes back up again

woeful moss Jul 29, 2020, 2:06 PM

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no more unlimited laranite on bedzek and that other place 😄

lofty crest Jul 29, 2020, 2:12 PM

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sweats in area 45 mining

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ah shit

crimson mantle Jul 29, 2020, 2:24 PM

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@frail cairn Is the cargo marked as stolen? if that's the case, try https://sc-trade.tools/best-buyer and check "Stolen cargo"

SC Trade Tools

Optimized Star Citizen trade routes

brave agate Jul 29, 2020, 2:35 PM

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don't know how mining will be better, last time i flew the mole in 3.10 you couldnt hold still to mine a rock and it took everything it had not to nose dive into the dirt

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prospector seems a little better since the thruster buff but steadiness is still an issue

ashen epoch Jul 29, 2020, 3:55 PM

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could it be that in atmosphere your ment to land to mine?

lean wedge Jul 29, 2020, 5:51 PM

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anyone else unable to sell medical supplies to HDMS Lathan?

barren meadow Jul 29, 2020, 5:56 PM

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@ashen epoch It isn't the landing to mine that is the issue. it is the fact the prospector and MOLE can barely stay in the air, and barely get out of atmosphere. They are also REALLY slow. Slower than sin. They need another thruster buff, because it is comical how unstable and slow they are

crimson mantle Jul 29, 2020, 7:06 PM

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@lean wedge according to https://sc-trade.tools/best-buyer, that shop has a very small inventory and refresh rate for medical supplies

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SC Trade Tools

Optimized Star Citizen trade routes

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so it might be bought-out

inner totem Jul 29, 2020, 7:45 PM

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is there some trick to planetary ship mining and finding rocks i dont know or is it just fly around and scan?

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cause me and my crew have only found 1 rock in 30 minutes.

delicate phoenix Jul 29, 2020, 8:29 PM

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Fly around and scan

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Are you hitting tab to go to scan mode and using the right click scan?

inner totem Jul 29, 2020, 8:36 PM

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yup, we both were.

delicate phoenix Jul 29, 2020, 8:43 PM

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Then you had a spot of bad luck.

cloud slate Jul 29, 2020, 11:10 PM

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i feel more rocks need to be available to mine, ground mining is so horrible its just not worth your time. Like damn fly around in a ship for 30mins and you dont find anything....what does that mean for a poor Roc which is slower and has less range on scanners....

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the worst possible outcome currently is you waste all that time looking to then find a rock which isnt worth the time to mine since it would bring in a tiny amount of profit

delicate phoenix Jul 29, 2020, 11:53 PM

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I feel like the barrier to entry is intentional. If this game is truly going to on a scale that RSI is trying to convey, then the solo miner would have a hard time, and the idea would be that you join an mining org. You mine for them and get a cut or something, like a tip share at a restaurant.

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Or hell, even a weekly salary so long as you contribute enough.

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Otherwise you'll just turn the game into Elite Dangerous were it only takes you a few days to have billions of credits.

cloud slate Jul 30, 2020, 12:34 AM

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oh im not saying the prices or barriers need to change but the issue is you have 1 rock that can be mined in like a 20km x 20km area is actually not realistic at all.

proven token Jul 30, 2020, 2:18 AM

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Yea mining, although implemented, isn't in a "good place"

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Its like random, and dosn't feel like you have much control over your success

delicate phoenix Jul 30, 2020, 2:49 AM

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Maybe if they had some quarry system, but I just see increasing the amount of rocks on the surface that can be mined as a means to break the proposed economy.

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If you look at how we extract ores in real life, very little of is comes from the surface.

cloud slate Jul 30, 2020, 3:14 AM

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Asteroid mining will already break the economy onces its fully implemented since your going to be able to mine large amounts of minerals without ever have to enter atmo

inner totem Jul 30, 2020, 5:17 AM

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anyone know what the second set of numbers on the scanner means for the ore?

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woeful moss Jul 30, 2020, 5:46 AM

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It kinda translates to the chance of finding big chunks of that ore

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The chance for 100% Beryl chunks is higher than for diamond

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@inner totem

inner totem Jul 30, 2020, 5:47 AM

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cool, thanks for the info.

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not sure if that's worth adding into the spreadsheet im working on though.

woeful gazelle Jul 30, 2020, 5:51 AM

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actually that is not quite true. if you add all components of the stone, the second number always adds up to 100%.

woeful moss Jul 30, 2020, 5:51 AM

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yeah it's the composition of the stone and for me it was always like that so if 86% of the stone are beryl you have a higher chance of finding 100% chunks when breaking it

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The rest is that useless stuff

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don't remember the name

woeful gazelle Jul 30, 2020, 5:52 AM

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but it doesn't take Inert Materials into account

woeful moss Jul 30, 2020, 5:52 AM

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Nope, that's the useless stuff I meant 😄

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Doesn't take that into account

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So of course both numbers together are important

inner totem Jul 30, 2020, 6:00 AM

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so, in short, left number is percentage of mineable mass, right number is densisty/how likely you are to find more of it in a chunk after you fracture.

urban ledge Jul 30, 2020, 6:44 AM

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Can anyone explain why it’s in negatives

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Got a cat full at daymar of widow and E’tam. Grim took too long to sell , so I saw that you can sell at Cru4. Flew over there. Sold everything and made no returns. Checked Gallog and it shows that those are negative profits.

woeful gazelle Jul 30, 2020, 6:55 AM

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maybe you sold it for less than you bought it for?

inner totem Jul 30, 2020, 7:00 AM

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how accurate is gallog.co? it's showing different prices for ores than what someone else sent me.

urban ledge Jul 30, 2020, 7:01 AM

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Im gonna assume that 24.48 is what it sells for

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woeful gazelle Jul 30, 2020, 7:01 AM

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it can never be exact as the game changes the prices constantly. however it should give you a rough estimate

cloud slate Jul 30, 2020, 8:30 AM

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Gallog is always like 99% accurate when i use it so expect it to be off by abit but not that much

inner totem Jul 30, 2020, 10:17 AM

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are any ships able to scan for rocks or are mining capable ships the only ones that can find mineable rocks?

cloud slate Jul 30, 2020, 10:26 AM

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i think eventually explo ships will be able to do it but most wont have the scanners for that i dont think

pallid temple Jul 30, 2020, 10:38 AM

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@inner totem As of 3.10, all the ships will be able to scan for rocks mined with a ship and ROC mineable rocks

cloud slate Jul 30, 2020, 10:38 AM

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ah ok cool

pallid temple Jul 30, 2020, 10:41 AM

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Which if you think about it, it makes sense since we now have a ground mining vehicle

supple aspen Jul 30, 2020, 10:47 AM

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@pallid temple sry for asking , but which vehicle will that be?

pallid temple Jul 30, 2020, 11:00 AM

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The Greycat ROC

slender creek Jul 30, 2020, 12:26 PM

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Hello! Will be the prospector avaible to mine the little rocks the greycat will farm pls?

regal notch Jul 30, 2020, 12:53 PM

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Is there a good cargo ship to rent as an upgrade from the freelancer base? @sacred tangle
Max one , for trading only Caterpillar etc .

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@slender creek
For what I know , the smaller the rock is the smaller the device is so prospector and Mole mine medium/big asteroid/rocks , ROC medium/small and the mining too the small/smallest ones .
Depending on mining heads for vehicles .

delicate phoenix Jul 30, 2020, 12:58 PM

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Cat puts a target on you for greifers, unless you have some friends to run protection.

pallid temple Jul 30, 2020, 12:59 PM

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@slender creek Those smaller rocks require such little energy a Prospector would blow it up straight away

little silo Jul 30, 2020, 2:12 PM

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if anyone wants me to help with their mining/ trading dm me

lethal kayak Jul 30, 2020, 5:10 PM

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@urban ledge CRU-L4 is the dev's dump terminal.... all prices are 30% of buying prices... it's used to sell all cargo that u usually can't....

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So basically if you sold stuff there you were dumping it at a 75% loss

urban ledge Jul 30, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Yeah after looking around on Gallog, I noticed the selling price was like in 20s while everywhere else was in the 100s plus lol. So now I learned the hard way not to go there lol

hardy flint Jul 31, 2020, 12:11 AM

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The ROC was in a video

hybrid wadi Jul 31, 2020, 1:29 AM

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Anyone wanna team up for mining I will do my own mining I just don’t have a ship to find a good spot I’ll do my own hand mining just need a ride

inner totem Jul 31, 2020, 3:06 AM

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oh my...

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bleh... it's all quant, bryl, quartz, and aluminium. if i wasnt flying solo atm i'd mine for the quant.

proven token Jul 31, 2020, 6:23 AM

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Yea, those large groups of cruddy stuff is disapointing

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Not sure when mining that stuff will be viable, maybe if you had a refinery ship

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Once the economy is in, there is a potential for those resources to sell well to certine factories too

slender creek Jul 31, 2020, 8:44 AM

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@regal notch @pallid temple ok thanks for the answer guys, i hope it will be worth as the begening to have a prospector, if no maybe i'll upgrade for something with big guns 😁 have nice day all and happy mining/cargo

lethal kayak Jul 31, 2020, 8:58 AM

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@inner totem will the 3.10 have the asteroid (?) signs after scan like in the past?

foggy nacelle Jul 31, 2020, 2:40 PM

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caves are scary. i almost got lost in one. I did get a little ore though 😄 I laid down a few chemlights and I think that's the only way I found my way out of the cave

brisk sapphire Jul 31, 2020, 5:15 PM

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evening all , anyone know if the ROC is testabubble in the PTU for wave 1 or 2

pallid temple Jul 31, 2020, 5:46 PM

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No

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If you're not Evocati then you won't have access to it @brisk sapphire

brisk sapphire Jul 31, 2020, 5:48 PM

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well thats a shame , but thanks @pallid temple o7

inner totem Jul 31, 2020, 9:26 PM

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not sure if anyone here will care but im working on gathering data on all the rocks i come across. this is what my effort has given so far. this is just a what i've gotten from the 56 rocks i've put in so far but i think the numbers are interesting so far. Density isnt taken into consideration when calcualting the avg value. it's just there to be there.

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ornate rock Jul 31, 2020, 9:38 PM

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are you mining in the same location?

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I think it could be interesting to see if rock sizes and value change with location, iirc the sizes in yela belt (maybe all belts) are much more uniform, while the ones on moons are all over the place

inner totem Jul 31, 2020, 9:40 PM

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space seems to be around 5112 or so, but im spreading ymself out as much as possible.

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like literally any roccks in space.

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though i have seen a 7k rock on the ground.

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which would be the 1 taranite sample i have

ornate rock Jul 31, 2020, 9:41 PM

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I think that especially the value / location would be the most interesting thing

inner totem Jul 31, 2020, 9:42 PM

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i might do specific locations once i get a prospector so im not doing all this in a mole.

ornate rock Jul 31, 2020, 9:42 PM

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can't you do asteroid scanning in every ship now? monkaHmm

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3.10 I mean

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I need to try if the mustang can actually sniff out rocks now that'd be interesting

inner totem Jul 31, 2020, 9:43 PM

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in 3.10 maybe, but im also looking to get a profit out of all this.

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so i'll still be mining

pallid temple Jul 31, 2020, 9:47 PM

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Yeah for 3.10 every ship will be able to scan for mineable rocks

ornate rock Jul 31, 2020, 9:52 PM

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I might actually do that for a while, offer scanning services to miners

marsh umbra Aug 1, 2020, 1:59 AM

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they add yet the ability to save qtravel locations?

vague ridge Aug 1, 2020, 3:12 AM

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Anyone notice a change with the way the hidden terminals are working tonight? They're only allowing me to sell 75 units at a time, and at a much lower price than earlier today.

haughty river Aug 1, 2020, 3:26 AM

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same, 10-20 units at a time for me, selling widow

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i've got over 2000 units left to sell, this ain't gunna work

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now it's up to 42 units

urban ledge Aug 1, 2020, 3:31 AM

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A lot of people that I’ve talked to on the servers are having trouble buying laranite, so I don’t even know what’s going on with the trades

haughty river Aug 1, 2020, 3:34 AM

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yeah it's going from being able to sell a little bit, to not being able to sell at all

urban ledge Aug 1, 2020, 3:55 AM

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Yeah hopped in another server and people are having trouble buying full cargo on certain things lol

hollow sedge Aug 1, 2020, 4:22 AM

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Can't sell laranite at PO

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they're just Not Havin It

hollow sedge Aug 1, 2020, 5:17 AM

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...shoot, how do I make money now

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I only got here during 3.9 so idk the strats for this

urban ledge Aug 1, 2020, 5:31 AM

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Yeah seemed like all major things to sell was down, only thing I could full load and sell was diamonds

hollow sedge Aug 1, 2020, 5:36 AM

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I was just at tram for a full 20 minutes afk

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nobody showed up

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the party is over, boys

granite dune Aug 1, 2020, 5:46 AM

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so there's no way to sell laranite anymore? lol

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any idea if the update is coming soon?

urban ledge Aug 1, 2020, 5:58 AM

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Someone made a post on reddit about it too

hollow sedge Aug 1, 2020, 6:27 AM

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for real, though, what was the strategy for trading before it was broken in 3.9

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like, I still have ships to buy!

turbid plinth Aug 1, 2020, 6:51 AM

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so they've fixed the infinite trading?

rain tundra Aug 1, 2020, 6:51 AM

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Yeah it's unfortunate. Seems like all the commonly traded high value goods, medicine, alcohol, laranite, agricium, they're all low supply low demand

turbid plinth Aug 1, 2020, 6:58 AM

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oh boy

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F

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to all the newcomers welcome to the old world

rain tundra Aug 1, 2020, 6:59 AM

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Guess it's back to running boxes and mining

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guess this'll make more people want to get into mining with the roc

turbid plinth Aug 1, 2020, 7:01 AM

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no one's gonna have the ROC tho. Its pledge only

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real money 50$ for a car

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and whoever has one definitely wont have more than 1 to run a gang

unique lion Aug 1, 2020, 7:02 AM

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monkaS

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I uh

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I gotta go

turbid plinth Aug 1, 2020, 7:02 AM

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🐳

unique lion Aug 1, 2020, 7:03 AM

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I'll probably get it tbh. If only just to show it to people and let them try it

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Don't really need it

urban ledge Aug 1, 2020, 7:03 AM

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So I’m assuming invest into mining now lol

turbid plinth Aug 1, 2020, 7:04 AM

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get those prospectors

urban ledge Aug 1, 2020, 7:04 AM

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I just wanted to recover my 2mil that I failed in my drug runs pain5

unique lion Aug 1, 2020, 7:04 AM

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Mining takes some patience and know how to make pay off

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But once it does, it's safer than cargo hauling as a 30k can't screw you out of your UEC

urban ledge Aug 1, 2020, 7:05 AM

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That’s how I lost my 2nd mil in the drug run was too a 30k lol

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The first one, was that I didn’t know that Cru4 was a dump trading post umm

slate crane Aug 1, 2020, 7:12 AM

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guys what happened to trade stations? no cargo to buy, unable to sell :S

turbid plinth Aug 1, 2020, 7:12 AM

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they've reconnected the server supply to each other

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now all servers are sharing the supply and demand. which was how it's always been before last month

slate crane Aug 1, 2020, 7:13 AM

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thats not bad, but shouldnt they have raised to availability?

turbid plinth Aug 1, 2020, 7:13 AM

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so imagine dozens of ppl fighting for loads

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shrugs

slate crane Aug 1, 2020, 7:15 AM

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any suggestions for a starter how to make money now? :S

turbid plinth Aug 1, 2020, 7:16 AM

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to be clear, everyone will be making 1/4 what they made during the boom

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or less

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the hurston deliveries for 15k each probably the next best thing now

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or combat missions around Hurston

slate crane Aug 1, 2020, 7:18 AM

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well, time to adapt 😄

unique lion Aug 1, 2020, 7:21 AM

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Can also do the crime based missions for more

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So long as you don't get caught

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50% higher payout that the lawful ones

hollow sedge Aug 1, 2020, 7:32 AM

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1/4 or less, damn

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is trading even worth it at that point

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right after I got that Max, too
If I'd known I'd just be doing package delivery I could have spent my 2.2 mil on the Khartu as was my original plan
I shoulda seen it coming tho

rain tundra Aug 1, 2020, 7:35 AM

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Probably back to titanium runs

rough void Aug 1, 2020, 7:57 AM

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So the fat times are over, eh? Was just a matter of time. Thanks god i waited with buying the cat

hollow sedge Aug 1, 2020, 8:10 AM

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As a new player.. I knew I was making more than I was supposed to, but I wish I had known the magnitude of how much

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Gonna be hard going back to "normal" progression speeds after starting the game going so fast

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The fact that what I was pulling in on one 10 min trip on a mid-tier cargo hauler- about 80-90k, give or take- is something that is now a matter of maybe hours (based off my experience with package delivery)... Yeesh!

turbid plinth Aug 1, 2020, 8:13 AM

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HEADS UP: IF YOU"RE HAULING LARANITE DO NOT GO TO PO

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PO IS BUYING @ 28UEC/unit

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DOWN FROM 31

hollow sedge Aug 1, 2020, 8:14 AM

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Gotta get that sweet 1 uec profit

pliant matrix Aug 1, 2020, 8:23 AM

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I've been out of the game for months now. Is mining more stable now? back then there was 30k sometimes and latencies between laser power and heat gauge. And sometimes mats disappeared from the prospector cargo too

cloud slate Aug 1, 2020, 8:30 AM

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seriously 1/4 it wont be worthwhile running cargo at all wow, the fact delivery missions could be more profitable is just outrageous, i know itt willl change again but thats crazy

turbid plinth Aug 1, 2020, 8:38 AM

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some numbers.

A full freelancer @ 66SCU wants to fill laranite to make 30+k profit:

Now tnm resupplies 10SCU/10mins. so 1 hour to fill
sell at Lorville because PO is down. double the travel time

the tram lara route went from 10mins to 1 hour 15

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half that on a good day, longer on a bad one. Because now all servers are fighting for the same supply

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if you guys have 2 mil get a prospector. mining is unchanged

rough void Aug 1, 2020, 8:49 AM

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yep, i just bought mine. now we just have to be careful and look over our shoulders. the "pirates" will look for new targets when the trade traffic dies down.

proven token Aug 1, 2020, 8:54 AM

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Blowing up miners is basicly clubbing baby seals lol

rough void Aug 1, 2020, 8:54 AM

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Which sounds exactly like something that these jackasses would enjoy

pallid temple Aug 1, 2020, 8:54 AM

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*Blowing up miners without protection is clubbing baby seals

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There's a difference to it but I'll let it slide

rough void Aug 1, 2020, 8:56 AM

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The question is whether it is still worth it if you have to pay for protection. If you have to share all mining profits, both participants could probably earn more if they did anything else solo.

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But, have not tried it yet.

ornate rock Aug 1, 2020, 8:56 AM

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how much is it worth if you get blown up?

pallid temple Aug 1, 2020, 8:57 AM

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Depends when you get blown up

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And what you mined

ornate rock Aug 1, 2020, 8:57 AM

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tbf right now paying an escort for a mining trip isn't really feasible

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could change with 3.10 though, you can send them off to do scanning for the most part and jump to you for protection

pallid temple Aug 1, 2020, 8:58 AM

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Effectively

rough void Aug 1, 2020, 8:58 AM

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can some fighter / battleships scan for minerals?

ornate rock Aug 1, 2020, 8:59 AM

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I don't think any combat pilot wants to sit around a miner watching them break rocks while effectively doing nothing for... hundreds of hours

rough void Aug 1, 2020, 8:59 AM

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that would be indeed usefull then. having a spotter + protection

pallid temple Aug 1, 2020, 8:59 AM

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As of 3.10 all ships will be able to scan for mineables

rough void Aug 1, 2020, 8:59 AM

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oh thats good to know

ornate rock Aug 1, 2020, 8:59 AM

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in 3.10 every ship should be able to, I've not tried it myself... was too busy messing with new controls

rough void Aug 1, 2020, 8:59 AM

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in that case it could speed up the whole process quite considerable

ornate rock Aug 1, 2020, 9:01 AM

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yepp, since scanning is the part that takes the most time, you can probably have two or even three people out scanning for rocks, while one person goes around just mining

rough void Aug 1, 2020, 9:03 AM

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but how does the spotter report the found deposits? i mean we can't share scan-data, can we? and we have no coordinate system or even a compass

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you can't say "next is 20° east. 10km" or so

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