thats not a problem , thats gameplay.
#industrial-professions
limpid spear
We've just been discussing griefing in the current build. No one is concerned about pirates being pirates when the game mechanics allow some semblance of ability to protect yourself.
hollow sedge
Escorts
regal notch
@naive maple
Yeahhhhhh with all that I agree ... but it is part of the game to have people like that , in fact it will not recommended ever to solo play when the game gets at certain point
limpid spear
The economy doesn't really incentivize escorts yet.
naive maple
And those shitstains kamikaze’ing any Caterpillar approaching Port Olisar... is that more “gameplay”
regal notch
100k to 300k a run doesnt incentivize escorting ? wtf ?
naive maple
At the very least those kamikazes should get the Crimestat for the murder of the Cat pilot and wake up in prison
peak root
you dont necessarily die
limpid spear
The currency isn't persistent yet, at least as far as I know. That's the incentive I mean.
peak root
at least in the hammerhead or sythe
if i ram my ramming blade into the cockpit only you die
i run off and fix my wing
then ram another you
regal notch
it is persistent I have everything since 3.8.2
naive maple
Wow you’re so cool
naive maple
No you can’t take my cargo... that’s the whole point
naive maple
Practicing ramming?
regal notch
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
regal notch
You know right that they are adding armor values etc ?
naive maple
There has to be some $5 game out there for you called bumper cars or something
regal notch
I had a glaive 
peak root
cool
so you know
its fun as hell
its easier with the glaive
because you can use either side
regal notch
2 blades 
peak root
yep
regal notch
#industrial-professions before it goes #off-topic-not-sc hahaha
peak root
with the hammerhead you just ram it and push it aside, eventually use the tractors to hold it.
naive maple
Like I said, if you could actually acquire my cargo, then I would commend you on your successful Piracy... but you can’t yet... so... what is it you get aside from the satisfaction of the misery of others?
vocal cradle
Yup
regal notch
@naive maple
Actually you will benefit a lot :
Devs my actually reinforce zones were the pilot is
hollow sedge
Yeh, and me sneaking onto ships, killing the driver, then putting it on self destruct teaches valuable life skills about paying the fuck attention
regal notch
ohohohohoh Sonic booms near pilot zone muhahahaha
naive maple
Perhaps you have a point regarding the testing of weaknesses inherent to locations like PO
regal notch
The more they break the game the more fixies you will get 😄
peak root
its much easier to find something fun and good with a situation than something bad. dont let yourself be conditioned that way
naive maple
It just is so futile and malignant since you, the murder tester, doesn’t actually GAIN anything... like “testing” is the excuse to spread suffering
vocal cradle
I want them to fix the 30ks
peak root
its your choice to suffer man
youre playing the game where you can be attacked
and you know it
theres like a billion other games where you can do these things w/o being attacked
and its your choice to have that reaction to the thing happening
naive maple
I suppose I would rather drop half the profit’s worth of Laranite and Quantum away leaving the Pirate with the choice of taking $150,000 or we all die
regal notch
The issue is that in Alpha it doesnt matter when you test it because if they dont test it now the devs might not make changes to the game accordingly to the results .
No action no reaction no consequence = no ne features escluding ones that have to come anyway .
peak root
i dont know why anyone is getting mad
limpid spear
I agree with you JDAC, definitely adds an element to the game that you should be paying attention.
peak root
it makes absolutely 0 sense
regal notch
Agreed but its like 4 months I don't do serious cargo runs , still ended in prison for 2 weeks straight .
limpid spear
Everyone is "good game starved." They are pouring their hearts and souls hoping Star Citizen will be beautiful one day. They invested quite a bit in it.
naive maple
i dont know why anyone is getting mad
@peak root people who can’t afford expensive ships paying with dollars are grinding away like the game is real now (not another 7 years from now) in order to buy a 600i or a Hammerhead to enjoy... and then someone clears their accounts laughing like a hyena in chat claiming “testing”... that’s why
peak root
your choice bud
you knew when you run cargo what youre getting into
especially expensive cargo on high-target routes
regal notch
The point is that there is no point to grid on the game now , unless you really want to test those ships for "free"
peak root
yep
naive maple
Yep
limpid spear
Oh I was just in this conversation for the etymology of it. I don't make serious cargo runs, I just have my loaner freelancer, I just got tired of being space UPS so thought I'd see what the hubbub is.
peak root
and plus heres the thing
the only real pvp in the game right now stems from attacking these routes.
the only other pvp is bounty hunting
thats it
and thats lame
naive maple
I agree with you JDAC, definitely adds an element to the game that you should be paying attention.
@limpid spear absolutely!... no one has ever snuck aboard my cat and not for lack of trying, but rather I’m paying VERY CLOSE ATTENTION! LOL
peak root
you can get more action running these routs for an hour than you can in bounty hunting for 5 days
regal notch
limpid spear
I definitely watch elevators at stations now. I had someone try to take one with me and I took off running, they came after me and I realized there was a group of them. haha
regal notch
lol
peak root
so if CIG wants no more pirating they need to create some kind of place where real PVP can happen
then everyone will go there
hollow sedge
PYRO "stay tuned"
regal notch
like Pyro
peak root
and traders will be free to trade
regal notch
that will never happen
limpid spear
I have to admit, I also got my first PVP kill over T&M. The guy was just unloading on a connie parked on the ground.
naive maple
I never let the elevator on the Cat ever hit the ground, switch it to retract half way down and jump off... stillwaiting to get cut in half by it someday
peak root
once theres more , no way
regal notch
In 50 sure lol I still don't encounter anyone even if I go all around Stanton in 16 hours 😄
limpid spear
I have an issue with my freelancer, I sometimes end up on top of it when trying to climb in the airlock so I have to open the cargo bay and walk through. It's risky, but it's my work around.
blissful rain
I have to admit, I also got my first PVP kill over T&M. The guy was just unloading on a connie parked on the ground.
@limpid spear You killed someone who was minding there own business trading?
well done.....
peak root
also, next patch , if the turrets are the way theyre supposed to be, youre gonna see a hughe increase in player escorts and the ability for the cargo ships to defend themselves
with the finance app
limpid spear
Sorry, but "unloading" I meant firing all their weapons, not unloading cargo.
naive maple
@limpid spear I feel bad for the Carrack and their snails pace ramp that a whole army can board at will
blissful rain
o ok so u killed a pirate
regal notch
Lord that is some risky get outs from a cat , but fortunately some glitch will pop you out eventually
limpid spear
Well the Carrack's are supposed to be all by themselves out in deep space. Let's hope no one is using them for mostly cargo runs. That's an expensive cargo ship to repair and maintain.
regal notch
Freelancer is bugged af
naive maple
@regal notch too often I hit the ground and someone is standing there under my Cat
limpid spear
well I also stand on the top of my 315p once in awhile too, so I think it's on multiple ships. haha
naive maple
@limpid spear almost always first boarding
limpid spear
Last night, I kept seeing unattended Cat landing gear still outside T&M. No ship, just landing gear, sometimes it was moving all creepy like. 😄
regal notch
I saw those quite often also at PO
naive maple
Remnants of a Cat destroyed
limpid spear
Lets have a moment of silence, every time we see them then.
naive maple
Took me 10 weeks grinding smuggling boxes to get my Cat
regal notch
happens when they stick to the platform and become a persistent element of that server .
regal notch
Takes me less than 10 days for a Cat 😄
naive maple
@regal notch you earn 5 million in 10 days?... how?
vocal cradle
Sooner then that
regal notch
Missions farm on Hurston 😄
vocal cradle
O nvm
naive maple
Missions farm on Hurston 😄
@regal notch I don’t know what that is
Sooner then that
@vocal cradle how?
vocal cradle
You can. Buy a car now
Nothing I miss read
I was thinking he said 5 min in 10 days
You can make 1 m a hour m half
Doing 5 runs
My org mates do it
They got cats
naive maple
No I’m asking how do you make 5 million aUEC in 10 days with a starter ship?... as in post wipe to get back to buying another Caterpillar
naive maple
5 million in 10 days? Ok cool thx
regal notch
Yup , thought I start with a Cutlass Black soooo its not the same thing with a 315p
regal notch
Yeah and consider you will gain a bit more than now if they will ever wipe with further updates 🤔
pallid temple
Rule one of Star Citizen, never have hopes
limpid spear
Uh yeah, the Cutlass Black has nearly 4x the cargo capacity as a 315p. 😄
naive maple
ECN’s and Claimjumper are $10k each... and the ECN’s take 5-10 minutes to complete with getting out there... so are we talking 10 hr days for 10 days to get 5 million?,... I’m not following your math as to “missions”
vocal cradle
My only hope is they fucking fix the 30ks
regal notch
ECN take less than 5 min 😄
naive maple
My only hope is they fucking fix the 30ks
@vocal cradle agreed
pallid temple
....30ks aren't going away for a long long while
regal notch
@naive maple
Have you ever done Personal missions ? there you gain 15k to 40k on solo and co op every 5 minutes
naive maple
Only personal missions I do are the box smuggling for $15,388 per box... that’s how I earned my current Caterpillar
regal notch
Deliveries take ages compared to killing a Sabre or Vanguard unless you take 4 at same time and make a 60k profit
limpid spear
Not when you are in a 315p, killing anything but myself takes ages.
regal notch
Yeah I know I still don't understand how you didn't get a 325A ...
limpid spear
I want to go explore things, tractor beam, scanning suite and all that good stuff.
naive maple
Not when you are in a 315p, killing anything but myself takes ages.
@limpid spear nah bro... you just need to equip her right!
limpid spear
I'm working on that actually. Been testing out some different configurations with the stealth build I have. I'm kinda thinking of getting heavy duty shields though.
regal notch
Guardian or Paliside + FR-66 but you can config as you like based on your play stile also for Cargo Hauls instead of a fighting fighters etc build 🤩
limpid spear
Yeah, that right there is on the agenda, I'm just earning some moola in the freelancer so I can just go buy everything I need at once.
naive maple
zinc lynx
@limpid spear nn-14 neutrons might be what you want.
limpid spear
Anyone here with an Aquila? If you have your rover in the bay, can you load and unload the 4 SCU of cargo in it like normal?
zinc lynx
S2 laser canons with a decent punch and very nice overheat time OC
Takes like 20 shots to overheat and it usually takes 3 bursts to kill a sabre with 2x nn14s and 1x fl33
limpid spear
I think I was looking at the Panthers too. I donated some cash to Erkul, I've been using that site for awhile.
naive maple
This has worked well for me these past months... just swap out one of the coolers I have listed for the Rush something racing one
zinc lynx
Zero rush
naive maple
That’s it
limpid spear
I first wanted to see if stealth was more useful to my play style. Alas it doesn't look like it right now.
naive maple
Well, I just toggle those wicked shields off with “o” for stealth mode
zinc lynx
Can you link your current build or have you done so already?
naive maple
That’s my build up above
regal notch
Not mine hahaha
zinc lynx
stupid PCism
limpid spear
naive maple
With shields toggled to off and stealth toggled on I get down to 2650 meter detection...
regal notch
If that was PvE in PvP is 500 meters less .
naive maple
Nice!
opal crow
i seen someone recommending doing bezdek-po larinite run for 300+k ...... just wanted to add to that , that you can do bezdek-loreville instead and make the same money .. it takes about 10 minutes to make 300k. I end up making 8-10 mill a day lol
zinc lynx
Hmm, Could some one give me an in depth hauling guide or something?
I want to use my loaner freelancer to earn up some money and see if I like hauling
hollow sedge
Do some of your own research
its not complicated
hauling that is
buy shit at a sell it at b
and like literally above your comment is a route
zinc lynx
I was more so interested in what commodities there are and the usual prices people might see them.
I'm going to go into this assuming I wont be able to get Laranite if others are also rushing for it ._.
naive maple
I'm going to go into this assuming I wont be able to get Laranite if others are also rushing for it ._.
@zinc lynx well currently, the limits are glitched allowing the stock to be fully replenished every 5 minutes... Since you are only in a Freelancer (66 SCU), you have other options like T&M - PO with 66 scu Laranite and back to T&M with 5 SCU of Med Supplies (yes, don't go over 5 as T&M will only buy 5 at a time)... round trip thats 8 minutes, which is incredibly fast, HOWEVER!, as JDAC and others like him have pointed out, they will try to murder you on this route breaking your bank and leaving you penniless,... in order to "test" this "alpha" game... so take some friends who like to bounty hunt so these "testers" can be sent to Klescher to continue their "testing" there
zinc lynx
lol
ashen epoch
ok question on armor i got the evironment suit hot weather one and now there is a circle with a plus sign in center next to o2 bottle icon is that armor durability before it breaks? cause had it at 99 percent fell landing on edge and it went to 95 % and if its armor durability how do yourepair it?
naive maple
That’s your health bar... you can use a medpen to heal yourself
near flower
any cargo running?
ashen epoch
used med pen and stayed 95%
blissful rain
i seen someone recommending doing bezdek-po larinite run for 300+k ...... just wanted to add to that , that you can do bezdek-loreville instead and make the same money .. it takes about 10 minutes to make 300k. I end up making 8-10 mill a day lol
@opal crow I made 1m in 2h. Did you spend 16h to make 8m?
....30ks aren't going away for a long long while
@pallid temple 3.10 fixes many network related bugs
lofty crest
also the start of the network rework which will be nice
blissful rain
yea
woeful gazelle
i seen someone recommending doing bezdek-po larinite run for 300+k ...... just wanted to add to that , that you can do bezdek-loreville instead and make the same money .. it takes about 10 minutes to make 300k. I end up making 8-10 mill a day lol
@opal crow
a) Lorville landing takes as much time as flying to P.O.
b) travelling by train in Lorville takes as much time flying back from P.O.
I'd wager that it might take you even longer for a full route, all being said and done.
oh and you can buy 50 SCU of med supplies from P.O. and make a small bit of extra money when flying back to Arial
waxen basin
thanks for the info
lofty crest
im sure as the game progresses trade will get better. What you really need to find is a loop rather than a one way trade route. i.e every stop you are buying and selling something. Dynamic economy should solve this, with the right level of player manipulation you could create some very popular routes.
blissful rain
@woeful gazelle thats what im saying, PO is the best trade route period
odd hinge
just keep in mind that flying to PO takes a lot more quantum fuel
so you will need to refuel after every arrival on PO
due to only being able to do 2 or 3 jumps on the tank it has
vocal prairie
Well it's not expensive to refuel currently, thankfully.
odd hinge
only like 600 credits
but it actually adds onto the time it takes
as refuelling is not instant, and does take a bit
blissful rain
just keep in mind that flying to PO takes a lot more quantum fuel
@odd hinge umm no it doesnt
po to yela is tiny
zinc lynx
Question: How many units to fill up an SCU? I've been trying to understand gallog and finally got how it works ._.
zinc lynx
Its like I had great luck on future ghost until i bought my sabre, and now Future ghost and Hurston gib no missions.
I've got 170k and gonna use my lancer
but I can always earn upto another 300k before I actually start hauling easily
odd hinge
You could run some vice with that?
Don't attempt scrap, as scrap barely makes any profit at all with hte Lancer
Heck, with a caterpillar, scrap only gives like 25~28K profit 😐
zinc lynx
When I did the one haulinig escort dude told me to never wait for laranite, just get the rest tit
mellow grail
Wild, I dont think anyone has answered your question. 1SCU is 100 units
For instance a Lancer Max = 120SCU = 12000 units of materials
zinc lynx
ty Felowen
mellow grail
Welcome
odd hinge
1 SCU = 100 units yeah
zinc lynx
now I can atleast calculate how much i need from Gallog
odd hinge
just keep in mind the prices ingame might deviate slightly from the prices on gallog
mellow grail
Well good. Good site to use
zinc lynx
i heard prices are bugged? Like 23.1 rounds up to 24 when it shouldn't be?
mellow grail
So far this month, for me anyway, the prices have calculated correctly
odd hinge
Yup
the laranite, while it "costs" 24.1
it actually deducts 25 credits when you buy 1 unit
But when you buy 10 units, it still deducts 250 credits, rather than 241 i believe
so it's a bit weird
zinc lynx
so basically 1 cred less profit
mellow grail
well no. If you buy 10 units, wouldnt it deduct 241 credits
I am pretty sure that is what I have been seeing
mellow grail
Same
zinc lynx
hence I think its bugged lol
odd hinge
but 560 SCU of laranite is 1.4 million on the spot
zinc lynx
iirc, it was a reddit thread
odd hinge
which is 2500 aUEC per SCU
zinc lynx
and eople had pics of both ways
mellow grail
ok yes it very well could be bugged on single unit pricing. I have only bought in bulk and it calculates correctly
odd hinge
Nope, bulk does not
zinc lynx
so the bug might not be affecting everyone
mellow grail
I will concede then. I am not in game to review
odd hinge
As the trade terminals where i bought my laranite told 24.1 aUEC per unit.
And like i mentioned, it stil costed me 1,400,000 for a full caterpillar.
Which comes down to 2500 aUEC per SCU (1,400,000 / 560)
it's a bit stupid tbh
probably an issue with how the calculations are performed
maybe they round up float values
mellow grail
Yep, your math is right. I just could've have sworn when I bought bulk it calculated correctly but again I am not in game so I could be 100% wrong
odd hinge
so the price might be rounded up to 25, and then times the amount you buy
Yeah, if the price would be calculated correctly.
A full cat of laranite should actually cost 1,349,600 instead of 1,400,000
So that would be an extra 50K of profit almost...
mellow grail
So just a matter of being more observant for me to calculate the difference in my profits
odd hinge
Yeah, just double check how much you actually pay for the cargo
As the values on the trading displays themselves can't be trusted 😂
pallid temple
@zinc lynx 100 centiSCU make up 1 SCU
mellow grail
Good to know, so I think today's focus is mining anyway so I am ok with this
pallid temple
So the trade terminal display the prices per centiSCU
woeful moss
When I have my cat stored at loreville to sell laranite it tells me i have 576 SCU but when I buy the laranite at an outpost I only have 560 SCU
zinc lynx
but how am I to know if that one unit of Whatever is indeed one centi SCU?
woeful moss
Might that be a bug due to that tracking beacon?
odd hinge
No, it's a general bug
mellow grail
Hyper, there is a bug where a physical component blocks some SCU
odd hinge
it just happens sometimes
pallid temple
Yeah the Cat SCU is a bug
woeful moss
Okay thanks
pallid temple
Isn't it 576?
mellow grail
The 576SCU is right, but they have shown sometimes there is a component that appears floating in one of the bays
it negates the 16 scu
woeful moss
Okay thanks. I guess mine always spawns with the beacon
odd hinge
Yeah, seen it last sunday.
pallid temple
Ahh the mysterious ship beacon
odd hinge
It's weird, because if you target the caterpillar, it actually targets that specific component
mellow grail
if you claim your ship it should reset to 576...for a while
could be 1 trip or 50
I am just hoping they sort out the disappearing asteroid bug soon. I prefer mining in the belts but am now limited to Yela's belt only
woeful moss
So you would be able to buy 16 SCU more of laranite. Gonna try it later with reclaiming
mellow grail
I always enjoyed going to Aaron's Halo to just float about
Hyper, yep
Again that is in my experience
woeful moss
No you promised it
odd hinge
What is even weirder is that
woeful moss
j/k 😄
odd hinge
the SCU seems to be glitched out at outposts
mellow grail
read the fine print
odd hinge
but seems to work at landing zones
because when i got to CRU-L1 to buy scrap, i can buy 576 units
but when i sell at PO, i have -16 SCU in my cat
and it's limited back down to 560
mellow grail
well now that makes it even more odd
odd hinge
Yeah, it seems to differ from location to location.
woeful moss
Did your ship get stored @odd hinge ?
odd hinge
I have reclaimed mine many times
woeful moss
For me the noticeable difference is if the ship is stored or not
odd hinge
from my experience it just seems to differ from station to station.
mellow grail
Well that seals it for me. Going mining this morning
odd hinge
But i never paid too much attention to it
woeful moss
Because I was able to emulate the behavior with my cutlass black
if I put a dragonfly in
it reduces the scu
but if i store it and then try to buy
I have the same scu as if the dragonfly weren't there
mellow grail
what happens on spawning
odd hinge
that is the real question
i guess the dragonfly just stays put and clips through the boxes?
mellow grail
the dragonfly would go bye bye I would think
woeful moss
I don't know what the scu of the cutlass is but when I spawned then, the dragonfly was still there and the cutlass had an scu of 65/50
mellow grail
test it...for science
mellow grail
wel then the question becomes, do all that. fly planetside, then try to ride the dragonfly to see what happens
odd hinge
lol
woeful moss
you cant get the dragonfly out
mellow grail
I expect an explosion of crates
odd hinge
it's probalby just stuck in the crates
woeful moss
because it's encircled by crates
odd hinge
and when you sell, and the crates disappear, it's usable again
mellow grail
try doing it with half cargo? maybe then you could see the dragonfly enough to ride it?>
odd hinge
I've done that with my connie a few times
mellow grail
well that is disappointing
mellow grail
I wanted to see someone hovering above ground, the backdoor opens and next thing is a dragonfly shooting out the back showering everyone in crates
woeful moss
Does calling the landingpads on planetary outposts actually do anything?
maybe someday @mellow grail
mellow grail
indeed
odd hinge
Nope
the landing pads don't do much
i've heard some weird cases of ships getting impounded at them though 🤣
mellow grail
I have had that occur a long while back where I stayed too long and presto, ship was stored
had to get a ride back as you cant spawn the ship then claim at a station
but that is going back some time. Now I just do not stay that long
odd hinge
Yeah
last sunday one of the folks i was playing with had it happen
when he pad rammed someone on a pad at an outpost
just "poof", his ship was gone, and he was in the small building where you can spawn the ground vehicles
Allthough he did hit a ship on one of those small landing pads where the ground vehicles spawn
mellow grail
accidentally of course
woeful moss
I only have heard of people's ships getting impounded when blocking the ground vehicle pads
odd hinge
Nope
we were messing around
doing some racing shenenigans
and he tried to ram into someone on the pad 😂
but seeing how we were all crewed up, you don't get crimestats for ramming i believe
mellow grail
oh ok. yeah the impounding stuff is still so new to me. When mine occured it wasnt an impound it was just a store
odd hinge
yeah, that happens sometimes as well
it's even weirder when it glitches
mainly happens at PO
where you take off, get a warning, fly a way, QT to another planet
mellow grail
just happened 2 days ago.
odd hinge
arrive at the other planet, and suddenly get pulled into a loading screen, and are standing in PO again
with the ship impounded
mellow grail
Flying to planet, was in atmo, next thing I knw I am freefalling and ship is gone
odd hinge
Yeah
have had that happen during mining a while ago
was mining on yela, flying for over half an hour already
And suddenly the ship just disappeared, and i got booted onto the surface of yela
When i arrived at GrimHex, it was just stored there, with the cargo..
mellow grail
we need parachutes in our suits btw
zinc lynx
nah
odd hinge
Depends
zinc lynx
jet legs
odd hinge
in space they don't do much
mellow grail
or that
mellow grail
when freefalling 10k up in atmo, it wouldve helped
odd hinge
true
mellow grail
I splatted and found myself spawned elsewhere. not even where my ship ended up
odd hinge
lol
I've also had weird cases where i literally fell down multiple kilometers
and landed without any damage
mellow grail
I think the ship was at PO and I was at the R&R I had only refueled at
Yep. ship was at PO, I was at MICL1
mellow grail
ok
ripe orbit
Do traders/miners have to compete over resources / commodities? Or are they infinite?
pallid temple
Traders just have to wait for the commodities to restock
ripe orbit
Are they planning to change that in the future though? I was just thinking about the upcoming money-transfer-system and how many possibilites it creates. I was imagining a mega logistics org hiring bad individuals to rough up traders and thinning out the competition for them to make a better profit.
vocal cradle
I will just take my polaris out
Fuck getting bullied
I been bully it’s not fun
@ripe orbit has
ripe orbit
Didn't say anything about bullying. It's just gameplay.
vocal cradle
I know but it sounds like it
Don’t want big orgs take advantage of a little guys like you Said
I’m I. A smell org
. I was imagining a mega logistics org hiring bad individuals to rough up traders and thinning out the competition for them to make a better profit. I don’t want to be rough up
Im a trader too
Just been waiting tho for them to fix the 30ks n bring me done ships
Just got loners
It sucks
I want my bmm n hull d all ready
What trade ships you own guys
Anyone else own a hull d
I know a lot got a hull c
ripe orbit
I'm sure you've noticed there are players who just blow up cargo/miner ships for no apparent reason. With something I mentioned they'd have a valid and lore-friendly reason and they could get paid doing it.Then there's the pirates but those are all needed because that makes escort combat pilots needed and sought after. Big Orgs taking over and shitting on the solo player is a fair point though. But even that could be handled in some way I'm thinking.
vocal cradle
I agree escorts are needed
Especially in a bigger ships
That are not done yet
All we got right now is a cat
With like 500 scu
But the hull c can hold 4500 scu
N the hull d is 20k scu
Tho the bmm is special It can land on planets
The hulls can’t
ripe orbit
Don't know much about the merchantman except that everyone a fair amount of people wants it in 😄
vocal cradle
It can hold 3500 scu
ripe orbit
Does it have stronger thrusters or something. As you said it can land on planets.
pallid temple
Ehh, I'm not particularly fussed, trading isn't my shtick
vocal cradle
N got guns size 6
Bmm is a Blockade running
And it deals with secure cargo
Not open containers like the hull c or d
@ripe orbit
The cargo is inside the ship
That’s how it can land on Planets
N the cool thing
I forgot to tell you
ripe orbit
Aight, so it's a heavy freighter with an emphasis on survival? (BMM)
vocal cradle
Is it have shops in side the ship
More a trader
You can hired nps n open shops in your ship
ripe orbit
Damn, didn't think it was that big. But it's still in concept so it might not end up like that I guess. It's very beatiful though. Looks much better than the cat!
azure prawn
Where i can sell Hadanite and Laranite for best profit?
naive maple
Profit is the same at all refinery terminals
azure prawn
oh ok
faint tinsel
Hey, don’t dis my Cat! She’s beautiful!
hard siren
Will this be ok https://www.erkul.games/calculator
the second link
is it ok for trading
native night
@hard siren Looks good, but I would recommend changing the coolers to Night Fall (quick cooldown) and Avalanche (extra cooling power).
hard siren
thx
ashen epoch
can so see a cat land and doors open up and make shift farmers market like shops on eather side of the loading bays. but what ships can scann down hand minables i know prospector and relient Sen and technicly terrapin. but anyothers
or is there ability to upgrade scanner and sensors?
hollow sedge
A cat could theoretically technically do that... But I doubt it would be a thing you could actually use it for ingame?
The diff is the bmm is meant to be a mobile trading post so there's a way better chance that kind of feature is implemented for it
have cig said that that's the plan for bmm?
proper gameplay/flea market/trade post capabilities in that sense?
would be pretty badass
cloud slate
yeah that gamepllay mechanic will be added eventually for the BMM and the Kraken privateer
naive maple
A cat could theoretically technically do that...
The bmm is meant to be a mobile trading
@hollow sedge Ya know... If you think about it, there are ALOT of ships this could work with!... Hell, the Connie Phoenix, you could load up 4 traders, one per suite and load their goods for sale in the 96 SCU down below... conduct private business in the suites, like office spaces and celebrate your negotiations after in the bar! LOL
hollow sedge
Honestly the first thing I thought of when I saw the Cat was a flea market lol
It would be a really cool setup
naive maple
right?!
frozen vine
the 890j is the chad drug merchant with 4 private suites
kind yoke
Full wipe very likely
@blissful rain from sc leaks?
cloud slate
had this chat in normal SC chat today and there was a leak/tip saying accounts above a certain threshold worth of aUEC might be reset where as others below it wont be
blissful rain
@blissful rain from sc leaks?
@kind yoke yes
odd hinge
That sounds like a decent thing.
Resetting accounts above a certain treshhold
As i've seen people legit farm a few hundred of million UEC in the game
But the ones who have trillions or more are defo not possible without either using exploits or no-lifing the game
cloud slate
agreed i think its a good compromise since it will get the exploited aUEC out of the market
pallid temple
Hell, there's people selling 100million aUEC for $100 on ebay
woeful moss
Omg who would be so dumb to buy aUEC
odd hinge
Yeah, not sure why you would wanna buy aUEC atm
cloud slate
yeah its crazy
woeful moss
No I mean why would you ever buy aUEC, if the game is finished it kinda makes sense but you will definitely loose all kinds of stuff until this game is finished. There is a high probability with each patch that you loose everything
might as well give me the money
😄
odd hinge
No use buying aUEC
it does make sense buying UEC on the store though
Some people are literally currently spending hundreds of IRL money to buy UEC, so they have a starting capital when the game goes live.
cloud slate
yeah if your going to buy anything its the daily cap of UEC
its not a bad overall idea
woeful moss
Yeah I've heard about orgs doing that. Whatever floats their boat I guess. But I don't mind earning my money in game
It's part of the gameplay for me
For them gameplay might be something different
cloud slate
if i have any credits left over before launch ill be buying UEC
odd hinge
1 guy i know will have around 200K UEC once the game goes live.
But that is because he had bought those guns and gimbals etc years ago in the store.
Which you can't buy anymore now, just ship components
woeful moss
You can't estimate how much he will have 😄
odd hinge
and he melted them
cloud slate
its like $25 for 20k UEC
cloud slate
sorry 22usd for 20k UEC
odd hinge
You can't estimate how much he will have 😄
@woeful moss he literally told me how much he had, as the ship components, that you could buy in the store, will give UEC instead of store credit. No clue why exactly though.
cloud slate
200k starting UEC will be a decent amount to run cargo anyway
cloud slate
ah yeah nice
i just plan on getting out of Stanton asap
its gonna be a shit show for the first few months
odd hinge
Well
For all we know we might be able to spawn in any UEE system when the game goes live
Which would spread out the players atleast
Because everyone having to spawn in Stanton, would create a massive cloggage of players, and would introduce a lot of trolling early on 😂
odd hinge
Yeah, i expect that to happen tbh
as that would also allow the large orgs to spread out a bit from the start, and inmediately start setting up their territories
before they all start 1 massive civil war in stanton in the first few days 😂
cloud slate
ill be headed for the borders of Banu space to hopefully get a passport to move over into there xD
odd hinge
Yeah
i need to have a look, not sure where my org will go and plan to make their home
Allthough seeing the size of the org, it shouldn't really be tied down to 1 system, but most likely spread across multiple ones
would also not be suprised if we go and set up outposts etc
warm river
i would expect spawns to be "well known systems"
cloud slate
id say most orgs will have small outposts hidden in a few systems as rest stops for their members
odd hinge
Well, i expect spawn systems to be large systems, or like all UEE systems, and a few large other systems
Also, outposts will defo go and play a role
Imagine having an outpost in Vanduul territory
that can be worth gold
smuggling some rare goods that can only be found in vanduul territory or something
Or for when you want to start an all out war against the vanduul
which will 100% go and happen
cloud slate
hopefully if i can raise my Rep with the Banu high enough i can build a base there and buy high lvl tech and parts and sell them to people who dont want to head all the way to Banu space or dont have the Rep
would be nice if with high enough Banu rep i could trade directly with the Vanduul like the banu do xD
even if i was allowed to fly through vanduul systems and not be attacked haha doubtful but would be a cool perk
odd hinge
Well
i doubt that will happen
unless if you fly as crew on a banu npc ship or something
cloud slate
if they add alien npc crew i could hire them onto my BMM and have that Banu crew member speak with the Vanduul
odd hinge
As far as we know right now, vanduul killed every human being they've seen, except for 1 that was taken hostage.
cloud slate
its a long shot for it to happen but maybe after launch
just another aspect to trading really
odd hinge
could be yeah
Really comes down to how the banu trade with the vanduul as well
But i believe the Xi'an are also known to trade with the vanduul in rare occasions
cloud slate
yeah Xi'an on rare occasions but the Banu are the only species the Vanduul are friendly with
odd hinge
Yeah
cloud slate
the Banu have a planet that is even inside Vanduul space
odd hinge
Remains to be seen how friendly though as in
Do the Vanduul tolerate it if the Banu have a human with them or not
cloud slate
yeah we dont know
odd hinge
Yeah, the Banu have a planet or system, within Vanduul territoriy
which says enough tbh 😂
cloud slate
haha
odd hinge
as tbh
cloud slate
i just want to be an actual Banu trader xD but i doubt we will ever see alien playable races
odd hinge
i also would not be suprised if the Banu would throw you under the bus if the price from the Vanduul is right
cloud slate
most likely
odd hinge
As in, if you were a crew member on a Banu ship, don't be suprised if you're sold off to Vanduul, who find out you're there, just to kill you.
cloud slate
yeah so dont get on Banu npc ships that are going near Vanduul space lol
odd hinge
Most likely yeah 😂
As they will probably sell your ass, if the price is right
Heck, they sell state secrets even, if the price is right
cloud slate
Banu always look at the bottom line xD
odd hinge
Yup
blissful rain
Some people are literally currently spending hundreds of IRL money to buy UEC, so they have a starting capital when the game goes live.
@odd hinge Then it becomes pay to win..........
vocal cradle
True
faint tinsel
Win what?
blissful rain
@faint tinsel google the term pay to win
tame elbow
NPCs are supposed to outnumber players 10 to 1
You can impact the universe but you can't control it
At the cost of $80 for 8km cubic land claims
$62,800,000 buys you a hurston sized planet
violet acorn
Looking to help new players
I am providing loans and grants for ships/cargo costs etc
just dm me on here
naive maple
At the cost of $80 for 8km cubic land claims
@tame elbow Are they already selling these?
Do we know how they will be earned or purchased in-game?
pallid temple
From what I know CiG sold land claims for IRL money a few years ago
proven token
came with the pioneer
ashen epoch
part of me wants to take yalorbots offer but also know the loan would not be able to pay off as dont play as often thus can not accept it in good faith. and also sounds like a scam XD
tame elbow
@tame elbow Are they already selling these?
@naive maple https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/engineering/16292-Q-A-Land-Claim-License/
some quick facts:
you don't need a land claim to build bases
but buying a land claim ensures its owned by you and the UEE provides protection for the area
land claims will be purchasable with UEC
pallid temple
Land Claims are basically the UEE going "We'll ensure that this land remains under your ownership and under our protection"
naive maple
Ah... but you won't NEED it to actually have some buddy use their Pioneer to place an Outpost there for you
naive maple
With the claim, can I insure an outpost?... like if a Pirate blows up your outpost with or withoout a claim... does it make aany difference?
hushed path
I don't think anyone knows for certain about that
tame elbow
Too early to know. I'm pretty sure unclaimed land is like the wild west
You just have to defend it yourself
turbid plinth
some ai ballistas and 💋
gloomy canopy
if you get a land claim today, you can give the property to your grandchildren when it releases
blissful rain
wipe incoming https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZTS4ljkAU0 watch from 1st minute
woeful gazelle
"could be"
"potential"
naive maple
no mention of what the threshold is?
woeful gazelle
that's from the SC leaks discord
that's from the SC leaks discord
so the information isn't super reliable
vale stratus
proven token
In time, daedalus
cloud slate
people need to stop saying a wipe is or is not happening, nobody actually knows anything until it happens
kind yoke
and actually it doesnt really matter as your hard earn aUEC are gonna wipe at least once in beta and live
so just dont get so attached to the progress and enjoy (test) the game meanwhile
woeful moss
Why shouldn't anyone say that? This is a speculation discord. There is more speculation going on here than on Wallstreet 😄
lofty crest
i think they should do a wipe when live comes around
imagine playing the game for the first time and someone flies past in a capital ship with a billion credits
it only makes sense to wipe imo plus it promotes experienced players to race or help yanno
markets
odd hinge
I mean
The only capital ship in atm is the 890J
And it's not like you can see how many credits a player has
silver hamlet
they are only wiping us so we are more likely to buy ships with irl money and not in game money
odd hinge
They're more likely wiping, if it's even going to happen, to get rid of the over saturated credits atm.
And clear items, to ease the stress of their databases atm.
cloud slate
^
blissful rain
ok i say let them wipe i
fuck it
wipe it all
start fresh
say bye bye to your ships u bought in game
instead buy ya stuff via pledge store... lol
odd hinge
If you don't like grinding, just stop playing the game, and wait till it exits alpha..
It's an alpha, you know there are gonna be wipes due to balancing and technical reasons.
That has been stated multiple times. They're even becoming less now with the LTP.
blissful rain
whats the point in grinding when u will lose all your grinding efforrt?
thats not how grinding works
u grind knowing there is a reward for it
why dont they remove the element if grinding?
and make box missions and other misisons pay big amounts of money so people are not grinding
and can easily obtain a sabre from doing like a few box delivery missons for example
nuke the grinding element
odd hinge
For the same reason that other alpha games still let you grind for stuff.
So people first off get a realistic view of how it's most likely going to be, and to keep people actually playing the alpha.
If you can buy all ships in the game after 1 day of grinding, people would buy them, mess around for a few weeks, and just quit most likely. Or not even try those gameplay loops.
Which would also bring up less issues with them, if no one plays the loops.
Why would people try out and test play the mining gameplay loop, if you could buy a sabre with a few box delivery missions? Which would be quicker and easier.
That also ties into balance they're trying to find already.
blissful rain
true
but at the same time. to much wipes hampers what u just said
not all of us play this game 24/7
and if they kepe doing wipes every month, a lot of people wont make progress
odd hinge
they don't do them every month though.
Tarkov and Rust also wipe on regular basis. With forced wipes on updates generally.
blissful rain
for example, the 890jump is a 60m ship, basically like an end game reward and that would take more than 3 months to get 60m for an average player
odd hinge
It's not that uncommon in alpha games.
That is because not everyone is supposed to just grind out an 890J
it's a capital ship..
You're meant to grind for it with your organization
blissful rain
so not many wil be able to play and test out the 890 for test purpose
no but if not many can even play on it then when its released, it will be full of bugs
u need players to test the 890
and missions to that need a 890
even if it was a misison that allows u to infaltrate and steal one that would be cool
odd hinge
They want it to be tested.
They just don't want the servers to be filled with them inmediately most likely
Also, even in an alpha, peole generally need a goal to work towards to stay engaged.
blissful rain
just have it for one or two days only event
and u do need to stress test the game to see how it deals with 20 890's in a server
which lets face it, is a tiny thing to have in the grand scheme of things when they want 1000 people in a area
cloud slate
so if you need people to test the larger ships that are expensive why wipe? there is people out there that want to test them but need time to actually save up to do so. if there is constant wipes that wont happen so i say dont wipe it so that there is more people who will be able to test the 890j sooner
blissful rain
this ^
odd hinge
Like i mentioned before, there can be multiple reasons for the wipe to happen.
blissful rain
and its only in 3.10 that u can buy a 890
odd hinge
To clear the economy, and force people again to try and use the gameplay loops to earn money.
To clear the database for more stability
blissful rain
and iwth the player trading app as welll...
cloud slate
oh i agree a wipe needs to happen for the sole reason of blackmarket aUEC selling
odd hinge
Because of lacking backwards compatability to an old version. Which does happen with updates sometimes.
blissful rain
if u set everyone to zero then player trading app is useless at the early days of the patch
and hardly anyone is gunna afford a 890 by the time 3.11 comes and another possible wipe
odd hinge
lol
there will be people who get them in no time
I've seen people grind out 10+ million in a single day...
cloud slate
if they do a wipe for for decents reasons im fine with it
odd hinge
I give it a week max before we start seeing 890J's flying around.
blissful rain
let alone 1m a day
cloud slate
the only downside is having to start again with box missions but once Cat pilots have 1.4mil its a matter of a week or so before an 890j is bought if no 30ks
odd hinge
Well, once you're set up, with a caterpillar it's only 3 laranite runs to earn 1 mil
blissful rain
if u dont get a 30k
lol
gotta grind to 1.4m first
and thats a tall order using box misisons lol
u first need to grind to around 200k to get a helix and then start mining to gain 1.4m faster
maybe 2m u need just to be safe
cloud slate
box missions to 130k then i usually earn 200k per hour of profit off of that
blissful rain
never blow all your load in a cargo run
odd hinge
Still, the wipes are getting less now.
If you want to buy a 890J before a wipe happens, just team up with some players and grind together
cloud slate
agreed
blissful rain
@odd hinge yea u can possibly do that now in 3.10 with the new player app
i will ask my org if they are up for doin i
the thing is, who buys it? we cant "share" a ship
one of us has to own it
and pull it out
odd hinge
Like i said, you should not expect to buy capital ships in the game solo.
They are capital class ships for a reason, which are supposed to be grinded for ,and bought and run by organizations. Not solo players
blissful rain
would be cool if an org can share a ship
odd hinge
I mean, right now you can ask the player to come online, pull it, you can jump in, and then that player can jump off, you just can't respawn it.
I think they might have some system planned for that though.
That some day you can go and appoint players in your org, to be able to spawn certain of your ships, but not sure
blissful rain
yea
it makes sense for capital ships
no one member should just own it as u say
by definition it is a org type ship
so really multiple orgs should be able to summon it
obviously can only summon 1 though
unless the org bought 2
odd hinge
Yeah
But like i mentioned, i believe they have plans to one day allow org members to share ships. Or something along those lines.
cloud slate
some people do but there is alot of Orgs that require you to have be exclusive them that 1 org
blissful rain
i see
u cant create multiple characters yet can u?
if u could then u can easily be in different orgs
cloud slate
you will only ever be able to have 1 character per account
if you want another character you will need a second account
blissful rain
Most mmo allow you to have multiple characters
cloud slate
but this is a simulator, plus certain reputations will be linked to your account with the permadeath system
now this system is all a work in progress but its basically to make sure that companies etc who hire people can see the account ingame history, well some of it at least
blissful rain
i see
odd hinge
No
they actually mentioned that on an account, for every game package you have, you will be able to make a character
and switch between them.
cloud slate
oh for each gamepackage
odd hinge
yeah
cloud slate
well i guess thats still $45 per character
odd hinge
And if you're not playing on a char, they can function as npc crew i believe.
True, but seeing how a lot of people have multiple game packages already it depends.
We might be able to buy character slots at some point, have to see tbh
As that was based off of an article from 2013 i believe
cloud slate
interesting
odd hinge
Also, each character would have it's own ships, items, money etc.
cloud slate
hmmm only conntected to that gamepackage?
blissful rain
ahh i see
interesting
but u can still grind one char and transfer uec to the oher
or even items
the trading app will let u transfer items in a later iteration of it
odd hinge
Well
from their plans, it will be that, you can go and make a char for each game package.
And before launch or at launch, you would have to assign each item from your hangar to a character.
They will all have the same starting money
And then later you might be able to transfer them from char to char ingame, but that would probably cost credits
blissful rain
sweet
flint birch
im in a freelancer with 10k, whats the best material and route to sell?
real vessel
violet acorn
Looking to help new players
I am providing loans and grants for ships/cargo costs etc
just dm me on here
waxen basin
are they fixing belt mining with the 3.10 update?
ashen epoch
ahs yes scanning fly to glowy square nothing like chasing false positives XD
ashen epoch
then when i found quantainium thought try luck with it kept i tin green and then sudden 100% red and yea i cheezed it and bailed before possible damag ecould happen XD
dry field
has anyone had a bug with there constellation phoenix emerald not having any cargo space? when i go to take out the ship it read 0 cargo compacity.
odd nacelle
waxen basin
spent an hour in belt above yela found all crap ore
waxen basin
are there any other planets besides crusade that worth mining at?
blissful rain
tawny quail
Are there long-haul cargo missions available? If so what are your experiences doing them and are drones available to despatch from a cargo ship?
pallid temple
There are no cargo delivery missions @tawny quail
errant vigil
waxen basin
Drones arent really in game yet I think only the carrack has some
proven token
A bunch of repair ships are suppose to have drones, but they probably are so far off that it isnt even worth talking about
hollow sedge
I personally wish theyd stop expanding their scope and flush out and polish whats in the game
urban solstice
I personally wish theyd stop expanding their scope and flush out and polish whats in the game
@hollow sedge Agree. At least they should focus on the bugs and fix the 30k server error before moving onto more ships...
haughty zodiac
Or how about making the existing ships work first haha
haughty zodiac
We gotta put together a large group of freighters and create a space convoy with em through a trade route
vocal prairie
If 50 people group up and join a server together they cant get pirated or griefed.
haughty zodiac
Strength in numbers man
vocal prairie
I have no idea.
I think with 50 cats flying at once it might 30k the server though. 😂
cloud slate
maybe hahaha
vocal prairie
But just think if it worked for 6 hours straight..... so much trading!
cloud slate
exactly the millions of credits xD
vocal prairie
We will see how unstable 3.10 is then the org will likely take over a server for a cargo run OP.
cloud slate
yeah if servers are stable that may very likely be the case
solemn arch
Should I do cargo with my drake cutty black or the freelancer?
kind yoke
do you need a prospector to scan for handminables?
kind yoke
lets say im on lyria
i want to look for hand minables
i scan from the ship
is it only prospector can do that?
naive maple
@kind yoke Prospector, Mole and Cutty Red... but come 3.10, all ships will be able to scan for mineables... likely due to the ROC mining Greycat
hollow sedge
That's a thing Sea of Thieves players do
Easier there tho cuz a server is 16 people iirc
naive maple
why exploration ship not able to do so ...
@kind yoke I agree!... I have a 315p Pathfinder and believe that ship should CERTAINLY be able to scan well
kind yoke
yeh coz scanners are one of the strong point for exploration ship they should be able to do so
hollow sedge
Are there rocks that a prospector can't crack?
Have cig mentioned if they'll be fixing mole fuel consumption or scanner?
proven token
Mole fuel consumption was already 'buffed' but is still pretty bad
Atm i think a single helix can crack anything
waxen basin
shut your guns off and u can add more power
hollow sedge
What's wrong with asteroids
waxen basin
other then the ones above yela all the asteroid disappear as soon as you crack them
kind yoke
also aron halo
blissful rain
no wipes for 3.10 thank god
rigid summit
Confirmed?
lofty crest
i got a cat and ngl its a little overrated to fully fill with laranite is a ball ache, waiting or relogging just seems a bit much tbh
time to switch to mining for a lil bit i think
blissful rain
yes confirmed
azure prawn
Why i cant buy anything from the trade consoles?
lofty crest
restocking
lofty crest
bugged itll sometimes come back
woeful moss
might be the server is dying
lofty crest
but if you are close/ ship stored just relog
azure prawn
But i wanna buy Agricum so i can go and sell it
lofty crest
what route are you on?
azure prawn
Shubin Mining Facility SAL-5--->Lorville CBD
lofty crest
guess its a waiting game
lofty crest
nice freelancer is the way to go a max can carry you all the way up imo
lofty crest
in a freelancer its best to quick runs. try the TM -> PO Laranite run
azure prawn
Tm?
lofty crest
Tram & Myers
lofty crest
it can be dangerous but its one of the quicker routes
azure prawn
How dangerous?
lofty crest
usually just pirates
and if its bad or someone reports it in chat
just get in the bed and relog
azure prawn
hmm
lofty crest
i grinded up 4mill doing an armistice only run which was super boring but got there eventually
azure prawn
I am just gonna change servers and then request my ship to not suffering the Qt time( My last time on being at station was PO)
mossy canyon
What is an armistice run, and how long did it take to make the 4M? @lofty crest
lofty crest
an armistice run is going between two areas where weapons are offline
and the 4 mill was way too long must have been a week all in all?
mossy canyon
Okay. That is not too bad. How do you do armistice runs? Are they are certain type of mission?
haughty zodiac
if you go to sc-trading.kamille.ovh/trading you can generate trade routes to follow
mossy canyon
Thanks I will check that out now. I’ve been managing one or two missions a day, despite play over 6 hours a day. Something always happens and I don’t complete it. Mostly game crashes. I’m trying to not get discouraged.
haughty zodiac
I'd figure out what's causing you to crash before doing trade routes
mossy canyon
And glitches. The last one yesterday i was in Lorville coming out of customs and I fell through the floor and died. I was devastated. Lol.
Bye bye ore. I’ve yet to make it to sell a load.
haughty zodiac
been good, all night, and now I've had two 30k's two cargo runs in a row
mossy canyon
Nice. Hoping for the best today.
lofty crest
trading isnt really about missions its more the idea of buy and sell
you find somewhere you buy material low and sell somewhere else high
Diamond or titanium are a good start for those kinds of runs
mossy canyon
I’m not trading atm. I’m doing cave missions and mining during them.
naive maple
no wipes for 3.10 thank god ... Confirmed
@blissful rain Where? How do you know?
blissful rain
Sc leaks
sand moth
There's no way to use the upgraded mining lasers on the rented ships right?
hollow sedge
Love how people reccomend tram when every time i am on there are always a bunch of asshats camping it and killing players left and right. Sure its fast but honestly not worth the risk
turbid plinth
@sand moth you can swap the heads out while in the pilot seat. Click vehicle manager and DO NOT SELECT A VEHICLE FROM THE DROP DOWN LIST. It will load your current vehicle after a second. Its currently a feature to allow replacing of mining consumables on the fly. But citizens are using it for all kinds of shenanigans too
sand moth
@turbid plinth Thanks! I was selecting the ship from the drop down but it had the lock. I will try this later after work. 🙂
tame elbow
Love how people reccomend tram when every time i am on there are always a bunch of asshats camping it and killing players left and right. Sure its fast but honestly not worth the risk
@hollow sedge just do bezdek
much safer
turbid plinth
tnm is half to a third of the time. hence why people risk it
hollow sedge
I do hurston, takes longer but i can get in and out of lathan fine
sand moth
Looking forward to using the laser i bought finally. I can't even crack most rocks with the stock one.
tame elbow
wait until 3.11 drops when we have object push and pull
hollow sedge
Just have to be smart and have your qt charged and ready before leaving armistice and full burn out of atmosphere
tame elbow
and you literally have to wait for your cargo to loaded box by box
hollow sedge
I dont think the loading will take that long or people will outright quit playing
tame elbow
it'll take a few minutes
turbid plinth
thats what happens when people have reached the endgame and made all the money they want. welcome to pvp content
tame elbow
if people are that much of babies that they stop playing because a full cat cargo isn't instantly teleported into the ship... they made a mistake buying this game
hollow sedge
Never said instant but of it takes RL time people will quit.
I load trucks for a living, it isnt fast
turbid plinth
id like cargo to take time to load. like a cat taking a good 10 mins
vs a freelancer being instant
then there's reasons to fly either
this laranite rush in a big red space pp is getting silly
turbid plinth
with cargo loading times there'd be a point to bring friends in a fleet of light haulers
hollow sedge
After reading that crap it sounds too much like a job
turbid plinth
its just space engineers/Minecraft dawg
hollow sedge
I load pallets all day irl, i dun wanna pay to do shit i get paid for
tame elbow
cargo hauling is a career
hollow sedge
I swear sometimes when i read this stuff i think CIG forgets this is supposed to be a game
sand moth
Don't haul cargo in game then?