i get it rent a prospector use the bug to replace the head
#industrial-professions
pure field
ornate rock
it's so quick to do, and also safer than I expected
some people said you can lose the mining head when the ship is destroyed, but it didn't happen to me... and I crashed... a lot
pure field
I have experienced both worlds
I know almost everything about mining. From ships to exploitable bugs.
and I think the MOLE is better than 3 Prospectors
ebon cedar
If you really knew mining you would not be here lol.... ppl like that are already rich
pure field
what do you mean people like that are already rich? the ones who knows about mining?
woeful gazelle
I just watched a video and if you have to claim your rented ship for any reason you can first go to the hangar module and unequip the exchanged mining head first so you don't lose it
ornate rock
I didn't lose the mining head after claiming
I did all the things, exploded the ship, had it impounded, lost connection and got it duplicated, bumped the mining head into the ground so hard it fell off
I did not use the hangar module to put the mining head onto the ship though, I used the vlm
much easier to just swap it in the vlm anyway... I need to try that on other ships as well... wonder if I can restock missiles with it 😄
woeful gazelle
well, I never had the issue of having to rent a prospector
brave agate
wait, what bug to your advantage.. i have mined for days on end and never made 2 mil. i think my total for money made mining is something like 750k
getting rocks to spawn on yela with any yield worth my time is a right PITA
woeful gazelle
happens with Quantainium, where you can sometimes sell multiple times, or the Quantainium % is higher than it should be
or both
brave agate
ah, ok.. i dont do quantanium. i havent made anything but insurance claims with that
i never get lucky enough to get large clusters of it, and the 2 times i took it i went straight to olisar and still blew up on the pad 10 minutes after mining it.
2nd time really pissed me off because it was only 1 rock worth and the rest of my load was larinite
ebon cedar
Multiple sell happens with anything.
woeful gazelle
well the trick is that you mine it and then immediately scram off to sell it without searching for anything else
brave agate
i did that
like i said, it went off early on the pad
the alarms started blaring when i popped out of QT
woeful gazelle
did you wait for the extraction until you split all the rocks?
woeful gazelle
where did you mine?
brave agate
yela, arc corp mining area
it was a ground find rock with 11% quantanium
it tried to blow up splitting the damn thing.
(overload)
it gets me once, shame on it, twice shame on me.. 3rd time aint happening
woeful gazelle
well, it isn't easy to mine, that's true but if you go straight from mining to selling it shouldn't have time to explode, let anone even get so much as a warning off
ornate rock
first day was pretty much me just figuring out mining, only did it once before in 3.7 or so in the PTU.
but quant isn't all that bad, especially since it bugs around so much, it's kinda beneficial
never exploded on me either... only had the warning go off when I didn't have an quantainium loaded
brave agate
not saying what happened was normal, i am just saying its my bane and i know when to let a dead dog lay
wise hazel
I have not experienced such disappointment in my life, it is such an absurdity that the game shuts down and my money is gone while carrying cargo to the ground, and while these bugs continue, you are constantly launching new ships
brave agate
oh, you got screwed with a 30k while trading, welcome to SC
wise hazel
330k dude
wise hazel
I don't know what is the logic of constantly bringing new ships instead of fixing the existing bugs, then people get angry when they abuse the game
brave agate
30k is the disconnect code that gives you the finger while trading
oh, thats easy.. money
ornate rock
I don't know in which logic you want ship designers to fix programming bug
brave agate
ships make money, bug fixing is only needed when money slows down.. dev logic. its most games now
wise hazel
i haved caterpillar and there is too much bug ship design already plate like plate sheet
brave agate
having a hard time making sense of that sentence, not gonna lie
wise hazel
@ornate rock I did not mention the ship design, I am talking about returning the game to the main menu and losing all the cargo while carrying the cargo
ebon cedar
Trading is not really viable atm
ornate rock
how does the release of new ships impact their ability to work on networking tech?
wise hazel
then why is there in the game
ornate rock
trading is going to be completely revamped, don't expect them to fix anything that isn't part of the whole Quanta system
wise hazel
maybe I think the ships will become a little more famous if they clear the existing bugs as much as they try to bring games.
ebon cedar
You can only wait and adapt sadly
wise hazel
in which year will this come exactly
ebon cedar
No date.
wise hazel
Maybe I may have rebelled a little bit here but I think I'm right.Whenever I make a cargo, it throws it out and everything I can do is waste.the game is called alpha but if alpha ships are cheap, I think if everyone can try everything, it will be more beautiful.
ornate rock
do not run cargo if 30k's bother you
wise hazel
there are 3 jobs in the game right now but there are ships that do not have nearly 10 jobs
There is a first aid ship but no first aid job. There is a discovery ship but no exploration work.
this is really funny
I'm sorry, I swell your head, I just lost 300k and the game will improve in time, maybe 10 years later
ebon cedar
Is there any ship able to mine and still fight atm ?
wise hazel
my friend bought a ship and has been waiting for her to come to the game for 2 years
😄
he talked about driving the ship in her dreams as a dream
amber lark
muted totem
Could buys at less that you buy for. It is a huge loss
pallid temple
I'm trying to work out which moron at CiG thought that a rented Prospector with a water pistol mining laser would be a good idea
woeful gazelle
my run just now. had this single high Q rock right beside me when coming out of quantum in the Yela belt 😅
supple kelp
You could just buy a helix and equip it in the hangar
arctic latch
how much does a good laser cost? i am going to rent one soon
rent a prospector
108k UEC
oof
oblique panther
Depends on the laser tbh
Wow that was a dumb statement
Um I've been running the Klien S1 on my Prospector and havent hit too many issues and its only 10k auec
hollow sedge
the main benefit of the helix is the reduction in instability and resilience, giving bigger green area
for 100k, the quality of life improvements will mean a lot, and you will make that back in 1 hour
ebon moon
Yeah, the helix is 100% worth it, but until then, getting a Kleine or Hofstede isn't a bad idea
woeful moss
With the kleine you can mine every rock but it's way more difficult
but it's a good investment to go mining agricium and getting the 105k for the helix faster imo
peak canyon
do you actually lose your mining laser on your rented Prospector when it expires?
ebon moon
take it off, no problems
peak canyon
I couldn't because of the claiming bug
tame elbow
You can take it off in your hangar option in the main menu
ebon moon
^^ or you can switch to other regions/stations to fix that claiming bug.
peak canyon
already expired by now hm, gonna re-rent and see if it's still there or gone. Either way, the 100k is in in 1 hour
ebon moon
Yeah, I've never kept mine, it's easy to make that money up
oblique panther
What's the best spot to hit? Ive been meaning to start an actual mining kick
ebon moon
Yela belt is really good. I find a lot of quant on Microtech as well
ebon cedar
Carefull with Helix + rental ship. You'll loose it also if you're claiming your ship for any reason (ship destroyed, claiming a copy)
ebon moon
not always true
ebon cedar
Happened to me yesterday. Bug during QT close to PO. Prospector disappears. Claim not working on PO. I go then to another station. It works but no more Helix.
ebon moon
Did you 30k?
ebon cedar
No. The bug when you suddenly float in space during QT and ship gone
ebon moon
Oh, you know what.. the claiming a copy thing could have done it.
ebon cedar
Totally random
ebon moon
I've had my ship destroyed, but didn't lose when I claimed.
turbid plinth
laranite to lorville has been utterly destroyed
buy @ 27.5, sell @ 27.9
you're....selling scrap
just a psa
kind yoke
sell titans
ebon cedar
I decided after that to stop renting and upgrade my Titan (useless for me actually) to a Prospector.
kind yoke
sell titanium from arial lanthan to
turbid plinth
yea i know the alternate hauls
turbid plinth
just funny as heck. Its crushed down to chlorine's margins
kind yoke
too many carracks
turbid plinth
dem merchantman boys have killed it
ebon moon
I've had a cat forever, refused to cargo
kind yoke
saw so many cats at lorville
blissful rain
seen this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCYWx-crRys n
ebon cedar
Trying to figure it out merchandises occupancy
SLAM for ex is 6cSCU / 1 SCU. What does it means exactly ?
600 unit per SCU ? 6 per SCU ?
pallid temple
@ebon cedar 1 SCU is made up of 100 centiSCU
Or rather, 100centiSCU fits into one SCU Crate
ebon cedar
so how much can I stock in 1 SCU ? talking about SLAM unit
pallid temple
It should still be 100centiSCU for 1 SCU
ebon cedar
I'm confused with this then "6cSCU / 1 SCU" off website
woeful moss
Can you give sauce please?
pallid temple
To all you fucking carebear simps who keep suggesting to rent a Prospector, either try renting a Prospector and take it mining, or shut the fuck up with the stupidest advise for mining
woeful moss
Wow, calling people names because you're incapable. Nice trait.
47% inert materials lol
ornate rock
I took a rented prospector out mining, made big cash
1.5 million over the weekend, wasn't even no lifing too much
even with the default mining laser you can make alright cash, just sucks when you have to leave some really tasty rocks behind
wouldn't recommend default laser
woeful moss
He needs to learn how to mine too. Look at his hold.
pallid temple
Ah yes, because you can actually mine in a stock prospector, and not have to waste time with an arbhor mining laser
woeful moss
if you concentrate on Diamond and Titanium you can make enough to buy a good laser
or you invest a little more when you rent it and get a helix
you can always take it off so it doesn't disappear
Even between rentals
ornate rock
he refuses to fit a helix for some reason
I mean sure, mining with a stock prospector is in a bad state
woeful moss
Still, with a good haul of Diamonds you can make 20k+
He said people gave him advice to make money with a rented prospector. I bet those ppl also told him to get another laser
if he refuses it's his decision
But he shouldn't cry then and call ppl names.
ornate rock
it would be nice if there were zones in the game for beginner, intermediate and expert mining, but alas, that's not the case yet
livid rune
You cant modify rented ships anymore.
livid rune
Since Friday,I rented one and it would not let me modify it
The lock symbol never goes away even when stored.
Found this https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/eqmi4c/rented_ships_in_the_persistent_universe_can_no/
Apparently 3.8.1
woeful moss
Okay the trick works as follows:
Way 1: You get into the seat of your rented prospector. Then you get out of it. Open Mobiclass and pick vehicle loadout then just wait, don't pick anything from dropdown menu.
Way 2: Go into self land hangar in main menu, summon the ship and equip laser there, exit, go to PU, done.
Definitely works
woeful gazelle
do you even have to summon the ship in the hangar or can you do it there just straight in the vehicle manager?
woeful moss
I think you need to have it as active ship otherwise it might not load up if you pick nothing
woeful gazelle
latent pasture
best place to mine?
woeful moss
yela, daymar, yela asteroid belt
ebon cedar
Carefull with the hangar trick to put helix on a rented prospect. It might fire back at you. Rented is still essential to quickly test this huge game feature (mining) for 40k only. This way you can spare money with something real in mind.
And for real numbers, some amazing dude here already share his stats. Mining can be good
oblique panther
@ebon moon hey sorry for the ping. But is asteroid mining worth it? I've had a few friends say Asteroids are still bugged and disappear after being broken
woeful gazelle
@oblique panther as asteroid mining in the Yela belt is the way I make pretty much all my money I can tell you that it works for me, however other people report that it is bugged for them in the belt too
warm river
ebon cedar
Hauling ? Everybody is warning about that
It's exactly like doing a Martingale on Casinos. The illusion of short wins when a not so much rare event can destroy you at any moment
naive maple
just lost 500k to 2 30k
@paper coyote I’m finally at 4.6 million aUEC and can now buy a Caterpillar, and these kinds of commonplace stories have me wondering if I should just skip trade and move on to buying a fighter?
paper coyote
i was tying to work up to get a caterpillar i like trading but there needs to be a way to stop 30k from kill you dead
ebon moon
@pallid temple So your first thing to do when you're incompetent is to call people names... good to know. Guess we won't help you anymore.
ebon cedar
They will maybe not prevent 30k anytime soon but at least allows some compensation or "saves" Idk soon
ebon moon
@naive maple I'd still buy a cat... with persistence, you'll probably keep it and it'll be worth it at some point in the future I'm sure
paper coyote
i hope so maybe just get some of the cargo back
ebon moon
@oblique panther I personally don't do the Yela belt (only ocassionally), but Montis does it and his spreadsheet shows he's making $$ with it. Either way, yela moon is still good money.
naive maple
Post 30k, all players load back in at their last starport with the armor and weapons they had on them... why can’t the game load in the ships with their cargo the same way?
ebon cedar
Mystery. I hope it's a real issue and not something fixable in a few hours of works
ebon moon
@naive maple Yeah, I don't get it either... should be a pretty simple QoL adjustment.
tame elbow
because the devs don't give a shit
blissful rain
i was tying to work up to get a caterpillar i like trading but there needs to be a way to stop 30k from kill you dead
@paper coyote and stop full wipes
ebon cedar
Full wipes are necessary. It s like that in many games less complex than this one...
tame elbow
come back in a couple of years
and then you can grind until you get wiped
if you must
ebon moon
Well, they are only going to full wipe 100% 2 more times. Apart from that, we don't know when they will full wipe, but it's completely necessary.
ebon cedar
It's better to invest in game skills/knowledge and player network
Btw just lost my ship to a stupid take off bug at Lorville, impossible to counter. It could have been with a cat full of cargo...
ebon moon
But we know better than to run cat's full of cargo by now...
tame elbow
prices and locations are all almost certainly going to change
they already change slightly each patch
the only thing you're practicing is piloting
ebon cedar
Of course not lol. Lack of imagination
ebon moon
You're also networking... You're learning trade routes (even if the prices changes, you'll still know the routes). You're learning how to mine efficiently (even if prices change)
ebon moon
I mean, honestly, you could do the same thing about 6 months before release and learn all the routes.
tame elbow
agreed
ebon moon
But you're still learning stuff other than piloting
paper coyote
so what the rule of thumb when buying cargo to trade like %30 of you bank i a good risk?
tame elbow
disagreed
ebon moon
@paper coyote Rule of thumb is 0%
tame elbow
50% is generally what people do
paper coyote
k
paper coyote
im going to try mining next time when im back on top
ebon cedar
True until you realize "shit I need 4hrs of server hoping to sell it"
ornate rock
need to do region hopping
servers inventories are synced between regions from what I know
ebon cedar
Easy starter money ? Simply Hurston missions ECN 10k forever. Nothing crazy. Constant 10k every 5 or 10min. Hauling or mining need more experience
ornate rock
ECN missions require combat experience, also they don't respawn very reliable
ebon moon
You can also do the Hurston Personal delivieries
ornate rock
and most people don't do well with combat inside asteroid fields 😄
ebon cedar
I do 1 ECN / 1 bounty/ 1 ECN and so on sometimes bounty spawn on same loc. Plus any call of arms
And I didnt really look deep for improvement
ornate rock
nah, ECN/bounty cycle is alright
ebon cedar
Just don't believe any overestimated trading YouTube video with "wow guys I've got this insaaaaaaae not really new trade route. Go watch my video, like, subscribe, use my referee code, please I beg you I need attention"
tame elbow
don't make fun of my videos
ebon moon
I don't watch any YT of Star Citizen...I'd rather just get in the verse.
tribal goblet
lots of good SC youtubers; unfortunately there's also a lot of bad ones who just use it as a means to advertise their referer codes and kickstarters for new ships "to review"
ebon moon
Tbf, I lied. I have watched the series by something studios that has the commander doing his shenanigans. But that's like 7 vids. I mean, what's a good SC youtuber?
YT: This is new update, everything pushed back, we still might get a shock weapon
or
YT: Watch me bounty hunt
I just don't see any attraction to it. If there are some good RP ones, yeah, I'll probably watch. Everything else, I can just do myself in game or find for myself on the website.
naive maple
Hahaha... I need attention,,, LOL
tribal goblet
I mainly watch the summaries of long posts regarding patches/updates and in depth ship reviews where i can see the interior layout/design
There's one guy who tries to see what ships fit in the carrack for example.
ornate rock
I watch only Camural for his various tests on different game mechanics
naive maple
There are good Star Citizen videos on YT for sure... a few off the top of my head are the ones about free guns, where to find the secret trade terminals, how to locates stash houses without a gps marker, oh and one of my favorites... https://youtu.be/VZYzI7fnwuw
I watch only Camural for his various tests on different game mechanics
@ornate rock those are Great!... I don’t even bother with arm armor anymore cause of one of his
ornate rock
for legs and arms I use light armor since there are some nice looking pieces
ornate rock
I don't tend to get into fps combat anyway, so for me it's just about looks
charred mortar
just lost 500k to 2 30k
@paper coyote late replying, but I've lost slightly more than that these past two days--all gains lost
paper coyote
its suck man hope you get back on top soon
ebon cedar
Stupid bug exiting Prospector and moving too early. Not much but force a suicide... hate it
tame elbow
Owned
trail prism
oblique panther
@woeful gazelle @ebon moon yella moon copy that guys thank you!
ebon moon
Why are people still doing cargo?
regal notch
Cause is relaxing except when it error 30k ? 
ebon moon
I'd say the stress of a 30k beats the monotonous relaxation of cargo anyday.
zinc lynx
I'd do it if I had a decent chunk tbh
ornate rock
you're gonna lose the aUEC anyway at some point
zinc lynx
My friend has been doing it
ebon moon
@ornate rock If that's the mindset people wanna go with, then why play at all? It's all gonna be lost anyway, let's just wait until it isn't...
ornate rock
the certain heat death of the universe will destroy all currency eventually, all is futile!
zinc lynx
Early alpha
ornate rock
seriously tho, bunch of people just enjoy the space trucking, money gained is secondary to them
after you have a cat or carrack, there isn't much room for improvement, aUEC becomes just a number at that point
regal notch
That why people opted for Mining
ebon moon
Not to hate on people's fun. You do you... but how the heck is QT travel, out, in, QT travel, ouit, in loop fun?
ornate rock
could say the same about mining
ebon moon
Mining is at least as twice as interactive
There is atmo flying, or asteroid flying, manual flight, not just some QT autopilot... scanning, mining, hauling.
regal notch
Also cargo should be when you get interdicted or stopped by police
ebon moon
In the future, hauling will not be as monotonous, I'm sure. You'll have security, pirates, all sorts of things involved. But atm, it's literally, QT, Cargo screen, QT, Cargo screen, not much going on.
If they did interdict a lot more, that'd make cargo a bit more entertaining for sure
regal notch
At some point Cargo runs will be risky AF and maybe you will even get a bonus for trading/delivering in zones with high danger zones .
ebon moon
Like when they say in the message there is a risk, there actually being a risk, haha.
hallow flame
I found quantanium on clio, but there is no refinery near microtech... 
ebon cedar
Read a dude today talking about scanning not working at all on Yela Belt. Got the same issue atm. I recognize the mining rocks spawning but they're not recognized as mineable and can't be manually mined either. Bug. Changing server for fixing. Should be very confusing for any new players when it happens the 1st time.
hallow flame
Yes it happened to me too
I just rented a prospector to see (Because everyone is mining) and it's very cool, I made a lot of money, but I search really good spots to make 100 000 or more like I see sometimes
And also, who has interesting trade routes for freelancer?
opal crow
where do i find a helix 2 ?
ebon moon
@hallow flame There is a refinery in New Babbage...
@opal crow Usually all the best shit is in New Babbage.
hallow flame
Shit, I looked on the internet and I saw that there was none, seeing that I didn’t do mining before I didn’t really know...
ebon moon
The best way is to google the "surface" exit on New Babbage... it's the quickest way to the refinery. Alternatively, if you are looking form the spaceport, follow the left most tram and it will lead right to the Commons, which is near the surface exit.
It's like 3 round domes
hallow flame
yes I know I know new babbage by heart but I didn’t know there was a refinery, but thank you !
ebon moon
Yeah, it's at Planetary services in Commons
hallow flame
Ahhhh yes I forgot...
ebon moon
And when I was talking about surface exit, I mean, that's where you want to park, not the spaceport
hallow flame
Yes I know, I forgot there was a refinery, I was knowing it...
And if not, do you know any good routes to do cargo or mining?
hallow flame
Ok thx
fervent marten
https://gyazo.com/c4568ccb29f63db90a5f9ce683740223 just saw someone complain further up this is what you get when you mine correctly XD
ebon moon
That's okay... you can get much more tho.
I can't imagine how long it took that guy to get 100% of agricium
fervent marten
about 5 minuets
as i found 3 rocks that all gave me 100% chunks 😄
and yes it's not the best but that was litrally like a 15 minuet trip so 😄
ebon moon
I'm not sure how you got that... how big was the rock you cracked?
But yeah, that's good for the time. Lucky tho.
fervent marten
no idea big enough i guess i mean 3 rocks not 1 rock that gave me lots 😛
so 3 BIG rocks with a lot of ore in each of them was like 11%-16% for each rock so quite lucky for sure
nothing compared to when i found 3 quantaium rocks that got me 100k+ but still not bad 😄
pure field
whats with all these emoticons. it feels so gay
ebon moon
I mean, you feel how you feel. If you're happy to see emotes, that's good.
pure field
i know that. It looks creepy af. I would understand if its a girl.
or if its a teenage boy
ebon moon
Also could be someone used to talking to girls. Girls love emojis
pure field
eww worst way to talk to girls. with emoji
idk maybe it works with younger girls
i feel like its something a white knight would do tbh
ebon moon
Nah bro... Using emojis makes chatting fun. I should know, I never use emojis and girls always tell me that my chatting is boring. Almost always they recommend more emojis
pure field
LMAAOOOO
I mean do whatever you wanna do but man I cant imagine a manly dude using emoji
ebon moon
I mean, this isn't TRP or MRA or any of that loser shit... I dunno why we're even discussing this here.
pure field
If a girl tells you your chat is boring coz u dont use emoji only the first half is true
youre right shouldnt be discussing this here.
ebon cedar
I don't know if it looks manly or not but it looks stupid for sure... like the dude is using them seriously. Yeah creepy
ebon moon
There are plenty of girls here...
pure field
HAHA you think girls here would be like "oh i see u use emoji slide on my dms uwu
ebon moon
Anyway, this is #off-topic-not-sc 100%, we should really not be clogging up #industrial-professions with our epeen measuring
pure field
right
ebon cedar
Yeah, I guess I just been sent to prison by a player better than me in Pvp. Getting maybe a little salty just before stopping
ebon moon
And honestly, if we're all grown ass men, who gives a fuck how someone else types. This is the dumbest shit to bring up. Slide in his DMs if it bothers you that much.
@ebon cedar Dirty crim
pure field
ANYWAY MINING GOOD
ebon moon
MINING BEST
ebon cedar
Those damn prospector got a small IR signature. Got issues finding them in Yela Belt
ebon cedar
Trying also to insta kill them just after their QT to PO. Can work only with no CS.
Otherwise damn AI harassing you
ebon moon
Treat others how you wanna be treated imo
fervent marten
there are some weird people for sure..... oh well
tame elbow
My only goal is to be memorable and meme worthy
rough pagoda
Friends, where's a good spot for FPS planet side mining? Non-cave 🙂
quick heath
Caves. 😄
rough pagoda
:lol:
pure field
i think there are unmarked caves in hurston
hard to find coz unmarked
i think theyre also updating hadanite spawn in yela
muted totem
There is a marked cave on Aberdeen
tame elbow
i think theyre also updating hadanite spawn in yela
@pure field not only that
any ship will be able to scan for minerals
pure field
that's kinda stupid. that makes exploration ships even more useless
ebon moon
Wait, any ship can scan for minerals? I've never seen an FPS mineral when scanning. Even when flying on Microtech so that I could hand and prospect mine.
paper sierra
Do mining ores spawn in fixed locations or randomly throughout a planet/moon? Last time my buddy and I found a bunch of deposits on Clio. Tonight we haven't found a single thing.
wicked merlin
LFM to group mine
ebon moon
@paper sierra The moons are procedurally generated.
odd hinge
Wow, it is an absolute pain that so many trading consoles aren't working on outposts..
Flew to an outpost to try and buy cargo to find out the terminal was glitched
woeful moss
Yeah. I hope it will get fixed with 3.10 Tried asking for landing permission but that doesn't help either. But with the new heightmaps they also said they visited the outposts etc to make sure they function correctly
This needs to be fixed so more trading testing can be done
odd hinge
yeah
it isn't the only issue
as outposts often also have issues when requesting permission to land
just not getting any response
not sure if the vehicle pads are fixed either
Is it guaranteed atleast 1 outpost works on a planet?
fuck nope it doesnt it seems
Neither of the 2 outposts on magda have functioning trade terminals 😦
woeful moss
I have never gotten permission to land from them But I also only have tried it with one outpost tbh
odd hinge
i've tried at multiple
but none seem to work atm
still
it really freaking sucks
so many trading runs i try take so much longer just because i arrive, and find out the stupid terminal is bugged
can't even get any proper trading done
seems the only locations that consistently work are LZ's
woeful moss
yeah, I feel you and with the risk of 30ks every second longer flying around with cargo is too much
odd hinge
yeah
yesterday i made a good 250K
but today i have made none so far, in like 3 or 4 hours already
woeful moss
ouch
odd hinge
just because i arrived to find a terminal missing
and a 30K
its a pain tbh 😂
checked atleast 5 outposts and none of them had functioning terminals
woeful moss
That's why I don't trade right now. I do 1-3 quick mining runs. Gather a total of maybe 500k in that time and then I do something else
woeful moss
Is there anything on the issue council?
odd hinge
let me check
woeful moss
yeah you should do that. it's less stressfull because if you 30k all you loose is your time
odd hinge
any planets you recommend mining?
woeful moss
Yela, Daymar or Yela asteroid belt
odd hinge
seeing how the scanners are glitched i guess mainly gotta try and mine on vision
woeful moss
but asteroid mining is a little more tedious because you kind have to follow the boxes
so planets are more relaxing
yela is great because you can just decouple and glide of the moon looking for those delicious pop ups
odd hinge
yeah, ill fly over
currently still on hurston
gonna buy a mining head and fly over there
woeful moss
Port olivar has the mining heads too iirc
odd hinge
owh yeah, at DD
Still
i spawn in lorville
might as well pick it up there
and also grab some scrap to take with me for a trade run
odd hinge
Question
were ore selling prices variable depending on where you sell?
Where is better to sell, GrimHex or PO, is probably the better question
woeful gazelle
if you're mining, the sell prices are the same everywhere
odd hinge
not sure
as almost everything in the game that can be bought and sold, can have its values changed depending on how much it's needed or sold
woeful gazelle
I'm 100% sure that it's the same everywhere. trust me on this.
the prices also don't fluctuate
it will always be 88 UEC per unit of Quantainium and 26.875 UEC per unit of Agricium for example
woeful gazelle
and that's just the start of it 🙂
woeful gazelle
happens :/
odd hinge
Was a good 800 of agricium in total almost
woeful gazelle
one of my runs from yesterday
woeful gazelle
yes
odd hinge
damn
gloomy crystal
It must have been really difficult to mine even with a Helix I
odd hinge
Takes a while to mine yeah
issue with quantanium is that they tend to be really unstable rocks
Not bad
messed up slightly sadly
with the aluminium and inert
Max on agricium alone is 86K i believe?
nice though
2 trips and the helix head is paid back 😂
turbid plinth
my magic prospector strikes again! Just turned my whole cargo bay into quantanium
140k out of quartz
woeful gazelle
yeah it happens
turbid plinth
so magical
modest nebula
Best current trade route?
odd hinge
depends on budget and ship
modest nebula
25k budget, freelancer
odd hinge
25K is that your total aUEC amount, or 50% of your total?
odd hinge
okay, so you have around 15K for buying 😂
modest nebula
lol yes
odd hinge
lemme have a look
Probs best to just run Distilled spirits from Bountiful Harvest Hydroponics on Daymar
Or Terra Mills Hydrofarm and/or Gellete Family Farms on Cellin
lemme check the easiest place to sell
Easiest is actually
Terra Mills HydroFarm <-> GrimHex
or
Gallete Family Farms <-> GrimHex
odd hinge
yeah
woeful gazelle
I think GrimHex is the place where you sell
gloomy crystal
then go to the other place and sell?
@modest nebula Sounds easy right?
modest nebula
yes
gloomy crystal
You will have stories to tell
woeful moss
Haha enjoy your first trading 30k
modest nebula
cant buy distilled spirits for some reason
woeful gazelle
where are you trying to buy
modest nebula
terra mills
woeful gazelle
can you buy anything?
modest nebula
i will freeze to death
woeful moss
Take some fotos
modest nebula
but good idea
woeful moss
Dunno,can't remember. But as long as you can buy everything should be fine
But Outposts are bugged as hell right now too
So no way to really tell
woeful gazelle
nice. I guess you got the bug with increased Q amount, too
woeful gazelle
did you fill up your cargo?
odd hinge
my cargo was actually 76% quantanium
woeful gazelle
were you 100% full?
odd hinge
yeah
woeful gazelle
so you lost something in the end
woeful gazelle
yes I'm looking and it says 2729 units
instead of 3200 which is a full prospector
woeful gazelle
well, it could've been 225k :p
with a full prospector and the same percentages
anyhoo where'd you mine? Yela surface?
odd hinge
yup
yela really is a mixed bag though
first 2 runs were good ones
at around 80K each
and then had an hour where i found nothing of value
and then this run
woeful gazelle
yeah, I believe there are "zones" where there's good stuff and bad stuff. I don't really know where yet, though. same applies to the belt, I think
odd hinge
i think it just spawns RNG
ornate rock
go to daymar for mining, contrast on the surface is so much better to find rocks quickly
woeful gazelle
but like if I spent 10 minutes in the belt only finding gold and corundum I jump somewhere else
odd hinge
to be honest
woeful gazelle
and then suddenly Laranite and Quantainium
odd hinge
the issue with rocks on yela wasn't that i recognised them
more that they just didn't seem to spawn
ornate rock
this is why daymar is great
woeful gazelle
you get Q rocks on there?
ornate rock
stuff in front, bad environmental crap rocks, with low render distance, green stuff is good mineables with high render distance
there is quantainium, yes. had a few clusters
but I ended up doing more belt mining, since it's easier to semi afk without atmo/gravity and without a surface to crash into 😄
woeful gazelle
the only thing that would make me go to a surface to mine Q is the "fly on sight" and potentially bigger rocks
asteroids seem to be more normalized and all are between 4.5 and 5.5k mass
ornate rock
asteroid mining has the advantage that the pieces break off and fly apart a little, on the surface it all clumps together
easier to remember which where the good pieces though
woeful gazelle
and it also sometimes drops through the surface
ornate rock
yepp, that too
hollow sedge
Hello
ornate rock
which is why I started to blow up bad stuff to disperse the rocks a little
hollow sedge
Did they nerf agricium stock at mining area 147 daymar?
turbid plinth
the REAL reason to do asteroids is taht they are larger and have higher %s
asteroids are almost all 4k mass and above. you reguarly fill up after 1 or 2 rocks
gloomy crystal
this is why daymar is great
@ornate rock Oooh thats juicy info. I like this.
ornate rock
works on all moons with mineables, but other moons have a lot more dark features making it harder to distinguish rocks from surface texture
crystal rock
Can you mine asteroids with the utility tool? And can you mine those big rocks on planets with it?
woeful gazelle
no, you can't
ebon cedar
Sometimes asteroid rocks drop little "gems" mineable (I guess) with the utility tool. Not worth it they say. Special icon on it.
drifting flower
The game just deleted some of my ore and didn't give me my money from the terminal.
ebon moon
Honestly, vision isn't that important when you get a bitg ole box around rocks.
warm mason
@drifting flower same here - mined on Microtech, got some QT and 4 other ores, went to sale at terminal - QT was gone but the rest remained - this has not happened at PO
ebon cedar
Sometimes bugs are good. Was expecting a 50-60% cargo of QT. Terminal said 96%.... ok I take it
naive maple
Dammit y’all are lucky!
I’m trying to mine on Clio and all the boulders I find are invisible!... you know how hard it is to extract invisible boulders?!
naive maple
6 in one, half dozen bugs in the other, eh?
Is this invisible boulder issue known?, if so, is it limited to Clio?
turbid plinth
could be that people have mined it
i have seen the invisible rocks on yela too. i just assumed someone else got thrre 1st
naive maple
No, I cracked it open and extracted the Quant and sold it
But it was difficult trying to place the target and hold still once the stats along the right of the screen tells you it’s on the rock
Sounds like I finally have something to report! Hahaha... never done a bug report b4
ebon cedar
No way in Yela someone has been first lol. The belt is insanely huge
It's so huge, finding a Prospector for combat is a challenge.
naive maple
turbid plinth
i always see otehr pros's when surface mining
tame elbow
what kind of 'tism is this "recording the monitor" nonsense
quick heath
<_>
naive maple
Besides, I can’t even figure out where the screenshots save to!
quick heath
Install folder\StarCitizen\Live\screenshots
naive maple
Thx Kam
quick heath
o/
naive maple
See, it’s definitely there
ebon cedar
Belt mining is more stable, profitable than surface.
turbid plinth
aaand the game just duped my prospector 5 times
it completely broke my game. had to log out for 10 mins
came back to prospector-5
blissful rain
lol
@turbid plinth
proven token
Every time i have been to yela's belt i've encountered a glich
kind yoke
the rock disappear?
proven token
Sometimes there will be like ghost astroids
they hit on the ping, but they arnt there
oblique panther
lol sold all my cargo 2 minutes before a 30k. If only it wasn't scrap
karmic nimbus
Belt mining is more stable, profitable than surface.
@ebon cedar Any recommendations to prevent scanning bugs where rocks disappear?
naive maple
Spam the scan button every 5 seconds for only 2 seconds... don’t let it charge fully
blissful rain
@naive maple to what setting? 8x for example?
thin island
I like to put it just inside the circle, I think it's 4x in a 180deg arc in front of you
you'll miss stuff behind you, but as long as you aren't moving too fast you'll have an easy time finding stuff ahead
tribal goblet
2x is the 180 degree arc; 4x is like a 90degree cone
ebon cedar
@ebon cedar Any recommendations to prevent scanning bugs where rocks disappear?
@karmic nimbus If no rock on the scan lock, it means it's a merge between 2 or more rocks. It's explained on tutos. If it's another bug idk.... lot of bugs sadly
woeful gazelle
ok guys I finally managed to put my mining guide on a separate website. it's still very much WIP and additional info will be added along with a better formatting etc
https://sites.google.com/view/starcitizenminersguide
unborn surge
@woeful gazelle that video explains alot 🙂 thxs for that vid
woeful gazelle
video is from @rich bane, thank them 🙂
unborn surge
thank u finding it 😛
woeful gazelle
haha they posted it here, I just incorporated it into my guide
unborn surge
thanks to them too iguess
woeful gazelle
as my system isn't great at handling videos and I hate video editing 😛
unborn surge
alway had issues finding rocks in the belts 😛
woeful gazelle
but I might have to record some stuff for the guide too
or at least take some screenshots that are specific to the stuff I'm explaining
unborn surge
well at least i know now i wasnt doing the scanning correctly was only doing it half right
woeful gazelle
yeah, scanning has changed a lot with 3.9 but even before that I wasn't doing it right either. I've learned a lot during asteroid mining
unborn surge
i kinda gave up on the belts lol and just did planetside
woeful gazelle
I basically constantly switch between the zoom levels and if I lose some mineables, I usually go to x1 and to a small charge ping to try to find them again
naive maple
Maze?
regal notch
Cant , you can get it only from a mission on ArcCrop .
naive maple
@woeful gazelle congrats Montis!... great job on that guide... lots of useful info minus the fluff!
woeful gazelle
thank you. I'll work on it over the coming weeks to hopefully make the info better structured and more concise
and with added visual references like my own videos and stuff
and maybe add like super basic stuff too
like I saw on the video for the prospector renting guide that the guy didn't use the basic scan functionality and only switched to the mining mode to scan 🤦 I want to fight this kind of un-knowledge
naive maple
and maybe add like super basic stuff too
@woeful gazelle there’s plenty of the super basic stuff out there... this is a great guide for those that have already tried mining a couple of times!
woeful gazelle
I guess that was my original intention but maybe I can make it multi-page where you can just select what you're looking for and if you're completely new there's still some info for you
gloomy flume
https://ss.rampagenetworks.com/X/tNOvLs0pf6.jpg carrack full of laranite. Bought it for 1,098,960
From lathan to lorville cbd
naive maple
Just now?
gloomy flume
Yeah
naive maple
Man both the websites for trading are just useless right now!
gloomy flume
It fluctuates wildly
naive maple
If there were no 30k’s I wouldn’t care... I’d just fly around and figure it out... but with rampant 30k’s you can’t afford to float around with your bank account in your cargo hold!
gloomy flume
Well ima at 5mil from 2mil again now so I have a buffer
naive maple
Nice!... I just bought the Cat in game and am at 1 mil... haven’t done a single run with the Cat yet LOL
gloomy flume
Gonna be tandeming cats tomorrow with a buddy
Giving him 25% a load
(25% of 2 cats)
125k seems good pay lol
naive maple
Sign me up!
gloomy flume
Sorry, personal working only
naive maple
LOL
gloomy flume
Only irl buddies get that pay
naive maple
That’s good of you!
proven token
nice
naive maple
After work today, I’ll try some diamond runs... those cost around 400k to fill a Cat still, right?
gloomy flume
Cant remember
novel nacelle
yup - about 400k
naive maple
Hahaha... YAY... a bug that finally worked in MY FAVOR!....
Got to sell my 40% Quantanium load twice! Hahaha... extra $96k... I’ll take it!
steady osprey
is there any way to ensure 100% chunks (or other high % fracture) when ship mining?
or is it all just random?
pallid temple
Its random
But usually if you fracture a rock without overcharging it, you'll get a clean fracture
naive maple
^^
pallid temple
I once had like 12% agricium, cracked it and the 12% agricium went into about 300mass at 100% agricium
woeful gazelle
imho it strongly depends on the material. quantainium, agricium and laranite have a tendency to break into good chunks while most other materials don't
pallid temple
That too
odd hinge
also just seems to partially be RNG
i've had rocks that were not overcharged, crack in horrible percentages
pallid temple
That too
odd hinge
But from what i have noticed
it does generally look like, the higher the total % of the ore, the higher chance of good cracks (so it being properly chunked together)
ebon cedar
Ok there is def a huge bug rgarding mining and final cargo. On Beryl+QT+shit rocks, after mining them, sometimes all minerals are QT when you sell. Like I'm mining a 10% QT rock and end up with 85% QT cargo (impossible) with no Beryl (I mined a lot of Beryl....).
pallid temple
Yeah there's a few bugs with mining currently
ebon cedar
So instead of selling for 80k has expected, I end up with 250 potentially x2 x3 with another bug
pallid temple
The one I had a few days ago was a weird one
pallid temple
I had cargo literally disappear on me as I was mining
I was at 23% cargo capacity, went to extract stuff from a rock and it reset to 0%
ebon cedar
Had this one time. RTB and changing serveur asap
I just fked up flying to a brand new 14% QT rock... curbed trajectory, didn't see another huge rock coming from below. Dead... 😫
naive maple
Finally!
quick heath
Damn
naive maple
It was really supposed to be about 60% Quantanium... one 5k rock at 19%... but it bugged out and gave me an extra $100k apparently
blissful rain
Someone said we could get uec all reset in 3.10 because of this update btw
peak canyon
I can see that too, a lot of money exploits and weird bugs like that
if not in 3.10 then in the next few updates
naive maple
You know how many millions lost to 30k’s... it’s be bullshit if they then tried to screw us for shit that isn’t even under our control!... the double sell... Quantanium was about to blow up in my hold! ... I HAD to sell it or go boom... and the 60% hold of Quantanium that turned into 100%... It can just as easily turn into 100% inert material... so why would they punish everyone for some players getting a minor benefit by accident... it’s not like I had any choice or am somehow gonna magically make up for the millions lost to 30k’s
drifting flower
that's a fair point. glitching the sale at a terminal does, in some small part, make up for the lost money and time to 30ks and 10ks.
ebon cedar
I can't fill up the prospector 3200/3200 during the selling? Is that normal ? During mining it's fill up though
Like cargo parts damaged or something like that. weird. my friend the same, different value
naive maple
That’s the bug we’re talking about... or at least that bug was tied to my above 100% Quantanium sale as well
Are trading prices, dynamic pricing, going to be addressed in 3.10?
pallid temple
I doubt it
strong kayak
It seems like no matter what I do I can't get my ship to show up at mining site/drug house trading consoles.
It will show up at station and city trading consoles.
hoary pasture
anyone doing MOLE mining and need a crew
sick hearth
@hoary pasture yes actually we do missions with 3 moles at a time always empty seats .
Most people take a share of 60-66k uec
drifting flower
can i join?
sick hearth
If anyone is interested in joining group mining missions they can message scottiejay on spectrum . I’ll get you more info there . Currently mining is on Friday and Saturday . We also have other content available but I’m personally looking for more miners
You can private message here as well if you like .
Sorry 18+ only
naive maple
@woeful gazelle thanks to you, I finally had a great day of mining... first one ever!
woeful gazelle
you're welcome ^^
vocal sigil
anybody know a good place to off load agricultural; equipment
errant cradle
!commodity agricultural
bitter wraith
vocal sigil
thx
jade violet
do different stations pay different amounts for ore?
woeful gazelle
no
jade violet
ok ty
sleek sundial
anyone got a mole they fancy taking me for a ride on?
odd hinge
do different stations pay different amounts for ore?
@jade violet For mined ore they don't.
For commodity ores (which you buy at trading stations) it can differ.
gloomy crystal
Trade ore is definitely different, I even think it fluctuates in individual ports from the difference in my selling from day to day or server to server.
raw kite
o7 everyone, recently upgraded one of my ships to a mole haven't been in the mining profession in a while. If I land just outside of the commons in new babbage would I be able to sell my ore? or does my ship have to be landed in one of the hangars to sell it, couldn't find any concrete answers when I looked it up
woeful moss
yes
you can land outside of commons at this point
you don't have to be in hangars as of right now
raw kite
okay cool thank you!
harsh vale
guys, some help please. Where can I find Maze? By the looks of it is a Drug or something like that... I keep seeing it on the price list webpages... but can't find any information about that
hoary pasture
I'm looking for a crew for mining in a mole anyone down ?
unborn surge
@harsh vale u have to do the twitch mission to get maze
ornate rock
best to check #looking-for-session @hoary pasture
unborn surge
@harsh vale looks like so https://dto9r5vaiz7bu.cloudfront.net/rqfd7ybaso0v5/source.jpg can also find maze on reck missions too to take but not tested if u can turn them in for profit
not tested it
harsh vale
@harsh vale looks like so https://dto9r5vaiz7bu.cloudfront.net/rqfd7ybaso0v5/source.jpg can also find maze on reck missions too to take but not tested if u can turn them in for profit
@unborn surge thank you very much
unborn surge
to test it u can place them on a cargo slot and see if u can sell at a hidden term
let me know if it works 🙂
@harsh vale ur most welcome
woeful gazelle
@harsh vale looks like so https://dto9r5vaiz7bu.cloudfront.net/rqfd7ybaso0v5/source.jpg can also find maze on reck missions too to take but not tested if u can turn them in for profit
@unborn surge collecting cargo from those missions is absolutely not worth it until they add some sort of better persistance. the stuff will all despawn if no one is close to it so if you get out of your ship and try to sell it off and have a bit of travel to the terminal it's most likely vanished from your ship at that point
and even if you manage to get to the terminal in time it's only worth a few hundred UEC (the drugs might be a bit more, unsure) so again - totally not worth it
hoary pasture
!commodity quantarite
errant cradle
Bot should have been off for the channel, #🤖┃bot_commands for your bot needs 
woeful gazelle
also, quantarite is absolutely not a thing
hoary pasture
i misspel the name
woeful gazelle
I figured but in that case the bots won't know what to do with it either
unborn surge
thats why i said test it and see since i havent 🙂
but i do know this the packages u pick up of recks as along as ur not too far they dont go poof 🙂
woeful gazelle
yeah but the sale terminals are usually "too far", that's the issue
the only one that isn't is in P.O and you can't sell drugs (and a bunch of other stuff) there
unborn surge
who said u need to park on a pad 🙂 u do know u cargo still shows up on terms as long as they near by 🙂
atm
woeful gazelle
I meant when selling in one of the main stations
wouldn't even know if you can sell at an outpost
charred anvil
so there is a God
jade violet
i did similar just then too! my first run was 3K then i got a chart up of what's worth the most and then got 65K 😄
is that a rental?
charred anvil
nah its mine
jade violet
i rented one, so im gonna farm up as much as i can and buy one ingame i think, quick and easy BUG FREE money
ebon cedar
Not bug free at all lol. Especially using a rented one. You'll see.
jade violet
really? what happens?
jade violet
oh 😦
ebon cedar
From scanner issues, helix disappear on rented, cargo % after mining completely crazy (good and bad)....
X2 x3 sell sometimes (very good one)
It's not stable. But it a good way to earn money despite all issues. Maybe the best for time spent and low risks
jade violet
all ive run into so far is that im trying to scan the belt around yella and it wont pick anything up
on surface it does
nvm got one xD
ebon cedar
Yela belt is good. Yesterday I did 2 times a 250k+ run
Partially because of cargo bug
If you can find someone to help scan rocks, it's much better. 2x scan power. It's all about rock finding.
jade violet
yeah thats what seems to be taking time
ebon cedar
3x prospector will do immensely better than 3 ppl in a Mole
woeful gazelle
Plarx check out my guide
https://sites.google.com/view/starcitizenminersguide
ebon cedar
This guide is like a bible to me now;)
Teaching this mining religion to my noob friends
woeful gazelle
so there is a God
😅
ebon cedar
What maybe missing is a strong advise on scanning limitations. And some organisation ideas. Like ppl with rented and no helix can still be extremely valuable as rock finders
And rock seller. Fracturing is not the bottleneck
brisk sapphire
after mining quantanium and making back to port and selling , anyone also had the warning about cargo explosive , and then taking damage from it exploding on a empty cargo hold ,
jade violet
it seems the rocks i scan in the belt keep moving =\
naive maple
after mining quantanium and making back to port and selling , anyone also had the warning about cargo explosive , and then taking damage from it exploding on a empty cargo hold ,
@brisk sapphire I had the warning light still on and thought I screwed up at the terminal so ran back in and sold it... turns out I had to sell it twice
ebon cedar
it seems the rocks i scan in the belt keep moving =
@jade violet scan bug issue on rock localisation
brisk sapphire
ohoo ill have to double check that iv stored it so maybe its still there , blimey , many thanks o7
ebon cedar
x2 x3 sell bug (exploit ?) Is real. In theory you can then make 750k+ in 1 run.
ornate rock
3.10 brings rock scanning to all vehicles
ebon cedar
Wow. Even better. The group strat will be perfet (1 miner, lot of finders)
ornate rock
but I am not sure if that includes all rocks or just hand mineables
I'd assume all rocks
I hope it's all rocks.
then you can fly around and scan rocks while the other person is mining, selling at the refinery etc
the prospector kinda sucks at scanning, since it's so painful to fly that thing above SCM
ornate rock
also much safer if the mining ship doesn't constantly announce its position with pings
and you have a few fighters than can QT to your position quickly
I think that might actually be quite a fun thing for three people
ebon cedar
Yeah, very good actually. Though so far I've never been attacked during mining and I tried myself to hunt/kill miners with little to no success. Belt is huuuuge
hollow sedge
What happens when you extract rocks when cargo is full?
ebon cedar
you upset the AI lady
jade violet
poor lady
hoary pasture
loll'
heady edge
shouldn't i be able to sell Laranite at Lorville?
ebon cedar
Another mining bug, sometime cargo go back to zero in the middle of mining. Cargo disappear
hollow sedge
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA dont you love warping to area 18 and the warp drive placing you under the surface immediately killing you with 300k cargo
vocal chasm
xd
jade violet
someone said i should trade "runes" from Cellin to GH. what are runes?
hollow sedge
someone interested in joining my mining mission? ship will be provided and iyou will get paid
naive maple
Is there a limit to how much med supplies you can sell to Lorville?
quick heath
Yeah, all commodities have a max a place will buy or sell at one point
naive maple
Hmmm... Lorville and Area 18 will consistently buy all the Diamonds, Titanium, Agricium and Laranite that you show up with... is the same not true of Med Supplies?... I know the mining facilities on Lyria have limits to how many med supplies they want, but I was more concerned with Lorville and Area 18
blissful rain
then you can fly around and scan rocks while the other person is mining, selling at the refinery etc
@ornate rock need a mole really so you can mine enough rocks to share the profit equally with others
proven token
The mole really could use its ability to filter inert- like the prospector.
Both of 'em dont seem to have any ability to do so
Unless it is passively doing it but i havent seen that be the case
woeful gazelle
nah, definitely not the case
ornate rock
I dislike the idea of filtering inert on ships
kinda defeats the purpose of going for high quality ores
woeful gazelle
someone said i should trade "runes" from Cellin to GH. what are runes?
@jade violet maybe they meant you should do trade "runs"?
kinda defeats the purpose of going for high quality ores
@ornate rock well, if it only filters out inert, you could still get stuck with trash-tier minerals like aluminum etc
ornate rock
and then people demand mineral filters
I'd rather see maybe a some option for a ship blade that reduces the amount of inert materials sucked in, eg 50%
that would still reward people going for high quality blobs, but make the low quality ones somewhat more valuable
ornate rock
it just doesn't really make a lot of sense to have that on a ship that isn't extremely large, I could see that on an orion for example
woeful gazelle
mole isn't exactly small
ornate rock
but filtering ores to a good level of purity isn't really something that should be done on small ships like the prospector or mole imho
in comparison to an orion it's kinda small
not that we really know the true size of the orion though 😄
ebon cedar
Mole should have ore filtering, but not the prospector. It would balance things out. Mole is not efficient currently compared to 3 prospect.
Waste of human power (but it's fun)
ornate rock
I don't think that ore filtering should be the solution to that problemn
the mole has three lasers to be able to deal with rocks that are too large for the prospector
there are no rocks that are too large for the prospector
once that changes (maybe with pyro), the mole will have a better purpose
ebon cedar
Yeah for sure
proven token
Pyro is suppose to be resource stripped
ornate rock
nope, watch the latest ISC
proven token
Theres a big belt in stanton that seperates microtech and crusader areas
ornate rock
Jared made hints that Pyro II being a coreless planet and stripped of resources might have been ... reworked
he didn't specifically say how, but to me it would make sense to turn pyro - at least for the time being - into a resource rich, but lawless system
proven token
Ah yes they did mention that didnt they
I guess bring miners and guns
Atm, filling up a mole dosnt seem to be worth paying an escort for protection from anything though? I guess cargo transfer between it and a hauler could make it worth it though
proven token
Yea i heard him
ornate rock
if that doesn't work, it's at 9:48
proven token
I didnt catch it the first time i watched it
ornate rock
ye, just in case others are interested
maybe they return the values to the original intended values, but let us do the core stripping during the alpha until they have more systems
cinder steppe
core stripping sounds interesting
proven token
If theres going to be valuable ore i guess it could be worth it to bring friends, idk what core stripping means
ornate rock
the planet lost its core due to the extensive mining operations on it
it used to have a metal core, which was stripped from it, leaving mostly inert rock
that was the original story iirc
proven token
Sounds like more then a few moles did that
Sounds like a company set up a huge facility to do it
ornate rock
after the discovery of pyro it quickly turned into a gold rush with people from all over the place moving in
but that story never really made a lot of sense, considering how dead and inhospitable the system is
proven token
The only things big enough in mass to do it is orions but they cant go planetside?
ornate rock
there is still a bunch of other mining equipment that players don't have access to
look at levksi borehole for example
proven token
True i suppose, waiting for more mining stuff myself
ornate rock
I can also imagine that prospector and mole will have trouble mining on planets in the future
ornate rock
once cargo weight is implemented, you might not want to fly them in dense atmo with strong gravity
which is probably how they can make those mining rovers usefull
proven token
Engines can only push in one direction
ornate rock
on moons the prospector is alright, never used it on any actual planet
proven token
Mole has some power but is a fuel hog
Take the prospector to celin
Its misserable
ornate rock
ah no, I think it flies quite alright... for a mining ship
proven token
You dont even gain altitude if you hold space to go up
You gotta hit j and switch to vtol
ornate rock
I never had that issue... and I don't even bother with vtol
ornate rock
yeah, I used to mine quite a bit there
proven token
Yela isnt THAT bad
They fly so bad you think they would be full
But they are empty
The mole is ok, sucks iu fuel
And switching seats is lame if you are solo
I'd love to see that old Spider miner come back
Be a space only miner
Dosnt seem like it would have the power to go in and out of atmosphere
ornate rock
I am not even sure if that thing has a quantum drive
to me it looks like it just gets dropped off by another ship and the storage sacks then get collected
ornate rock
according to the wiki it doesn't have one, but I am not even sure that we will see one in the PU before SQ42 releases
then again, considering how huge they are, there isn't even a ship that could carry them. (ignoring military carriers)
woeful gazelle
I wonder if SQ42 has any use for any of these industrial type ships and vehicles
ornate rock
Freelancer had a very combat focused storyline, but you could still go around mining or hauling cargo to make money in between
so I'd assume there is nothing preventing you from doing the same in SQ42 considering how close both games are in concept
on the other hand you are kinda pegged into the navy member role, so not sure if it will actually give you as much freedom
woeful gazelle
considering how close both games are in concept
are they? I thought it's more of a Wing Commander type game where you just follow a military story line
ornate rock
Freelancer was kinda the first time Chris tried to make what Star Citizen is becoming now
woeful gazelle
yeah exactly. so freelancer = SC and wing commander = SQ42
ornate rock
so ye, I think with it being more similar in storyline to the Wing Commander series, you might be locked into the military role completely
woeful gazelle
not that I mind, I was just wondering if those ships have any purpose in SQ42. I can see escorting an orion or similar, but I don't think you'll be flying a prospector or something
maybe the scrapper ships if there's some important info to be picked up or something, but then again other ships have tractor beams, too (theoretically, anyway)
reef narwhal
Is it possible to carry even a single box in the cargo of a mustang alpha?
woeful gazelle
it should be
reef narwhal
I just can't figure it out...no matter how i try it just doesn't work?
pallid temple
Its not currently
woeful gazelle
oh now that I think of it there seems to be a bug with the mustang
sick hearth
People interested in a mole mining group send me a message .
Looking for newbies and experienced . Prospectors welcome to join as support pay out is 100%
woeful moss
what? so you will work for free?
sick hearth
Everything made is split even between participants yes
Average run makes a player 50-60k on a run
tender kestrel
@reef narwhal Last time I tried moving single box in Mustang Delta (similar to Alpha with no cabin space) during Free Fly, I stood on its guns that I rotated to one side and throw the box between monitors and pilot seat and it stayed there. It may sometimes clip through the ship though and you may need a few tries to make it work https://gyazo.com/f048f9ae56e6aff6db83f9ead93e4480
reef narwhal
Ok cool...thanks!!
wheat remnant
do any ships have smuggling compartments
tender kestrel
I don't think there are any ships that have compartments that cannot be scanned so far. Mercury Star Runner is suppose to have entire nonscannable cargo hold and Corsair may have few small places in the hull that won't be scannable @wheat remnant
wheat remnant
thx
granite imp
modular ships are supposed to be getting stealth/scrambled cargo pods at some point too
best strategy for running contraband is to free plot your quantum jumps by stopping half way and going around known scan routes
odd hinge
The MSR is gonna get a place for illegal cargo yeah
the krarken privateer ships are also gonna have shielded off cargo areas
naive maple
I love the Caterpillar!!
languid pilot
which websites do you guys recommend for a nice cargo haul?
naive maple
And not just for the half million per hour earning capacity... but it’s just so... blue collar worker bee feel to it!
And it slows down pretty fast!... lands about anywhere
Any word about the modules for it?... other than à that around the verse from 2015?
Gallog and SC Trading are good for figuring out what sells and buys where?
Just don’t trust the prices
languid pilot
but the profit/loss estimates should be correct?
naive maple
No... prices are dynamic
But as far as where to buy lower and where It sells higher, that part is accurate.... just not the profit amounts themselves
hollow sedge
yela belt is good but there is a bug where asteroids disappear after breaking them
tribal goblet
Not at Yela
hollow sedge
so u can mine there?
hollow sedge
ah then its the best place for mining rn
tribal goblet
Yela belt and surface
placid bridge
any specific spot on Yela or just anywhere?
worldly trout
stick close to PO, that's the easiest place to sell minerals
the rock locations are random so anywhere will do
blazing rock
Hey guys need your advise, I’m thinking in renting a Prospector for 3 days. Is it easy to make profit?
proven token
it is kinda hard to use a rented prospector due to the prospector needing an upgraded laser
the rented ship can not get a new laser on it without a glich i believe
and the laser is 108k
dusk saddle
laser is 108
bold lynx
the rented ship can not get a new laser on it without a glich i believe
@proven token rented ship can be upgraded but you need to remove all upgrades before rent time ends or you lost all of them
tame elbow
this is possible due to a glitch my dude
knotty bloom
Anyone familiar with the Mole?
Site says 24 pods @ 12 scu/each
Well.. I guess it does say up to 8 pods at any time.. which equates to 9600cSCU
So as of now, since I can't eject/rotate these pods, my capacity is 3x that of a Prospector?
woeful gazelle
96 is the current capacity, yes
the jettison thing isn't implemented yet
@placid bridge
check out my guide if you plan on mining the yela belt
https://sites.google.com/view/starcitizenminersguide/
naive maple
@tame elbow daaaammm.... where did you find that, Fruitless?
woeful moss
probably yela asteroid belt
woeful gazelle
