industrial-professions

[thin island]

Yeah I don't think the impact is worth the upgrade over the hof, better to just save for helix

The hof only struggles on rocks over like 6500mass

Everything else you can wiggle the laser around to push it into the green

And honestly most of the time spent mining is on flying around anyway so a few seconds saved raising temps is nothing

[loud mist]

Question on boxes found during missions... Had a contract to locate a flight recorder. Can I do anything with the extra boxes that where at the crash site?

[drifting flower]

you can keep them and if you find anymore missions for that area you can just drop off the designated box to where it needs to go.

[stuck shale]

whats the best guns i can get for my argo mole ship ?

[drifting flower]

guns are pretty much moot on a mining ship.

so don't worry about them

[stuck shale]

i know but still wanna be able at least to kill some AI

😄

[drifting flower]

stick with energy

[jovial gyro]

what is inert material?

[drifting flower]

just regular stone

[jovial gyro]

should i pick it up or no?

[thin juniper]

I feel like I'm finally figuring this game out but I have worn out my only decent trade routes. dalmar to port O

with distilled spirits

I literally ran them out

Any other cargo runs I should check out?

[jovial gyro]

hey guys i have a question. If a friend and I mined in a ship together. the owner is the only one that will get rewards? is th ere a way to split?

[thin juniper]

You could use a beacon

and they just set the price for half the amount

[pure field]

beacon

[ebon moon]

@thin juniper Yeah, the best cargo route is not doing cargo atm... unless you want to eventually lose everything.

And @thin island If you have a helix, you can claim without taking it off in the hangar. You really only lose the helix if your rental ends before taking it off.

[pure field]

pickup the quest put him in your ship and quest complete

im pretty sure you cant upgrade rented ships

[ebon moon]

you can

[pure field]

lmao no you cant upgrade rented ships

idk what ur smoking

[ebon moon]

HUR HUR HUR... yeah you can... I do it all the time.

[pure field]

ok im gonna go rent one and try it out

[hollow sedge]

Hello

[ebon moon]

well, you gotta know how to do it

[hollow sedge]

How long does it take for laranite to refresh at a terminal?

[ebon moon]

which if you scroll up here, you'll fine both ways

usually takes things about 5 mins or so to refresh... I wouldn't recommend cargo atm tho

[hollow sedge]

Alright thanks.

[thin juniper]

@thin juniper Yeah, the best cargo route is not doing cargo atm... unless you want to eventually lose everything.

And @thin island If you have a helix, you can claim without taking it off in the hangar. You really only lose the helix if your rental ends before taking it off.
@ebon moon Unfortunately it's the only way to make a lot of money. I don't have enough for a prospector rental or the upgraded laser you also lose if you 30k..

[ebon moon]

You don't lose the upgraded laser at 30k

And if you have money to make money off of cargo, you have money to rent a prospector

[pure field]

to anyone whos thinking of upgrading a rented ship YOU CANT. you have to use a bug to do so

[ebon moon]

Oh pooh

Regardless if it's a bug or not... You can. You're concerned about exploiting an Alpha that bugs out on you all the time?

[coral drum]

Same reason you can't upgrade a rental in real life, the ship doesn't belong to you

[pure field]

its misleading my dude

dont jsut throw around saying you can upgrading rented ships. you have to know itsd a bug

[ebon moon]

There are 2 ways...

1.) Get out the prospector... fly out a ways or start traveling to your destination. Then open up your ship manager in mobiglass, but don't select a ship. It will auto select the Prospector, put on your helix.

2.) Go to your hangar (outside of the PU) and do the above.

Regardless if it's a bug or not, it's a well-known way to upgrade rented ships. When you can no longer upgrade rented ships, we won't tell people to upgrade rented ships

[thin juniper]

You CAN upgrade a rental

Also, I hate mining. lol

[pure field]

its an alpha game thjat is trying to remove bugs. a newbie doesnt know which is a bug or not. what if 9.10 comes in and then they get surprised their helix turns to dust.

[ebon moon]

I feel that @thin juniper But at least it's more interactive than cargo... you have to actively do something... cargo, you just QT.

[thin juniper]

There flying and landing and running around and consoles

[ebon moon]

Then we'll all have our helix turn to dust. Who cares if you know it's a bug or not if you're making hand over fist money using it? I don't tell people about a REAL bug like being able to double-sell sometimes at terminals.

@thin juniper you do that in mining too 😛

[thin juniper]

I just know whenever I watch mining videos I start to fall asleep

it's SOOO boring

[ebon moon]

haha... yeah, it's boring, but I just get way mooore bored QTing everywhere

[pure field]

lmao and you think cargo is not

[thin juniper]

no I like cargo

[pure field]

you like cargo coz you dont fall asleep in your qt?

[thin juniper]

I like the managing and pirates

[ebon moon]

I think the adrenaline of if 30k gonna happen or not

keeps her awake

[thin juniper]

Well my current route I only QT for like a couple minutes

I spend more time landing than in QT.

[ebon moon]

I used to Hur-L1 to PO

[pure field]

Id rather shove up my ass than do cargo

shovbe my finger up my ass*

[ebon moon]

doing quick scrap...

[thin juniper]

lol

[ebon moon]

Until I kept losing it all to cargo

[thin juniper]

I will eventually to mining

[ebon moon]

And @pure field Have you never done that??? It's quite enjoyable

[thin juniper]

but it's gonna hurt

[pure field]

i have

yela to PO or HUR L3 to PO and Lyria to PO

[thin juniper]

I only cargo half my money now so 30k doesn't hurt tooo much

[ebon moon]

I meant the finger thing

[pure field]

ah nah

[thin juniper]

When a location runs out of an item to sell to you how long does it take to regenerate?

[ebon moon]

Yeah, I dunno how much you have, I just feel you need to have big cargo loads to make it worth it. Or else you're doing small 10-20k runs...

About 5 mins usually iirc

[thin juniper]

I bought so much distilled spirits from one location they no longer have any.

[ebon moon]

were you able to sell them all?

[thin juniper]

dalmar to Port-O

[pure field]

you have to know the in game time to know when they gonna refresh

they have a refresh rate shown in the gallog website

[thin juniper]

oh nice I didn't realize it showed that

1300 a min max inventory 80000

[woeful moss]

mining is cool once you get into it. Takes a while though to get all the knicks and knacks

[lime kettle]

I enjoy mining, did some fps mining for my first few days :) almost enough money to rent a prospector this weekend and make the most of the 24 hours :)

[mint rivet]

How much units are in 1 scu?

[regal notch]

Ruck Sacks got it on 1 = 1 , Ships 1 = 100 🤔

[mint rivet]

Time to calculate how much I spent.. Nevermind I forgot how much larenite costs at area 56

I know it used to be 1.78 in 3.8.1 but it's cheaper now.. I think it's 1.25 or 1.58

[pallid temple]

@regal notch Ehh not quite

When it comes to cargo capacities its measured in SCU, centiSCU and microSCU, 100 centiSCU make up 1 SCU, and 1million microSCU make up 1 SCU

But torso armour pieces with storage capacities are measured in Storage Points, where 1 Storage Point is the equivalent of 1 microSCU

@mint rivet

[mint rivet]

You work for Microsoft don't you... All that information and it doesn't answer my question lol

[pallid temple]

When you go to buy a commodity, its measured in centiSCU

As in, the price for a singular unit of a commodity will show the price for one centiSCU

[regal notch]

I wrote it above 1 scu = 100 units 🙃

[pallid temple]

Well not quite

Its a little more complicated than just saying "100" and leaving it at that

[regal notch]

Can be 1000 depend on the size of the unit you are carring etc

it depends on the size of the unit xD

[pallid temple]

No, SCU's don't change in size

Its 100 and that's it

[regal notch]

The items you carry do change size

You can say 100 units contained in 1 cargo box so 120 SCU = 120 cargo boxes with 100 units each inside or 12.000 units .

[pallid temple]

.....

Don't try and tell me what I've already researched

Go back to making your wall of text guides infested with a cringe level of emotes

[regal notch]

Research more cause your answer didnt answer at the question :

You work for Microsoft don't you... All that information and it doesn't answer my question lol

[humble verge]

What is the best mining area now? for prospector anyway?

[mint rivet]

Well I know I had less than 200k I was in the region of 194k but after my 78scu of larenite I had 235k aUEC... It put a smile on my face

[humble verge]

78 in what?

mole?

prospector i think has only 48

mole has 96

i have both but im solo minign right now

Is there a location of a sprreadsheet on ores and locations? etc?

for 3.9

[torpid hearth]

Isn't it supposed to be 1SCU=1000centiSCU=1000000microscu?

Like 10^3 difference for each

Since it's essentially volume

[ornate rock]

centi means 100th
milli would be 1000th

[torpid hearth]

Oh

Yeah sorry I got it wrong

[ornate rock]

SCU are confusing anyway

[regal notch]

^ I totaly agree with Baarn

Go back to making your wall of text guides infested with a cringe level of emotes @pallid temple
Thanx I had to Fix the broken Images , thought I dont see enought emotes in it hahaha maybe I should add more lel

[mint rivet]

I bought larenite at area 65 with my connie, and sold it at area 18 @humble verge

[turbid plinth]

rookie numbers. gotta do some drugs man

[ebon moon]

FYI, prospector has 32 SCU @humble verge Not sure if I'm interjecting incorrectly tho

[turbid plinth]

jk 😄

[karmic cipher]

Can I rent a prospector and put a helix mining head on it or is it stock parts only?

[ebon moon]

You can

just take the ship out, go a ways away, open you ship manager in mobiglas, don't select the ship (it will pop up automatically), then do what you do

[karmic cipher]

Do I need to pull the mining head out before the rental expires to be safe from losing it?

[ebon moon]

yes

I'm stupid and have actually not had a rental where I didn't lose my mining head... so every reantal I'm forking 200k (100 for ship, 100 for head).

[karmic cipher]

Thank you. Managed to make abgood chunk mining in an org mates prospector and was trying to decide if I should save for my own or buy a mining head and rent up to it

Ouch. Is it worth putting that much out or should I just go with the base rental?

[ebon moon]

It's cheaper if you're going to use it

30k/day instead of 40k

And you don't have to worry about the mining head or taking a day off

[kind yoke]

are there a refinery at A18?

[woeful gazelle]

yes. it's in the building at ArcCorp Plaza with the elevators inside

[kind yoke]

found it thx

[devout sable]

whats a good route to run?

[woeful gazelle]

have you tried "around the block"? 😅

[ebon moon]

You talking cargo or mining?

@devout sable

[devout sable]

cargo

[ebon moon]

no route is good

[devout sable]

lmao

[ebon moon]

seriously, don't try

[devout sable]

why

[ebon moon]

You're gonna get upset when you lose it all to 30k

[errant lark]

true that

i tried to run cargo again two days ago bc i was tired of mining

bad idea

lost 2 mil in a few hours

[gloomy pagoda]

Is there a place to sell WiDoW faster than GH?

[errant lark]

no vice is also not worth it

takes too long to sell

[gloomy pagoda]

I f...d up a bit it seems

got 1900units xD

[errant lark]

actually thats kinda everything at the moment, they really messed up how supply works at station or outposts

another reason cargo sucks ass

[gloomy pagoda]

oh well

there go my credits^^

could i keep them stored in my ship until they fix this?

[ebon moon]

@gloomy pagoda you could try, but I'm not sure it'll work

[gloomy pagoda]

I will try. but also sell 30units from time to time 😛

[ebon moon]

If you keep it located at the place you want to sell

it'll store there (maybe) and you can sell w/o risk

whenever you go there

[elfin flame]

Is buying a mole to solo mine on planets completely not worth it? Itd like to just have more capacity but I heard because you have to hover the fuel just drains way too fast to be worth it..
Also not a huge fan of asteroid mining

[ebon moon]

Not worth

The more cargo doesn't matter when it takes you 2x as long to mine a node

[lime kettle]

are prices for minerals static,

?.

[ebon moon]

I believe so, yes... or static enough

[pure field]

anyone has a mole and needs crew?

[drifting flower]

apparently when a rented ship gets duplicated my mining head gets stuck on the one i can't use. I've tried removing and replacing the head on the one i can use but when i take it off it still says it's in use and it disappears in the PU. I just lost both a helix and an impact laser.

[novel nacelle]

Bummer Beryl !
😦

[tribal goblet]

I've had to jump between PU and the hangers to remove a duplicated mining head.

PITA but i got my helix back

[novel nacelle]

YEA ! Good job JM-Moses

[stuck shale]

Hey guys! What is the best location to mine with argo mole ? i just bought helix heads wanna make some money with friend.

[latent pasture]

sever hopped 5 times, went to 15 different places

15 different places

on every server

not a single one of em has a location I can buy cargo from

not a single one

on any of the servers

[ebon moon]

@latent pasture that's probably for the best... or you'll lose everythign to 30k.

@drifting flower Try what Jedimaster did. Also, when you get on your ship and fly it out a ways. Then ship manager, it should autoselect prospector (don't select it manually). Then, it will say one in use, yeah? Click on the one in use and then click the redbox(?) I think. Or click the head, it should allow you to equip to your current ship.

Other than that, you'll probably just have to wait it out.

[drifting flower]

i already do the flying out to change the laser. that's how noticed both of them were gone.

i don't even really understand what jedi even did. Just jump back and forth from the PU to hangar until the laser head says 0 in use 1 available?

[dusk void]

Good list from A4

[sage dragon]

👍

[kind yoke]

i hope

bmm will not see a price hike 😫

[sage dragon]

it will, unless it will be shrunk to like half size lmao

[tribal goblet]

@drifting flower I removed mining head from laser in hanger, went to PU, checked it. If it was still on (didn't register me removing it a couple times) I'd remove in PU, retrieve it, store it, check again. Go to hanger to double check, repeat.

I must have jumped between hanger and PU 3 times before it finally saved.

[kind yoke]

😫 > it will, unless it will be shrunk to like half size lmao
@sage dragon

[stuck shale]

Hey guys what is the best place to mine with prospector i just bought helix laserhead willing to make some money.

[rose ginkgo]

So I'm curious, if I let a buddy take my prospector to do some mining can he sell the ore from the cargo yet or is that still not a thing being that it's not his ship?

[tribal goblet]

I belive you'd have to sell for him

[wintry pine]

is there actually any good working trade terminal around PO so I can get a route going? I am having no luck.

[tiny atlas]

where is the best place to go mining?

[wet nova]

whats the easiest trade route

[drifting flower]

Yella and Daymar. those are the single best mining spots.

[latent axle]

Lyria for mining hadanite?

Or is that not a thing anymore ?

[pure field]

If you need an EXPERIENCED MOLE OPERATOR, hire me!

[kind yoke]

Arial any good ?

[vocal pivot]

Anyone know if they've fixed space mining yet?

[woeful gazelle]

space mining works in the belt around Yela, which happens to be my favourite spot to do mining

[proven token]

It gliches sometimes

[vocal prairie]

^ it glitches a lot with agricium and laranite in my experience so far. 10 asteroid runs, cargo dissappeared after extracting repeatedly every single time. 30 pct agr cargo as I'm extracting the next rock it dropped to 0 pct. Twice in a row on the same run. After that I grabbed the quantanium and left.

While the rocks look enticing, completely wasting your time isnt worth it.

[proven token]

Yea that was my experience

Might be due to server instability

[ebon moon]

Ah, damn... so that's what happened. I had around 60% cargo of Quantainium from the belt... get to PO and I made 57k. Was like, wtf? Must of last it on the way.

Also, a little secret I've found recently. Try mining on the Microtech planet... You use more hydrogen... but I've found almost nothing BUT quantainium.

And the sell point is really easy (gotta go to the surface exit).

[woeful moss]

pssst that's my secret 😄

[proven token]

Good tip

[woeful moss]

Nah, fine to share hehe

We're all miners after all

[proven token]

Surface exit is hard to find though no?

[woeful moss]

no

actually really easy

[ebon moon]

Not once you know where it is

[woeful moss]

wait

I took a screenshot once

[ebon moon]

Basically, pretend you're at the spaceport looking at NB... follow the left train

goes straight to the surface exit building

[woeful moss]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/572706150286622720/718087909726486608/New_Babbage_secret_entrance.png

hope it helps

[proven token]

Ah thanks

Refinery easily reached in there?

[woeful moss]

yeah just take down elevator

and from there it's maybe 300m or so

[proven token]

Nice

[woeful moss]

to mt planetary services or so

[proven token]

👍

[ebon moon]

The only thing about mining in mircrotech, you lose a lot more fuel than you do on moons.

And for me, it's really laggy (but I have a shit pc)

[proven token]

Because of the wind probably

[woeful moss]

can always land to mine too

[proven token]

Well they are eventually putting in that ground miner

Could be cool to have places you are forced to park and drive to

Imo

[woeful moss]

yeah I thought about that today 😄 is there any info on that ground miner?

[ebon moon]

@woeful moss you say that... someone said I could go gimbal mode, but I've never been able to get it to work

[woeful moss]

press r

that switches through the modes

@ebon moon

[proven token]

I guess it is a greycat buggy

With a mining arm on it

Probably good at mining hand minables?

[woeful moss]

yeah that might be possible

[proven token]

I want that spider-miner to go on sale, i'd throw some cash at that for sure

[woeful moss]

the orion?

[proven token]

Naa

https://starcitizen.tools/Cydnus

[woeful moss]

haha that looks cool

[tribal goblet]

@proven token Thats not avalible yet

looks good tho

[ebon moon]

@woeful moss I mean, I know how to gimbal mode... just it doesn't gimbal... the head doesn't operate separately from the ship

[woeful moss]

that' weird... works fine for me

[ebon moon]

Yeah, I dunno, everytime I have it in gimbal mode, it just moves like it always did... ship and all

[woeful moss]

only other thing I can think of is that you changed the mouse mode

Mouse mode

vjoy and relative

[ebon moon]

I don't even know what the hell mouse mode is

I always play on a mouse

[woeful moss]

check flight options but other than that I have no idea why it doesn't work for you. i can cycle through three modes with the r key and one of them is free gimbal. I wonder what that bug is

[ebon moon]

Mine only has 2 cycles of R

I don't get the 2 big dotted lines

I get like 1 smaller one

[woeful moss]

If I take out the laser I can press r three times, if I press once nothing happens, if i press again the center dot aiming thing gets loose and I can move it. visually nothing changes besides that I can move that aiming thing

and that is when my mining-laser is out

[tribal goblet]

Anyone know a hotkey for mining consumables?

[woeful moss]

alt+ 1-3

[pure field]

If you need an EXPERIENCED MOLE OPERATOR, hire me!

[proven token]

I'll hire you once we get that accounting app in Pooh

[torpid hearth]

#metoo

[pure field]

were looking for 1 more in our mole

[ebon moon]

#metoo

[gloomy crystal]

Whats a reasonable mining take split with your mole crew?

[ebon moon]

even... but you should discuss before hand.

[gloomy crystal]

Seems odd that it woudl be even given one person has all of the expenses

Basically what im trying to work out is whether to trade my mole in and get a prospector. Ive been splitting evenly but just spent my in game life savings on 3 x Helix II and my mining income is actually a lot lower than solo mining with the prospector. I figured I was doing it wrong and the split was meant to be different

[hoary owl]

Anyone want to make a small cargo crew?

[ebon moon]

From what I understand @gloomy crystal You really shouldn't be splurging on your side mines. And also, the only real profit comes from 2 people doing it. If you have 3, you break even. However, either way, I'd wait until we get the "Money trade" app before scrapping your Mole. Because then you can "hire" crew much more easily, and tell them you'll pay them something like 15% each or whatever. You could essentially have a 3 man crew (with you driving) and they get a combined 45%, you get 55%. Or if you're confident in your ability to find good nodes, you could pay them by the hour. (maybe 40k-50k per hour or something each). Honestly, I like to solo mine since the likelihood of finding a good crew that wants to dedicate to mining (during alpha), knows what they're doing, and will accept a rate that is less than what they could be get doing box missions, is not very likely.

[gloomy crystal]

That was worth the wait, thanks

I figure the mole will really come in to its own when the pods can be released and another ship can cargo them

There's no way to sell mining heads right? lol

Or maybe AI crew

Do you solo in the mole?

[ebon moon]

No way to sell mining heads (yet). You might get some AI crew, but I don't think AI mining will be balanced... either too shit or too good. All these things will get better over time. You might even be able to request someone (or AI) to come pick up your cargo and deliver it to a holding bay or something in the future. But yeah, def will be better when another ship can cargo them. Soloing in a mole is a bad idea. significantly slower with less profit/time. Just going from Drivers to mid mining head, then repositioning (or escaping if you fuck up), is just too time consuming.

[gloomy crystal]

Hmmm ok, well thanks a lot. Still unsure whether I shoudl trade in the mole or not, if I don't I have to rent a prospector, hmm

[pastel frost]

Mole is better than prospector solo... just search for quantanium clusters... the increased range on size 2 mining heads., if u position good u can break afew astroids that r close together before having to move back to pilot seat too...

In many ways its just better for solo than prospector

[ebon moon]

In almost all ways it's not tho. There is little benefit (except less trips back to the port) that a mole gives. You can have full control of your ship, break the same type of nodes, etc with a prospector. And considering that even if you find 3 nicely packed nodes of quant next to each other, you're still gonna have to go back quickly anyway (or blow your ship), there is no inherent benefit to the mole. It's only better if you have 2 people.

And even then, as it stands now, you're boned for staying out too long because of 30ks. My recommendation (you'll have to get verification, cuz I haven't melted anything yet) is to melt the mole (for now), and buy the prospector. It will also leave you some $$ left over to buy something else in the meantime that you might want. Then, in the future, when the mole is the obvious choice, to buy it back (this is the part where you want verification) in the future. I believe, melted ships can be bought back anytime (there is a cooldown window) even if the ship isn't currently on sale.

[gloomy crystal]

Yeah i think I'm going that way, just getting in some time on the loaner Hornet before i do. Definitely think prospector is better solo and i've given both a good go.

[pastel frost]

Main reason is wheb you find quantanium clusters... you can bring back 3x the amount of credits... i dont solo with prospector anymore because its just too sad finding large clusters and leaving so many rocks behind to be lost

[gloomy crystal]

I don't think ive ever found a cluster big enough to fill a mole

Suppose it depends hwo picky you are

[ebon moon]

Yeah, you could spend over an hour looking for a cluster to fill up a mole, but that's not as good as how many full load trips you can get on your prospector in the same amount of time. And even with 3 huge nodes (that you magically find), you have a limited time after sucking in the first one before boom. So, what you get from those nodes is it. It's still not likely to fill up a mole.

Like, even if you find 3 7k mass nodes together with 33% each, you're only bringing back 70 scu (out of 96). <--- BEST case scenario

[naive maple]

I would just be happy to find it! LOL... spent that 2.1 million aUEC on the Prospector and tired of scanning whole moons after 1 week... still never found any 5% Quantanium... had one run for $160k... the rest were around $60k of mostly Agricium and Laranite

But, hey!... I’m back up to 1.9 million from Smuggling again! 😉

With a lil dabbling in E’tam 12 SCU at a time hahaha

Currently I’m torn between buying a Warden v Sabre... or a Caterpillar v MAX ... I know the right thing is to just keep saving for the Caterpillar só I can buy all the other 3 with the money earned from the Caterpillar

[ebon moon]

Lord, I'd def check Yela... or my new favorite Microtech... I find a lot of quantainium there. And it's convenient cuz you can sell it at NB easy using the surface exit entrance

Except atm, cargo is fucked

[naive maple]

Lord, I'd def check Yela... or my new favorite Microtech... I find a lot of quantainium there. And it's convenient cuz you can sell it at NB easy using the surface exit entrance
@ebon moon oh wow!... ok will do!

[ebon moon]

But with a sabre or warden, you'll be able to do claimjumpers at 10k each

[naive maple]

Those claimjumpers are jinx’s for me!

During Invictus, as a revenge, I took the Claimjumper with a Tali,... figuring “How you like me now?!”... stupid missles/torpedoes wouldn’t hit... ran out of ammo LOL

[ebon moon]

You could have got in the turrets of the tali to attempt it...I don't know what tali shields are like tho. As an org sometime, we try and go out and do claimjumpers, but I don' tknow if it's just incompetence or bugs, but we never seem to actually finish one.

[naive maple]

I’m so torn between buying a Warden v Sabre... or a Caterpillar v MAX ...

I know the right thing is to just keep saving for the Caterpillar so I can buy ALL the others with the money earned from the Caterpillar, which'll take 2 weeks at most!... but that still leaves me grinding another 3 million for the next month! Maybe i should try my Prospector again?... any other suggestions to get my current 1.9 mil balance to better serve me?

[tribal goblet]

Idk im making like 200k an hour in a mole, sometimes more

gonna have enough for a cat in no time

[frosty turtle]

Are there any delivery contracts that offer more than 15k?

[naive maple]

Are there any delivery contracts that offer more than 15k?
@frosty turtle no

Idk im making like 200k an hour in a mole, sometimes more
@tribal goblet I already gave CIG cash money in 2013... no more dollars from me

[tribal goblet]

thats with 2 people

a prospector could easily do the same

rented with helix

[naive maple]

where are you mining Jedi?... i take it you're finding Quantanium?

[tribal goblet]

Yeah, usually

grab some good ore, top off with quantanium usually

done 1/2 full runs for 150k if the server feels a bit iffy

[naive maple]

I own a Prospector (2.1 million aUEC... first in-game ship purchased), and it has the Helix I equipped... just can't find anything worth mining!

[tribal goblet]

Yela

belt is good, surface is good

took some practice to get scanning down

[naive maple]

started at Yela... can't see shit with the scans colors matching background snow... moved to Daymar... nothing there

[tribal goblet]

you gonna be on later?

probably gonna be mining in an hour or so

[naive maple]

yep... 3 more hours til I'm "not working" LOL

[ebon moon]

Go to the night side of yela, might be better for you, haha. Also, don't go more than 100km/s... it was a mistake I was making until I think hyperbole mentioned it or someting

[tribal goblet]

i go like 2-300 seems fine

m/s, not km/s

[ebon moon]

You'll miss more pings that way...

m/s

[tribal goblet]

Nah

[ebon moon]

I dunno what they use

[tribal goblet]

km/s seems unrealistic

[naive maple]

oh yeah, Hyperbole is who taughtb me about belt mining and spamming scanner... smart cat that one!

[ebon moon]

I tell people about scanner spamming too

also about how it's different in teh belt than on land

[naive maple]

might have been you Moldy!,,, i get ALOT of my info here on Discord... i mean prolly too much! like an unfair amount! LOL

[tribal goblet]

Scanner on mole is supposedly better. the 100m/s thing could be true for prospect

[ebon moon]

But I often think people lose track of time when they're mining and think that a 200k load that took them 2 hours is 200k/hr. I can even accuse myself of doing it. Youre either gonna be spending hours to look for that perfect quantanium spot (as I mentioned earlier today) or youre going to do what most do and grab other high level stuff and hopefully cap with quantanium.

I heard mole scanner was worse

[tribal goblet]

Nah i time it

clock on 2nd screen

Mole scanner goes further

[naive maple]

My occupation requires a great deal of research, and thereby those of us attracted to the aqcuisition and collection of knowledge are drawn to this profession... which means we end up researching the shit out of everything, just by nature! LOL

Mole scanner goes farther

10k range on the prospector... widest beam

[ebon moon]

Because even if you find 3 nodes 33% on 7k mass, that's 70 scu out of 96... Youre not gonna have time to really grab much else. And finding that best case scenario of 3 7k mass nodes with 33% is either extreme luck or takes a long time of not doing shit. I solely mine and I've found 6 nodes all with 1-5%... never anything over 30%.

So, yes, it's possible to make 200k or something crazy/hr like once a week. not avg

[naive maple]

i've never found better than 3% node of Quantanium

[tribal goblet]

200k is normal for me, and I generally dont even spend an hour a run

[ebon moon]

I don't recall finding anything higher than 20 ish I believe...

[worldly trout]

quant is such a pain

[ebon moon]

It'll be nice when we have a cargo runner

[worldly trout]

I've found 10% before and it takes so much time to get out out of the dang rock, with that tiny green window

[ebon moon]

Like, someone mining it and either a starfarer near us or someone dedicated to hauling our precious cargo

I recommend bringing some optimum

doubles the little green window, has 5 charges... only a few kauec

[tribal goblet]

3k for 5 charges

it's worth

[ebon moon]

100% worth

[naive maple]

oh the cracking open a rock I LOVE THAT... i can't stand looking for the dam rock

[ebon moon]

It saves you when you accidently overshoot just a bit too and don't want to get any overcharge.

[tribal goblet]

I run those on my helix, and the -40% stability on my hofsteid

[ebon moon]

I grab rime for when I really fuck shit up too

It's your oh shit button

[tribal goblet]

i never use rime

[ebon moon]

I used it once

[tribal goblet]

patience and practice friend

[ebon moon]

Then I lost my consumables on a 30k and didn't buy rime again

but it can save your ass

[naive maple]

@tribal goblet ya know what Jedi, you fly and I'll mine... I'm down to try the Mole... add me (same name in game)

[tribal goblet]

Will do

[ebon moon]

Then lordwolf can confirm the 200k/hr 🙂

[tribal goblet]

Probably have a few hours before my usual miner logs in 😛

We'll see about that Moldy, might take him some practice mining xD

[naive maple]

I got a couple more calls to make... I'll log in in 15 minutes

[tribal goblet]

wont be on for another 45-60mins

[naive maple]

Then lordwolf can confirm the 200k/hr 🙂
@ebon moon oh you KNOW I'll be marking locations on a map! hahaha

[tribal goblet]

locations are random 😉

[ebon moon]

Like, I can see people say 100-120k/hr... 100%. It's possible if you nose to the grindstone and picky, you can do it for sure. 200k just seems a little unbelievable to me. However, it is 2 men and a mole, so I expect that to be slightly better than prospector mining.

[naive maple]

We'll see about that Moldy, might take him some practice mining xD
@tribal goblet you don't gotta worry about that... I can mine the shit outta anything!... plenty of fun in my Helix I equipped Prospector... its the rock hunting i cant stand

[tribal goblet]

hmm ok

we'll see how quick you can break 7k's

[ebon moon]

Sounds like a good bomo

combo*

I expect a full report on my desk in the morning

Carry on

o7

[tribal goblet]

🤣

[ebon moon]

For real tho, bed time for me... tyl

ttyl

w/e

[naive maple]

💯

If nothing else, i hope to obtain an education on scanning in the processs!

[wanton flume]

@oblique crown Nice job bruv makes me leave mid game to join his dumb cargo runs then bounces and unfriends me lmao trash

Wasting my time bro

[oblique crown]

I tried to join on you and it removed friend. But you stepped away cause your mother was calling you from the other room.

[wanton flume]

Well shit lol

[oblique crown]

I also offered you 50% for those titanium runs. Dont think you can get a better deal

[wanton flume]

all you had to do was wait my dude

i asked for 25%

[oblique crown]

now who is wasting whose time

[wanton flume]

Still left when you couldve stayed my dude

[oblique crown]

https://tenor.com/view/byefelicia-gif-5108216

[wanton flume]

Cool story bro

that moment you have 2mil and just wanted to ride along for the money lol

Salty much?

[tribal goblet]

🤦‍♂️

@naive maple still around

[wanton flume]

@oblique crown I make $35 welding aluminum also Im home on vacation so come at me bruv mans is trash with his trash Uec

[oblique crown]

I will admit that the Southpark GIF was a bit over the top.

[tribal goblet]

You ladies wanna take this to DMs?

This is sad

[oblique crown]

what is bruv?

[tribal goblet]

british wording for bro.

[pallid temple]

Well, the british slang idiom

[winged minnow]

Which is better, Helix I or Helix II?

[pallid temple]

Nothing

Its just a size difference

[tribal goblet]

IIRC helix 2 has slightly longer range, but only goes on mole

[pallid temple]

Helix 1 is a s1, Helix 2 is a s2

[winged minnow]

ah okay so prospector only takes helix 1?

[pallid temple]

Yes

[tribal goblet]

correct.

[winged minnow]

thank you

[wanton flume]

@oblique crown i know i jumped the gun on gettin on your case my appologies bro

[oblique crown]

No worries

[coral drum]

i think he means 'bruv'

[tribal goblet]

@copper fern

[high hatch]

@ebon moon Do you get 100k/hr runs with prospector minimum?

I can't seem to breach the 86k wall per haul, with 86k being the max you can get with 100% agricium

But I find almost nothing but agricium or quantainium

[ebon moon]

@high hatch Been doing some mining on Microtech recently... you can find big nodes of quant and return them in like 10-20mins for about 50k. But even before that... when I'd go to yela (not the belt, I hate belt mining), I'd average about 50k a haul, but the hauls would only take about 30 mins... so yeah, I think 100k on average for me if I'm nose to the grindstone is a fair assessment.

[high hatch]

I see

[ebon moon]

And when I say big nodes on Micro, I'm talking like 2 nodes next to each othe for like 10% each... you can get them both, and head back fora quick 50k

[high hatch]

I haven't timed it, but I'm pretty sure it takes me like an hour or a tiny bit more for a haul, and it'll end up at about 86k max

[ebon moon]

I've had a haul that was about 160k before iirc. It just depends on luck and timing. Like, if you find some agricium (still decent money), then your last node you find like 5% 7k mass quant, boom. For me the goal is not to waste time. If I'm at 5% left... I'm just gonna grab whatever is around to cap up and take off. For example, if I got a agricium that takes me to 95%, but there was some beryl too. I'll just grab the beryl and return. If I'm at 10% left to top off, I'll look for quant (any %).

[worldly trout]

I just hit my personal best: 110k

[oblique crown]

5 runs in about 1 hour 45 min

Total 383,532

Going to try mole mining for that time and do some comparisons.

[vocal pivot]

I spent like an hour last night on Microtech looking for things to mine, found like 20 rocks, only one had anything valuable at all. Any tips for where to look? I was in the mountains near New Babbage

Also the prospector can barely lift off the ground there unless you're in VTOL mode, at which point it can't stop. So there's that.

[proven token]

yela in crusader is good

Also prospector has some serious engine issues yea

its like they designed it to be unfun to fly

constantly switching VTOL on and off is annoying

[worldly trout]

ok, I've decided: that chin on the super hornet is gross

[desert terrace]

call me crazy i never vtol in prospector

[sage dragon]

u crazy

[vocal prairie]

Replaced power plant and cooler in the Spector. Have had no power issues since on Micro or surrounding moons. That was pre patch. I'll check again tomorrow.

[vocal pivot]

Interesting, did you overclock the thrusters? Or just a more powerful plant and better coolers?

Actually, what did you swap the cooler to, there's only one cooler with a higher dissipation rate

[woeful gazelle]

I've never had power plant or cooler issues in the Prospector but I'm using all stock parts except for the Helix and a Burst quantum drive

[vocal pivot]

I haven't either, just overheating thrusters and generally bad ability to speed up and slow down

[woeful gazelle]

and yes, I do overclock my laser

but better coolers won't help with overheating thrusters

components can only take in so much cooling at once

the bottleneck is the component itself, not the cooler

[vocal pivot]

Yeah, thus I was wondering why replacing the powerplant and cooler would help the thruster issues

[woeful gazelle]

if you actually have cooling issues, all components will overheat at once

[ebon moon]

@oblique crown Nobody debates that cargo is better or not. Cargo is typically better. Until you get 30k'd.

@desert terrace you crazy

Replacing power and cooling won't do anything. You will always burn thrusters if you drive like a maniac. I OC ping, shields and laser in prospector, NEVER had an issue with power.

[woeful gazelle]

Cargo is typically better.
I tend to disagree

[ebon moon]

To what and to whom?

[woeful gazelle]

I currently have an average of 170k per hour in a Prospector from mining in the Yela belt and that's with crashes and everything calculated in

if you get a single 30k with cargo, it will tank your average per hour so much that mining is just much more profitable

and I've had evenings where my average per hour was between 350 and 400k

[frosty turtle]

i take it mining is the gameplay with the most income?

since cargo hauling and trading is broken

[woeful gazelle]

imho yes

[ebon moon]

@frosty turtle Yes. Montis wants to disagree, but I don't believe anyone that tries to say they made 350k-400k/hr. Because, in a fully quantanium prospector... 100% quant.... the max you can make (if my math is correct) is 280k.

Someone see if my math is right... Prospector is 32 SCU or 3200 units. 3200 x 88 (price of quant) is $281,600. The next closest mineral is Bexalite at just under half. So let's assume a full load of Bexalite x2 (for the really lucky). that's 3200 x40 x2 = $256,000.

I've had a great run where I've done a great run of quant before after filling up on other shit and I think I capped at 180k. People that say they make more than 200k or so per hour mining either aren't taking in their travel times correctly, or are just blatantly trying to mislead.

Edit: "*" was being weird

[woeful gazelle]

I start timing when I spawn the ship and stop timing when I sell the cargo

I have a list of all my recorded runs here if you're interested:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BdWd1pui75WVU8BDMGFg-UemhipyKpPB1RgdVC21Bxg/edit?usp=sharing

[frosty turtle]

i've earned 1m from pve bounties, and from what I gather there isnt any kind of contract that offers a lot more than pve bounties. So Im considering changing to a different 'profession'

[woeful gazelle]

mining is great. you need about 2.2 mil to get you started and then you have everything you need for a long time (unless the game bugs out and you lose your mining head for some reason or other)

[frosty turtle]

im considering buying a prospector

[woeful gazelle]

ECN alerts around hurston are probably the most profitable (non-criminal) way to earn money right now with a fighter type ship

[frosty turtle]

not really, pve bounties offer more and with only one enemy to face

[woeful gazelle]

but you only get around 2.5k to 4.5k or not?

ECN is 10k

and it's 1d3 ships between buccaneers and andromedas

sometimes only one buccaneer, sometimes 3 andromedas but most of the time anything in between

[ebon moon]

Alright Montis, so I used your sheet to calculate your $$/hr. For all the runs you've recorded, your avg/hr is 160k.

And that's assuming some of that time isn't inflated/deflated

[woeful gazelle]

you know I did that math for you already on the bottom? 🙂

although of course the uec/hour increased after the introduction of Quantainium

[ebon moon]

I'm only looking at 3.9.1 cuz that's all that's relative

[neat vault]

It’s ring

Rng

[ebon moon]

But thank you for that doc, I'm stealing it 🙂

[woeful gazelle]

you're welcome 🙂

[ebon moon]

I just have to change all these , to . now tho

[woeful gazelle]

try this

it should automatically convert the sheet

[ebon moon]

I really have only worked in excel, I hate google sheets and the way it does formulas

[woeful gazelle]

ah ok

gimme a sec I'll change it so you can copy it

[ebon moon]

it's all good

I'm d/l it to excel rn

[woeful gazelle]

changed to EN formats

there's also some bugs going around with selling quantainium where your cargo doesn't empty after the first time so you can sell again. so effectively my average / hour is actually a bit higher than in the spreadsheet

[ebon moon]

Yeah, I've had that bug happen before

[woeful gazelle]

on the other hand there's the other bug where you lose part of your cargo, which is also very annoying

and the third bug with quantainium is that sometimes you have a much higher percentage than you actually picked up

[ebon moon]

I had a 60% quant run where 1/2 of my quant got lost on the way back

[woeful gazelle]

I'd say it all somewhat evens out in the end

[ebon moon]

are you "0" runs due to 30k?

[woeful gazelle]

yes

so you basically have 2 types of bug working for you and 2 types of bugs against you 😅

[woeful gazelle]

I've added a (WIP) Miner's Guide tab to my spreadsheet

[high hatch]

Damn your hauls with yela belt quant mining are huge

bruh

[woeful gazelle]

it is imho the most efficient way to get UEC atm

[proven token]

Everytime ive been to yela's belt i get despawning ore

Yela's surface has worked decent enough though

[woeful gazelle]

I've never - not a single time - had ore despawn on me in the belt

and I've also not a single time found Quantainium on Yela's surface although I've only spent like 3 hours on it since Quantainium was introduced

[pastel frost]

Anyone else been having quantanium vanishing from ships? Mine loads go to sell and its not there

[woeful gazelle]

not at all or a reduced amount?

[pastel frost]

Well went from an expected atleast 30% of moles capacity should of been pure quantanium... broke and ate multi quantanium rocks... ended up with 0.3%

[woeful gazelle]

yeah unfortunately that is a bug that happens

[pastel frost]

Its happened afew timea

Yea suuucks

[woeful gazelle]

there's an opposite bug though where you get much more than you should have

[pastel frost]

Spend hours searching... if a 30k doesnt get u this seems to

[woeful gazelle]

my "workaround" is only mining Quantanium and picking up high percentage rocks first

although that probably sucks with a Mole

[pastel frost]

I waa onlying mining 50% quantanoum and above extractable bits.. left the rest

Nah i got 400k from a cluster the other day solo like that 😀

Thought i had like atleast 200k in the mole last run... got back and it was 17k... must have a hole in the cargo holds 😑

This is a vanishing cargo hold run

What it should of been like 😡😡

[woeful gazelle]

There's a bug with "vanishing" cargo when you mine quantainium. You'll just not be full when returning to base even though it said 100% while being out.

Doesn't always happen, but often enough.

9 out of 12 times for me during the current patch

[gloomy crystal]

Whoever gave me the advice to take the mole to yela asteroids yesterday, thanks, made the mole worth doing!

[woeful gazelle]

might've been me, I often recommend the Yela belt 😅

[somber barn]

is it possible to get into mining even without any of the industrial ships ?

[proven token]

You can hand mind by going to an investigation mission

Use a multitool with mining bit attachment equiped

Mine the gems in the cave

[woeful gazelle]

there's also the possibility of renting a Prospector but the base mining laser on it is rather shit

[somber barn]

can you not edit loadouts of rented ships ?

[proven token]

Idk why the stock prospector is sooo bad.

Same with the stock mole lasers

Terrible

[woeful gazelle]

you can, but the (kinda) must-have laser costs 108k and there's a decent chance you'll lose it on a rental

[somber barn]

so you cant have gear in like hangag as a backup so if i for example were to install the improved one over to a rental and then take it off before rent expires

?

[woeful gazelle]

that might be a possibility but no guarantees from me there ^^

[somber barn]

ah okay

fair

[woeful gazelle]

I've lost 2 helix lasers already without having any rental, just so you know 🙂

the rental just increases the chance of losing it by so much more

[proven token]

The helix laser is almost needed for the good ores

Wierd how the s1 and s2 helix are the same stat wise

[woeful gazelle]

S2 has longer range

[proven token]

You think it would be stronger

Especially the default s1 lasers

S2*

[woeful gazelle]

If you make it too strong, it might be harder to handle when it gets fickle.

[proven token]

Does that mean the S9 laser or whatever the orion has will "just have more range"?

[woeful gazelle]

I mean you could make it more powerful and increase the other bonuses too so the instability etc gets reduced as well ... Maybe sometime in the future

[proven token]

Just wierd is all

[woeful gazelle]

I mean we're still in beta alpha, I expect there to be some sort of rebalance at some point

[pallid temple]

....We're not even in beta

[woeful gazelle]

lol what, I meant to write alpha 😅

multitasking isn't my strong suit

[woeful moss]

How do you guys travel to yela asteroid belt? Maybe I'm doing it wrong and that's why I only find copper there 😄

[woeful gazelle]

I've written a short text on that in my spreadsheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BdWd1pui75WVU8BDMGFg-UemhipyKpPB1RgdVC21Bxg/edit#gid=1788202246)

**Getting into the Yela belt quickly from Port Olisar **

• Turn on your ship / engines at P.O. and lift off, turning towards the pointy-er end of the station which always points towards Yela
• Wait for the nice lady to tell you "Systems On" (or whatever she says)
• Press B to spool and calibrate to Yela without using the star map
• Initiate Quantum Drive by holding B
• After you've arrived, spool again and look for an Orbital Marker (OM-#) to the left/top of you
• Jump to it, then spool again and calibrate towards Crusader or the Comm-Array next to it
• Initiate the jump and count to 5, then cancel the jump by holding B again or using I to kill the engines
• You should now be in the middle of the belt
• If you continue in the general direction of Crusader, you should be able to very quickly jump back to Port Olisar (just left below the planet) after your cargo is full

[woeful moss]

Thx

[proven token]

Nice tip. I wish we could set our own bookmarks

[woeful moss]

maybe someday

[woeful gazelle]

yeah, whenever you find that motherload of Q and your cargo is already 70% full T_T

that's why I stopped mining other stuff 😅

and because of the cargo bug

[vocal prairie]

but better coolers won't help with overheating thrusters
@woeful gazelle
I disagree. In stock Cutty black thrusters were overheating from standstill to full boost around 342. With Upgraded power plant and coolers it would reach around 560 before overheating and dissipate much quicker. Same planet, same altitude. Hence why I upgraded coolers on the Spector for that extra little bit, it allows me to maneuver and slow or speed up as I please without getting an overheating warning. At least in my experience.

[woeful gazelle]

I've never done extensive testing tbh but that's how one of the devs explained it

there might be some other factors in there too like how quickly the coolers respond

[vocal prairie]

Additionally, the power plant would have fluctuations on Microtech and Calliope every now and then depending on the weather and ship would shut down mid mining, so I upgraded the power plant for that reason.

I think it has more to do with the coolers, BUT if power is shutting down as mining, that would typically indicate you need a better plant.

Microtech and surrounding moons were the only place I experienced the issue, but again that was pre 3.9.1 so I don't know what has changed since then.

[woeful gazelle]

hm. rather odd. I'd expect the shutting down to be an issue of overheating because that's what also happens if you turn off the coolers

but then you have all "systems overheating" announcements

[vocal prairie]

Yep, but there was no systems overheating indicator.

It just lacked the power to maintain at the time before upgrading.

[woeful gazelle]

also it's odd that it would only happen on MT and Calliope

then again I usually mine while being stationary, it might have something to do with winds and your thrusters needing to counteract it

[vocal prairie]

but you only get around 2.5k to 4.5k or not?
@woeful gazelle
Also, good info to pass along Personal Tab > Authorized Execution Warrants are 9k, 10.5k, and 12k (on rare occasions 20k) around Hurston. Personal Tab > future ghost missions are also 12k and 20k. All around Hurston and can be ran in conjunction with ECN alerts and sometimes double stack.

Just be aware you will face a Warden on occasion so target the engines if you want a chance of beating it in a sabre or less.

[woeful gazelle]

I don't do much missions atm and try to steer clear of any illegal ones. have so far managed to stay out of prison 😅

[vocal prairie]

Those are all "legal" in the sense that you dont get a CS.

[woeful gazelle]

thanks for the info. might be good for when I feel a bit more shooty again 😅

[vocal prairie]

Definitely something that's profitable to do to take a break from mining or cargo!

[woeful gazelle]

cargo is way too risky for my tastes atm

[woeful moss]

anyone know a workaround for making the planetary terminals recognize the ship for cargo?

hickes on cellin is royally f'ed

[feral shell]

sry wrong thread

[trail prism]

Anyone have a workaround for hurston I come out of qt and just explode or it qts me into the water and I explode
Lost 2.4 Mil today

[woeful gazelle]

Workaround: don't go to hurston
Or even better: don't do cargo
(sorry for not being particularly helpful 😅 )

[lime kettle]

does anyhone have a god guide on what to mine and what not to mine?

[lime kettle]

TY

[vivid python]

Anyone have any cave finding tips? Basically I got down to 305 total money. Worked my way up to enough to buy a hand miner and a rucksack. And am now almost in the Hundred Thousandair' clurb. But I can't mine on any surface planet I don't think because of temp. I'm finding caves by taking Investigation missions. But I'm not finding much, takes ages to fill my sack, by just taking anything I find, not even just Hadenite, which I think is the best hand mining material.

[lime kettle]

you can taje a quest for missing person

if it mention to look in a cave...

[vivid python]

hats what I mean by the investigation quests, sorry

maybe there are good caves in walking distance from surface mines you can Q to?

[lime kettle]

just take anything you find, all three different

[vivid python]

lol ok. So I'm doing "the right thing"

ok heading in!!!!

[lime kettle]

@proven token does that mean 2.5-20-35% in the extractable rocks? or the original unbroken rocks?

[proven token]

you dont have to follow that

but it says what each ore is worth

use your judgement wether or not yiou want to collect it once it breaks

[lime kettle]

i earned 50k ina n hour yesterday

[proven token]

nice

🙂

[vivid python]

I just had a rock explode in my face and now I'm dead and lost it all

https://tenor.com/view/not-like-this-gif-7283799

[ornate rock]

do rock explosions deal ballistic damage?

wondering if it's smarter to keep the industrial shield on a prospector or if switching to a stealth shield might be beneficial

[woeful gazelle]

well, it helps if you redirect the shields forward

although not quite sure how "deals ballistic damage" would affect it here

my brother once blew up a stone in front of me and while my left and right shields were completely gone, all my components still had 100% health afterwards

[frozen moss]

anyone know the cargo capacity on the merchantman and if i buy it i can use it now or is it still concept

[neat vault]

is concept

[wild canyon]

3kish cargo but will most certainly be changed

[frozen moss]

oh thats a bummer i wish i could use it now, what's the purpose of selling something you can't use? im new at SC and selling something i can't use is a very wild concept to me

[neat vault]

@frozen moss buying it as a concept + warbond is cheaper than when it comes out

you also get caterpillar and defender loaner ships until it comes out

[frozen moss]

oh well thats cool i think i'll buy it now, thanks

[neat vault]

ye I bought it today too

[frozen moss]

nice i just got it, that cat will be nice i been using the freelancer max but now if i 30k im really screwed

[neat vault]

ye it will probably be a year before the merchanman comes out

so the cat is gona be nice

[wintry pine]

trying to determine if it's just me or what... every time I find what I think will be a good trade route on one of the sites (gallog, Kamille) I head down to the buy location and the trade terminal has nothing to sell. Are those sites THAT far off, or am I bugged some way?

[frozen moss]

literally just 30ked getting out of bed when logging on

[naive maple]

literally just 30ked getting out of bed when logging on
@frozen moss congrats!... if I had to get 30k’d ... that’s when I would want it to happen!

[frozen moss]

lol

[tribal goblet]

@wintry pine Those sites base their routes off profit/run. They dont factor in the refresh rates of buy/sell at stations, you have to do that yourself.

[wintry pine]

oh I get that, but I would expect at least something at the kiosk, even after waiting a few minutes due to refresh rate.

it's just blank

I gave up for now. been a long week and don't want the frustration

[woeful gazelle]

another two successful mining runs with 126k and 127k profit 🙂

[opal crow]

trying to run cargo ... what does area 18 TDD mean?

[woeful gazelle]

trade division (something)

it's the building at arccorp plaza that has TDD written on it

[opal crow]

ah okay thanks ... that would be the business/finance district right?

[naive maple]

@tribal goblet hey Bro!... sorry about yesterday, logged into the game, but got tied up working simultaneously

[woeful gazelle]

@opal crow it's the big round place with the globe-y thing in the middle and a bunch of exits in all directions

[kind yoke]

docking delayed 😫

[steady osprey]

delicious.

[ornate rock]

my cargo got bugged yesterday, converted everything that I had loaded into quantainium

didn't take summary screenshot sadly, only realized after hitting sell

[quick blade]

is asteroid field mining still buggy?

[hollow sedge]

ye some rocks still disappear after cracking them if u mean that

[quick blade]

yes thanks

[humble verge]

What is the current best place to mine for the mole agrecium and above/ profit?

really no one in the mining channel knows that? lol

[errant lark]

whens the merchantman supposed to come out

[urban ledge]

Asking the real questions, cause I bought one today lol

[proven token]

Yela surface

Yela belt

I have good luck there and selling at PO

[errant lark]

yea me too

[humble verge]

how do u give money to a someone with a becon

?

[drifting flower]

choose escort and set the amount.

[tribal goblet]

How do i retract a drill on the mole, if no-one is in it.

It's stuck out

[proven token]

You have to be in the seat to do it?

[tribal goblet]

When you get into the seat, it "deploys" and extends out of the ship

I had someone crash, while on the drill, and it wouldnt retract.

[naive maple]

@tribal goblet hey Bro, I’m on your server... wanna mine some rocks?

[tribal goblet]

@naive maple Sure

[naive maple]

I saw u on my radar a second ago

What happened... did you crash? 17k?

16k

[tribal goblet]

30k

idk

couldnt rejoin

[naive maple]

Dude I just had the most awesome “First” so far, we’ll combat wise

Just killed 2x Andromeda’s with my 315p... woot woot! ECN success!

[tribal goblet]

Oooo

[naive maple]

Oh!... and my missiles were bugged!

So that was straight up 2x Scorpions ONLY!

I’m surprised I didn’t run out of ammo!

So, you back in? Mining in a Mole?

@tribal goblet So, you back in? Mining in a Mole?

[tribal goblet]

Yeah different server

waiting at PO for a friend to get here from micro

[naive maple]

K give me one sec... I wanna re-unlock player bounties... gimme5 minutes, I’m feeling confident LOL

Oh yeah!!!

And the bounty unlock... I think I finally got this counter strafing down!

Got any room on your server?... tap F11... you full? Or can I join?

[tribal goblet]

got room

@naive maple

[naive maple]

Dam dude I just killed the 2 Andromeda... ECN, the a Delta Mustang Bounty, then a cutlass with m50’escort pro tem bounty... FINALLY I’m out of ammo!

Ok, lemme go park this beauty of mine, and I’ll join your server for some mining!

OMG all this time I thought I was bad at combat, turns out I just needed gimbal’d

Wow, so this was 2x gimbal’d scorpions and the sabre is 4x gimbal’d scorpions?... oh the hell with the Vanguard! Hahaha... Stealth Sabre here I come!

@tribal goblet where u at... I’ll fly there

On this server and log in close by

[naive maple]

Dude we are all still frozen in here

@tribal goblet a lot of ppl made it to hangars but like me, can’t exit their seats

[tribal goblet]

Yeah i just went to the menu

it'll spawn us back at tressler.

Your server pop is dropping

12/50

[naive maple]

We are all still chatting in here

[tribal goblet]

8/50

cant join

[naive maple]

I’m waiting to hear from Tsunamic if his landing saves his cargo

How many left in this server?

[tribal goblet]

6

[naive maple]

I love testing!!!

Join a new server... I’ll come join u when this crash is over

[tribal goblet]

lol k

still at 6

[naive maple]

Wait back up!!!

Just crashed to the planet

30k

LOL

I thought for. A sec I could save the ship!

You in?... or wanna follow me in?

Joining your server now

[woeful moss]

Guys, it's great you're having so much fun, but can you keep the privat chit chat to DM and just talk about mining and cargo in here

that way new players have it easier finding stuff

[naive maple]

That was the strangest ever 30k

[tribal goblet]

👌

[woeful moss]

Thanks 🙂

[latent pasture]

this chat is so saturated its better for new players just to ask first off

[naive maple]

@woeful moss yeah... no worries...

[latent pasture]

but also I guess keep to topics

[naive maple]

On the flip side to that, it’ll be nice to know if there’s some new advanced notice to a 30k

Crashed

On my way back in

Stay put

Moved to PM

[woeful moss]

Thx guys 🙂

[naive maple]

You know it Brother!!

But seriously that was the strangest 30k EVER

[latent pasture]

https://gallog.co/trading/
this site exists for anyone curious

I use it quite a bit

[odd hinge]

!comoddity scrap

!comodity scrap

[bitter wraith]

Scrap - Selling

New Babbage TDD

1.36 aUEC

HDMS-Perlman

1.36 aUEC

GrimHex

1.47 aUEC

Area18 - TDD

1.47 aUEC

Port Tressler

1.36 aUEC

Lorville - CBD

1.36 aUEC

New Babbage MT Planetary Services

1.36 aUEC

R&R CRU-L5

1.39 aUEC

HDMS-Hahn

1.36 aUEC

R&R HUR-L3

1.44 aUEC

Area18 - IO North Tower

1.62 aUEC

R&R HUR-L5

1.38 aUEC

R&R CRU-L1

1.54 aUEC

R&R CRU-L4

1.36 aUEC

R&R HUR-L4

1.49 aUEC

Baijini Point

1.36 aUEC

Lorville - L19 Admin Office

1.36 aUEC

R&R HUR-L1

1.36 aUEC

R&R ARC-L1

1.45 aUEC

R&R MIC-L1

1.36 aUEC

R&R HUR-L2

1.35 aUEC

Everus Harbor

1.36 aUEC

HDMS-Stanhope

1.39 aUEC

HDMS-Hadley

1.35 aUEC

HDMS-Thedus

1.42 aUEC

Scrap - Buying

Port Olisar

1.85 aUEC

Levski

1.73 aUEC

Reclamation & Disposal Orinth

1.85 aUEC

Brio's Breaker Yard

1.85 aUEC

Samson & Son's Salvage Center

1.85 aUEC

[ebon moon]

https://sc-trading.kamille.ovh/trading/ Also exists

[coral drum]

Is it up to date though?

[ebon moon]

I don't know, because cargo is too much of a gamble atm

[kind yoke]

titanium 😄

[ebon moon]

Fine-ish? You mean they killed all the 30ks?

I have 30k PTSD, you won't see me doing cargo for a long time.. .until the amount of 30k is like 1/day

[coral drum]

i havent had a 30k in a week 🤷‍♂️

[odd hinge]

i currently just use gallog.co for trading

[cold owl]

How much do you guys think is good to start with?

20-30k?

Okay interesting

What do you use?

[odd hinge]

yup that

carrack is also still decent

but anything below that becomes a handicap already

[cold owl]

nice thanks for the info 🙂

[turbid plinth]

for smaller craft, drug runs are the only option to make semi-competitive UEC/hr. I do a run that makes 150k UECish with a Freelancer @ 35% profit margin. so its quite forgiving.

The biggest challenge with running drugs is 1) finding the drug labs, and 2) taking a long time to sell. My run takes about 1 1/2 hours - 2 hours from takeoff to completion.

Is it matching a titanium/laranite cat? Nope. But it a fun pastime that i take ppl on to feel like bad boys. And its good enough to be worth it

[frozen moss]

i just got a cat yesterday and i've done 2 runs with all my money on the line its absolutely terrifying but so much more rewarding the the freelancer max i was using

i tabbed back into sc and i was disconnected lmao

[brave agate]

yay for gambles, bought a load on cru l4, go to retrieve my cat. i can get it in hanger 2. the catch, there is no hangar 2

[woeful gazelle]

you can go to a neighbour hangar and eva over, then call landing services to request take-off

[frozen moss]

just spent the time flying to a personal delivery pick up and 30ked as soon as i got there. i wish this was the main priority like 100% focus on 30ks

[brave agate]

how to i get out the neighbor hangar door?

its kinda big, steel and several feet thick

[woeful gazelle]

hm. I guess you have to go to a pad then

might take a while from there D :

[brave agate]

yeah, all 8 pads are on the exact opposite side of the station

well, it worked, barely. 11% health from head butting the hangar door over and over as it glitched out..

[gray goblet]

When you mine in a party, say in a mole, does the party split the profit from the terminal sale??

[ornate rock]

no, you have to trust the owner to share the profits via beacon magic

[gray goblet]

Also, how do I tell if my mining head is at optimum range from a rock?

Ty baarn

[ornate rock]

I think you have to guesstimate the range, if there's a better way I'd like to know, too

[gray goblet]

Thx

[vale stratus]

is the trading completely broken now?

[ebon cedar]

Looking for some fast trading PO ==> any moon, if anyone got some tips ? Maybe not the best trade route ever, just something to start easily with 5, maybe 10% ?

[primal ether]

buying anything at PO is near impossible because it doesn't refill at an appropriate rate to fill even the smallest of cargo holds

[ebon cedar]

Reverse. I mean any moon ==> PO sry

[humble verge]

does anyone know hot o use this shit site? https://gallog.co/tradeports/olisar/

shit wont work

tried chrome and edge and cant get a route planned

[hollow sedge]

half of it are lies anyway

it will tell you to do stupid things like buying 500 SCUs of stims

[ebon moon]

PO agriculture supplies rate isn't bad... it's just low profit... As far as Moon -> PO, usually you'll go to like a R&R, grab scrap and take to PO.

[turbid plinth]

gallog never lies. you just need to use it more to understand what exactly the info on it means

• it gives the most up to date prices it can. Which is often a couple of days old at best because its crowd sourced. So use it as a ballpark

• the route planner is a bit stupid. it does not take into account store refresh rates. But you can just filter the commodities that are of low supply/demand and it works fine

[ebon moon]

I don't think it lies about prices, it lies about quantity, doesn't it? Same with sc-kamille

[turbid plinth]

i dont think so. the refresh numbers are accurate

people get jebaited by the 'maximum store supply'. The thing is, especially for high traffic goods, you can only rely on the refresh rate. Because players are exceeding its supply regen rate, its never anywhere near the potential maximum

the few goods that don't move, i most often see the store fill to EXACTLY the maximum supply on gallog. like vice

[outer finch]

Does anyone know generally what is the most profit u can make doing cargo runs with a carrack?

[hollow sedge]

the easiest I found was titanium from cellin to PO

~340k to fill up, sells for 405k

10 min trip

problem is you have to land in lorville and travel

[turbid plinth]

can PO sustain cat-supply amounts

[hollow sedge]

well i use carrack

so its 450 SCU instead of 550 SCU

[turbid plinth]

ive had PO bought out on me for diamond many times

[hollow sedge]

never had problems

laranite is usually also easier than agricium

can usually grab 200k worth of laranite and then rest titanium for better profit

if you also remember to save your ICU to the carrack bed after departing from PO

each time

it's fairly resiliant to crashes and random deaths

got killed by carrack ramp twice from like 20 meter distance

but spawn in ICU

vastly superior to caterpillar given the reduction in risk

[ebon moon]

What's the risk reduction?

[turbid plinth]

the ICU

allows you to recover from random deaths. cause you spawn back on your ship

if you want to get next level, i usually rely on the icu ONLY to get back on my ship. deters pirates and saves time

i park my ship floating over the outpost and jump off. then i suicide to get back on

makes it pretty much impossible for stowaways to get on

[hollow sedge]

didn't know you can load cargo while floating

will try that

[hollow sedge]

some guy pirated by carrack by just landing on my ship and shooting the door a couple of time

think I will be a pirate

[primal ether]

lol yea

they can do that

they can't land anywhere or use it for cargo tho so it's not gonna do them much good i think

[hollow sedge]

yea but had 350k in it so

we negoiated a ransome

but server got hit with 30k

so its lost

rather lose it to pirates than 30k though lol

guess on a carrack I can flip it around upside down and suicide into ICU bed

[errant lark]

Have the remotely mentioned when salvage will be implemented?

did see it on the roadmapo

[errant cradle]

something about needing physicalized inventories to make it work

but they're implementing a tier 0 version at some point

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5Xe74XKwrM

18min update on salvage

[proven token]

30ks are the real pirates

[trail prism]

does drugs make the most money

[proven token]

Na, problem is nowhere buys drugs in bulk

[kind yoke]

grim hex

sort of

[trail prism]

i think i'll stick with larry

[kind yoke]

im stuck with titanium

[hollow sedge]

titanium is struggling now

down to diamonds atm

[blissful rain]

What's the best mining consumables to use for mining a rock with quantanranium?

I want to basically increase the green zone

[hollow sedge]

optium

or what its called

costs ~3k

5 charges

wurf

[coral plume]

Anyone know a good trade route

[coral drum]

use this:
https://www.gallog.co/trading/

[ebon cedar]

Can't modify my rented prospector ship parts. Intended ?

[pallid temple]

That's intended

You don't rent a car and then start changing stuff out on it

[ebon cedar]

It was possible before then. old tutos

It has changed ?

[pallid temple]

It was changed with 3.8.2/3.9.0

[ebon cedar]

Tks. Well I hope my helix will be there later for a real owned prospector... should have checked 1st

[tribal goblet]

@ebon cedar try changing it in hanger instead of PU

Just remember to remove it

[ebon cedar]

Ah ! tks for that

Any location reco for a first mining run ? nooblike. Around PO

[woeful gazelle]

Yela is always good

[arctic wyvern]

I'd also recommend daymar, if it's your first mining run I'd avoid Quantaniuim for the time being until your comfortable mining and have upgraded your lasers to Helix 1 or helix 2 lasers

[ebon cedar]

Rgr ! Asteroids belt is also possible atm or still too much buggued ?

[woeful gazelle]

belt around yela is my favourite mining spot

others seem to be bugged though from what other people have said

[ebon cedar]

Ok. Trying rn on Yela. Quite fun

Just struggling on how to check what I've mined so far. Cargo recap

[woeful gazelle]

if you're trying to mine around yela (in the belt) you might want to check out my WIP mining guide
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BdWd1pui75WVU8BDMGFg-UemhipyKpPB1RgdVC21Bxg/edit#gid=1788202246

[pallid temple]

You can't check your current cargo from the ship currently

[woeful gazelle]

you can only check how full you are

[pallid temple]

Although I would desperately love some sort of cargo screen which shows you what you've got

Inside the ship

[ebon cedar]

You can still jettison cargo right ? Or only maybe the dangerous one

[pallid temple]

No you can jettison I believe

Jettisoning cargo gets rid of it all

[woeful gazelle]

only if you have Quantainium loaded and only if it's already past the "yellow alert" phase

[ornate rock]

my light starts randomly blinking at times

I wish you could just jettison without blinkenlights tho

[ebon cedar]

Nice stats wow. very usefull

Some high values, 700k/h. quite cool

[ornate rock]

is there a trick to scanning in the belts?

I think it's easier to look for rocks visually than with the scanner, but that only really works on moons

[woeful gazelle]

see my guide above

[ornate rock]

oh, there is actually text now. :D
thought it was still the spreadsheet of your data collection

[woeful gazelle]

spreadsheets have tabs, you know 😛

[ornate rock]

damn rocket science, always gets me

[ebon cedar]

Amazing work you did...

[pallid temple]

@ornate rock There is a known bug where if you mine volatile cargo, sell it and then go out mining, when you extract cargo, you'll still get the volatile cargo light

[ornate rock]

I had the issue after claiming the ship (and another game session)

[pallid temple]

Interesting

[ornate rock]

but at least ship doesn't seem to blow up when it ticks down

[pallid temple]

Yeah because a ship claim is supposed to "reset" the ship states

[ebon cedar]

It is safe to logout on moon surface (shipbed) ? or better to store on stations

With no cargo oc

[pallid temple]

Generally bed logs are a bit of a hit and miss

You could log back in fine, or you could be thrown into an infinite load

[ornate rock]

bed logout is super bugged, better to just self destruct the ship and claim it before logging off

[woeful gazelle]

or you can respawn at the center of the system 😄

[ornate rock]

it's not just all the bed related bugs, but having a ship in universe also causes a host of issues with reclaiming being impossible etc

[ebon cedar]

Oh yeah, I've experienced it quite a lot already on general gameplay. terrible. So far maybe 3 or 4 no claim/retrieve bug, ending on charac reset despite hours of workaround failing

Exactly what you say most of time. Ship somewhere on a server. Can't do anything after respawn.

Like dying during a FPS mission, ship still landed near it. Your respawn bug, you have to go back menu and lo in another server (if solo) and then.... bug can happens. Ship completely unclaimable

[digital thorn]

If anyone is a little sick of 30Ks, there is a game called Helium Rain that is a pretty nice little space trucking game. It's in the itch.io game bundle that's going to charities (along with 1,500 other games and things) for as low as $5

[chilly narwhal]

looked at the spreadsheet posted above, and it's talking about asteroid mining... but every asteroid I've ever cracked just disappears... is this not happening for some folks?

[woeful gazelle]

where are you mining the asteroids @chilly narwhal ?

I've never had them disappear but heard about it from a lot of other people

[placid bridge]

Just rented my Prospector today, good spots for mining and what am I after?

[supple kelp]

Am I crazy

Still got 120k profit lol

[woeful gazelle]

yes, you're crazy 😛

[supple kelp]

It’s so worth it

😂

Made 500k in like 2 hours lol

[arctic wyvern]

Hello all, Does anybody have any idea how to read the energy trnasfer graph when mining, Ive heard people talking about rocks having a specific spot to fire a miining laser at in order to mine effeciantly?

[left warren]

wait are you just Hauling Agricium?

[ebon cedar]

Made 500k in like 2 hours lol
@supple kelp Until 30k hit you then byebye.

[brave agate]

which moon near microtech is supposed to be the good one fgor mining?

[arctic wyvern]

wouldnt bother with the microtech moons, stay around crusader, Ideally Yala and Daymar

Yela*

[brave agate]

i am already out here and i figured i would take some back with me, covers the gas

[arctic wyvern]

ah right, Calliope is pretty good, but rockas with good percentages can be few and far between

[supple kelp]

@left warren yes, agricium is quite profitable

@ebon cedar I typically do cargo running when the servers are fresh after a 30k

[hollow sedge]

So, Till yesterday I was able to get full stock laranite for my carrack. (Bezdek)

Now I can't. So any other place where I can buy laranite for my carrack?

[chilly narwhal]

@woeful gazelle I've tried Yela, Delamar, and one of the lagrange points... I try it every now and then but so far have collected zero on any attempt

[woeful gazelle]

Delamar has asteroids? nevermind, I dumb

ah, of course, got it confused with Daymar

[wintry pine]

are there any breakable rocks at the lagrange points? Like if I went to MIC L1 would I find anything via scanning?

[woeful gazelle]

I mean there are mining claims there, so I'm guessing there should better be minables 😄

but from what I heard all asteroids apart from the ones in the Yela belt are bugged

[wintry pine]

I like Microtech in general but hate mining there due to the atmosphere on the moons. Way too much wind.

[tame elbow]

but from what I heard all asteroids apart from the ones in the Yela belt are bugged
@woeful gazelle yes. they despawn when fractured

[woeful gazelle]

well, considering I almost exclusively mine in the Yela belt and never had any issues I find it odd that other people report that the asteroids there are also bugged like that

[tame elbow]

I mine Yela's belt a lot too

never had issues there

but if you try to mine at CRU L1 or something then they despawn

[woeful gazelle]

so I'm wondering if there's another point where people try around yela which IS bugged

[ebon cedar]

Just mined this specific areas for 2 hrs. No bugs at all.

And one positive bug on selling. Two more free selling ^^

[pure field]

Anyone who needs a crew for your MOLE??
Hire me and you'll never be disappointed. I have a LOT of MOLE experience.
My services will exceed your expectations!

[ornate rock]

you already failed my expectations by posting in the wrong channel

[pure field]

well as a player who cant afford a MOLE IRL i have to work extra hard don't I?

[ornate rock]

why not grab a prospector?

[pure field]

thats the point

[ornate rock]

mole mining seems kinda weird to me, I enjoy mining solo in a prospector cause I can watch youtube or listen to podcasts.

but in a mole you need to coordinate and talk to people

[pure field]

if im smart I wouldnt do delivery missions with an aurora

[ornate rock]

ye, first 210k to grab a rental are a bit harsh to come by

I had 500k, took a three day rental, now I have 2 million 😄

[pure field]

a rental with the base mining head? have ytou even used those?

[ornate rock]

nah, that's why you need 210k

100k for three day rental, 110k for helix

and then you use one of the many bugs to your advantage for once