#industrial-professions
high hatch
tribal goblet
👌
naive maple
Well, I guess I just experienced a rite of passage... lost a ton of hard earned aUEC to a trade run cause of 30k... just sux that was my second ever trade run!... set me back a week... back to smuggling boxes
rapid mantle
cant logout in bed in the Caterpillar?
Ditto LordWolf - 200,000 the last time...
I last over 400,000 during the fleet-event
tight otter
Has anyone found any good trade runs that aren't tram and myers diamonds to X place?
humble verge
So wtf is witht eh mole. iots fucking garbage
no bigger rocks, they clearly nerfed the detection range, which bascially means nothing but random luck finding more than one rock in an area. its impossible to move it and move it, because its so big and offset. what a waste of 300 bucks what garbage
the mole is clearly SHIT
ebon moon
I see some yelas belt talk going on... I tried it yesterday for the first time... it was utter trash for me. By the time I found just a small amount of quant (everything before that was tungsten and shit), I 30k'd. Came back, went to deymar, much better.
drifting flower
there's nothing wrong with the mole. Are you charging the scanner?
ebon moon
@humble verge You alright bud? I don't think I've ever heard anything negative about the mole before. Except that it's not a good 1 person ship. You def want at least 2.
coral drum
Argo needs to make more ships... love the design language of the mole
primal ether
maybe thats one of the "Unannounced" ships
ebon moon
yeah, argo only has 2 atm and 2 in concept... they slackin
coral drum
Mole has one of the best flight decks in the game imho - love the industrial look & feel
just wish it was operable solo
ebon moon
Well, it is, technically, but a pita... and not worth it
primal ether
I like MISC personally a lot
Mostly because
You sit down, power on
and the MISC lady is like
"Hello! How can MISC help you today :)"
so friendly
coral drum
yeah i know the mole is technically operable solo... i meant from the cockpit... and not having to switch seats
brave agate
Misc makes the prospector, visibility couldnt be better
You are literally sitting in a glass bubble
ebon moon
I know @brave agate Except for the times when it appears dirty. It's not so much prospector (although still dildoish) hud, but the huds of the others like Freelancer.
brave agate
To be fair. The prospector, designed that way is incredibly efficient at what it does. The shape it is really kind of is the best shape for a small mining craft. Have to remember industrial ships arent supposed to be pretty
ebon moon
I know... but I just wish MISC would mix it up a bit... too much dildo going on
blissful owl
good day guys!
someone could tell me where are the best places for mining in MicroTech?
coral drum
Each manufacturer purposely has its own style/design language, which likely won't change
kind yoke
good day guys!
someone could tell me where are the best places for mining in MicroTech?
@blissful owl Calliope
in my opinon
seems to be more rocks
blissful owl
@blissful owl Calliope
@kind yoke nice! INTO microtech planet, haves a good place?
kind yoke
but if u are looking at higher chance of valuable
cilo
@kind yoke nice! INTO microtech planet, haves a good place?
@blissful owl oh if microtech itself then just head to those mining outpost
and start from there
i dun like it there coz the atmosphere is so thick and it slows u down
i made myself a little spreadsheet to see the % of ore i want see if it helps
blissful owl
i've appreciate your tips thank you very much, I'll try it
kind yoke
pls correct me if there are any mistakes
not sure if bad luck or what i cant seems to find deposit in cilo
i find more in calliope
and btw u can land near the surface access near the commons if u dun wanna take the trains at nb
blissful owl
I think that i can't customize mining head on prospector rented right?
not "customize", but change it to helix
high hatch
You can, but its risky
You could lose it when you log out, it gets impounded/claimed/whatever etc
I've been using helix on a rented prospector for a few days now, haven't lost it, but I also remove it any time I'm not using it(except for between rocks ofc)
blissful owl
perfect buddy, thank you
digital thorn
Anyone here pay attention to leaks?
fervent bloom
Not often why?
pure field
If anyone needs crew for your MOLE, I'm interested.
frozen moss
please fix 30k for cargo wtf, why can't they at least make the cargo save to your ship until they sort it out
hollow sedge
do mining
high hatch
@ebon moon Small update, forgot my helix on the ship a couple times, even destroyed the prospector a couple times with helix equipped, and it stayed
high hatch
god
Sometimes I have such good runs, i.e. find rock formations often
Then runs like currently, it takes me like minutes between each rock formation, and like 5-10 rock formations per formation I can actually use
uneven citrus
Is it hard to use a mole solo? I like that it has a bigger cargo hold.
pallid temple
Its a lot more inconvenient
I mean the ship name literally stands for "Multi Operator Laser Extractor"
uneven citrus
I understand. I have a cat but all the 30k's are getting annoying and i figured id trade up.
pallid temple
Tbh if you're going mining, I'd get a Prospector
topaz bridge
Is the freelancer still free for all to use ?
pallid temple
Yes
topaz bridge
i thought it was a 3.8 thing because they messed up something and gave it in exchange
?
pallid temple
CiG granted us a Freelancer loaner as a workaround for a few bugs
When the bugs are fixed, they'll remove the loaner Freelancer
quiet atlas
where do i go to sell mined stuff in new babage
pallid temple
MT Planetary Services
brave agate
In the commons.. aka dont mine quantinium if you are selling there
If you want to mine that you are better off at port olisar
quiet atlas
cool where in plaza there now
brave agate
No clue, google it. I myself am not masochistic enough to mine and sell there. It takes longer to sell then it does to mine.
It and area 18 are a firm nope
woeful moss
nope
you can take a shortcut @brave agate
there is an outside landing spot
where you can skip the train ride
brave agate
Oh forgot, still takes an eon to land vs olisar
woeful moss
yeah olisar is quickest
and no annoying ind 😄
wind
but cellin or what it's called has so much quantanium it was crazy
quiet atlas
just went to clio for change of place to mine lol
woeful moss
clio
ha
that's what I meant
clio I found so much high value stuff
but wind and atmoshpere is annoying 😄
plus the selling process
brave agate
Well i guess that makes area 18 the worst to sell to. No fast way there.. or loreville really
blissful rain
CiG granted us a Freelancer loaner as a workaround for a few bugs
@pallid temple maybe for the 30k error lol
pallid temple
Its precisely that
coral drum
well not all 30k issues, just a specific one... 30009
MISC Freelancer has been temporarily granted to all backers as a workaround for Error 30009 and Infinite Loading Screen issues.
https://support.robertsspaceindustries.com/hc/en-us/articles/360003093114-Loaner-Ship-Matrix
foggy locust
do any other ships scanner's find mineable rocks?
proven token
Atm prospector and mole
I believe in the future you will be able to change scanners and detect differenty things
pure field
If anyone needs a crew for your MOLE, hmu.
proven token
man I'd love to show you a mole but I dont want to mess with the beacons to split the income
woven trail
anyone been having problems selling med supplies at hdms ryder on ita?
for some reason it outright won't let me sell med supplies there anymore its like they don't accept it at all
kind yoke
btw if u land on a paf
pad
and store the ship
ur quantanium dony explode
so if u like to take the train to nb
thats how its done
coral drum
do any other ships scanner's find mineable rocks?
@foggy locust Terrapin and Reliant SEN should also since they have the advanced scanning package
tardy mural
Works with Cutlass Red as well
inner musk
novel rampart
anyone know when the merchant man is available for sale again?
coral drum
likely in November-ish
kind yoke
im thinking if i am getting merchantman or hull D
both about similar price
what extra utility does merchantman brings over hull D
coz hull D seems to hull way more items
tribal goblet
Faster? Better armed?
lucid estuary
merchantman you can setup internal shop for people to browse goods for sale.
tribal goblet
Orion sale when?
lucid estuary
hull d just external cargo container shipping
i have both merchantman and hull d. different focus for each.
November for Orion
pastel frost
Hull d wont be able to land while holding cargo so merchantman can sell and buy at places hull c+ cant go
Only disadvantage to the awesomeness of the larger hulls
kind yoke
seems merchantman is a better choice
but if i recall u hv to be crewed for merchantman right>
?
orion is the mobile refinery right?
lucid estuary
orion is huge mining ship
proven token
its so big it really has like nothing to mine atm
tribal goblet
Nah
proven token
all transporting goods, all moving together, all will open up with turrets
tribal goblet
Orion + Cat
kind yoke
just tried microtech itself also spawn quantanium
foggy locust
good ship for box mission (purchased in game)
slim kernel
Is it normal for people to just shoot your parked ship when you're buying Cargo, so rude
azure heath
What's in it? Might be lookin to mug you
woeful moss
it can happen. if you leave your power on the shields should stay on though
some people are just jerks
like padrammers
some want to kill you, so that you can't buy up all stuff because they want it themselves
pliant frigate
refinery in port tressler is where?
woeful moss
next to trade terminals
around the desk on the wall behind it
Anyone else having his ship explode when going into hyperdrive?
primal ether
happens a lot yeah
floral flare
What's the best mining head for a mole?
woeful gazelle
Helix. It's always the Helix.
Size 1 for the Prospector, Size 2 for the Mole
although the Mole can technically also fit Size 1 heads if you already have one and currently don't want to spend more on the Heads for it
rapid shard
do we share shops invotory? so when i cant fill my freelancer with argicuim for example is it bcz someone bought it all earlier?
woeful moss
yes
pastel frost
People who say u cant or shouldnt solo large hulls... in chat above
You can solo cargo run with any hull... just do trades in safe space like scrap runs to PO.
But ofc... we see if trading is still as easy when hull is introduced and once server crashes dont eat ur cargo they may introduce new risk factors because at the moment only risk u really have while trading is a douche with torpedos but really in that situation theres not much that could save u i guess
hollow sedge
I have 40k so i could JUST afford to rent a prospector for a day, should I learn how to mine?
Or should i go cave mining
@hollow sedge you can mine with me. I just upgraded to a Mole and am looking to group mine. You can save money.
I'm new to mining as well.
I'd rather play solo for now, sorry
No worries.
what sort of profits can you make per hour with a base prospector?
spring comet
https://space4games.com/en/games-en/star-citizen-mining/ great guide for beginners
hollow sedge
thanks
nimble leaf
Can somebody tell me have they fixed the scanner of the mole? Is it working properly and see the minerals normally?
spring comet
when i was mining i averaged between 60-80k per run. that was before quantanium
neat vault
I hate that mining is too much rng
spring comet
that depends on your mining skills, knowing what to mine and not, distance to buyer etc. But i would mine on Yela then sell at Port Olisar. round trip could be 30 mins to 1 hr depending on your mining skills and yes some rng
spring comet
read the mining guide first. You can easily make back your rental fee and more in a run
hollow sedge
okok
high hatch
@hollow sedge did you rent it yet?
hollow sedge
not yet
high hatch
I'd recommend saving up another 10k or so
wintry pine
I have had crap luck with mining the past couple of days, so hopefully that's not a trend. It's common to make between 40-70k per run, depending on how picky you get with what you're extracting
high hatch
So you can get a Klein mining head
The stock mining head is pretty bad
Usable, but eeh
hollow sedge
this guide says you cant attach different heads to rented ones?
high hatch
You can, it's just kind of risky I've heard
I've been doing rented prospector mining with a helix head, hell I even forgot to take it off between storing and relogging etc sometimes, still there
Just take it off when you're not using it, except for between rocks, and you should be fine
hollow sedge
right
high hatch
You can make like 85k per run with agricium going for pure fractured chunks, and with a klein/helix head that'll go decently fast so 2 runs and you got the helix head paid for
spring comet
with the stock head you will have to pass on a lot of good rocks that it is unable to break. the Helix I will break almost every rock
high hatch
Yeah with stock you'll have to go for lower mass, and you'll have to search around on the rock for a weak spot
hollow sedge
riiight
high hatch
With klein you'll still have to do that but it'll be a lot easier
ebon moon
The padawan has become the master
hollow sedge
what would you recommend for making enough for that in the meantime? just do random missions?
ebon moon
do the 15k missions you can get from hurston
high hatch
Well you could do stock mining prospector, it'll just be a time attack game of getting klein head then getting the rent paid for
ebon moon
or that
high hatch
More safe thing is what gecko said, or a couple 8k ftl's etc
hollow sedge
right
spring comet
fyi, the helix is 108k uec
high hatch
Nah you can just get klein
spring comet
^ or that
high hatch
Klein is a good enough upgrade that you can pay back the rent in a couple hours
hollow sedge
klein is how much?
ebon moon
10k
high hatch
I wasted so much time mining with stock head, then I got klein at about 13k or such
hollow sedge
right
ebon moon
Hofsted is almost 13k
high hatch
Paid back the rent in a couple hours, then it was just smooth sailing to helix and then ez money
hollow sedge
ill do one of these 15k deliveries then
high hatch
Yeah hofstede is more stable(less jumpy/erratic power transfer), but slightly weaker
hollow sedge
and then start mining
ebon moon
And if you get to 100k saving, you'll wanna start doing 3 day rentals... that'll save you 30k overall
on the prospector
high hatch
I should be doing 3 day rentals
But then sometimes my 1 day rent runs out and I don't start mining until some hours later so I might lose some time off that 
Are those personal hurston deliveries always from reclamation & disposal orinth? Can do like 4 at a time
hollow sedge
yea i did two of those at the same time for my current balance
high hatch
@ebon moon You think 7 day rentals are worth?
ebon moon
They don't give you anymore discouint than 3 days do
high hatch
Ah
nimble leaf
I cant fracture rock with 4k mass with the best mining laser. How is that possible?
rock energy level goes 15% max and after , it drops below
high hatch
Try another spot on the rock
nimble leaf
oh my bad, the helix wasn't equipped
ebon moon
Ok, 1 tip... don't leave the helix on before your rental expires
high hatch
Don't leave your helix on when leaving the prospector for anything really
Might say on, might not
sacred tangle
Can I get a mining tool at area 18?
high hatch
All I know is you can get them from dumper's depot
If you're doing daymar/yela runs, there's one on PO
sacred tangle
Where in PO?
high hatch
next to the clothes shop thingy
sacred tangle
10-4 ty
frozen moss
door glitch on my cargo ship it won't close or open its stuck halfway
i tried storing it and logging out that did not fix it
wintry pine
what's the best consumable for widening the green zone on a tough rock?
ebon moon
@high hatch he was asking for a mining tool, not laser head
high hatch
Oh
Shit
Then I think it's area 18?
Yeah area 18, levsky, lorville, or new babbage
high hatch
Could look for a QT point with the same, slightly more, or less distance, in that direction
Or a lot further away, and just hold B / cut power when you're near
worthy pike
Any tips and tricks to get through the grind for my prospector so I can get the helix? I am hitting the three moons around crusader, but it seems like I get crap rocks or never get decent quantities of decent minerals.
It also feels like mining changed a bit. I can barely mine rocks 3400 or larger where I could when I rented the prospector before I got this one as a loaner
ebon moon
@worthy pike Personally, I recommend you do what apple is doing and grind 160k ish with the boxes so you can just helix right away. Otherwise, I did it the way you are and you just grab beryl and diamond ocassionally
a few trips and you'd got your money back... few more trips and you're good to go
proven token
i wish you could set your own QT points
high hatch
Honestly the stock mining head is just garbage
proven token
idk why they sell the prospector with a mining head that dosn't function well tbh
probably so you HAVE to upgrade it, and have some money in it
so when you get blown up you lose somthing
hollow sedge
72k
blissful rain
its dog crap
u cant mine nothing with the stock head
bnarely just about able to mine dimaonds/gold
neat vault
yeah but you can easily mine agricium and the like with the mining heads that cost like 10k
worthy pike
Yeah what head should I buy at 10k to speed it up?
blissful rain
that 10k head is still useless imo
its barely any better than stock
u really need the hex
and even then, there are some challenging rocks to mine using the hex
pallid temple
@hollow sedge You should have a mission marker for it, but you won't be able to Quantum Travel to it
hollow sedge
nope
neat vault
the 12k one is good
wet nova
is there a way i can attach a better mining head to the rental prospector?
sterile hearth
You can, but I think it dissapears when you log out...not sure.
wet nova
uhg they one it comes with is gabro
high hatch
@worthy pike @blissful rain klein head is good, definitely an improvement over default head
@wet nova You definitely can, whether it disappears when you log out, store it etc seems to be random, I haven't had it happen
You should be fine granted you un-equip it between runs
wet nova
What one is best to buy? And how do I equip it?
high hatch
Helix is best if you have 108k, before that Klein or Hofstede
Klein has a bit more power, Hofstede has a bit more stability
You equip it by going to the vehicle something manager in your mobiglas
worthy pike
@high hatch ill look at getting tonight. I made enough to cover 10k on the last run before I got off last night
high hatch
I'd definitely say the Klein is an improvement over default. You'll still have to search a bit around on the rock to find the weak spot, but it's much easier compared to default.
Once you get helix hwoever its in a completely different league, you can pretty much just blast center mass and break 99% of rocks, might have to adjust if its like 8k mass
wet nova
When I go to the page to change stuff it says read only?
ionic needle
hey guys , whats the best place to stack planteary cargo runs atm?
primal ether
if your ship is stored and it still says it, try unstoring it and claiming a new one
Annoying to deal w/
brave agate
how are you supposed to use your hangars to look at stuff? every time i go to put anything in no dots show up
brave agate
i am
primal ether
there are dots it's just hard to see
brave agate
right here should be one i can sit a cyclone on but nothing there
hollow sedge
rrrright
i have 72k
and a couple hours more to play
time to buy me a prospector
and the 10k head
just gotta find my way to somewhere that sells it..
hollow sedge
rent*
astral ingot
do all traders where you can sell cargo have a limit of how much they can buy?
selling widow in grim hex and he will only be 13 wtf?
hollow sedge
cant afford helix yet
also is it 24 hours from when you buy or is there a certain time it disappears
when you rent for 1day
pallid temple
24hours from when you rent it
hollow sedge
ok
pale nacelle
Where can I rent a prospector?
ebon moon
Area 18
cerulean viper
you can't put a new mining head on a rental
ornate rock
you can by going into the hangar module and switching it there
ship will be restored with default modules though if destroyed, so can be risky
cerulean viper
oh, interesting
ebon moon
You can also do it
by
Getting in your prospector, taking off, then while in space, open your ship manager, but don't select a ship
The prospector will be selected automatically, you can then attach the lazer head as normal. Also, from my experience, you only lose the lower heads. A helix will stay with you (unless you have it attached when the rental is over).
ebon moon
yep
high hatch
Daymar, yela
ebon moon
^^
hollow sedge
daymar or yela
got it
...
the transaction failed
and it took my money
and i do not have the ship
ebon moon
Go to AUS or EU server
pull it out and put it back in
It happened to me, don't worry
ebon moon
I gotchu
proven token
Yela is good
hollow sedge
GOD this thing is slow to leave orbit
ebon moon
It's just a shitty ship in general apart from it's job
ebon moon
Yeah, gotta watch out for asshats that got nothing better to do sometimes...
frozen moss
just stored my ship properly so i could find the trading terminal, when i hit store it went right to claim and now i can't sell my cargo and if i hit claim i'll lose the inventory
drifting flower
didn't really need to store your ship to sell your cargo.
frozen moss
was a new location and i didn't know if i could find the terminal before they moved it
drifting flower
you could still sell the stuff if they themselves stored it.
frozen moss
it shows on the terminal but won't let me select the ship to sell its inventory
and at the ship console it still says claim even after logging
drifting flower
and is it saying your hold is still full?
frozen moss
for now, im afraid if i claim it i'll lose it
but i don't see any other options
is this a known bug?
hollow sedge
2nd batch
drifting flower
as far as im knowledgeable of. you've lost your cargo. If claiming a ship deletes its inventory then it's gone.
frozen moss
worse part is i just made back all the money i lost to a 30k
drifting flower
maybe somebody knows a workaround but I don't.
frozen moss
sounds like im fucked, just wanted to check here first
im gonna log for the day i'll check tomorrow if i lost it whatever cargo running is still fucked
blissful rain
FFS 30k while out mining and had a good load!
tawny trellis
Are HDMS locations bugged atm?
ornate rock
you mean the markers floating above planets?
ornate rock
I'd assume that's backend issues right now
bunch of people are reporting all kinds of random issues right now
tawny trellis
ahh
proven token
you are a worker bee
hollow sedge
going from flower to flower
only stopping at the ones with lots of pollen
the way the prospector moves really adds to it
bzzz
and another
paper reef
9999999999999999999999
proven token
gj
tribal goblet
@hollow sedge
plain sun
wts best route for mining?
kind yoke
@hollow sedge try to be more picky when mining like only pick up argicium or above at like 60% or up or hell evwn 90%
u can net likr 80k per run
and for quantanium go to nb moons
like cilo or microtech it self
if u prefer PO then yela is the spot
plain sun
@kind yoke at microtech area, is there any other rifeniers
i dont wana go into the main station cuz my ship is rented with helix on
kind yoke
u can land outsife the commons surface entry
plain sun
anychance u can send me screenshot?
kind yoke
and theres a garage where u can spawn ur buggy
im not at home but i will link y to this
kind yoke
u can land right outside here and use the refinery
np i also just started mining in MT this week
and discovered i can drop my stuff here esp. quantanium
plain sun
okay so
if i lock on babage
go there
and look around for the commnons area?
@kind yoke i cant figure out where to land
i can actually fly in and land at one of the pads?
kind yoke
no
u dun need
if u find the entrence
just land outside it
i suggest u first go to nb on foot
thrn go to the said entrence
plain sun
so they can detct my stuff?
kind yoke
go outside and hv a look
plain sun
even without pad?
kind yoke
yes can detect
vocal chasm
To the more experienced players: how high is the probability to lose your cargo? Does that happen often? Thx for all answers in advance :)
feel free to dm / @ me
drifting flower
anyone running a Mole currently?
thin island
@vocal chasm It's always a crapshoot. Never invest more than half your money at a time
You're more likely to get a 30k disconnect error than get shot down, unfortunately.
pure field
worst time to trade is after a patchb
also anyone interested in hiring me to crew your MOLE, pm me
im the #1 miner in Stanton
vocal chasm
okay seems logical
pure field
and also flight week is worst time to do anything
anything trying to make profit at least
vocal chasm
Yea but i test ships at that time anyways ^^
thin island
What are the big benefits of the mole anyway, aside from just cargo space. I know you can have 3 miners, but I'm curious how that affects the gameplay loop
pure field
faster mining
big rock with big quantanium
needs extra hands
also for stabilization
one to support one to adjust
thin island
Yeah, I assumed stabilizing and reducing resistance are a key factor
I have a hard enough time finding big quant rocks anyway lol
pure field
oh man you are not hiring the right crew!!
thin island
I solo, don't have a mole so
pure field
Need a miner?? HIRE ME @pure field #1 MINER IN STANTON!!
I also do dogfights. can destroy CS1-4 AI pirates in Yela ALL AT ONCE NO PROBLEM. NEVER CRASHED INTO AN ASTEROID!!!
paper sierra
is GH the only place that buys widow?
dull rune
should i rent or buy a prospector?
kind yoke
even i own the prospector
i lost over 2 helix last 2 wrrks
weeks
30ks or just randomly disappeared
blissful rain
@hollow sedge where are you mining?
hollow sedge
so im getting like 60k per 40mins on yela
where abouts can i do better 👀
should i try some microtech moons
ebon moon
60k/40 mins is pretty good.
I'd also try Daymar
If you'r emaking roughly 100k/hr in a prospector, I'd say you're doing it right.
hollow sedge
Yeh once you get the hang out of it you can make around 150 an hour consistently
I make around 150-170 an hour unless i get real unlucky or real lucky, unlucky puts me at around 110. Luckiest i’ve been put me at 400 in an hour
Money making really isn’t fast
Like imo the fastest way to make money is with the cat at around 120-150k a run. But it’s also super risky with the servers the way they are
frosty turtle
Is there a calculator that can give us the profit of a trading run?
hollow sedge
past two mining runs have been 50k in 40m
neat vault
pray to the rng gods
frosty turtle
im considering using the freelancer to buy agricium from shubin and sell it on grimhex. my calculation show a profit of 150 units. unless im calculating it wrong
kind yoke
btw dont fly too fast
i usually fly at 100 ms^-1
if u fly too fast they cant spawn fast enough
kind yoke
like when they spawn then u already outside detection range
hence u think ur rng god failed on u
but thats not that
kind yoke
100 or lower
i tested it with my fd
i fly at 300
he fly at 100 behind me
i found nthing
vocal chasm
That could explain why i didn't find any rocks for 2 hours
vocal chasm
lol.
kind yoke
thats when i started to fly slow
kind yoke
😋
vocal chasm
i've flown as fast as possible in the past
kind yoke
yeh i also did that
vocal chasm
so that I could cover more ground
kind yoke
coz i didnt know they spawn in when ur there
i thought they are aready there
if thats the case flying fast is better
but not the reality
woeful gazelle
@hollow sedge if you're mining try the Yela Belt and look exclusively for Quantainium
vocal chasm
@woeful gazelle with a rented prospector too?
woeful gazelle
although you have to potentially refine your scanning skills
with a rented one you can't really mine Quantainium, sorry
vocal chasm
okay
woeful gazelle
base laser is too shitty
woeful gazelle
- overclock
woeful gazelle
I have never even tried any other laser than Helix, so I can't really compare 😄 but yes, I've bought 3 helixes so far
kind yoke
i tried to mine with my fd
he was using the one that stabilize stuff
i forgot whixh
it makes some quantanium deposit easier
they tends to jump a lot
woeful gazelle
yeah I know
I usually use Optimum if I really have to
kind yoke
but thats it if solo seems only choice is helix
woeful gazelle
which is about .5 times on average per big Q-rock
kind yoke
btw if u guys hv not tried to mine on microtech
pls try it
the view is fascinating
and it does spawn quantanium
kind yoke
planet only spawn specific type
but amount seems to be rng
there places u can never find quantanium
vocal chasm
some suggestions for where to mine with a rented prospector?
kind yoke
daymar coz u cant touch quantanium
vocal chasm
you mean no quantanium does spawn there?
so there's more room for resources i can collect
kind yoke
it spawn argicium and taranite
yela also spawn laranite and argicium
lyria is best in terms of non quantanium
but u need to land on area18
so daymar and yela seems the best
i just pick places that spawn at least 2 types of rare metal
lyria hv 3
excl quantanium
ebon moon
@kind yoke That's so nuts, and true. I usually do 300, then while I'm pinging, i'll get a ping behind me, like, wtf... I just came from there, how did it not detect when it was ahead of me
I'll have to slow down, that's probably my problem
kind yoke
😋 i also just discovered it not long ago so i know how it feels
ebon moon
BTW, daymar and Yela spawn quantanium. And you can attach a helix to a rentend prospector
pliant frigate
@ebon moon i thought you couldn't edit rented ships?
pure field
If anyone needs a miner, I'm for hire!! #1 miner in the game!
woeful moss
lol just lost 700k to a 30k again... been flying around for hours without a problem... this is just not worth it right now xD makes one go craaaazy
hollow sedge
what is the best thing to do for cargo
woeful moss
nothing right now as I just said. I flew where I need to sell it. Even landed there and when I wanted to sell the ship didn't show up
then server crash
ebon moon
@woeful moss that's why we say don't do cargo rn
woeful moss
and all gone
I know that 😉 just venting. other ppl I know did 5 hours of runs without problems. But the 30k turns out wasn't the only problem
lime kettle
Oh man thats annoying :o
novel nacelle
@woeful moss - same - just last night lost 280k - I keep trying, but 2 days of mining - gone in 60 seconds :p
blissful rain
even mining is shit
why bother
yes u dont lose money mining but time
no one does mining for the fun of it
ebon moon
I do
blissful rain
and more annoying when you find some good good and then bam a 30k....
rather it 30k whilst ballting someone via a dogfight in space or in fps combat.
hollow sedge
the day 30k's are gone is the day i will be happy lol
vocal chasm
The resistance level of a rock names the laser throttle level (not considering instability) on which the energy level of the rock stays the same. But it's also important how close your ship is positioned to the rock so my question is: how do i position my ship the best way so that the resistance level displayed on the hud is as accurate as possible?
Question 2: does the resistance level of the rock change based on the strength of your mining laser?
Thx for all answers in advance, feel free to @ me ^^
ebon moon
-
Space4games Mining guide https://space4games.com/en/games-en/star-citizen-mining/#fps-mining
Should answer most of your questions. Look at your laser head and look at effective range... that's probably where you're going to find the resistance sweet spot. Personally, I never pay attention to all that and my opinion is "Just get a feel for it". -
Yes. You'll want a Helix laser ASAP.
vocal chasm
okay 👍
blissful rain
Space4games Mining guide https://space4games.com/en/games-en/star-citizen-mining/#fps-mining
Should answer most of your questions. Look at your laser head and look at effective range... that's probably where you're going to find the resistance sweet spot. Personally, I never pay attention to all that and my opinion is "Just get a feel for it".Yes. You'll want a Helix laser ASAP.
@ebon moon this really should be a sticky. Can we setup a bot that actually sends this to any new person joining this chat for the first time?
raven mauve
Anyone interested in helping me getting started with prospector mining? (Once the maintenance is finished)
blissful rain
@raven mauve read the guide above
Then once u know the theory side, jump on with one of here to guide you
ebon moon
it is stickied
In fact, there are 3 stickies, haha... 2 for gallog and that guide is the only other one...
raven mauve
Yeah, I've went over that guide (And a few YT video I found) was planning on renting a prospector but was looking for actual practical help ^^'
pure field
If anyone needs a miner, I'm for hire!! #1 miner in the game!
ebon cedar
Yo guys, any tips on selling SLAM ? CRU-L5 only ?
blissful rain
Need help on that too
ebon cedar
I jsut did the noob mistake, buying way too much and now unable to sell all
regal notch
ebon cedar
If Gallog is updated correctly (wiki says something different on this case) then I'm screwed ^^
blissful rain
Lol
ebon cedar
yeah. if ship is stored, cargo is safe right ?
regal notch
yup
ebon cedar
great
I need to find a much more reliable trading route than this one... very bad try
ebon cedar
Hoping servers (for those in the same situation). Selling roughly (SLAM unit) : 0 / 154 / 56/ 54 /0 / 52 / 27.... all server loc.
On some servers, it's not even possible to sell (bug I guess)
frosty turtle
how do we scan with the multi tool?
wild canyon
Man wondering if I should upgrade my cat to a dog/MOLE
neat vault
No
primal ether
@frosty turtle Right Click and aim at a mineable
@wild canyon Agree with Troncat, don't "Upgrade"
frosty turtle
so its automatic?
pallid temple
Yes
frosty turtle
ok then, I just need to learn how veins look like
primal ether
The rocks are small (Knee high or so) boulders that have purple or orange veins running through them
frosty turtle
ah veins not just colored
quartz frigate
And green
Basically if it has veins in the rock you should be able to mine it. I have yet to see a rock texture with veins that I couldn't mine
woven imp
cellin - tram myer diamond > lorville cbd
loreville cbd scrap > PO
old creek
@latent pasture Arial Station are so bugged. Terminal shows nothing to buy
latent pasture
that is issue I was having at lyria
my usual route
and its never got all that much
Arial had nothing
vocal prairie
The glory of the carrack being sub ship of the month. For only 10 dollars, you too can own a carrack and completely decimate the trading economy.
ebon moon
carracks are poo, get a cat
But I'm surprised with all the lurking 30ks that y'all are even attempting trading
vocal prairie
Facts.
Apparently last night was a good run for a few servers. Had org members running 4 cats 6+ hours.
ebon moon
Then they lost it all on the 6th hour to 30k? Like, that's more my worry. Sure I can do runs, but to make any real profit, I gotta bring the cargo... not trying to just do 20k scrap runs. So that 1 inevitable time that I have a 800k haul, it's gonna be a 30k.\
vocal prairie
No, they stopped making the runs, the last couple they were worried about how long they were going. "One more, one more, ok thats enough"
reef summit
Hey I haven't done mining in a year what has changed?
tribal goblet
It's good money
wet nova
What’s the best shipping route to do or how do I know?
primal ether
Click the ports you're looking at
and check how much they can hold / regen per minute
100 Units = 1scu
So if a port can hold 1000 units of something that's 10scu
Generally things like Agricium are pretty hard to fill large ships on
My favorite route is Arial running Laranite + Titanium to Lorville
It's fairly short so less prone to getting nuked by 30ks
and makes decent profits
Buy as much laranite as you can, then fill the rest with titanium
other people prefer diamonds as the route can be shorter
and others still run 30k proof scrap runs from various truck stops (R&Rs at like HUR L5 and the like) to Port Olisar as both ends of that are stations which means your ship is never at risk of going into limbo
ebon moon
Best shipping route atm is no shipping route
I've had 30k while doing scrap runs, lost nearly 100k
ebon cedar
Is it possible to spawn in the ship while docked ? I learnt ppl are doing that to buy/sell faster
tribal goblet
no, but once you dock you can suicice to get out faster.
latent pasture
I used to just do lyria to PO with about 80-100k of Agricium
ebon cedar
aaaah. ok
primal ether
@latent pasture Yeah you can do small volume Agricium, but if you have a Cat or are using the Subscriber Carrack good luck finding enough agricium in the system to fill your hold lmao
and then further luck for getting to a TDD to sell it before 30k
latent pasture
aye I'll just do the arial to whever
pale nacelle
The perfect laser throttle
dry matrix
whats good to ship around with around 400k seed money these days?
okay so I scrolled up and found my answer. Thanks guys! lol
hmm... if I really wanted to live dangerously, is there anything better than diamonds to run? Anyone know for a Carrack running routes?
tame elbow
titanium problaby
dapper scarab
Hello guys, im going to try trading for a change ive been mining and I made 200k so far
any recomendations
I did my first run from daymar to OP
tame elbow
I recommend not running cargo because the game will 30k all your money away
dapper scarab
lol
gray reef
On the bright side, if the 30k kills your run, you only need to successfully do 3-5 runs to make it back
Unless you've lost the capital to fill up
leaden hornet
damn yesterday lost 420k to 30k...today im working my ass out to get even ...still missing 100k...I did first 1.5 M with courier and mining then tried my luck with cargo ...everytime i docked i thought to myself..." this time i saved the cargo, but 30k is waiting for the next run"...and in the end ...it showed is evil face hehehe
gritty flume
i feel ya, i lost 700K to 30k's 
, stopped playing for now since it's not worth it with all these crashes
still tide
12k for an hour of mining, couldnt find anything good.
worthy pike
I knew I was gonna have issues. I had 85% agracium and about 12% quantanium, with 3% inert... and some asshole shot from outside of armistice zone while I was landing at PO and blew me up
oblique panther
Is that hand mining? or ship mining?
worthy pike
Yeah, was rough
Pissed me off, thats for sure.
What's worse, is he got no crimestat as well
worldly trout
why?
worldly trout
I was unaware we got notified of other folks crimstats
worthy pike
I was waiting for the bounty to pop up to kill him
worthy pike
nah, he just flew around and killed 3 more
worldly trout
welp
po is a prime spot of that kind of griefing
easily the shortest distance to the terminal
worthy pike
never experienced it before
worldly trout
I've seen a few people get torpedoed
sage dragon
saaame, had like 90%+ of only agricium and diamond, some idiot killing everyone outside po
made me wanna just sell the prospector and do claim jumpers for all eternity
high hatch
Any way to make the prospector scan cooldown shorter?
sage dragon
don't scan fully
high hatch
well yea
sage dragon
idk.. can u overclock the scanner? xD
sage dragon
i got no idea lol
distant sapphire
you can overclock the ping. you get about and extra 500m
high hatch
How?
distant sapphire
in the power mfd
high hatch
Although it seems I can't even change the displays in the prospector
Is that one of these
It seems I can't change the mfd's to anything else
sage dragon
Restart the ship, usually that fixes the screens for me, so u can switch them and stuff
remember to land first...
high hatch
As in just cycle power(U)?
Oh there it is
Can anything bad happen to overclocking stuff
sage dragon
if u don't have enough cooling it will warn for overheating, eventually the ship shuts down I think? maybe?
topaz zephyr
Is bexalite on daymar?
distant sapphire
yes
errant lark
anyone elses caterpillar sporadically explodes over area 18?
with full cargo
idk if i got rammed
trim vigil
errant lark
@trim vigil I was in an armistice zone, I thought damages couldn’t be received
ebon moon
Armistice just means you can't attack. But if you have the range and the person attacking is out of armistice, yeah, they can hit you.
raven mauve
Are you sure? I tried attacking a red player parked on grim hex and he wasn't taking any damage
And I definitely had the range
ebon moon
I believe if you're actually parked, you might not take damage... but if you're still anding, I'm fairly sure you take damage... not 100% on this tho. I do know I couldn't lock on to someone with my missiels while they were parked...
ornate rock
you don't take damage from player guns if you are inside armistice, npcs can still shoot into armistice and damage you.
not sure about missiles / torps.
sterile hearth
You can get damaged even parked. Happened to me yesterday.
But I was damaged by NPC I think. Did not see any players. And no crimestat
raven mauve
I rented a prospector to get started in mining an hour ago and since then I've:
- Failed to spawn the ship from the terminal
- Managed to spawn the ship and crashed as soon as I entered it
- Been Quantum intercepted and destroyed by pirates on my way to port olistar
- Failed to claim the destroyed ship once I got to olistar on a different ship
- Got a 160007 error when restarting the game
Am I cursed or something?
sterile hearth
That sucks
bitter wolf
@raven mauve the game is in alpha phase friend, you wanted, there are certainly many bugs in the game, but it is normal because it is still an alpha version, you have to hold on and not be crying for the problems. I have also lost a lot of mining material, it disconnects from the server, but I do not complain, and I continue playing it because I like it :).
With pirates it is easy to escape, right after they stop you, you must turn back and get away from them, in about 20 seconds you get away, they no longer follow you, and you only do the warp again.
translated by google from spanish to english.
Xd
ebon moon
@raven mauve sounds like the world doesn't want you to mine
@bitter wolf I wouldnt' quite say he was crying... He was releasing our frustration in a semi-entertainable way
Nvm, just saw it was translated, so I have no idea what the original words were
woeful moss
yeah, sometimes ppl just need to vent
bitter wolf
hahaha, I know, when translating this, I think the gossip I was trying to say to mention that they should not cry xd is lost.
Although I have cried when I lost up to 60k of only mineral quantium TwT
woeful gazelle
well, I've lost at least 2 million UEC in this game so far, so whatever
ebon moon
but who hasn't yeah
woeful gazelle
in the end we'll lose everything in the alpha anyway
latent pasture
pad ramming at PO is big
mainly cuz new people are there so old player wanna fuck with em
vocal chasm
I have a question regarding the pinned mining guide
.
"At what percentage should I mine"
does that mean mining with mining mode or collecting with extraction mode?
woeful moss
mining mode
vocal chasm
so if i get a unmined rock that consists of 15% titanium and by breaking it first and then collecting only the parts that contain 20%+ titanium that whole process isn't considered worth my time right?
woeful moss
fno try to only collect chunks with high percent of material
vocal chasm
wait how high is high percent?
woeful moss
Maybe you can read it better if it's in german
I usually only extract at 85+% per chunk
if you have 2.5% on a 7000 unit rock that's 175 or so of the material you're looking for, which is a good yield
also important is the second % number that shows how high the chance it that you find them all in one chunk or that they break apart into bad chunks with low %
vocal chasm
85% seems very high tho
vocal chasm
sure
so the second number shows the chance of breaking into good parts
that's interesting
until now i though that this number shows the mass
okay i'll try the stuff out for myself thx
woeful moss
best way to figure it out and if you need anything just ask here
vocal chasm
sure it's a good source to talk to more experienced players 👍
I'll try to incorporate the advice i get here
errant lark
ok cargo is a waste of time
yep
complete
too many god damn issues
disconnects
landing zones
not fucking worth it
2mil gone in one day
neat vault
Yep
ebon moon
@latent pasture It's usually the other way around... new players that don't know ettiquette pad ramming
Shit, I follow the guide as it says... takes less time... if there is a agricium node that is 2.5%, I'm cracking it open... and only grabbing chunks that break > 2.5%. Then I go til I find a quantanium to finish out. Nice to know @woeful moss about the second # tho... never knew what that was for and I'm not sure they covered it in the guide..
woeful moss
@moldy nope wasn't covered in the guide sadly, as well as efficient pinging in asteroid belts
Still a good guide to get started
ebon moon
I did see a vid on pinging in asteroids tho... also @errant lark where have you been? Literally everyone except for the people that pretend like they have some special powers have been saying "Don't do cargo" right now.
woeful moss
I lost soooo much money on cargo runs lately it's not funny. Doing cargo the whole day with low amounts and then think "wow no 30k." load up ship with 700k worth of cargo... server says "fu!die!"
🤷
woeful moss
And that happened while I got to the terminal to sell it
yeah
rather be mining right now
ebon moon
I'd rather lose potential earnings with 30k while mining than REAL earning with 30k while cargo
woeful moss
yeah
naive maple
I'd rather lose potential earnings with 30k while mining than REAL earning with 30k while cargo
@ebon moon precisely
pure field
anyone doing mining
wet nova
I found a gem icon when mining asteroid what do I do?
thin island
Anyone ever see quantanium almost instantly go to the final phase of instability, only moments after mining it?
I just found a nice node, and before I could even finish mining it I got the screeching flashing red light and exploded within 5sec
Easily 200k lost to an instant explosion
naive maple
I found a gem icon when mining asteroid what do I do?
@wet nova that is a hand mineable
You have to get out of the ship and mine that with the Pyro-tool
neat vault
@thin island server desync?
thin island
Idk, I JUST loaded it all up off a monster rock
I was empty beforehand
and before I could even finish loading it up i poofed
It's not like 20min had gone by since I picked up quant
ebon moon
It's more than 15
There is some time before yellow, then yellow, I've never got to red, but I also don't know how close I've cut it. Guide says 30, I feel it's more around 20
tribal goblet
I've started timers from the moment its tractored in
Wouldnt spend more than 15 with it in my cargo.
stuck shale
Hey guys! What is the best location to mine with argo mole i just bought helix laserheads and willing to make some money.
drifting flower
yela and daymar are the only 2 good places to mine. annoyingly.
tribal goblet
yela's a gold mine
thin island
I tried aberdeen also. The spawns are fine but flying around sucks due to poor visibility
stuck shale
any specific locations for example at daymar ?
or just random flying arround
i mean close to some kind of mining facility
drifting flower
just pick an outpost as a refence point and fly out from it.
thin island
I haven't noticed any correlation in terms of spawn locations. You'll find stuff all over the moon
tribal goblet
Its random
stuck shale
How do i know what is the best upgrades for my mole ship ? i want to upgrade engine cooler and so on
tribal goblet
ebon cedar
is there a way to recharge handmining tool ? mine is always empty in prison
drifting flower
you don't need to recharge it. The tool just often spawns without it's mining attachment
ebon cedar
I figured it out tks. Working fine
long tinsel
Can you not mine more valuable resources with a rented prospector?
Tried to mine for quantainium and agricium but my laser was too weak
:(
thin island
The stock laser on the prospector is kinda crap, anything over like 3.5k is going to be tough, and forget quantanium entirely
You can upgrade a rental buy buying the parts in game, and leaving the PU to equip them in your hangar. BUT, its important to remember that any time you have to claim the vehicle (crash, bug, 30k, etc.) you need to go back to the hangar and remove the parts first or you'll lose them
The hofestede mining head is the best starter laser until you can afford the helix. I would skip anything in between.
@long tinsel
long tinsel
Oh I see
thank you for the advice
@thin island Is there a moon which tends to yield the most resources?
thin island
All of them have pretty similar spawn rates, but I prefer Yela and Cellin
long tinsel
I've tried daymar but majority of the time I was wandering around looking for things to actually mine
thin island
It's like that everywhere, you'll get used to it. I set my speed to about 200, set my rader just inside the white ring and cruise pinging on CD til something pops in front of me
ebon cedar
is renting expansive ?
thin island
Hopefully you know how to use the scanner. Press TAB to bring up the interface, right click charges a ping, release the click to ping. If you find rocks left click to scan them and find out what's inside
long tinsel
It's 40k for a day
thin island
You can rent for 40k/day, and make at least 90k (if you are patient) per run with the helix laser
long tinsel
I kinda just jumped right into mining and I only have about 20k left
thin island
but its miles better than the rest of them
long tinsel
and these are permanent right?
long tinsel
ohh I see
thin island
Just don't claim your ship to replace it until you go back to the hangar outside the PU and remove it
Otherwise byebye helix
If you own the prospector outright (either via in-game currency or real money) you don't have to deal with removing the laser before every claim, which will save you a ton of time.
ebon cedar
90k per run. How much time roughly per run ?
long tinsel
So when I'm in the hanger, the lock icon will be removed from the prospector?
thin island
But, its a workaround for those who can't afford it.
@ebon cedar, it depends. If you get lucky, 10 minutes. If you have bad luck finding good rocks, 45min
Correct Cirno
ebon cedar
rgr. nice !
thin island
And I meant to type 80k, but yeah close enough
drifting flower
TFW when i find a 20% quantanium boulder and blow up a 25% chunk because of a lag spike. Then lose the rest in a 40% chunk to a crash to desktop.
long tinsel
tbf I didn't really have much time to mine today so I'll have to do some deliveries and keep my auec until I'm ready to go ham
thin island
If you stumble across a nasty quant rock you can come home with 200k
long tinsel
I found a 22% quant rock
thin island
Oof beryl, I had an 8k 18% quant rock today.
long tinsel
sad days
thin island
As soon as I sucked up 50% of the quant my light started blaring and I exploded out of nowhere.
bugs are obnoxious but whatever its alpha
long tinsel
What's weird to me is I didn't seem to find a single handmining rock
drifting flower
that boulder on top of the laranite i had was more than likely going to cover my lose of a helix head.
thin island
I don't think I've ever seen a handmining rock just flying around
They are mostly in those caves
thin island
the mining head? yes
drifting flower
I've been using the Impact head instead of Hofstede
long tinsel
nvm I moved to a different screen
drifting flower
imo it's fine to use that as well
long tinsel
problem with the impact is that it's 5x the price of the Hofstede
drifting flower
only 57k and more power output
long tinsel
But
long tinsel
Are ships not meant to actually show up in the hangar?