gotchu
#industrial-professions
woeful gazelle
Borase is also okay but usually cracks in shitty chunks
hollow sedge
ok
woeful gazelle
if you've never mined in an asteroid field, probably take a look at this video first: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp7C84llrEA
there's also some tips on scanning from me here:
https://discordapp.com/channels/82210263440306176/572706150286622720/717286663855931434
woeful moss
^
that helped me a lot
did a small tour today and finding way more asteroids now
slower than planet scanning but more and bigger clusters
Just need to find some with good resources now 😄
Montis, I sent your tips to the creator of the ultimate mining guide with your contact details. So maybe you will get a mention when they update it next 😄
hollow sedge
@woeful gazelle where do u sell
woeful gazelle
@hollow sedge Port Olisar or GrimHex
Montis, I sent your tips to the creator of the ultimate mining guide with your contact details. So maybe you will get a mention when they update it next 😄
@woeful moss lol okay 🙂
dense canyon
proven token
very nice Marty
slate mulch
can i ask
when doing cargo delivery,like i qt to the destination but im 1000km off
i must slowboat my way there or did i do something wrong
brave agate
you have money like that... loan me a 100k for another helix head 😛 jk, jk i dont actually beg. i will suck up doing deliveries for it... again
naive maple
i must slowboat my way there or did i do something wrong
@slate mulch if it’s Smuggling runs, you can’t QT precisely to the location, but you can set a QT point to another destination on the planet further away where your path goes over your destination and then click i to cut your engines right before you pass by your destination to drop out of QT... if you do it right, you should end up less than 300km from Orinth (aim at Pinewood from Everus), Orphanage, Samson, Brio, etc
slate mulch
the 15k illegal delivery mission
it starts from houston recycling center or something
naive maple
Yep... just follow my instructions above
woeful moss
only copper lately in lyria belt
anybody else have the problem with unscannable stones?
vapid zephyr
Quick question, Why does my Freelancer or Mustang not show up on the Trading console?
novel nacelle
Does the Mustang HAVE a cargo hold?>
Any ship with a CARGO capacity AT the location of the terminal, SHOULD be displayed.
I have had trouble with outposts not recognizing a ship for trade
brave agate
mustang has a capacity of one little person or one extremely cramped bigger person
ornate rock
have you ever seen a Mustang?
brave agate
its small
novel nacelle
Lost Cargo Video! lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MacA6M5HNGg&feature=youtu.be
brave agate
i thought that was one of those tiny argo ships. basically a flying dumpster they call a hauler
topaz zephyr
To swap you back back when mining so the minerals are stored safe, is it as simple as going into your mobi and swapping? Or do you have to go back to your shop to swap backpacks
brave agate
i dont swap until i sell
brave agate
odd, wehen i had a server crash they were still in my pack
brave agate
finally got the 3rd helix head. lets see how long i keep it this time.....
woeful gazelle
good luck
blissful rain
can u resell mining heads?
pallid temple
No
topaz zephyr
But if I were to swap my backpacks, do I just go into my player management screen and do it? Or do I have to go back into my shop to do it
Because for whatever reason I guess I just get the crap servers and I end up loosing everything
dense canyon
Right now the rings of Yela are where it’s at. Every run is successful. Made like 300k-400k last night in a few hours
topaz zephyr
I cant seem to lock an asteroid to. They always show up like 10k away, then when I get there, nothing. I stick to the planet. I must be doing something wrong out on the belt
naive maple
I cant seem to lock an asteroid to. They always show up like 10k away, then when I get there, nothing. I stick to the planet. I must be doing something wrong out on the belt
@topaz zephyr same
I am finally headed to Microtech to check it out... which of those 3 moons is good to mine with a Prospector?
woeful moss
@brave agate equip it to the prospector
log out
log out of launcher
log back in
Someone said that way it's written into the persistence ledger and should stay
brave agate
that doesnt work, i logged out 3 times after owning it last time and it still dissappeared. its a known issue
woeful moss
damn, okay... good luck then
Just never log out then and never let it get destroyed 😄
brave agate
I am just gonna only equip it when i use it. The modules i have stored seem to stay
blissful rain
Yes i finally got money to buy the helix 1
proven token
Damn man,that video, if losing cargo was that epic I wouldn't be so mad
ember geode
can you mine Bex with the Hofstede-S1 mining head
coarse barn
So y'all how's that single trade route?
pseudo grove
@topaz zephyr same
@naive maple I saw a vid saying that astroid mining is a bit broken ATM
with the mentioned issue of them dissapearing
I want to get into mining so bad, but i need to clear a few hours of the sched before i...Dig in
woeful moss
yela asteroid belt is not broken @naive maple @pseudo grove
pseudo grove
ah GTK ty
pseudo grove
oof
woeful moss
but no disappearing
pseudo grove
my plan is to stick around PO
woeful moss
yela the moon is fine
zealous sphinx
topaz zephyr
Interesting. I’ll have to watch some gameplay on how to do belt mining. I usually make around 40k normal mining, but I just started out. I seem to be getting a lot of inert materials
hollow sedge
so many more rocks to mine on daymar than other moons, are other moons of higher quality?
a lot of lower tier stuff on daymar
tawny gull
Welp, finished my first mining run with the Mole. $47k at Daymar.
Not sure how much time I soent though. I'm timing the next run. Have a Helix head equipped.
errant lark
bruh no where has enough stock to fill my carrack
the max ive been able to fill is 8cu
scu*
dafuq
is this happening for anyone else? theres no stock
drifting flower
anyone want to mine with me? i'm on Yela.
violet notch
ive been mining yela to grim hex anyone got some tips i have a prospector
inner musk
Been so long i cargo runs not sure best spots to cargo now lol
raw kite
I only do scrap runs with my caterpillar at the moment, its the only thing that I can always find even though it doesn't pay that great
zinc moon
Anyone want to run cargo with me
ornate rock
check in #looking-for-session
tawny elbow
reposting this question from the main room here, maybe some of you space truckers pay more attention to hauling-related dev talk?
re: trading as new systems are introduced
are they going to change the mechanic where players can't dump all their SCU at a trade outpost? it doesn't make sense that a warehouse would be so full unless the price of the commodity was skydiving like with what we saw with oil this year
prisma elk
Any idea when they will make the mole purchasable in game? Me and a couple of friends would love to try / get one but can't justify the price.
ornate rock
@tawny elbow have you seen the talk on Quanta from citcon?
tawny elbow
nope
ornate rock
it's a long one, but might give you a really good idea where they want to take trading
tawny elbow
cool, i will watch it
errant lark
has anyone found a trade route that allows you to even fill half of a cat
raw kite
I go from some of the R&R's to PO on scrap runs
around a 70k investment gets you around 30k profit
errant lark
im tempted to melt my carrack for a pirate cat and gladius, save the remaining money
idk
placid bridge
How to not blow up rock?
errant lark
what
placid bridge
yes
prisma elk
Any idea how to see how much of a particular material you have in your prospector?
pallid temple
Not until you go to sell it
tawny gull
30k'd just before landing at PO on my final mining run for the night. I bought an Argo Mole and put a helix head on it. Man what a difference. I had a stock prospector and hated it.
But, running solo and just learning the mining game I netted $225k on four runs.
Spread across all three Crusader moons
kind yoke
how does the mole fares for solo player
like if its so annoying to hv to land and use the turret?
i like the storage size but still thinking about the hving to jump out of cockpit thing
tawny gull
Personally I don't find it annoying because once you're in place you're likely fine. The turret has a broad range of motion, so repositioning isn't likely.
kind yoke
then i think its fine by me also coz usually i land my prospector
to avoif winds u know
the argo has a bed right?
prisma elk
Best place to go with a stock prospector?
dense canyon
So, i am having this weird issue where that game is fluctuating how much cargo my prospector is holding. At full, it just showed me as only filling 848/3200. But it then let me sell my minerals twice. Any fixes?
tight otter
Hey guys question is there certain items with near unlimited stocks? Like for instance scrap, anything else like that?
tight otter
I at least haven't ran out buying at lorville CBD
kind yoke
i think waste is also like that
tight otter
I've heard rumors of titanium although i don't have a ship big enough to test with
kind yoke
if u go to mining base
usually tungsten always hv stock
so its like u fill up with diamond or other
then fill the rest with tungsten
woeful gazelle
So, i am having this weird issue where that game is fluctuating how much cargo my prospector is holding. At full, it just showed me as only filling 848/3200. But it then let me sell my minerals twice. Any fixes?
@dense canyon unfortunately not. it's a bug that happens quite often. but there's other bugs for your benefit in counterpoint where you can sell multiple times or you get much more quantainium than you're supposed to
tawny gull
@kind yoke Yes, the Argo Mole has four beds for a full crew.
ancient terrace
question, is it possible to find surface hand mining rocks with any ship?
or is it only detectable by a prospector/mole currently
because all I have is the mustang and grinding to a prospector is out of the question
ebon moon
Dude, 40k isn't a grind
Take your mustang, grab the 4 delivery missions from Hurston
that will make you 60k. Take those, pick up 2 from Orphanage when you get there, that will give you another 30k. One of those trips allows you to almost rent a Prospector for 3 days
tribal goblet
only 3 days? eww
ancient terrace
um you do realise the mustang can't do delivery missions right?
ebon moon
3 days of having a mining ship = $$
Is it a one seater?
You go directly to the pilot seat when in and out?
If that's the case, melt that thing and get a better package (maybe the aurora)
ancient terrace
I'm not spending a penny more
ebon moon
I hate the aurora and more than anything recommend the titan. But not being able to do deliveries sucks
That's why I said melt the mustange
iirc, it's the same price as aurora
ancient terrace
but I like being able to do combat
ebon moon
I'm just trying to help you here. If you wanna shoot yourself in the foot, that's up to you. Aurora can do bad combat too
ancient terrace
still no have idea why they don't have an mining Aurora sized ship, that would at least be affordable
ebon moon
Because they don't. And probably because an Aurora sized mining ship would still cost a ton of money.
And probably break very few rocks
tribal goblet
Hey now, the Mole is quite good at mining
ebon moon
FPS mining, I believe is bugged atm. However, if you want to do that... you can pick up investigation missions that will send you to caves.
tribal goblet
you can fps mine..?
ebon moon
Yes
ebon moon
I'm pretty sure it's bugged
ancient terrace
yes but can only get 10k an hour
tribal goblet
Pretty sure it works..
ancient terrace
I'm pretty sure I can do better bounty hunting
ebon moon
They may have fixed it, I dunno. Was bugged last time I tried. Now I just rent prospectors until I have money to buy one
tribal goblet
@ancient terrace I wouldnt listen to him. He doesnt know what features work, and his suggestions are basically "spend more money"
ebon moon
You definitely can do better on delivery missions. That'd maybe be my first suggestoin. Get yourself enouigh money to rent a ship that can deliver (Probably need liek 20-30k), then start making 90k/hr
I'm not saying spend IRL money
You have to risk/spend money to make money. FPS mining has been buggy and you can even check the "goto" website for mining as a confirmation. Also, it's not as lucrative.
tribal goblet
I'm not saying spend IRL money
@ebon moon
If that's the case, melt that thing and get a better package (maybe the aurora)
@ebon moon
🤦♂️
ebon moon
That's not spending money... do you know what melting is?
I also said, I believe they are the same price iirc (from memory, didn't look at the site).
Yep, same price...
@tribal goblet Thank you for being quiet. I appreciate you for trying to help the guy... but giving bad information isn't productive.
oblique panther
Where can i sell scrap?
brave agate
Erm, the prospector isnt all that much bigger than an aurora
It just has side bags to hold the rocks
oblique panther
Yeah Grimhex is gonna be my play, thank you. I keep getting fucked by 30k errors but thankfully they seem to be gone
primal ether
yeah today hasn't been bad
slate mulch
im just gonna wait till they allow player trading or sharing profit
then ill mine on someones mole and earn a wage until i can afford my own mole haha
ebon moon
@slate mulch I was thinkin gabout that. I don't have a mole, but I'm wondering if I can pay someone by the minute using the beacon system
It could be interesting to say the least
oblique panther
Grimhex does not buy scrap
high hatch
Guess I'll ask here, at what amount of the thing you're trying to get do you grab a fractured rock?
brave agate
Wait, what?
high hatch
Yeah read it, they're just not very specific with the amount
woeful moss
What?
high hatch
Like with the green stuff they say only pick up chunks with very low share of inert
What about the others, and how much do they consider a very low share
woeful moss
ebon moon
@high hatch If you've read it, you can see the thing I posted in the general chat
high hatch
ye
woeful moss
Oh okay
ebon moon
Hmmm, that's true tho... I don't know what they meant by that
high hatch
I see
ebon moon
Obviously that's best... I guess just fiddle with it... 50% is good tho leanord
high hatch
Damn that's being quite picky
woeful moss
I usually make around 90k a run, give or take. Due to being picky tho sometimes a run takes a little longer
woeful moss
Of course you can get diamonds and gold and stuff too
But I see mining as a relaxing passtime
woeful moss
Money comes while you're doing something you enjoy. If you stress yourself out to make much money it will only be boring sooner
ebon moon
pinging arouind, exploring the moon
ebon moon
are yo uthe one with the quick NB sell spot?
high hatch
Yeah fk dark side of the moon
Can't see shit
Mining is definitely fun to me, just not with the default mining head lmao
ebon moon
I heard there is a spot you can fly rigth next to the NB surface entrance and sell rather quickly
woeful moss
No, where?
I usually mine around po
because of the short way to sell
but that sounds interesting
ebon moon
Supposedly, this also makes it a short way to sell
I just don't know new babbage enough to know where that spot it
is*
ebon moon
Nope, could be a org mate
woeful moss
the normal delivery mission to nb are outside of the city
maybe you got that mixed up
ebon moon
Nah, guy was like he mines, then flies to the "Surface" entrance area at the city, runs inside, sells quick and runs out
woeful moss
Mhh let's find it 😄
but it still would be connected to an elevator
this would be it
just have to find that entrance
@ebon moon
thanks for bringing that up, new goal for when I play later 😄
high hatch
Is there a trick to finding the spot to mine on the rock
Takes me ages sometimes
End up taking things with only small shares of the material because it feels bad leaving it when its taken me ten years to break the rock lol
helix head soon hopefully
turbid plinth
@high hatch if you’re using the stock laser dont bother with rocks bigger than 4k
high hatch
klein head
turbid plinth
Ooo how does it do?
high hatch
Better than stock
turbid plinth
I went strraight to helix
high hatch
But not really that much better I'd say
I'll get helix when I can, but first I need to earn back the money this rent cost
turbid plinth
When i was mining with stock id do <4k. Fill with gold and up
high hatch
Wasted a lot of rent time not knowing I should've just gotten a new head
ebon moon
Yeah, you're looking at gold and some agricium with that lazer
turbid plinth
It was just gobbling small stuff as fast as possible. 15k run every 20 mins
high hatch
I'm just grabbing whatever is at the top of that space4games list
ebon moon
But what I do leonard is head to one of the mining facilities on Deymar, then I ping a full ping and just keep zoning it in... if I see beryl on the rock, I bounce
turbid plinth
Can u change the head on a rental?
ebon moon
Yeah
turbid plinth
I thought ubcouldnt
high hatch
risky but yes
ebon moon
You can do it, but you risk losing it
ebon moon
so, with helix, I was told it'll stay with you
and no fucking way am I unequipping between rocks
ebon moon
Dunno, just what I was told
high hatch
doesnt make sense
ebon moon
Most of this game doesn't make sense right now 😛
ebon moon
yes
high hatch
Oh hey firing center mass is fine
Aaand I exploded the one fractured rock with agricium in it
ebon moon
d'oh
high hatch
Some deposits with 100% diamond tho
With helix you don't have to find that specific point to mine right?
Or do you still have to do it, but its just super easy?
Doesn't look like ppl search for it in vids
high hatch
Maybe i've misunderstood mining but
If you fire at a rock, at 100% power, and it's near 0% transference, you have to aim around on the rock to find a place where the transference goes high enough right?
Seems to be the case at least, but again I might've misunderstood
Ayy, I broke even compared to right before I rented the prospector
Which is quite a feat considering I wasted 20 of the 24 hours having absolutely no idea how to properly mine, and doing so without a bought mining head
primal ether
Fucking spend all day
Doing shitty little runs to turn 100k into 600k
Server crashes the instant i fill up and i lose 500k
With my carrack just sitting there on a pad somewhere in a dead server
Fucking AWS piece of shit
woeful moss
@ebon moon
Anybody who wants a place to sell minerals fast near microtech
this is the secret entrance to nb
ebon moon
@primal ether yeah, that's why we don't cargo
Yeah, I found it earlier right before I crashed @woeful moss
primal ether
it's the only thing that makes you money at an acceptable rate
primal ether
til the fucking server crashes because its run by the biggest corporation in the world and they still can't keep it running
ebon moon
I mean, tell me, how much richer are you now than you were when you started today?
primal ether
50k an hour when even single seat ships cost 1m+ is not acceptable
ebon moon
There is a reason most of us don't cargo, even though I have a cat. And instead choose to rent a prospector
primal ether
and a prospector costs 4.5m to buy
ebon moon
And?
primal ether
I'm sorry I don't want to spend 50+ hours doing something mundane to get something that's actually neat
raw kite
the purchase price for the prospector is 2,061,000
primal ether
Yeah
woeful moss
Rent is like 40k for one day
primal ether
and then fill your hold with 5-10% agricium deposits
woeful moss
give or take
ebon moon
@primal ether I mean, at this point in the game, making money really has no point. But cargo running is just as mundane (I personally say moreso) than mining
primal ether
Because god forbid there's anything reasonable to earn credits in this game
ebon moon
^^
ebon moon
You'll pay back the 40k rent in 1 run...
woeful moss
and try to enjoy again
primal ether
@ebon moon I have 2 friends who refuse to play because they wanna get on a ship the 3 of us and there's no ship that can do that without spending 100hours+ grinding for it
woeful moss
it's easy to get tilted over something like this
primal ether
A pros
woeful moss
You can rent
woeful moss
and last week you were able to fly big ships for free
primal ether
I rented a prospector like 3 days ago
I spent 2 hours on lyria
scanning non stop
Found dozens of Quantainium deposits
That I couldn't mine
ebon moon
Leaonard has been doing it one day... he's made even
primal ether
scan scan scan
ebon moon
You go to delamar, go to the mining areas and scan
Don't just grab quantum, cuz you can't take them.
ebon moon
Shit, 3 runs of mostly beryl pays for 1 day of rending a prospector
primal ether
and found 15k worth of Agricium for it
ebon moon
were you just going for agricium and up?
ebon moon
I don't believe that
ebon moon
beryl is pouring out all over the place there
primal ether
literally didn't see a single rock
ebon moon
Where on the planets did you go?
primal ether
Lyria
ebon moon
where specificially?
ebon moon
Well, then I don't know what to tell you.. cuz on my first run in a prospector, not knowing anything, I made 20k in less than an hour or so
and soon, you'll be able to trade $$ to your friends... so you could all trade to one guy, rent an argo mole and go to town
granite imp
the guides are often out of date as of late, they made spawn changes to minerals on planets to include quantanium spawns
primal ether
it said it was updated 20 may
but i did get the feeling it was out of date
was on some shitty word press blog
probs just fishing for clicks
granite imp
going to try cargo hauling again, was messing with the substitute Starfarer Gemini last night. i am not used to flying a house.
ebon moon
@granite imp That things worse than a house
granite imp
I know, its kinetic bleed is stupid slow, i keep overshooting landing pads and shit due to over acceleration
I want my M2
ebon moon
I can't wait to start doing hull ships... I guess I'll do M2 in the meantime
probably will upgrade my cat
or melt it
ebon moon
hmmm, I didn't have a helix and it wasn't much of an issue
but I definitely needed at least a klein
made it night and day
granite imp
if you mine point blank the Klein laser is perfectly fine. if you want a bit of range for possible overcharge escape the helix is a must
and absolutely stock up on consumables to get better results on difficult rocks.
blissful rain
consumables?
what do u mean?
dont u just need a klein or helix head and away u go?
or is there another component?
ebon moon
You can mainly use the mining head... its' teh most important
However, consumables can be useful. I've never used them, but I'm about to buy some opimum
for those hard to get quantainiums (the only ones you really might need consumables on).
granite imp
Handy little chart on what the consumables do. https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/fkr4qr/mining_consumables_latest_info/
they are temp components you add to the laser to change performance values of the laser for a set amount of time before they burn out.
woeful moss
Yeah, I used klein to and it was fine to get enough for a helix
granite imp
Mostly keep optimum on hand when i mine with friends in the Mole when we come across an unstable Quantanium node. Makes it easier to keep the rock stable to break without it exploding due to overcharge.
granite imp
not sure, i know you can access them from the mining laser interface if you have them in your inventory.
upper right of the power toggles on the Mole mining laser turrets
ebon moon
I believe they are keybound to Alt+1, 2, or 3
granite imp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnlOyxNV1vA 3.9 overview on using them while mining.
they havent changed since this video was released
tender river
Is mining in space working again?
granite imp
Im not sure, I havent been to a space field to check in the latest patch, I'll know this weekend when i have the rest of my org run the mole for a bit.
woeful moss
lyra asteroids work
around grim hex and stuff
the others are still supposedly broken
granite imp
I run cargo, the other members in my org mine while we wait for salvage to get implemented
dense canyon
This one duped and let me sell twice. Biggest haul I’ve ever had, over 300k
woeful moss
congrats
high hatch
Is mole worth for solo mining?
drifting flower
i'd say yes. others would say no.
high hatch
Why so?
drifting flower
you can't operate the lasers from the pilot's seat so you have to get out into the laser and keep adjusting the ship to get the laser a good field of view.
eventually you learn the distance you need to be at to operate the laser.
The mole also eats fuel much faster then the prospector.
novel nacelle
SPACE... the final frontier (cargo space)
brave agate
buying one isnt either, finally got a 3rd hex head, now i can no longer use my prospector
high hatch
Why not?
brave agate
i have lost 2 helix heads so far and the 3rd i cant use. so far the prospector has caused me a net loss of 300k
high hatch
oof
brave agate
not worth it
high hatch
For you, nah I can see that
brave agate
the only way i can get it back is to reset. with 0 in my wallet because i used my last pennies to get the helix
high hatch
rip
hollow sedge
are you able transport Boxes with the Mustang Beta ?
granite imp
no
none of the mustangs can cary boxes, Best off getting an avenger
the aurora can but only if you drop it in the door after you get in.
naive maple
I’ve piled 4 boxes in the Aurora
Get the Aurora as your starter... use it to smuggle boxes and buy the Titan in-game
granite imp
i dint like the flight model for the aurora, so i grabbed the Avenger, and then upgraded that to a Reliant Tana.
the kore isnt bad either, i just like to run NPC bounties when i get bored hauling boxes
naive maple
buying one isnt either, finally got a 3rd hex head, now i can no longer use my prospector
@brave agate I got lucky and the game stole away my original mining head instead of the Helix
gritty flume
@brave agate those issue's with the prospector is what made me refund it, not worth the headache
proven token
So wait, because somthing is bugged in alpha you refund it?
I feel like that is a very bad way of looking at things atm
gritty flume
yes too bugged to be enjoyed so not worth it atm
ornate rock
refund or melt?
proven token
Yea but... you'll enjoy the concept of it eventually right?
by that argument i should melt my starrunner, because its broken
its not in the game
i cant have fun
ornate rock
might as well use the buyback later
gritty flume
yes eventually, so i will get it EVENTUALLY. Once it's not so buggy
ornate rock
you don't have to, but no one will blame you if you do @proven token
gritty flume
@ornate rock was a refund
proven token
lol
ornate rock
was that your only package? or is refunding possible on individual standalone ships?
brave agate
is there any way to shut up the hints
ornate rock
disable hints in options
gritty flume
It was a game package upgrade, but you can refund standalone ships as well
granite imp
yeah i melted my Max to grab the Herc M2 when it went on sale.
I dont mind the starfarer loaner, but man it fly's like maneuvering a houseboat.
granite imp
to collect, no, and the Starfarer was supposed to collect Gases, and process it into fuel
but they handed over part of the quantum fuel process to mining
It could still work as a mobile refinery
and Gases collection, scoop up H3 on the way to your friends in the Mole, Offload the Quantanium and process into quantum fuel to distribute or rescue stranded ships
proven token
Yea I guess thats how it will have to be
Your going to have to load up on H3 and follow a miner, when he gets quantinium transfer it to you quick before it explodes
granite imp
yup he gives you QT Ore, you give them H3 fuel to keep mining and you refine it into QT jump fuel.
That alone would make it a nice operation
proven token
then you both sell it for bank i guess
granite imp
QT fuel prices from docking and landing would have to be MUCH higher than what they are
but i could see that happeneing
ebon moon
yeah, it's scary
But it pays off
I spent forever on this shithole we call calliope
No good mines, then boom, two quantainum right next to each other
drifting flower
how is the sorting process from the miner to the starfarer supposed to work though? You're more than likely going to have other ores in your saddlebags. Would you use the jettison function to give just quantanium to the starfarer?
ebon moon
I'ts all just speculation yeah?
I'm guessing that since you can jettison volatile materials on their own.. that they must have their own compartment
probably just hand that over to the starfarer
high hatch
I think I'm just gonna stay away from quantainium lol
Too spooky to mine at this time of day in EU
naive maple
Tractor Beam
and on my Prospector... it looks like 4 different storage units attached to it... and that aft hatch on the prospector make me think is where you could organize your load... or purge inert materials perhaps
robust zinc
Is there a good resource to figure out the math on how to calculate the value of a ship with 100% of a resource?
example: I have the Mole, and its cargo is 96 SCU (9600 units). I want to know how much $$$ if I load it with 100% of something
naive maple
well, 1600 in weight is 32 scu (full prospector)... so that should give you what you need to calculate the value of your load
robust zinc
so 1600 mass is = to 32 scu
naive maple
a 97% load of Quantanium on a Prospector gets around $260,000 if that helps
so 1600 mass is = to 32 scu
@robust zinc yeah... i spent one evening adding the mass of every rock extracted and it came out to exactly 1600
robust zinc
If my math is right now, in a Mole, 100% Quantainium is $ 563,776.00
naive maple
@robust zinc nice job!
robust zinc
Not my credit 🙂 My friend made this, I am just helping
naive maple
well kudos to him
robust zinc
hold on, i think that math is slightly wrong
thats a 3200 mass bolder is work that much
not a full load though
woeful gazelle
@robust zinc your math is incorrect
you have to divide it by two
hollow sedge
how would you get that much quantanium in the first place
naive maple
1600 mass fills a Prospector
robust zinc
So if I have 3200 Mass then it would be 3200/100*2 to find SCU
woeful gazelle
@high hatch yeah but it's bugged if you recently did a Q-run
naive maple
no 1 mass equals 2 units
woeful gazelle
if you picked up something that's not Q, it shouldn't. if you didn't pick up anything: jettison now
naive maple
cause when you're at the refinery terminal, it still says 3200 units (32 SCU) yet its taking out 1600 mass of goods
robust zinc
so then 32 SCU = 1600 Mass? Or is that a display bug on the terminal window
1600 Mass = 3200 SCU so 1 Mass = 2 SCU
hollow sedge
does it only jettison the quantanium?
high hatch
dude this jettison button is making me scared
high hatch
Does it?
woeful gazelle
I believe it jettisons everything but I have never actively investigated it myself
twilit lynx
Every time I have pushed the button it has dropped all cargo
hollow sedge
ok
naive maple
100 mass equals 2 SCU
robust zinc
right now its gone, but later other ships can pick them up and transport
woeful gazelle
yup, that's what happens if you picked up materials other than Q
if you hadn't picked up anything, you would now be dead
woeful gazelle
it's very odd behaviour. hope they fix that soon
high hatch
I just fucked some agricium because it didn't show the rock energy level zones :(
this is so sad
humble verge
What is the current best mining ship for a crew of 2 people? that is flight ready and I can actually buy?
propector unfor it only one person. would love a 2 seater
woeful gazelle
there's only one multi crew mining ship and it's the mole
humble verge
is it good? or crap? is prospector better?
also whats the dif between carbon edition and standard?
woeful gazelle
it's bigger, has triple the cargo space and 3 mining stations. if that's better is up to you.
the editions are usually only cosmetics
woeful moss
It also has the better laser with the helix II
woeful gazelle
yes
woeful moss
"Argo Mole"
woeful gazelle
Mole
humble verge
nice ok so there is NO difference other than cosmetics from teh different moles?
are they all the same prices?
holy shit 300 bucks wtfffffffff
how many in game credits? can U buy in game ?
woeful moss
Not yet
woeful gazelle
Mole is not yet available for UEC
humble verge
is grey market a legit way to buy or againts rules? I see alot of it on the reddit so not sure?
obv dont wanna risk it but i see people "gifting" ships etc and that ship trading is a thing as they change in value lol
woeful gazelle
no idea. I only have my 45 bucks game package and will never buy anything else for this game with real money.
woeful moss
Have never heard that it's against the rules. But of course it carries a certain risk
ebon moon
@humble verge Technically, it's a grey area
high hatch
Kind of a small conundrum
My cargo is filled 73% in prospector with some agricium and a bit of hephaestanite
I just found a cluster of 6 rocks quantainium all being 2-20% quantainium... Do I jettison everything and just go full quantainium 
ebon moon
btw, anyone that thinks renting a prospector isn't profitable... I've already paid off my 3 day rental in 2 runs and almost about to pay off my helix
I don't think you can jettison everything
But if you can, do it
That much quantanium is huge... You're on daymar?
sand saffron
Yela belt can have those rock collections
ebon moon
I'm out here in Microtech land and it's a lot shittier than I expected
high hatch
Daymar yeah
twilit lynx
Is asteroid mining working again?
high hatch
Just really lucky
sand saffron
I have mined asteroids in 3.9 and 3.9.1
I get some bugs, like quant dissapearing
but I have 1.5 million in my wallet, so something is working
sand saffron
phantom pings happen, but you can quickly ping again
and sometimes rocks cannot be scanned/mined
woeful moss
yela belt asteroids seem to be fine
high hatch
Is asteroid mining worth compared to daymar?
woeful moss
I only found copper clusters, but if you're lucky. sure
high hatch
Guess I'll stay with daymar
high hatch
Bruuh just made 60k off a single run
If my ship gets impounded, or destroyed etc, do I lose all mods on it?
Speaking hypothetically if I had a full paid for ship, not a rental
Since it says "a standard version with the factory setup will be delivered to your current location after a period of time"
neat vault
yes
high hatch
dang
neat vault
man mining with stock mining laser sux
woeful moss
buy 10k one
tribal goblet
the 10k one isnt bad
neat vault
Yea I kno
high hatch
hmm
@ebon moon I landed at PO, put Klein-S1 on the prospector, and went and filed claim (was bugged, supposed to be store), then respawned it again
Mining head was still there 
Off to get helix
ebon moon
good to know
high hatch
I'll probably still keep taking it off for fear of it just disappearing lol
ebon moon
defintely before logging
humble verge
So I got the mole, how do u log out in the ship?
woeful moss
does the mole have beds?
humble verge
yeah 4
humble verge
i press f and it just looks forward/
i just hit escape? there is no actual log out button or nothing
woeful moss
try turning your head first
there is a log out prompt
when you look in the right direction and press f
hold f
humble verge
nothing
just looks at the screen
this fucking game I swear to god will never be finished
woeful moss
someday it will
humble verge
when another game is 10 times bigger and better lmao 20 years from now lmoao
drifting flower
i think the game just poofed some of my quantanium out of my hold. i know for a fact at least 50% of my hold was quantanium and that i was at 100% capacity. Yet when i just landed at grim hex. The console said i had 720 empty cargo units and only 1% of quantanium so I only got 11 thousand aUEC.
I wish i screenshot it but the orange flashing light was making me panic.
ebon moon
Just because you don't know how to properly do a function, don't blame the game
Have you logged out of a bed before @humble verge ?
bronze sleet
They must make it so that your ship goes back to the same place you spawn at when the game hits you with a 30k or any other fking error. I'm sick of claiming my ship back every time.
ebon moon
@drifting flower Did you click the orange flashing light?
drifting flower
no. i didn't jettison anything
ebon moon
@bronze sleet yeah, that's one of my biggest complaints too. Sometimes it does. Usually not. Like how hard is it to say "rewind player 10 seconds from 30k time". They must not have a database at all.
bronze sleet
probably not.
woeful moss
It's hard because maybe all the stuff up to the crash lead up to the crash. so you just load it back 10 sec before and crash again?
No way to tell why they decide to do it this way
yeah it's annoying but that's what we got right now
high hatch
I'd take a quick guess and say its a lot harder to "rewind player 10 seconds from 30k time" than you'd think
Logic says if its that easy they would've done it already
ebon moon
For sure... But I have a feeling it's not actually that difficult if you had your shit set up right. I have a feeling it's more an issue of they have a shitty database and thus can't do it.
naive maple
WTF... so is it normal to only be able to sell 24 units (1/4 of a single SCU) of SLAM per 5 minutes?... this can’t be right?!
tribal goblet
Is there a list of what is avalible where?
neat vault
@high hatch I think its random
high hatch
140k haul wew
tribal goblet
in what ship?
tribal goblet
Just got a Mole. Mining time 😎
high hatch
Is the point of mole for solo just to have more cargo space?
tribal goblet
yeah
high hatch
Wouldn't it be a slower return/hr since you have to ping pong between seats
neat vault
yea
high hatch
Idk if the lower amount of travel time makes up for that
high hatch
Yeah, but its still a decent bit of time lost swapping seats, mining thing, going back, repositioning to next rock, going back, mining, etc
tribal goblet
But if you get a friend 😉
high hatch
Adjacent rocks can prob be mined in one go if you sit the right spot ofc
Yeah
But then the question is, is it worth it compared to just doing two solo prospectors :p
main grove
Those that mine. Do think it's best to stick to the standard mining heads until I can afford the Helix or should I do gradual upgrades.
main grove
What does the different heads actually do? Is it to crack the denser rocks
neat vault
they have different charectaristics
main grove
I finding some rocks don't budge
main grove
Ok cool. Must say that I'm playing far more than I did now that I have a loaner Prospector
neat vault
its a great ship
just make sure you get size 1 mining head
cause size 2 is for the mole
tribal goblet
you have to jump from pilot seat to mining seat
main grove
Oh thought so. So best to land before mining
tribal goblet
Just hover directly over the rock
main grove
Not into combat with SC and I like the look of the Mole but would love a ship than can do mining as well as cargo. I know Prospector takes a few items by the bed area but would prefer a ramp area.
high hatch
Do you guys just skip over a certain mass?
Trying to mine an 8.4k bexalite rock and it just seems impossible
worldly trout
the mining head makes a huge difference
high hatch
Using a helix
worldly trout
ah, well, if you move the beam around that'll raise it faster
and get closer
with those tough rocks though, when the blow up, it seems like an auto death
so be careful
novel rampart
+!
high hatch
Hmm
Did a mining run with prospector/helix, 85k earned, 69k/hr. Is agricium bad to go for? Doesn't seem very valuable, 80% of my cargo capacity was agricium
plain sun
thanks for not answering my question
proven token
kayne you want an answer?
no one knows anymore because its all messed up
the last patched changed trading around
plain sun
yeh cudve just said that lol
plain sun
so what is profitable now?
plain sun
hand mining?
high hatch
Well I've done a 140k run, which agricium could never hit
proven token
handmining is eh, prospector / mole is very good
plain sun
can i renjt prospector for same good results?
high hatch
You can rent it however it'll be default
proven token
with the default lazer, you can't make as much
high hatch
You can put on a different mining head though
Just gotta remember to remove it anytime you're not using it, before you store the prospector etc
It's known to just kind of.. disappear
So you're gambling the worth of the head if you use one
I'm doing rented prospector helix mining rn, you earn back the price of a day's prospector in about an hour with helix
high hatch
My bad, wrong person 😄
hollow sedge
no problem hahaha
plain sun
okay do u have a guide i can follow for the prospector mining?
i know how to scan for hand mining
plain sun
but idk how to use in space or for minerals
high hatch
What, the 85k haul? It was decent
You just gotta be picky with what you pick up, I only picked up fractured chunks of >90% agricium, then just fill the cargo
tribal goblet
Having trouble finding that good good with my mole
high hatch
On 6th chapter(There's a nav thing if you scroll down) on that link I sent, there's a table for what stuff is good/bad and when to get it
I only take the highest category, pale green and below takes up too much space compared to what its worth
Better mining head will of course also increase your return/hr
tribal goblet
Yeah only have the 10k one
high hatch
The helix is much nicer to use
Goes much faster, and for most rocks you usually don't have to aim around searching for the right spot to mine either, you just aim center mass and crank the power
novel rampart
also i bought some medical supplies from a station and tried to sell them at another place, the only place woudl only buy 26 scus (i had 51), any ideas how long it takes for a stations buy amount to refresh?
im not sure if its set to only accept 26 every x minutes or if someone else had run the route or what, ive looked up refresh timers on gallog, i dont see any clear info about how quickly the refresh on stations buying produc tis
plain sun
@novel rampart https://www.gallog.co/commodities/metal/agricium/
high hatch
Any of y'all only mine bexalite/taranite/borase/quantainium?
Would love to do quantainium but volatility :/
novel rampart
@novel rampart https://www.gallog.co/commodities/metal/agricium/
@plain sun how does that help?
ive seen that already
it says max inventory i.e how much u can buy from them, afaik, not how much they'll buy from u
pallid temple
Look at max inventory in the buying column
novel rampart
ahhh
reeeeeeee
thanks
i dont think the refresh timers are accurate
im at daymar 141 and theres only 1000ish units of agri
its max capacity is 18k, which implies someone has come by and within the last 15 minutes bought all of it
ill sit here for a few minutes and see how much rejuvinates
novel rampart
either the refresh rate is wrong or the overall amount each place holds has been drastically reduced
by a factor of like 9
wooden charm
whats the restock time for trade goods?
novel rampart
its different for each place
supposedly to be each minute
not true though
sigh
humble verge
what is LTI? like is an LTI mole b etter than nomral?
errant cradle
Basic level insurance that’ll be available on release. LTI = lifetime so your ship will always have basic level insurance
Basic hull insurance doesn’t really cover anything so most people are going to have a higher level insurance on their ships
LTI is useless for the most part, people just love making sure the ships they buy have it
humble verge
what do ones in store have it?
or only war bond ones?
can you buy and sell ship modules?
i need a helix but dont feel like mining yet
lol
so if I can pay someone cash hahah
i see u can buy and sell ships but that gos thru the account so I wonder
tribal goblet
LTI is nice because if you pay real $$ on a ship, it would suck to lose it forever. Imagine blowing 300+ for a ship in a game, only to lose it because some kid rammed it.
humble verge
yeah biut I mean u can buy insurance in game once it comes out lmoa
and I heard its not expensive
although sounds like u need to keep buying it eacvh time so who know
So what is the best quantum drive for the MOLE and also where can I buy the Helix 2 laser?
tribal goblet
totally worth
vocal prairie
Worth every penny.
Buy 2 hofstede size 2 at PO for the other lasers
No need to upgrade anything else on it.
topaz bridge
Did anybody make a new spreadsheet with all the prices and what makes how much money ? Like there was for 3.4.3
vocal prairie
Honestly? Just use https://gallog.co/trading/
topaz bridge
ah i thought you had to completely put everything in there on yourself i never saw the list a little bit further down.
vocal prairie
Yep just go to commodities tab. They stay pretty up to date, but prices fluctuate with trading. Sub ship of the month is the carrack so expect trading as a whole to be a shit show until next month.
vocal prairie
You'll still get a profit just expect it to vary. I'd suggest doing runs in off peak hours, which will be difficult with the weekend approaching.
But yes, you can absolutely never go wrong with mining.
ebon moon
Also, doing cargo runs is scary atm. 1 30k and you lose everythign you had
mining is the way to make money atm (or delivery missions)
but moreso mining
vocal prairie
Find a good playlist to get you through the dull hours of scanning.
I have luck doing the same thing at Yela every time, QT to Arc Corp Mining 157. Immediately drop to the ground and put it to my back. 30 mins tops I have full Agricium/Laranite hold on Prospector. 45 to an hour in the Mole.
Mole is best done with just a pilot and 1 miner on the nose and split profits 50/50 (if you own it and are generous)
Key is having the Helix 2 mining head on the nose and a Hofstede size 2 on the side.
drifting sable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzI6jDqi7OY what i play when transporting cargo across the system
ebon moon
@vocal prairie How do you pay the other guy tho? Cuz I'd lvoe to mole it up, but unless I'm paying them by hour and not 50/50, it's a little more difficult yeah?
granite sage
@ebon moon You pay them by using a beacon. You don't have to be in the same party once you are done and want to pay your partner. Then create a "transport to ship" beacon (I always use the freelancer because for me it works best) while on the ship. The other one has to be inside once they've accepted the beacon. And you just hop off and DONE! It will he easier once they implement the Trade app
You could set a price for each run. That's up to you. I split it 50/50 but I'm very picky while mining so we earn around 100k each if we have the patience and don't get 30ked...
spring comet
OK, so yesterday I was on cru L4 and loaded my cat with cargo. Just as I paid for the cargo 30 K hit. Log in today check my cat at the trade terminal, it still has cargo. Go to the terminal to pull out my ship it says it’s in hanger 2. I go to the elevator there is no choice for hanger 2. there’s no hanger 2 at all on the panel I went to every landing pad to check for my ship and there’s only one hanger 1. if I can fly to another port and claim the ship will I lose the cargo?
gritty flume
If you do a claim your cargo will be definitely lost
spring comet
Well, I EVA’d to my ship marker , it’s definitely in hanger two but that hanger does not show up on the elevator panel.
🤨
gritty flume
This is what i found on the website, it might help you out
spring comet
Wow, thanks! It didn’t occur to me to use the mobiglass....
gritty flume
No problem! 👍 just let me know if it worked
spring comet
Will do, I just logged out and back in again to see if that would fix things...
ebon moon
You can also try to sometimes go to another server and doing it again
spring comet
Ha ha! The mobiglass garage door opener worked like a charm! Thanks for all your help!
gritty flume
No problem! I'm glad it worked out for you
novel rampart
how many stims can you sell at once now? i sold 900 units yesterday which i thought was a a lot
hollow sedge
U can easily sell more when u switch servers (while parked on the pad!!!)
It will keep the caro
*cargo
ebon moon
@blissful rain Average I'd say
But also depends how long it took... if you did it in 10 mins, then yah, pretty good
blissful rain
But also depends how long it took... if you did it in 10 mins, then yah, pretty good
@ebon moon took me 40min
quiet atlas
is mining asteroid belts Fixed
blissful rain
In yela yes
quiet atlas
cool no SC for me today tho installing the new launcher wiped the entire game off my ssd
pallid temple
Sounds a little like r/softwaregore material
proven token
I kept getting ghost pings in yela's belt
not sure if that was patched
Like you'd go to the location and there would be no astroid type thing
hollow sedge
yea asteroid mining seems a lot hit and miss
have better success on yela itself, plus the pings in asteroid fields seem to attract some bullies who want to bully a little prospector
maybe I am too close to grim
proven token
lol I've only ever been blown up once, and it was on delamar i believe in the middle of nowhere
cutty just flys in blows me up and leaves
Since the crime / prison system I havent seen as many issues, idk if anyone else can attest to people not wanting to be in prison
hollow sedge
i think the pings from the scanners are big baits though, but probably not an issue if you are far away from grim hex
proven token
yea, I am wondering if mining ships will be plundered in the verse
Might be hard to get raw ore out of the prospector into your cutty or what ever
Also, probably not as worth it as going after a cargo ship
Especially if the miner has Quantinium or what ever
Hes a flying bomb, on a timer
You shoot him, he explodes, you get crime stat and no money
ornate rock
I assume prison has stopped random ganking to a degree, once the cash transfer makes it into the game it might be worth bothering miners again though
proven token
true that
idk why you would bend over to extorsion though, let them blow you up they end up paying in the end even if you pay instantly in wasted time
drifting flower
I kinda hope so honestly. Pirates hassling freighters and mining crews will hopefully influence the security market.
caterpillars would have to hire body guards if they're running a known route.
proven token
I can understand freighers getting harrassed because they potentially have very valuable loads and investments on their ship
Thus, you hire security
a gunship, maybe a few fighters, some turret gunners... somthing
high hatch
What moon do you guys mine on? And what material do you mainly go for?
high hatch
Been going for anything here
Just usually skip over quantainium because its explosive ofc
proven token
yea if you mine the quantanium you basicly end your run there
gotta head back
but it could be worth it
🙂
high hatch
Yeah I grab it if its at the end of my run
I do wonder if its worth pingponging back and forth with quantainium outside end-of-run
drifting flower
it's 15 minutes
drifting flower
it says both 30 and 15
high hatch
🤔
drifting flower
i timed it myself. it's 15
proven token
I say no
drifting flower
no. they're not working. just yela's
high hatch
Yeah was thinking yela's asteroid belt
high hatch
Guess I'll try yela itself
proven token
stay near the equater
high hatch
Why?
high hatch
huh
high hatch
belt?
proven token
the side near the sun
high hatch
Right, but what axis on yela is this
proven token
where the sun be
high hatch
And I guess this is the current state of our world population, taking jabs at people for not knowing things instead of just kindly helping them
proven token
The equator of a rotating spheroid is the parallel at which latitude is defined to be 0°. It is the imaginary line on the spheroid, equidistant from its poles, dividing it into northern and southern hemispheres.
just dont go to the poles
there are less spawns there
if i didnt care i wouldnt have responded
high hatch
Yeah honestly this still doesn't help me find the equator, I have no clue where the poles are
drifting flower
the 2 big white circular patches on either side are the poles.
then quantum to a point that's in-between those points
high hatch
Thank you 😄
high hatch
Man mining on yela is a lot harder than daymar it feels
Usually I go as fast as the atmosphere allows so 300 ish, and I can slow down fast enough for rocks I find. I do that on yela, and I just fly ahead 
So the poles would be top & bottom? @drifting flower Just double checking
flat trench
drifting flower
yes @high hatch