industrial-professions

[old hawk]

Yeah, I'm just wondering how I should go about it. Upgrade my 325A to a Prospector, or just make money in game until I can buy a prospector.

[coarse barn]

Only issue I've been having is not being able to trade even lower profit stuff due to the player amount

Either works but prospectors are like 2 mil I think so keep that in mind. You can rent one but not as much profit

[frank grove]

Hey, can anyone tell me if it's possible/how to find mining deposits if all I have is a multitool and a Titan?

[sand rune]

Can only FPS mine by searching for mineable rocks in caves (if you accept one of those missing person in cave missions)

[frank grove]

Crap, okay thanks.

[tawny linden]

if i buy upgrades to my miner ship and the ship is destroyed, but has LTI. do the components I bought ingame remain on the ship when i get it back?

[naive maple]

Borrow someone’s Cutty Red... has a long range scanner to find FPS mineables... or at least did in 3.9

[primal ether]

@tawny linden As of currently, any modules you buy in game are returned when you claim the ship on insurance

As in the ship still has them on respawn

Regardless of if your claim is due to Destruction, 30k and it's in space, or you traveled somewhere and just wanna move it to your location

[tawny linden]

woot

[left gyro]

does anyone have a fix for the argo mole right turret being shit

[brisk sapphire]

define being shit

have you a different mining head on it , go for Helix imo , o7

[outer tree]

Helix S2 or Klein S2 if you can't afford Helix, it's life changer

[woeful moss]

Can someone please tell me where to sell ore I mined?

[outer tree]

Go to admin office, there is a Refinery touch screen near the trading one

If you sell at Microtech you go to Common > Planetary services

[woeful moss]

thank you

whoops I just sold it -.- so if I had refined it it would have gotten me more money?

[woeful gazelle]

you can't refine anything yet

[woeful moss]

whew good.

I just thought I did something wrong

[lament kernel]

Hi, is there a way to turn the mining stuff from the prospectors cargo capacity into boxes?

Or if not, is there a way to get rid of less valuable materials to make room for more expensive stuff?

[woeful gazelle]

no and no

[brisk sapphire]

well not yet , inert mats will be dumped at a later point , just fracture and pick the best stuff o7

[errant vigil]

Hi to all sorry to interrupt but is anyone having problems signing in to PTU

sorry wrong place

[latent pasture]

well, rip to my 180k of cargo :')

time to grind back up to 100k with deliveries and start doing this again

[outer tree]

😦

[latent pasture]

to anyone getting into cargo hauling -

The added risk™️ comes from the 30ks potentially loosing you 100s of thousands in one unavoidable swoop

even praying to chris roberts cannot help your chances

[eternal copper]

it's the thrill that makes cargo hauling so special

will I 30k or gain money? Only one way to find out

[latent pasture]

As soon as you hit purchase on that cargo

its no longer in your hands

your fate and bank balance remains in the palms of a one chris roberts

[polar bolt]

why dont the cargo just save to the ship until they fix the 30ks

[wraith tulip]

Or, they could just save to the ship like.... anyways lol

[woeful gazelle]

look, your credits will get wiped at some point anyway, so it's not that important to spend programming hours on implementing a feature that will be obsolete at some point. I know it's frustrating to lose money (and I personally don't do trades because of that) but you should think of the bigger picture here

[jovial flint]

I just want to mine 🙂 who's with me.. where do I achieve this ?

[eternal copper]

pick up a multitool and a mining attachment for it and head into the caves

[turbid plinth]

i am so confused ;/ My prospector is bending time and space

one run it didnt empty when i went to sell, so i sold twice. another run everything i picked up became 100% agricium (with the volatile cargo lights on). Now my cargo hold is infinite capacity

[calm tree]

I had the selling twice thing today also, but i was doing cargo runs in a full carack, that was a nice payday tho

[jovial flint]

I'm in a freelancer..

[eternal copper]

infinite cargo in the freelancer must be a dream

until the 30k hits

[vital axle]

I put my food/water into a commodity box. How do I take them out because now they are taking space in my ship?

[half ruin]

anyone want to tag along on a mole?

[supple spear]

does anyone know why there is no global?

@vital axle access your inventory

[vital axle]

They were in there but then I clicked on the commodity button and they got put in a box. They are part of my cargo hold taking 4 spaces now.

[supple spear]

grab the box and dump it off ship

like you would a cargo p[ackage, or consume them

[wooden pawn]

260k prospector day 2, got the helix head already

fuckin pog

[mild flume]

Can I dump all my cargo to make room for better ore in the prospector?

Default keybind does nothing

[kind yoke]

i think we should avoid cargo hauling for the week

for it is free fly week and server load is crap

[shadow nebula]

Newest trade info?

[lament ingot]

Anybody want to help me with cargo trade I have a carrack

Why can’t I sell all my Commodity Cargo Value

[grand shell]

is there a way to dump unwanted ores from the prospector?

[shadow nebula]

is there a way to dump unwanted ores from the prospector?
@grand shell don’t mine them at the first place

[grand shell]

true lol but like i wanna drop it to get something better

so i assume theres no way?

[desert terrace]

not without dumping it all

[fair fog]

How to dump everything with prospector?

And i didnt understand about freelancer unlimited caro. Joke?

[primal ether]

@lament ingot The station you're at doesn't buy the commodity you're trying to sell

For the waste, it's because that station has hit capacity on it

So it's not buying more

My experience with the carrack was that filling its cargo bay and selling everything for profit was very challenging due to how large it is

[native night]

Even moreso from all the new players

[lament ingot]

Ahh thanks a lot, Yeah I’m starting to see that now

[primal ether]

https://sc-trading.kamille.ovh/trading/
https://gallog.co/trading/

Use those websites to see what stations buy what / at what price

But they don't tell you what the capacity / status of them is

And expect the obvious outliers (Like Mining 141 > Oli Agricium) to just not work at all due to how popular they are and how limited the supply is

your best bet is probably going to be scrap from GrimHex > Oli

As i don't think it can run out

but it's not very high margin

[fervent saddle]

Need 1 semi-experienced mining operator for 2-player mining on my MOLE. 50/50 split, guaranteed at least 35k-40k PER run. Have Helix II heads.

[lament ingot]

😫👍 thank you very much that was very helpful sir I appreciate it

[gleaming flare]

How much SCU does the prospector have

[slate prism]

Does anyone have screenshots or a video of the ARGO Mole with the headlights ON ?

I'd really like to see them ON

[pallid temple]

@gleaming flare 32

[spice eagle]

@slate prism All I have is this, maybe not what you want 😅

[slate prism]

thats it

perfect, thanks

damn the Mole is sexy

but I know as a solo pilot the prospector would be a better choice

[pallid temple]

Yep

[slate prism]

But what is more important, look good or be efficient

[pallid temple]

Be efficient

Looks are for Origin ships

[spice eagle]

I LOVE the Mole, but solo mining is... awful 😅

I'm hoping to have a Argo Salvage ship in the future, like medium size 😋

[pliant matrix]

is the helix head on prospector enough to mine quantainium? Or should I take consumable too?

[gleaming flare]

Sorry, not really cargo/mining related

but does the prison timer reduce while offline

Yep thanks for the help ay

[sand saffron]

@pliant matrix I mine quant with the Helix I, it takes some practice and some of the larger % rocks are hard/impossible to break reliably. I usually call a friend to come stabilize with another Helix I.

Not tried consumables yet.

[pliant matrix]

thx I noticed I can mine it but damn better run fast after getting some. it blow off all my cargo (full with quantainium, agricium and titanium) and left me with 272uec crap materials xD

delay to come back is way too short. it started ringing when I was going out of daymar and it explode when I arrived at po

[sand saffron]

When I mine Q I break everything before extracting and then extract everything at once and straight to base, regardless of how much cargo I have full.

[pliant matrix]

yeah I should do that from now but I found it first and though I'd try to fill amap

[sand saffron]

Now I just crashed while breaking two Quant rocks, both around 10%

If you mine in the belt around Yela the jump to Grim Hex or PO is pretty fast.

[pliant matrix]

well now either you go out for quant only or to regular ore and fill

[sand saffron]

Depends what you find first

If I am empty I will not break a Quant rock with less than 2.5%, If I have 60% cargo of Laranite or something similar I might break a 1% Quantanium rock.

Sometimes you get 100k or more, sometimes you get 15k 🙂 it balances out in the end.

[pliant matrix]

yeah well I learned my lesson. I came back with 272 for half an hour and a full cargo xD

[sand saffron]

Good lesson 🙂 I have done many mistakes, but after around 2 weeks of mining I have earned more than 1.8 million

[onyx violet]

so im thinking of getting the drake corsair during drake week and the cutlass black in game (i only have a the aurora) I'm looking for a cheap long range flexible ship would this work?

[sand saffron]

And I am a pretty casual player.

[pliant matrix]

if you can buy it ingame take the freelancer instead of the cutlass. better cargo and imo weapons for less destructibles part. Cutlass is fancy but you quickly lose an engine and so...boom dead

@onyx violet

@sand saffron yeah I'd like to farm a little to get a connie and/or a vanguard so I need to optimize my runs

[onyx violet]

the black seems to have some more speed and flexibity to it vs the freelancer seems slower and more toward cargo

[pliant matrix]

they're pretty similar honestly. and what you lose on speed you earn it on durability and fps

cutlass is paper made. you quickly lose the front wings and sometimes an engine which mean you wont fly right and die quick after

I really prefer cutlass design and cockpit and hate freelancer one but freelancer is imo better

[sand saffron]

Cutlass cockpit does it for me, really feel uncomfortable flying the Freelancer.

[onyx violet]

i really like the cargo bay doors on the black and hope you can eventually mount turrets on them

[sand saffron]

But if you are trading the larger cargo space is a deciding factor in favor of the Freelancer. 66 vs 46 is a large profit margin to consider.

[pliant matrix]

I don't think mount turret are planed on laterals doors since those are meant to load cargo

Freelancer is actually more polyvalent than cutlass

But a shitty look 😂

[woeful gazelle]

if I can't properly break a Quant rock I use Optimum, helps a lot

[zealous sphinx]

What benefits does the cat have over the hull c

and what does the hull c have over the cat

[sand saffron]

Hull C has 9x more cargo I think, Cat is perhaps more defensive with armor and turrets, but Hull C is definitely more of a large hauling ship.

[zealous sphinx]

okay

[sand saffron]

Hull B is closer to the Cat

[zealous sphinx]

I was looking at prices and it seemed the C was the closest

Is that just because its concept

[sand saffron]

No sure how that works, all of the Hull series might change once the C is Flight Ready

What might be the largest difference is how they unload cargo, Caterpillar can easily land when fully loaded. Hull C has that design that it look like it needs smaller haulers to empty it. Not sure how CGI will handle that.

[lyric schooner]

yea the cat can land with cargo but hull can only fly to stations

[novel nacelle]

I could see doing a large-haul to a station, then changing to a smaller ship to transport stuff to the surface.

even 'sell' cargo to others to get it to the surface

[solid bobcat]

Heyo! I’ve always wondered abt the role of the ARGO MPUV

It has no quantum right? So it clocks missions around a planetary body? By flying without quantum?

[fair fog]

Are Caves procedurally generated or they just reuse some tiles?

[ornate rock]

they use a certain set of building blocks, don't think they are procedurally generated since there is only a limited number of caves on each planet/moon

[teal crater]

lost 90k again due to a error gonna come back next patch

most have lost around 4mil due to errors after 3.9.0

[paper forge]

is MOLE scanner bugged or nerfed?

[teal crater]

bugged @paper forge

[paper forge]

they even took mining ;<

i was so happy taht mole have finaly 96scu xD

[teal crater]

nah it work but sometimes it just doesn't highlight rocks

[paper forge]

i cant literaly find anything further than 3km

found workaround

tho

[teal crater]

traded my mole for a carrack somedays ago but yeah the scanner was doing funny stuff

not to mention that pilot and laser operator sometimes have the same hud

[paper forge]

they have managed to fix it

wasnt that annoying as it is with scanner 😄

[teal crater]

well i had that problem about 2 days ago

if you multi crew it ofc

[paper forge]

yesterday i did 3 screw operation

no issues whatsoever

[teal crater]

weird

[paper forge]

but its still random tho 😄

[teal crater]

also have you had the problem where to mining laser is stuck aiming to the ground?

[paper forge]

you mean that you see ur crewman are aiming ground but actualy mining?\

[teal crater]

no you get in the laser seat and it aims to the ground and cannot move vertically

[paper forge]

never had this issue

[teal crater]

we had one crew member who broke every laser seat that way

[paper forge]

haha 😄

[teal crater]

every seat he went in it broke the laser

[paper forge]

but im not sure if getting rid of mole was that good idea 😛

[teal crater]

ah i love the carrack

[paper forge]

yeh i love it too but i did upgrade just because i had 2 MOLEs

mining seems to ba safest source of income while the only thing i risk is loosing actual gain, not invested money

[teal crater]

i will probably get a 890 jump if it is available as upgrade

ofc mining is best atm untill the game get's more stable

[paper forge]

even tho you still need base money to trade

doing double MOLE runs were OP

[teal crater]

ik i had runs of 200k in 20 minutes

with the mole

[paper forge]

for me it was 1,5x

cuz of the cut for 2nd operator

[teal crater]

let's hope for miners that they don't nerf quantanium prices

[paper forge]

its pretty balanced tho due to fact its volatile

but

i would love to trade with my carrach

[teal crater]

well they fill up the cargo fast and you find them all piled together

[paper forge]

but im scared for how limmited space in hangars are

and that doors that shut too fast

[dull inlet]

Where do I take the boxes I picked up from a derelict crew contract?

[teal crater]

92% quantanium

gg

[tame elbow]

Mmmm buddy

[novel forge]

is there a guide to buying/moving/selling cargo

[tame elbow]

gg
@teal crater holy shit

[teal crater]

anyone need a mole laser operator or pilot?

@tame elbow ?

[tame elbow]

nah we got it

[warm belfry]

why do you trade moel to carrack rain?

[teal crater]

because it's a awesome ship

[warm belfry]

ye, but mole too 🙂

[teal crater]

it's okay but i prefer the carrack

and if you don't get disconnected a good money maker

[warm belfry]

ye, but cat better 🙂

[teal crater]

i prefer more turrets and hp to a little less cargo

especially when doing illegal trade

[warm belfry]

agree

[turbid plinth]

+1 for the respawn bed too. when the game decides to break your legs

[fervent saddle]

yo what the fuck my cargo just keeps randomly going down as im mining????

like the %??/

is it a bug?

[warm belfry]

maybe

or server crashed

[hollow sedge]

@novel forge Galactic Logistics

[zealous sphinx]

Are the hulls gonna be able to land when open?

[fervent saddle]

yea it wasnt a bug

every time we started mining a rock, it would delete like 3 or 4 percent of the cargo

or like it didnt actually pick up the rock we mined

thats fucking awesome

multiple 15% quantanium rocks deleted

[hoary owl]

Anyone looking for an extra crew member?

[turbid plinth]

picking up quantanium seems to mess up my prospector all over the place

the lights dont go on properly, my cargo goes infinite etc.

@zealous sphinx nope

docking only

[karmic nimbus]

Hi, I did like 10 box pickups and have them all in my ships hull. I went to do the first drop off and the correct package is no longer being highlighted, just the dropoff location. Is there a work around, or will I have to try and deliver each box manually?

[chilly panther]

You can try untracking and retracking the mission.

[karmic nimbus]

I tried that for each mission and no luck on any of them

[nimble leaf]

Hey citizens, I would be pleased if someone could tell me of the Argo Mole scanner's actual state? Have they fixed it or is it broken and finding rocks is painful still?

[karmic nimbus]

fyi I fixed my box issue, I stored my ship and retrieved it, then pulled out each box on the pad and spaced them out ~5ft and the tracking started working again

[gleaming flare]

How much SCU does the prospector have?

and what laser should i buy with a budget of 60k

[hushed abyss]

what ores should i be looking for when hand mining?

[naive maple]

Any Quantanium left in the Verse?

[sand rune]

@gleaming flare 32SCU
I'd save for a helix if you can ~$108k
otherwise the Hofstede ~$13k

Grim hex has both

[dim dagger]

Which places buy widow other than grim hex, are there any?

[zealous sphinx]

Whats the difference between the caterpillar and the caterpillar pirate edition

[gleaming flare]

Thanks @sand rune

[sage juniper]

So I'm just getting into mining and hauling and am a little confused on ships like prospectors and mole which dont have cargo space? Just want to make informed choices on ships.

Maybe site isnt updated idk but they show as 0 cargo on descriptions

[gleaming flare]

@sand rune any idea why the buy button is greyed out?

[naive maple]

@sage juniper they are different types of cargo holds apparently... I have the Prospector... it can hold 32 SCU of mineables... the mole is more, I wanna day at least double that... don’t know the exact number though

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ... That’s awesome

Z_ship mole

[stark torrent]

Argo Astronautics (ARGO)

MOLE

The Argo MOLE (Multi Operator Laser Extractor) is a medium-sized multi-crew mining ship. With three independent mining turrets and comprehensive crew facilities, it is a ship perfect for efficient multi-crew mining. In addition, a large array of 24 mineral pods ensures that nothing valuable will ever be left behind. The MOLE lives by the adage "many hands make for light work"

Role

Mining

Crew

2 – 4

Cargo

96.000 SCU

Length

38.000m

Height

8.000m

Beam

17.000m

Mass

1,169,686 Kg

Combat Speed

128 m/s

Max Speed

1090 m/s

Loaner(s)

N/A

Current Price

US$315.00

Status

Flight Ready

Links

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[naive maple]

96 SCU on Mole

So, triple! The hold of the Prospector

Z_ship Prospector

[stark torrent]

Musashi Industrial and Starflight Concern (MISC)

Prospector

The MISC Prospector has been the universe's preferred mining vessel for solo operators. Featuring MISC's sleek design sensibility and a bevy of upgraded high-tech mining tools, the 2947 Prospector perfectly balances form and functionality.

Role

Mining

Crew

1

Cargo

32.000 SCU

Length

24.000m

Height

7.000m

Beam

15.000m

Mass

137,396 Kg

Combat Speed

150 m/s

Max Speed

1155 m/s

Loaner(s)

N/A

Current Price

US$155.00

Status

Flight Ready

Links

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[sage juniper]

Okay so site is just out dated then. I couldn't mine alone in a mole right? If not, what are my other options besides prospector if any

[slow solar]

You can, it's just not as good. no other mining vessel is out

[naive maple]

You can solo in a Mole... but you have to get out of the pilot seat and move over to the mining seat

[sage juniper]

So just a slight inconvenience?

[naive maple]

Well... as the rocks break, they fall and roll sometimes (especially if you go into the red...) at which point you would have to do more jumping between the turrets and cockpit

Z_ship Orion

[stark torrent]

Roberts Space Industries (RSI)

Orion

The RSI Orion is mankind’s premiere spatial mining platform, fully compatible with all Mark IV Remote Mining Devices, and featuring an onboard refinery and a system of saddlebag-class storage units.

Role

Mining

Crew

1 – 7

Cargo

384.000 SCU

Length

170.000m

Height

50.000m

Beam

50.000m

Mass

26,496,000 Kg

Combat Speed

N/A

Max Speed

N/A

Loaner(s)

Prospector
MOLE

Current Price

US$575.00

Status

In Concept

Links

Pledge store · StarShip 42 · FleetYards

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[naive maple]

The Orion is not out yet though

[sage juniper]

Ah ok thanks.

[sand rune]

3 15% QT rocks and my laser decides to bug out and not charge...

[gleaming flare]

where do i buy food/water

[zealous sphinx]

Whats the difference between the caterpillar and the caterpillar pirate edition

[sage kernel]

any good trade routes? most seem nerfed on the latest patch for cats

[silk birch]

@zealous sphinx the only difference is the skin

[zealous sphinx]

Is the crucible supposed to go up in price?

[proven token]

Crucible is the end game repair ship, so i'd guess yes

[silent zenith]

Am I able to sell minerals I purchased to refineries or do they HAVE to be mined?

[latent pasture]

these 2 know whats up

[fervent saddle]

is there a way or anything to improve the ship's scanner?

it seems to work 50% of the time

[brisk sapphire]

on the prospector your only filling 1 bag out of the 4

[cerulean nova]

Can someone please help me figure out where to sell this Widow? The Hidden Terminals won't open

[novel nacelle]

@hybrid flax ... https://www.gallog.co/commodities/vice/widow/

[grim kernel]

and does that site provide actual real time data ?

like someone can use it for real to calculate accurate profit margin and all ?

[novel nacelle]

I am not sure how often the data is updated - sorry. Maybe others can speak to this?

[desert loom]

its all user submitted

gallog has a discord and discord bot as well if you have more detailed questions for devs

[grim kernel]

okey thanks 🙂

[zealous sphinx]

Would it be smart to upgrade the caterpillar at all or is it fine stock?

[queen palm]

gugug

[zealous sphinx]

Whats the best trade route in right now would you guys say

[sturdy barn]

just want to get other opinions, i was thinking of getting the c2 hercules anybody think thats a bad idea?

[inland phoenix]

It's not a bad ship just that itll be a while before it comes out, after the mercury star runner for sure.

And your loaner is a Starfarer_Gemini

Soooooooo keep that in mind.

@sturdy barn

[topaz garnet]

I have a cutlass, what would you recommend doe next upgrade

For*

[inland phoenix]

What do you want to do or focus on?

[topaz garnet]

A good mix of cargo and fighting

[inland phoenix]

Freelancer max if you want a pve ship that's good for that if not then stick with the cutlass black.

[topaz garnet]

I find that the cutlass cant take damage at all... I'm always dying in it! Stock loadouts are weakkkk

[inland phoenix]

Yeah well upgrade it and it becomes real fucking op.

xD

But Freelancer max is the best upgrade in my opinion under 100 dollars (for the upgrade)

[topaz garnet]

Nice nice will consider that, thanks man

[inland phoenix]

It has the same guns as the freelancer base but more cargo. And it's a bit more tanky.

[gusty lynx]

can i mine with any ship as long as i have the attachments to go with it

like i got the freelancer but i dont want to waste money and buy all the mining stuff to go with it only to find out that i need the prospector to mine

[slim kernel]

Currently only the prospector and the mole can mine

[supple kelp]

can someone explain to me why the commodity i've been watching for the past 5 minutes has decreased from 8 scu to 5 scu on the trade terminal even though no one bought anything from that terminal at the time. And that the commodity never ran out of stock in 3.9 but now i can only buy less than 10 scu worth and never get more than that?

[ornate rock]

commodities are shared between servers in the same region

[wraith tree]

Is there any reason to get the starlifter beyond vehicle and cargo hauling?

[supple kelp]

So is it possible that the large influx of players right now is keeping the commodity at low stock? Or is there a list that CIG made that says which commodities were nerfed?

[worldly trout]

I've wondered that too. It seems unlikely that new folks are messing with things since trading like a stretch for them

[supple kelp]

Or maybe even server problems keeping them at low stocks?

That’s what I’ve been thinking

[worldly trout]

could be. Whatever the case, it doesn't seem like trading is viable any more, between the stock issues and crashes

maybe that'll change when things settle down?

[supple kelp]

I’m hoping to get back into trading when the freefly is over and when the servers are fully operational because I’m thinking having degraded performance is messing with it

I’m hoping the problem is fixed and it wasn’t meant to be nerfed lol

[tepid hawk]

Today the servers are REAL bad

I'm really new to hauling cargo but not so new to mining, are there any decent guides on what to do to maximize profit in 3.9?

[kind yoke]

try not to haul during free fly

😫

[supple kelp]

Yeah for sure

Ever since the start of 3.9.1 it’s just been shit

[orchid fossil]

Whats your guys thoughts on the MOLE/Prospector?

[pallid temple]

Mole good for multicrew mining, Prospector good for solo mining

[zealous sphinx]

Whats the best trade route in right now would you guys say

[woeful gazelle]

✅ not doing trading

[regal notch]

^ 💯

[woeful moss]

but if you feel lucky try this: https://sc-trading.kamille.ovh/trading/

Where do you guys mine with prospector: Moons or Asteroid belt? and what's your hourly average? Please 🙂

[wintry nymph]

Hey guys

What are the advantages for the Prospector or the Mole?

like the Mole costs 315 US$ and you can get for example the Starfarer for 340 US$

So the Mole costs almost equal as the starfarer

but the Mole has less cargo storage is 3 times smaller than the starfarer like the mole is 38,5m long and the starfarer 101m

So can anyone explain me why mining ships are so expensive and what are there advantages?

Thanks for any Answers! ;)

[autumn trench]

With the prospector you can mine solo, the Mole requires more players, or you need to manually move between mining/captain seat

[wintry nymph]

yeah bliz

but why should i buy a mole or prospector when i can buy a starfarer

i have more cargo storage

and its 3 times larger

what are the advantages of buying a mining ship?

[autumn trench]

I am not up to date on the starfarer, all I know it was for fuel, but was years ago

[wintry nymph]

yeah

but why mining ships are so expensive?

when they are so small?

[autumn trench]

money makers

[wintry nymph]

thats all?

also

they are the best ships to make money?

[autumn trench]

I dont know much about cargo, im sure each trade can be good to make money when you know the trick

[wintry nymph]

what?

[woeful moss]

they're a safe way to make money

[wintry nymph]

Mining ships are the best money making ships

[woeful moss]

starfarer cant mine

[wintry nymph]

thats why they so expensive?

[woeful moss]

if you have full cargo and get a disconnect you loose all

yeah

they have more functionality

[wintry nymph]

okay okay

that makes sense now

[woeful moss]

So with a transporter you loose investment and with a mining ship only time

[ornate rock]

ship prices don't reflect their in game utility or value

[woeful moss]

also this ^

Where do you guys mine with prospector: Moons or Asteroid belt? and what's your hourly average? Please 🙂

[wintry nymph]

okay okay than it makes sense now

[autumn trench]

I havent found a Astroid yet that does not disappear on me after I fracture them :S, am I mining at the wrong place?

[wintry nymph]

thanks for the awnser ;)

answer

[woeful moss]

@autumn trench ultimate mining guide says you should mine on moons

because of that reason

[grim kernel]

guys please wanna know when a ship goes up in price and say that i have that ship or the CCU to it, if i decide to melt it, in which case would i benefit from the price increase of the ship ? if i melt the CCU to it or if i melt the ship itself 🙂 ?

[woeful moss]

I'd just like to know what a miner earns averaging one hour of solo mining with prosepector

@grim kernel better ask that in #star-citizen

[grim kernel]

cause i'm torn between many ships 😦

damn was wrong in the channel x)

[autumn trench]

@woeful moss Thanks, I just got a prospector so will try it out and read the guide

[woeful moss]

https://space4games.com/en/games-en/star-citizen-mining/

this is the link

enjoy

[autumn trench]

ty

[frozen moss]

whats a good website to select my cargo runs?

[primal ether]

https://sc-trading.kamille.ovh/trading/

https://gallog.co/trading/

either of those

is there an optimal place to be mining in a rented prospector? I'm on lyria and so far I've found like 10 quantanium deposits but only 1 thats not

and being as its rented I can't mine the quantanium

[frozen moss]

lyria daymar yela are all good mining locations

just takes time finding the right rock and can be boring with a bit of bad luck

[primal ether]

kk just making sure lyria isn't like "the" quantanium place and one of the others isn't "the" agricium place or "the" bexalite place

Also does prospector still pick up hand mineables or was that turned off in 3.9

[frozen moss]

quantanium has been rare for me but its all random i believe

no clue on the hand mineables

[woeful moss]

why can't you mine it @primal ether ?

[primal ether]

Rented Prospector's default mining laser isn't strong enough

[woeful moss]

Oh and that can't be swappeD?

[primal ether]

Cannot edit rented ships, no

[woeful moss]

crap

i once was able to edit a ship rented from the invictus event

I think there is a way

might not be legit but so what 😄

[primal ether]

lol might be a glitch for it but you're not supposed to be able to

and i'm not bout to go drop a bunch of uec on a mining laser that i probably won't be able to use

[frozen moss]

are servers stable enough for cargo runs?

im trying but i keep getting fffed

i got 30k first and i just tryed again and got kicked out of my ship while qt jumping

[novel nacelle]

well, 3.9.1 is WAY more stable than 3.9 - I was able to do 2 back-to-back cargo runs in a show vehicle last night...

I have been trying to figure out how to afford the CAT - I hope it is in the DRAKE show event...

I'll have to ditch 1 of my Freelancers and my Avenger to do it though - plus add a few bucks

I have to mention - the STARFARER (https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/ships/misc-starfarer/Starfarer) flies like a cement block.

[zealous sphinx]

The cat should be in the showcase

[pallid temple]

It is

[fierce junco]

are servers stable enough for cargo runs?
@frozen moss You can do them, but 30k's still occur frequently and still no protection for the investment. Would hope that CIG would implement an insurance system for the cargo, say at the purchase terminal "Insure Commodity Purchase for 5% Transaction Fee" checkbox.

[frozen moss]

thanks

well i just used one of the websites to plan a cargo run. im at the pickup locations and the terminal will not show my ship

my ship is landed on the land pad. do i need to park closer?

i don't understand

i guess i just have the worse luck with this game

[vast bobcat]

Cat or C2 , what’s the way to go here ?

[worldly trout]

I mean, the cat you can fly now

could upgrade to the c2 later if you want

[brave agate]

Trading is pretty pointless right now i am guessing with all the random disconnects i am guessing?

[fierce junco]

its not useless... but definitely needs to be addressed rather asap especially if they want the trader app to gain traction

[brave agate]

Also i an kind of new so forgive the dumb question but if i would acquire the prospector how much can it make on an average run not mining the ore that will kill you

[worldly trout]

it varies wildly

but it is more stable than trading

I've seen ss of folks brining n 30-50k per run, but I don't know how much they had to look for those rocks

[brave agate]

So basically no more profitable than cave diving with a multi tool and novik/pembrooke armor?

[worldly trout]

idk, I hate caves though so

and half the rocks can't be picked up...

plus with a mining ship you can find hand mineables too

[brave agate]

I was looking at it mostly because cave diving usually ends in a crash, disconnect, multi tool quitting out or a bug where you cant stow anything. Very frustrating

[worldly trout]

yeah, I don't bother with it any more

[brave agate]

Just trying to find a decent income with little coin that doesnt take nearly as long or as little money made as deliveries

[worldly trout]

I've had a good bit of luck just collecting deliveries from and to the same place

can be 60-70k for hour, hour and a half

[brave agate]

Eh, my ship takes 10 minutes to get anywhere

[fierce junco]

also deliveries have 0 investment risk

[brave agate]

Thats just in quantum

[fierce junco]

upgrade the quantum drive

[brave agate]

That requires money i dont got lol

[worldly trout]

eh, but you'll have to qt anywhere, to caves and back etc

[brave agate]

I wouldnt even know how to upgrade the avenger titan or what drive i am looking for

[worldly trout]

https://www.erkul.games/

[brave agate]

No less the black or andromeda

[worldly trout]

you can find qt times, sale locations and prices there

honestly the black has a good enough time that I don't think the price to upgrade the qt is worth it

but I actually find qt a bit soothing so I don't mind the time, lol

[shadow nebula]

Great, my cat QT’d into the planet of ArcCorp

Lost 33k aUec

[worldly trout]

yup, trading regularly makes you worse off than you were before

[storm marsh]

good trade route atm?

ive got one for 25kish but

[fervent saddle]

give me all ur secret mining spots

[worldly trout]

you can find lists of which moons have which materials

some are worth more than others obvi, which makes some moons better than others

that's all I know XD

[shut estuary]

IS there a way to find out the cargo requirements of a mission before accepting it?

[worldly trout]

I'm not sure I've ever done a mission with with SCU requirements

if you're talking about delivery missions, you just need some place inside your ship to set a small box down

[hoary owl]

Looking for a group to do missions or in need of an extra crew member (cargo runs and such)...

[shut estuary]

@worldly trout I'm not sure. I've taken a few transport missions but they were always a single box delivered from one vending machine to another. I had assumed that at one point those jobs would lead to transport jobs that would require larger holds and pay more. Is that not the case?

[worldly trout]

nope, the package missions don't escalate

there are some more complicated missions but they generally involve ship and fps combat

[shut estuary]

Gotcha. So is there no "space trucking" gameplay currently?

[worldly trout]

not via missions anyway, you can trade stuff on your own

its a bit risky right now with the cost investment to buy the cargo combined with the instability we're experiencing during this event

[shut estuary]

Thats great info, ty.

[worldly trout]

yw

[proud smelt]

Hello

I love cargo

[proud smelt]

Currently getting used to the game any tips?

[latent pasture]

fastest cargo money route?

I usually just ran metal from Lyria to PO but eh

if anyone has more profitable ideas

[unkempt pier]

is there any money to be made by joining a squad to go mining or is it more productive to subsurface handmine?

[proven token]

you could join a mole crew

probably would make more then hand mining?

[fathom geyser]

Depends, of you join a squad with a mole you can make good money if the mole captain splits the profits fair

Hand mining you can make serious bank of you have the Novikov suit and only go for hadanite

Hand mining is also more fun and involving gameplay if you go spelunking

[unkempt pier]

Is spelunking more profitable than surface mining? You need a certain ship for surface mining right?

[proven token]

prospector or mole yes joner

you can make decent with splunking but i think atm surface mining is more profitable with the prospector

[tired sapphire]

Hey a quick question about the Prospector

There is a hatch at the back of it that has this colmn drop down..whats that for?

[unkempt pier]

Jesus. I didnt realize how much those two cost

I guess if I wanna try it ill join someone elses crew, otherwise subsurface

[worldly trout]

yeah, feels bad they gated one of the more stable gameplay loops behind $155

[proven token]

They definately need more flavor for mining ships

They have like, 100 fighters...

You think someone else would design a personal mining ship

[wheat remnant]

best place to hand mine?

[kind yoke]

scarp trade route CRU L5 to PO

is it good?

12k per progfit per run on the loaned starfarer

investment 40k

L1 is 9k profit

[wheat remnant]

running shipping routes is currently risky due to the crazy amount of 30Ks so trade at your own risk

[kind yoke]

yeh i uds

scraps are cheap

so

the question based on assumption of no 30ks

[brave agate]

found 2 quantanium deposits.. 1st and last time i attempt that. no thanks, not worth it

[woeful gazelle]

@brave agate wtf why

Quantainium is da bomb! both literally and figuratively 😅

[naive maple]

Hey y’all ... can you get a Starfarer to land at Levski?... if so, will they buy all 291 SCU of Diamonds? Or do I have to go to Lorville?

[brave agate]

why, very simply, i cant even extract it, 3 attempts 3 destroyed ships from overloads

it doesnt charge up, then all of a sudden it goes to max overload and explodes.. no thanks

[hollow sedge]

Best place to mine quantanium?

[woeful gazelle]

it doesnt charge up, then all of a sudden it goes to max overload and explodes.. no thanks
@brave agate then your server is laggy as fuck

Best place to mine quantanium?
@hollow sedge imho Yela asteroid belt, however you might need to work on your scanning skills

[teal crater]

@hollow sedge most moons around crusader spawn good amounts

[verbal lynx]

Hey guys any guides for nooby miners?

[wintry pine]

is there still an issue where belt-mined minerals despawn right after fracture before they can be retrieved?

@verbal lynx check the pinned messages in this channel. the 2nd one down is a definitive guide that a lot of people use

cool thanks Ash

[verbal lynx]

Thank you

[woeful gazelle]

tbh the ultimate mining guide - while giving you a decent overview - is way too bloated and loses itself in useless information. and there's some more vital information missing like how to scan properly and how to mine on sight etc

[brave agate]

so i guess there is an impounding bug now, been impounded twice for literally doing nothing wrong. got permission, landed on proper pad, and took off when permitted quickly. 1st time i got impounded leaving after already being 10km from the station. now just got impounded after landiing on the proper pad

[eternal yoke]

tbh the ultimate mining guide - while giving you a decent overview - is way too bloated and loses itself in useless information. and there's some more vital information missing like how to scan properly and how to mine on sight etc
@woeful gazelle
You can tell them. at the end of the site is a link to the discord for missing tips and so on..

[naive maple]

some more vital information missing like how to scan properly and how to mine on sight etc
@woeful gazelle there’s more than one way to scan? I just set the cruise control to the default line, maintain 300-800 altitude and scan max range, fully charged scan, switching to M for the individual boulder scans...

However, in the week that I have been using my Prospector, I have not found not even one single hand mineable! (Only mine Yela and Daymar só far)... is there a different scan for hand mineables?

@vivid sleet thx, I decided against risking my aUEC trading with that unwieldy Starfarer!

[woeful gazelle]

@naive maple yes, if you're in scanning mode and use the mouse wheel, it will "zoom" the scan. x1 is 360°, x2 is 180° (so everything in front of you), x4 is 90° etc. and the higher the "zoom", the farther it will go. I'd usually recommend scanning at x2 or x4 if you wanna go in one direction. but scanning in an asteroid field is rather different than scanning on a surface. the scanner pings go a lot farther as they don't have to travel over "useless" terrain. there's a couple of tipps and tricks to scanning in asteroid fields like how and why you seem to lose your scanning target, how to scan when nearing a target (shorter and shorter bursts) and what to do if the scanner sends you on a wild goose chase which happens when multiple different deposits are in semi-close proximity to another

[naive maple]

@woeful gazelle WOW, that explains so much!... I especially run into the lose scanning target on the surface and wild goose chase as well when in an asteroid field

What are those couple of tips?

And what about the never even finding a single hand mineable?

[woeful gazelle]

they seem to have the ship scanning of hand-minables disabled, so nothing you can do there

except go into a cave 😛

for scanning asteroid fields: when you get closer to the target, you keep spamming the ping. at x2 or x4 you with 50% scan you get around 8-10k range and then when the target gets closer you can reduce the charge even more and spam even faster. this way you'll always have overlapping boxes and make sure you are actually getting closer to your target and don't lose it
IF however you lose it anway, that's an oddity in the scan system as it will try to "combine" multiple seperate clusters of minables by putting the cube in the middle of them - in which case it's possible there aren't any minables in the area of the cube itself. so of the cube suddenly jumps by quite a lot, it usually means you have multiple different deposits near you. I usually stop the ship and then either spam a x2 scan in different directions or just do a 50-70% x1 scan which should pick up anything nearby.
also be vigilant as sometimes you happen to randomly fly by one of the deposits and it'll show up only as a small rock icon on the side of your screen.

[naive maple]

Dude!... thx, that’s great info!... I didn’t even know about the half scanning

Like spamming the scan button without letting it go all the way around time full

[outer wagon]

Did trading get super nerfed? Distilled spirits basically worthless to sell?

[coarse barn]

Where's the refinery terminal at A18?

[woeful moss]

to caterpillar or not to caterpillar, that is the question

[inner pivot]

Like the mining guide does a decent trading guide exist?

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[woeful moss]

@inner pivot buy low sell high

[vocal chasm]

Hi i have a question: How do you find fps mining deposits? Ive been scanning for a long time now with my prospector but i only find the normal rocks for the prospector :(

[idle blade]

@vocal chasm fps mineables are usually found in caves. Caves can be found by accepting an investigation mission

[vocal chasm]

yea but i dont like caves because of several reasons. As far as i know there should be fps rocks on the planet surface

[idle blade]

Certain planets did have hand mineables. Dont rememver which and they may have removed them

[sacred cypress]

the orange one around crusader does have them, found a few while trying out the prospector yesterday

[vocal chasm]

you mean daymar?

[sacred cypress]

yes

[vocal chasm]

yes and ive been searching for them for several hours now i think

[sacred cypress]

they only popped up when i was like 20 meters above ground and less than 500 meters from me i would say

[vocal chasm]

but they pop up right? And what does the hud indicator look like?

[sacred cypress]

popped up when i scan mode, not while doing active scans, and looks like a diamond

[vocal chasm]

ah

ok ill try that

[sacred cypress]

but a warning... i was mining for hours, and i found around 3-4 deposits of FPS nodes

[vocal chasm]

oof

[sacred cypress]

mmmm

god damn 16007... let me log in!

[vocal chasm]

me too

servers down?

[sacred cypress]

proberbly due to the switch for drake?

[vocal chasm]

oh

[sacred cypress]

had a nearly full prospector when the server crashed ><

[vocal chasm]

ah rip

[sacred cypress]

crossing my fingers that i somehow wake up in the prospectors bed

[vocal chasm]

well thats the good side on not finding good ores for 2 hours

i have nothing to lose

and btw the reason for my fps mining obsession is this guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZDmghGG8E4

He brings up some very good points there but i think they changed the fps mining rock spawns.

[sacred cypress]

Heh

[vocal chasm]

i can log in again

are you familiar with the guide?

[sacred cypress]

watching it atm

[vocal chasm]

i can log in again
nvm i can't >.<

[sacred cypress]

hah!

was thinking damn it... why can't he log in...

can*

[vocal chasm]

xD

[sacred cypress]

got to the main menu!

and... i have to create a new char >< sigh bye full prospector...

[vocal chasm]

well i got to the main menu too

just wait for the infinite loading screen

[sacred cypress]

loading... left...right...left...right...left...right...left...right

[vocal chasm]

xD relatable

[sacred cypress]

yeah... the small deposits do not show up on the active scan like it does in the video atm

[vocal chasm]

ahh frustrating

there is just no fast or fun way to grind right now

if i want to buy myself a 350r even if i follow the guide i'll need to mine for 13 hours

i mean the gameplay is kinda nice

but dude i still have a life

[sacred cypress]

ye but i also believe the hadanite is worth less now proberbly around half from what i remember?

heh ye

[vocal chasm]

The second best alternative i know is claimjumpers + a call to arms

[sacred cypress]

ECN distress beacons around hurston gives 10k and are pretty easy and fast, but need to wait for the mission to pop up

[vocal chasm]

but thats pvp right?

[sacred cypress]

nope

[vocal chasm]

oh okay i'll look out for it

[sacred cypress]

it is not the player beacons but something called ECN distress beacon ship under attack, or close to that

tends to be a freelancer or constellation that you need to defend from 1-3 ships, tends to be cutlasses or constellations

[vocal chasm]

oh yea i recently upgraded my freelancers weapons. Those 4 gatlings feel amazing

[sacred cypress]

worst is when it is buccuners so damn hard to hit....

[vocal chasm]

gimbal op ^^

[sacred cypress]

mmm i love my gladius to much 😛

always so satisfying that keeping behind the freelancers and constellations

constellations specially, shooting off one engine at the time

[verbal lynx]

Why do I feel like the auth bit on the sc client is a bottleneck

[sacred cypress]

proberbly is

but i am also pretty sure that server is somewhat hot

[verbal lynx]

Yeah they should look at side scaling

[sacred cypress]

well hopefully they will learn from this experience

[sacred cypress]

oh wow i got in

[vocal chasm]

ah this game is so frustrating sometimes. Not because of the bugs, crashes or malfunctioning servers (i actually don't care about that) but from a game design standpoint. I suppose to generate more sells on ships the grinding is too ineffective. As someone who gets his head ripped off (and rightfully so in this case) by my parents if i spend 300 money on a single video game ship i feel like i'm able to experience only 20% of the ingame content. That's so dumb.

Idk if anyone cares but i just wanted to get that out anyways.

@sacred cypress well i still can't >.<

are you ingame?

[sacred cypress]

yup

[vocal chasm]

ok ill try again

[sacred cypress]

plenty of other people on the server also saying they have been trying for 2 hours and also just succeded

[vocal chasm]

knocking on wood

aaaand it doesn't work

[sacred cypress]

welp

[naive maple]

Hey y’all ... about to give trading a shot... roll the dice with my $350k... so, had some important questions.... when I land at Lorville or Area18, do I store the ship using the terminal at the spaceport before taking the trains? To protect the cargo aboard them? Also, where is the Private Property on Cellin?, does it buy the whole Caterpillar’s load of Diamonds? Does Lorville and/or Area18 always buy every diamond aboard ship?

[vocal chasm]

how good is this site? https://sc-trading.kamille.ovh/trading/

[fervent saddle]

does anyone have an actually good updated site for trading?

gallog prices are just completely wrong

[ocean adder]

Are the hidden terminals all gone except for Grim?

Trying to sell some Widow

[drifting flower]

https://sc-trading.kamille.ovh/trading/

https://fleetyards.net/trade-routes/

[kind yoke]

scaps only sell 1.76 at PO now?

[worldly trout]

does the size 3 rifle not take a size 3 compensator?

whoops, wrong chat

[karmic nimbus]

What are the best moons for mining in a prospector?

[worldly trout]

ok traders: I got some stuff, went to a station. the station says it'll buy it but I don't get a slider or a sell button

what am I missing

maybe it isn't acceptable?

it says "acceptable items" but when I click on it the slider/sell button is greyed out...

I figured it out. I needed to spawn my ship on a pad before the panel would allow access

of course, the internet lied to me about the sell price at this station so I had to sell for the same price I bought it, lol

I can't for the life of me figure out how to get an accurate determination of price short of literally visiting every station first

[naive maple]

Yeah Gallog prices are wrong and that Kamille site is só user unfriendly, I can’t even figure out how to use it... and prices are wrong

I think neither site is bothering with any of it til freefly ends

[worldly trout]

trading really is in a bad spot now

crashes, sell/buy limits, bad data

[naive maple]

Prices adjust based on demand and purchase/sale amounts... bloody freefly + free Caterpillar Drake show = no profit

[kind yoke]

yep my normal L5/L5 to PO route is messed up

L5/L1*

and PO large pad is also on queue every single time

so maybe better of doing other stuff first

[hollow sedge]

Anyone got any tips for cargo run with a freelancer or is it all ruined until freeflight ends? Can only buy tiny amounts

[kind yoke]

ruined now

prices are crap and amount purchasable / sellable is crap

due to the catapillar i think

[hollow sedge]

what about mining prices, thinking about renting a prospector

[drifting flower]

i personally advise against just renting the prospector. the stock laser is utter garbage and can't mine anything over 3k kilos or resistance of around .20

[kind yoke]

if u can afford the mining lazer

[drifting flower]

if you have another person to mine with while you rent. go ahead

[kind yoke]

rmb to take it off before it expire

[drifting flower]

he asked about renting. you can't change anything on a rented ship.

[kind yoke]

i think u can

u can change the mining laser

just rmb to take it off

[drifting flower]

since when?

[kind yoke]

not sure

im able to do so since i started mining

[drifting flower]

nothing happens

[hollow sedge]

aight thanks guys, guess I will risk the 20% chance of glitching in caves for now

[kind yoke]

20% LOL

[fathom wing]

hows the max stock and refresh of med supplies on calliope (rayari)?

[lilac cosmos]

anyone have a guide for finding minable rocks in belts? everything I scan seems to dissapear when I get within 5k

[outer wagon]

!rsistatus

[bitter wraith]

RSI Server Status

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May 31, 2020, 10:39 AM

[fervent saddle]

does anyone have an actual trading site that's updated properly

[desert loom]

How often are you reporting to those sites @fervent saddle

[kind yoke]

i report everytime i trade

so ...

pls help ur fellow haulers

and report when u do

[naive maple]

Last night Diamonds at Mining 048 an Wala was 6.75 per (normally 5.87 per Gallog)... só a typically $84k run is now worth less than $30k

[empty glade]

I've been thinking on the logistics of support ships, like the starfarer, crucible, and cargo transports for a mining operation. And I'm having a real hard time justifying the complexity over just sending the orions back to the station as they fill up. Am I missing something?

This is with a javelin already on station for combat support

[mortal linden]

@ebon moon yes. Rent it and mine, that's it

[ebon moon]

Ok, cool, thanks

[mortal linden]

You can kinda upgrade them via hangar, but you can lose whatever you equipped.

[supple kelp]

Oh shit @vivid sleet is that why every trade route I know of is complete shit right now?

[ebon moon]

If you don't have much money, just do scrap runs, ez, simple, low 30k risk

However, seems 30ks are all time low

[supple kelp]

I have tons of money

The run I do is shit ever since the free fly started

[distant zealot]

What things should I mine with the given mining head on a prospector

[supple kelp]

Titanium

[distant zealot]

Thanks

[woeful gazelle]

well, if you can: Agricium and Laranite but those might be a tad to hard when in high concentrations

[worldly trout]

is there anything that needs to be upgraded on the prospector other than the mining head to get the most out of it?

[undone socket]

any work around in prison where mineral deposit not working???

[orchid smelt]

Can anyone tell me y my mole says it's at 100% capacity at 62 scu when it's supposed to hold 96?

[drifting flower]

Is the rising and lowering of prices based on supply and demand actually partially implemented in the game already?

I've never traded before recently.

I assumed all the prices were still static.

[worldly trout]

honestly it is hard to tell, but I have heard traders complaining about finding out a sell price is lower or the same as the buy price than it was previously

hard to tell if the price changed dymaincally or if cig just changed it with the minipatches that have been happening for this event

[distant zealot]

Dynamic prices have been implemented in some things but not others

[hollow dagger]

can anyone buy cargo right now at all

[digital ferry]

I could @hollow dagger

Is there a maximum limit of how much of an item you can sell?

[sage dragon]

Got 18k in my first mining run, I'm happy 😁

[digital ferry]

👌 Good job

[sage dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-ho-ay-snow-white-seven-dwarf-gif-13794640

[hollow sedge]

anyone know where the hidden terminal on cru l1 is? have never used it here

[karmic nimbus]

I just rented a prospector, anyone else doing rental prospector mining and want to meet up?

[drifting flower]

sure

@karmic nimbus

[fathom wing]

are the tradin consoles not working?

[hollow sedge]

yes I had this problem

[drifting flower]

getting stuck in the character creation screen is back again

[hollow sedge]

lost all my cargo twice cause of this

[neon mortar]

Does anyone know the Hercules C2 loaner? I want a Caterpillar for now but if I buy I miss the Aquila cheaper upgrade path to C2

[wooden charm]

any tips/suggestions for a new player to get into mining? Should I utilize the current loaner freelance/avenger titan or start with my Aurora MR?

[worldly trout]

well, you can only ship mine with dedicated ships

if you want to fps mine you need armor that has storage, like the rucksack

[wooden charm]

ship mine. already sick of this cave seach/mine contract

[worldly trout]

yeah. So you either need a prospector ($155) or a mole ($315)

you can rent a prospector, which is inadvisable because the default equipment is not great and you can't change it

you can also buy a prospector for about 2.1 aUEC

which will stick around until the next wipe

[worldly trout]

are there mining consumables that are worth using?

[hollow sedge]

get the pembroke armor for FTP mining

130k sp, 40% dmg reduction, -75 to +225 temp

more than twice any rugsack, don't think you can effectively stack them anymore

[supple kelp]

What exactly do mining consumables do?

[kind yoke]

wanna get into mining

but i still wanna do hauling

deciding if wanna grind for cat or pros

[arctic blaze]

if ur goal is to make lots of money and fast, you sure wanna get a cat

get a prosp once u got 2-3 cats and can literally print 10 15m in 3-4 days

[granite sage]

Aren't the trade consoles broken right now?

[arctic blaze]

not that i know, but few days since i log in

[granite sage]

Ok. Thanks anyway

[arctic blaze]

if the tarde console is blank you need to change server

[granite sage]

Done that one to many times already

[arctic blaze]

make sure its not putting you on the same server all the times

so change it by changing region at all

[granite sage]

Ooh. Yeah could be it. Thanks!

[hollow sedge]

@arctic blaze what do you mean get 2 -3 cats? Whats the point of having more than1? If you dont mind me asking

[arctic blaze]

arial-lorville= around 10 min

lorville SP-CBD= also 10 min

each additional cat removes the second 10 min wait time

so a run will take 10 min less per additional cat

[hollow sedge]

Sorry im big dumb right now i guess but how would the second cat save 10min?

[arctic blaze]

you haul with a cat, land on lorville, but instead of going to sell, you retrieve another cat, and do another run

for each additional cat u have

then when all the cats are landed and full you sell all at once

and u spared urself a lot of train traverls from TSP to CBD

[kind yoke]

lol i uds ur pt now

thx

[naive maple]

So are the supply demand problems still in place? When does freefly end? When does the Drake show end?

[native night]

Today's the last FreeFly day

[woeful moss]

Today is last drake day and tomorrow freefly ends

[ebon moon]

woohoo

[native night]

Oh yeah, forgot it was extended a day

[primal ether]

is it worth it to run E'Tum or w/e from the various stash houses back to reclamation doing circle missions on box deliveries?

does Reclamation and Disposal Orinth have like a low cap on that stuff?

I dislike how the various trade websites don't show how much the cap is

like they all say run agricium but fail to mention how little agricium you can get / sell

[blissful rain]

Morning, I am debating getting a prospector for mining and have some questions.

1. Does it come with the mining tool and head when bought from the pledge store?

2. If I get a crash in game while mining or en route to depositing the materials, do I lose the materials or is it saved on board my ship?

3.are there specific areas where to mine or any moon will be ok?

[woeful gazelle]

1. It comes with a (crappy) mining head, you have to get the (rather cheap) hand mining tool yourself though

2. you lose stuff if your ship gets destroyed

[primal ether]

So far as I know:

1. Yes.
2. You lose it unless you were docked/stored your ship (Due to not being able to get back to wherever your ship was to begin with)
3. Lyria, Daymar, Yela I believe

[woeful gazelle]

2. oh wait, if your client crashes you can actually try to reconnect through main menu -> notifications -> reconnect to last session, in which case the stuff should still be abord your ship

[primal ether]

Yeah if you crash, but if you 30k drop a fat F in the chat because it's gone mate

Unless you hitch a ride to where it was

But it won't show up on your hud

[woeful gazelle]

I don't think it'll be there still after a 30k

[primal ether]

i think it would be but i've never actually bothered to go check

I just chalk up to "Welp it's gone now"

[woeful gazelle]

I've once manually flown to the area where my cat was and it wasn't there

[lyric schooner]

it wont be there since u will join another server

[woeful gazelle]

exactly

[primal ether]

ah yeah then its rip

[lyric schooner]

for mining head u need to get the helix I asap if u get ur prospector and then u are good to go 🙂

[woeful gazelle]

and for 3.: once you have a Helix mining laser (costs 108k but it's hand downs the best one) you should mine in the Yela asteroid field, before that I'd recommend yela surface

[primal ether]

yeah you wanna mine quantainium and can't do that w/o a helix

Guides online reckon asteroid mining isn't worth because shit despawns before you can suck it all up

They say just go on moons

[lyric schooner]

since i never had anything despawn in yela belt im fine also i prefer it over surface mining cause u can fly around and dont need to pay attention to the ground 😄

[blissful rain]

I heard that you can get a free rented prospector if you buy the vulcan. Can you buy and persist upgrades to rented ships?

[pallid temple]

It's not a rental prospector

It's just a prospector you get to use until the Vulture goes flight ready

A Prospector where you can swap out components

[blissful rain]

Ok cool thanks

What's the eta for the vulcan to be ready?

[pallid temple]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[safe valley]

does anyone here bought ships with ingame money?

feels like long grinding

[kind yoke]

but real money painful

if u gonna play anyway u would still get uec

[blissful rain]

I've heard people losing all there uec, inventory and there ships from a character wipe?

So sounds risky buying a ship

[kind yoke]

yeh sometime it happens

but what can we do with the uec anyways

its gonna wipe one way or another

[marsh osprey]

you don't even need a character wipe, my ingame ship just vanished

log out, log in, no ship

[primal ether]

anyone know the fastest QP to jump to for Reclamation and Disposal orinth

Closest I can find is still 600km away

[arctic blaze]

lorville or everus, om4, hurston, tompkins, cut the qt when at 1700km dinstance from tompkins, you are above orinth within 95/150km

[primal ether]

So go Tompkins from OM4 and cut it at 1700km?

[arctic blaze]

from om4 u can only go hurtston planetside

then, tompkins

1700 is to be safe

best would cut at 1650

[primal ether]

How do you get it to stop reliably because mine never seems to lol

[arctic blaze]

kill the ship energy

with U

[primal ether]

kk

Cheers

[arctic blaze]

also by reading what u asked before, yeah, if the only trade ship u got is a freelancer u wanna do etam, neon runs

but orphanage aint the best stash house

[primal ether]

Not for speed but it's best for profits it looks like

and I'm double dipping on box delivery missions there

I was using Orphanage or Stash House on Yela

[arctic blaze]

its an excellent compro between speed and profit

[primal ether]

one of those depending on missions

[arctic blaze]

in the best case u can do up to 250k profit

[primal ether]

I don't have the capital to even fill my freelancer, just doing it in a cutty blue I rented til I can afford to fill it

[arctic blaze]

but u gotta wait turns at orinth

[primal ether]

I'm on OCE and haven't had issues emptying cutty blue, will I have issues emptying freelancer?

[arctic blaze]

if u dont have problems emptying 40 scu

not much of a diff to 66

still u gotta wait turns

1000 units per drug, per turn

1000 units refresh each 4/7min

[primal ether]

Cutty Blue is 12

lol

[arctic blaze]

eww

[primal ether]

yeah

[arctic blaze]

then yeah u gonna wait some

but once u landed with full cargo at orinth ur safe from 30k

so you could park a fighter there, and do a ecn alert in the meanwhile

[primal ether]

Right

[arctic blaze]

or u can do the easy route which is taking only the two delivieres from orinth to oorpha, buy etam at orpha (max 1000 units) back to sell at orinth and repeat the loop

[primal ether]

Just 1 SCU?

[arctic blaze]

renting a connie to do arial-lorville legals is also good

its not 1 scu

its 10

[primal ether]

ah right

100 units = 1 scu

[floral anchor]

instead of drug runs if you can get your hands on a cat can run scrap to PO

[primal ether]

Not gonna work rn with everyone and their mother renting the free cat during drake day

[arctic blaze]

and how do u get a cat

u need to grind for it

obviously the target is a cat

[primal ether]

how much cargo does cat have ?

[floral anchor]

576

[arctic blaze]

566

[primal ether]

gotcha

Does Oli always buy full cargo hold no matter what?

and does everywhere always dispense full cargo hold of it ?

[floral anchor]

of scrap yeah

[arctic blaze]

u do scrap if u dont have more than 70k to invest

even so, its a waste of time

[floral anchor]

yeah

[arctic blaze]

u can do more by ecn alerts and bounty around hurston

[primal ether]

Yeah so far my go tos have been box missions from Hurston > Orphanage

[floral anchor]

once you can invest 330k do dimond runs to lorvelle cbd

[arctic blaze]

reach 400k and start lara-tita routes arial lorville

[floral anchor]

yeah thats about the best you can get

[arctic blaze]

the best is a full lara cargo that is equal to 1.4m invest witha profit close to 400k

[primal ether]

How much does cat cost to buy off showroom floor ?

[arctic blaze]

but thats really hard to get

[primal ether]

whats the grind target for that

[arctic blaze]

4.7m

[primal ether]

ew

[floral anchor]

exactly why i didnt count it lol too hard to fill cat with it

[arctic blaze]

sometimes bezdek and lathan freak out

and have basically infinite amount of them

but happens rarely

[floral anchor]

yeah i know lol

[primal ether]

i don't wanna risk longer traderoutes because of 30k risk :S

[arctic blaze]

some say its a bug some say they do it on purpose

[floral anchor]

i dont mind XD

[arctic blaze]

arial-lorville is the shortest route u can get

[floral anchor]

20 min oer run

[arctic blaze]

yet the most profitable

20 min if u got only one cat

[floral anchor]

i use my cat and carrack

[arctic blaze]

or 10 per additional cat plus another 10 for the sell train travel

[floral anchor]

if its timed well you can have asmeny as you want still in the 20 min time frame

anyway theres my 2 cents worth

[arctic blaze]

10 minutes is only to travel to cbd and back

[primal ether]

need 400k for that and a cat you said ?

[arctic blaze]

i have friends who bought 5/10 cats only to avoid that

[primal ether]

how bad is it gonna be since everyone has free cat rn

[floral anchor]

no idea lol

[arctic blaze]

enough to stop trading

[floral anchor]

havent been on yet

[arctic blaze]

was terrible already with the free carrack

[primal ether]

yeah lol

[floral anchor]

that was bad XD

[primal ether]

thats been my theory with the orinth/orphanage runs

[arctic blaze]

so unless they manually increase yield

[primal ether]

double dip on missions + still make a bit extra

[arctic blaze]

dont bother with it

[primal ether]

I wish orinth sold shit to sell at orpha

[floral anchor]

any way i would trade for the next 2 days or so XD

[primal ether]

but seems orinth sells nothing

[floral anchor]

wouldn't

[arctic blaze]

it does basically

orinth gives you at least 2 mission delievies to orpha

[primal ether]

yea if you count the boxes

yeah

[arctic blaze]

for 30k

aint bad

considering that there u can buy etam to sell back at orinth

and repeat

[primal ether]

ik that's been my primary money maker to outfit my 325a

[arctic blaze]

take also in consideration the possibility fo renting a connie, to do lara runs arial-lorville

can yield 40,50k per run

[primal ether]

if its no faster than orpha - orinth might not be worth it due to risk ?

since this is about 60k per run for same amount of time (20m or so)

[arctic blaze]

drug runs are tedious

the window u can get 30k'd

is big

[primal ether]

ah fair

[arctic blaze]

also u gotta wait turns at orinth

so no, i dont it would be faster than selling 96scu of lara

but then, you first have to find 96scu of lara

unlikely to happen with everyone having a freecat

[primal ether]

I was just gonna do 10scu of E'tam like you said

Pick boxes up at orinth

Run to orpha

[arctic blaze]

just use the free-freelancer

[primal ether]

pick 10scu of e'tam up run it back repeat

[arctic blaze]

that ship was made for drug runs

[primal ether]

Downtime due to waiting on refresh would be a drainer

if it caps at 10scu then i'll just run that much

60k round trip run

[arctic blaze]

10scu per drug

[primal ether]

not great but also not awful

ah yeah good idea

I can't afford that atm

[arctic blaze]

means if u go at paradise instead of orpha

u can get both 10scu neon 10scu etam

at best prices in the game

[primal ether]

but then miss out on the double dipping on box missions would margins be worth ?

• the risk of 30k as u said

if i 30k on box side i lose nothing but time

[arctic blaze]

same goes for orpha

[primal ether]

only risk is on the return journey

[arctic blaze]

the time required to go there is equal to the time required to reach para

the difference is that u need to know where paradise is

so far havent seen a single quest leading there

[primal ether]

yeah never heard of paradise

[arctic blaze]

its the easiest stash house to reach manually

both day and night

[primal ether]

can you rent cats?

or is connie best cargo ship to rent

and which one ? Andromeda?

[arctic blaze]

connie be the biggest one to rent normally

without events a shit liek that

[primal ether]

yeah

not even gonna bother with it with every cunt having a free cat rn

[arctic blaze]

but u dont wanna rent it if u have to travel between main planets systems

[primal ether]

but in a few days when all those cats are used up

[arctic blaze]

it comes with a bolon that is painfully slow qt

but if u travel between hurton, arial-lorville its no issue

[primal ether]

gotcha

any other routes you think would be good and less traveled during this free cat meme ?

or am i gonna do this box / drug run thing until the cats are gone

[arctic blaze]

drugs ^^

[primal ether]

kk lol

[arctic blaze]

you should also try and find an org that can help you with shared trade runs

[primal ether]

?

Shared trade runs?

whats that, where you run opposite ends ?

[arctic blaze]

basically guys that own several cats help the ones without any

but a shared trade run can also be use to mitigate eventual money loses by 30ks

[primal ether]

how so

[arctic blaze]

everyone uses the same ship to trade in order to yield similar profits within similar times

then the whole group profit gets shared and divided at the end of the session

so if someone got 30kd

[primal ether]

ah everyone on different servers ?

[arctic blaze]

he still gets his money back by the others

that would be best

[primal ether]

I don't think OCE has many

I know that when I disconnect from this one intentionally I have a high chance of getting right back on it

[arctic blaze]

i do believe that every proper trading focused org does that

[primal ether]

and i see frequently the same names all over the place

[arctic blaze]

considering that trading right now is the only fully semi-functional gameplay

[primal ether]

could just be because of low population tho

Right

I am mostly interested in combat, not trading, but combat pays out soooo little compared to mining and trading

It's actually comical

[arctic blaze]

combat as for pvp basically doesnt exist

is something u do once u dont have anything else to do