i tried cargo and wasnt enough cargo to run cargo
#industrial-professions
prime flint
you can buy the Helix II upgrade
warm belfry
ye, but the inventory listed 3 turret with same laser
woeful gazelle
did you crash into something? I've once had it that my prospector's laser didn't work as I collided with a rock while it was dark
try claiming the mole and see if it works afterwards
@prime flint Drake is a manufacturer, are you talking about the Caterpillar?
warm belfry
need i 3 Helix II laser for Mole, or need to combine?
trail horizon
Does the Argo Mole do better on fuel consumption in space with asteroids vs planet side? Anyone have experience with the Mole?
unique lion
Any ship would do better in space, as the thrusters don't need to be constantly firing to keep floating
@warm belfry front laser is Size 2, side cabins are size 1
Why? I have no idea. As there's almost no difference between size 1 and 2 for mining lasers other than a very, very slight range boost
trail horizon
I just wasn't sure if the physics of the environment affected consumption (as it should) versus a static fuel drain for all environments. i.e. How "realistic" was fuel consumption in SC.
unique lion
From what I remember the range boost is only a couple hundred meters. And you're always in an asteroids face anyway
So why a range boost of all things
Yeah
@trail horizon it's based on the output of the thrusters
The least fuel efficient place to fly is Hurston as it's 2G's of gravity
Harder the thrusters work the higher the fuel consumption
warm belfry
@unique lion thanks, and what is the recommended laser setup?
unique lion
So in space, unless you're constantly boosting, it isn't much of an issue
Probably the Helix on the front and the mid tier ones on the sides
Not aware of any rock that would take 3 helix's to break. So why waste 300k on 3 of them
But I could be wrong. Dunno what this new ore entails as far as extracting it in 3.9
Well, I guess the helix will let you take 3 consumables in 3.9
As opposed to 2 with the midtier or 1 with stock
So a mole with 3 helix lasers would have 9 consumable slots.
So there's that to consider
woeful gazelle
@prime flint the Cutlass Black doesn't have an overly large cargo hold, so yes, you'll very likely make a lot more UEC with mining than running cargo with the her. The Caterpillar is a bit different here as she has over 10 times the cargo hold of the Cutlass.
unique lion
imo, in most cases no. But there are case scenarios like running into a rock with an already high instability, combined with a helix makes for a rough time
Or being able to lower the resistance to crack it with less power would help
I think the last one is a straight boost to laser output
pliant matrix
I'am also waiting for playing again. Who knows if they wont decide a last minute wipe xD
prime flint
cargo is absolutely not worth it right njow with the 30k crashes and other risks involved for the turnover profit
ill stick to mining
regal notch
💯 
👍
tame elbow
everytime I take the boys out to mine asteroids
the rocks despawn
after we fracture them
I've given up on space mining
sharp elbow
Is there any good cheap transporter or hauler I could use to transport cargo. Also that has a quantom drive
regal notch
@sharp elbow Titan , Cutlass , freelancer , freelancer max , stafarer , carrack , caterpillar
half grotto
Dude just copied and pasted half of the cargo capable ships lmao
@sharp elbow what's your price range/cargo capacity goal?
naive maple
Hahaha... Cutlass
floral flare
What's the website for checking where to buy and sell things like ore and scrap?
regal notch
Dude just copied and pasted half of the cargo capable ships lmao
@half grotto Ehi I manually wrote them by memory .
and they are from lowest to highest in price $
unique lion
Except for the Starfarer, Carrack, and Caterpillar
Order would be Caterpillar, Starfarer, Carrack if sorting by price
regal notch
rip for 5$ i putted them in wrong order lol
safe rose
How long would I need to rent a prospector for in order to break even on rental costs?
unique lion
If you know what you're looking for and have decent RNG, less than an hour for a 24 hour rental
jovial berry
nope
safe rose
Please help me 😦 I spent most of my UEC to rent a prospector and now when I'm fracturing rocks, I never get anything out of them...what am I doing wrong?
karmic widget
Don't fracture when the rock's outline is purple.
Switch to extract mode (right click by default) to get juicy minerals out of the rocks when they're purple. Purple means they're small enough for extraction.
safe rose
Ohhhh
Thanks
Ohh this isn't good. I haven't gotten anything yet...everytime I get to the last chunk, I go really slow with the laser but it still explodes...even on rocks where I can barely get the bar to move, suddenly I shut off the laser and watch as it keeps going up for another 2-3 seconds
patent pagoda
That sounds like severe de-sync or lag
safe rose
Should I only be going for high value minerals?
brittle cove
hey they fixed the caterpillar cargo size
safe rose
Oh this is terrible...I mined until my cargo was fulll and went to sell and it says cargo is empty...
proven token
Cajtarth try going for agricrium
Also there are two terminals, make sure you are at the right one
And Selling.
PO / Yela is a good run
patent pagoda
Magda in the blue/white lines is best Agracium all day. Prove me wrong.
undone ibex
can you mine that with the rented prospector or do you need to upgrade the lazors
i have no clue
all i know is that ive already wasted my hard earned money for renting a prospector that i was not able to retrieve at any station
i hope 3.9 will fix this
chrome dust
Is quantanium available throughout stanton, or only native to microtech and it's moons?
jovial berry
found one rock on cellin
rich bane
Seems like prospector got little tuch at 3.9 in color wise and I think now we also have new glass canopy with droplets effect and etc.
rich bane
I have the same problem :D
rich bane
jovial berry
seems like scanners are "weaker" now
warm belfry
guys, Mole got more cargo in 3.9?
rich bane
Heading to yela to find out
warm belfry
i rememben 8000 SCU in 3.8.2
warm belfry
*80 SCU
jovial berry
its 96 now
rich bane
Tried in calliope but didn't find anything
jovial berry
can't find anything unless i'm 2500 away from it
jovial berry
yeah... sadly i'm on cellin atm
warm belfry
scanner works weird on mole
rich bane
But yah scanner range is twice as low as it's used to be
rich bane
Actually wait
It seems changing scan radius works now
I tried on 8x
Detected one around 5km
Cause we miners used to scane things on 1x or 4
And still detect minable far away
Mabey intentional, mabey bug I guess more testing needs to be done
jovial berry
if you are still mining please try and check it and @ me when you figure it out
coral kernel
How do you store items in personal inventory now I’m mining but I don’t know how to store it
jovial berry
i've just quit cause i couldn't do anything so i meh
warm belfry
now, on yela i don't find shit
rich bane
Found a cluster on yela 6 of them around 3 k mass, and all of them have 2-5 percent quantanium
rich bane
Yah
undone ibex
what is it worth?
warm belfry
is the value of ore changed in 3.9?
rich bane
I think it's 3-4 times of value of bexalite
There is a post on reddit, some info about mining and value on quantum mabey find it usefull
But yah, seems scanner is quite weak now.
hollow sedge
Be aware that they seemed to have really changed thruster power too. My prospector loses altitude if I have the nose or either side pointed straight down now while in VTOL mode.
rich bane
Yah , I noticed that to
It effect even more on planets with higher gravity
LMAO my ship dissapeard middle of the mining, fell to the ground
marsh osprey
does anyone wanna group for mining?
lunar prism
if anyone needs someone to fly their ship, run their cargo just pm me
wintry crag
looking to join someones mining crew
or i have my own mole if anyone wants to join me
royal raptor
Is it normal for the Cat to be "blown" around in Lorville?
opal crow
welp mining is now 10,000 times harder ... rip my career as a miner ..
agorcium shouldnt decay and blow up ur ship .... or atleast if it does to give more than 10 minutes to sell it
proven token
Making mining harder? Laaaame!
opal crow
scanner .. barley can find anything anymore and when it takes a good 5 minutes just to get out into orbit , then it leaves litterly 5 minutes to carefully jump , and land and get to the computer to sell ... like you need to be speedy gonzalas to be able to make anything ... not to mention my engines keep surging suddenly now
opal crow
like why would someone buy an argo mole when i cant even fill up half of my prospector? oooof sry im salty af right now xD
also why is my prospector black?
undone ibex
I wouldn't complain. Black prospector looks nice
opal crow
its useless when you cant even fill it up ontime ... dispite that im not even mining for quantanium
rich bane
Damn mining is actually quite painfully right now
opal crow
its completely pointless to do .. 10 mins is too small of a window to get everything done
rich bane
Also second run where my ship randomly dissapeard mid flight lol, didn't even mine quantum
Only agricium
prime flint
Quantanium is better than bexalite? where does it rank in price?
forest drift
we should get all the catterpillars in a server and all meet up in po
solemn dew
anyone know if you can buy mining lasers in new babbage?
vestal breach
I, too, would love to know if there's a spot for purchasing mining lasers in NB.
magic warren
@solemn dew @vestal breach yes. It's in the commons. There are two smaller doors that lead into small rooms with covalex shipping machines, refinery consoles, and an NPC and such (away from the outside walls, and this is in the section with the floating planets where Omega and Centermass are), and then they are mirrored on the other side of the area but those doors are closed. I believe its on one of those, there is a pair of Shubin Interstellar consoles outside a locked door. They sell lasers, mining consumables, macflex rucksack suits and I think the ground mining tool as well. Basically, all your mining needs.
rich bane
So boys and girls, how's the mining going since 3.9 , find it enjoyable :D?
royal raptor
I just lost my aUEC bought Cat.
empty glade
How's Microtech mining? Looking to get away from Yela-PO due to griefers/rammers and what not. Haven't lost a load of ore yet, but I know I will one day
I was doing Delamar, but I hear Asteroid mining is still broke
candid oyster
Not sure if it changed in live, but ptu had some agricium and the quantum stuff there. I can't tell if the ammounts were good because I didnt' have enough time for some variation in rng
But to be honest, getting it to new babbage is kind of a pain compared to oli. You have to fight with the atmo, elevator, another elevator, tram and long walk to the terminal
empty glade
Ah. I see. My PC specs aren't the best so I might avoid it. Thank you.
candid oyster
I wonder if there were any changes to arccorp/lyria
It has the good materials and hand minable hadanite deposits, but they completely ruined the rock density with new planet tech
rich bane
Well, yesterday I did 3 runs, and in every run my ship just dissapeared and I flell to the surface while I had my gargo around 70 percent pure agricium
So it was bummer and I gave up and went to sleep
empty glade
Hmm. Really hope I don't end up having to skip this cycle
But it doesn't sound very promising for mining at the moment. I'll give it a try though
rich bane
Well scanner is also acting wierd
Little nerf is understandable
But it seems it's more like 90 percent nerf
empty glade
On the other hand, this is a test so maybe I can actually be of some assistance with QA. Easy to forget it isn't a demo
empty glade
If you mean ship scanner, that might be intended. IDK. Is it worth getting out to mine those?
empty glade
I may end up swapping my MOLE out for one of those with how things are going. I just wish the cargo space was a bit higher
rich bane
Now it's more like 15 minutes to find first good agricium rock
Right now with the current state, I think it's almost impossible to fill up mole lol
I bet few mole owners are quite salty atm
Since finding ores are quite hard atm
At least tried on yela
- ship keeps dissapearing without a warning
Even if you don't mind quantanium
At least for me
Mine*
empty glade
At least the Freelancer is gone(I think) so maybe it will be less of an issue
proven token
Mining was too lucrative i guess?
jovial berry
haven't found any fps minables with prospector or mole at all
i guess they did break something
rich bane
I believe yah, scanner is broken
coarse barn
Does it help with mining if you upgrade the powerplant on your prospector?
rich bane
Don't know that, haven't tried it , but I doubt it has any effect
jovial berry
no, it doesn't
warm belfry
yesterday with mole we can only make like 80k
and we ran out of fuel
just do 1 run on yela, but we just fly like 10 min to find a fuckin rock
jovial berry
likearainbow
go
daymer
can actually spot rocks
without scanner
a tad better
but hard to find good rocks
rich bane
Prospector flies like a boat now too :D
rich bane
First when I booted up I tired calliope, i actually had to fight constantly to keep up altitude
coarse barn
That's weather not the ship
I think atleast
like it only seemed when there was alot of snow to me that it did that
empty glade
Kinda wish they had fixed asteroids before adding that though
empty glade
I just do drive bys on most asteroids. Fully stopping is only needed if they have something valuable
The first rule is to absolutely never aim right at your target
coarse barn
Do a flip and burn Mojiko that's how I stop in zero g
empty glade
That was what reports were telling me. After breaking one the rocks vanish in seconds
rich bane
That's why I never really tired asteroid mining
coarse barn
I just botched a landing with a shit ton of good ore........
empty glade
I'm almost waiting for the day we try to swap seats in our moles and they fall to the ground and explode
rich bane
:D
coarse barn
I mean I don't see why though when you consider surely the ship would have the ability to hover by itself for a short time or atleast self land
empty glade
Well either that or disable the lasers if nobody is in the pilot's seat. Cause it can't be intended that the MOLE is best utilized by one person
coarse barn
True
rich bane
When I first tired mining at 3.9 and suddenly randomly my ship dissapeared and I fell to the surface at 200 meters, it was funny at first
coarse barn
Also just curious what should my turnaround be with a prospector each run roughly?
rich bane
But 3th time it got old fast
coarse barn
I've been doing 20k most of the time
Just got the Helix head or whatever it's called
empty glade
Did we actually keep our credits this time?
rich bane
Well I did
empty glade
Cool. I only had like 200k but it's better than starting with almost nothing
rich bane
Idk if it's been reported but something triggers prospector to despawn mid flight
I'll try mining again after like 2 hours
And test
empty glade
Maybe 3 for me. Download speed is terrible here
coarse barn
lol the legs from my blown up prospector is here on the pad perfectly landed
empty glade
"Landing complete. Have a pleasant stay."
coarse barn
It's saying it's in the hangar and all that and I can't claim it so idk what's going on
so maybe it didn't go boom in the game's mind and I can still sell my ore?? 🙂 hopefully?
coarse barn
IKR
rich bane
Damn I was actually so happy when 3.9 drop :D
Still am thought, but it's sad for mininers. I guess more time to explore new Babbage then
empty glade
I would almost try cargo runs, but the risk is too great. With mining, I'm only not profiting, with cargo I stand to lose much more than I would have gained.
rich bane
Well I think for proper cargo runs and uec/h caterpillar is needed
empty glade
True. Wouldn't have been a problem for me if I went that route
rich bane
If mining ends up really on bad state
I might melt my prospector and get cat
But I like mining though
rich bane
Mole is sexy looking ship, but I believe prospector still beats it at pure money making speeds
Mole can be just fun with friends
Cause mining can get lonely sometimes
rich bane
You run out of fuel before finish filling up :D?
jovial berry
yup
rich bane
How much refueling cost?
jovial berry
i hope they fix the range, if they do that
i don't mind the mole
cause i always run in prosceptor and have 2 peeps in the mole
rich bane
I never got below 25 percent on prospector
rich bane
Yah usually it's like that
But I think things may be different this patch now :D
Since one run may take 2 hours
rich bane
If you don't rely on eyeballing
But since ship keeps dissapearing randomly, it's a whole new problem
jovial berry
haven't had my ship go poof yet
but
only place you can eyeball is daymer
without strugglin to much
XD
echo delta
The New mineables are only available on the new Moons??
rich bane
Try eyeballing on cellin , it's next level :D
royal raptor
... has anyone lost their aUEC cat too?
burnt echo
quick question - I'm at New Babbage, Commons with some mined ore - can you sell mined here ? I've found cargo terminals, but can't seem to find any terminal that allows me to sell mined ore - any suggestions?
coarse barn
Go to MT planetary services refinery terminals are there
When you walk into the plaza it'll be on the right then your first left
burnt echo
ah - okay, will try to find. many thanks!! (blind citizen)
thanks Aero - worked a treat 😄
pliant matrix
great! now to grab the stuff on the floor you lose your mining tool on the floor. and sometimes it get stuck there xD
proven token
Minung profits were nerfed a bit in 3.9?
flat citrus
Any news on the RSI Orion?
empty glade
Not lately as far as I know.
woeful gazelle
ok, Yela Belt mining are the new big bucks imho. I just got a mediocre rock with Quantainium and filled er up (didn't have much time so didn't bother to go for quality). 21 minutes for 75k minus 3k for a batch of optimum. that's around 200k per hour. on a somewhat average run.
icy quarry
So, I know 3.9 has only been available for about a week. But are any of the trade tools updated for it? I've seen a few locations with way different commodities than in 3.8.
empty glade
Don't the asteroids vanish quickly though?
I'm nearly there on update
If Quantanium is the new hotness, I'll have to drop the MOLE for a prospector. Wouldn't care, except apparently we get to keep money now
woeful gazelle
Nothing vanished for me. Asteroid mining is a bit desorienting with the 360° in all directions but I'll try to always align myself with Crusader for orientation
I've heard that some asteroids vanish when you crack em, but so far it hasn't happened for me, and even if it did once in a while, it's still a boatload shipload of money.
empty glade
I'll try it
woeful gazelle
definitely need a helix and a bunch of Optimum though, so come prepared. Brandt might also work, want to give that one a try later when I have time
empty glade
Guessing that's a new consumable?
woeful gazelle
yeah, both are. Optimum seems to be the best so far. Brandt also seems to have potential. And Rime since it's instant. The rest seem kinda trash or very niche.
(hopefully I got the names right)
empty glade
I'll check after I get passed firstload
woeful gazelle
and while you can crack open a big rock with Quantainium with a Helix and a bit of finesse, it's pretty much impossible for the smaller chunks without blowing them up, so you need help with the consumables
proven token
I guess they are eventually adding in a huge astroid field, they teased it in a recent video
Pretty cool, an area you cant quantum travel through due to astroid density
empty glade
It may take hours to escape from New Babbage :(
Looks great though
marsh osprey
how do you use consumables while mining
woeful gazelle
ALT+1 2 or 3
marsh osprey
thx
fast summit
did they change anything with resource stock resetting? every time I go to buy a resource it says "insufficient stock", I try purchasing a lesser amount at it says the same thing
I thought it came back all at once
mighty hamlet
anyone else having issues with the mole's scanner not always working and showing the boxs until your right over top of it
rich bane
Yup knows issue, scanners seems to be extremely weak right now
mighty hamlet
its on and off for me
rich bane
It's either intentional or bugged, so all we can do right now is to report and hope for the best
mighty hamlet
yeah ive noticed
rich bane
Luckily it's been already reported
mighty hamlet
cool im gonna report too
rich bane
Yah that's the best we can do right now
cerulean viper
anyone know where to sell slam now?
floral flare
Is the mole equal, less than, or greater than the prospectors mining performance being single manned?
I know if I jump on a mole I have the option for multi-player when I want. But single player is 60-70% of my play time and I don't want to spend more to come out with worse results.
rich bane
Prospector all the way , if you solo
Mole is nice yes, it looks sexy more cargo space
Mabey in future it even more better when we have less crashes , so we have to make longer runs when new systems will be added etc
But soloing mole may get old fast
Cause you have to get up from seat climb a ladder and go to the mining head etc
Worst is when rocks are on mountain, and rocks will start to slide down
More time wasted
You get the point
floral flare
Oh gotcha I didn't know the main turret wasn't connected to the pilot seat in a mole.
rich bane
With prospector you do everything in one seat
And you more likely get crash before you fill up Mole
But with mole you can be less picky though, and come even, since you have more cargo space
- Mole burns lots of fuel
floral flare
I think the seat thing alone makes the prospector the clear choice. Thanks for all the help
rich bane
You welcome
floral flare
What's the SKU on a prospector? Wiki is outdated and says 128, website says 0.
warm belfry
40
i think
prosp 40, mole 96
about prosp i'm not sure
i rented it for 7 days, but i lost because of the patch 🙂 😦
prime flint
Anyone else getting stuck inside their prospector chair?
I landed on PO and i cant go in to sell my shit
will i keep the cargo if the ship is put inside?
as in the mining materials?
floral flare
I pulled the trigger on it. It's 32.
half grotto
For clarification, the listed SCU on the Prospector and Mole is exclusive to mined material, and cannot be used for point to point trade runs
agile crow
How common is the Prospector disappearing bug? I was about to buy one
prime flint
mate my prospector is so fckin buggy
like
i just called it out of storage and the alarms going off as if i have quantianium onboard still?
anddddd it just blewup
agile crow
😐
Stuck seat, volatile cargo, and short radar range are in the Issue Council. I don't see any disappearing Prospector issue reported.
Okay, here's a disappearing ship issue. Looks like a variety of ships reported despawning.
static cosmos
So if you mine in space, the fracture rocks disappear quickly?
prime flint
So ive heard
kind of really upset about the 3 prospector bugs im having
stuck in chair, exploding with no cargo (upon retrieval) and sometimes stuck in the cabin door doesnt open... im new like 7 days new
this would be fixed soon I hope? or a month or 2? guess its hard to ask but maybe someone with alot of ingame time would know the devs response and fix time roughly
mighty hamlet
mole is way better imo then prospector
and you can easily solo with the mole with a helix head
the ladder is right behind the captains seat
and you make allot more creds per run
i hate the scanner on the prospector
chrome dust
That goes into account with the speed at which you do runs. You're able to multiple runs during the time you do one run in a mole. Easily making equal if not more money in the same amount you would on a solo-run in a mole.
rich bane
I believe you, but I think in current game state prespector is better
I would love to mine with mole and do pure agricium run
But I'm afraid of getting game crash before I'm able to sell it
mighty hamlet
i do agricium runs in my mole often just ran one on aberdeen
empty glade
Not sure I can escape New Babbage. I don't load the ground fast enough after the tram stops to exit and not end up under the city
chrome dust
Not really the correct chat @empty glade but do you have SC installed on a regular harddrive by any chance?
empty glade
It's an SSD, but external.
I will probably have to reset and pick another zone
Or await 4.0
Would if I had one
Just going to deal with it until it makes sense to upgrade. Ty
opal crow
this is interesting .... everytime i extract ore i lose what i already had ! ffs https://gyazo.com/9197010778c0e5991fce85c94d9ae14b
as if mining isnt hard enough
fossil tree
is it common for asteroids to just disappear when you break them?
floral flare
I'm extremely new to mining. Just got a prospector. Hit one medium sized rock on yela. Filled my 32 SKU. is that normal?
warm belfry
i'm lucky now, or maybe the server maintenance make maybe mining good again ?!
@floral flare it's bad, maybe you pull in inhert material?
you only mine agricium
this is a 3.8 sheet, but it's maybe good in 3.9
for price and some guide
floral flare
Gotcha. It was mostly aluminum. Just figuring out how the mining mechanic works and all. Just didn't expect to fill off one rock.
floral flare
It was purple....
warm belfry
ooe,y so you need to puck up the purple ores
🙂
you will find usual agricium
with prospector you can make 60-80k full of agricium
fossil tree
is it worth slowly upgrading your mining laser or just save for best one?
fossil tree
i keep finding rocks with like 14% agricium, then i break it and none of the small pieces have any ....
warm belfry
hm
sometimes it's happens
mining is definitely better after server maintanance
i hope it will be permament
worldly anchor
hey as far as mining with the multi tool seen a youtube video he basically did investigation missions
is this a practical method ? do all investigations lead to caves ?
pseudo wave
Does loveridge not have laranite/agricium anymore?
fossil tree
ive done 2 runs with prospector and no issues here
static cosmos
Not yet
been running it all day trying to recreate some other issues
ill write those down and look out for them
warm belfry
fuck that fuckin 30k error
neon obsidian
hello, someone know if we can sell some cargo at New Babbage ? if yes, what ?
rich bane
Tired asteroid belt mining somewhat for the first time (heard if was broken) , quite annoying, getting lots of pings, but rocks dont even exist there
Actualy managed to get 18% larnite deposit and then 14% quantanium both around 50 purity
half bolt
i got shot down going to a mining facility. on one of the new moons
rich bane
But i got server disconection before i managed to deliver it
pliant escarp
errant lark
so now that the rental prospector is like useless bc you cant upgrade the mining laser, are there any other options im missing?
supple kelp
Do cargo instead
errant lark
yea ive been doin it, just the risk and how bad the servers have been
hearty nebula
is the hidden terminal at cru l4 gone?
errant lark
you cant modify the rented pros right?
static cosmos
nope
supple kelp
@hollow sedge u must be a very picky person when it comes to mining agricium xD
How long did that take you?
hollow sedge
@supple kelp 40 min or so. Found 2 rocks almost 8k in weight on each. Several of the break downs were solid or 100%. I only took those
mental fulcrum
What are the Quantanium hot spots? 😄 anyone know?
undone socket
are all moons mineable around microtech?
woeful gazelle
I've had crazy good runs at yela asteroid belt
guys do you lose cargo capacity in prospector?
and this has happened to me too
silver dove
so its not only my problem hmmm
woeful gazelle
Yela Asteroid Belt potential Prospector payout
silver dove
yela has quantanioum?
woeful gazelle
only in the belt
silver dove
near of grimex?
woeful gazelle
yeah exactly
woeful gazelle
either GrimHex or Port Olisar
I prefer P.O. myself but I guess that's just preference. you can also get Optimum at Olisar, which is necessary to mine Quantainium
silver dove
so 10min at the time you mining it ts ok i think?
79% o this you find it on one stone?
woeful gazelle
well, I'd say the average run is 20-30 minutes. you have to find a decent rock first. just ignore all other stuff besides Quantanium
it was two rocks very close together
next to each other
woeful gazelle
I don't think I could even if I wanted to ^^
I just randomly fly around the belt, usually try to keep crusader in view so I have a point of orientation
woeful gazelle
you do need a Helix and Optimum though, bear that in mind
silver dove
i have from the fist day the helix
warm belfry
which consumables are recommended?
woeful gazelle
Optimum in my opinion
and Rime on the side for emergencies
Brandt seems okay too but Optimum is better and cheaper per charge
worldly wraith
how are you dealing with the disappearing chunks from asteroids?
woeful gazelle
haven't encountered it so far. I only had one weird asteroid that was glitched as it seemed to be spawned twice exactly on top of each other. couldn't open it as both scanner and laser switched constantly between those two twin rocks
worldly wraith
oh, I had it 100% of the time and I bought my prospector yesteray
woeful gazelle
might depend on the server? unsure. I usually use US servers even though I'm in EU
worldly wraith
I hope I find a solution
woeful gazelle
I hope that too 🙂
I haven't done a ton of mining in 3.9 yet, like 4-5 runs total. but those seemed extremely good and I only had one issue with partially disappearing cargo after touchdown and the twin rock
although I hear there were a bunch of issues yesterday so maybe it has gotten worse since
jovial berry
well then....
that's 15 minute run
o.O
didn't bother fillin up, wanted to see how much is 50% cargo
woeful gazelle
where did you mine?
burnt echo
quick question - went to Yela asteroid belt, scanning for rocks and get a ping (grid box shows up), however as i get closer and scan again the rock location disapears/along with ping. Went round in circles for about 10 mins chasing ping response that disapeared or moved drastically (this can't be normal?). I coudlnt' find a bug on issue council for this (all were related to rocks disapearing after fracture), has anyone else had the same/similar issue?
rich bane
Seems like yela belt is good for mining, as long as you get rock to spawn
Idk if it's server issue or not
burnt echo
okay thanks Mojiko - I'll try again, and record so if it happens again I can create a bug report
rich bane
I'll try again at evening
rich bane
If same happens in eu I try us
rich bane
But I got lucky once and rocks spawned and one had 18 percent larnite 80 pure
And other was 19 70 quantanium
But sadly I got server crash before I manged to sell it
burnt echo
bummer - okay, I'l see if i can reproduce error. if i can I'll create an issue council entry
pliant matrix
how are consumable working? You buy it and activate it before mining a single rock? or it's like a limited time buff?
burnt echo
Theadriel - my understanding is you have to equip ship in mobiglass loadout screen first - then you can activite mining head consumable from overhead panel in prospector. I've just equiped my ship, but as yet haven't had a chance used the consumable (Optimum)
(equip ship before spawning it)
woeful gazelle
you can actually equip them while you're in the ship
and I'd recommend breaking a rock first and then only using it on the smaller sub-pieces
you can activate it when you're close to the green zone to maximize duration
pliant matrix
ok so the mining runs are now more specialized. Before leaving you equip yourself for (almost) a specific ressources
woeful gazelle
use ALT + 1, 2 and 3 to activate the 1st, 2nd and 3rd slot respectively
to be honest, seems that Optimum is the optimum everywhere, no pun intended by the developers I'm sure
warm belfry
@jovial berry where did you mine quanta?
jovial berry
@warm belfry that was yale belt
worldly wraith
asteroids still disappearing on US server 😦
jovial berry
having optimum is great btw
woeful gazelle
while mining or while scanning?
worldly wraith
after the first fracture
woeful gazelle
huh
warm belfry
thanks, how can i get there easily?
woeful gazelle
go to GrimHex. you'll be in the middle of it. or if you come from Olisar you can do a jump back and cancel it after like 2 seconds, then you'll be fairly close
warm belfry
thanks 🙂
woeful gazelle
btw it's "Yela", not Yale 😄 😅
worldly wraith
burnt echo
zicore - yeah that sucks! I've not seen that before.
worldly wraith
yeah it's really strange that this happens only for some players.
woeful gazelle
why are you mining Corundum anyway? 😛
also try to get a Helix asap
woeful gazelle
you could still mine on Yela's surface, probably better if you don't have a Helix in any case, especially if the asteroids keep disappearing on you
woeful gazelle
maybe you could look for some consumables that help you crack the tougher rocks
check Dumpers Depot in Olisar for those
undone socket
did they remove random fps mining on planets?
woeful gazelle
unsure if they removed it or you just can't find it with the ship scanner atm
to be honest for fully equipped miners it was always more of a hassle to get those pings too
maybe there will be specialized scanners somewhere down the line
undone socket
any word on when they might fix issues we have, everytime i go and mine something, always have game crash, or lose cargo or something happens, maybe 1 of 5 is a successfull run
burnt echo
kingsgate - wow that's high level of problems.
woeful gazelle
when you make the mistake of getting tempted by a really good Laranite rock but then later don't have space for all the delicious Quantainium:
#minerproblems
warm belfry
u r a lucky guy Montis
🙂
you find nice rock all the time
next time i'lll follow you with my mole 😄
woeful gazelle
the thing I noticed is that the stupid "jumps" that seem to happen with the ping cube (or whatever you want to call it) can be somewhat counteracted by flying on sight, once you're about 3km out. this way I get to check out a couple of rocks more and am not chasing ghosts
for me it's the opposite :/
maybe it depends on the PC or something really odd?
have you tried claiming the mole to "reset" it?
huh. which server region?
try US
I live in Ireland, still always play on US servers
EU server seem way more bugged
well, better trolls than stuff not working
just try once if it works on a US server, I'm curious
I mean, do whatever you want 🙂 but if you do, @ me and let me know
have fun 🙂
hollow sedge
Anyone want to bring me along in their mole to mine?
mighty hamlet
@hollow sedge sure
limber kindle
where can i sell widow at the R&R?
in cru l4 the hidden terminal is not there anymore
limber kindle
it's not there i already checked ./D
if i logg of will the cargo will still be in the ship?
limber kindle
let's pray 😄
worldly anchor
Yea I have like 4 of the same ships now claim dupe thing
warm belfry
jovial berry
noice
halcyon relic
Has anyone else noticed that Agricium and Laranite are showing up to be volatile after mining them in 3.9? Is this supoosed to be like this or is it a bug?
full mountain
Where can i sell diamonds in ARC system, or is that goosed too?
woeful gazelle
there's only one system and it's Stanton 🤓
rich bane
Alright boys, I'll go give asteroid mining another go
warm belfry
good luck
rich bane
Thank you ^^
errant lark
So is the rental prospector like useless now?
bc i rented one and literally couldnt mine jack shit
prime flint
Can someone explain to me
if i had a 100% cargo load of agricium
in a prospector
would i get the same sell price of mining for PO as i would grim hex?
errant lark
most likely, check out https://sc-trading.kamille.ovh/trading/
or check prices somewhere else
errant lark
i know, but this will show prices at locations
or like i said, find another site or just go to both
rich bane
Okay guys I think I may learned so something about belt scanning and using it more efficiently
SInce many times you scan, you get many pings, you head there, and dont find a rock
Since scanner ping is no longer, center of minable rock
So far i've been sucsessfull by
first scanning bigger radius like 4x
When i get a ping, i just aim towards it, and keep scanning it with 16x
wich leads pings more central
Since you'r ship dosen't tetect rocks instantly, mabey due server lagg or so
So if anyone has the same issue, not finding rocks in asteroid belt, try the fallowing
- Scan with bigger radius either 1x- 4x
- If you get the ping, switch to 16x, and just head towards the ping, and start scanning it, until you make to ge waypoint
- also just keep also pressid Left click, if you get closer like 3k meters
Sometimes scanner detects it far distance, before you even see it yourself
I'll keep testeing, but i've tried it like 5th time already, and been sucsessfull doing so
I think speed also matters to, since going fast, wont let server to catch up
Flew around 250-300m/s
rich bane
Damn actualy, short brust scanner spam with 15-30% strenght helpts even better at 4x to pin point
burnt echo
good info - will try that out - thanks for sharing!
rich bane
Okay, seems like using 4 times, and scan at full strenght or around 75% works even better
Reason is, at lower rate cooldown is shorter
So if you get close around 8k meters, you can start lowering scanner strenght to 60% or so
Just keep spamming
The closer you get the the lower strenght you can spam
And if you get close to 2.5k meters
Start left clicking around the area, so you will get MINEBALE Icon
worldly wraith
in my last run my ship just vanished under my ass
rich bane
Today i lost 1 milion UEC, when i logged in ^^
Funny when i first logged in after 3.9 i had my UEC
Today was different
rich bane
Okay Character reset, didnt revert UEC
jovial berry
alright, out of 4 runs in the past 3 hours
made none
cause 30k'ed 3 times
and just now, cargo kept disspeaering
rich bane
Seems like database wipe coming soon,, guess they are working right now, at server back end
So mabey thats why lots of ppl losing money and currency changes after each login
chrome dust
(A question in regard to mole mining)
Am looking through the ultimate mining guide, and came across the section regarding mining lasers. Where it's stating that the recommended setup is using 2 hofstedes and a helix.
How come the lancet isn't implemented in the setup, considering the resistance reduction, consumable slots, as well as the overall charge rate increase that the lancet provides?
Or is it merely a question of the helix just being so much more expensive, making it unworthwhile?
minor moon
Whats a good cargo to haul for trading?
I currently only really do the single box thingy
native hatch
@minor moon in the past was a very good trading Widow from Yela drug lab Jumptown to Grim Hex
but I didn´t locate it in 3.9 Yela mapping it´s different
at same time funny due no jurisdiction
minor moon
I'm not a fan of these non QT-able locations. annoying enough for those shipments where it at least gives you a location marker
native hatch
there are a lot of info how was to find it. More dificult in night, but during day there are a lot of "visual flight rules" to get it
floral knoll
im not gonna rent the prospector anymore till they fix the server shit spent 30 mins mining with a full be of lara and agri just to find out i cant sell it at po
opal crow
ok ... not too shabby
granite meteor
How is mining in 3.9?
opal crow
ehh in 3.9 its kinda whack...
supple kelp
Quantainium is good yes?
opal crow
they fixed alot of issues from the first day of the update (thank god ) but like quantaninium is very difficult to mine from the moment you mine it you need to be ultra fast for example in that pic u see 25% quantanium... thats because i got super lucky and found ;like 7 clusters of rocks containing like 3-7% of it ... so i broke everything up first , then i extracted everything , got the hell out of yella ... and by the time i was on the pad selling it i had about 2 more minutes left until it wouldve blown up my ship
now remember thats because i found a cluster of rocks almost on top of eachother containing it .... im sure its pretty rare to that
and i think the bug has returned as well ... aka you have about 5 minutes to mine whatever you see and gtfo before you run out of time
autumn mist
@supple kelp Any resource can literally blow up your ship if you destroy it.
supple kelp
I didn’t know that...
Is that a added feature in 3.9 or something?
Because never has my ship exploded from the instability of the ores I mined @autumn mist
glossy pecan
can someone asnwer a cargo question for me
atomic lark
Can you sell the boxes you find outside of the destroyed ships on black box missions?
royal raptor
Yes.
atomic lark
where at? at the normal trading screen?
do you just have them in your ship? i know i tried once and they didnt show up in the terminal
does your ship have to get stored?
quiet nacelle
Is Laranite out of Tram & Myers feasible or do you have to sit on it for a long time to fill a carrack?
lyric schooner
is the freelancer max rentable or is it just the normal one?
warm belfry
you can only rend the basic freelancer
lyric schooner
ok was wondering cause on starcitizen.tools there is a rent price for the max
warm belfry
maybe it's outdated
warm belfry
ye, the max price is almost 2.2M aUEC
lyric schooner
ty
hollow sedge
is drug run worth again in this update?
warm belfry
now i not, i'm unlucky 🙂
we fill up the cargo like 5%
next rock, cargo like 2%
😄
rich bane
Yela belt mining is actually quite good atm
warm belfry
ye, i'm there now
rich bane
But I lost all my uec yesterday thought, had over 1.7 mil
Lots of ppl lost money yesterday, each login
warm belfry
ye, me too
rich bane
Not sure of it's fixed today thought
woeful gazelle
yup, my account got reset to 10k. lost a million basically
tried an account reset but no dice
native hatch
how to find Jumptown on 3.9?
keen perch
http://status.robertsspaceindustries.com/ @woeful gazelle
woeful gazelle
I know of the site. anything in particular you want to point to?
keen perch
just a lot of server issues relating to that, i think if you scroll up on the #700542150940557332 channel someone posted all the issues
woeful gazelle
well, I'm waiting until all issues are resolved until I'm logging in again and if I'm still missing stuff I'll do another character reset. if I'm STILL missing my stuff ... tough luck.
mortal linden
Asteroid mining is good again?
woeful gazelle
yup
mortal linden
Awesome! Love it!
hollow sedge
Has somone sold slam since 3.9? I just bought it for the first time and I kept reading online that CRU-L5 is the place to sell it, in the locker room - problem is that the trading console is just not there for me. I have relogged multiple times and then went ahead and tried other places where people said it can be sold.
real zodiac
are the new moons worth mining ?
inner spear
can the prospector be bought with ingame curency
fast summit
so can anyone break a mechanic down for me like I'm completely new to it? Back before 3.9 I could buy up quite a lot of resources and then it would reset the stock every so often, now it seems like it trickles in very very slowly, is it just bugged or did they change this?
half grotto
Servers are still fucked dude
fast summit
is it not supposed to do that?
safe rose
What's the best way to find places to handmine without having a ship that can scan for mineables?
@inner spear Yes I think so
inner spear
where
safe rose
I think I saw one at the shop in Lorville
I think the shop in Levski also carries them though
safe rose
Lorville shop is called New Deal
Levski shop is Teach's Ship Shop
half grotto
@safe rose accept the missing persons contracts. They'll lead you to caves with mineables
safe rose
Ah OK cool. What are some of the better places to look out for?
arctic blaze
did they nerf drug routes recently?
mortal linden
How can you even nerf drug routes more than they already are?
It'll be not a nerf, but a removal. 😄
arctic blaze
indeed, was just asking, i havent been playing since a pair of months
just wanted to know if they changed them since then
coz i friend of mine mentioned something about it
mortal linden
Doubt it, otherwise it's be all around #industrial-professions
rich bane
For fps mining, caves are pretty much the only way without a ship that can minables
But since scanners seems to be also broken atm, at least prospector and mole have, then it seems fps mining is impossible with a ship right now
Since eyeballing fps minables is almost impossible
half grotto
Yeah their render distance is bleh
hollow sedge
So I just rented a Prospector and did my first mining of Aluminium and Concordum only to earn 3k
What's a good place to mine and sell?
rich bane
Well scanners seems to work best on asteroid belts atm, if you know what you doing and how to use it
But problem is stock mining head sucks quite bad
hollow sedge
I wonder if I should just stick to trading or follow DigThat's mining guide which said to go mine in Daymar
rich bane
Problem with stock head you can crack Max of 3.5 k rock with medium hardness
Most masses in belts are above 4k
hollow sedge
How's the stock head on the Mole? Just as bad?
arctic blaze
any wipes the last two months?
rich bane
I think it's same as prospector need to upgrade
mortal linden
@hollow sedge here are approximate prices for minerals.
Agricium 25
Aluminium 1,44
Beryl 4,23
Bexalite 40,58
Borase 32,58
Copper 5,71
Corundum 2,56
Diamond 6,76
Gold 6,04
Hephaestanite 14,73
Laranite 28,47
Quartz 1,43
Taranite 39,06
Titanium 8,68
Tungsten 3,91
mortal linden
Most probably yes.
hollow sedge
How much discount can you expect?
hollow sedge
Hmm
mortal linden
$5 from starter packs, or something like that
hollow sedge
There are 2 more variants for Argo. wtf
mortal linden
Just recolors. Cuz we don't have skin system yet
rich bane
I belive at the current game state, prospector is way to go over Mole
hollow sedge
The mole does have more storage
rich bane
Unless if you dont have friends to play with. or if you care about astetics
since mole does look sexy
half grotto
Mole's minining heads are controlled separately from the pilot's seat
mortal linden
I agree. You waste too much time jumpling from one seat to another at Mole if you mine solo
hollow sedge
You can't mine by yourself in the mole?
half grotto
You can
rich bane
Problem with a Storage is also, you most likely, to get game crash or server crash before you manage to fill it full
mortal linden
Also, fuel use rate is too high on mole
half grotto
Musical chairs is a given when using the Mole solo
rich bane
- they added quantanium ore
hollow sedge
Hmm
mortal linden
Full Prospector if Quantanium is around 280K
hollow sedge
Quantanium ore reminds me, does that spawn in any locations or is random spawn
rich bane
And when you find good quantanium minable ore
you need to head back and sell it anyways
hollow sedge
I will try my hands with Prospector one more time by heading to Daymar and hoping to be able to get my hands on Laranite and Hedanite
rich bane
no time to fill up your cargo space
hollow sedge
Do all places in the current verse have the same rate for selling raw minerals?
rich bane
Yes
it's same everywhere
Thing is i still made decent UEC with stock head
i used to mine with rented prospector
still made around 30-50k per hour or less
rich bane
Yela belt
mortal linden
With a standard mining head I'd recommend you to steak to mid range minerals like Diamond or Gold. Take only 100% chunks.
Full Prospector will be around 25K
rich bane
Thing is, when i was mining yesterday in the belt
almost all rocks i encountered were over 4k mass
arctic blaze
30k in one hour
rich bane
I think you best luck, would be staying on moon
but keep in mind, Scanner is extremly weak on moons after 3.9 patch
i think it's bugged
mortal linden
Prospector needs better scanner. 5km is too damn low
rich bane
so eyeballing is also an option, since minables renders in bigged distances
i think it's more like 2.5km 😄
It's almost useless
So fly like 500m high
and use your eyes
mortal linden
It's 5, but it's bugged so sometimes it doesn't highlight stuff 1km away from you.
hollow sedge
I was seeing stuff that were 10 kms away from my Prospector in scanning mode though?
mortal linden
Sometimes it picks from 10 or so km.
hollow sedge
I will try Yela asteroid belt one more time
If it doesn'twork out
I go to Daymar
Well that will be after dinner
rich bane
idk 2 days ago when i was mining on moons, max distance was 2.5-3k on prospector
Btw CodeRed
have you tired changing loadout in Self hanger?
does it still work after 3.9?
I dont have rented prospector, so i can't test it
hollow sedge
Self hangar as in the hangars you walk around?
rich bane
in 3.8 we used Self hangers, to change rented ship loadouts
half grotto
It's possible to spawn things, but very difficult to do so because the placement dots are invisible. And if you do, 9/10 times the ship will be inaccessible
rich bane
But after 3.8.2, i think patch came, wich disabled ability to change rented ship loudout
But in Self hanger it still worked
Btw someone asked about data base wipe
Yesterday we had one
but i think we still kept our UEC and some other stuff
Just new character creation and spawn point
But also lots of players lost all their UEC yesterday, in each login
there were issues in server back end and presistance
hollow vessel
Anyone know any decent cargo routes to do trading ?
fast summit
I can't find anywhere selling more than 1 or 2 SCU at a time of any of the profitable resources
I think it's all broken
mortal linden
Previously today 4 facilities I visited on Hurston had completely blank BUY screens.
fast summit
yeah everywhere I go says "insufficient stock" even through it shows it has 1 or 2 SCU worth
no idea what's going on
rich bane
I believe server and databases still have issues atm
That's probably what's causing it
Probably need to wait few days before it gets foxed
Fixed*
hollow vessel
Thanks man
native hatch
25% benefit each time, it´s really fast and has waypoint helpers for quantum
hollow vessel
@native hatch what app are you using for that route ?
hollow vessel
Ty x
native hatch
also there is no long walks and shit trams
hollow sedge
Flourine is good profit?
hmm
I guess that makes sense considering the really short jump distance and low travel time
regal notch
native hatch
@hollow sedge I get fast with 3-4 travels about 30K with the Connie
hollow sedge
Hmm
My current route is Agricultural/Medical Supplies from Port Olisar to either Bountiful Hydroponics Farm or Galette Family Farm, Distilled Spirits from either of those to Grim Hex and Scrap from Grim Hex to Port Olisar making a good loop
Been a pita to trade though after patch as a lot of these places are either not in stock fully or have full stock
Tried to go into Jumptown but I ain't a good navigator so quit
native hatch
there is no waypoint helpers at the momment for JT, I hope someone find the way to get it
Because OM aren´t show in the map to follow same 3.8 tutorials
hollow sedge
The problem with OMs I hear is that they don follow the rotation
rich bane
@CodeRed_Sam did you try to change loadout inside self hanger?
hollow sedge
@rich bane I realised I don't really have any additional components/stuff so couldn't try it :c
Also fuck mining, I am out
opal crow
wait a min .. that google doc linked , theres 3 locations where one can buy a ship? i know of new deal and astro armada but wheres the other one at?
hollow sedge
Leviski
opal crow
ohhhh i had no clue they had a ship store there
glossy pecan
@hollow sedge I was trying to drop off stuff at HDMS-Edmond, apparently the computer there only recognizes Personal Inventory, or was there another computer I was missing
glossy pecan
the question i had earlier this morning
glossy pecan
Ah, ok
hollow sedge
as I dont think ive been there frequently
brisk sapphire
anyone found the quantanium ore yet and if so how long before it explodes o7
glossy pecan
Yeah, I was trying to drop off medical supplies
errant lark
Is asteroid mining still not worth it?
regal notch
kinda
errant lark
@brisk sapphire I have found quantanium at: Daymar, Cellin, and a lot at Lyria
You have like 15 min before it blows
I don’t recommend going to lyria though bc the area 18 autopilot will fuck you and you’ll explode
brisk sapphire
@errant lark many thanks happy flying and mining to ye o7 8)
austere fjord
a good trade and short time taken,
@native hatch
im sorry but im confused, how is arccorp to grimhex "short"?
or am I missing something
hollow vessel
Well I'm here now
austere fjord
yeah my bad
hollow vessel
It's a mining facility on daymar
Not area 18
It's just between grimhex and the moon it orbits
austere fjord
oh, huh
I didnt realize (or forgot) that arccorp had mining stations outside of their own orbit
hollow vessel
ArcCorp got fingers in all the mining pies
austere fjord
also, RIP Laranite
river rapids
Which slot is under the pilot on the Mole? So that I can put my better laser where I want it
rich bane
Finding lots of borase in yela belt though
Found lots of quantanium.,too with high % 19% or so, but purity was bad
jovial berry
@river rapids i'm pretty sure its the first one, haven't used the mole in a while.
just unequip it and you'll see it disappear on the preview
native hatch
@austere fjord ArcCorp 157 on Yela planet
it´s called the trade outpost, not the big city that is 56Million km far away 😄
simple hawk
By the way, we updated the purchase / rent table (in exel) of ships and modules (3.9). It is in English, if you need, we can share it
warm belfry
@river rapids the first one
river rapids
Thank you, it used to be 3rd from what I recall
warm belfry
slot 2 is the left side
zenith token
where do i sell etan?
tacit crescent
Hey anyone knows where I can sell Slam since 3.9? Because the selling terminal in the locker room on CRU-L5 isnt there anymore, thanks
burnt quarry
Can't decide on MAX or Taurus, leaning towards taurus IF it was flyable. Andromeda is a good loaner but almost 30 less cargo compared to MAX. Anyone have a favorite?
warm belfry
nice run
sullen gulch
Who has time to wait to trade e'tam at GrimHEX?
atomic lark
why do the rocks i break in space vanish instantly?
bug? or am i doing something wromng
warm belfry
what is mass value?
atomic lark
i dont remember
but i couldnt take any of them
and they all vanished in like 15 seconds
tried on 3 rocks now, all the same thing
plush holly
any1 have a 3 stop (or so) cargo run theyre willing to share? i.e. a>b>c>a
blissful thorn
