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#industrial-professions
high wren
surface of yela at deakins
proven token
Huh nice
high wren
two rox filled us pretty much lol
i think this was the haul but not 100% sure
one of those runs we 30k'd on. it actually might of been the laranite one lol
proven token
I wish i could make every run like that one
lol
Any word on when we can filter out inert?
high wren
ya same, 1 in 10 like taht
nothing confirmed yet but that would be awesome
it sounds like its in the works
proven token
99% of what i find is just trash rocks, feels bad
high wren
deakins on yela is pretty solid 50-60 k runs in prospector 150-160k mole. every so often u get a 86k and 186k respectively. but u also get some where we bale half full and let it reload cuz its so dry
proven token
well if you ever need a mole gunner hit me up, I got a mole but its boring switching so many times
high wren
yes very tedious. but will do.
proven token
wouldnt be so bad if you could find a really good spot and post up, but you gotta just keep moving from rock to rock
high wren
ya, and i just found out the other day, the instance remains. i broke mined, sold and went back to same spot and my rox were still broke. the exact same ones with same mineral quantities. was surprised
and is it just me or does everyone else hit the mother load of agricium or laranite when they 90% full. every fricken time lol
high wren
switched?
high wren
what lol? never saw that before. maybe a log out back in might fix
unique lion
I believe that's caused by exiting the seat during extraction mode
high wren
i'd put a ticket in for that
proven token
Weird blue, because i was just mining and it did it randomly
as it usually does lol
tulip maple
Hello fellow miners 😎
My prospector switched fracturing and extracting how do i fix it lol
@proven token I had this same bug happen to me. I still finished mining. I just went back turned my minerals in, claimed my ship and it corrected itself
I was streaming on twitch when it happened. I’ll make a highlight of it. Anyone know where I can submit the highlight too so they can look at it?
proven token
its a weird issue black
tulip maple
It was a fun temporary challenge to mine and kinda threw me off. I had fun with the bug. But it does need tnn on be looked at. @high wren thanks for the tip on that man, I’ll get it to them
fast cliff
guys, i did some quick search on it, but does a F7C hornet tracker pick up hand mineables / minables?
i could not find a definite
proven token
i dont think anyone has that ship
fast cliff
probably right on that
tulip maple
that's how i found out my mining laser wasnt working. im converting it to my youtube to finalize the report
but from my point of view thats how it went down, it was weird as heck
bleak lance
wait did we keep mining lasers when the database reset?
because i bought my first helix laser after the wipe and it says i have 2 available?
i bought one before the wipe in 3.7 so
tulip maple
I have two prospectors available, but only one I can claim. I only have one helix laser and I haven't seen a weird bug about having multiple mining lasers yet.
anyone know what i should select for this bug/glitch?
unique lion
UI if that exists
HUD could work
@tulip maple
or Gameplay
honestly it touches quite a few things
tulip maple
@unique lion agreed. I went with FPS Mining cause it's close but its a funky bug
again, if anyone wnats to see the full footage of that mining trip, it was a good 30-45 min run. I can get it uploaded but not sure this is where that footage needs to be seen
unique lion
you could contribute to this as well @tulip maple
this is a thread that's existed for it for a bit
for 3.8.2
seems the W/A atm is to just swap servers
tulip maple
interesting. its the first time it happened to me. I tried to mine about 10 mins prior to that and my helix wasn't doing anything to the rocks. I went over to help my buddies out, and thats when they told me my laser was purple. it was super confusing
unique lion
first part is what I said before. someone replied saying it can happen randomly
but he says to try going into extraction mode and then leaving your seat
tulip maple
at the time i didnt know, i just ran with the bug and was able to finish mining, then just turned in my mineral, reclaimed my ship and it worked out. next time ill try one of those to see if it works
unique lion
things to try if it happens again I suppose
tulip maple
i appreciate the info blue
unique lion
or things to try to purposefully reproduce it for science. either way
tulip maple
mining is sacred to me in this game, id like to make it better and such haha so ill be attempting again when i stream tonight to see if i can replicate it
unique lion
3.9 will be adding mining consumables to the game. you see those?
you and your mining buddies see these things?@tulip maple
time stamped
proven token
Little laranite nuggets
opal crow
i hate you all
glossy sage
anyone looking for a mining crew? I'd love to try out a mole if someone has one
turbid plinth
does spawning multiple prospectors for friends work?
if i spawn, reclaim, spawn
can i sell the cargo from all of them?
jovial berry
Same thing, however you need to fill the stuff up
turbid plinth
that bit makes sense. thats alr how i do it with separate ships
but you sure you can do it with the same ship duped? cause then i could mass a fleet of caterpillars and go nuts
(assuming i have a few pilots)
jovial berry
You can, but don't forget that you won't be able to sell all of it at the same time @turbid plinth as there will be no demand
the prospector sounds like more of a "safe" way to do it, besides get 3 of em and you're guchi
high wren
so wait, i can spawn a prospector claim it and then spawn it again?
and have two at my disposal
teal epoch
someone has to be in the first one
teal epoch
anyship technically
high wren
holy crap lol
hollow sedge
hello
jovial berry
it will despawn tho after some time, what i meant is if you have multiple ships you'll be able to @high wren
turbid plinth
@jovial berry confirmed that the duping cargo ships doesnt work
teal epoch
f
turbid plinth
the second ship becomes a ghost. it cant interact with anything
cant land, doesnt show up in store
cant request landing*
high wren
ok i see now @jovial berry
vernal birch
are we ever going to be able to sell a mining load at r&r stations?
ripe badger
New player question. You can't sell ore at any station, correct?
frail magnet
no it has to have a refinery
distant sapphire
ship mined ore can be sold at Lorville, a18, Levski, PO, and GH. R&R stations should be coming soon
ripe badger
So, Im confused. I'm at PO with a full backpack of ore and I can't sell at the consoles next to the admin office.
distant sapphire
go to the side..ore terminal hung on the wall
oh, backpack....use the trading consule and select 'personal inventory'
ripe badger
ok. giving it a try.
opal crow
where can i find bexalite?
warped inlet
try a different terminal, it only works on some terminals, theyre usually separate from the non ore ones
distant sapphire
you are on the sell tab at the regular trading console? not the ore console?
ripe badger
I've only found the two consoles next to admin reception at PO
distant sapphire
@opal crow check out the mining guides pinned in this room for bex locations
warped inlet
there are separate ore terminals that looks the same as the normal terminals, you just have to time it
*find
@opal crow check out the mining guides pinned in this room for bex locations
@distant sapphire this^^^^^^
distant sapphire
@ripe badger you are selling hand-mined ore, not ship-mined ore?
ripe badger
yes
distant sapphire
you have the backpack equipped that contains the hand-minded ore?
distant sapphire
might be. i'd verify that you backpack does have contents, then switch your torso out to another armor piece and re-log. re-equip your rucksack and try selling again
ripe badger
Might try that. Heading over to Levsky first. Thanks.
proven token
There IS a buy/sell tab
If you are in the buy tab you will not see personal inventory
opal crow
finally find bexalite with like 4 rocks to mine after like 30 mins of searching = lazer doesnt work and i get flun out into outerspace ...
😫 🔫
high wren
He has backpack. He has to use terminal on counter. Bex is on daymar but i find its always diluted with garbage making it very inefficient to mine
@ripe badger terminal on counter. Not next to admin. At admin
supple kelp
I found bexalite on aerial once
opal crow
i give up ... they really need to fix some of these bugs.. i had an argo filled to the brim with bexalite and agrioium, jump to po, and the moment i get out of quantium my ship just sling shots backwords all the way to crusader and blow up ... completely un responsive to throtle... i give up all these bugs have made it impossible ive been mining for the past 5 1/2 hours without 1 single payout 😐
bleak lance
Your guys thoughts on upgrading to mole from prospector for solo mining?
Pros and cons?
pale crane
Pros : More cargo space and bigger laser
Cons : More annoying to mine alone because you have to switch chair to scan/mine rocks
Fuel is also consumed faster on the Mole I think
pale crane
Ooh didn't knew that thanks
robust rose
I have both an much prefer the prospector no bothering with having to find crew na no seat switchingna when I upgrade laser ez money
high wren
same, have both and prefer prospector but mining in mole with some friends is fun, solo is doable but tedious
balmy panther
I personally prefer the Mole. I don't have a problem with changing seats and think it feels more like running a full sized rig. And the bonus is that my friends can join me if they want.
gritty cosmos
The MOLE is designed for asteroid farming fundamentally
it flies like a boat in atmospheric conditions
Prospector is more for atmospheric/surface mining
handles better
YMMV
hollow sedge
Mole is pretty much an industrail building, with thrusters.
silver loom
question for ya'll. What website do ya'll go to check the prices of stuff around the vers? Like where to find the best trade places
silver loom
I used to use that too, but for some reason it doesn't seem to work on any of my browsers anymore
I can still pick my ship, but it doesn't update any of the listings when I hit Profit or Margin
supple kelp
Damn that’s too bad
distant sapphire
gallog runs so slow. takes literally minutes to scroll down the screen for me
pure pulsar
Gallog works fine here too... wish there was a way to know witch station selling an item actually has it thou... many times gallog is only partially right or items are not available in any decent quantity
honest creek
hey all, anyone know how i can swap mining heads on the prospector i just rented it (haven't taken it out of storage yet) but everything is read only
teal epoch
Cant change parts on rented ships
honest creek
huh?
people in local chat and on reddit saying they are using helixes on rented prospector
everyone is just lying?
honest creek
weird
literally all of my ships are read only - even my noob ship
none of them are out of storage
honest creek
nah the noob ship isnt, you have to be in same station and in storage?
teal epoch
yes
honest creek
ok
pure pulsar
After Titanium, what is a realistically good item to haul/trade with a CAT?
Agricium is just not available in any interesting quantities
honest creek
where are some good places to go mine? are mining spawns random on planets? like if i go to daymar, does it matter where on daymar i go?
high wren
yela and cellin been good to me in the prospector and mole. particularly Deakins on Yela
honest creek
ok cool i'll check them out thanks
opal crow
3 days of trying to mine with argo and not one single penny made ... non stop glitches and bugs 😠
opal crow
thats it im done ... not putting another penny into this game until they fix atleast 1 of the 1,000.000.000 bugs ive encountered 😡
mining is just not possible
dense elm
its an alpha, it happens
opal crow
yeah but its been an alpha for 5 years .
dense elm
and? development takes time, and current issues are disruptive of it
foggy spear
is it important to upgrade my mining head?
i tried a little mining and not enough power is going through the laser - if so what should i consider getting?
ive throttled the power up to 100 percent and im not even breaking 5 percent on rocks
dense elm
I hear the helix can break just about anything
foggy spear
thanks mate, do yo know what station i can pick it up from?
dense elm
try levski?
foggy spear
cheers
opal crow
like where do i run cargo to and from ? this is so confusing
dire warren
dont focus on cargo run boxes from levski u need money to start cargo and if the game glitches u lose it all
theres boxes on levski for 9000 a pop no risk
as u earn money just watch youtube videos to teach u while u are in quantum drive learn much as u can while u stack bread to even invest in real cargo
cargo runs aint guna earn u shit till u got like 2 or 300 k to invest
opal crow
i have 600k to invest
im juyst looking for something to do since mining just refuses to work . hell i tried to investigate a mission and go stuck on a rock in the cave
hollow sedge
Steal a NPC Prospector, and use its scanner for FPS mining on the surface.
opal crow
where am i supposed to find a npc prospector?
opal crow
yesh but emp?
hollow sedge
forget emp, and go to the 2nd method.
opal crow
renting one sounds alot more simple
hollow sedge
Yup.
But you wanted to "Do something"
opal crow
yeah something thats not broken . mining is broken
granite meteor
Steal a Hammerhead and use its NPC gunners to cheese claimjumper missions?
opal crow
whatever i guess ill spend the next 4 years doing delivery missions hopefully by then theyll fix a bug or two 🤷♂️
hollow sedge
Would be easier if all the scanners worked equally.
Then you could use things like the Cyclone RN, or 315p to search for FPS minables on the surface.
bleak lance
Really good since I don’t have to split profits lol
First mining trip on Mole with Amy second account next to me on another laptop with shadow running
granite meteor
Dang, nice!
burnt echo
Looking for some advice:
On two consecutive prospector mining trips to Yela (with claimed ship in between runs) both times my Helix-1 mining laser function got reversed. So in fracture mode it would extract (when rock was purple) and in extract mode I could overcharge a rock (but the energy level / over charge level are not displayed in this mode - so completely unusable really). I tried all sorts of things to rectify: mGlass, getting out of seat, landing and going out on foot, different rocks, switching to scan mode and back to laser mode, but nothing seemed to work.
In the end I gave up (after wasting about an hour). Has anyone experience this bug before (I've not - and I've done loads of mining in 3.8.2 raised more than 3m in UEC - so def know how mining works etc) and found a solution to mitigate when it manifests? FYI - I overclocked laser (helix-1), and PING and upgraded QDrive to Voyage - this was on a UEC in game purchased prospector.
cobalt shell
burnt echo
Helmet - if you have a (rented) prospector which can scan for all mineables (include hand mineables) then I'd say Deymar as they are all Hadanite. If you're doing Cave missions, the same logic may apply (sorry been a long time since I've mined in a cave), but others may have more current details on that
unique lion
Caves are random
Can be any of the 3 ores. And I highly suggest bringing a helmet of the heavy armor classification and a lot of medipens
Couple nights ago the server must've been having a stroke and everytime I mined a rock the ores would drop into a neat pile on the ground, then explode and fly all over. Twice smacking me in the head and nearly killing me. Helmet saved my ass both times
Only had a couple nodes not explode
Still got to pickup the ore after it flew all over but I mean, that was obviously less than ideal
brisk sapphire
there some spots on Daymar that have multi hand mining rock , fill your back pack for 16500 also rarely shot as your out side in the fresh air , o7 8)
lime vector
@cobalt shell Grab two Ruck sack torso armour. Find a cutlass red you can borrow. Set your spawn in the red's med bay. Head from Port Olisar to the moon of Daymar. Head to one of the mining stations. Cutlass red has a long range scanner than the prospector which will help on Daymar. You are looking for Hadanite. If you get blown up by an overcharge you can heal in the cutlass or respawn if you die. Just remember to switch into another set of torso armour if you do get hurt, just incase you die that way you don't lose the minerals collected. a ruck sack will net you 16K each. You can also drop crates on your cargo grid in ship but it's a little more risky because of 30K crashes. Just remember to pick up the box and place it on the floor, that will let the cargo get recognized at the cargo terminal.
Best way to hand mine, caves are a waste of time. Join an Org and I'm sure you can get loaner cutlass red no problem.
sleek walrus
Best place to mine for high selling rocks?
And where do I buy new mining drills at?
distant sapphire
@sleek walrus mining heads for mole or prospector?
distant sapphire
just about any dumpers has the s1 for prospector
honest creek
where can one purchase 66SCU of laranite at once?
distant sapphire
did you check gallog?
honest creek
i've never used that, i'll go check it out thanks
distant sapphire
link pinned in this chatroom
hollow sedge
question, how is the starfarer for cargo?
turbid plinth
@hollow sedge i dont like it. handles like an absolute stone
its got a decent enough cargo bay but i'd pick a cat or carrack in a heartbeat if given a chance
it flies so slow that you waste a lot of time
proven token
Starfarer could be good in the future
Atm you cant switch or use the tanks for cargo, just the cargo bay
So a lot of wasted potential with the ship
I guess in the future you will be able to switch out the liquid/gas containers for standard SCU crates
Which will expand its capacity
For standard cargo hauling at least
I think the star farer will shine carrying liquids and gas though
turbid plinth
Starfarer 2.0 maybe. Post a massive rework
pure pulsar
any advice on what to trade after titanium...cant find a port with reliable stock of agricium and gallog data is mostly wrong/outdated
distant sapphire
@pure pulsar I've had better luck using this site: https://sc-trading.kamille.ovh/trading/
You can prioritize raw UEC or UEC per hour, type of cargo, investment amounts (that may select different types of cargo). Only downside I've found so far is the that the numbers are averaged and not real-time, but at least you'll have a solid window of profit return.
pure pulsar
@distant sapphire Thanks, i tried the site but just like Gallog it does not take in to account the scarcity of resources. For example it calculates a full cargo of Agricium, wich would take a day to get flying between 6 or 7 different seller interfaces as the advertized locations rarely hold more than 25 SCU,...and my cat has 576. Doing repetitive Titanium runs is a MUCH more profitable over time. Guess till CIG opens and API with realime data for traders... we will continue to fly "blind".
teal epoch
loveridge mineral reserve to Area18 works for me i get about 80-110 SCU everytime
pure pulsar
80 SCU per refresh is still a crap load of time to wait to fill a CAT. By that time i'll have done at least 2 Titanium runs. Also assuming i'm the only one waiting for that trading console to refresh. Wondering if Laranite is an option...
pure pulsar
Yeah makes sense with a freelancer. Titanium run with Cat is +/- 80K profit per run. But that seems to be the plateau for trading over time
teal epoch
Where do you pick up and drop off your Titanium
pure pulsar
Ariel Bezdek to Lorville. ...I hate the supid train but it's the most reliable route i think. Cellin is crap and i always get Fd by pirates and Area 18 landing is too risky
distant sapphire
quasi gust
pliant matrix
lucky dude 😉
naive maple
Anyone know if the 315p Cargo Bay has been fixed in 3.9?
naive maple
is that a No?
half grotto
3.9 is still technically under NDA
naive maple
Right… How about the roadmap? Does that say which bugs will be fixed in the upcoming match?
half grotto
No
naive maple
I tried to Google the storage question, but couldn’t find any information other than the posts replicating the glitch
OK thanks
dusty minnow
Where's the best planet surface mine if I rent a prospector
dusty minnow
Same with mole?
I guess j could rephrase. What's a good planet learn how to start mining on
dusty minnow
Thanks
proven token
Yea the stock mining laser isnt very good
dusty minnow
I bought a mole, just trying to make enough money to buy at least 1 helix 2 I guess
proven token
Yeap,make sure you buy the S2 for the mole
pliant matrix
how is 30k bug working? You load your ship and arrived at the delivery/sell point there is nothing anymore into your cargo?
distant sapphire
@dusty minnow Good learning-to-mine moons would be Daymar and Aberdeen....almost all minerals represented
dusty minnow
Thanks. Found a few rocks i couldn't crack. Definitely gonna need that next mining head soon lol.
What is it now 108k?
distant sapphire
s2 helix for mole is 108. hofstede good stepping stone..same debuffs on rocks as helix, slightly less powerful and only roughly 12k
dusty minnow
Plus the mole seems to guzzle fuel and I gotta figure out how to solo mine with it without having to pay more in fuel than I actually mine
distant sapphire
wear medium or heavy leg armor and walk backwards down ladders so you fall down....little bit faster
dusty minnow
Cool thanks
brisk sapphire
iv had no problems with the impact S1 with prospector around 50k i think o7 8)
unique lion
The mining seat shouldn't even have that
proven token
I always have to click tab a few times
unique lion
That's weird that it even appears lol. Only the pilot seat should have that. Since the drills can't fly
dusty minnow
interesting...... lol
wonder if theres code in there for that seat to be detachable in the future
opal crow
@dusty minnow i had this issue as well .. press "tab" it will pull up ur scanning screen , then press "tab" agian and it will be fixed 🙂
burnt quarry
what components should i be upgrading on the prospector? already using the helix
pallid temple
Quantum Drive
burnt quarry
should i worry about cooler at all?
unique lion
Prospector has the best coolers for it's class
honest creek
Most of you probably already know this, but you can still upgrade components on rented ships.
I just found this out so made a quick video.
pallid temple
.....No you can't
iron ridge
How do I see how much ore I have in my prospector
honest creek
it's just percentage of cargo hold full, afaik you can't see specific numbers until you go to a trade kiosk
naive maple
@honest creek OMG Parzival!... great job! Thx!... I imagine you have to pull that mining laser off before the rental expires to keep it, right? (sorry, not in-game yet, still waiting on Shadow Cloud gaming)
Also, how much is that Klein Mining Laser?
And one last question, I just saw a video showing how the Cutlass Red can detect mineables in which a comment mentioned that the scanner on a 315p could do the same (only ship I own)... anyone have confirmation of that?
hollow sedge
315p can only detect caves.
If we ever get some update for scanners/utility modules, then maybe you'll be able to use it for minerals scouting.
Same goes for Cyclone RN, and some other ships with scanners.
But so far, the only ships that can detect minables, are:
Prospector, Mole, Cutlass Red, Reliant Sen, and Terrapin.
Some say the Reclaimer can also do it, but i haven't seen any confirmation for that.
naive maple
@hollow sedge Thank You SO much!... Guess I'll be jacking an NPC Prospector from a claimjumper mission afterall! 🤪
honest creek
@naive maple hey! I'm glad you liked the video. I would assume that you need to remove your mining head from the rental before returning it and put the old one back on (and i included that in the video). Though tbh I just did this for the first time today, so I've never tried turning one back in with my mining head on it.
The Klein mining head i'm using in that video is only a little over 10k to purchase. It's a really strong head but very unstable - the Arbor that the rental comes with is very limited though. I can make a ton more cash with the Klein.
If you decide you like mining though, the 108k Helix is dramatically better than the Klein and well worth the money, especially since you can probably afford one after two quick runs between Port O and Yela!
As far as your other questions I'm not sure as I'm still very new.
hollow sedge
I own the 315p myself, and haven't seen any minerals.
But it's still a nice ship for deliveries, and small cargo runs.
Since it's small and pretty fast.
But yeah, i've been making a bit of research around mining, or rather FPS mining ships.
Cause relying on rentals, or investigation missions is kinda annoying.
And unfortunately, the best option is still getting either Prospector, or Cutlass Red.
Which are quite expensive.
hollow sedge
Seen this.
Knew about this method from the 890j rescue mission, where you could steal one of the pirate ships, to avoid combat with your own ship.
honest creek
Toshinou, check out my video I linked above about swapping out the mining heads on a rental prospector - putting a Klein on a Prospector makes a huge difference over the basic head and it's cheap.
lime vector
@naive maple I bought a Cutlass Red specifically for FPS mining because of the scanner. It has a longer range scanner than the prospector. Plus the med bay lets you heal or respawn if you blow yourself up.
naive maple
Is the Cutlass Red purchaseable in-game? how much aUEC?
naive maple
The Helix mining head is $108,000 aUEC?... ouch!
supple kelp
I heard the terrapin can detect FPS mineable
pliant matrix
108k isn't much. It's just a dozen of deliveries (can be done in two well organized run) or some claimjumpers farm
hollow sedge
@naive maple Unfortunately, only the Cutlass Black is available for ingame credits.
So you're better of just investing in the Prospector, for a bit over 2mil aUEC.
honest creek
@naive maple yeah it's honestly not bad though. You can rent the Prospector for ~42k, buy the Klein for ~10k. And your first mining run will probably pay for that - you make two more and you've pretty much bought a Helix.
After you've got the helix you'll be able to mine even the hardest rocks easily so you'll make money even quicker.
Then you can start renting the prospector for like 3 days at a time if you want for a better rate.
Honestly though - until they totally stop doing wipes, I don't see the point of grinding in a Prospector just to buy a Prospector? There's no point when you know that they will eventually just wipe and you'll lose it.
hollow sedge
With the wipes, there is no real point of grinding anything.
Just throw more money at CIG, because the really need your support. 
honest creek
haha yeah
i just grind little stuff for my character and for my aurora, and i enjoy mining so
if you like mining i'd recommend just buy a klein and use it on a rented prospector and grind for whatever items you want to get and whatever ships you want to rent and try out
idk if i'd even buy a helix as if you get ganked with the helix on your rented prospector - good chance you just lost your helix
naive maple
When they do a wipe... I imagine you lose the upgrades to the actually owned ship that you purchased with real life money as well, right?
balmy panther
Yes, that will be the case
naive maple
In the last patch from 3.8.1 to 3.8.2... Was is just aUEC that persisted? or did in-game purchase of ships and components persist as well?
balmy panther
Anything purchased with aUEC persisted. Components and equipment were all unequipped but remained in the inventory. Any active rentals did not persist.
naive maple
@balmy panther Thank You!
bleak lance
@balmy panther wait sorry ships purchased in game from the last patch persisted when they wiped database / money??
proven token
Yea if you pledged to the campaign you never lose your ship during testing, even after wipes.
After insurance is a thing it is to be seen how that works out
pliant matrix
you wont lose a pledge ship after release either (I hope!).
And insurance like LTI make it you wont lose it (or repay it with ingame money) at all probably
3/6/12 month insurances just means during that time you wont have to buy your ship again (ingame currency) if it's destroyed or lost. After the time end either you subscribe another insurance or you buy your ship each time you lose it
balmy panther
The insurance is in case your ship is lost. Even if you pledged for a ship you will have to pay in game currency to get it replaced. If you don’t have insurance in place then it will cost more than if you had insurance. I imagine it will be similar to how Elite Dangerous handles player ship destruction. It might also be different. LTI means you won’t have to purchase insurance. From what I’ve read on the forums insurance will be purchasable in game and isn’t expected to be incredibly expensive.
pliant matrix
All is explained here: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/12820-Insurance-FAQ-And-Update
honest creek
i thought i read that even if you purchased insurance and lost your ship that you would have to pay 10% of the purchase price as a deductible in order to get your ship back?
And also that you will lose ship upgrades on death even if insured.
The intent being to make you care if you lose a ship.
pallid temple
@honest creek The losing ship upgrades on destruction only occurs if you have the base insurance
Specialised insurance packages will cover ship upgrades
pallid temple
Oh there will be
The way insurance works, you need to treat your ship like your home and look after it however you can
honest creek
that's good
pliant matrix
Also I heard/read that insurance prices will depend of the purpose of the ship. Fighters insurances will cost more than explorers or cargos (ships insurance only since there will be cargo insurance too)
spare mulch
@pallid temple how do you get the specialized insurance?
pallid temple
We don't know yet
But I'm assuming it would be the same as how we would either purchase or renew a base insurance package
spare mulch
Aah, so it’s not current yet. Do you lose ship upgrades on destruction currently?
pallid temple
No
Insurance right now in the alpha is just permanent and recovers the hull and the upgrades
spare mulch
Ok gives me time to get more experience with the game
opal crow
so how am i supposed to understand whats happening ? https://gyazo.com/181d3bc9f34fbcac8c0c9b7ba7ebc5df
hollow sedge
Use your scroll wheel to increase power.
opal crow
yeah but i almost just died because the rock exploded
why am i undable to tell when to lower / raise my power?
half grotto
Okay so when the bar is in the blue zone, that means the rock doesn't have enough energy being pumped into it, and you need to raise the power level.
Green is the window where the rock will crack safely
Red is when the rock is overloaded with energy, making it unstable and likely to explode. You must keep the bar in the green zone as much as possible - keep in mind that your physical distance from the rock also affects the energy injection
hollow sedge
proven token
cool
azure hamlet
im looking for a guide on cargo hauling will anybody help ill be on channel 6
maiden brook
Red means back off @opal crow also there is guide in pins on mining that explains all this. 🙂
@azure hamlet look at pins
hollow sedge
hey guys im new here, and im wondering if there is a place to find clans on here
magic sinew
You can ask around for an org in #looking-for-session , but make sure its not unsolicited org invitations.
opal crow
and now my ship simply blows up when i quantium
ughhhhhhhhhhhh
thats it i give up ive given this game too many chances already i cant anymore
granite meteor
It's easier to crank the laser to full power then just walk back and forth to moderate rock energy level
If full is too much, try 75 or 50%
ashen epoch
the issue with hand mining i seen is you seem to have to chase a dot to have energy register
while ship mining it works as intended pump energy at max or what everl level no matter where you hit the rock it fills up even can swing laser all over rock to fill it more if laser si technicly to weak
lime vector
@opal crow You should screen share through discord next time you hand mine and then let others watch what you are doing, they might be bale to give you some pointers better that way.
fervent bloom
Have we had any recent info on the merchantman
prisma crescent
What's the best thing to sell using the freelancer for good profit
split pasture
hey folks, what is the best mining spots on Cellin?
still mauve
hello
so if the game stealing your money lets say stuck on hurtston because of ghost train and lift not working while doing diamonds run route can you get that money back
i lost about 30.000
and this is from crul5 on EU servers could not get out too then i switch servers and cargo was still inside tnx god
hope that workaround will work on hurston too
its a bug fest on servers today on trading not very friendly
half grotto
If the elevator comes up like that, wait for it to close then open it again
As for dealing with the stuck trains, try using the business line, then transfer to spaceport
hollow sedge
im flying already over a hour with my freelancer trying to find som ore on daymar but havent found anything yet, is it then im just very unlucky then?
Kudre Ore?
half grotto
If you're trying to find mining stuff, the Freelancer can't scan for those
still mauve
i did try to wait nothing but invisible wall once open
try difrent lift too same thing it did not even came up on hurston on crul5 inisible wall on eu servers us worked tough
that was my day so far in SC negotiating with bugs 🙂
frosty edge
Where's the best place to learn cargo hauling
atomic flower
@frosty edge Euro truck simulator.
frosty edge
Idk what to buy and where to take it etc etc
pliant matrix
search in pinned message there is a website for it
opal crow
where do i sell bolovine? and i see my constellation andromeda can "scan" does that mean i can scane mineable ores with it?
half grotto
The Andromeda cannot detect mineables afaik
opal crow
how about the cutlass ?
half grotto
I believe the Red can, but someone else will have to confirm that
lime vector
@opal crow Red can scan for mining and hand mineable. It has a better scanner than the Prospector as well plus the added benefit of the med bay if you blow yourself up mining.
opal crow
yeah but .... i have the reg cutlass black and that one doesnt do anything
wondering if andromeda is worth trying out
hollow sedge
Andromeda doesn't do anything special either.
The only improvement over Cutlass Black, is a slightly bigger cargo capacity, and enough space to carry the Ursa Rover.
But unlike Cutlass, it uses a buggy elevator instead of a ramp.
naive maple
If you're looking to do Hand Mining, just jack an NPC's Prospector from the Claimjumper mission and use its scanner
@opal crow If you're looking to do Hand Mining, just jack an NPC's Prospector from the Claimjumper mission and use its scanner
fast hull
Hello there, which ship would you recommend at first when you start the game for mining* ?
hollow sedge
For actual mining, there's pretty much only one option.
The Prospector. ( or a Mole, if you like suffering, or have a group of friends )
fast hull
the prospector ? imma look at that
oof, the price. Anything else to recommend for around $60 and do it manually ?
opal crow
im fps mining
and im not trying to get a prospector just for that
imo prosopector is useless
unless i spend 150$ and buy it
hollow sedge
To start with FPS/Hand mining, any ship will do.
You just need to buy a multitool, and a backpack, for ingame credits.
Then accept an investigation mission, and fly to a cave marked by that mission.
fast hull
what does FPS mean in SC ?
naive maple
remember you can rent a prospector... or steal an NPC Prospector
half grotto
Or steak a player Prospector 
opal crow
i can rent a prospector yes . but its useless when i cant even put an attachment on it
half grotto
Technically there is a way to modify a rental
naive maple
@opal crow you can... you have to use the vhanger
opal crow
i spent an hour mining looking for ore that the default lazer can break = that 1 hour mining trip made me 3,400
idk what a vhanger is
fast hull
enjoy your lunch
opal crow
you cant though ..... i tried
naive maple
Sorry... my hands were all greasy... here's how you do it... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umqpMrAR8Wc
opal crow
thanks ❤️
naive maple
@opal crow 👍
fast hull
how did you cooked your rib ? with soy sauce and honey ?
naive maple
dry rub
fast hull
oh, and cooked on a pan or bbq ?
opal crow
smoke em
fast hull
seems so good, I'm kinda hungry now. 1Am here o:
naive maple
I think CostCo uses a rotisserie! LOL
opal crow
like 10 years ago when i worked in a super market deli and saw what happens to those rotisserie chickens .... for those last 10 years and prob for as long as im alive ill never eat rotesserei ever agian
fast hull
well anyway, is the aurora mr starter pack useful or should I get something else at first ?
the problem comes from the food, how the chicken/pork/whatever were treated mostly, and how it was "cooked" afterward
half grotto
I'd recommend the Avenger Titan
fast hull
rofl
naive maple
I only own one ship... I pledged it back in 2013 when options were limited... Origin 315p ($65) game package,... but the Titan is the unanimous answer ypu'll get
half grotto
Also, we do have a #food_channel
fast hull
just by the name of it it should cost a fortune right ?
my bad, will keep that in mind
half grotto
The Titan is pretty small
naive maple
@half grotto I was typing in 3 letter words using just my pinky knuckles, so I felt like I had to put the "eating ribs" disc;laimer in there!
half grotto
I believe the package with it is $60
hollow sedge
Upgrading Aurora to Titan would cost $25
naive maple
$15, right?... Isn't MR with package $45?
naive maple
So MR/Mustang = $45... Titan =$60 and it has a cargo bay and can stay alive in an NPC fight (so I hear)
hollow sedge
The package costs $45
But the value of the ship itself is $25 for Aurora, or $30 for Mustang.
fast hull
hey not bad
half grotto
Titan package is 65, just checked
fast hull
thanks for the tip 🙂
naive maple
Is the 315p still $65?
hollow sedge
Yes, the 315p is $65
fast hull
the starter pack is at $78, is it worth the extra ?
naive maple
I'm biased towards it... I want to discover a new planet!
hollow sedge
Yup, VAT is a bitch.
I would upgrade my P72 LTI to a Cutlass Red, but i ain't spending another 100 bucks on that project.
fast hull
seems like it, yup
pliant matrix
what is the question?
woeful gazelle
so I was filling up my Caterpillar in one of the mining outposts when the game crashed. I restarted but the prompt to rejoin the instance didn't do anything. so I went with another ship to try and respawn the Cat at the outpost but it says the ship size or type is not supported. any chance I can salvage this situation?
balmy panther
We don't have the ability to spawn ships at outposts right now. Ship and cargo are lost. You'll need to reclaim the ship and spawn it at a station. It's bad luck
humble vine
how much money could you make when renting a prospector for a day?
i want to buy one eventually
proven token
the issue with renting a prospector is you are out 40k, and then you can't get the helix which allows you to make the big bucks with a prospector
humble vine
oh
proven token
If you have the default lazer you can't crack some rocks (The ones that make you a lot)
humble vine
i see
proven token
you could do it, no harm in trying, just be ready to work hard for that 40k back and then the profit
proven token
yar, could always see if a mole pilot needs a miner
get the mining experience and probably make more
humble vine
i have done a bit of mining in caves
proven token
hand mining isn't bad, you make decent money doing that too
humble vine
yea
opal crow
so apparently if you attach a heli to a rental prospector,.,, if you crash the helix is gone ... ffs now i only have 20k thanks to the asshole that rammed me in po ..
pseudo dome
I cant seem to find the helix II laser at Dumper's Depo any more?
pliant matrix
rent prospector doesn't allow you to earn more than 20-30k for a very picky run. so it's not worth the time spent
better make 6-7k/box deliveries actually
lime vector
You could join an org and borrow one or get on a mole crew. I see people on global chat in game asking for mining crews all the time. You could probably even find someone on here. If you borrow a prospector you just need the owner to make the sale for you.
vocal cradle
anyone own a c2
white cairn
Yes
vocal cradle
im thinking about getting one
white cairn
They’re cool ships
proven token
I wish it was easier to transfer money
naive maple
and remember, you can purchase a different mining head for a rented Prospector... you just need to go into the Hanger in order to swap the heads... but as mentioned by sparkz above... DONT CRASH with it equipped!
lime vector
If you can keep that Helix and watch some guides before you go out you can make 60 to 80k in 40mins usually. If you luck out you can find two loaded rocks and be in and out in 10-15 mins. You can make more than that but it will take longer. Just remember to get picky with your minerals purity and you will come back with a good haul.
naive maple
@lime vector Sound advice... I saw a Youtube video that went over that in detail!
supple kelp
I found this quite useful
proven token
Man I wonder how much an orion run will get just eating everything and spitting out inert
Probably a lot.
supple kelp
Wait it spits out inert?
supple kelp
Is the Orion only flyable in space?
proven token
Yea it wont be able to go planetside
supple kelp
Cool
naive maple
@supple kelp Awesome chart!... i saved it to my computer! thanks!
supple kelp
Np man that thing made me go from rags to riches xD
naive maple
I believe it!... where do you find that Taranite and Bexalite?!
distant sapphire
The values in that guide are no longer correct nor is the location of deposit types. The more accurate guide is pinned in this chat room.
naive maple
@distant sapphire those are no longer the most expensive mineables?
distant sapphire
sell values are incorrect with current in game values. location of ore types is also not up to date
the 'ultimate mining guide' pinned in this chat is up to date
supple kelp
Oh my bad lol
I didn’t realise that one was out of date
It’s still kinda works tho
faint sinew
hello everyone
naive maple
@distant sapphire @supple kelp thanx you 2!... I'll dig into the details further!... Are Taranite and Bexalite still the very best?
Hi Greco
distant sapphire
agricium is the biggest bang for the buck...more common...breaks into higher purity chunks. highest auec per time invested
naive maple
@distant sapphire thx Glumm! thats a good jumping off point for me to do some online research! The ultimate mining guide webpage is quite informative, but the videos on there are generic and not actual 3.8.2 gameplay and specific location/loadout specific. Do you know of any videos that aren't getting the views necessary to be common knowledge that could be more informative?
brazen axle
@distant sapphire where do you mine for agricium
distant sapphire
I usually mine in the crusader system. Not aware of any videos for mining, although I am sure many exist. My org mates taught me a few tricks and we have our own mining guide. It is available to anybody here: https://testsquadron.com/threads/the-complete-test-squadron-mining-guide-v3-8.16801/
naive maple
@distant sapphire thx Glumm! thats exactly what I was talking about! 🙂
supple kelp
I like to mine mainly on yela and cellin @naive maple
Although watch out for other people
They’ll most likely kill you
Yela and cellin are a hotspot for campers
And you might also get pad rammed on port olisar xD
Sorry
brazen axle
what do you mainly mine for
woeful gazelle
here's a video on mining: https://youtu.be/VCDID8wFtLM
I usually mine on Daymar and mostly take Agricium as most other materials are worth a lot less or have cheaper or inert materials "tacked on". you can also get out of the prospector and handmine some Hadanite
if you find a bigger field
jovial berry
did a 20 min run yesterday on yale with a mole
was bored
solo
that place is poppin
grim bolt
Prospector
The MOLE is massive, slow to mine with, and eats fuel like a 10-year old eats candy on Halloween
You can't mine from the pilot's seat in the MOLE, you have to find the resource, park close enough to mine, exit the seat, hoof it to the mining-station, crack, excavate, get out of the seat and back up to the pilot-seat, then look for the next node...
minor moon
Quick q, I have never done commodity trading before, can you make a decent amount of credits doing it?
shell edge
You can, but you can also lose everything if you suffer a crash. So to manage this risk, it is wise to never invest more than 50% of your current credits, so you have something left if you crash.
eager dust
yeah I lost everything right now server crashed...
grim bolt
Yep, that happens a lot..
minor moon
Is it just a case of buy some things somewhere, sell it somewhere else?
eager dust
ýeah
high wren
default laser is not good. get the helix. well worth the investment
naive maple
Klein is a good investment to work up to a Helix... and it’s only $11k I believe
grim bolt
@copper lantern The best-paying rocks are next to impossible to crack with the default laser. Even at point blank. Try to mine some mid-range rocks until you get enough funds.
rustic oriole
if I can ever find my way out of that hurston city I'm hoping to try out the hand laser, earn enough to rent a prospector, and start my empire
supple kelp
Buy the backpack if ur gonna do some hand mining @rustic oriole
proven token
they put a lot of downsides on that mole
jovial berry
downsides? @proven token
proven token
fuel consumption
needing 2 crew or not operating it efficiately at all
prospector, although holds half as much ore, is just the better choice
dapper tapir
do you guys know the current state of the widow route? what is the buy and sell prices and where do i sell for the most profit
pliant matrix
problem with wisdom and drugs in general is you can't sell a lot at once so you'll lose maybe an hour to empty a full freelancer cargo
seems like there are not much junkies in stanton 🤔
dapper tapir
still has 125% yield though
pliant matrix
yes but for the time you'll spend selling it you could have done two maybe three run of legit product. Make the count. 2or3x15% benefit per hour against 1x25%
currently drugs aren't profitable enough. not talking about getting a crimestat if you're controlled
misty gull
Taurus details aren’t on the matrix yet
Max has more than a Connie andromeda apparently
But Connie looks so much nicer
cobalt valley
@supple kelp Connie all day and twice on Sunday, personal preference.
cobalt valley
Sunday’s I don’t go to church I save my hour and play star citizen. 😉 @supple kelp
supple kelp
Doesn’t the connie have a mini ship under it
supple kelp
Damn
supple kelp
Tomorrow ??
cobalt valley
Tomorrow is Saturday so definitely not, Saturday’s are usually party and regret days.
supple kelp
Haha
cobalt valley
😂 lmk if you need anything else brother
supple kelp
Thanks
rustic oriole
flying around, about to land and buy some ore (proabbly at the wrong place and price anyways) and as usual, holding alt to strafe down and hit F to use menu and bam, close game
time to try my g13 again, if I can get the joystick working
supple kelp
Ooo
misty gull
Are there decent cargo missions in game now or is it just mining that seems profitable
rustic oriole
is there any way to know ore/trade prices in other places?
distant sapphire
@rustic oriole gallog.co and https://sc-trading.kamille.ovh/trading/ will both get you commodity buy/sell prices and route planners
rustic oriole
ok thats good,, I was using that and bought some stuff and was wondering if it was up to date
distant sapphire
the kamille one does an average.....gallog relies entirely on users reporting updated info so it isn't always correct
rustic oriole
ook so I made like 200 credits, all I need to do is the same thing a few thousand times and I'm good
cobalt valley
@distant sapphire much appreciated brother
distant sapphire
no problem
supple kelp
@rustic oriole there’s also gallog.co which is my favourite cuz it has everything u need
rustic oriole
I think I need to earn more before I can do trading, 10k isnt enough funding
drowsy violet
oy how do I sell this SLAM that I have?
I thought HUR L5 paid the best price but how do I sell it here?
patent canopy
will levski not buy widow ?
balmy panther
You can sell SLAM and Widow but not in large quantities like legal items. Gallog.co lists the maximum and refresh rate for commodities by station.
Basically Either sell illegal stuff in small quantities or plan on camping out at a station for a while to sell a large load.
maiden dawn
is there a really good way to get to jumptown? getting frustrated with 5 minute tutorials
tulip prairie
s2 mioning head cant mount in prospector, cant white it that at info in store ?
and now i cant reset my ship loadout & mount my s1 head mining... nice +1 scrap ship at hangar !
sand wren
i was wondering is there a actual uptodate site for trading i have been using kamille but that just dont seem to be acurate
are there more sites like this for trading would be nice to see one with actual live prices
azure yoke
@sand wren - you can try this one that i use https://tradein.space/#/route-finder/default
sand wren
thnx guys
covert cave
Can you still do multiple deliveries at the same time and just remove them from your ship and place them in the hangar before your ship despawns?
covert cave
good looks
near sand
hello
tulip prairie
an screenshot from Prospector weapons (MobiGlas ) to see why my loadout cant work...
spare mulch
@tulip prairie what are you experiencing?
tulip prairie
i removed S1 mining head for s2 .. so i found the s2 is for mole ! tragic no info at store !!!! and now i cant put back the s1 ...
i do reset ... but only character wipe... hangar weapons items stayed*
half grotto
Try changing the loadout of the prospector from the hangar mode
royal raptor
MISC Freelancer Max Trading or MISC Prospector Mining?
I currently have enough aUEC to buy either a Freelancer Max or a Prospector for making my own money, previously been flying a Caterpillar for a friend to make money.
Which one you think would be more profitable?
But ignoring 30k's?
Credits per hour?
royal raptor
Thanks! I'm leaning on the Max now.
dusty minnow
So for mining scanning I had a question. When you're in scan mode and the composition on the rock comes up in white on the right side, I get that the first number is the material's %. what does the second higher number mean?
high wren
i think mining can be more consistent. yes luck based for the big runs but overall a half hour to 45 min in a prospector will net between 45 and 60k. I havent transported yet as I don't have a ship thats makes it worth it but what i've read you can post some huge profits but ya the 30k's can eat into those
if you get lucky you can get 80+k in prospector tho
opal crow
anywhere besides po where i can sell my materials?
maiden dawn
yeah pretty much everywhere there's a trading console
opal crow
idk of any besides po
maiden dawn
whatchu haulin' boi
opal crow
im mining
neat blade
GH, PO, Levski, A18, Loreville
opal crow
gh?
neat blade
Grim Hex
opal crow
where do i find that ? sry never heard of gh before now
supple kelp
Yela
It’s an orbital station
Above the moon
It’s a pretty sketchy place tho
Watch out for random
People
supple kelp
Sorry I overreacted
opal crow
wb levski? i been there only once but i dont remember where it is lol
supple kelp
Most likely they won’t kill u cuz it’s an armistice zone
But they might follow u out
U never kno
Oh levski is in delamar @opal crow
opal crow
ah okay thans
supple kelp
But that place is also kinda sketchy
So watch urself
If u didn’t already know this there’s a ship dealer at levski
opal crow
cant be worse than po theres a crew of 6 ramming people right now
opal crow
yeah but loreville or a18 ill prob have my ship de spawn from spending so much time looking for the trading console
🤣
supple kelp
I think you still have access to it’s cargo tho
hollow sedge
For places like Levski you go to the admin office. There will be two sets of consoles. One to buy and sell commodities and the other to sell off ore. They look the same so just try another group of consoles.
supple kelp
@opal crow why not just go to port olisar?
hollow sedge
Because depending on the server PO can be pure cancer
supple kelp
Hehe true
opal crow
@supple kelp because in po theres an entire group of 6 people who ram every ship
supple kelp
I’ve never had something like that happen to me
opal crow
they really need to make a map for these places
in loreville for an hour and a half already looking for the console to sell my mining stuff
supple kelp
Yeah true
I’ve only been to PO to sell ore ig I’ve just been lucky to not get pad rammed
opal crow
how did a ship full of bexelite land me only 27k ?
wtf?
and like 80% of my storage was inert materials even tho i didnt mine that
makes no sense
supple kelp
You have to mine a high composition of bexalite
If it’s a low % then don’t mine it even if it’s bexalite
Therefore there’ll be more inert materials in the rock than bexalite
hollow sedge
When you scan a rock it will tell you its mass and the percentage of materials that rock is made of. So if you found a 100KG rock that was only 8% bexalite you're only getting 8KG of that and the remaining 92KG is inert material. You want to sick with high percentages of stuff to actually put in your hold to minimize the wasted space from inert materials
I'm often doing quick math in my head and usually don't stop to crack something unless I can get 150-200kg of mass of valuable material from a node. So a 5000 mass with 4% agricium could net me 200kg of pure ore as long as it breaks well.
supple kelp
Mmmmm
proven token
Shame inert rock dumping isnt in
supple kelp
That’s when you make the big money
hollow sedge
There should be some downside to that like having to buy the storage containers and having them be an expense to do that.
neat blade
Prospector is suppose to have a filtration system for inert material. Not a refinery more like gold sluice where it doesn't catch/ filters out inert material. It will also be able to drop its bags and equip more. However at which time the amount you can carry at one time will be reduced, or at least that is what is planned. Of course they caveat everything so they may not give the Prospector the filtration system it is advertised as having.
opal crow
it baffles me how ppl say they make 100k an hour when here i am making 27k in 3 hours of flying around and searching just for the right material ... but now it also needs to be a high percentage? that is a huge yikes ... makes me think the ppl who make 100k an hour are either lying or have god like abilities
hollow sedge
Mining is often down to luck on how quickly you can make money. I've had 80K runs happen in as little as 10 min or take as long as 90 min to fill up my hold.
unique lion
Rock itself doesn't neccesarily need a high percentage. As you break it just look at what the percentages of the individual pieces are @opal crow
Could find a rock with only 10% Agricum but the small piece you break off is 100% pure
Stuff like that
opal crow
Then yeah ... normally the ones i break are 80-100%
unique lion
At that point it's just people being picky and snagging only the high value mats
lime vector
@opal crow Made this on my first run with a prospector. I had a helix on there right from the start. Took me 20 minutes from port back to port. There was some luck involved, two rocks beside each other full of agrecium. I usually average 40 mins for 80 to 90k. You just need to be picky and learn to move on from a scan quickly if it's trash.
unique lion
Like that
lime vector
So that one had zero inert materials.
opal crow
I ...... i just dont get it ... i fly around and scan very quickly ... had the helix also
When im fracturing i almost never go into the red ... i just dont get what else im doing wrong
lime vector
That one was on Daymar, lot's of rocks there but I don't go there anymore. You spend too much time scanning rocks. so I go to Celin, which has very few rocks but I find there are higher value minerals more often for how few rocks there are. So I usually can pull 70K in a 30 min run if I am rushing. Some days you get screwed and you take over an hour. Those days I just fill up and move on to something else.
supple kelp
I like yela a lot
lime vector
I also use head tracking so I find it faster to scan the landscape without wasting time turning the ship.
opal crow
Yela has alot of rocks but also alot of diff things to find = less chance of finding the good stuff .... at least thats how i see it
Track ir?
lime vector
yes Track IR
opal crow
Oh shit it works with star citzen? 😮 kk before i was think about getting one but now im 100% in .... whats the best track ir to get that wont obliterate my bank?
lime vector
I just have the Trackir with the reflectors you put on your hat. no issues with that at all. Saved me money. Got mine from ebay.
I can't play the game without it now.
opal crow
Is it big ? Can i have it attached to my headset?
lime vector
There is an Pro clip that has LED's that attaches to the headset but there is a wire i believe and it costs more. it's not big. I just use the reflectors you clip on your hat. Hold on I'll take a picture.
opal crow
I dont see anything on amazon 🤔
lime vector
yeah I could only find it on ebay without insane shipping.
But to get this back on track for mining and cargo. It makes it really easy to scan out the big glass cockpit of the prospector. you can see more than 180 degrees in that thing it seems.
opal crow
Yeah thays good i find it annoying using keys to rotate cam
hollow sedge
If you have a webcam the game can track that and you can pan around to look with just short turns of your head. I tried it for a bit and it worked fairly well, but I use my second screen so much that it was as much of a hinderance as a help.
Its probably not as precise as TrackIR but it worked well enough for me.
opal crow
Dam technogoly ...
lime vector
I dogfight mostly so i went with trackir. I don't have a webcam for some reason.
hollow sedge
They already have the FOIP stuff in there so head tracking was probably an easy addon to that.
lime vector
If you have a webcam try that first. I would have tried that if I had a webcam.
It's so messed up now though, I'll play other games and i catch myself turning my head to look around and then I just get annoyed lol.
opal crow
Nah no cam either lol ... never had a reason to have one
lime vector
same
Well, don't stress too much about the mining, you probably just have to refine a few small things and you will see your runs improve. And there are days that are a bust for some reason, so better to just move on to some other activity and try again the next day.
opal crow
Oh i know im just in a tiny bit of pressure lmao. I had 111,000 so i bought a helix for my prospector which is a rental and if my rental blows up i lose the helix.. i gotta make each run count
lime vector
ahhh i see. well I would say stick to Agrecium and try to minimize the inert material. So if you have a pieces that are 100% agrecium and then one that is 23%, it might be worth skipping that 23% if you are early in your run and find more 100% chunks on another rock. If your run is dragging on to long then just grab it, go sell and move to a new spot.
opal crow
You buy helix. Log into hanger attach it to the boat and log back into the verse
hollow sedge
There's a workaround by equipping it in the hangar. Though if you do that and claim the ship you'll lose out on the mining head.
supple kelp
So 111k down the drain...oof
opal crow
I never had problem with argo mole i was pulling agorleum like it was candy 😄
opal crow
Nah i just never remember the names correctly 😂
supple kelp
Oh lmao
Has anyone ever tried putting good guns on the prospector?
Also does the mole have weapons?
hollow sedge
Every ship in SC has weapons. There's an in universe law saying all ships need self defense.
supple kelp
I did not know that
hollow sedge
But I've never bothered to outfit it with anything. It would be such a poor fighter that I don't see the need.
supple kelp
Yeah but I was just talking defence wise instead of aggressively attacking people
Cuz if someone was trying to kill u the prospector wouldnt stand a chance
supple kelp
Yeah for a mining ship carrying precious cargo they should have stronger weapons to actually fight off the attackers
hollow sedge
The mole flies like a boat. You're not going to outmaneuver anyone. I'd just invest in good shields and cut n run if anyone starts something with you.
tulip prairie
anyone screenshot from Prospector weapons (MobiGlas ) to see why my loadout cant work...
tulip prairie
i removed S1 mining head for s2 .. so i found the s2 is for mole ! tragic no info at store !!!! and now i cant put back the s1 ...*
tulip prairie
proven token
I wouldnt even bother with prospector gun upgrades
You litterally cant win against any ship fighting back
:(
tulip prairie
haha yes shield is for 30sec... i want it better mining head .. niax i do reset but not work..nothing reset.. buggi
proven token
HELIX is the best, one of the 12k ones dosnt work
lime vector
Can you not click on the empty mining head slot and select your S1 moning laser?
half grotto
@tulip prairie try loading up the hangar mode and opening the fleet manager from there
tulip prairie
nothing.. i have 1 S1 and 2 S2 ... i try crash it !! 😆
supple kelp
Wait do you mean the helix mining laser kills ships
opal crow
anyone know why my prospector doesnt wanna turn on?
engines and power are on but nothing happens?
half grotto
Are all of the components installed?
opal crow
no idea?
half grotto
Check in fleet manager then
opal crow
ok yeah no... my brain wasnt turned on ... fixed the problem 🙂
opal crow
my mining luck in a nutshell - spend two hours filling up 90-100% larinite/agorium , start heading to port olisar to sell , & get hit with a 30k .....
proven token
Sparkz you are not alone friend
Sometimes you hit big rocks in 20 minutes, others you spend 2 hours and lose it
😦
opal crow
atleast a little bit of change in luck ... just made 52k from a haul of 40% storage ...got paranoid of another 30k so i wanted to play it safe
opal crow
when your storage is at 98% and then you find this .... fml
naive maple
Oh dam! Ouch... too bad there’s no way to leave a mapquest pin where you’re at! LOL
opal crow
ok i offically hate this game
why is it when i qt to po it sling shots me backwords???? by the time i was able to start throtling foward, i had like 6 rockets go up my ass ... ughhhhhhhhhhhhhh this broken game i swear ....
i give up its impossible to make money in this game
unique lion
Don't enter Quantum with any momentum as it retains it upon exiting. So you'll catapult in whatever direction you were going prior to entering Quantum
eternal nest
For me in 3.8.2 it would be "Don't enter orbital Quantum jumps with cargo EVER"
It scratches the edge of a planet when your target is near the perfect opposite side of the planet
and it plunges right into the center of the planet, when the target was near the edge.
And by "near" it actually means very loosely around it - 15% of the planet diameter.
But hey! It feels pro, to be forced to nicely cruise all the way there with something like a Cat.
(it just feels trollish to not know beforehand lol)
wary lantern
can you make enough money during the rental of a prospector to buy it permanently
austere fjord
anyone got advice for trading routes. All these websites suggest you buy quantities that would take literally days of waiting for markets to reset over and over
burnt echo
can you make enough money during the rental of a prospector to buy it permanently
@wary lantern that's what i did. I used rented prospector and a few little tricks (not exploits) to maximise rented time and profits.So the rented mining laser is a little weak (so over clock laser, shields and ping [scan]). I used to supplement ship mined ore with hand mined ore (all on Deymar - as all hand minables are hadenite - best value). Make sure you have a backpack ($16.5k when full) and 2-3 sets of heavy armour (each one has 20 hand minable carry capacity ~$5k when full). Stick to high value minables with ship - like Agricium, Bexalit, etc etc - if needed also lean on Hephsenite and worst case Titanium (for the latter only when high percentages like 100%). I used to get about 50K+ per run on average. I've now got propsector purchased with aUEC and helix and making a shed load of money (made ~5m now, purchased a Warlock and now grinding for Caterpillar - 1m to go).
the reason why I opted for additional amour (swap backpack for armour when backpack is full) it to mitigate the effect of 30K on hand mined ore. If you create a box from backpack it will get lost if 30K - anything in armour persists the 30K. Also i used to make sure that my last gaming session in the rented prospector started just before the rental time ran out, therefore you can continue to use (and make money) well beyond the rental expiry
(obviously - i had to make multiple rentals to make the money to buy the prospector with aUEC - Typically I'd make 300K per rental - but that's full on mining and accounts for 30Ks)
(slightly off topic but when i wasn't renting the prospector i used to generate additional income with some quick claimjumper missions in the freelancer - just to keep things fresh)
proven token
Good tips fidoedidoe
hollow sedge
What do I mine in the Daymar cave?
proven token
Everything! Hadanite will be the most valuable
old prairie
proven token
I dont think you can mine on hurston?
Unless theres a cave
Always can mine in caves
opal crow
@wary lantern cant buy a prospector i find it waaaaaay too much (if even possible) to do thanks the fact that i cant make more than 100k before someone or something happens and i lose everything and start from scratch
pliant matrix
Since I upgraded to my prospector (january) i never got attacked even around PO... Does it happen that much?
opal crow
i just dont see any chance in hell i can make 2million if i cant even make 100k ... best bet is to spend about the next 8 months doing nothing but 6k delivery missions
probably not ... but of course to me it happens ALL the time
pliant matrix
🤔 that's karma dude! the more you fear it happen the more it'll happen 🤣
opal crow
thats not what karma is but okay sure whatever you say
dreamy abyss
is hauling with the titan really worth it on the lyria to area 18 route?
I have tried it 4 times but keep loosing money because of server crashes
supple kelp
It’s cargo capacity is too small to actually make a large profit
Your better off doing delivery contracts
Once u build up enough money u can rent a large ship with enough scu capacity to make big money
empty glade
So I've come back after a few months break. Apparently asteroid mining is broke(they vanish in seconds). Is this a thing with planetside deposits?
Just figured I'd ask before melting my mole for a prospector
half grotto
Planetside mining is more consistent
empty glade
Alright. Since I'm single piloting the mole, it's extra punishing
So I probably need that prospector. Thank you
ashen epoch
only thing i have issue with hand mining is its chase the dot on the rock to get it to register while ship mining its how much energy can pump into it. im guessing hand miner is ment to be the same way but some reason its not as relyable.
like it seems like if the planet is rotateing its updateing its position abit thus resetting hit spot at times
native widget
where can i mine on celin on foot?
opal crow
so anyone know why my helix stopped working randomly on my prospector?
native widget
how do i scan on foot in caves?
unique lion
Can't
Just look for rocks hugging the cave walls with viens of blue, purple, or green in them
Purple is Hadanite, the one you should prioritize
native widget
how do i get the miniing tool to work?
i have battery at 60
or charge at 60 i mean
unique lion
Right click to aim, finish scanning the rock, left click to fire
Scroll mouse wheel to change power applied to rock
If it won't fire then bind "inspect weapon" to a key and press it. After you cancel the inspect animation it should fire
Can check if a weapon is bugged and won't shoot if you hold F and look at it and most, if not all, of the options are missing
native widget
i scan, set the power to what the scan says, 40 , then left click does nothing
ok mining tool is firing. is there a progress bar how do i know if its working. ?
supple kelp
Use the scroll wheel to increase power
native widget
what happens if you mine above the reccomended power?
this rock says 0.2
do i set it to 2 or 20
supple kelp
Just increase power until your in the green zone but don’t go into the red zone cuz the rock will explode and kill u
native widget
where do you turn your mining items into uec?
maiden dawn
just about any port and some of the outposts on planets will buy
you have to interact with the trade console
native widget
if i get stuck in a rock while mining and hit backspace to end myself. do i lose all my resources i stored?
supple kelp
I think
empty glade
I thought the numbers here were a measure of the ore content by percentage? Several of the chunks from this rock came out with 100 diamond and something else. Made 20k from this run because of it.
unique lion
that would be a bug
especially since the diamond has no percentage symbol
because yes, it's essentially saying 30.46% of that 99.65 mass is quartz and the rest is inert material
the diamond being there implies 100% of it is diamond, which is impossible
since the quartz is 30% of it lol
empty glade
Well I ended up with like 75% of a hold worth of diamond, so however it worked out, it was definitely not fake ore.
I'll keep an eye out for any more weirdness
pliant matrix
Haha you'll have all your eyes out then. Weirdness are everywhere in this game. 😉
burnt echo
probably not ... but of course to me it happens ALL the time
@opal crow Sparks - it's def possible (I've done it).
Rent a prospector (see my earlier thoughts/comments on that topic made here just earlier in the day). I did 95% of mining around PO (Deymar mostly and some on Yela - beware of lower gravity on Yela).
Keep away from major landing zone on those moons (you don't want to attract any unwanted attention). Typically I'd QT to moon surface beacon and then travel away from that location to start surface scanning / mining. I'd use off planet markers (like sun, rings around the planet) to give me a general direction of travel so I didn't end up going around in circles. I'd also not mine in the dark - when sun sets, climb up into atmosphere and QT to another moon surface beacon on other side of planet and restart.
Don't overlook the hand minables (again in earlier post) when grinding with rented prospector using the approach i mentioned that alone would bring in 25-33K per run (yes hand mining is slower - but mitigates the lower profit from weaker rented prospector mining head).
I'd also say get familiar with vale of rocks and percentages - for example if you're in extraction mode is 10% agricium better or worse than 80% titanium (short answer - agricium is about 3.5 time the value of Titanium). I often found mining low % agriucim rocks (with high % inert) was less profitable than v high titanium (like 100%).
probably mentioned many times before, search web for this resource: STAR CITIZEN: THE ULTIMATE MINING GUIDE (3.8), i found it very useful informative.
opal crow
By impossible i ment for the goal i want to reach (12.5 million) for hammarhead
pliant matrix
If I may say you put your standard too high for this "game".
It's an alpha so it's not made to try hard and reach high goal yet. It's full of bug and will be for the next years. Just enjoy the features as they are. Make money when you can to buy fancy weapons and if possible some ships but don't get attached to them too much because there will be a wipe at some point. Next week/month or year nobody know but there will be.
So Just chill and enjoy the experience as it is
jovial berry
that's a yale run in 25 minutes or so
had another one in 20, but the prospector decided to blow up before i took off planet
granite meteor
That's a pretty exceptional run
But yeah, assuming a minimum of two 50k runs an hour with minimal glitchiness,
You're still looking at around 125 hours of just mining to afford a Hammerhead
That's boldly assuming minimal bugs and griefing, and erring on the side of slow mining days for the input
Could be a lot faster if you get quick lucky runs every time, but it'll still be tens of hours of mining and hundreds of trips
jovial berry
atm doesn't look too bad
will take a while, but eventually i'm assuming prices will change and adjust
so who knows, might be longer
might be not as much
but i doubt anyone would buy a hammerhead alone
so...... a few peeps will throw in the money together
granite meteor
Yeah, I think big ships will probably have to be a group investment in the future, not only that, but something like the hammerhead will cost a lot in fuel, munitions, and repairs
It'll probably need moneymakers willing to keep it bankrolled
pliant matrix
it'll be worth it when a true organization (guild) will be put in. With a common bank account and else. Actually with regular wipes (even if it'll be less often it'll still happen) making that big invest in one ship would be foolish. Just imagine working your ass out to buy a 10mil ship and a week after there is a not planned wipe xD
crisp condor
Hello! Can I scan a planet's surface using the Freelancer for FPS mining?
I tried it the other day and another guy was also scanning, he found some diamond icons and was pointing at them with his ship, and if I scanned I see nothing
grim bolt
I think you med a mineral-scanner for that... Prospector can do it for sure
tender kestrel
Few ships have scanners that can detect mineables, from cheapest to most expensive being: Cutlass Red, Prospector, Terrapin and Mole
supple kelp
There needs to be more
cobalt valley
They are always coming up with new concepts and designs.
Maybe it might be the next one in line. 😃
opal crow
what is this ? (back of the prospector)
lime vector
I think it's going to be a way to sort materials at a future time.
naive maple
How many FPS mineable can each of the armors hold? I know the Rucksack holds the most, but what about medium and heavy armor? Do the arm and leg pieces hold inventories as well? If they do, are the amounts different between Medium and heavy armor arm and leg pieces?
native widget
is there a cave on delamar to mine?
digital smelt
There are a few...
Actually, I was thinking of the asteroid belt next to it.
Sorry...
native widget
im just heading to hurston, based on the 3.8 guide it says there is HDMO-Calthrope
digital smelt
Yeah, you can mine anywhere on Hurston.
The atmo is a slog on the engines though.
Watch for other players down there...
empty glade
I ended up getting the mole back and I'm learning the fine art of planetside mining with it. Not as hard as I thought it would be. I still hope they fix asteroids though.
opal crow
😍
granite meteor
Oh dang
half grotto
Yeah delamar itself has no mineables
sour cobalt
Where are good mining locations for ship mining with no upgrades?
granite meteor
Yela surface, yela belt, Aaron halo
naive maple
How many FPS mineable can each of the armors hold? I know the Rucksack holds the most, but what about medium and heavy armor? Do the arm and leg pieces hold inventories as well? If they do, are the amounts different between Medium and heavy armor arm and leg pieces?
Anyone know?
granite meteor
Just the torsos, I don't think there's a guide on it, but right now you can wear whatever you want and just buy a few rucksacks, when hand mining you can equip the rucksacks and fill them one by one
When you're done, unequip them and backspace to express travel back to your spawn point and sell
It's still less profitable than mining with a rented prospector though
Also unequip the Multitool when not in use
Its as heavy as the Railgun for some reason
naive maple
@granite meteor thanks!
There was a beginners guide by Morphologis that mentioned using the light armor for arms legs to get an additional utility slot... is that the arms or the legs (or do you need both) that gives the additional utility slot? Do you get more slots from heavier armor?
half grotto
Legs, and I don't believe med/heavy add more
naive maple
If you die with your armor on, do you lose it like you lose your equipped gun? What about the multitool?
@half grotto thanks again DIP
half grotto
Armor isn't lost, and you only lose what you're holding
granite meteor
Only if you have the multitool out
And you don't lose armor, but you do lose inventory
Not utility items or ammo, but mineables and collectables
naive maple
Finally, is there any way to move the items from one armor to another?... like wear heavy armor while mining and move the mines led to the rucksack? ... or maybe move it to a mission box and put in the ship?
granite meteor
You can put it in a box yeah, and stack boxes in your ship, but fiddling with boxes is a bit of a pain, and sometimes the mining terminals don't show them when trying to sell
Can't transfer between inventories, you can drop collectables and pick them up again when wearing a different core, but dropped collectables frequently delete from the world
naive maple
@granite meteor @half grotto thanks a lot you 2!... it’s super frustrating researching online while waiting for Shadow Activation... just trying to develop a game plan for when I finally get in game (hopefully next week!)
granite meteor
Fair enough, happy to help out
half grotto
I would assume that if you fill up your normal armor's inventory, then equip the rucksack it should automatically transfer
naive maple
Oh, I thought Incould fill multiple (2) rucksacks as well as the Heavy armors in my inventory... oh yeah, how many does the Rucksack hold and how many just regular heavy armor? (Heavy Armor holds more than med/light, right?)
granite meteor
Each core has its own inventory last I played with it
You can fill your heavy armor then equip a rucksack and fill it, then equip another rucksack, and just keep going that way for a while
All armor other than the rucksack has the same collectables inventory size iirc, in the future they're planning on making that more variable
half grotto
I want to say the rucksack can carry... 60kg?
granite meteor
It's 12 spu, and I think most armors carry 2 spu
But I don't remember how many items fill 1 spu
naive maple
That’s 60 pieces?... what about the regular Heavy armors? Does Heavy hold more than Medium?