Not bad!
#industrial-professions
swift isle
I got this in about one hour on yela, in addition to about 25k in FPS mined hadanite included in that time. Pretty happy with that, since I like the "lifestyle" of mining. 🙂
lone bloom
Yes, I made 55K on my last trip
spare dune
If I rent the prospector do I need to buy a mining drill or does it already come with one?
swift isle
@spare dune I does come with a default mining head, and you can use that to a lot, but deposits with a lot of resistance and high mass can be a challenge or wouldn't work. But you'll get way better with the mining heads to 10-20k, until you can afford the helix (109k) 🙂
queen ferry
I easily made up for renting the prospector, but its sad than you cant mine all with the standard.
hollow sedge
@spare dune theres people like me who run mining operations as well. I have two moles and two prospectors that i loan out for crews
So you dont even have to rent
swift isle
@hollow sedge When someone loans someone elses ship, can they also sell the goods/cargo inside? I thought perhaps only the owner could do that?
echo marsh
Only the owner
What he means is that u can mine and then he sells it and gives u a certain % from what you mined
Its worth it for both sides since he has the helix head also
Honestly i might start loaning my prospector sometimes lol while i do bounty missions
swift isle
Aha, then I get it 🙂 Pretty alright deal. Even better when a better system for sending credits to other players comes.
echo marsh
YEP
swift isle
Since there are a lot of multi crew ships around.
echo marsh
Infantry i became an ad for u LOL
Legit tho when u can directly transfer money a lot of people will join mining crews
hollow sedge
@swift isle how it works is you get in my ships. We all fly down to the planet and mine. We return and i sell whats in the hold of both then pay you
I payed out 72,000 to one player the other day
thin seal
can't wait to be able to directly transfer, don't understand why it's not in place yet tho, a lot of people would start mining/cargo
echo marsh
Agreed
swift isle
Sweet payoff 🙂 I hope there will be an intuitive system for sharing profits for all kinds of multi crew work, perhaps payment based on "crew position" e.g gunner on a hauler or miner on a mole, compared to the profits on the run.
echo marsh
Btw infantry u can make ez money by doing a focused loaning buissnes, just stay at PO and loan the ships to people, u can be afk and earn a lot of money really fast if u manage to loan some your ships @hollow sedge
swift isle
Agree with Unyxos
echo marsh
Agreed @swift isle
hollow sedge
@swift isle there is
It takes like 2 minutes using beacons. I payed out 175,000 to crew last night
@thin seal
thin seal
yeah but anyone can claim the beacon, no ?
like u can do bank transfers in 2020, why not in 2950
swift isle
I know about that way, but it's not optimal. Would be alright to right click on people in the vehicle channel or server user list and "send credits" 🙂 But it's nice to have an option now, at least. 🙂
hollow sedge
@thin seal i see who accepts it. Its impossible to transfer to wrong person
thin seal
ha kk
swift isle
@hollow sedge I haven't done it before, tho. Can you cancel the beacon if the wrong person accepts it?
swift isle
Nice, thanks 🙂
hexed mulch
What do you guys think of the Hull series? Any Hull owners here?
hexed mulch
Theoryshipping is fun
Do you like the look of them, what do you think of their cargo capacity, is the price reasonable, that stuff
Do you like the info that we have about them already
hollow sedge
Im a hull d owner @hexed mulch
echo marsh
Ok for real @hollow sedgeare u missing ANYTHING for making a full on entire mining corp?
You have mining ships (a lot) , captial miner (orion) and even transfer ship (hull d )
hollow sedge
Nope i have all the pieces. 2 moles, 2 prospectors, and a Caterpillar
hexed mulch
Maybe don't use a HullD there, use a couple of HullCs
Caterpillar works fine too I suppose
hollow sedge
Or without loaners, 1 orion, 1 mole, 1 prospector, 1 Caterpillar
The smaller ships will drop their cargo to the orion for it to pull in and refine
And when orion is refined it drops its cargo to cat
echo marsh
Damn u are stocked
Btw the orion can also mine and refine at the same time right,
?*
Imagine the work force 
hollow sedge
Yes
echo marsh
U need for 1 prospector 1 mole 1 caterpillar and 1 orion : 8 people
The profits will be unimaginable
echo marsh
Since the orion , pros, and mole can mine almost non stop and the cat does the shipping and selling, u remove the travel time and they can make like 500k+ an hour ez
echo marsh
Ye u can most likely earn way beyond 1M an hour
And split it between people so like 100k for a crew member
Thats INSANE
U will be a millionare in like a day
hollow sedge
I can imagine the site security "this is captain infantryleadtheway, the captain of this mining operation. You are trespassing on my mining claim. Leave or be fired upon!"
echo marsh
LMAO
I would gladly join ur ops with my prospector lol, u can convice people with mining ships to join easily since u can save them time by refining and selling and u will take a % and they can earn also more and faster
maiden brook
"Miner Union #3245 reporting in!"
echo marsh
Idk it makes me so hyped
thin seal
can you transfer things between a mole and a caterpillar for example ?
so you go sell with massive stocks
echo marsh
And we are not far from that dream the only thing missing is orion and the ability for prospector and moles to drop their cargo holders
@thin seal lmao , answer^
maiden brook
Soon ™️
hollow sedge
I can provide my own security of a super hornet, constellation, redeemer gunship, ares, and sabre
maiden brook
He has enough. 🙂
swift isle
Or had? 🙂
Looking forward to next time the limited ships come on sale.
But I'll try to mine and haul my way to purchase a sabre in-game.
hollow sedge
@swift isle whatcha going to get
swift isle
I haven't really decided 100% yet, but I want an Relian Sen, and perhaps one of the hulls. Will have to scroll up and down the ship pages a few more times 🙂
echo marsh
Its a tough choice honestly
echo marsh
I have have only the prospector (dont plan to get any other ship anytime soon) but it should be enough to make me money at a fast enough rate to buy other ships
swift isle
Yes, that was my reasoning, as well. I got the max as the first other than the Aurora starter, to be able to make decent money in-game, and then I rented the prospector and really enjoyed just taking it easy and mine on the moons. 🙂
hollow sedge
Yela and delamar i think is the meta @swift isle
echo marsh
Yep
swift isle
Mm, I've tried some asteroid mining around Delamar the last few days, but I also like browsing on Yela/Daymar.
swift isle
Agree on that. Just the graphical views in this games makes me really enjoy taking my time.
echo marsh
I finally have 100k to buy the helix head so now i can go from 20k a run to more then 50k ez
hexed mulch
What do we know about insurance? Can we buy more of it when the game rolls out? Is having LTI on most of your ships that important?
echo marsh
Not really
hexed mulch
I understand that reclaiming a ship will be very expensive, though.
hollow sedge
Its not. You need to mine in the secret belt
@echo marsh
The secret belt has 5x as much ore abundance as the other asteroid locations
echo marsh
@hollow sedge thats what i do lol but all rocks are 5k+
Which makes me waste time on findinh ones that are under that size and those ones barely have good stuff
Thats why the helix head is gonna make a godly diffrence
swift isle
Hmm. I'm pretty new to mining, so don't know about this yet 🙂 Any "point of direction" for this belt? ^^
echo marsh
You need to know specificly where to stop to get there (drop mid qt)
echo marsh
I dont have the map for it on me rn tho so i cant send it
@swift isle ye but if u have a helix head u can make a lot there
swift isle
I do have that.
echo marsh
Then its a great place to mine
swift isle
Perhaps I have to do some exploring later today then 🙂
echo marsh
Its not that it has better metarials but there are A LOT of ore astroids there like every few km
I was there with infantry a couple of times (i knew the place even before that) and we were able to fill up the mole in like 30 min with good stuff
swift isle
Sounds nice 🙂 How far to drop-off point from there?
hollow sedge
Come role with me some
swift isle
Ish
hollow sedge
@swift isle
echo marsh
Sadly we died to crusader giant invisible ass (if you qt to crusader sometimes u will explode due to hitting an invisible wall)
swift isle
Can do 🙂 I usually spend my afternoons in the 'verse :p
hollow sedge
Yeah i jump out before crusader now @echo marsh
echo marsh
Same lol
Btw watch out if you qt ever from yela to PO , you sometimes will hit yela mid qt for some reason
swift isle
I am very aware of that bug. Slammed straight into Hurston with 330k of Laranite in the max once. Not a fun experience 😂
hollow sedge
Ill be looking for 8 players to crew my ships this evening
echo marsh
@swift isle yikes
swift isle
It's 3 pm on my clock right now (Norway) and will probably be in-game from about 6 pm or so, but perhaps I will have to raincheck it to another day. I'm having "training day" with a buddy that is playing for the first time, so will show him around a bit. 🙂
echo marsh
I have a prospector now so its better for me to go solo but when the orion comes i will 100% join u @hollow sedge
hollow sedge
@echo marsh what about the mole
echo marsh
I earn more with going solo prospector rn but i will join u sometimes for the experience ;)
Its fun going mining with a crew
@swift isle i hope he wont lose his mind over the server crashs xd
swift isle
Hehe, no, I hope not. He is fully aware of the state of the game. 🙂
But some servers are better than others, it seems. I can play for many hours without any incident some times, and other times several crashes in short time. But usually things are working fine for me.
echo marsh
Ye its like a 50/50 thing
junior mango
Anyone willing to share a good trade route from crusader to either hurston or arrcorp?
jagged wing
@junior mango https://www.gallog.co/trading/
junior mango
@jagged wing tHANK YOU@
queen palm
anyone knows the exact distance tp ARC L3 when you jump from PO, to the secret Belt?
small bolt
To cause a crash: Take the Mole out, land on a moon. Walk away from the ship's comm channel; walk back to the ship's comm channel. Back and forth a bunch and it shoiuld cause a crash
Only in the mole. maybe a mem leak idk.
idle blade
Its rough multi crewing a mole with the scanning issues
arctic cliff
@queen palm if you look at the 2 orbital rings by crusader and pop out of at in the middle of them you should find the belt
queen palm
I tried but no luck, maybe next time
distant zealot
What are some good things to trade
tribal gust
if you mine anything that ends in "ite"
gusty solar
should I keep my MAX or go with the prospector?
idle blade
you want to mine or haul?
idle blade
they both could earn good money
gusty solar
I upgraded the powerplant on my MAX and lost an engine
then its just been a downhill battle from there
idle blade
i fully upgraded my max, by doing deliveries/cargo in the max
idle blade
finished pirate swarm with it and bought a Cat
gusty solar
I dumped easily 400k and it just hasnt been the same since
lost about 300k due to server crash, which was whatever. To be expected
but then lost another 300k at 045 because a pad rammer decided I wasnt going to have a good day
Literally took off, aimed his freelancer down and busted mine
gusty solar
so when I hired someone to grab my laranite, server crash as soon as the dude gets there
lol
kinda losing interest
idle blade
well cargo runs are generally a loss, mining is not
if you lose what you mined, it was just your time spent mining it
gusty solar
yeah and thats the thing
I could have ran E'tam and been more risky, but doubtful some asshole would wait in a arma zone to kill me
woeful kiln
I've been pretty lucky so far, and haven't lost cargo on a crash yet
gusty solar
yeah that was the first time it really happened
about 400k worth of etam
the second time was because of the pad rammer
literally just went into the terminal, bought my shit and then he rammed my ship twice
spare dune
anyone mining need another person?
spare dune
what ever happened of hull B? Is it in the game?
woeful kiln
none of the Hull series is in yet
proven token
@hollow sedge seems normal to me... uhhh
finite iris
need ship to station docking and detachable cargo pods for any of the Hull series to work
old spire
Anyone help with issues with loading packages on 300.. cant carry them up the ladder cant put them in teh cargo hold.. door wont close back now
woeful kiln
man, as pretty as the 300 is, I'm so glad I upgraded, lol, so many issues with the rework cargo
if it's already hosed, I don't think there's much you can do
in the future though, I've heard doing a belly land is better, and you just jump into your door
old spire
ahhh ok.. no landing gear.. ok..
woeful kiln
yeah, it's dumb :S
just rest easy in knowing you're like 10x sexier than the next package boy
opaque badge
Where in Hurston buys Agricium?
lunar arrow
Anyone know where best place to buy and sell fluorine
light star
fleet pumice
yo, is the game stable enough for trading, or is getting 30k'd mid run still a thing
fleet pumice
hmmm
sly breach
might wait for a few patches to go through
pulsar maple
Any good sites for cargo runs? to see proftability
hidden cloak
gallog.
hollow sedge
@echo marsh you in game right now?
echo marsh
Kinda stuck rn, my pc wont stop crashing 
hollow sedge
Anyone in here willing to do some recon
echo marsh
What do u need tho?
hollow sedge
Is there anywhere to refuel on daymar?
hollow sedge
Im looking for anyone with a prospector interested in a exploration contract. Will pay 20,000 uec. First come first serve
paper forge
shadow plume
where can i buy scrap at lorville?
modern whale
so I bought scrap at lorville cenntral business district
but I thought I could just sell it anyware. I am at HDMS-Lethan and they dont take it.
too bad I dont know a way to just abandon my cargo if I cant sell it(without having to destroy and reclaim ship)
azure blade
is the prospector worth it? or cargo runs in a connie better? unless you have the mole
for making uec that is
sweet lynx
If I buy a Helix mining head, is there anything I have to do to make sure I don't lose it upon losing my ship? Or is it automatically insured if my ship is insured?
hollow sedge
It persists if ship is destroyed @sweet lynx
hollow sedge
It does
Buy the helix 1 at dumpers depot at port oli. The size 2 is ONLY for the mole
sweet lynx
Thx dude
hollow sedge
No problem i run a mining operation so i can answer any questions. I have two pilots right now doing freelance recon missions for me
Just tag me in here if you have any more @sweet lynx
Or pm me
whole coral
I want to try out mining
wet pebble
I thought mining was stooopid, then a buddy of mine that I didn't even realise was a player let me mine with him on his ship.....I stand corrected.....it's not stoopid...it's fun.
hollow sedge
@wet pebble its a blast
whole coral
anybody have an extra seat for another one?
wet pebble
@hollow sedge lol I see what you did there
strong kelp
we going to see the mining tool get scanning back? I miss driving around on the ground looking for fps mineables
whole coral
would love to try it out aswell, have room for one more?
@gilded hearth @strong kelp
have some hours to spare
gilded hearth
yes
whole coral
jumped into group #2
gilded hearth
kk
strong kelp
at work, can't
hollow sedge
@gilded hearth ill be on in like 6 to 8 hours
Is it possible to cargo with a team (that every crew member become a part of the benefits?
Some people do @hollow sedge
How can I send money 💰 over beacon ?
strong kelp
Make an escort beacon for the amount you want to pay, then coordinate over voice with the person (who is nearby) to accept it.
Then wait for a minute for the payment to tick once, cancel beacon
Escort beacons pay the amount you specify once a minute.
(cancel it when you see the amount deducted)
hollow sedge
I hope 3.9 will introduce bank accounts 😂😂 (I know it’s not on the roadmap).
latent axle
hushed depot
Hi everyone, I'm gonna mine with my mole and I wanted to know if anyone would want to come with me
glad fog
Hey guys how do I transfer cargo(ore) from my mole to freelancer?
wild oracle
@glad fog You cannot at the current time
glad fog
@wild oracle i see, but then why they sell this bundle mole and freelancer together?
wild oracle
as with most ships in the game they are released as flyable models that do not yet have supporting game loops prepared for them. The game loops (mechanics) will come at some point in the future
In simple terms you can mine, you can pew pew, you can cargo haul from 'terminals' and you can do 'basic' missions (assuming that they are even working on the server you happen to be on). That is largely it
all other mechanics; like exploration, physicalised cargo (which you want), salvage, repair, first-aid, bookmarks of locations (it is ALL missing and not even on the drawing board yet)
95% of the development of star citizen is going into Squadron 42 at the moment; only a small handful of devs get put onto Star Citizen and it will be like this until SQ42 is released at some point later on at the backend of this year. Then, and only then, will anything of real impact begin to happen in the SC 'verse
In short, we buy ships based on their underlying 'concept' so that when they eventually become useful in the 'verse we will have them available. Some are useful now (like the Prospector, the Mole, The Freelancer) as the underlying role of that ship has some form of supporting mechanics. Eg, Mole and Prospector for ship mining and the Freelancer for cargo running (or use in some mission scenarios too)
Do not be disheartened. Some of the community bought ships for considerable amounts of money in the form of pledges many years ago that are still not even in planning stage. The key is just to make the most of the platform at the current time, monitor developments and take part in the conversation which is the 'ongoing development of the game' as a whole. It is still a very long way away from any form of maturity.
glad fog
@wild oracle thank you for clarifying 😊 👍
strong kelp
tl:dr; feature planned but not yet implemented, with that pack you can do all the existing loops
and with a name like orion_pilot i bet this is a sore subject =P
wild oracle
@strong kelp You could be onto something there 🙂
strong kelp
can't wait for droppable bags. that's my killer feature. =P
wild oracle
bookmarks that can be shared/kept, ability to pay org-mates or multicrew for their efforts, ability to eject inert materials, ability to see what is in the cargo saddle bags and drop shit of low value, ability to scan more than 5km, ability to ........
strong kelp
ejecting inert materials i think is a fool's errand
that should be the purpose of a refinery
we can pay people now with a workaround, so.. meh
bookmarks are fine but i'd rahter have a coordinate system exposed and a good map/compass
wild oracle
yep
strong kelp
i don't like thei cig attitude of 'you don't need to be able to write down coordinates, because you can buy/sell augmented reality bookmarks'
triangulating with om markers is a chore
wild oracle
the game already has a coordinate system. It's 64 bit and has a granularity of 2cm accuracy on a true solar system scale. They could easily implement this stuff; but again, they wont, as they are only working on SQ42, not SC
We should write a lore story along the lines of:
"Back in the day, 1000 years ago, folks could sit at home and use a map to drop a pin and email it to a friend". .....how novel that we have forgotten basic navigation and mapping 1000 years later
strong kelp
ugh
<- GIS major
they say shit like 'not every planetary body has a magnetosphere, so compasses wouldn't work -- or we don't know which way 'north' is so you can't assign lat/lon'
which is just 'we don't have anyone who can read a map on staff'
like, i can give you lat/lon on an orange if i just designate one spline as a meridian
draw any arbitrary great circle and boom, all moons and planets can be mapped
but yeah, i hope they come back to it later.
wild oracle
it's the 59,724th item on the list
strong kelp
for me it's not that they depriorize it, it's that the things they have said about it have indicated they don't value it.
so it seems for now they are actively choosing to not include mapping as a feature.
(in the future)
wild oracle
Well, I was a super-fan of the project and its staunchest supporter that could see CIG point of view in almost all things; until they dropped 3.8 on us at Christmas; claiming it as a technical marvel when its the biggest piece of crap and should never have been published. I'm a bitter veteran now and it will take a lot to change my mind on the matter.
strong kelp
..what's wrong with 3.8 that isn't just typical performance?
it was just rushed for christmas, like every year
plus the v1 socs implementation being buggy.
my org stopped playing after the 3.8 patch, but we're just waiting on the bugfix patch once they get back into the swing of things
wild oracle
Because all the underlying stuff which should have been made more reliable and enjoyable was destroyed. Mining, FPS or Ship, wrong SCU on Mole, erratic behaviour of cargo, missions completely baulked. My org too had planned to spend the holidays really digging into 3.8 and 100% of them have dropped the game completely until the next quarterly release.
strong kelp
wrong scu on mole? that's a nitpick, it's sufficient as it is.
mining works just fine
i don't do cargo or missions though so those could be fcked.
wild oracle
no, it isn't. It was supposed to be 96, and a stupid typo made it 69. It shows the level of detail and attention put into the matter by CIG. The issue itself is small; but the statement to us as a community is massive
strong kelp
meh
i mean, i just got done saying that their attitude toward mapping is the same thing for me
wild oracle
Mining doesn't work just fine. Laser behaviour is erratic, the stuff in your HOLD disappears for no good reason, the lasers don't properly swap modes, the wrong SCU, FPS mining tool not firing, crystal shards sinking through the surface, inability to swap weapons. How can you say mining isn't broken. It's a holistic train wreck.
strong kelp
but with the 96/69 thing.. does the project manager call in three programmers to fix it, test it, and push a new patch, or does it work good enough until after the holidays?
mining works. i go out, i break rocks, and i sell the spoils
is it buggy? fuck yes
does it work? yes. every time i go out
wild oracle
true, but that is 1 out of 150 things that are unreliable, broken, baulked or require significant player workarounds to try and fix. It is that bad they had to resort to giving everyone a free Freelancer to hold back the tide of bugged out players
strong kelp
it's alpha
expect shit to be broken, to be reset, to be horrible dumpster fires
the only problem is cig letting us play now
wild oracle
no, it is 7 years old. Call it what you like; but its a piece of crap for something with 500 developers on it that have been at it for 7 years
wild oracle
Squadron 42 better be a shining beacon of incredible awesomeness otherwise the industry as a whole will indeed draw that conclusion from CIG efforts
no, I'm concierge, chairmans club; with many thousands of $ invested in the game. Its a discussion. I don't believe its a scam; I'm just hellish frustrated by CIG approach to the SC 'verse.
strong kelp
i'll only say this: it's disingenous to say they've had 7 years and 500 people. they've only recently been at this scale, and they've gon ethrough several engine/scope/tech changes. rdr2 is a much much much smaller achievement and it took 7 years and 600 million.
if sc takes 10 years and a billion, and it's everything we hoped.. sweet.
if it's not, oh well
(and rdr2 started with a massive at-speed development team with existing IP, tech, engine and assets)
wild oracle
Well, its that vision that keeps us all engaged and involved; irrespective of the current state of 'annoyance' or patience in the matter.
I hope that they can sort it out; we need this game to work; but 3.8 put us 2 steps forwards and 10 backwards.
strong kelp
i think at the end you'll be happy. for now just look away or adapt
wild oracle
I do feel better after just a little rant. Thanks for hearing me out; even if you don't agree
For now I play other games, whilst keeping a keen eye on SC to see when to rally the org back to it again
hollow sedge
@wild oracle you know that is bullshit. Anyone that has done any research knows SC started with like 13 ppl
wild oracle
It doesn't matter. I had my rant. It's all good
hollow sedge
Hell wingmans hanger had office tours that showed developers in small rooms and damn near utility closets
wild oracle
Indeed; the history is the history; my argument relates to the poor shape and overall context of 3.8 which was released at a point where the game is 7 years in development and there are 500 employees in CIG. But, my sub-argument still prevails; 90% of them (or more) from an active development perspective are not working on SC; they are working on SQ42
At some point the benefit of that development will be ported into the SC 'verse; but it won't be this year
gilded hearth
anyone doing mining?
hollow sedge
Name an assest developed for sq42 that cant also be used for star citizen? @wild oracle
strong kelp
infantry, i think he's demurred. 3.8 is rough for a lot of reasons, that's valid.
spare dune
When checking here wouldnt Hydrogen be the most profitable? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uJia0JCt7sL3bvI_89ed-2TThnITCbMPN2yKbf-veAY/htmlview?sle=true
wild oracle
@hollow sedge I didn't argue that they couldn't be; I argue about the order of release. SQ42 is FIRST PRIORITY and SC and its 'verse is in a distinct second place
shut sun
Which I've personally never understood
wild oracle
@strong kelp I'm not demurred. I am bitterly disappointed by what happened over Christmas
@shut sun Chris Roberts is a seasoned pro of the game industry so will have valid commercial reasons for doing SQ42 first; it ensures funding longevity and player pool plus interest in the MMO side of the platform
shut sun
I mean I know the financial reasons
But to put it roughly
It's a big fuck off to the community even though we get to play a game that s in development
But that only has a small margin of the devs working on it
strong kelp
I just meant you actually demurred. You said thanks for letting me rant, and wanted to draw down. I was just saying yeah, we came to a good stopping point. It wasn't an insult.
wild oracle
@strong kelp ah, okay, I had your context upside down
strong kelp
Infantry was joining the convo after that and reengaging
wild oracle
It's okay, like I admitted; I was triggered to have a hissy fit because I felt so bitterly disappointed. I think the thing that tipped me over the edge today is the comms from CIG who's tone-of-text was so POSITIVE about achievement ; when the whole community is reeling and annoyed
strong kelp
I think I used demur wrong
shut sun
CIG who's tone-of-text was so POSITIVE about achievement I was thinking exactly the same about it
strong kelp
Welcome to corporate :/
shut sun
Like I appreciate Planet Tech v4 but it still has tons of graphical issues
For example it seems to randomly move on your screen
wild oracle
@strong kelp It was a slap in our face. It should have apologised for the state of 3.8 with commitments and indications as to what was been done to address the problems in the short term
shut sun
I really hope they blow us away with 3.9 because it has some pretty good changes in terms of gameplay
wild oracle
one can only hope
shut sun
I also don't quite understand why they get 2 weeks off?
Like no company in my country does that
You only get off for NYE and christmas
strong kelp
I don't think cig owes us any explanation or apology yet though, that's where we differ
Uh ignore gif
Stupid mobile keyboard
shut sun
They still have time to fix it, but personally I would've been happier to sit on 3.7.2 a while longer
So that they could test it thoroughly
wild oracle
@shut sun Yes, that's my point. 3.8.x should have been additive to the goodness of 3.7.2 instead of 2 steps forwards and rebreaking everything we've complained about for so long so the thing is 14 steps backwards
strong kelp
"how cool will it be to say 'socs for Christmas'" was probably the guiding philosophy tbh
shut sun
That and probably the fact that everyone would be like "DELAYED AGAIN"
wild oracle
^ yes, because the damage of it was perceived to be less costly than pulling the release
shut sun
I don't fucking care about delays I just want a perfectly working patch
strong kelp
Who knows what socs had to break to get in the ground floor though. Maybe it will be worth it.
rugged viper
Im not upset in the state they released 3.8, just the time. The majority of people around the world have more time and money around the Holidays and that is the perfect time for people to step in and be like "Wow, this game is good/bad." With the new staggered development cycle they have changed to, mainline patches are going to be more buggy, but we will be getting patches and updates more frequently
Also, none of us paid to play the game. We gave them money to support, and our reward is to play the game. We were never promised to be playing a working game right now
wild oracle
@rugged viper The issue is 90% of dev cycles are going into SQ42; not into SC
strong kelp
I think 'peffectly working anything's is unrealistic expectation until release tbh
rugged viper
@wild oracle Okay?
shut sun
It should atleast be on a point where you can say like atleast 8/10 major functionalities should work
But that's also me being salty
rugged viper
Have you seen what most games look like 7 years into development? And that is with big publishers and studios that have been in the business for years with the newest technology
shut sun
I completely understand what I got into but I believe criticism is healthy for the project
I am a dev myself (although not a game dev atm, but might get into that) and I know things take time. But it's really odd how they're still so terrible at managing expectations - the roadmap is usually a shitfest of reschedules, delays and removals. And the few things that are on the roadmap usually are not even so influental things or they manage to release it broken because of mismanagement I guess
strong kelp
Am Dev too, if my stakeholders acted like the SC community id have burned it down out of spite
rugged viper
Making a game completely from scratch with systems that have not been made yet, and being this far along with nothing but funding from your community is pretty fucking impressive
shut sun
That being said I do agree on the impressiveness of what they have achieved so far, but it's still a long way off from what is promised
wild oracle
Yep, thats the crux of it. 3.8 was very very bad in the complete context of the momentum and state of 3.7.2
rugged viper
Literally every Christmas update has been that way
Its how its worked for years
I dont agree with it, but its not unexpected
shut sun
I've probably had more fun in this game than all AAA games released in the last 2 years because I am picky af with what I play and can enjoy, and I also invested quite a bit for that reason
wild oracle
It was because my org was let down that I had my hissy fit today. I'll be fine again tomorrow. 🙂
shut sun
The wonders of sleep
sage geyser
as delamar got good mining area?
as if i am wanted where should i mine
criminal i mean
pirate etc xD
spare dune
I bough cargo but it doesnt show up in my ship. Will it load after or is it lost?
wild oracle
It is in there, you just can't see it. go to the sales point at the other end and it will be there
sage geyser
is it good money?
thin seal
is https://sc-trading.kamille.ovh/trading/ the most accurate website right now to plan cargo runs ?
lost vapor
where is that secret asteriod belt?
thin seal
if people tell you it's not secret anymore
spare dune
@thin seal I use http://www.versemate.com/Trade/Index
Dont know if its more accurate but it finds more profitable routes
hollow sedge
@wild oracle has a picture of the secret belt
@lost vapor
hey guys which route finder is the best atm?
thin seal
Thanks @spare dune !
lost vapor
@wild oracle yooo let’s see it
wild oracle
I am out and about, on my phone. Search my posts in this channel. I posted under a spoiler cover about a week ago
pulsar maple
Already sent him the info
wild oracle
Cool. Thanks
glacial phoenix
opal walrus
Anybody know a good run for the Freelancer? I’ve been experimenting but can’t find a good one, especially since it crashed during experimenting.
wild oracle
use gallog or sctrader websites ; plug in your variables and off you go
There are others; but those two will give you a sense of what might make sense for you
idle blade
@opal walrus going to DM you with something
opal walrus
Okay, thanks
sweet lynx
My prospector has a cargo hold that is about 30% full, with laranite, diamond, and copper - however, on the trading console, nothing appears. I can't even select my ship. Has this ever happened to anyone?
wild oracle
you are not at a mining terminal (refinery type) - you are at a commodities trading terminal
which site are you at?
sweet lynx
It's PO, at the shipping and trading terminal I normally sell ship-mined ore at
sorry - not trading and shipping, I guess it's just a "trading" console
wild oracle
they all look identical; but perform different functions. You'll find the right one by trial and error
It would make sense for the terminals to be 'signposted' but its outside the capabilities of the game at the moment
so, for you, hunt down the right ones and remember which ones do which job! 🙂
Another workaround then if you are sure you are at the RIGHT type of terminal at PO is to book out another ship. That will force the one the game is not recognising to be put away, then you can access it and its inventory on the terminal
it just means that PO does NOT know your ship is landed; so it is not showing on the refinery console as a valid target. Just force your ship into the DB again by asking the ESOP terminal for another one of your ships
fleet pumice
Hey, question, are 30ks as likely as they used to be?
Asking because I'm thinking of getting a cat with aUEC but I don't want to do that if it's risky to make money with it
strong kelp
30ks are gonna be with us for a long time
fleet pumice
So they're still a problem... damn
Is mining any good? How much money can you make with a full prospector these days?
woeful kiln
the average I see is like 60/70k a run, some people are bad and only pull in 30k. Top one I've seen was 171k
pure pulsar
Currently flyable ship with biggest cargo is still the Caterpillar?
idle blade
yes @pure pulsar
idle blade
171k in a prospector? can it even hold that much? i'm assuming it was 100% laranite or something
woeful kiln
yeah it was close to 100% Laranite\
guy said he took over an hour being super picky, and got super lucky
idle blade
the time it probably took searching for all that laranite
woeful kiln
I consider anything over 60k to be a decent run in a Prospector
idle blade
yea i could imaging, the biggest i've ever come across was like 5%
on the main rock
60k is good, and it's free money
no risk
pure pulsar
but is it fun / worth it vs trading with a cat in $$/hour terms?
strong kelp
depends on who you are.
i can mine for hours, but one trade run has me pulling my hair out
i have friends vice versa
trading in a cat is all about efficiency and speed
mining is all about discrimination and efficiency (but the slow kind)
pure pulsar
I dunno... never really tried mining... afraid it's another RNG (finding right vein, material etc) that will frustrate me
strong kelp
trading is rush rush rush get the best margin don't waste time... mining is 'oh, i can hold out for 3% more laranite... guess i'll spend ten more minutes flying around.'
pure pulsar
guess it's time to rent a prospector and try it out. I hear rentals are quite bugged atm though?
woeful kiln
yeah
not sure on the multiday, but the 24hr ones are definitely bugged
not 100%, but high chance for your rental to just disappear if you crash/logout
idle blade
once the rest of the mining gear rolls out (hauilers, refiners) it will be a crap ton better
fleet pumice
@strong kelp @woeful kiln thanks for clarifying, asking b/c after that fiasco with the guy giving out 5m aUEC I decided to look into getting a Cat but was afraid that i'd lose all my money by getting 30k'd
i think i'll get a prospector + super hornet instead
woeful kiln
yeah I've heard the same, you get way quicker and better results with the upgraded laser
fleet pumice
am i at risk of getting jumped in any of those?
idle blade
i have never been jumpoed mining, have encountered some one watching me mine because there was a griefer in the area and he was protecting me
but never once got jumped. the planets are big enough and theres only 50 people per server atm
plush mantle
just don't go mining with a bounty on your head XD
woeful kiln
the only time I've ever seen somebody get jumped while mining...
was when I did it :)
first day in the new patch, got a crimestat without even trying, found a mole, blew up a mole. Ruined somebody's day I'm sure.
jagged wing
You can't scan for surface deposits with a normal ship can you?
idle blade
nope
ivory patio
i hate this anyone know where i can unload 30 scu of medical supplies everywhere i go i can only sell 10 at best
ivory patio
..... see i find that crazy ow would a major city buy so much drugs
if it was like in the criminal circle terminal i could accept it
lol i sold it on adereen
idle blade
I dont get it either. I flew from outpost to outpost selling maybe 20 at a time. Tried lorville and they took them all
ivory patio
finnaly netted me a 10k profit..... after 2 hours of work
lol honestly as far as i can tell were just moving around limited resources and going around in a circle
yesterday i sold falh of the supplies at hur l4 and then went around and ended at beijing and sold a bit and logged off
today i sold some at beijing again but when i went to hur l4 they onl y bought a bit so im guessing we have limited supplies that need to be moved around
idle blade
Yea and others may have been there before you
simple river
@ivory patio I can give you like 5 mill aEUC if you want. There is a aEUC dupe glitch atm so I got unlimited aEUC
simple river
alright and ya np!
west walrus
evening all!
quick question: is solo mining viable on a mole? or simpler to stick with the prospector?
narrow patrol
from what ive read ,prospector is best for solo mining ,unless you want to change chairs all the time with the mole
west walrus
then from the pilot chair you do not have access to a mining laser
thanks for the info @narrow patrol
proud plank
anyone know why i cant find personal delivery missions? i went to po, levski, and grim hex. 0 personal delivery missions
plush mantle
they've been gone since day 2 of 3.8 for me. no idea why
they don't seem to be coming back no matter what i do, how much crime i rack up, where i fly, etc
mossy radish
quick question, which ships allow to scan the fps minables?
narrow patrol
PROSPECTOR
mossy radish
What else? is there an easy way to find out?
lunar arrow
Is the constallation taurus a good upgrade from cutlass black?
lunar arrow
is it worth it though?
im also looking at the mantis and prospector
hm, actually the prospector. didnt know the mantis was just a millitary craft
half grotto
The Mantis is near-useless as a solo ship
lunar arrow
so Prospector then?
eh, I am going with the taurus. Just use the andromeda until it is released.
last locust
So currently is it possible to get the Caterpillar only via renting it?
simple river
@mossy radish U can scan with the prospector and the mole
mossy radish
thats the only options?
mossy radish
alright thanks
pulsar maple
How do locations determine the amount of cargo available
fleet pumice
Hey, can the prospector be used to detect hand-minable ore deposits?
hollow sedge
@fleet pumice Yes
fleet pumice
@hollow sedge Is there a special mode you have to set it to? I'm trying to find stuff on Yela but it's not turning up anything
glacial phoenix
switch with tab to the scanning modus
hollow sedge
It is not common to find minerals more than minable Boulders but i suggest you go to one of the caves on Daymar and use your scanner, from there you will be able to identify roughly 100 minerals within the ground cave.
fleet pumice
ahh, okay! I'll try that
hollow sedge
You can find minerals sometimes out on the open surface but my suggestion for you is to be on daymar for mining ive discovered agricium is more aparent on that moon.
fleet pumice
Ahh, okay
asking because I nicked a Prospector from a pirate during a claim jumpers mission and i'm trying to put it to good use
I don't think I can sell cargo from it so i'm trying to use the scanner to ease FPS mining
hollow sedge
This is my return value after roughly 30 minutes on Daymar. First try of the day.
fleet pumice
Damn
hollow sedge
Also things to look out for as a tip is that if you see rocks in the distance you will see in your proximity fake rocks load in closer to you than the ones in the distance.
fleet pumice
Damn it, I knew I should've bought that prospector...
proven token
Nice run with the prospector
hollow sedge
Is it possible to mining with another ship?
fps mining is possible with every ship. the only mining ships we have are mole and prospector. orion as well but is not in the game yet
marble parcel
Yeah nice run with the prospector! Good Job
woeful kiln
does it pretty much require the helix laser to pop agricum/laranite rocks?
hollow sedge
Helix laser is the best laser I highly recommend getting it if you wanna crack every type of rock. For this update I’ve seen minerals in all sorts of rocks so it varies.
woeful kiln
just spent about 2 hours on my first mining run with a rented prospector, I just couldn't seem to crack any rocks that had good stuff in em
all I got really was diamond and gold, with a bit of titanium
hollow sedge
Where you mining?
woeful kiln
any Agricum, Hephaestanite, or Laranite I saw, I couldn't even get the level to go up at 100% laser throttle
I did Cellin and Yela
hollow sedge
I do Daymar, has a lot of agricium try your luck there
woeful kiln
will do that tomorrow, so long as my rental sticks around
got 30k on my third run, took that as a sign to stop, lol
hollow sedge
Well you can also get a better laser if you have the money to spend on it.
woeful kiln
yeah not really, was hoping I could earn more money with the prospector
hollow sedge
I have mined the toughest of rocks with the starting laser but it took a long time and the right angle of penetration to crack it.
woeful kiln
hrm, I knew distance factored in, but didn't know angle played a part
ember juniper
Hey, if youre trying to maximise profits, at how much % on the final/purple rock do you pick up the A-tier ores?
hollow sedge
I try picking up the purple highlight showing 100% I leave the rest, you don’t want inert material.
ember juniper
yea, i was thinking to do 80%+ on the purple
i did everything over 30% and made 40k for a load so yea, that should easily double the haul
drifting anchor
How do you not pick upp 0% insert materils ?
Do they add them by there self. Becouse I never pick the rocks that says insert materials.
hollow sedge
They won’t say it but if your extracting a rock with 30% agricium you are also extracting 70% inert material.
gilded hearth
Looking for mining party
swift isle
@drifting anchor If the piece of rock is yellow outlined you can break it down further. If it is purple outlined, you can extract it and not break it.
hollow sedge
@hollow sedge what place are you qting to on daymar?
drifting anchor
ok ty
hollow sedge
It was one of the aid shelters near the northern poles of Daymar area.
winged tree
Has anyone cracked the perfect timing from lorville pad to cbd and back before ship storage on a cat?
gilded hearth
LF crew mining! join group 3
spark hound
Got a prospector full, landed at olisar, at terminal, doesn't see inventory, first time, not sure what's up
last locust
Make sure you’re using the right terminal. The one on the wall behind the admin counter.
I was confused myself for the longest time until I saw that.
spark hound
Thanks, that was it
Not a big haul, 6000 for about 20 mins work, was fun, can't wait to try again
maiden steppe
Anyone had much luck solo mining in a MOLE?
unique lion
You can do it. It's just a lot of musical chairs
maiden steppe
I tried one out and found the lasers were only working 50% of the time. like I could use the front one and it was completely unresponsive between 0%-100% power, and I could go to the left or right one and it worked fine. guessing it’s still a bit buggy?
wooden geyser
Did you upgrade that middle laser?
maiden steppe
Tried moving closer, other side of the rock, power on power off and all the usual tricks, no upgrades
wooden geyser
Think there’s an IC about it not transferring energy
maiden steppe
I could also go from one rock to another and find the laser that was working no longer works and the one that wasn’t is so it’s not consistent or easy to replicate
Might just stick with a prospector for now
shadow plume
i cant trade.. i cant find my bugtest freelancer on the tradingtablets and my normal titan i can just fill with stuff but cant sell it because it is not visible for the tablet..
twin tapir
I have sometimes had issues when the ship I was trying to sell from had scrolled down below the trade console screen, even when it was the only ship present.
IE, the console had inserted a bunch of blank lines in the ship list above the actual ship.
spark hound
I'm going to assume you really need that Helix head for the prospector, I've seen some nice rocks but I may as well be hitting them with a wet noodle, no go boom
last locust
Since it seems only size 1 is sold at Port Olisar, the Helix size 2 for the Mole is probably at Hurston?
timid plinth
So is it only the owner of the ship that can sell its contents?
wild oracle
yes
gusty solar
Does anyone know how to fix the issue where extraction mode becomes fracturing mode?
Can’t find a work around
gusty scaffold
@gusty solar
In the Mole: it's best to switch to extraction mode, power off then leave your seat.
In the Prospector: Leave the mining modes, power off then power back up. This only works about 50% of the time for me, so I bed log a lot.
@last locust Both are sold at Grim Hex in Dumper's Depot.
last locust
Thanks 🙂
gusty scaffold
Np - They're about 108k UEC
hollow sedge
@gusty solar the fix is to goto scanner mode, power off, and then leave seat. Its a three step preventative measure. Just junping out the seat is the cause. Do all three and youll get it less
gusty solar
Awesome. Thanks guys!!
maiden steppe
@hollow sedge I’m back on disc for now, while I’m at work
hollow sedge
@maiden steppe see above. Thats the preventative workaround for your bug
Its near impossible to fix once it happens
maiden steppe
I saw thanks I’ll give that a go next time I take the ship out, I’m hoping that using the bigger cargo hold will provide more return per expedition
Even if I am soloing
flint helm
Where do people go to sell ore as a criminal? I shot someone who decided to board my ship when I was at a station and am a criminal for it for some reason. I tried Grim Hex and Levsky but both trade stations the ore was greyed out and would not let me select them to sell.
hollow sedge
Woah my guy
@flint helm wrong terminal. Go down the elevator at grimhex first door on the left is admin go to the right panel. Those are mining panels that has ONLY sell to refinery options or at porl olisar at their admin the terminal to the right on the wall is their refinery terminal. You cannot sell from a cargo trade terminal @flint helm
flint helm
Well the other terminal I cannot select anything in the drop down
hollow sedge
Will have "sell to refinery" in red as soon as you log into the terminal
Because your looking at trade terminals
You cant sell ore frok those
Goto grimhex admin and look at terminals at right
Or look at all 4 in that admin room. 2 are trade terminals, 2 on the opposite side are mining terminals
flint helm
Right, so the other terminals with just the drop down to select things has never worked
woeful kiln
it's possible the port isn't recognizing your ship as "on the pad" too
may have to try storing your ship or re-landing.
hollow sedge
Because they never will because they are the wrong terminals @flint helm
flint helm
@hollow sedge Does this include the stuff you hand mine? All I get is this and it doesn't have a location. That's never worked for me.
@woeful kiln I've done that, Retrieved my ship and then relanded but still not showing a location :/
flint helm
Sure
junior mango
Can anyone help me out with an issue I'm having with the mole?
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/elw2d9/big_problems_with_the_mole_flying_solo/
echo marsh
My prospector said 100% full (filled it with agricium only ) and then suddenly jumped back to 70% so i said "oh that might be a glitch that showed me i got 70%" so i try extracting more agricium AND EXPLODED WTFFFF
rip 30 min and 70k+ uec pain
DONT KEEP EXTRACTING IF IT SHOWS U 100% AND THEN JUMPS BACK DOWN , NO MATTER WHAT
Also something u should know @hollow sedge
swift isle
Did not know that! Thanks for the tip. I have seen that i drops pretty frequently, but on lower levels, tho. I didn't think it would explode when going to 100 and then trying to extract some more if it drops a bit.
wild oracle
Yep, cargo is unstable in mining in 3.8.0. It's in the patch notes and it will wildly fluctuate. Sods Law says it happens when you have a hold full of Laranite. Murphies Law says it happens after it worked fine for 2 hours
last locust
I'm guessing Catapillar is the way to go for shipping now-a-days? Is something like the HULL-[letter] ships even viable right now?
woeful kiln
no, as they aren't in the game yet
Cat is the only big hauler so far
Freelancer MAX or a Connie are your next biggest options
last locust
Ok thanks
ember juniper
how often do the shipping consoles refresh their supply
echo marsh
Depads on the item ur trying to buy/sell
sonic anchor
@junior mango don't leave the mining head on extraction mode when you leave the seat. It bugs the modes into thinking its in the alternative mode instead
hollow sedge
There is a calling all devs post on the forums. I have asked a question about an increase in rock mass sizes for multicrew ships. Please upvote it.
Mining ships that is
ember juniper
Trying to sell Widow at grimhex, however it doesnt refresh anymore (noone else selling)
anything I can do other than sit in a corner and cry
?
unique lion
I have started to see clumps of rocks that must be targeted at mole groups. Today I saw 5 ship mined nodes right next to eachother
And 3 groups of 2
proven token
cool lol
slender steeple
@unique lion ive said for ages that they add things to the servers. Like I see new stuff in the game all the time
they really are working on it
topaz coyote
wait can you buy the prospector from grim hex?
lone bloom
Lepiski, Lorville, and Area 18 for a prospecrtor
topaz coyote
cost?
verbal cradle
2.1mil-ish
topaz coyote
oof
verbal cradle
Or for 150ish with RL Money
primal lynx
glacial phoenix
glacial phoenix
i have only this one and its ok for the ores to see which ones has the highest payouts
woven girder
not too shabby
coarse kiln
What's the website for trade runs?
coral drum
@coarse kiln https://www.gallog.co/trading/
coarse kiln
Ty!
wooden geyser
Where are some good ore concentrations? Tired of aluminum, titanium and gold
unique lion
@wooden geyser most popular places are Daymar for Agricium and Cellin for Bexalite it seems
That's where a lot of people flock too. Although it should go without saying that the rarer and more valuable the ore the longer it will take to find it.
wooden geyser
I’ve had okay luck on Yela for Agricium, but tough to find
wooden geyser
Yes
hollow sedge
Head to daymar and look for tarenite, agri, bexalite only. Break the rocks only if you find them above 3% and extract purples only above 45% and only get those 3
Or titanium break if above 20% extract if above 90%
Can do that for diamond too
Dont get gold
I dont break titanium or gold but you can
Titanium or diamond *
Never gold
hollow sedge
Can do that on yella cellin and magna as well
woeful kiln
it just seems really hard to find the good stuff, I can fly for a long time and never see Agricium Taranite or Bexalite. All I ever seem to find is gold/diamond/aluminum, and filler
finally got my first decent load of Agricium last night, and I clipped a ridge on my way out and blew up :(
wraith tree
Bexalite is on calin but it’s so much faster finding agri on yela. You make less per run but you can make runs faster
woeful kiln
yeah I'm doing 100% pings. Last night was Daymar and Yela, I did Cellin the night before
trying not to be too picky, but somewhat picky, and it still takes me like 30-40 mins per run on Yela
minimum
typically look for Agricium, and after like 15-20 mins of not finding any, I break down and finally pop a few diamond rocks, eventually find maybe one Agricium rock that's usually a pain to break open.
is there a certain spot on Yela I should be looking at? I feel like I'm missing something.
wooden geyser
Same
plus I try soloing a MOLE, so that musical chairs for worthless rocks gets old quickly
hollow sedge
You guys are in a large discord. Should be crewing your mole
I mean i paid two mole gunners 45,000 a peice
woeful kiln
I don't have a MOLE, was just using a rented prospector.
hollow sedge
Also if you guys are miners please goto the calling all devs post on the forums and upvote my question asking if we will get rocks of bigger mass for these mutlicrew ships. It has 27 upvotes now @woeful kiln @wooden geyser @wraith tree @wooden geyser
@unique lion
I hope and pray they plan to go bigger. We got a ship with three helix lazers and the largest mass rock we can find is 8200 which a single one can solo
verbal cradle
92xx was the biggest I've seen.
hollow sedge
I always play a game of find the biggest rock. Got a screenshot? @verbal cradle
wooden geyser
Think that’s about what I’ve seen too
verbal cradle
Nah I didnt think it was that important as i couldnt crack it. Next I'll remember
spare bear
hey, can u buy the argo mole with ingame money
timber vale
@spare bear I don't think so. Not yet.
woeful kiln
I get mixed answers on that, haven't tried it myself
simple river
@spare bear what kind of gear? U mean the mining head?
spare bear
yeah
simple river
@spare bear ya you can. But when renting expires you will lose the mining head unless u take it off before
spare bear
oh ok, gonna try
simple river
👌
wild oracle
Let me guess, you were hauling
glacial phoenix
correct 🙂
wild oracle
That only ever happens when all your cash (or most of it is in the back). That's the way the lady luck plays in the alpha
chrome rover
anyone looking for a mining partner and has a mole?
gilded hearth
I wish i had a mole
proven token
Moley moley mole
Mole is cool i just wish there was a better way to share money atm
pulsar maple
For real? - I finally get enought to rent a prospector again... and the server 30k's me on my first trip and removes the prospector AGAIN.... I mean they are increasing server cap and can't even get it bloody stable as it is 😡 .....
Rant over
coral drum
Yeah that's annoying AF... I've lost count of how many loads of cargo I've lost to 30K also... The joys of alpha testing
pulsar maple
Yer 😄 Just annoys me they are focusing on increasing the server slot amount, when the current servers are nowhere near even being able stable where it is, Priorities 😄
hollow sedge
I just auto-land on PO with my CAT... and it explode with 100k+ auec cargo... I have 0 left.... back again delivery...
granite meteor
🙀
Truly a fate worse than death
Death
With cargo
And for no good hecking reason to boot, that sucks friend, my condolences for your loss
rigid umbra
gotta love that!
worthy scroll
Call the manager and throw the box at them
hollow sedge
@pulsar maple we are on at the same time. Just play with me i literally give out prospectors for people to use
rigid umbra
BTW, is this something that happens often?
I did have a contract to pick up and deliver that box, but I was not able to deposit it when I arrived :
gilded hearth
anyone up for some mining???
buoyant merlin
How do I grade my laser for my prospector some rocks I can’t break
spark hound
You need enough credits to buy the Helix head
I'm working towards that myself
Around 109,000 I think
buoyant merlin
@spark hound so the others that you can buy are useless? Lol
spark hound
Ya, basically, I've blown myself up enough times with the other heads, even upgraded ones. I'm just going to get the Helix and see how it goes
Although a lot of me blowing up is system glitches, server lag issues
buoyant merlin
Hope it works for 109,000
wraith tree
It’s a world of difference
It’s funny, they made all the different heads with descriptions and logos and models and everyone is just “skip to helix”
unique lion
Tbh I think it partly comes down to the cost vs what it gets you
You can get the 100k for the more expensive one in a couple runs with the basic head and just skip straight to it, why put yourself back 12k for the middle ground one you'll get rid of so fast. Also doesn't help you can't sell unwanted parts back
spark hound
In my case I was blowing up, so I figured I'd try one of the cheaper head upgrades and see if it helped with stability when fracturing, but I I see it's system glitches and lag that are my issue, so the Helix head may not be the answer, but I'm going that route anyways
I was mining this morning, prospector, 1/2 hour in and I was almost full, was figuring between 20-30k maybe, thought I try one more, started to blast the rock, wasn't even in the green zone, climbing slowly, next 1/2 second my ships falling to the ground...so something was happening that I couldn't see from lag, or a glitch, frustrating, sure, but I just go do something else and try again later....
chrome rover
Anyone looking for a crew mate good on a drill?
hushed depot
Hello everyone, I'm gonna mine and I'm searching for some crewmembers. Anyone wanna come with me? If yes, send me a PM
pliant topaz
Anyone mining? Have mole, will travel.
proud plank
looking to work. hit me up
sage geyser
so i bought food on daymar but it didn't placed it on my cat
but used my money
is it supposed to happen?
i bought 337 scu
idle blade
Its in there. Just not graphically
sage geyser
oh good
gusty scaffold
@chrome rover how often are you on?
chrome rover
Often enough for right now.
gusty scaffold
I just saw you message, otherwise I would have hit you up.
chrome rover
Oh, okay
crisp aurora
any reason I cant pull the mole out? anybody else having issues?
maiden steppe
Had some trouble earlier, think it was just busy at PO though. I also had 2 moles on my ship manifest so I dunno what’s caused that
crisp aurora
I know about duplicating ships deal just use the highest numbered ship. But there is nobody here at PO just says automatic services cant deliver my ship
only ship it does it for
maiden steppe
Assuming you’ve tried logging out and back in again?
sweet lynx
Where are the best places to mine now? I have to fly for 10 minutes before finding a minable rock on Yela now...
maiden brook
instantgratification!
proven token
Did they nerf spawn %s and rates?
maiden steppe
@sweet lynx I tend to go to Cellin, and down to the Mogote aid shelter, there’s always been plenty to mine within a few clicks of it
tulip nacelle
hi fellow citizen, just a question out of pure curiosity and for research.
What place sells slam for the cheapest? 😄
crisp aurora
jumptown probably
normal torrent
is the hull-e purchasable by making money in game or is it for purchase on rsi only
plush mantle
Everything will be purchasable for credits, just not right now
white cairn
Hull e isn’t even ingame atm
queen palm
If the hull e can play videos on the side of the ship i will instant buy it 🙂
coral drum
what planet is the mining meta currently?
night stirrup
Is there a helmet for mining?? that has a way to see the ores when on foot???
inland plover
normal quiver
Anyone have any good trade routes they would like to share I’m in a freelancer and I was doing one that just doesn’t make me enough money
spare dune
@normal quiver go on https://sc-trading.kamille.ovh/trading/ , select a destination near you without an end destination and find a route that suits you
coarse kiln
Is hydrogen really 0.1aUEC at ArcCorp Mining Area?
wooden geyser
Had my MOLE spontaneously store on me when I exited on Daymar to hand mine something
Was fortunate to get a ride back to PO
boreal cloud
i hope they rework the mole, If the pilot could control the front turret, ide buy one in a heartbeat
idle blade
hope they leave it as is, makes multicrewing more important (if they wrework some rocks to require a ton of power)
boreal cloud
i like the multicrew part, but the alignment of the turrets make it hard to do anything as a team
as the front and side turrets can barely hit the same rocks
idle blade
if the ship is positioned properly they can
do it all the time
multiple lasers are kinda buggy right now anyway
boreal cloud
ikr lol
fkin rip.. ran across a 20% argri rock and my prospector with top laser cant even touch it 😦
idle blade
are you close enough to the point the head is touching the rock? lol
whats the mass/resistance of it
boreal cloud
its the module bug.. ship says i have the upgraded stuff, but i dont
cause my prospector duped last night when i died
vernal birch
anyone know how to unbug the mining laseer on the mole?
idle blade
the bug where it stay at 0% no matter what?
vernal birch
guy in server general chat told me
you have to leave the seat when youre in extraction mode
if you leave the seat in extraction mode it will bug and do it again it will unbug
green edge
anyone have any traderoute suggestions for a FL MIS?
rose night
green edge
thank you sir. I'll check it out!
opaque badge
I've been running stims
errant cradle
whats the circular route option in gallog?
idle blade
kinda like a return trip thing
quartz basalt
What's a good area to look for high value ore or high percentage ores
proven token
yela's surface
quartz basalt
Thank you!
plush mantle
anyone know how the atmo performance of the pisces and titan compare?
mortal linden
Pisces can do around 300mps, Titan ~170mps, iirc.
plush mantle
cool, thanks
white cairn
pisces can also boost forever in atmo
at least forward
your other thrusters will overheat but you'll never stop going straight
plush mantle
Oh nice. I was wondering why it was getting attention for deliveries
fleet pumice
Hey, so you guys know how there's that little door in the back of the Prospector?
What does/will that do?
coral drum
what door is that?
fleet pumice
NEvermind, a quick google search answered my question
it appears to be for the refinery
coral drum
didnt think the prospector had a refinery
boreal cloud
i mean, it makes sense
since the whole back of the ship is not accessible
and there is a trap door under the rear main thruster
frozen niche
where do people normally ship mine at?
echo marsh
Daymar, cellin, secret astroid belt...
frozen niche
can you just pull up to like random spots and start mining ?
echo marsh
Daymar is ez and profitable, cellin is weird (sometines very good sometimes really sucks) and the secret astroid belt is annoying to reach but more profitable
frozen niche
where is the secret belt?
echo marsh
I dont have the map someone made
Cus my pc is kinda dead rn
I honestly suggest for u daymar , its quick ez and profitable
frozen niche
is the secret belt the one off grim hex?
echo marsh
Nope
frozen niche
hmmmm
coral drum
@frozen niche
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/e8ohoj/visiting_the_aaron_halo_asteroid_belt_a_quick/
frozen niche
dam thats effort
coral drum
not really, just power off your ship at a certain distance
frozen niche
worth it?
echo marsh
What secret ores? 
frozen niche
the ones where if you mine it someone comes and kills you 🙂
echo marsh
neat tartan
guys is hand minng worth it?
molten valve
not for me... just got a full hadanite rucksack at one location and it still took too long for 16kaUec total. Ship mining for agricium, laranite and upwards is much more profitable for my taste
wild oracle
@neat tartan Everything is worth trying if you haven't done it before; call it exploration and familiarisation. But, doing anything to make money is a useless pursuit until 'persistence' of your efforts becomes a thing.
@molten valve A rucksack of Hadanite should have net you 33,000, full one of Aphorite is 18,300 and Dolivine is 15,600. So, either way you cannot have had a full rucksack of it
spark hound
Why am I not seeing the rock composition when I have the reticle on a rock and scan
spark hound
In prospector
wild oracle
jump in bed, logout, and try again on a fresh server
spark hound
Thanks, actually I just looked/turned in another direction, came back and could scan
wild oracle
It just means the server was not communicating with the client. The servers are pretty much maxed out and run only at 5 to 6 frames per second; so quickly desync.
spark hound
👍Thank you
wild oracle
no probs at all
molten valve
@wild oracle I had 100% full rucksack of hadanite, so my guess it was an inventory or display bug then
proud plank
looking for a crew member. i pay well
wild oracle
@molten valve For sure, but giving someone advise not to bother mining when your results were clearly the result of a bug wasn't a kind thing to do 🙂
hollow sedge
Hello, what ship is best to use if I just want to hand mine? I can't afford the prospector to have a mining ship that does it for me
I need one that has a scanner though
wild oracle
Reliant SEN
I think that's the cheapest alternative with a working scanner for hand mining. Can anyone else confirm please?
hollow sedge
looks like the light science version has 2 cargo and & S radar, is S radar the scanner I need?
it has '1 scanner' under the utility items section on - https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/ships/reliant/Reliant-Sen
wild oracle
S Scanner just means its a small sized scanner. Let's see if someone can confirm that the Reliant SEN can do that job for you before you spend any money. I could be wrong (as I have the Prospector so can't give you first hand info)
hollow sedge
No worries Im just in the process of downloading the game atm anyway
wild oracle
okay, best of luck
tropic sage
i have 1.9 mbps and have to download it too @hollow sedge
hollow sedge
I'm half way
molten valve
@wild oracle I wasnt giving advise, just my opinion 🙂
tropic sage
I have 40GB left
spark hound
@wild oracle don't think the Sen is available, it's not at my end that I can see?
wild oracle
@spark hound Have to wait for the next ship sales event then to pick one up?
spark hound
I guess, new here, seems lots of interesting ships out there but not available
I'd also like a small(er) ship for just buzzing around the surface with a scanner, just for hand mining, prospector works fine but I'd prefer something smaller for doing the above
simple river
@wild oracle there is no way a full rucksack of hadinite pays 33k
wild oracle
yes, it does
simple river
At least not if your selling it at Port Oliser
@wild oracle when did u try this?
Cause there is absolutely no chance
wild oracle
3.7.2 (Did they nerf in 3.8?)
simple river
They must have cause there is no way u get 33k at least I sure haven't
Unless there is a special place to sell it or something?
wild oracle
Yep, it has been 33k since FPS mining was introduced (with the introduction of the 3 types of crystals) and to the best of my knowledge it hasn't been nerfed
but that is a FULL backpack
simple river
If I remember right last time I tried it which was a week or 2 ago u got paid like 6k for 22 hadinite
wild oracle
22 Had? It takes 13 full rocks of 9 or 10 crystals each to fill a backpack. Of course you won't get 33k with only 22 of them
simple river
Not my point
And a rucksack cannot hold 100 rocks fyi
Mine was 100% full at like 50 or so?
So that would make a full rucksack worth about 13k?
Maybe 15k
wild oracle
I have done it, so you can too. 1 full rucksack, HADANITE ONLY, off you go! 🙂
simple river
@wild oracle u have not done it if u haven't done it in 3.8
wild oracle
whatever
simple river
@wild oracleur a special stupid
wild oracle
LOL
spark hound
Lol
molten valve
looks like it wasnt a bug then 🤔
hollow sedge
Do I need a scanner for hand mining, or can I just check myself? longer but is that possible?
spark hound
Multi tool has a scanner, but only for composition, you can't "find" rocks to mine with it...
You could run around the surface looking for suitable rocks but that might take a while....
hollow sedge
I guess I will just cave mine instead
quartz basalt
You can tag along with someone who has a mining ship
spark hound
Unfortunately without a prospector or mole that's your only option at the moment as far as I know
hollow sedge
and to sell the minerals I find, I go back to a station right?
quartz basalt
Yes
pliant flint
Is it true you can make millions on one trip with the right ship?
chrome rover
No, it's not.
jagged wing
@pliant flint you can make a million over a few trips with a Caterpillar, if you've got several 100k already.
pliant flint
well i have a little over one million now but no caterpillar. Trying to find out to make more money faster in the meantime
hollow sedge
I just hate mining on the dark side of planets, when the new update comes they claimed that there would be an increase in mineable rocks yield.
marsh comet
I hate to ask, but is there a way to see how much a station or post will buy of commodity? feels like im always selling between 4-5 places
pliant flint
any recommendations for upgrades on the Prospector besides the Helix laser ?
wraith tree
Shields
snow loom
idle blade
Just an fyi for that Hadonite argument... its 16,500 for 100% full rucksack selling to PO
raven scaffold
has there been any discussion on moving the commodity terminals to either a closer location to the landing pads/hangars or potentially to the F1 options?
unique ridge
Not that I can clearly remember --- it would be nice to make those professions less tedious by doing that
spare dune
I cant wait to do cargo with the hull series and having a full squad of fighters protecting you from enemies
flint kiln
any way to reduce crashing during cargo runs? I can make like 11k each run in the freelancer they gave us, but when i crash 1 in every 5 runs, it equates to a huge waste of time
raven scaffold
helps if you turn off all other apps besides the client/launcher
don't know, but maybe VPN is effecting it? I suspect it does with me but can't prove it
flint kiln
isn't turning off apps just for clearing RAM? or does it also have other effects
raven scaffold
🤷♂️
i crash less by doing so, but i'm not a high end PC either
i7-4770, gtx 980, 16g ram
500gb ssd
proven token
3.8 has been so crashy it really hurts playing when the game is ment to take time.
night stirrup
what rover is good for mining???
north saffron
No one, unless you are doing FPS
night stirrup
yes fps
maiden brook
can the rover even scan for fps mineables?
north saffron
Sadly not
maiden brook
Shame
So out of morbid curiosity, I have been messing with hardpoint/Erkul and looked up the QDrives for the Prospector. Lightfire is the best for range and fuel usage.
I made screenshots so if anyone wants to look at the stats..
limber kindle
Where do people go to mine with a mole?
queen palm
Personally I put Atlas everywhere, its a good compromise
vernal birch
i got to daymar
ancient surge
I never look at quantum fuel consumption, quantum fuel is just super cheap
Time is just more valuable
wraith tree
Consumption matters if you’ve got a small tank