#industrial-professions
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Avenger or cutless
BMM isn't for sale right now I don't think
then cat
freelancer max 👌
freelancer max owner here that upgraded to a cat worth it
cat to me mean catalyst (im coming from eve online )
^^ same haha
who where you with
where can i sell neon?
The problem with the Cat is it’s made by drake
I really wish showing restricted areas was a toggle or something
aw whats wrong with drake
nothing really, its just a running jab at them. the only real problem is the ships have no armor so they depend on shields completely
you say that like its a bad thing i mean
cat makes me salivate and i loved my drake hat in game during the expo
so are there any external tools to help trading ?
Check trade > commodities then click on commodities that interest you
You can use that to build routes
Pay special attention to refresh speed, vices look great until checking the refresh speed reveals that it can take hours of sitting on a pad to load or sell the cargo
anyone know the cost and location of a Fox fire quantum drive?
Do all moons spawn minables on their surface?
Afaik yes
Has anyone got a prospector I could borrow?
Where do you find moons? I only see planets
they are orbiting the planets
@mossy citrus nice document on the minining head prices and location which of those heads comes with the stock Prospector?
did they remove the R&R at CRU L1?
@timid plinth If memory serves me correct the Arbor S1 is the standard laser on the Prospector. I could be wrong as I have barely played in 3.8 since it was released. It is too buggy to bother with.
MOLE hole is nice if you land to sell ore and are worried about elevator crashers
Just fall out thru the showers 
I bet CIG knew those existed, which is why they made nonsensical head height shelves inside to try and block players from entering
@hollow sedge
@fiery shell thank you
@hollow sedge nps. still trying to figure out how to fix the laser with this workaround
but ive noticed the bug mainly happens when i (the pilot) use the primary laser on the mole
my crew on the side lasers never get the bug
Needs to have that hud while in extraction mode
yea it does
but theres still no energy transfer
no wait, in extract mode
i am seeing it it fracture mode
sorry
Yup you need that broken hud in extraction mode cause the lasers are reversed
@granite meteor where do you find the data for the fields in that spreadsheet. I bought a Siren Q drive last night, but I just had to guess it was an upgrade based on it being military and b grade (instead of c or d). Afaik nothing in game gives you stats for these items
But it might be impossible now. They might of steath patched it up
@fiery shell as i couldn't get that broken hud in extraction mode
@hollow sedge i see
@fiery shell in the past you used to be able to get the broken hud, switch to extraction and still have it. I think its been stealth patched
ok, extraction hud looks like this now
whilst the fracture hud looks like i pasted earlier
lol suddenly it started working
@fiery shell try this. press tab to go to scan screen turn of power and exit seat. then just go back in problem sould be solved
works everytime for me
also if you are done using the turret go out like i said. this will prevent it from bugging again ass i expirienced it
@ebon dagger how do you get out of the turret the right way?
f button power off then f button look right and click exit. that is normal way or press y button.
but for preventing the laser glitch first press tab to scan mode then power off then out of seat.
Alright cause that bug is awful
did it that way a hole day yesterday whitout having the glitch.
my girlfriend took over for a while and went the normal way out of the seat and had the bug.
so i closed down tab power off and exit
went back in. glitch was solved
Anyone find any other secret asteroid belts?
thanks for the tip @ebon dagger
just the aaron hallo that is around the map
@ebon dagger the one next to the hurston orbit?
Is the belt next to microtech implemented
it go's the hole way around the stanton so you can jump everywhere between the 2 lines to enter the belt.
why everybody take hurston to arccorp because its easyer to stop on time.
tip set route that pas by and look at your mobiglass and break QT just before first line and normally you schould and up in the middle
also the belt around yela grim hex is minable to.
but the aaron halo has different stones on the different places you enter it. so its worth to check other entrees as wel
Yup
quick run through on how i use the Logitech side panel
Holy shit this is sick 
@errant cradle to bad that panel is 150$
That’s it? 
Jfc give me that pogger emoji
Who would win, a streamdeck with jpeg macros or a button pad with a joystick on it
I’m like 99% you have it if you search pog in the emote search bar
Nope
I gotta wait till I get home to upload it to CBT
streamdeck with gif macros
Or you can do it
I'm not having an issue with the mouse wheel
I’m not home either 
Mouse wheels for laser strength right? Never mined before
yes
I tend to use the strategy of going to 100% throttle, killing the laser entirely when it gets near the top of the green, and then fine-tuning it when I reactivate it
Although...if the sever lags badly you might explode
I leave it at 100% and just point the laser away from the rock
Hmm, I may try that. I finally got this thing to install to my SDD and am eager to see how it helps loading times
PSA: my SSD was using Xfat file system.
is windows on your ssd too
Nope
Because sc likes a fatty solid state pagefile
And that was NTFS
I would recommend moving a pagefile to it if you know how to
I'll look into it after I see how it goes
But yeah, I was not able to install to the SSD until I reformatted it to NTFS
Interesting
And obviously deleted the launcher and properly uninstalled it
It's so much faster now.
Hoping I don't get that bug. Although considering how lucrative the mole is, at least I can afford a few more
both my character and my mole has it now.
(cant equip weapons on my char, i get the same message on all my guns)
@fiery shell bug started just now?
Is renting the Prospector for a day worth it? Like would I be able to at least afford another day with 1 day of mining?
If you know what you’re looking for yes
If you mine shit rocks you’ll get like 3k a trip and it won’t be worth it
What should I be looking for?
How much money do miners usually make?
What are everyone's cargo hauls usually?
I'm doing a simple loop of hydrogen and scrap for about 40k profit in a Cat
@novel canyon averaging 40-60k with my best mining run at 92k (bexalite and agricium)
Mining definitely seems more profitable than cargo
Wish I could lease my mole to people for a profit cut
timeshares
Trying to make a decent amount with bounty hunting
The initial investment cost is a pain
where do you sell the holiday boxes in Area 18?
Cargo terminals
how long until trading console at mining stations allow me to buy again after i bought all stock?
@novel canyon heres a haul i did yesterday
spent approx an hour searching for the right nodes
Anyone else have this issue? My rentals dissapear soon after I rent them within 2h. And it was the 3rd time today..
How big was your team @fiery shell
me and 1 friend
That’s damn impressive
more luck than anything tbh, but it was screenshot worthy :p
but Yela has a lot of Agricium at times, its a good place to mine
yeah
it will be interesting to see how mining chances once the quanta system comes
with all the demand fluctuations
also the floating jump points
just attempted a venture into the asteroid belt between crusader and arccorp, that will get easier once floating jumps are in
Hi, newer player here, I just got the mole and have no idea how to use it/mine. Would anyone be willing to party up and teach my friend and I what to do?
@fiery shell Thanks for the numbers. Gonna see if there's one that can haul and refine
really looking forward to the Orion which can refine as well
I wonder if refining will be a mini game as well
I think I'd enjoy using the Orion
Might get it as a gift to myself if everything else goes well.
really wish I had bought one when it was announced
but figured there had to be a competitor to the RSI stuff at some point
Back then, I didn't have the money, and I wasn't sure I'd play Star Citizen
I'm still thinking about Chronicles of Elyria
i pledged in 2015, started playing in 3.8 :p
Pledged in 2016. I think I started playing in 2.6.2
the vision for star citizen is insane, i should probably have delayed my start till 2022 or something
but it is quite fun now
A worthwhile investment
It's like the feeling of planting a seed and watching it grow
It wouldn't be the same if you were just getting a tree right out
i pledged in 2013, figured that my 325a and freelancer at the time would let me make money to get other ships
I bought my Hawk and X1 for the same reason
I almost bought the starfarer which would have been my frist ship in years, but held off because no idea what data running might look like
I really wish more ships were not identical on both sides (words fail me right now)
I can see Drake making a Millennium falcon
the carrack could be that
but it just looks meh in it's current form
even the old design seemed a bit boring to me
the corsair is closer sorta
I kinda like how it looks but i dont have 500$ 
Yep
yea
but it doesn't feel like a $500 value
Yep
the question is just how many auec it will cost 😉
I mean its cool and all especially the specs but if i have 500$ i would rather spend a little more and get the orion for example
ok it's a "explorer" but we have no idea what that looks like, and the big cargo bay for a vehicle, are vehicles needed for an "explorer" or is that just for people to say they can load up a rover
@fiery shell probably like 5m
exploring isnt that much of an aspect right now, but a true explorer ship might be very valuable in the future
science crafts as well. the premise is extremely enticing.
Honestly rn i feel so confused, i tried ship mining today and its hella fun but i mean yikes upgrading my cutlass to prospector is 55$ and thats a lot, honestly gonna wait and see before i make a choice i will regret
from what I've heard most of exploring just constitutes scanning areas on planets to find resources where a pioneer might build a mining base or something. Personally I would like to see explorers go into areas that actually unknown completely and would take a long long time to get back to normal space
they said they might find other paths through jump gates and worm holes
but It feels like they need to make vehicles important first
Mining is a lot of fun, but I have lost soo many hauls due to bugs, crashes and bad piloting skills so far that it evens out with other activities
maybe planets that are so stormy or so covered in vegetation that ships cant land
But it's also very noticeable that multi-seat mining is new. The mole has a lot of issues.
I mean this is the first multi crew industry ship
Yes
before this its just been people manning turrets to shoot stuff
many many kinks to work out
Absolutely
the orion might be super complex
For sure, but I think it will be a ton of fun once it gets ironed out
Enormous potential
yeah
science should be fun
MISC has a monopoly on science atm
They and consolidated outland are due for new ships
an ARGO industry carrier could be fun
kind of like a Kraken but for industry only stuff, have onboard refinery and hydrogen capture
Idk why the merchantman looks so good in my opinion
Where should I be looking for mining?
Yela or astroid belts
because its a feminine ship among all these masculine ships
most ships in SC don't have curves
all sharp angles
Everywhere, resources are randomly distributed
Thats why i love my cutlass qnd hate tge freelancer @wraith tree
I like both honestly @echo marsh
Idk the design of the freelancer bothers me a lot for some reason
But its a personal thing
I wish i couldve gotten the carbon mole it looks so good
sure, thats why there is so much variety, we all get something
Ye
I now it wouldn't add much but it would be fun to see more of the fictional companies compete with each oher
Btw i cant even imagine flying my little baby cutlass next to someones javalin
like see Argo try to compete with Drake as being the honest hard working man's ship company
I mean the javelin can eat a god damn space station
@wraith tree i like that idea!
I would like to see drake implement alien tech to try and compete in that area with MISC
like a cutlass competitor that has a lot of armor and shields, tractor beam, storage, but lacking in weapons
Oh that could be cool
for different gameplay styles
like I want to see the Cutlass scaled up, asymetrical... thats the corsair in my head
big honker vtol engines

you mean to tell me the cutlass needs vtol, and this big thing doesn't?
offset the flight cabin like a Cat
give it big like dual pairs of the cutlass engines on each vtol (like they were saving money by reusing engines)
Lol
pad the interior walls with cheap foam
Actually never heard of this ship before looks almost exactly like the carrack
its the carrack competitor I think, but the scale between the two is odd
yeah
its smaller
this doesn't feel right at all
I really wish the freelancer vtoled
it did in the original commercials
The falcon has to be bigger than the cutlass
has to
It looks tiny in the diagram
the seats alone in that falcon scale would be tiny
the yt1300 is a freighter
the cutlass can do some freight
but its not what its meant for
so a dedicated freighter would be at least twice it's size
adding VTOL to some ships really messed things up
That's the old version of the Cutlass, the new one is larger
which makes the scale worse
I wish CIG would show us concept art that was rejected
I mean they shouldn't because we'll obsess and demand that X be made real
I just love concept art
Same
Btw we need solo mining ships from other companys
There are only like 3 ships planned/exist in general rn : orion , mole, prospector
I just really hate the prospector design i need EDGES
man i would love a drake mining ship. it'd be like, an oversized spinal-mounted mining turret strapped to a giant engine
Omg yes we need this
MISC and banu are like the only ones making ships that have curves
RSI is like the worst in my opinion
its all overly complex flat sheets that look frail
MISC and banu are like the only ones making ships that have curves
Origin (and whoever the hell broke into the Carrack design room) would like a word
oh right, origin
forgot about them
@echo marsh this is the original freelancer concept
Ok who the fuck made it ugly, this looks so god damn good
That’s what I’ve been saying lol
Watch the commercial and you see it use the engine gimbals to brake, roll, and land
It still has so much potential, and it needs some updates And they know it
There ladder airlock is tiny and won’t fit a person, the rails for the turret block stuff from being loaded
There are things
I wish I could be like a director of design just for ships
is obsidian fracture-able with a single helix laser?
i've tried on differnt mass sizes and diff resistances and don't get a single tick. I ask because some times it seems that it's just lag.
or is obsidian minimum two laser always?
how close are you getting on the rock?
optimal range stats 75m but im pretty close.
I dont think i've ever cracked obsidian
nm, i just cracked a 6k mass .33 res obsidian, might have been a bugged group before.
Anyone looking to be a crewman in a mole?
anyone wanna go do some mining with my mole. if you want i can let u fly. i jsut want another crew member
@wraith tree if you're a subscriber, apparently they publish a lot of concept art in the vault and jump points
And there's always r/RSIsubcribers
A lot of the Hercules concepts were really cool
I personally wish we had more large transatmospheric cargo haulers
Hey i have an issue with equipping my multitool, would this be a place that could potentially help me?
#star-citizen probably for a quicker answer
Thx!
Guys how much i earn per hour with the prospector ? im thinking about renting it
If you go yela, you can probably make your 42k back in around an hour, with a helix and some luck, you might be able to get around 2 trips per hour of 50k+ each
So around 100k per hour
47 hours to caterpillar

I just nicked a pirate Prospector lmao
Is there any way to remove the cargo that's in the bags?
Freelancer concept drawing? similarities exist.
posted in the general spot on accident, hi all, anyone know where to sell ore on area 18?
@solemn dew In the ArcCorp-building in Area18. Up the stairs. There are 2 sets of terminals, if I remember correctly.
@swift isle the ore we mined at area 18 says it's illegal. any thoughts?
i have it stored on my mole atm
i thought area 18 allowed the same trade as PO
good thread https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/ej5blq/the_pilot_should_be_able_to_monitor_the_mining/
Hi @everyone, I'm looking for three experienced miners to come mining with me on my Argo Mole. PM me if you're interested!
Watch out for desync
Been on it for 30 minutes, It won't go above 26% - Don't think Desync is an issue on these
Weird
Been like it with every rock on this run
EVERY ROCK....
OOF
Got it up to 17% then it drops to 0%... Honestly winding me up today mining lol
Can you put Size 2 attachments on a prospectus?
No
which moon can i sell what i mine on the moon so i dont have to fly back to the main city?
I mean that's just harsh...
Don't sell there, and don't mine there, Criminala galore that will just shoot you for fun
Hopefully, at some point, it may become possible to sell/refine at the orbital platforms to avoid the wasted time ingressing and egressing atmosphere's.
The only place like that currently is Port Olisar. If you want easy selling then stick to the Crusader corner of the map
@pulsar maple get a helix laser
Can't afford one :/
Legit hired a prospector to earn money, and every rock won't break :/
Rage quit, spent 58k on a mining head, Got my first real haul... Was being chased into the dock by two players, just crossed the armistice line, game crashed, lost the cargo, and can't the ship back out.... fml...
There are a few that do enjoy preying on miners. Be mindful of the distance you are pinging the scans
@pulsar maple yikes
Lost to crushs around 300k total of cargo (every time it was my entire balance
)
😦
is mining a good way to earn money and what is a good entry ship
My mate and I can regularly make between 24k - 47k depending on how picky with it with ore purity. I started with a prospector and tbf there really isn't much choice
But really need the 100k+ Helix head to make it really work for you
dosent the aurora have a mining variant
Someone else would prob have to answer that one!
No
Currently only ships that can mine are Prospector and Mole. If you don't have any of these you either fps mine or rent Prospector
how do you fps mine
You buy armor with backpack, multitool with mining attachment, take search missing client mission and go to cave searching for shiny rocks
If you want to see how mining looks like better find some fps mining video
Not very much I would say, getting maybe 10k/hr on average including 4k prize for finding the client, traveling back and forth or waiting for game to kick me (getting stuck often where the client is unable to climb back up). I didn't play much though so more experienced cave rider may do much better
if you log out to main menu and back in check you money. happend once to me to and money was on my acount after log out and back in @proven token
what's a good trading route for a cat with 500k spare change?
"Spare change" 
i tried astatine but no outpost has sufficient stock
How bout scrap? U should be able to fill ur entire cat for 300k
(From what i remember)
there are some
scrap metal to fill a cat is about 70k
i checked yela and wala, both managed to fill the cat for about 15%
interested in longer hauls or shorter hauls
laranite from wala to area18 will also not let me fill the entire cat
i don't care if long or short if time/reward is ok
very well, Ill send you something
much appreciated
@brittle cove mind sending me something too? Lol
what is your ship cap and starting funds
ope, one second, ill be needed to change out the dishes
be right back
Caterpillar and about 200k starting
Everyone is hitting up Wala > A18 so stock is low
What about hydrogen Yela to PO with a Cat. Pretty good money maker?
Agri supplies from Po to Bountiful, distilled spirits from bountiful to Yela arccorp mining. Hydrogen to Po rinse repeat
Also does the Caterpillar flipping only happen to the standard cat or is it all 3 variants?
flipping?
landing complete
did you have a friend
that’s why lol
Wtf is that lol
a bug
Did your ship snitch on you?
Hey, where do the FTL Couriers missions show up?
Aphorite is the thing u should never mine right?
I thought it was dovaline.
yea its Dolavine
I ignore everything that isnt hadanite
Aphorite is ok
Personally lol
Oh ok thx
If your hand mining in a cave i take everything
But flying about, wastes time if you have to get out
what areas are good for mining in a prospector? and what ores should i be looking for
hand mining still don't take dolovine, next to worthless and explodes pretty much every time, take the other ones
Yela, look for agricium or what ever
@static schooner
@fiery shell sweet thanks!
I think CIG's math broke somewhere
We need to be able to filter inert
filtering is the function of more advanced ships, see: Orion
With the prospector i cant mine anything bigger then 5k , i assume the helix head is a fix?
Yes
cmd
How do you see how long you got left on a rental?
@fiery shell Do you have an updated price list?
So thoughts on the mole. The pilot or Co pilot scanning should show the element reading since those seats are like the manager of the mining op. The lights need to illuminate everything that the pilot and miners see, not just forward, should be like a work site light. The floor of the pilot cabin should be glass so they can look down across the miners field of operation
Odd it crews 5 but only 4 bunks
Does anyone else feel like moving your mining laser around on a rock increases the rate of which energy is put into the rock?
I was trying to crack a 0.45 resist 4.5k rock in my prospector earlier and couldn't crack it, so I started moving it to see if it changed by hitting a different place, and as I moved it the energy clearly spiked and every time I stopped moving it dropped back down to zero
I ended up cracking it by constantly drawing the laser back and forth areas that I hadn't previously hit
Ye i noticed that but didnt want to waste time on doing it
what are the best places to mine? also i cant seem to find asteroids that can be mined
try a planet surface
that feeling when you lose a 55% full cargo hold of carefully mined agricium 
like yela
@fiery shell incomming 30k
where can i buy mining heads?
oh ok thanks
Leveski has the s2 helix
PO has the s1 helix i think?
Leveski has both either way
finally managed to rent a prospector and holy shit its fun and profitable but without the helix head i am wasting so much time cus i mainly find 5k+ rocks
wait wdym s1 and s2?
the mole uses a different one I believe
I've got the helix and can't break the 5k rocks with it if they're valuable ores
Mole uses S2 atm, but it is suppose to just have ONE s2
Jimmy
Get point blank
You gotta get close range matters
I've been poking the fuckers lol 😄
Ah wierd
just to make sure, u did equip it properly right?
just logged back in and lost my prospector :/ i knew it was gonna happen but its annoying, only had it for 4 hours
I'll go put on my 100k attachment then shall I
soooo i f'd up and filled a Cat full of stims....any rec for offloading these?
lol
smells like insurance fraud
@idle blade you shoulds there is no place were u could instantly or even in a short time sell them
figured as much, so im stuck waiting at terminals for the supply refresh
this might take a few hours
yep thats why doing full cargo runs of certain stuff (mainly drugs) is not advised
probably shoulda looked into that first eh?
u should do titanium or scrap and staff that earn less but u can finish super quick
welcome to my world every day in this game since 3.8 xD
doing cargo runs server crashs, rents prospector iose it after loggin out
yikes
Is the scrap run from yela to po?
Ive been thinking about finally delving into some trade
Is there a bug with rentals? I can't see how long I got left to rent it
yes rentals have a few bugs, known issue listed in the patch notes
In AC you can only rent one item...
I just filled a Mole with ~40% Laranite...30K'd 😭
did something change with ore? Filled a whole prospector with agricium and got 23k. Granted it wasn't the highest percentage but could easily get 40k before
... parked the rented prospector after a few hours and now I can't get it back
wish they would fix the renting issues
Thank you Ramzey
@echo marsh if you make a mistake like i di with the Stims, you can sell them all at lorville
Wait fr?
@green edge they didn't change anything that i know of, you just need to pay extra attention to the % of ores. if you actually filled a prospector with 100% agricium, you'd get at least 80K for it
23K tells me most of your mining haul was inert materials

hello
I just joined the server. I've been doing some ship mining and bounties but I feel like it would be more fun to play with other people

you might try the voice channels and/or #looking-for-session @tribal gust
What is more important in a mining head for a prospector - power transfer, or resistance modifier?
Just save up for the helix
@sweet lynx power transfer let's you crack bigger rocks
3k power transfer, like what the helix has, let's you crack anything
Default head is 1,400
Middle ground is 2k
Ya the hoftstede isn't bad if you overclock it while saving for the helix
Does overclocking work on mining heads? I've heard it's a placebo
I had a rock a few days ago I couldnt crack no matter distance and power % with hofstede then I oc and I could just barely crack it so either I found a perfect distance or it gave me just enough
whats wierd is the S2s on the mole (There is only suppose to be an S2 on the front head) have the same stats as an S1
The mole is suppose to have one S2, and two S1s on the side
What like the same stats as a prospectors s1?
So a mole is like a larger prospector plus two more
Ya will have to compare out puts etc
i dont believe so?
theres no dynamic buying/selling yet
its all just set
it might be interesting to see ores be more dynamic
certine factories needing certine ore
Holy shit I hope trade websites and such get easier to read or we are fed live market data
That will be a nightmare to keep track of
mining in yela's belt is great
one laranite rock netted me 60k
my normal runs are 80-100
I'm done until next update... Game crashed and just took the Prospector I rented and my helix minehead... I literally rented it an hour ago, Now I don't have enough money to get another...
Probably back tomorrow... But man that's annoying as fuck
Fair enough, that bites, sorry to hear it
Bugs, but annoying asf - Hard enough fighting the current bugs to continue playing, but having the balance wiped like that, and losing what you paid for...
Might put this down until next update, hopefully they fix stuff
when looking at a rock, and it says for example
Name Gold
Composition 34.02 100
what do the numbers under gold mean
34.02 is the actual percentage
ah i see
and how do people mine asteroids without dying? I always bump into them because I can't see them until it's too late, and the argo mole takes so long to come to a full stop
@pulsar maple You want to have my prospector for the day?
I won't be on tonight, you can use it to earn cash at least
Has a helix head
Unfortunatyely you can't sell from the cargo on ships you don't own, Otherwise it would have been nice too thanks @last maple
Ahhh okay
@neat pier In your typed example that is a piece of gold containing 34.02 UNITS and is 100%. You were incorrectly advised that the percentage was 34.02%. No, it isn't. It was 100% of THAT piece of the rock that you were examining, and it weighs 34.02 units
So, I assume this was a cracked rock and this was an extractable shard remnant just before you hoovered it up
@neat pier When using the Mole or the Prospector; both have terrible brakes. So, when scanning, and flying about looking for hits make sure you set your VELOCITY to something around 50m/s if on a surface; or at the best crusing speed indicator if in an asteroid field. When moving in towards a hit, always fly to the left or right of the target. Note the DISTANCE and change your speed according to that. Turn your lights on with T may help. Other ideas are to mine with the SUN behind you, so do your scans flying AWAY from the SUN and out of the Solar System. This ensures 100% visiblity of the asteroid field with ZERO chance of hitting something dark on the way. It's not rocket science; seriously.
thanks for the tips
What should I be looking to mine with the default prospector?
Most of the agricium and other high value ores I find have stupidly high mass/instability
I'm also just started using the default prospector. Found some ok rocks with gold and diamond that looks to have good value. Looking forward to buy a new mining head, tho. 🙂
I'm also usually mining some minerals with the mining tool and put it in boxes in the back room in the prospector when the rucksack is full. Could sell that just fine from the console at Port Olisar.
Yea I only do fps mining if the server is a little stable
Good point. I also got 5x mining tools in my inventory in case it "disappeared" :p Then I found out about the inspect workaround, and haven't had any problems with it disappearing/not firing after that.
The disappearing issue is fine
But the times when I die because the rock blew up because I "overcharged" it
That's tilting
Aah, I see. I haven't had that problem yet, at least when it wasn't my own fault.
It doesn't always happen, but it happens enough for me to not want to fps mine
Understandable.
So? I just look for diamonds?
Sell that until I have enough for the helix?
Question, if I rent a prospector and have the head on it. Does it disappear with the ship when the rental period ends?
Well, I'm not that experienced yet with it, but I found that it seems to have good value and usually in rocks with 2.5-5k in mass.
That I don't know, so can't answer you on that :/
@latent axle unequip it before the period ends. Should get to keep it then
i need a better place to mine. I got a mole but im running it solo. and cant break the good stuff
Sho you need the Helix S2 for the mole.
Then you can break everything
108k
Leveski sells it.
ya i saved up my money for it and bought the s1 not knowing the difference @proven token
Mine at Yela, surface. Go for agragrim or what ever
Oh sorry fam
You want a miner?
I'll hop in your mole
you don't gotta pay me but it will be faster
that would be very helpfull
Ok, whats your star citizen handle i'll add you
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@neat pier According to my research, if you scan rock with regular scanner, if you see this "Composition 34.02 - 100" for example gold, it shows that once you sit on your mining laser it might have between 34.02% - 100% of gold in it, but 34,02 is minimum, which you will find there.
The point there is that normal scanner will give you general idea, what you might find inside the rock, but mining laser scanners are more accurate 🙂
I reviewed the Mining values/ locations, more clean and filtered. Info is based on the space4games mining guide
The Raw Materials on the right, is that just what you can find on that mining location?
Also, whats the name of the website to use for trading. Giggalo or something?
Galacitc Logistics - The Premier Logistics and
Cargo Organization for Star Citizen. Join our Convoy of Dedicated Captains
and make your name in the logistics industry with profits to celebrate your
success, Allow us to give you the tools and conn...
Thanks ❤️
on the helix mining laser, what can you put into these sub item slots?
@rugged viper Materials on the right is what you can find. I didnt list anything under Beryl since its not worth your time to mine those
@queen palm Nothing at this time, but in future there will be consumables to boost aspects of the laser with them
@hollow sedge the information in that sheet, is it usefull when mining with a ship as well?
@neat pier That is for ship mining
great news
any1 know the controls that controp the mining turrent speed
control*
its really slow have to drag the mouse several time to aim right/left
Scroll wheel
ok ty gonna try it
guys im stuck with a decision between the Freelancer Max for Trading and the Prospector for Mining. i like both activities equally, so any advice is greatly appreciated. Price difference for the upgrade to these Ships are 5$ - so yea... 😬
You make faster money with the Freelancer Max, but mining is more fun. However the mining seems buggy as hell at the moment, so yeh
I've got both for info
do you have any other ships bertoo? the freelancer is a pretty decent combat mission runner too with its built-in gimbles on the S3 guns
the max's agility is lower than the other freelancers but it's still serviceable just from all the dakka and shields
(it's worth noting that server instability can really mess up your day with trade runs though. gotta be aware that you could lose any given haul)
@plush mantle dont worry, i wouldnt invest all of my cash in a single run ^^
lol, kk ^_^
then either would be good. i'd say the one thing that might sway me is that you really need to be the pilot to haul, but you can be a mole crew member and still do some mining. but you can't really make a wrong choice here
and you can probably use whichever one you get to pick up the other with credits
i have the Hornet F7C atm... but i dont really like combat as i thought i would... so i did some transport missions and really liked it. then i bought a hand mining tool and its fun, but can be tedious
Thats the goal Tuesday... get cash to try other ships and do all kind of crazy stuff 😄
lol, yea
high-volume hauling is probably the best profit you can make in the game right now, but sometimes losing your shirt is rough
also my friend who hauls says that sometimes during primetime hours the destination stations are full up and he has to wait to unload a lot of cargo
so there's ups and downs to each
is there any way to split money between people in a MOLE?
holm: not right now but they're going to add it in the future. you have to do the silly beacon thing at the moment
I got the Prospector because after next wipe (hope it's a not for a long time), I can undock and make money right away, no risk, no start up money. Have the max too, but that thing need start up money and have a risk after a new patch for new bugs.
yea, that's a good call
well if I could make the silly beacon thing work that would be fine. I keep trying to rent prospector only to lose after a couple of hours so I gotta try something else
most mole pilots should be able to get the beacons working by this point, so it's worth a go
they're fiddly at first
anyone find any places more profitable than the yela asteroid belt
@austere creek thats something i wasnt thinking about.....
anyone get handmining to work? I can't even equip the mining pistol
bind a key to inspect and hit it twice, same as the gun bug. remember to buy an ore bit as well
@plush mantle that wasnt cutting it for me... i was looking at a rock with purple crystals sticking out of it, but my mining tool didnt even bother to scan it
Went for my first ever hand mining session today in a cave, new to all this, made about 15k in the hour I was down there, was more worried about getting lost, had glow stick things but after being able to activate and drop the first one it didn't seem to work anymore, anyways had a blast, need to get down there and prospect some more
there's a couple of rocks with a really weird interaction point. like it's the very bottom of the rock instead of the middle. might want to try pixel hunting a bit on that rock, or try a different one
what commodities are illegal ? dont want to get in any trouble xD
I saw that to, had to move around a bit on the Rock or it would stop
you'll know em when you see em, bertoo. they have very clear "I AM DRUGS" naming conventions
oh ok ^^
the ones that come to mind are like... widow, neon, slam, etc
hmm... i wonder how long it takes the game to realize that i upgraded my ship... RSI Website still shows my F7C
apply the UPGRADE in your account, logout, respawn launcher and try again
upgrades (CCU) do not apply in game until you formally apply the change in your HANGAR in your account
oh ok... now i see it @.@
Hi. I'm new here. Just getting into SC and I'm interested in learning the mining mechanics and the profitability.
welcome, it's all pretty simple at the moment; but holler in here if you have questions
Look for GUIDE players who are online. You'll find them in SPECTRUM; or ask for help in here if you want to mine with someone who is in game who may be willing to show you the ropes
Ok. Thanks!
U can ask in #looking-for-session btw
Have anyone ever found an area where you can actually be 3 people in a mole mining?
Mineable asteroid clusters in the Aaron Halo (orbit of Delamar and Crusader)
You will have to hunt them down; groups of 4 to 7 minable rocks can often be found in the halo
If you get blow up with ore. Do you lose the ore ? Or is it stored safe ?
You lose it
Only items in your personal inventory are saved (hand minable rocks for example)
ok ty
yeah when i was mining in Aberdeen cave I got lost, stuck in terrain, got mad and quit, relogged in after i cooled off lol, when i woke up in port i had full inventory still so i was able to just sell and go back
so i guess quitting instead of finding my way out saves a trip? for now
LF laser operator for my mole, pay is 40% of profit
yes, instant teleport; backspace does the trick when on foot. Just be sure the inventory is in your backpack and you are good to go
thats a little broken but ill take it lol. i hate that cave.
i must be doing something obviously wrong when trying to find my way out
keep the wall to the RIGHT and aim back towards you ship marker - simples. Just keep a wall at your shoulder and keep following it. It always leads out
The cave usually has two main branches, and sub-levels within them. Just keep going up and keep a chosen wall to your shoulder whilst aiming back in the general direction of your parked ship (which is at the entrance).
basically when i found the body, i was stuck on that level and just frustrating myself as i kept looping back
ill take your advice when i try later lol
but at this point if you can just relog and reclaim your ship its like why bother
The climbable cliffs are always marked by a horizontal yellow line of 'moss'. Look for those from the lower levels and hop your way back up and out of there
yeah i knew that much, i had made it out of one of the caves before, i would go up as far as i can and it led to a big room that seemed to be the shape of like a donut with paths on the outside that sort of looped back to the main room
ill try again
How often is the body in the cave? I’ve never managed to find one
ive found it both times ive taken the mission
The body is often missing because the MISSION system is baulked. You are lucky if you get the mission and its actually there
Ahh ok thanks, that’s what I thought
once i had to crawl through a tight squeeze that led to it
yes, you do have to get down low, and dirty; on ya belly style
i hate aberdeen because that low grav is mad annoying
helps with fall damage potential at least
another tip for the mine missions is to fit the TORCH to your gun, and use that rather than the Helmet Torch as it lights the way more clearly. Use the U key to turn off the attachment light on your rifle
Nice, thanks
Is the Impact II worth getting. I can affoard it now
Hate it when some rocks are nor mineable
Useing the Hof atm
save up for the helix
ok ty
Hi guy I have a quick question. What would be the best trading route for a small ship I only have a 300i and I’d like to play while actually getting some Auec to rent and fly some other ships
How much cargo does that hold?
try https://sc-trading.kamille.ovh/trading/ tydeezy. but be aware that servers are still crashing now and then and you can lose your cargo
the bug where you QT straight into a planet happens sometimes too. hauling can be a little risky
Omg! I gotcha thanks so much.
If you don't have much cargo space, it'll be more efficient to do deliveries. Because cargo doesn't really become effective until you're able to carry a decent chunk of it. I mean you can always do it no matter what, but you won't be making very much profit at all where is deliveries are guaranteed money
yea but the 300i and deliveries is... not a great experience right now =(
stupid belly cargo bug
unless you get really good at yeeting boxes into your cockpit
Yea I should have upgraded to the avenger but I didn’t
Pieces CX8 Expedition is really nice, or at least I find it personally is
I’m think my next upgrade will be the cutlass. I want a Connie but with the shield problems I don’t think that’s a good idea.
i love the aesthetics on the expedition. dogfights poorly though
so not as much of a multi-role ship, at least until exploration is in
yea, +1 to the cutlass. it's a shockingly decent fighter and does deliveries great. 46 SCU also means moderate hauling profits
It definitely isn't the best dogfighter in the world, but I'm doing some little bits of experimenting around to figure out how to make it better
For a start, I've ripped two more size 1 gimbals off of the starter Aurora and slaped them on the other two weapon mounts on the Expedition
even if the connie's shield problems were fixed it's much more of a hauler than an all-rounder. it's very difficult to get someone off your tail in it -- the turns and jets are slow
Ahhh
and it has to compete against the freelancer max in the hauling role, which is a smaller, easier-to-land ship with more cargo room. all freelancer variants are also stronger than they look in solo pve -- all of its turrets get a free gimbal without a size drop
Whoa I didn’t know that
The free gimbal without size drop is worth it. It’s just an ugly ship lol
yea, that's why i didn't go with it ^^;
it's a very survivable ship with a lot of firepower and space, though
btw, do you know about https://hardpoint.io/ and https://www.erkul.games/calculator , tydeezy? the official store pages are usually outdated
Web application for planning and comparing loadouts of Star Citizen ships with detailed component breakdown and summary statistics.
Nice!! thanks!!
yes, the money was there after a relog
well gave relogging a try.. still 700k down and no cargo.. ill have to throw more money and reproduce for report

Anyone got a spot on a mole?
yela asteroid belt @lost vapor
Does anyone have a mole in operation right now?
you might check with the folks in Group3 voice
infantry has been doing multicrew mole runs recently
Ok! Thanks! I wasn't sure which group it was, as I am new.
its not always that one, but it likely is at the moment
also in the future you may have luck using #looking-for-session
is the mole soloable?
@simple river if you don't mind musical chairs
lmao ah ok. ya the prospector just holds so little material figured maybe get the mole but i dunno lol
but ya then does sounds like its doable
just gotta put in a little work to get your first 100k
but once you have the size 2 helix mining laser, you can be making 100k in one trip
dang not bad!! might do soemthing other then mining to get my 100k but ya!
- No trading or begging. Links, when used for discussion, are allowed.
@pulsar maple
Aight, I fell in to that one I guess 😄
imagine begging for money when the entire point of buying into the game is having the ship to make money because making money is literally the point of the game but instead you beg for it
imagine
Can you rent an Orion or Mole?
not that i have seen.
I do wander when i will get a response of any kind from support over my Multi tool Bug.
ive been waiting 3 weeks for a response, dont hold your breath
Well, I wasn't begging for money 😄
so what is pros and cons of a cutlass vs a titan
is hauling still a viable income?
Cutlass has more cargo and bigger guns - Titan is more manouverable
alright interesting
Im toying with upgrading my Stalker to a cutlass - But I'm still unsure
yeah i enjoy my titan and need to enjoy it more, but im looking at cutlass and freelancer as the next option
from what i hear the combat version of cutlass relies on its shield mostly, the core hp of the ship is lower than the avenger series.
Upgraded from the titan to cutlass a week ago, i dont regret it at all
Titan was fun but veryyy limited + had so many issues with it
TBH - I destroyed a hammerhead with my titan... I think the overall structure HP of all ships is low
Yep, with my titan there wasnt a single ship i lost to, npc or player
But with the cutlass it does the job faster and with a friend in the turret it makes life much easier
Also doing cargo with titan is completly a waste of time, with the cutlass u actually have decent profit
is the freelancer viable in combat or is that based on the variant
I've been told the cutlass is very squishy though - That's the thing that puts me off
And can you paint ships?
Not rn
The cutlass aint squishy at all, the shields are a little bit weak (upgradable) + when the actual armor toughness update comes it will be even stronger
Havent lost any battles woth except 2 times- a godly pilot that was my bounty target and managed to destroy everyone that went after him, and once when i crashed into an astroid lol
I've lost a few, I blame desync though 😄
Desync is always at fault 
Im glad you agree - I've won 100% of the time then 😄

Drake ships have really bad armor iirc
So the armor update might make it worse than comparable ships
Nah the drake ships are meant to be beefy while lacking basic human needs
Explains why I killed a Hammerhead with 4 missiles on the titan 😄
Cus armor is not implamented yet + we all agree the hammer head needs a buff badly
I thought anvil was the beefy armor manufacturer
Drake was the cost effective solution for the working citizen
Except no one can afford a Kraken d:
Where do I find a server 😮
Anvil is the "miscXdrake" military manufacturer
Im on yela with prospector i dont find any rocks to mine with scanner?
Best of both worlds but pricy as fuck
I think C or V changes your scanner range
And fly backwards while scanning
And not too close to the ground
@stable epoch wdym?
@granite meteoryou can change scanner range
, used the default the entire time and it worked perfectly for me lol
Yeah you I think you can double it but it gives you less precise markers
Doesn't really matter though, a marker is a marker
Sounda like a hassle tbh
I mean this
Does it actualy scan?
The yela belt is also decent
Yes
You can try QTing to a different outpost
Weird, might be a server thing
Guys where do I find a data storage terminal?
@granite meteor why fly backwards when scanning? And how close to the ground is to close?
@drifting anchor fps or ship?
@drifting anchor keybind inspect item. then inspect it and it schould work
or look at your laser and click inspect
@drifting anchor you still in ch aww t
Chat @hollow sedge?
Jeez are you still in chat @drifting anchor i just woke up lol
Hi ! yes sry I am in a mole
was tabbed
found one thing that worked if you tryed on a non mineable rock and then back to the mining rock
@drifting anchor the lazers are reversed and you getting out of the turret "wrong" is whats causing it. To never cause the bug again to get put of the turret "right" do this
- Press tab to go into scanner mode
- Press F and power turret off
- Exit seat.
Get out of the turret like that everytime and youll never have the bug again @drifting anchor
aha ok thx alot man gonna try it now
Tell your crew thaf. Anytime they get out of a turreet they must do all three steps
ty
@stable epoch still here?
Where are the best places to look for ship-mineable rocks on Microtech? Snow vs forest? Mountains vs fields?
weard i cant sell my stuff in lorville
full load of agricultures but i cant sell it
This should help dQeLse - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uJia0JCt7sL3bvI_89ed-2TThnITCbMPN2yKbf-veAY/htmlview?sle=true#
thanks
Your Welcome
How long does it usually take for materials to retick at trading outposts?
So anyone else notice while mole mining with more than 1 person, the fracture scanning gets bugged to where you see eachothers materials on different rocks?
what cdan id o with the reclaimer right now?
i cant wait till they implement inert material filtering exhausts for prospector and mole...
Hi all!
Trying to figure out at this point.. what would be the best multi purpose craft that would allow for mining prospecting?
none of the mining ships would be considered "multi-purposed" they arent intended for cargo runs... you could deliver packages in them i suppose
^
^^
@old spire mining is a profession, not really something you do on the side, unless you hand-mine
therefore the ships are tailored to it
Can the Pieces scan for mineables?
Pieces? the multitools cannot broadscan however they can scan rocks to identify them when your fracturing them . Ships can scan mineables i.e. prospectors, moles, .. normal ships cannot yet do this but i do think its in the works at somepoint someone can elaborate more im sure .
co mustang alpha question: how do you physically load cargo boxes? is this simply not possible?
@cerulean nova as of right now no, only a few (couple?) ships can. Maybe later once we get utility items for ships.
mouse 2 does the ping, but for mouse 1 whats "scanning radar ping"
i press it but nothing happens
Use it over a ship
And it will give you model, owner and other info
Sorry thought i was still in help channel
is there a chart with the value of all ores etc for 3.8?
You can scan rocks with mouse 1
@simple river sorry was asleep
Flying backwards while scanning makes it way easier to spot deposits
You scan mostly in a circle, you could stop and spin, but if you're surveying then you'd probably want to keep travelling
If you fly forward through your scanned circle, you'll only see the part of the circle directly in front of you (and hud markers at the corners for the rest)
By flying backwards you can see most of your scanned circle for basically no effort while still moving
And 500m should be plenty height, just stay mostly level to the horizon so you don't start flying off or flying backwards into a mountain
@granite meteor All good! Thanx for the answer that will make mining soooo much easier haha
does the mole need upgraded lasers?
To solo the best rocks, yeah
rats
Work your way up to the size 2 helix laser
It’s 100k
Then the world is your oyster
lmao, trust me it’s worth, mining in the Yela asteroid belt with the helix laser can net you 100k per trip
$315 later and the ship still has crap laser
OH DAMN!!!
only if u got skill or on average?
And I live in canada so $315 is more like 500
Small elk do you need two or one laser?
ah $408 actually
Well it’s relatively simple to become familiar with mining and how to prioritize resources
ah ok sweet so say average trip takes what an hour?
80k is my average
not bad
Yeah, it’s definitely enough to start saving up for ships ingame
Do you buy two helix 2 lasers or one?
oof i dont even wanna know what the javelin would cost lol
You only need one helix laser
500mill
I haven’t found a rock yet I couldn’t mine with one helix laser
oh sick! any tricks to finding good rocks? or just luck based
Beyond specific locations, like x planet or x asteroid belt, not that I’m aware of
The Yela belt has really high yield Borase and Laranite, laranite is some good shit man
I hear yela planet is good?
The asteroid belt around Yela, yes
Ah ok. So to make a 100k trip does following the mining guide thats everyone posts work? or should i be even more picky then it says
awesome
Which article is that?
Hey, how come I can't see any personal missions anymore? I had like 8 delivery missions last night, and now I only have 1 mercenary mission, no matter where I go (tried Hurston, Grim Hex)
Ty
np
Try levski?
I think the same thing that happened to my friend happened to me
he wouldnt see any personal delivery missions no matter where, and we ran my packages for hours last night
Weird
and the only thing I could find was that its apperently related to your security status or w/e
but I cant find any more info on that
after a quick skim through the bugreport section... it seems like it happens to anyone who had a crimestat and had it removed.. guess we gotta wait until the first hotfix patch
😐
bleh, helix mining head I just purchased and installed on mole is gone without having even gotten to use it. anyone know the workaround to keep installed upgrades from vanishing?
best place to sell quartz?
Thanks
Happy to help
Gallog said to go to CRUL5 with SLAM. CRUL5 no longer has a rest stop, despite Gallog reporting it was updated for 3.8. With that said, does anyone know where I can sell 300k worth of slam?
what size ship
Freelancer MAX
one moment
starting point
have you tried Cru L1 or grimhex?
wait
CRU L5 exists
you jump to it and the station is there, just not from main star map
Yeah
Also
I think I am just dumb as fuck
Because it might be Hur L5
And I cant read 🙂
is it hurl5
IDK, Gallog is being dumb and is giving me different routes now despite the same info being slotted
you tried versemate?
Versemate is still on 3.7.1
Last I checked
Which was last night
Nothing
IDK man
I have no clue where to get rid of it
grimhex i think you can
You said you think CRUL5 is still there just not on map?
Ill go and check it out again real quick just in case
But ill probably offload at GH
yeah probbaly safest
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uJia0JCt7sL3bvI_89ed-2TThnITCbMPN2yKbf-veAY/htmlview?sle=true This spreadsheet says there is a CRU L5. Gonna try my luck
Thanks for sticking with me on this amazing adventure
That's like 10 hours of selling
Thats okay
Should be there
I went off Gallog at face value
never again o.o
This is my first day of trading lmao
No always click, lol, refresh speeds are what makes drugs a bad option
Always click?
And also having to travel to and from unmarked locations
Always yeah, even scrap is not as good as it looks once one realizes how much fuel they spend on the full profit jumps
Click what?
Boys
It does exist
Thank you for all your help
One final question and this journey will be at an end
Does anyone know where the hidden terminal on CRUL5 is?
Nevermind just found it
:/
where can i use the mole to get alot of money?
There is some higher value stuff on cerlia I read
Havn’t tried it though
Cat doesn’t approve of me mining
@proven token one of these nights we should try getting two moles going
Get 6 other people
And the other arms take size 2 heads on the mole, I thought it was 1 size 2 and 2 size 1s
It's supposed to be, but yeah atm they're all s2s
Also yela belt is pretty good, as is the aaron halo
That would suck having them downgraded to size 1 on the sides
Ok how do I get those damn pepe memes
And sorta related, with the prospector and the mole both using lasers, what are the chances that the Orion will lose that front drill head thing and have it replaced with some kind of larger laser
It also has a large laser though
@wraith tree sure, not sure more then one crewed mole would be even worth it though :) not enough resources to go around
I timed myself, about 30 minutes on Daymar and this was my return.
Niice
