#industrial-professions
idle blade
i skimmed through it, i'll re-read it, thanks
opaque badge
ok, Bexalite then
maiden brook
I dont even bother with the red.
unless its 100%
- Break up yellow rocks
- Suck up the purples. (Look at this picture above on %)
- Blow up the inerts because sometimes there will be rocks hiding behind it. (You want your laser at 0.50-3% range on inerts)
wraith tree
We need a way to use the tractor beam to push rocks around to move them out of the way
maiden brook
@wraith tree that is why I said I wish we had small arms on the prospy.
inland scarab
If you using a prospector you can push the rocks out with the nose/laser arm
coral drum
Should cargo and mining be seperate channels?
maiden brook
They go hand in hand
but yes
Also here is some stats plus price guide on the mining heads. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1irxSEnXMazxT9JIRHny37b65_0bEJF3VEo2Fug-NUFo/edit#gid=0
acoustic zinc
so I'm in the Argo Mole - laser pointed at a shale deposit - throttle at 100% - fracturing sensor isn't budging
what am I missing?
maiden brook
How far away are you from it? How big is the mass?
Mass should be in the upper right corner
acoustic zinc
mass 6258.22 - I'm practically spitting distance away
maiden brook
stock laser?
acoustic zinc
4.25% agricium, 2.47% titanium
everything stock, yes
maiden brook
if so then upgrade to the Hofstede s2
until you can afford the Helix II
anyone with you?
acoustic zinc
is the stock laser not good enough to mine? shouldn't it work, if only poorly
maiden brook
if so they need to focus on the laser
acoustic zinc
I'm doing it solo atm
maiden brook
Stock laser works on certain mass sizes
@acoustic zinc
CRACKING PARTICULARLY TOUGH STONES
Is your mining laser already at 100 percent, but you still can’t get into the green area? Then you have to fly closer to the stone.
Another (future) possibility is the overclocking of the mining laser. Go to the “Items” menu item on one of the multi function displays (MFD). Look for the entry “Varipuck S2 Gimbal Mount” and click on “Overclock”. At the moment nothing changes in the energy display, so it is likely that this feature is not yet active and will only work properly in a later update. But you already know how and where you can overclock.
wraith tree
I thought cargo would be my primary money maker but mining has a great return
acoustic zinc
getting MUCH closer did it for me
warm arrow
lorville buys titanium right? i have it in my caterpillar but at the trading & shipping console in the admin office, it doesnt show up for me to sell
granite meteor
Need to go to the mining terminal
maiden brook
yeah
granite meteor
Oh shipped titanium
Yeah CBD left side
The CBD train is at the starport not the transit hub
maiden brook
When I think of CBD, I think of CBD oils and that is how they got rich. Lol
granite meteor
Take the CBD Train to the rhombus ziggurat from the starport
Does indeed sound like something one would say at about a 9 or 10
warm arrow
if I only have like 150k, is laranite worth it? or just continue titanium
opaque badge
laranite is worth more than titanium per unit
but if you're talking cargo and not mining, go with the one that gives you the best return on investment
warm arrow
am talking pure cargo run
opaque badge
I usually run Agricium
maiden brook
What percentage do you draw a line at when extracting Taranite? Suck it ALL up or only grab those in double digit?
wraith tree
Hope for double digits, but if I’m 80% full and bored then I grab it all
opaque badge
I'd recommend not being picky with how flaky the servers are. get in, get loaded, get sold
lilac hedge
i heard there's a new ARGO ship in the works
maiden brook
?
lilac hedge
Don't ? me i'm just sayin' what im hearin'
maiden brook
Where did you "hear" this?
maiden brook
Not to my knowledge. I haven't heard anything but that doesnt mean I know it or not
lilac hedge
The speculation from my org buddies was that it's a mining cap ship that other argo ships can dock at
maiden brook
@floral pelican have you heard anything?
lilac hedge
but that's 100 percent speculation
floral pelican
Context?
lilac hedge
Another ARGO ship being made
floral pelican
The Argo SRV was concepted a while ago. That'd be the only ARGO ship being made. They usually announce ships first.
Unless it's needed for SQ42, that is.
lilac hedge
Now i don't know about you, but i'd love a capital ship built for extended mining operations
Like an Endeavor for mining
maiden brook
@lilac hedge there is a concept for it
floral pelican
Orion does exactly that
lilac hedge
Oh really?
maiden brook
yep
lilac hedge
oh word, yeah it looks pretty slick
maiden brook
lilac hedge
No hangars though are there?
maiden brook
shrugs Keep in mind things are subject to change during the design process
lilac hedge
Oh hundred percent
But i'd like if there was a ship designed to have other miners dock with it and carry an absolute arse ton of cargo
floral pelican
Ships like the Orion, Endeavor, Crucible and Polaris were all concepted with the old measurement system which means they'll likely all be upsized and potentially changed completely.
That being said, you can do that with a Kraken.
maiden brook
There will be a ship that will extract cargo from the Prospector/Mole
lilac hedge
Was just thinking of the Kraken actually
floral pelican
While the Kraken can't mine itself, it does have several pads and a very large cargo hold.
lilac hedge
@maiden brook Maybe that's the one i heard about?
half grotto
That would be the MISC starter refinery ship
lilac hedge
that would be great for org ops, have like a rotation of those coming to and from a mining location, having its belly filled, and then going back and selling the loot.
half grotto
It was voted on in the ships panel at the most recent CitCon
maiden brook
Starfarer I believe its called right?
maiden brook
for some reason I thought it did refinery too. My mistake
floral pelican
The Endeavor could also operate as a support platform in some cases. It only has one hangar bay that holds a ship about the size of an RSI Apollo, but a science station could potentially benefit from the refining and raw minerals that a miner could bring in. Modules like the Supercollider and the Workshop for example. You could also use your Kraken's mining operation focus and sell those materials toward a Pioneer group seeing how they cant actually build anything they need without the materials.
half grotto
SF might be able to refine gathered material for Quantum fuel, but they may have walked that back
floral pelican
Before it could fit two Cutlass Reds before they were upsized.
lilac hedge
I wonder what the use case of a red is gonna be now that the apollo seems to do what that does but better.
half grotto
Cheaper access to medical gameplay?
floral pelican
Starter medical gameplay. Not everyone can afford an Apollo right away.
maiden brook
@floral pelican check your DM
harsh pond
Hey guys i was thinking about getting a mole for some mining with friends but how would i go about splitting the profit wirh my friends?
lilac hedge
I'm part of my orgs Search and Rescue detachment
half grotto
@harsh pond transport beacons
harsh pond
Hmm okay is it easy to set up or is it buggy?
Also what is the advantage over prospectors?
half grotto
Should be easy, just sell the stuff, get in the ship, leave armistice, set beacon for that same place you just left, land again, repeat as needed for additional crew
Right now, only the larger capacity and looks
harsh pond
Can you use it solo aswell?
floral pelican
^Pilot acts more like a mining operation overseer than a miner themself.
harsh pond
Would two people be enough?
half grotto
Yes, but at that point you essentially have a Prospector with extra steps
harsh pond
I guess, the prospector is so fugly tho lol
lilac hedge
its really not a pretty ship
oblique zodiac
I don't care how ugly the Prospector is, her job is important
maiden brook
I love how she is shaped. She also blends in really well. You have to REALLY be looking for her
patent yarrow
Anyone know how to get cargo at Cellin - Terra Mills with a Freelancer max? I request landing and nothin'
maiden brook
You just land
wraith tree
Mole requires 4 people and teamwork through clear communication and dedication, if you don’t have that as an option at the moment then a prospector is better
maiden brook
nope. Only request are stations and cities. Small habs you just land and you go inside the hab
patent yarrow
went to the screen and no ship showed up
k. but how do i buy cargo then?
also, thanks for the help.
lilac hedge
Part of me hopes you cant have AI gunners on the mining lasers
maiden brook
@patent yarrow there should be a screen
lilac hedge
Then again a big part of me hopes AI crew sucks ass across the board
patent yarrow
yes, I saw the screen, just couldn't pull down my ship from list
i'll try again
report back
maiden brook
@patent yarrow Take a screenshot and show it here
tribal garden
so my buddy just bought 400k worth of Etam, any tips on how to offload it as it seems all spots weve tried to go wont buy the entire inventory we have
tribal garden
thank you
maiden brook
@tribal garden try Orinth to sell E'tam
tribal garden
thats where were heading next, didnt realize you could only sell in small amounts
proven token
Mole will be able to have 96 SCU
SO it will be worth it to have 2 in a mole, but right now its limited to 69
plus when that S2 laser actually gets a stat change i think it will be even more worth it
maiden brook
@patent yarrow Glad I was able to help
wraith tree
And from what I can tell the mole has 2 additional bags per slot so it’s designed to dump bags for someone to pick up so the mole keeps going
Just not implemented yet
unique lion
Mole has 8 saddle bags as opposed to the prospectors 4
Prospector has 1 extra set of bags
Mole has 2 extra sets
So when those are implemented there will be a vast difference in the amount of stuff the Mole can carry as opposed to the prospy.
12 SCU a bag.
8 bags for prospy
24 for Mole
96 SCU of mined material for prospector
288 SCU for Mole
Prospectors main appeal at that point is the cheaper price, ease of use for a solo player, and the fact it can filter out inert material
If you're using a mole you have a crew. One of you should have something to haul bags
If between the 4 of you not one of you has a ship to carry the bags away you'd be better off with individual prospectors
I would imagine so. Or hope so rather
Otherwise remote mining gonna suck
Orion is king regardless due to it being it's own refinery
Prospy can only filter, Orion can filter and refine on the spot
Uh, dunno if it has anywhere to do so tbh. Unless it gets some form of ship to ship docking to do as such.
Or if you can manually load the saddlebags into the Orion by hand and dump em in the refinery
patent heron
Does R&R HUR-L4 not exist?
It' a delivery mission. I can't find the station on the map
oh it's way out there. i was zoomed in too far.
night stirrup
looks like i will need a account reset by what support forums says for my problem
a few of us are hoping for away to pay people for help on the multi person miners
unique lion
More than a few
night stirrup
talking about the people i know in person
unique lion
Only really weird W/A ways exist to do so atm
night stirrup
yep
patent heron
Everything I do in this game is causing my credits to go down. Fines, expiring mission, fuel expenditure, ship damage....
carmine jasper
yeah i was down to 1300 auec earlier today i had to cram boxes in my poor little aurora to get some more money
just fyi i somehow committed a second crime on accident had crime stat 1, went to land on an asteroid to log out and flew into it instead. tl;dr i jumped off the landing bay and flew 9000 meters to grab the package so i could finish the last delivery lol
bitter brook
lol
void basin
what is the best planet to mine?
celest relic
hey guys
i have 205 k credits right now
and have a caterpillar
what's the best thing i can haul right now to maximize profits?
im fine with investing 100%
idle blade
Is asteroid or planet mining better? And wheres a good area to mine with a mole?
proven token
yela surface atm
idle blade
Ty
serene hare
can you fit a size 1 mining laser, like a helix, on a m.o.l.e, and if so, is it worth it? or should you stick with the size 2's?
ebon dagger
@celest relic keep doing scrapruns til 400k than you can fill up with titanium that brings 100k a run
acoustic harness
when doing a transport mission I pick up the box, then... do what with it? just let it sit on the floor of my ship?
flint wasp
Yup
civic linden
can you drop a transport mission box on the cargo ramp of a mustang alpha and just close the ramp ?
twin tapir
Maybe. Sometimes boxes fall thru ramps.
PCs interact with geometry differently than everything else
civic linden
same answer for a 300i I guess ?
celest relic
@ebon dagger wheres the most profitable scrap run?
I was doing Levski Hydrogen to Cru L5 and scrap to levski
but apparently you can only sell so much at levski before it stops
ebon dagger
@celest relic cru L5 cru L4 to PO 30k a run
quick in and out
rain bronze
What is the best mining laser head in lees than 50k in Prospector?
ebon dagger
i am verry happy with the hofstede II at port olissar for 12750 /1
fiery shell
anyone experienced the mining lasers (on the Argo Mole) not working? the energy transfer graph is flat on 0 when attempting to fracture a node
rain bronze
@ebon dagger thx
ebon dagger
for prospector its Hofstede S1 same money same config
rain bronze
Yep made it
proven token
Visper@fiery shell Sometimes the Collect / mine function gets switched
It gliches hard, I have no idea how to fix it... SOmetimes like cycling the ships power can reset it
Sorry broski, mole isn't in a good place right now
hollow sedge
@fiery shell you still in chat?
hollow sedge
If it gets switched. Spam left mouse, right mouse, and tab to break the hud and youll see fracture gauge while in extraction. Press all 3 fast as you can till hud breaks. This is workaround @fiery shell @proven token
fiery shell
thanks, ill keep in mind for next time it happens!
hollow sedge
@rain bronze impact is a good head if you are a skilled operator. The impact is my primary head over the heliz
Helix
Its 55k
hollow sedge
Goto the pollution planet and the landong zone there
They sell all mining heads at clothing shop
Ill put impact head on prospector over helix though i recommend most dont do that
fiery shell
@hollow sedge so I manage to break the UI as you say, but it still doesnt fix the problem
the modes are switched
hollow sedge
Youll fire the purple
Nono
Press m to turn hud back on
Whem you break the hud youll see extraction AND fracture @fiery shell
Thats not a broken hud thats no hud lol
hollow sedge
Press tab or m to fix
fiery shell
yes, figued. But you mean that for the hud to be properly broken I need to see the purple extraction beam whilst having the fracture hud?
hollow sedge
Yes
Itll say fracture and extraction at the bottom
Like both modes are on in the hud at the same time. Itll look glitched
fiery shell
alrighty, thx
fiery shell
will do if I encounter it again. omw to Grim Hex to relog, taking on some more mining crew 🤑
hollow sedge
Yeah that way i can use it to help other players. Ill save it to my phone
ebon dagger
@proven token switch to scan mode helps also to unbug the collect / mine
also power off you turret and power back on helps.
shy chasm
granite meteor
@shy chasm Cellin, Gallente Family Farms or Terra Mills Hydroponics
white cairn
lone bloom
Mining on Planet almost every trip
granite meteor
Try Yela, and prioritize Agricium
If it's not green, I wouldn't bother with it, even Hephaestanite is pretty disposable
noble mauve
Where can you sell SLAM?
Kinda of a burning question for me right now....
Could really use a tip
echo marsh
Still cant rent the prospector, its so annoying oof
queen palm
just buy it ¯_(ツ)_/¯
echo marsh
Im doing a cargo run with a lot of altruciatoxin and my window just minimzed and i thought the game crashed 
marble lodge
echo marsh
Damn that was a succesful run
10 scu of alfruciatoxin (all my money 40k) , selling it for 50k
Half sold now just stuck here waiting for the refresh rate :p
granite meteor
Oh dang, thanks
wraith tree
Where can I find bexalite?
empty glade
I'm finding the MOLE to be quite lucrative hitting up asteroids a few thousand k from Delamar. Oddly enough, I am selling the goods at Levski and haven't noticed a hit to my productivity.
Odd how the multi-crew miner is so good in solo. Sure the musical chairs can be annoying, but the cargo space more than makes up for it
ivory fox
why did they nerf handmining so hard....
at max a 33k haul isn't anything close to op
you're morre likely to get 15k/haul
pulsar maple
Anyone know where I can get a mining attachment for the multi-tool?
coral drum
i think anywhere they sell the multitool
pulsar maple
Well Port Olisar is off the books
I found a multi-tool on a body, Just dunno where to get the attachments
twin tapir
The attachments are sold at the same store, but usually on a different menu
Tool is typically listed as a weapon. The mining head is sold as if it were a clip.
hollow sedge
The tool is on the counter as well @pulsar maple
mighty hamlet
156k on a mole run just now
damn that agricium is killer
got over 100k off 50 percent
laranite is close to the same profit too
coral drum
so whats the final verdict for a solo miner? stick with the prospector or is the mole a viable upgrade for solo mining?
mighty hamlet
mole dude
with a helix laser
what i use
the prospectors scanner sucks compared
takes me 40 mins usually to fill uop
up
coral drum
isnt it a pain in the ass having to switch seats constantly?
mighty hamlet
not for me no
and i have not found a rock i cant break with the helix laser
imo the mole makes the prospector obsolete except for those who cant afford a mole
dapper yoke
Anyone with a working mic want to do some Mining in a Mole?
empty glade
Yeah, MOLE is fantastic. I briefly tried prospector but it didn't seem to hold nearly enough. Switching seats is nothing compared to the time to go back to port and offload almost 3 times as often.
A note on that. I've been running into the bug where the laser won't charge the rocks at any throttle setting. It seems to be related to leaving the seat while in extraction mode, but I need a larger sample size to be sure.
My one issue is I'm not seeing how bringing more people with me isn't going to do anything but vastly decrease my productivity. Either the second will fill my cargo hold with cheap ore, blow up the ship, or just end up doing the same thing I am already doing while I end up waiting on them
wraith tree
It’s likely a problem with the persistence of the server lagging behind
I’ve had it be at 0 charge at 40 seconds then suddenly 100% and blow up
empty glade
That is definitely a latency problem, but this other one breaks that laser until the ship is respawned entirely
I've had to swap to a different seat and that one will work fine
woeful kiln
right now you have to just make sure they know what they're doing, and it's only a marginal help in time taken
in the future when they get refining ships out there like the Orion, it will drastically help, as you can take out the useless bits of ore
so any laser firing is generally helping fill the hold
empty glade
Yeah, Orion is going to be fantastic. If I understand correctly, it can sit in space while cargo vessels take the ore back. In that situation, having extra lasers is a real benefit.
woeful kiln
I can't wait to see a full mining org in full operation
Orion parked in a field, all lasers firing, support fleet of Prospectors and Moles all dropping their cargo nearby to be tractored in, Orion refines it all, dumps the waste ore out the back. Cat/HullX comes in and takes the valuable stuff back to port, escorted by fighters
empty glade
It'll be something else. Probably be a while before the Orion shows up though. I surely need to grab one next sale.
woeful kiln
oh yeah, I'm guessing that one is years out.
the Hull series probably needs to come before that
and cargo transfers in general
empty glade
I ended up getting a reclaimer
Great ship, also totally useless in current game. I ended up melting it for the mole.
Lots of dependencies still left to add for the true economy to take shape.
woeful kiln
cargo transfer is going to open a lot of sandbox play by players at least.
idle blade
@empty glade you using stock lasers or did you upgrade them?
pulsar maple
What am I doing wrong here?
idle blade
Is the arrow not moving?
night stirrup
i have a prospecter if i am on the server at the same time as a freind. then call it up. can he take it to use it with out getting in to trouble with the law
unique lion
@night stirrup so long as you don't file an insurance claim on it while he's using it
filing an insurance claim marks any other copies of that ship as "stolen"
you would still have to sell the ore for him however
night stirrup
ok.. it is sad he could not sell ore though
it he dies by falling into the land scape like i seen happen. and i file then
would he be ok??
well that just means intil you can pay people. it is not worth it
marble lodge
where do you sell cargo at PO?
coral drum
admin desk
marble lodge
ty
marble lodge
so when picking up diamonds as general cargo, is there supposed to be a kiosk like there is at the stations?
nvm found it lel
twin tapir
Not all terminals wlll buy all commodities. Most only accept a small subset
slender steeple
how do I get a load of cargo?
crimson badge
stop at a station/pad, look for a terminal, buy commodities
will be placed into your cargo hold
marble lodge
doing a diamond run in the 890J is uhhhhhh something.
Pirates just tried to stop me, the 890 ate three right to the face and didn't care at all
lost vapor
Bugged Covalex shipping terminals how do i get them open?
marble lodge
have to keep trying until it opens
there maybe more then one box in there by the time it opens
twin tapir
Have never encountered a PC pirate. Are they common?
echo marsh
Nope
thin seal
so what are the best deals rn in terms of trading? Really new to it and don't really know where to start
echo marsh
Depands on what ship and how much money to risk you have
thin seal
890 / 15kish haha
echo marsh
Wait wait wait WUT
thin seal
i just want to use the 890 instead of the titan for the cargo capacity
echo marsh
Were the hell did u get 890?
echo marsh
Oh ok
Use this
You can choose the ship u have and how much money you have and bam it will show you the best trading routes
If u have only 15k i suggest doing missions before that to get at least 50k+ at min , other then that its not worth the time
thin seal
ho ok thanks a lot!
echo marsh
Ofc np
thin seal
btw if u wanna try the 890 add me i may play in a few hours :)
echo marsh
Oh, thanks!
Btw on the monthly sub thing, how do u know whats ship you will be able to fly each month?
thin seal
it's the surprise you don't know before it's available afaik
890 was december's I wonder what the next one will be
echo marsh
Interesting, btw how much scu does the 890 currently have? I heard its bugged or smth rn
thin seal
32 with the bug lol
echo marsh
ye its suppose to have 1600 scu
thin seal
:feelsbadman:
maybe the "bug" isn't a bug and is just to avoid subs making shitloads of auec using it as cargo
echo marsh
Well its gonna get wiped anyway so i dont see why they would do it, especialy that it hurts real 890 owners
thin seal
apparently next updates won't need a wipe bc they improved persistence
echo marsh
Well not exactly they said they will implament platform persistence in 3.8.x so not on this specific patch, dont be suprised if there will be a wipe
thin seal
o no
well it's still an alpha so I won't be surprised of wipes
echo marsh
The full universe persistence (everything stays exactly where it is) they want wont be implamented until like 3.9+ but we will see
primal lynx
Guys
When I manually mine hadnites
They vanish after i do the drilling thing
Or i cant pick them up
What should i do ?
hollow sedge
@primal lynx wait for the patch to not be a horrible buggy mess
primal lynx
i wish they fix it cuz i bought the game 3 days ago and i did 0 progress xD
empty glade
@idle blade Started with the default, then went to Hofstede, and lately a helix.
wild oracle
@primal lynx I bought the game on launch, many years ago, and have ZERO progress, other than my wallet which is now £2,000 lighter as I can't stop myself buying ship concepts or flyables 😦 (Concierge, Chairmans Club etc)
The game is not playable in its current form from any form of progression perspective. Explore, get to know the layout, but don't worry about 'grinding' at this time. Not only is the current patch more or less completely unplayable coz its riddled with broken game-loops, but the overall concept of 'persistence' of anything you do is still a long way off. Many years, indeed. With luck, the 3.8.x releases early next year (2020) will address the unplayability of 3.8 and we may begin to see elements of 'persistence' coming into the platform. Until then, it is a LONG WAY from anything playable. Enjoy what of it you can, but do not GRIND at this time
If you have a basic starter package, then do basic delivery missions (if they are working) and get together 40,000 aUEC. Then rent a Prospector and go out and try ship mining it it. Do things like that, which don't require weeks of grinding, just a day or two here and there so that you can rent ships you don't own and try out those. You could also do basic missions in your starter ship and rent a hauler like the Freelancer or something like it, and learn about hauling between facilities in the 'verse. Treat the thing as a 'development platform' for a while yet; it is not anywhere near 'a playable game'. Don't get disheartened, there's as much fun to be had monitoring and taking part in the development of the two branches of the game platform as there is in actually flying in it
pulsar maple
Well, that's a load of bull, The games very playable now compared too release
wild oracle
at release? What are you talking about?
We are A LONG way from anything called a 'release' candidate
pulsar maple
Hmm, I mis-read the context of that, I thought you was just trolling...
And release as in when it first hit Alpha
wild oracle
I started when we had ZERO, not even a hangar, so no, there was no initial RELEASE. The thing has been rebuilt twice from the ground up too and we went almost 2 years with nothing but a vision on the table
I was a long way from trolling, more over, was trying to provide something which was more than a 'clipped' style of " It's an alpha, chillax"
pulsar maple
Well, If you want to be picky, Persistent is there, just not what you would like, Servers are more stable, Grinding is part of the game, Mining is still buggy. And a release can be whatever you want it to be "Alpha release", "Beta Release" or "Full release" - Again same as persistence, "Release" is there just not what you would like it to be
wild oracle
agreed, that's true.
But, 3.8 is unplayable in absolute comparison with 3.7.2. 3.8 bodes well for the future with SOCS and Planet Tech v4 etc but it was a rushed release and is 2 steps forwards and 5 backwards, until it is at least brought back into parity with the 'reliability' of 3.7.2
pulsar maple
Didn't play 3.7.2 so cant comment, I still feel that where it is now, from where it was at initial alpha launch, is 1000x better, I've actually put more time into the game the alst 4 days, than I did when I first got it
primal lynx
sorry i wont stop playing even if its unplayable
i wont let my grand grand sons enjoy it first
xD
rocky hawk
😄
wild oracle
Well, I'm glad you are enjoying 3.8. My entire org (which is small, but dedicated) gave up with Star Citizen with 3.8 because nothing is reliable enough to warrant group-play, so we put our time into other MMO's in the meantime and we will watch progress for 3.8.1 and see if its worth coming back to. For now, we don't bother
primal lynx
even with glitches me and my friends are having fun idk how and why
wild oracle
Enjoy it if you can, smile and shrug your shoulders when something doesn't work and have another go
primal lynx
yeah the group missions are useless idk why
pulsar maple
Well, I group play with a few others, the only time we have issues is when using in-game voip
primal lynx
i dont like playing solo
rocky hawk
i got my helix today after a bug that wasnt showing in my inventory but today it is available , so i need to know what are subs ?
wild oracle
subs on mining heads?
rocky hawk
yy
wild oracle
They are ancilliary modules that you can fit to further adapt the heads behaviour. NOT IN GAME YET
wild oracle
You'll get the hang of it over time. If flying with mouse then some ships are quite twitchy. You'll develop a feel for it over time
rocky hawk
what speed i should have when im flying on surface
wild oracle
be at or under the terminal velocity for the altitude you are at
it is the WHITE LINE (horizontal) on the left side of your velocity indicator
roll mouse wheel to set that and then use C button to engage cruise control
rocky hawk
i got argo mole 1 , 2 3 and i only had 1 ship
ship 1 destroyed now all my gear are attached to mole 3
wild oracle
argo is bad for planetary mining coz its fuel use rate is too high; go for the HIDDEN BELT in the MOLE
rocky hawk
hmm , i did a claim for 1 but it showing claim 3
whats a hidden belt
fuel i can get for free with claims
wild oracle
log out, close launcher, relaunch launcher, join another region, then log out, shut the launcher (completely) and log back in to your BEST region. That should fix the snags
rocky hawk
ok
wild oracle
There is a system spanning ORE BELT crammed full of goodies for the MOLE. HINT, it is NOT the one you see in the orbit of MicroTech
Your mission is to see if you can find it. There are no navigable points there; you have to find your way there by turning off your engine at just the right point in a quantum jump. I won't say anymore; let's see if you can find it yourself! 🙂
rocky hawk
ok ^^
wild oracle
Once you have that nailed you can regularly do 80,000 aUEC runs in the MOLE, yes, even as a single pilot
Plus, you have the advantage that it is DEAD space and no one else will be within 10,000,000km of you and you can readily log out in your bed if you want a break and log back in and carry on when you feel like it with zero travel time
pulsar maple
Can you bookmark locations?
wild oracle
No, you cannot. There is a cheat way to do it temporarily, but nothing permanent
pulsar maple
Drop a beacon?
rocky hawk
i got my mission so why not , i got my helix and need to wait 8min before i can use mole
lets try 😄
pulsar maple
I don't have a mole yet
wild oracle
Yes, accept a delivery mission, and then use that package that has a 'marker on it' to drop off at your chosen spot. Then you can quantum back to that location. Of course it will despawn when you leave the game session, but in sessions its a handy way of marking a good spot so you can get back to it readily
queen palm
@wild oracle where is that Ore Belt? ^^
pulsar maple
Haha - That's funny
wild oracle
@queen palm it would be a spoiler if I told you outright
queen palm
you mean delamar?
wild oracle
no, not delamar
queen palm
well im not searching for hours for an ore belt ^^
wild oracle
LOL
rocky hawk
there is a hint i think in ur words so im looking
pulsar maple
Orion - For your group, don't use in-game voip to communicate and you should be good
wild oracle
I will describe it if everyone votes for me to do so, however, you'll need some finesse to drop out of QT at the right point
So, should I publish the location?
I have drawn a pretty picture to make it easier to find
pulsar maple
Why not
rocky hawk
dont want all mole gather real quick 😄
i like adventores!
give us 1hr time then tell
plus QT time is long
wild oracle
Okay, here is the description - FINDING THE HIDDEN ORE BELT
If the plan works this will be a SPOILER ||so you will have to expand it yourself
https://i.imgur.com/Y1ML4az.png
The aim is to drop out of QT inside the yellow boxes. They define those elements of a system spanning ore belt between the orbits of DELAMAR and CRUSADER. They are readily accessible from a variety of QT points (Start and Finish). I use ArcCorp as its the easiest. You will have to turn off your engine in QT as a function of the fitted quantum drive. I upgraded mine so I quit the engine about 2,500,000km from the target point and I land right in the middle of the belt||
rocky hawk
thanks
wild oracle
I marked it as a spoiler, so you don't have to UNSEE it if you don't want to
rocky hawk
i feel like mission impossible 😄
rocky hawk
😄
echo marsh
@wild oracle will i be right to assume its also a good place to mine with the prospector?
pulsar maple
Intradictor inbound 😄
wild oracle
Yes, it is good for any ship mining, but in Prospector fit the HELIX to have a chance at cracking all the big stones in there.
rocky hawk
do they glow green ?
wild oracle
There are also occasional hand-minables on the rocks, but I ignore them in 3.8 because FPS mining is broken
rocky hawk
i did QT drop and i found some , not where u pinpoint but some random area
echo marsh
Well i would get the helix if it would let me rent the prospector in the first place 
wild oracle
The belt is almost 1,000,000km thick so you should have no issue dropping out of QT in it. Just remember the two orbits that I highlighted in the SPOILER
rocky hawk
ok gotcha
wild oracle
It is absolutely IMMENSE, I mean MAHOOSIVE immense, not small fry stuff like the baby one around YELA etc
echo marsh
Imagine mining there with the orion
wild oracle
I think that is what it is eventually intended to be nibbled on with
echo marsh
Ye most likely
rocky hawk
question what is becon ?
wild oracle
They are beacons placed by players so that they can be picked up by another pilot. They create a MAP Marker
rocky hawk
isit possible i can go where i left off?
wild oracle
if you log out in a bed at the target location; yes
Otherwise NO, you have to find your way back using logic as described in my spoiler as an example, or by triangulating things you CAN SEE and finding your way back that way
wild oracle
that can work, but you are taking a short route through it so you'll need to be sweet on the timing of turning off the engine
rocky hawk
ok
wild oracle
delete your picture so you don't give the location away to those that don't want to see it
wild oracle
They will NEVER find you in there. It is too large and they need to be within 10 to 16km of you for a scan hit on your ship, and even then assuming you are being noisy pinging with your scanner
errant cradle
rocky hawk
ok 😄
echo marsh
Is that a challenge? 
rocky hawk
jackPOT
rocky hawk
what can i make my mole better , what upgrades i can add!
vernal birch
does this spreadsheet display correctly for you guys? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uJia0JCt7sL3bvI_89ed-2TThnITCbMPN2yKbf-veAY/htmlview?sle=true#
i think the names on the top row are supposed to be sideways
and the tabs across the top are supposed to be on the bottom
hollow sedge
@wild oracle @wild oracle your saying that entire inbetween is a belt?
mental ivy
That’s a neat idea about dropping packages for markers. I didn’t know you could QT to them.
wild oracle
@hollow sedge Indeed, exactly that
mental ivy
The ring that shows delmars orbit around the sun is all the belt.
wild oracle
^ yes, although I couldn't find it near DELAMAR / CRUSADER area. Everywhere else is good
hollow sedge
So there's none in crul5?
mental ivy
It seems the longer you are in qt the longer the delay stopping. Not sure if anyone has a ratio to gauge
hollow sedge
How is the ore there?
mental ivy
I only went once and best i found was gold.
Will try again later but for quickness it seems grim hex has been my fastest trips
hollow sedge
Are the nodes abundent or sparse
mental ivy
I would say less sparse from what i can tell from limited time
It took me about ten min to get there my first time
hollow sedge
Like worse or better than normal. A hidden belt does sound exciting
mental ivy
Cause i over shot it
wild oracle
They come in groups and single. It's all about PROSPECTING and you can and will find the good stuff
mental ivy
Better than planets and better density than grim hex yela belt
wild oracle
yes, you can get 4 or 5 hits off each full power scan ping
hollow sedge
Wheres closest seller to there?
wild oracle
I actually use 25% power on pings so I can head to the nearest one. It is sometimes overwhelming
ArcCorp is most convenient if you use my travel method
mental ivy
Is there bexalite in the hidden belt?
wild oracle
go find out
mental ivy
Lol
ebon dagger
its called Halo Belt and there is a picture of it in the star citizen website
wild oracle
it is on the ArkMap too, just missing in game. Go figure
@ebon dagger being pedantic, it is actually named the "AARON HALO" Asteroid Belt
pulsar maple
What does the OxyTorch Cutter do?
empty glade
I'm curious. Why not just sell at Levski?
wild oracle
It will be used in future to force open SHIPS (ingress) or be used to repair broken ships (probably). No function for that fitting currently in game
empty glade
I've been finding Laranite and Borase in the "hidden" belt. With the Laranite being the better deal because the proportions are usually much better
wild oracle
I find it a good place to mine in the Argo coz you can save a lot of fuel by mining asteroids. The Argo is too fuel heavy in planetary use
empty glade
Yes, the fuel burn is pretty wild
Which is made even worse with refueling being such a chore to get to work
pulsar maple
Is a prospector worth renting?
hollow sedge
Do r&r have a mining admin?
wild oracle
@pulsar maple If you don't own one and you fancy ship mining then for sure
pulsar maple
Does it make good $$
Ultimately, I need around $200k to get the loadout I want for my stalker
ebon dagger
half filled up my mole
wild oracle
@pulsar maple It depends how careful you are. If you crack the better percentage rocks and then only suck up shards with high value/percentages and high value stuff then yes. You will be rewarded well for a good haul, but it takes time
You can make money faster by hauling scrap to start with if you have a low cash investment in game, then move up to Titanium or other metals and make significantly more; the downside is its your own cash at risk if you crash (or the game poops out which is does just when you least need it to)
so, the options are a function of what ships you do have access to
wild oracle
Hmmmm, neither of those are good at hauling 😦
wild oracle
do basic missions (delivery) to start with, get 40k, then rent a prospector but only on a day when you can commit large time to mining. Then the prospector will more than pay for itself. Faster way to make money if you have 40k to start with is renting a hauler though
ebon dagger
cx8 you can do delivery missions wit it or investigation missions in shipwrecks
pulsar maple
Yer thats what ive been doing so far with the odd bounty
wild oracle
Once you get 50k to 100k in your account you can double it easily in a couple of hours with hauling. Once you have a million you'll be doing 100k profit per run or more; purely a function of the risk you are willing to suffer
pulsar maple
Can you steal other peoples ships and go sell their cargo?
wild oracle
no, you cannot sell from a ship that doesn't belong to you
no, you cannot borrow a friends ship and do it either
pulsar maple
Wounded haha
wild oracle
only the licensed 'owner' of the ship can use the terminals
renting a ship gives you a temporary right to use; rather than ownership so you can use terminals with rented ships etc
hopefully, with org mechanics at some point in the future you'll be able to join an org that has a fleet of ships in a shared hangar for those purposes.
rocky hawk
proven token
Nice haul
empty glade
I was curious as well. None of the stuff I considered upgrading seems to have actual stats on it
wooden geyser
Why does Mole only have 69 SCU for mining?
wraith tree
I think the future plan for ships like the mole and prospector is that they dump the bags and have a couple extra as backup. so the low SCU is deceiving because its designed to drop all its cargo
so they never have to stop mining to get back to 0
wooden geyser
If those bags are standard- then it should at least match prospector per bag capacity
wooden geyser
rocky hawk
half grotto
@empty glade component stats can be found in a spreadsheet pinned in #flight-combat-racing, as well as sites like https://hardpoint.io
wraith tree
I must not be using gallog correctly because I cannot find these mythical 100k profit runs
brittle cove
jagged wing
Some dude was claiming 120k runs in a MAX in 3.7. Something to do with diamonds on Hurston.
wraith tree
I have a max
wild oracle
@wooden geyser It was supposed to come into 3.8 with 96 SCU (3 x 32 of the Prospector) but someone typo'd and it ended up with 69. Hey ho, go figure. It, as well as the Prospector will be sorted out. In the future; but unlikely to be changed in the short term. There is a huge cuffufle about SCU across the game, across many ships and variants. The MOLE is just the latest addition to the problem set.
wraith tree
Right now the prospector makes me significantly more money than my max and it feels like they should be equal
Or swing back and forth
I will buy a cat in game at some point
wild oracle
Have you tried metals from Lyria back to ArcCorp. From one of the mining outposts? You can make 20% profit per run and 120 SCU of the expensive stuff nets you a massive margin. High risk though!!
simple river
anyone know how to do fps mining properly? my caves are ALWAYS empty if i use investigation missions to find em
wild oracle
The missions system is baulked as a result of the 3.8 patch. It should improve when CIG comes back from Xmas break and gets to patching it up a little. We expect a couple of releases in the 3.8.x cycle in the first quarter.
You could try changing servers, or changing regions until you find one that is working. It is 'hit and miss' and a matter of sheer luck.
Then you will find that you FPS mining tool goes missing....or you cannot pick up the 'crystals' once you've cracked them......or, whatever. It is very unreliable right now. Takes your chances. You might be lucky
wraith tree
@wild oracle I have not because gallog just tells me vice and scrap
I must not know how to use it
wild oracle
It depends what starting capital you have available. Try setting it to 500,000 aUEC and see what happens!
or try SCTRADING website as that is a different take on the same scenarios
wild oracle
Okay, your starting capital for each series of 'runs' determines what the sites will suggest. The more capital the tastier the spoils; but the higher the risks
wraith tree
wild oracle
The sites attempt to maximise your profits as a function of SCU and CASH to fill the ship at the greatest margin
yeah, but don't go for drugs unless you want the Feds on ya ass
wraith tree
But the vice seems broken, 0 cost can’t be right
wild oracle
also, drugs can only be sold a few at a time; so its not effective in larger haulers; only makes sense in small fast runabouts
wraith tree
I’ve avoided them for that reason
plush mantle
how small are we talking, orion? a cutty hold? a titan?
wild oracle
LOL
plush mantle
...an aurora? XD
wild oracle
Yes, drugs only really make sense if you are trying to make a fast buck when you max hold is 4 SCU
It is marginal in something with 20 SCU ; but you still have to wait out 4 cycles at the terminal
plush mantle
lol, ok, so avenger titan would be suited for it then
wild oracle
so, with the MAX with 120 SCU stay away from drugs; you'll be waiting for hours to sell it
yes, something small and nippy for drugs is the best bet if you have limited cash and a small hold
wild oracle
Let me find a route for you. Standby
plush mantle
seems like if you have the beacons and know how to cut engines to minimize travel time, drugs are pretty decent cash in a titan. the trade calculator is saying 9-12k for an 8 SCU hold, which is competitive with a lot of much larger legal hauls
wild oracle
Where are you starting from? Do you care?
wraith tree
Don’t care
wild oracle
Safest bet then is
https://i.imgur.com/M4Mukvn.png
When you have 1,000,000 it looks much different
plush mantle
are the PO trade terms working again btw? i haven't been able to use the dropdown to select my ship there all week, so scrap sales have been bad
unique lion
You using the right terminal?
plush mantle
yes
unique lion
Because the terminals built into the desk are for cargo trading. The ones on the wall are for the prospector/mole
wraith tree
Ok thank you @wild oracle
wild oracle
plush mantle
thanks blue
wild oracle
That will get you 18% per trip of your investment
unique lion
Yeah if you use the ones on the wall behind the desk that's for selling raw ore from the mining ships
Gotta use the ones in the desk
wild oracle
When you have 1,000,000 available then you can up your margin on each trip to 46.8k profits
https://i.imgur.com/sL3Y4Zx.png
viral musk
whats the best way to get a bigger ship fast? I just have a titan and im strapped for cash
wild oracle
open your wallet is the fastest 🙂
viral musk
cries
wild oracle
Rent a Caterpillar but you'll need good investment money up front to do that. So, its either mining FPS style to get funds (Hadanite at 33k per backpack is good) or doing lots of chained delivery missions
plush mantle
ness, titan can solo claimjumper without too many issues. alternately, the 9k box runs are decent, or drug trading
i wouldn't rent anything right now since rentals are disappearing well before their full time
viral musk
okay thanks for the tips guys
unique lion
Bold of you to assume you can rent a Caterpillar
Because you can't. Muwhahaha
Not yet anyway. Can only buy it ingame
Maybe New babbage will have a rental for it when it gets its interior
wild oracle
hmmm, I rented one in game in 3.7.2 (they could have removed them?
viral musk
i could try to rent a prospector but i only have 3k aUEC
unique lion
None of the ship rental lists have the Caterpillar listed anywhere for 3.8
Unless they stealth added/removed it somewhere
pets A2 in buybacks someday
wild oracle
I could be mistaken; that a rental was a SHIP tryout of one during the Expo, indeed; yes
wild oracle
just think how tasty that could have been without 33% inert crap in there eh? 🙂
rocky hawk
ye
wild oracle
You need to be pickier with that hoovering up if you want to clear 100k in the MOLE
It will easily do 250k plus with all 96 SCU and the ability to discard inerts
wild oracle
Yeah, it takes time; that's the downside of being too picky
rocky hawk
i upgraded QT from huracan to XL1
wild oracle
I did the same thing, but now I have to cut off engines 2.5 million KM from intended stopping point coz it has so much steam!!
rocky hawk
lets check it out 😄
wild oracle
AARON belt trick?
rocky hawk
y
wild oracle
cool
jolly scroll
if leaving CRU-L4 in a prospector with stock quantum drive, then cut the engines at 17mil km left in the trip to ArcCorp
jolly scroll
i ended up stopping at about 14.5km to go, in the middle of a mining fest
hollow sedge
anyone looking to go multi crew mine with the mole
jolly scroll
upgraded mole?
wild oracle
I feel bad that no-one replied with an overwhelming YES
It boils down to the fact that it is fun for 20 minutes, but as soon as you realise you cannot readily share the spoils cash wise then people don't bother.
plush mantle
i know the devs are working on it, but yea... it adds such a high burden to the multi-crew experience
beacons are a huge pain and feel unsafe
wild oracle
Well, 2020 is all going to be about SQ42, so any hopes that we'll see a big sea-state change in the PU is woeful - we'll be fed crumbs of the outputs whilst the CIG team ploughs head-long into that. I hope I'm wrong but the attention on the PU is clearly coming a distant second to the SQ42 domain. That said, the elements of dev in SQ42 will eventually come back and be available as benefits to the PU, but it is hellish frustrating waiting for it. I'm speaking selfishly of course as a dedicated MMO player that likes ORG based stuff and working in groups.
plush mantle
even if there were no automated system and i could just wire money to my party members, it'd be enough to multi-crew
none of this "hope the right guy accepts this system-wide beacon broadcast"
wild oracle
well, as everything to a large extent in the game. The face is there; it's all the cash terminals spread all over the game. They are just cold and dark !!
I would love the idea of frog marching the multicrew team to the nearest cash machine and paying them each their share of the haul. They will follow me and attack me if I short change them ! 🙂
plush mantle
lol, yea
wild oracle
^ true too
ah, nevermind me and my bitterness. I love the game more than anyone coz I bought fully into the vision. I'm just royaly pissed off that progress is so painfully slow in the PU. One can only assume that progress on SQ42 is rampant as most of the devs work on that
Well, it will be a 'early beta release' at best then in late 2020 so they can claim a minor victory; but only a handful of the 24 chapters
hollow sedge
Is Freelancer Max good for trading? How much can make with a full run?
floral pelican
wraith tree
he's working on a new one for 3.8
light star
unfortunately those missions are also limited
wraith tree
im kind of surprised they havn't setup delivery missions where you have to deliver X amount of cargo to a location, have the hangar load up the ship and do multiple trips
so its not cargo you buy, but stuff you're being contracted to move
like delivery, just bulk
hollow sedge
Whats the best ship for transporting boxes missions.
opaque badge
if you're looking for something small, Avenger-Titan
hollow sedge
Yes it needs to be ables to go all over the system fast.
plush mantle
derc: they're likely coming. i think most missions are waiting for the dynamic mission / economic model before doing anything fancy that they'd just have to redo later
they could make cargo missions, for example, but it'd be much more exciting if pirates could dynamically appear because you chose a high-traffic shipping lane
wraith tree
yeah
twin tapir
Freelancer Max is among the best for commodity trading
@hollow sedge Freelancer Max is among the best for commodity trading.
For delivery boxes, any ship with an interior can do them. We have a current issue with boxes and ship ladders.
For delivery box, you could go Aurora, Avenger Titan, Cutlass, or any Freelancer.
Avenger is a great small all-around ship. Cutlass is a great medium all-rounder.
slender steeple
Cutlass can do cargo combat or travel
It's best for the $$$
In medium catagory
Unless u want to mine
Then look at prospextor
simple river
Cutlass for cargo?
I feel like the free lancer max is better worth the $$$ if your including cargo into the math of which is best for $$$
finite grotto
I believe Suzi was more referring that the Cutlass can do a little bit of everything.
Especially if cargo is the delivery missions
hollow sedge
cutlass has a tractor beam so good for piracy and maybe salvage
solemn cradle
wasin't the tractor beamm removed?
wraith tree
I think the tractor beam was regulated to the cat
hollow sedge
cutlass has one as well. its in the rear
granite meteor
Can confirm, I do get attracted to that thicc rear
jagged wing
THICC
granite meteor
Mmh!
simple river
🤤
hallow fractal
Does anyone know who sells the Helix2 or Lancet 2 mining heads?
already been to PO and grimhex
coral drum
lorville
hallow fractal
for both?
coral drum
all mining heads are there
hallow fractal
at CBD?
coral drum
no, at Tammany and Sons
hallow fractal
I am talking about for a mining ship not the hand held
coral drum
yes i'm aware since you said "Helix2 or Lancet 2" 😉
the hand mining tool doesnt have different heads
hallow fractal
I was unaware that tammany and sons sold ship components
coral drum
they dont, just mining heads
hallow fractal
all the mining heads are at Levaski as well. I went there first
rocky hawk
i made 100k , what i can buy and sell cargo with 40 cargo space ?
granite meteor
Might as well go for Laranite
Make about 11k per run
If 100k is 100% of your cash, maybe do only 50k runs
Less risky to do titanium runs
30k will fill your hold and return around 5-6k profit
Might also be an idea to rent a prospector for a day and go mining on yela for Agricium, take the money you get and put it towards tomorrow's prospector and mining laser
At about 150k
Rent a prospector for a day and buy a helix mining laser, go to town on yela
Make sure to strip the helix when you're done as it's worth a lot
hallow fractal
@granite meteor where on yela?
granite meteor
Anywhere, Agricium is scattered over the surface
hallow fractal
So going to a certain location like one of the mining outpost will not have better rocks then anywhere else?
hallow fractal
ok good to know
granite meteor
The Aaron Halo is also great, has a lot of Borase and Laranite and is quick to traverse
coral drum
granite meteor
If you jump from delamar to CRU L5 the Aaron Halo occasionally blocks the quantum travel and interdicts you
Also killing quantum travel around 1.4 million from L5 gets you there pretty reliably on a relatively short hop
I've had better luck with Yela overall though
paper forge
Which one is better in terms of making money, Mole with friend or just caterpillar with all this risk blowing up for no reason with X00k worth of cargo?
granite meteor
Depends how much cash you have
Titanium and Laranite cargo running is too good for mining to compete with
Laranite less so as it takes almost 10 good runs to make up for one bad run
Laranite is almost 200k per run with a full cat
rocky hawk
HOW do i break this i got helix , in argo mole , i did overclock but stays 0%
granite meteor
Mine in F E A R comrade
rocky hawk
laranite from which port to which port ?
rocky hawk
aron belt its hard to find taranite and borase
bexalite
takes 1-2 hrs
caterpiller rent how much isit ?
and rent time
can i do fps mining on surface with anvil c8?
warm violet
Can't rent the caterpillar
echo marsh
They dont let u rent the caterpiller probably due to the fact u can earn millions ez with it in 1 day
drifting anchor
Hi every1 ! considering buying the Argo Mole. Is it worth getting the Argo Mole Dig & Ditch Pack. Do you have a use of the freelancer since you got a Argo ? or other pack that is worth it ? ty for advice. Been playing for 2 weeks and have the cuthlass black that I mostly bounty in. But find mining more fun.
flint wasp
Mole is good for teams of players. Mining solo in it is doable, but a Prospector would be more efficient when solo.
Right now we don't have the functionality of haulers being able to pick up full mineral containers from mining ships and ferrying those around. So the MAX you get with that pack won't be useful in conjunction with the Mole for a while. MAX on its own is still a good medium hauler
drifting anchor
ok yea I wanted to get into solo mineing for starters. ty for info
paper forge
Im also very curious... I have ship with LTI so i can upgrade to cat when it hopefuly be available one day ( cant complete swarm ) or i can upgrade to Mole and do mining with my friend but i wont be able to downgrade to cat. Im just wondering which one will be better to get starting capital to buy other ships.
paper forge
Thats why i hope some1 can give me advice what to do :p
latent axle
The simplest way for mining is to take a prospector and a mining tool, go to lyria and stack up hadanite
But the servers can get wonky and u can lose hours of progress in about 10 seconds
rocky hawk
been searching good ores and it took me an hr to find laranite 😄 only 5%
is this bug ? rock energy stays 0 with helix , or i need different mining tool
mole scanning and prosp scanning do these available in other ships?
paper forge
Im afraid not, ive tried with c8x and constie and couldnt find ores
rocky hawk
can i find gems on surface of the planets and not ores?
wild oracle
Yeah, if you are ever putting heat into a rock and it isn't reacting at all then it is best to remove power instantly. There is a good chance that you are suffering a desync; only to resync at the moment that the rock explodes. Too bad, so sad
I just go to bed, log out, change server and try again. It's not worth the risk of losing the ship with its cargo of mined minerals
or, at least turn off the laser, turn off the turret power, leave the seat and try entering again. You might do so with SYNC active a second time around [This also deals with desynced animations between the two mining modes; they are extremely unreliable in the MOLE atm]
ebon dagger
or switch turret. Today i find out before you exit the middle turret i swap to scan mode TAB default button then power off and exit seat. dindt have a glitch the hole day mining.
also with your problem now try it it schould fix it @rocky hawk
bold grail
if your moles engines blow up
can you push the mole to a pad with another ship and still sell
ebon dagger
try it @bold grail and let us know. but probally the player that is puching the mole will get fined for bumping i think
simple river
just invite him to a party
rocky hawk
my andromeda bottom engine were crushed by a rock , no fuel and i was like 500km near grim hex , so what i did a risk of not backspacing , i left the ship and went alone in space and went to trade console so i was able to sell my materials and i was like heart failur poor at that moment
i melt my packahe and i got cata , wow 576 cargo space , much butter
rocky hawk
so i wana know what should i trade
hollow meadow
I don't see it doe
hollow meadow
rocky hawk
dunno what that is
drifting anchor
caterpilar is better for trade but riskier
I would say start with freelancer to get a hang of it.
crystal trail
cant currently buy the normal caterpillar
if you beat pirate swarm you can buy the pirate-skinned caterpillar though
@hollow meadow
wraith tree
but you can't upgrade to the pirate cat, so you just get 6 months of insurance
best to wait for it to go back on sale where hopefully it gets better insurance
crystal trail
all the existing and previously offered insurances are the lowest grade and youll likely not want to stick to them anyway
wraith tree
is there any way of getting better insurance beyond upgrading or getting a ship with 6year insurance?
crystal trail
there is no better insurance at the moment, like I said
wraith tree
a $295 pledge should include LTI, just saying
crystal trail
everything is the lowest type of insurance
lti is also the lowest form of insurance
hollow meadow
Freelancer max?
wraith tree
not true, the warbond mole comes with LTI
crystal trail
you seem to be on a different page
lti in and of itself
is the worst type of insurance
it covers next to nothing
you will almost certainly be wanting to replace it with an insurance that covers more
like upgraded modules/weapons
or cargo
unique lion
^
LTI is basic hull insurance come release
As with any other pledge insurance. It only covers components currently due to it being alpha and premium insurances not existing
Eventually there will be "premium" insurance plans that cost additional UEC to cover things like custom components or cargo, or both
wraith tree
im aware of that, but with LTI you at least don't lose the ship completly
so even if you're broke, you still have the whole fleet
just with the basic components
warm violet
The problem is we just don't know how valuable LTI will be. If my connie gets blown up, is that LTI saving me a few thousand UEC, or a few hundred thousand? A few minutes of gameplay, or a dozen hours?
proven token
Its more of peace of mind knowing that your pledge wont get blown up by a pirate and lost forever
crystal trail
my point is, will you really be using a stock whatevership come a few months of gameplay?
I dare to say no
and if that is the case
youll want better insurance that covers all that stuff anyway
so any of this base insurance you get now is pointless
warm violet
Wait, if my pledge ship gets blown up without insurance, it's gone forever? guess I'm refunding lol
proven token
Potentially laelgon
unique lion
They've stated you can't
Last time anything was said it was explained you would end up having to pay more UEC than you would've if you just had insurance, but still less than a whole new ship
drifting anchor
yea stuff you bought will just cost more uec to get it back.
rocky hawk
from huston to crusader why isiit always pirate! ambushing us cargo what is the police law order doing !
for once i want QT jam free from pirate and plice
rocky hawk
mantis?
rocky hawk
oh cool
dry rose
Hey all, I am attempting my first trade run here ... sitting at PO trying to sell it my crap but it wont select my ship. Could I be doing something wrong? Im using wall console, and i've already launched and relanded. Any other tricks?
slender steeple
@dry rose i'd like to know this too
plush mantle
have you tried the console in the desk nearby rather than the one on the wall?
there's two sets. one's for mining only
slender steeple
the only time I tried to do cargo I couldnt find where to purchase it
plush mantle
(yes, the UX is dumb and should tell you that you're at the mining only console)
plush mantle
lol
slender steeple
i wonder if cutlass blue will have any additional hardpoints
maybe a more finished interior
plush mantle
i'm hoping it doesn't just fill the cargo hold with bounty cages to fulfill its police ship role XD
plush mantle
oh nice. that's... more reasonable than like the avenger version that just fills the whole damned thing, like you're gonna collect a dozen people before turning any in
slender steeple
avenger version?
plush mantle
avenger stalker, the bounty hunting avenger. here's its interior:
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/media/75hawpbwb3wzvr/source/Stalker_11-Squashed.jpg
they replaced the entire cargo hold with pods
pine prism
does anyone have a list of places where the 890 jump can land. all i know is Lorville is 1 place.
plush mantle
i dunno, feels like loading up six prisoners is piling on a lot of risk. it's like if you went on six recover stolen goods missions with a fight for each box and didn't turn any in between fights. that's a lot of confidence that you won't blow up before getting your money
the avenger series isn't particularly tanky or low-profile either
slender steeple
also, I like how the freelancer trailer shows VTOL but it doesn't actually have it in-game
scam
marble lodge
Filipasian, the 890j can also take off from Area 18
fleet pumice
Hey, so i'm trying to do a delivery mission but the delivery box thing won't let me submit the package, what do I do?
hollow sedge
tyvm, found it after a few minutes of searching 🙂
pale zodiac
Does anyone know if i can buy better mining drills for the mole?
night stirrup
i bought and replaced my mining laser for the prospector with the hofsrede-s1 but it will not mine.. Do i also need a larger power plant
pale zodiac
where did you buy that laser?
night stirrup
you can
pale zodiac
where?
night stirrup
lorville at tammy and sons
pulsar maple
Why isn't the energy level going up?
hallow fractal
stock mining laser heads?
hallow fractal
and you may need to upgrade, I have the mole and going to Helix head was a huge difference
I bought the Helix2 at Levaski
pulsar maple
Abit out of the price range so far
mossy citrus
am looking to do some multicrew with my mole. currently at Port Ollisar. ill be heading to either arbedeen or microtech. if u know how to operate the mole ill let u fly
anyone interested?
hallow fractal
has anyone mined in the hurtson area with a mining ship? Any good areas?
hallow fractal
Laranite?
mossy citrus
yeah and a few more valuable ores
hallow fractal
you have the helix heads?
mossy citrus
with the prospector i made abt 17k 1 trip but i think u can make more. i have mole now i have to test it with it now
yeah
sorry never,ind. i have 3 hofsheads
Hofstede*
still mauve
Hello
so when in fps mining once rocks are breaking and they release jems everything sucked under ground in few seconds after mining + fps tool is kinda stuck in your hand you cannot remove it until you get into the ship but still sometime gets stuck
no idea is this a bug or
mossy citrus
u mean u couldnt put down the mining tool? did u try holding R?
still mauve
yes everything
sec im looking for a screenshot
it went to holdster after i get up from ship
and im sitting in my chair
kinda annoying
mossy citrus
ummm
maybe un equip it using the mobiglass and if that doesnt work maybe change the attachment on it it might reset it
still mauve
been thinking about that
just wanted to report what happend on yesterday stream
🙂
only ship mining is kinda stable the rest is hella broken right now
compare to 2.72 patch
so im gonna stick to hauling cargo
pale zodiac
someone said tammy and sons was where i could get mining laser heads.. where can i find an upgrade for my mining lasers? class 2
still mauve
i saw somebody on stream was getting them on levski
pale zodiac
been running around lorville for 30mins now..
hallow fractal
hallow fractal
The good one Helix 2 is for sure on Levaski
That is where I bought mine, There is another area on Lorville that sells the Attritions that may have them in the central business district
pale zodiac
ollisa? port ollisar?
hallow fractal
Someone here said Tammny and sons sells them though
mossy citrus
theres no difference between helix one and 2. the only difference is mount size. so if u have prospector u have to get size one. if mole u get size 2
hallow fractal
PO does not have the helix 2
mossy citrus
yes prt ollisar near the info counter area
there is the dumpers depot or whatever its called
hallow fractal
He was asking about size 2
mossy citrus
and go to the buying teerminal in the dumpers deepot
hallow fractal
There are no lasers size 2 worth buying at PO
mossy citrus
then go to levski
hallow fractal
the spread sheet says they are at Lorville
there is another place to check before leaving there and going all the way to levaski
mossy citrus
here u go
hallow fractal
as I said above
pulsar maple
Is there a price list somewhere for Ore?
mossy citrus
yes actualy
i have them printed out next to me
ill try to find the source give me a minute
pulsar maple
That would be sweet
pulsar maple
Thanks bud
mossy citrus
these prices may not be the same as they are from 3.7 but in therms of ranking of value its the same
r u doing mining now?
wraith tree
does PO usually have a limitied supply of medical supplies to sell?
sly breach
what are some good ships to start off with if you want to get into space trucking solo
wraith tree
depends on what budget you're looking into