industrial-professions

[coral drum]

Yo patch is brand new, will take some time to figure out

[proven token]

@wraith tree did i get what?

i just did XD

im a whale

[hallow zephyr]

How do you tell what's a good material to haul

[proven token]

So clearly 5% of bexalite is worth collecting

5% of like aluminum is worthless

[hallow zephyr]

What about cargo and whatnot

[proven token]

Oh cargo...

Sorry

[hallow zephyr]

All G

[proven token]

My mind is polluted with minerals

https://www.gallog.co/trading/

people have put websites like this together

[hallow zephyr]

Thanks

[proven token]

Yea

I dont really know how to use it

but god speed

[hallow zephyr]

It's a start

At the moment my only idea is "I am at a mine so I should buy minerals and sell them to a place which is not a mine"

so this is a far better leg up haha

[proven token]

yea theres some decent routes out there

I'm sure routes will make more sense once the economy is going

Like

Buying from miner places and selling to refiners makes sense

ect

[hallow zephyr]

yeah

I just didn't have a clue what to start with

Didn't want to buy 5k of food only to rock up at a place and lose moneys

[proven token]

yea

[wraith tree]

let me know when you wanna try out the mole

[twin tapir]

It is likely that the replacement for Olisar won't have exposed pads.

[hushed turtle]

Man we really need a way to transfer credits so we can share mining rewards from the mole.

[twin tapir]

Agreed

[hushed turtle]

Couldn’t create a beacon to share with buddies and I don’t see them wanting to do it again until I can reliably pay them.

[rustic bone]

isnt it 100 mineral = 1 scu?

40uec x 100 = 1uec in this case

the mole can have 288

so 40x100x288 alumium

1.15 millions?

so a full mole sell for 1.15m ? i dunno

[proven token]

Shes a pretty ship

@wraith tree im playin nowif you want to

[main elm]

i'm looking to get a mole but can't decided on what one to buy

[wraith tree]

k

[rustic bone]

i wish i can get carbon but i didnt spend 1k

only close to 575 so far

well 575+275 now lol

[granite meteor]

Is the grey (white?) one also locked? I haven't seen any pics of it

[main elm]

carbon is the grey one and the white one is the Talus

the talus is the only one that is different on the webpage as it has S size fuel intakes

[granite meteor]

ah neat, it looks like the orange has 2xsS Fuel intakes too

[main elm]

strange as i'm looking at the page for them now

[granite meteor]

Oh weird, on each individual page they look identical

[main elm]

i noticed that too but then again they are all the same price

at least to me that is

[granite meteor]

Fair enough, the Ship matrix is usually always wrong lol

[main elm]

then where can i find the information that is real ?

[granite meteor]

usually asking around until the community gives an answer is as close as we get to accurate

Next best is wiki

[proven token]

Seems the miners in a mole's scanners all glich when used together

The mole definately has some nasty gliches

Also, you can't change the laser heads on it.

Says they are all the S1s from the rpospector

[deft sigil]

Anyone found a good cargo route for 3.8?

[main elm]

ill have to check when i log in

[ebon dagger]

under tab ships and go to argo thear it says Fuel intake 2 x S on every mole

[proven token]

The mole is all messed up in game

[ebon dagger]

thy say that if u buy mole for this time that it sets your spawning ships to 0

01:03] Evomas: :WeeWoo: HEADS UP :WeeWoo:

It appears that buying the MOLE nullifies your ships in the spawning kiosk in the current LIVE patch. Would recommend not buying it if you want to spawn ships!

[slim bone]

Not true

[ebon dagger]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/564248916061847575/658117100837142559/unknown.png

after searching it seems they solved it after 1hr

[slim bone]

I never had an issue with it, and I've not played 3.8 without a Mole, but I might have only jumped in just after the hour.

[ebon dagger]

can be it was this night so i dont know.

can you anser me how you load the 8minepods on another ship so you can mine futher

[slim bone]

You can't

[half grotto]

That functionality is not in yet

[slim bone]

Yet being the key part

[ebon dagger]

The MOLE has a total of 24 mineral pods, each holding 12 SCU. Eight pods are usable at one time – when they’re full, either head home or jettison them for collection by another vessel and carry on mining.

so now you only have the 8 x 12 to load until system is implemented

so basically its the same 96scu load as the prospector until the system is implemented

[proven token]

Currently 69 SCU on the server

Some one made a typo?

Clicked 96 too fast?

Also the mole has 3 S2 mining lasers

[slim bone]

According to the Q&A, the MOLE has 4x Prospector cargo room

[proven token]

All of which are just clones of S1 mining lasers atm.

However no good upgrades, so the mole is litterally worst at mining.

[slim bone]

Disagree. Mole is bae

We had two of the turrets mining earlier, and it was so much better than when we were using two Prospectors

[proven token]

maybe in concept but right now

it ain't what it says it is

[ebon dagger]

think they just pushed it a little to have it in so nobody could say they dindt deliver

after the hollidays they will look at it because they know

thats what i think

[proven token]

So mole has "S2"s on all ports that are actually S1s, and have less upgrades

69 SCU instead of 96

Super small fuel tank for some reason

and its main laser stops working randomly sometimes and you gotta despawn the ship

Looks nice though

[lunar jetty]

beacons don't work

[lunar jetty]

<@&84127225942642688> @twilit halo is trolling by blasting his mic in voice

[lunar jetty]

seriously stop

@hollow peak he's back and did it again in group 4

@golden bay

@faint forge

[vernal birch]

is there a 3.8 spreadsheet?

[errant cradle]

@lunar jetty ping me from now on if someone fucks with you in voice chat

[lunar jetty]

Ok, thank you so much!!

[lavish hornet]

I think 3.8 was rushed so they could have it out before Christmas

I'm sure they all want to play over their break 😂

I wish beacons worked, crewing mining ship is pretty relaxing game play

[indigo fog]

There were gonna be issues with any patch that brings this much stuff. I’m really excited for 3.8 but now I may wait a week to play hoping the iron out some hot fixes.

[lunar jetty]

they should've fixed the bugs before rushing the release

[lavish hornet]

Hopefully they get a hotfix out before they go on break

What's the best ship to rent for hauling?

[unique cove]

Max

120scu and it's a flying spacedick

[granite meteor]

122 d:

But can only be bought not rented

2.2 million to buy

[crimson badge]

auto-landing not working?

[hollow sedge]

Do we know if/when the Freelancer Max will be retired from the pledge store for cash?

[lavish hornet]

It works for me, but I had to get fully within the pylon @crimson badge

[granite meteor]

The max will probably stay on the pledge store for the forseeable future until full release

[wraith tree]

Does the max fly any different from the standard freelancer?

Any noticeable tweaks to it in 3.8

[granite meteor]

It took off really weird in 3.7 would pick itself up nose first off the pads, but it actually flew better than the regular Lancer imo

[twin tapir]

It is expected that the Max will fly different once cargo weight it worked into flight model.

[granite meteor]

Almost definitely yeah

[wraith tree]

Iv got a regular lancer I keep thinking of upgrading to one of the varieties and its driving me mad, it’s especially silly since I’m easily willing to buy a brand new mole

[granite meteor]

Almost double the Cargo with a max
And it can carry rovers too

[wraith tree]

That would be handy

[shy marten]

Does anyone have recommended links/resources for new players looking into cargo-hauling?

[wraith tree]

Not at the moment, 3.8 changed stuff but look at gallog.co

It will be some time until good routes are found again

[shy marten]

Thank you. Tonight will be the first night I'm actually able to sit down and play for a number of hours. Trying to figure out the best ways to make bank

[wraith tree]

What ship do you have?

[light marsh]

I have the titan @Magnus Lord of Orphans has the andromeda

[shy marten]

Oh sure answer for me you plebian

[granite meteor]

I have the Discount Aurora d:
3scu

[shy marten]

I had extra $ to burn due to the valve index being sold out till Feb. I threw my grief and money at the andromeda pledge

Using the andromeda for package delivery feels excessive

[granite meteor]

Get a ton of boxes to the same place and carry them all at once

[shy marten]

https://tenor.com/view/perfection-michael-fassbender-perfectionist-perfect-gif-7910211

[wraith tree]

Fill the andromeda with cargo and deliveries

Double duty

[light marsh]

I dont have money to throw at this game but i would like the caterpillar

[shy marten]

Gotta grind it out vaknor

[wraith tree]

Have you seen the C2?

[shy marten]

As far aesthetic I kind of like the Cat more

Just the pure bulky industrial look of it

[light marsh]

I like the cat as well

A lot

[shy marten]

I hunger for the day I have my own large selection of ships

[wraith tree]

I like the cat but I’m waiting on the hull series for more cargo hauling

[shy marten]

In all honesty, there's just so many cool ships

[wraith tree]

Much variety

[crimson badge]

can you actually buy stuff from terminals and load into a ship that is at a different station?

[granite meteor]

The ship needs to be at the same station as you're loading it at

[wraith tree]

There are different terminal types and you need to be careful an what you try to buy and sell because you could take a loss

[crimson badge]

interesting. im having my aquila claimed to a R&R from Lorville, and while its in transit i just bought some scrap and had it put in the Aquila

[granite meteor]

But you can load into a ship that is waiting to be withdrawn then fly to a different station with a different ship and withdraw the loaded ship there iirc

[crimson badge]

ah right

claiming does the same thing it seems

[granite meteor]

Yeah as you claimed it it moved back to global inventory and is just waiting on its countdown
Afaik

In the future they'll probably fix that, but it isn't too easy to exploit atm

[crimson badge]

well its not really that worthwile

you either wait on the cooldown for the claim, or pay the expedited fee which eats into your profits

and you still need to travel to the other station

anybody at Port O can tell me how much scrap sells for there?

[quartz frigate]

Boo, diamond trades got nerfed. 😦

[wraith tree]

Got carbon, got hydrogen, got pressure? Go make diamonds for cheap

[granite meteor]

cheap

It's a lot of pressure my dude

A lot of pressure to succeed too d:

It's almost cheaper to just murder the underprivileged of another continent and steal their diamonds

. . . .
Wait, heck

Is scrap still decent margins?

[wraith tree]

Diamonds are not really rare, just artificially so

The Russians have the mir mines which would wreck the market with saturation

Scrap, it amazes me that the SC world recycles

[granite meteor]

Fair enough yeah

[wraith tree]

I’m really curious about how the Hull will work, will there be SCU block containers for fluids

http://img.burrillandco.com/nimg/c5/fd/2e84f389192532b13434a52354c0-600x600-0/1000_liter_wassertank_ibc_plastic_shipping_containers.jpg

[granite meteor]

^

[wraith tree]

Neat

Iv been wondering if a prisoner cell could be installed in a 2scu vertical space

I know they say the spv will be used to load Hulls but that’s gonna be tedious and glitchy

[granite meteor]

That's a bit tight I think
That's 2.5x1.25x1.25m
A person would fit, but like no room for independent life support if you had to detach then from ship a and move to ship b

[livid orchid]

their spacesuit have it 🙂

[granite meteor]

I guess suits survive for a while on their o2 storage
It might be okay

But yeah when they move forward with life support limits on ships, then I imagine we'll see a problem with that

4scu would probably be plenty to handwave an independent power supply and life support unit

[wraith tree]

I’m just thinking a cage of sorts. Could make it vertical like the sleeping pods in fifth element

Knock them out with gas and let them sleep

It would be about the size of an auroras escape pod

[slim bone]

Carbon freeze?

[granite meteor]

They sorta have those in the Stalker already

And the hawk I guess

[wraith tree]

https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/07/ca/fe/4e/ladies-floor-capsule-room--v58665.jpg

Right, but it feels like having specific ships just to carry a few prisoners is silly

A cut or lancer could hold at least 4 easy

Not including the cut blue

Like people are cargo, why can’t we just do that

Anyone here upgrade their lancer to a max?

Any regrets

[white cairn]

@wraith tree there are actually fluid tanks right now ingame

I believe it’s only in a certain space drug

I don’t remember what

[wraith tree]

Ah, I know the starfarer has fuel tanks but those are built in

[white cairn]

If you complete a drug bunker mission you can see em on boxes

[crimson badge]

Laranite still good?

[wraith tree]

Always

Until quanta comes and the demand might fall from miners and traders creating too much supply

[crimson badge]

What's quanta?

[open junco]

Laranite?

[granite meteor]

https://youtu.be/_8VFw1F-olQ
@crimson badge

Most interesting panel of citizen con this year

Explains quanta and a lot of other elements to the developing universe backend

[wraith tree]

TLDR, quanta is an application that creates a dynamic economy that players are part of. It’s always shifting even if no human plays

It’s like a stock market/physical economy simulator

So one day you’ll notice laranite demand is low because virtual factories don’t need any more

So everyone time you go to run supplies you’ll want to make sure it’s fetching a good price and won’t see a price collapse while you’re on the way

We’re blessed with a simple, predictable market right now

[unique cove]

Is it wrong to hope I can store huge containers of minerals in my hanger to flood markets with

[wraith tree]

lol

I’m not sure your hangar will compete with the scu of a hull e

I’m working on writing up a proposal for a crafting system that I’ll post somewhere when done

Trying to figure out how to make it vital, fit into the universe, and not conflict with preventing people from selling UEC for real money via a market hack

[hollow sedge]

is gallog.co innacurate now?

its saying ship hydrogen to CRU L1 for like 100% profit

[wraith tree]

I would assume it is right now unless it’s feeding from a cig api

[twin tapir]

So folks could use Hill E's as warehouses for market manipulation?

Real world will use super tankers to store oil during a glut

Gsllog uses player supplied numbers.

[wraith tree]

Maybe, but it would cost them because they’d have to fill it which costs a lot and they would need a lot of Hull es

[twin tapir]

So if you see a different price, you could submit it to them.

[wraith tree]

You’d be better off hunting people trying to make runs to stop the flow of supplies

Plus the quanta would probably negate attempts since their mines likely have unlimited supply so they can always get more

[crimson badge]

gallog.co needs some updates, so anybody seeing changes should submit them

[acoustic harness]

so, someone was saying that the liminaria gifts can be sold for some $

anyone here have an idea of how to sell these?

[median yacht]

Normal trading console.

Select your personal inventory.

[crimson badge]

for prospector mining, planets or asteroids better?

[proven token]

I've gotten up to 30k on a planet

In a prospector

But i think it comes down to luck most of the time.

[crimson badge]

do you prefer FPS mining or prospector mining?

[proven token]

Prospector makes more now but FPS shouldnt be ignored

You can find nice fps fields on planets

I've found like clumps of 10

[worthy scroll]

If you can get FPS mining to work. I spent an hour trying last night and my tool wouldn't work 99% of the time. Hopefully they fix that (and FPS guns) soon.

[opaque badge]

I can't even afford a mining tool... Stupid aUEC reset

[jaunty smelt]

bountys working for anyone?

[solemn lodge]

Yes

[crimson badge]

tried both FPS & prospector mining, personally prefer prospector mechanics

matter of taste of course

[tired grotto]

anyone know a good place to go mining?

[main elm]

depends on what kind of mining

[forest oxide]

What's the best return ?

[median yacht]

I usually go mining on Daymar.

Lots of Hadanite on the surface.

[vast wagon]

someone help me understand hauling. i did it for my first time a bit ago and could buy 20,000 worth of titanium. i then flew it to area18 cuz lorville wouldnt buy it. i sold it for 25,000. how is that more profitable than say bounty hunting or claimjumpers?

or am i doing it wrong?

[median yacht]

Bigger ships make bigger profits.

Bounty hunting isnt as profitable as it used to be, and claim jumpers you could end up dying a lot.

[vast wagon]

but you can crash with 100k invested in cargo too

[median yacht]

You can.

[vast wagon]

in the long run is it actually more profitable? ill do it if it is

[median yacht]

Do you find it fun?

[vast wagon]

truth is all money making routes are bugging out for me lol

it was fine yea

claimjumpers is awesome but they bug out more than half the time and dont spawn

good point

i got a freelancer max today so just experimenting with new things

thx for the insight yall

[jagged wing]

@vast wagon pretty good resource here https://www.gallog.co/trading/

[vast wagon]

@jagged wing saved thanks!!!

[grand trail]

I noticed the aegis avenger titan only has 5 SCU, normally it should have 8?

[forest oxide]

if you are doing a delivery mission with aurora where do you actually put the package you have to carry?

[warm violet]

You have to get it into the cab with you, which is a pain in the ass as I recall

[forest oxide]

i just had it in the cab with me and went to get in pilots seat and next thing its 180m away floating below my ship lol

yeah wtf

i keep dropping the pacakge behind me in the cap and it just falls through the floor

[warm violet]

Oh I think that's a "known issue" with this patch of which there are many, it seems

[forest oxide]

fml

hows a guy supposa get some cash

[heady dagger]

anyone have the main laser on the mole stop working

[brazen relic]

It happens if you exit the seat in extraction mode

So get back in, switch, get back in and then it should work

Then always remember to exit in fracture mode

[heady dagger]

ok ill give it a shot ty

no go =\

[pure pulsar]

Yeah mission packages are a PITA... kind of annoying since i just upgraded to a 300i and now i'm stuck in Grim Hex with no viable options to make $$

[latent axle]

U are supposed to be able to sell the little crates that u can craft in your inventory right?

Do I have to leave it in my ship or smth?

[crimson badge]

Does the Avenger have issues with package deliveries?

[livid orchid]

strange cant sell any of my mined goods at PO

[crimson badge]

That's because you're at the wrong terminal

Use the wall-mounted terminal, not the one on the desk

[livid orchid]

sure lol thx (the shame is I have done this before 🙂 )

[crimson badge]

Same thing at Grim Hex, one side of the terminals will buy your mining stuff, the other won't

[crimson badge]

Mole vs prospector: thoughts?

[winter skiff]

Do u have friends?

Friends or org mole, solo or whatever prospectors, I personally have the mole cause org and whatnot but I almost would get both, to make the mole productive you have to have at least 2 people preferable 3,you gotta pay them, prospectors you only have yourself

Mole is kinda buggy rn but it's just been released to that's wh6

[cosmic otter]

ez clap

[chrome steppe]

how do you even buy an Orion, no buttons in pledge store

[white cairn]

It’s limited

You have to wait until it’s buyable

[ivory fox]

guys is hauling with the other startership that isn't the mustang viable or should I get the mustang?

[cosmic otter]

mustang has double the space

but

its so little

you will barely make any money hauling

get a mustang though

as then you get both starter ships

and use the aurora for deliveries

[ivory fox]

why do I use aurora for deliveries when it has less space?

[cosmic otter]

because delivery boxes dont take up cargo space, but physical space.

there is no where to put a delivery box in a mustang

the aurora has a little space behind the pilot seat though

its confusing i know

deliveries use physical moveable boxes, and cargo is stationary.

[ivory fox]

how long would it take me to earn an aurora ingame?

or to rent one

[cosmic otter]

if you buy the mustang package you get an aurora

because you cant do deliveries in a mustang

if you buy the aurora package, you just get the aurora.

[ivory fox]

wat..im confused....the mustang package is the same price as the aurora

[cosmic otter]

yes

[ivory fox]

why would I ever get the aurora package then

[cosmic otter]

because-

i dont know ask CIG

[hollow sedge]

Wait so is cargo broken in the current patch or physical boxes?

[cosmic otter]

nothing is broken

[hollow sedge]

I thought there was an issue with cargo boxes falling out of the bottom of the 300

Or something

Along those lines

[cosmic otter]

@ivory fox my suggestion to you though, cough up the extra dough for an Avenger Titan.

it has enough cargo to start doing cargo runs,

a lot of space for packages,

and pretty good at combat.

[patent frost]

@hollow sedge correct. 300 cant carry anything without getting creative

I wish they would fix it

[hollow sedge]

Ok soooo something is broken

[cosmic otter]

the 300i is broken

but i dont have it

thats why u get a cutlass black

[patent frost]

yep. Last night I tried throwing, climbing the ladder, placing, dropping

nothing worked

[hollow sedge]

Should I stick to my avenger then or trade one in to subsidize a freelancer?

[cosmic otter]

CIG would never break their most popular ship

[patent frost]

I saw a video today though where the guy flipped his upside down and could load

[hollow sedge]

Haha

[patent frost]

Yeah, I'm using my avenger and cutlass until it's fixed

[hollow sedge]

That is creative to flip your ship

It doesn’t roll over?

[patent frost]

I also want to try belly landing with no gear, see if I can get the box inside then

I havent tried flipping it, just saw him do it

[hollow sedge]

Hmm I might just splurge on a freelancer then

[patent frost]

lancer or cutlass are great

[ivory fox]

@cosmic otter 60 is too much of an investment for me, I'm already nervous about spending 40 on an early access game :x

[patent frost]

lol

I remember when I was nervous about spending $40

[ivory fox]

I play tabletop games IRL, I'm stripped for cash LOL

[cosmic otter]

trust me you will love it

[hollow sedge]

Is the Lancer in the pledge store?

[ivory fox]

warhammer is my plastic-drug

[cosmic otter]

i was shaking after i spent 45 dollars on the starter pack

[hollow sedge]

Also yeah. The game is great and definitely worth the $40

[cosmic otter]

then a week later i dropped 100 bucks for a cutlass black

do not regret the decision at all

[hollow sedge]

I play Magic mostly so i understand your dilemma

[ivory fox]

i work minimum wage so 100 bucks is too much for me

[patent frost]

Lancer is available either standalone or as a starter pack

[ivory fox]

while having oher hobbies at least

[hollow sedge]

I’m an idiot

[patent frost]

ooo the reliant kore is still a starter pack

I wonder how I could get that......

[hollow sedge]

I didn’t realize lancer was shorthand for freelancer

[cosmic otter]

mitsubishi lancer

[hollow sedge]

Beep beep

[cosmic otter]

trust me if you like the game you will find yourself spending lots of money on it

[hollow sedge]

The reliant kore is $755k in game

[cosmic otter]

also if you just spend around 1k on star citizen

you basically have every ship in the game

thanks to melting

[ivory fox]

So I bought the mustang now, thx guys

[hollow sedge]

Congratulations

[ivory fox]

let's see if I also get the aurora too then for some reason

[cosmic otter]

they rent you out the aurora

if you need help starting out, lmk.

it can be a little confusing

i still dont know what most of the stuff on the UI is

[ivory fox]

doesnt sound good for my father as a game then cos he's already overburdened with the witcher 😮

I'm trying to get the old guy to play games so he doesn't rot in his chair while watching TV

but I'll see, game is downloading currently

[cosmic otter]

star citizen isnt complex

it just

theres a lot of really simple stuff to learn

but after you learn the basic cores of the game

common sense fills in the rest

[patent frost]

Yeah but see I have a 325 just sitting here collecting dust. Surely I can use that somehow to get the Kore

Maybe I just have to buy the stupid 2nd game package

Or I should stop looking at the other shiny things and just enjoy what I have

[cosmic otter]

melt and upgrade dude

this game gets boring with the same old

[patent frost]

I wasnt sure if there would be an issue buying a second game package

[cosmic otter]

just get it standalone

or is that not possible>

[patent frost]

Not available on the store standalone

or if it is, i missed it

interesting. It will let me choose to upgrade to the Kore from my avenger, but not from the 325

oh im an idiot, its cheaper than 325

[cosmic otter]

melt your 325 then

get a rover and a kore

[patent frost]

Cant, because it doesnt offer the kore as a standalone ship. That's whats confusing me

[cosmic otter]

hm

interesting

[patent frost]

I can either buy the kore package for $85

or upgrade to it for $65

I guess I could melt the 325, buy something cheap and then upgrade

[cosmic otter]

thats a better idea

how much is the 325

[patent frost]

lets do it

$70-something because i got the fancy schmancy coffee maker

[cosmic otter]

Keurig™️

[white cairn]

Why do you want a kore

[patent frost]

Bored

Want to try something different

Same reasons anyone buys another ship lol

I bought the 325 as a light courier, and it can't do that. I'd like something that will

that's not a penguin

I'll take other suggestions for a small courier ship

[white cairn]

Pisces

the kore is in a really bad spot

[patent frost]

Oh, good to know. buggy you mean?

Pisces isn't as cute

sigh. Maybe I should just be content with my 325 and wait for them to fix it

Its not 😦 does it have an interior?

Those are literally my only requirements. Small, fast, and with an interior that I can place delivery boxes.

[oblique zodiac]

I love the Banu Defender

[timber vale]

I do too.

[oblique zodiac]

It does have a small interior you can put a box down in

Plus a single passenger

I have a loaner but I want to eventually get one

[crimson badge]

@patent frost Pisces is pretty good for small cargo/courier

nimble, cheap

Avenger Titan too

[patent frost]

Hm, will have to look at the defender more then

@crimson badge Already have the Titan, and I don't really want to buy a starter ship. I need something exotic lol

Anyone know what the range is like on the Mantis?

[distant zealot]

Not bad

[wraith tree]

damn, freelancer max isn't for rent at any station

[hollow sedge]

Regular freelancer is at loreville and area18 fwiw

[wraith tree]

I have one, I just wanted to try out a max before upgrading

[crimson badge]

can you upgrade the prospector's mining laser? the default seems too weak for many rocks

[wanton barn]

they are upgradable in general. not sure if the prospector fits a larger one tho

[lavish hornet]

what's the best ship to rent for hauling?

[wanton barn]

i´d say freelancer or andromeda

[brittle cove]

So why does the pirate cat have less cargo

Did I miss something?

[median yacht]

Probably a typo.

[wraith tree]

pirate cat is meh, can't upgrade to it

[crimson badge]

cat has 500+ SCU no? freelancer 66, MAX 122, constellatino 96

[wraith tree]

cat is top dog right now for hauling until the Hulls come out

[coral drum]

yeah cat then starfarer is next at 290

[opaque badge]

I had just earned enough aUEC for a one day rental on a Freelancer to start running more cargo... Then the patch hit and now I'm broke with a 300i that I can't use to haul packages

[patent frost]

Flip the 300 upside down and you can get packages in lol

[coral drum]

delivery missions is a good place to get started raising capital

[opaque badge]

I suppose if I power down just off the landing pad I could get in with my suit thrusters

[patent frost]

I havent tried it yet, but the idea occured to me of belly landing w/ no gear

might be able to jump in?

or throw the box

[opaque badge]

I can't afford a repair bill right now. Or fuel, or anything

I tried throwing the box. Couldn't get it to work

[patent frost]

I would try belly landing. The 300 can take some damage and still fly just fine

I've flown without half of the tail-wing thing

[proven token]

Yea the economy right now is bad

Especially since you cant just hop in someone elses ship

And get paid

[patent frost]

If he wasnt stuck with the 300 he would be fine.

I made 40k in a couple hours just running deliveries last night

[opaque badge]

They could have just left in ladder climbs with packages until they fix the cargo bay

[patent frost]

Agree 100%

[opaque badge]

I don't have a lot of time to play, only about 2 hours per day, so I need to keep things efficient if I want to make a decent amount of aUEC

[analog shell]

Hey guys I'm a newbie on SC, I will begin to try cargo with my freelancer max. I find this : https://www.gallog.co/trading/

Do you have other tool liike this ? 🙂

I farmed around 40k money for now with box mission

I need to farm more before go to trade ?

[opaque badge]

I had just started running distilled spirits from Terra Mills HydroFarm, Cellin to Port Olisar

You need a good amount of aUEC to buy your first load of cargo

[analog shell]

For now I trade fluorine from arcop mining area in Yela to Grimhex

[opaque badge]

Once you have more aUEC built up you should be able to find more profitable runs

I had been doing Agricium from Kudre Ore to Levski, but someone ran them dry

Then I'd pick up hydrogen from Levski and sell to CRU-L1 on my way back to Kudre Ore on Daymar

[crimson badge]

@opaque badge self-destruct, claim your ship, comes brand new, fully repaired/re-fueled

@analog shell i would make sure you never spend more than 50% of your current aUEC balance on cargo

just in case the server crashes/ship bugs out, etc

[analog shell]

Yes, never 😉

[crimson badge]

and honestly, if you're looking to do delivery missions right now, you'll probably need a Titan or Pisces

[analog shell]

For now, 2 7.4k box mission to hurston, I'll just pick almost 40k titanium before (11k gain) so total of 25k in 15min

[crimson badge]

some of the other ships are bugged/glitched when it comes to deliveries

[coral drum]

in personal delivery, i just grabbed a pair of missions to deliver from grim hex to the orphanage... just over 7k each, to/from same location - look for those and stack them... cool 14k

[bold kestrel]

yeah i love the personal deliveries, i usually do Grim hex for Orinth or Orphange then make a stop to pick up some Titanium for a huge profit of usually 40k-50k depending if im running a cutlass or freelancer max

thought im looking to get into mining i head that is pretty good at the moment if you can find friends

[coral drum]

yeah i grabbed some slam for the trip back 😉

[heady dagger]

where can you buy the helix II? Levski?

[bold kestrel]

yeah the drugs are nice, but i always have a hard time to sell lol

[coral drum]

hidden terminal at CRU-L5

no questions asked... its in the locker room

[proven token]

Cargo and mining yeehaw we did it boys

[coral drum]

?

oh they lumped it into the same channel

[median yacht]

mining best

[proven token]

Fix da mole

[heady dagger]

where can you buy the helix II mining head?

[median yacht]

Ive yet to use my mole to actually mine

I just enjoy flying it around >.>

[coral drum]

not the greatest miner solo....

[proven token]

Mole still has S1 miner head stats idk why they all say they are S2

Not an upgrade :(

[median yacht]

Its awful solo, yeah.

I have the prospector for that.

[bold kestrel]

yeah wish i could get the prospector lol

[median yacht]

You can rent the prospector for like 40k a day.

[bold kestrel]

still loving the cargo gameplay, but slowly getting into fps

fps mining

[median yacht]

I like FPS mining but with the weapon bugs at the moment I don't really bother.

[bold kestrel]

ah yeah the constant switching lol

[median yacht]

Half the time I can't pick up the gems either.

[bold kestrel]

it just lags a bit for me to pick up the loot

i just spam F lol

[median yacht]

Or I get stuck with the mining laser in my hand and it doesn't work anymore.

[bold kestrel]

oh if it gets stuck i usually just F1

and it works again

[median yacht]

I tried that the last time, ended up flying back to Olisar still holding the laser in my hand >.>

[proud ravine]

what are good trading routes from PO rn

[median yacht]

Use this site -> https://www.gallog.co/trading/

[coral drum]

should probably pin that

[proud ravine]

can any ship scan for minable things?

[crimson badge]

no, onlly mining ships and ships equipped with a sensor i think

[median yacht]

I think mining ships and the Terrapin / Reliant SEN

And there was another one that I keep forgetting.

[heady dagger]

i cant find the helix size 2 head anywhere lmao

[sweet lynx]

Do FPS-minable rocks on asteroids appear when you uses the ship scan? Or does it only reveal ship-mineable deposits?

[heady dagger]

yes ship scan

[proven token]

Leveski had a S2 helix i think for 108m

Same stats as the S1 Helix....

[heady dagger]

yeah its for an argo >.<

ty got to levesky now... haha

[sweet lynx]

Does ship scan only pick up minaeables if you have an argo or a Prospector? Or can you do it with an Aurora?

[heady dagger]

terrapin, sen, and reclaimer are the only ones currently i believe

[brittle cove]

I love my cat

Just with they would have said the starfarer was being replaced with cat before I got another one

Starfarer was my standin for hull C

[tropic barn]

anyone got some idea of Mining Heads?

which is better in something

[proven token]

The 108k one is the best hands down

Its downside is only price

[sweet lynx]

Does anyone know how to reliably get to the "secret" asteroid belt just inside Daymar?

err Delamar not Daymar

[tropic barn]

what is the follower then

[crimson badge]

nervous shipping, random disconnects/crashes

[sweet lynx]

Is it possible to dup ore in the latest patch?

[wraith tree]

did I miss something about the prospector? I cannot spawn it

[forest drift]

What is prospector’s restistance maximum

[proven token]

If you have the 108k upgrade

Sky is the limit

[forest drift]

That’s a lot of money

Where u get this upgrade tho

[half grotto]

@sweet lynx duping was patched

[proven token]

Leveski or PO

[forest drift]

K thx

[proven token]

S1 is at PO i think

S2 108k upgrade is at leveski

I belueve

The 12k upgrade is gliched

I believe

For the mole

[sweet lynx]

Does anyone know how to get to the Aaron Halo (the "secret" asteroid belt inside of Delamar)?

[proven token]

Why would you want to get to the secret astroid belt

[civic gyro]

What’s a good ship for someone just getting into mining?

[sweet lynx]

It's supposedly full of ship- and FPS-mineable rocks

[unique cove]

Oooo secrets

[sweet lynx]

@civic gyro You need a Prospector or an Argo Mole right now to do ship mining. You can mine by hand, though, with just a multitool that has the mining modification

[civic gyro]

Ok thanks man.

[wraith tree]

and the prospector seems bugged

[proven token]

Re-gen find caves to hand mine by taking investigation missions @civic gyro

[civic gyro]

All right thanks man

[granite meteor]

Don't drop handmineables out of your inventory though
Apparently the fix for the item duplication exploit often deletes dropped objects now

[lavish hornet]

I've lost a lot of guns that way. I think when you die it's deleting your pistol and guns on spawn too

[crimson badge]

yes, lost two guns that way

currently, im not doing any FPS because of numerous bugs

[patent heron]

I'm trying to learn the game on day 2. it's not going well.

[dapper yoke]

Anyone else looking to Crew up for Mining? Down to split Profits equally.

[sage geyser]

so best place to mine with the mole?

[proven token]

I go to daymar near PO

i think its daymar

The surface has nice mineables

[honest swallow]

there are some larinite on yela, and daymar is pretty good for argricium and diamonds and stuff

pardon the spelling

[coral drum]

Does Prospector fit size 2 mining lasers?

[granite meteor]

Only s1 afaik

Used to be s2 but was downgraded

[coral drum]

Thanks you two 🙇

today is the day i learn to mine

so if I want to upgrade the laser at some point on the prosp. i need to look at s1 lasers

[median yacht]

I don't think that's unique to a stick.

Even using the mousewheel it can feel laggy.

[granite meteor]

Handmining yesterday was really sticky and laggy too

Also mousewheel

[ivory fox]

what can I do if my delivery package just disappears in my ship?

[granite meteor]

It may have fallen through the floor

Do you still have a marker for it?

[ivory fox]

yeah the marker was in the ship

1m away from me

so it was basically in the ship i guess

[granite meteor]

Weird, I think that's a mission that needs to be abandoned sadly

[ivory fox]

I cant even get 1 mission done :/

[granite meteor]

I'd recommend loading up as many delivery missions as you can at once, it's much more efficient

[ivory fox]

in 5 hours

[granite meteor]

But if your ship is on a pad it might get despawned

That's frustrating, sorry Friend

[ivory fox]

I got the mustang

so i tried delivery

but it seems like you cant do it with a mustang cos u cant use the cargohold atm?

what is the cargohold for then? 😐

[granite meteor]

Commodity trading

But it's bad at it

[ivory fox]

it's also bad at fighting cos it does no damage :x

can barely get through shields of other ships

[granite meteor]

The hornet has a 2scu hold

Idk why though, 2 scu trip isn't worth the fuel

F12 and ask for a loaner?
Avengers, cutlass, Lancer are all great for delivery missions

Pisces is pretty good too, but runs out of fuel easy

Vanguards too

[ivory fox]

F12 does nothing

I loaned a aurora for delivery

[granite meteor]

You can't commodity trade in a borrowed ship, but they're fine for delivery missions and bounty hunting missions

F12 should open your chat

Might need to hit enter and start typing

[ivory fox]

im not gonna loan since I haven't made money at all and im not sure if I just suck or if it's too buggy right now

[granite meteor]

Probably the bugs

Q4 patches are often really buggy, this one has followed the tradition

You can ask for a loaner for free
In fact paying folks is a bit too much of a hassle atm anyways

Lots of folks enjoy lending out their ships for free

[ivory fox]

i got 4 delivery missions where all 4 packages come from the same place

1 should work

and I think aurora can fit 4 packages

i dont really wanna loan a ship while im to dumb to do a simple delivery xD

[granite meteor]

It's not you, game is hecking buggy atm

I did 6 deliveries out of levski
By the end 3 had worked

3 had glitched to a broken state
2 were due to a covalex box not accepting the mission, and 1 fell through the elevator when I was moving them to the ship

[ivory fox]

I cant enter my ship

because the box glitches me ontop of the ship

any idea what i could do?

[patent frost]

Claim the ship so it respawns

[shy marten]

Anyone know best place to start running cargo from?

[steady geode]

what is the strat for widow selling nowadays?

[livid orchid]

@shy marten https://www.gallog.co/trading/

[patent frost]

Is this the most up to date trade tool? I've found several, but they all seem to be from around version 3.2-ish

[shy marten]

Ive been messing with the gallog tool. Just wondering if any particular spot was better for starting at

[hollow sedge]

Some news to an eventlual Origin 400i ? Maybe some leak..

[thorny needle]

if i'm mostly interested in cargo runs which should i get? cutlass black or freelancer?

[patent frost]

lancer base or max?

either way, base is better for pure trade

[hollow sedge]

Why the freelancer base is better than the max ?

[thorny needle]

just base

[obtuse ice]

I have this question as well ☝🏻

[wraith tree]

Now I’m curious as well

@patent frost why do you say that

[coral drum]

Freelancer Max is a cargo focussed version of the freelancer, it has 120 SCU as opposed to the base freelancers 66 SCU, as you can expect it doesn't quite fly as smooth and agile as the base either because of the extra mass...

It's not that it's better or worse, it's just it's focussed in a specific direction... The base is a good all-arounder... The max is focussed on cargo, the MIS is a missile boat and focussed on combat, and the DUR is the Explorer variant with a lot of extra range and an upgraded sensor package... The variants are only better in their respective fields... But whichever one is right for you, depends on what style of gameplay you want

Star citizen isn't about whether a ship is better than another, more accurate question is better at what?

Ships are made very role-specific in this game

[wraith tree]

@coral drum and that’s the thing that’s been driving me nuts, I have a base but I’m thinking of upgrading but cannot decide

[coral drum]

welcome to star citizen 😉

i stuck with the lancer base for quite a while

[wraith tree]

What did you upgrade to

[coral drum]

oh boy...

I currently have both a MAX and a DUR... max is good for medium freight, and can fit every vehicle... and dur is good for mission running, i can play all day and it almost never runs out of fuel.

I also have a caterpillar now for pure cargo/money making... a prospector for mining

For combat ships I like the odd ones for alternative tactics... i now have a saber raven & vanguard sentinel (EMP & E-Warfare), aegis Eclipse stealth bomber, aegis gladius for dogfighting and flying over planets (its the fastest in atmo), hornet & superhornet for dogfighting also as spares (I tend to blow these up because i'm a terrible combat pilot)... and a dragonfly bike for planet surfaces (fits in the back of the lancer DUR)... OH and a reliant SEN for sight seeing, etc... i just cannot get over that wide open view and the transformable flight model

it's a slippery slope my friend 😉

but yeah... it all started with the base freelancer... that was my first ship

a looong time ago

i'm sure i'm missing something in that list 🤔

yep, missed the anvil terrapin - got that too

[sweet lynx]

I am flying around the Aaron Halo in my Aurora looking for hand-mineable rocks. I keep scanning at 1x, but not finding anything. It has been almost 20 minutes. Am I doing something wrong? I thought this place was supposed to be full of FPS mineable rocks

[snow loom]

I don't believe all ship scanners can find minerals.

The most consistent way to find smaller mineral deposits is to get the cave investigation missions. The caves themselves are full of the stuff.

[wraith tree]

@coral drum I got the 325 as a fighter in 2013 then a freelancer soon after as the general do everything ship

[sweet lynx]

I just hate getting lost in dark caves. Floating around in space is way more fun

[wraith tree]

I’ve got a prospector and gonna get a mole. But I’m skipping the cat for the Hull

[snow loom]

I suggest renting a prospector. The ship quickly pays for itself.

[wraith tree]

I’ve debated the max or the mis, the dur is also neat but with no exploration mechanism ever shown it might be a while before it’s useful

[coral drum]

mole is shit solo

terrapin, reliant sen, and prospector can all find hand mineables

for dark caves buy flares and use them as breadcrumbs

[hollow sedge]

Im the only one who dream to an Origin 400i ou 500i ?

[wraith tree]

Well I’m keeping the prospector but a friend and I are looking for a crew industry ship

[coral drum]

if u have friends to crew it, then yeah grab a mole

and no jobarr... agree Origin needs a stepping stone between the 300 and 600 series

[wraith tree]

I got the lancer to be a kind of truck to make money alongside mining, but I’m wondering if I should get the max now that it has the same arms

[snow loom]

I think all exploration, mining, and science ships should be able to scan for minerals stock.

[wraith tree]

It feels like the max should have extended fuel like the dur, just without scanning ability

[snow loom]

Seems like CIG at least is making the latter two stock capable, but it'd be cool if a DUR for example could do it.

The Terrapin is weird. But I guess since it is THE scanning ship, it should be capable of all kinds of scanning.

I really hope they have a scanning v2 or something in the works. It's enjoyable, actually works, but it has shit UI, and isn't integrated into the ship systems at all.

And there is absolutely no user information on what kind of scanner you have and its capabilities. In contrast to say quantum drives or missiles or power plants where I get some understanding of my ship components.

[wraith tree]

Scanning right now really feels like scanning from the swtor mmo

The terrapins is neat. But I still cannot decide what to do about my freelancer especially when it feels like they know they need tweaks

They made the rails in the max clipping so that they don’t block the ursa which shows they know something is flawed to the point it needed a dirty fix

[unique cove]

They said the rails will be fixed at some point. They misjudged the length when making them

[white cairn]

I mean the rails look like they’re supposed to bend when not in use so it’s kinda weird that they’ve never animated it

[sweet lynx]

@coral drum How do you know those 3 ships can scan for hand mineables? Has CIG mentioned this somewhere?

[snow loom]

I don't know where the information ultimately came from, but it is indeed true.

At least I can personally confirm the Pros and Terrapin. The SEN I've heard others say.

[wraith tree]

It should just be a remote turret

Makes no sense to make some one shuffle past cargo to use it

[patent frost]

@wraith tree I was saying the lancer base was better than the Cutlass for trading, not better than max

[wraith tree]

Ah ok

@coral drum do you still use your max or do you regret having it?

[patent frost]

I just got a Max, great ship

[wraith tree]

The double scu with no weapons loose is nice

[steady stream]

MAX is great, the only FL that looks good imo lol

[wraith tree]

The base has a really streamlined look to it, the thing that bothers me about the max visually is it just kind of expands right behind the front guns

[brittle cove]

I use to run the max

Was a lovely ship

[wraith tree]

It’s a cosmetic thing that bothers me

[brittle cove]

I just wanted more so I melted upwards

[wraith tree]

What do you have now @brittle cove

[brittle cove]

I run a pirate cat and a regular cat (stand in for hull C)

[wraith tree]

Ah, the hull c is gonna be wild

[brittle cove]

Yeah boi

The cat is pretty nice

[wraith tree]

The cat is the best freighter right now, that 2,000+ scu of the hulls though will trounce it

[brittle cove]

4K +

Yay c

[wraith tree]

Yeah

[brittle cove]

I am so ready to run scrap

Just imagine 4K scu of scrap

That’s a lot of boxes of metal

Hrm. What if a salvage ship made scrap to the. Get tractors to the cat

[crimson badge]

can you not sell mined ore at everus harbor?

[brittle cove]

Like a chew and sell ship combo

They can patrol around ships taking out pirate enemies

Mmm tasty 9tail cubes for monies

No idea on the ore

Might need to be a refinery place like levamisole

Levski

[coral drum]

to respond to pings (sorry had to step out)

@sweet lynx i have all 3 (SEN, Terrapin have advanced sensor suit, SEN being a science ship, and terrapin being a pathfinder/tracker/ recon ship) and prospector is obvious

@wraith tree and no i dont regret the MAX at all its a great hauler (plus can fin any vehicle for some planet shenanigans with friends, including an ursa now!)

a lot of folks complain about the view, but its not that bad...and theres a side benefit... when the sun is in your face, you just need to rotate the ship a bit to block it 🙂

max can also land at grimm hex, where the caterpillar cannot as its too big

[wraith tree]

Yeah

Science ships are so vague right now

Like how will it work?

[late trench]

I have the option to upgrade from my base freelancer to a MAX or to a prospector, in terms of making money, is trading still best or is there benefits to be found in mining?

[wraith tree]

There isn’t a great answer to there because all the markets will change when the simulated economy is introduced

Some times one may be more profitable than the other

[late trench]

Guess it just comes down to what I wanna do?

Ill probably go with the max and then just rent a prospector for now

[wraith tree]

That’s a safe bet

Then for $5 more you can upgrade the max to a prospector if you want

Mining is really in flux, especially with the mole getting tested , so things might change

[late trench]

Yeah, cheers for the advice

[proven token]

Mole is pretty glichy atm

But cool

[wraith tree]

I’m really considering buying one as a future investment

[proven token]

Its a good ship to make money on I believe

[sweet lynx]

Is there anywhere to sell ship-mined ore in Microtech? Or do you have to jump all the way back to Loreville/Area18?

[wraith tree]

The real head scratcher is that they didn’t include an experimental beacon with the mole to let owners decide how to split profits and enforce work requirements

Some kind of system to test before more multi crew industry ships arrive

[half grotto]

@sweet lynx the station above Microtech should take it

[wraith tree]

@proven token have you had any trouble spawning your prospector?

[proven token]

Is it despawning?

Spawn it then immediately claim it

[blazing linden]

Hey, were there any cargo price changes in 3.8 and is gallog up to date?

[wraith tree]

No It says it’s being delivered to a pad and waits a minute then says it could not be retrieved

I’m wondering if it’s glitched because it was an upgrade

Like the legatus package people were having

[proven token]

Oh...

Idk

Sorry derc?

[sweet lynx]

@half grotto thx

Does anyone know if you can sell hand-mined ore in or near Microtech as well? The only places I've found where I can sell FPS mined stuff are Loreville and Area18

[proven token]

PO buys hand mineables

[sweet lynx]

Are you sure? I didn't have success there last time I tried

[flint wasp]

PO defo buys them

[wraith tree]

Ok went to a different station and claimed it and it worked

[proven token]

Nice.

Theres 2 terminals you gotta use

One for personal inventory and one for ship inventory

[flint wasp]

Those are the same terminal

It's cargo/personal inventory as one type of terminal. The second being for mining

[wraith tree]

Glad I hadn’t upgraded it yet

Getting armor and stuff back after wipe

If ships are gonna be more “persistent” then I might try buying ships with aUEC for giggles

[simple river]

anyone know a good cargo route or a good delivery mission route to earn some quick aeuc with the titan avenger?

[crimson badge]

id say do some delivery missions

the 4K ones

[simple river]

@crimson badge ok. why the 4k ones? and is there any specific location that has the best ones? sorry im a noob still

[crimson badge]

becuase some delivery missions only pay 1k, not really worth ti

[simple river]

true but what about all those 7k ones?

[lyric swift]

you can sell ore at po

[simple river]

ok. whats a good ore to buy and sell? also u know a good route to buy it from?

or is there just ore and not a specific one? lol hardcore noob here 🤦‍♂️

[flint wasp]

Cave mining is quite lucrative

For the basic gear to make it decently fast it's about 6k investment

A complete cave mining can net 33k profit in one go

[simple river]

ya i just dont like mining is all

[flint wasp]

The 7k deliveries usually are between planetary systems. It's best to accept multiple missions that go from roughly the same planetary system to the other same planetary system

Usually you can stack 4-5 missions that way

[simple river]

oh ok! thats really helpful thanx!

[flint wasp]

Another, illegal way, would be to do deliveries from GHex. You'll be carrying illegal cargo to drug labs.

[simple river]

ooo!

[flint wasp]

Gives you the chance to do the delivery, pick up drugs, and sell them again at GHex. Drug trading makes sense in small cargo ships as they have high profit margins

While of course being illegal.

So if security scans you with them they'll impound it, you'll get a fine and a crimestat

[simple river]

can i escape from security scans? and how do i get rid of a crimestat? also in your opinion is it worth the profit u make? and where do i pick drugs up from or like how do i start that kind of delivery?

[flint wasp]

You pick them up from GHex.
Profit imo is worth it. It's also the thrill of being outlaw scum
Crimestat can be cleared by paying the fine, getting killed by security or bounty hunters, or clearing your crimestat via hacking

A delivery from GHex to the Daymar druglab nets you about 7k from just the mission

Then on the way back to GHex you buy drugs at the Lab and sell them at GHex which should give you another 2-3k profit

You can run from security, though that alone will give you a crimestat for non-compliance

[simple river]

ah i see well at least then i wont get impounded.

but ok i might try that

after i have like 50k and have rented the free lancer is there any descent cargo route u would know of?

[flint wasp]

I personally enjoy doing it. It makes decent money while being on the criminal side

Mmm cargo trading requires a lot of capital to work with

I recommend renting a Prospector for a day and making money with that. Though that would be mining yet again

[simple river]

ya a prospector i might find fun havent tried yet

ok you know what thats what i'll do! where would u recommend to go mining?

[livid orchid]

I like Daymar

[flint wasp]

I've seen people get 80k loads at Yela

[simple river]

!!!!

[flint wasp]

I personally enjoy mining at Wala

[simple river]

damn ok. and do u only take super valuable rocks or take kinda everything high end value

[lavish hornet]

how much vice can you sell at one time?

[flint wasp]

That was posted earlier

From a Yela run

[simple river]

daaaaaamn

[flint wasp]

Depends, David

[livid orchid]

screens like that above mainly m,ake peoples disappointed in what you actually find 🙂

[flint wasp]

It does not make sense to haul drugs in any ship larger than a Titan imo. Just the sheer time you need to sell a full Cutlass is far too much to be fun

Oh wait scusi

Wrong one

That is my recent load from Wala

Was a 75% filled Mole

[wanton barn]

mining seems to be quite lucrative now in 3.8

[flint wasp]

Yup

They changed ore values quite a bit

[simple river]

thanx bro! imma give it a try!

[flint wasp]

You're welcome o7

[wanton barn]

yeah gonna do some missions and rent a prospector. i like the mining mechanics a lot in sc. the only thing that pissed me off was the poor cash you got

[flint wasp]

You can still get poor cash

But it's far easier to get good cash now

Just gotta pick your rocks

[livid orchid]

you can potentially have over 100k in a Prospector if scan for hours and only mine high density Taranite to make a beautiful screenshot

[flint wasp]

Yup

[wanton barn]

i once saw a rock with a high laranite amount but it was so instabil, it was impossible for me to crack it

i wonder if there are also different s1 lasers now to counter instability a bit

[livid orchid]

the new Laser makes mining tough stuff way easier

Helix

reduces instability and makes the green window bigger and you need less time in green window

[lavish hornet]

what quantum drive is good on a small ship?

[wanton barn]

beacon is very fast but needs a lot of fuel. expedition is also fast and quite fuel efficient

[flint wasp]

Yeah there's different lasers now. Luckily, they tell you exactly what buffs or debuffs they have in the shop window

[wanton barn]

anyone knows the renting cost for a prospector? it was about 40k iirc

[livid orchid]

@flint wasp if you mine at Wala can you sell at Orbital station now? Because I hate having to fly into atmo to sell

[median yacht]

40k a day.

For a prospector.

[wanton barn]

thank you @median yacht

[cerulean bone]

The Atlas is one of the better small q-drives for efficiency with some speed

[simple river]

where do i get drugs at at grim hex? or how do i start the mission to get drugs?

[flint wasp]

@livid orchid Nah gotta get into Area18

Though they adjusted quantum dropout for area 18 so it's fairly quick

@simple river they're under "personal". any delivery that starts at GHex

[simple river]

oh ok ty!

[flint wasp]

Np

[heady dagger]

i had a 103k load yesterday, mostly agri and laranite

mole solo

[flint wasp]

Noice

Which moon?

[proven token]

Im always afraid to take too long

Cause 30k and no profits :(

[heady dagger]

Yela

[ivory fox]

If my mission is on the other side of the planet

is there a way to reach it faster than flying 600km?

[lavish hornet]

Plot it in f2 and then you'll get a mid way jump

[winter skiff]

How much to refill the mole

[ivory fox]

I cant plot the collection site it seems

only the planet

[dapper yoke]

@livid orchid Where do you mine at?

[livid orchid]

Daymar

[proven token]

Daymar is good but the sand storms suck

Especially at night

The mole's lasers cant see shit

[livid orchid]

yes I hate the night side QD into day

I don't like the lighting in SC for night even in the cities they look too dark to me the light does not seem to naturally scatter enough or lack of background light from night sky

[wanton barn]

are these mining claims safe for mining or are they all occupied?

[proven token]

Some have pirates

[wanton barn]

meaning some dont. thanks 😄

[inland scarab]

any one have a good basic how the scanning system works when searching for asteroids ? can i fly at 900 speed and still scan?

[lavish hornet]

Yeah, press tab and then hold rmb

Once it's charged let it go and it will pulse

Fly to the squares to see the asteroids

[inland scarab]

yala is the best!

[honest swallow]

nice

so helix is a must for maximizing solo profit

[lone bloom]

w00t89 do you have room on your crew?

[wraith tree]

@inland scarab yela belt or surface

[inland scarab]

im soloing and i have the Helix laser
i was mining only the serface of Yela

[winter skiff]

How much does it cost in fuel per trip to refuel the mole

[simple river]

where is the best place to mine using the prospector

[granite meteor]

Aaron Halo?

Or Yela

[inland scarab]

i never been to Aoron Halo
but so far Yela has done good for me...

[proven token]

Daymar is solid too

[proven token]

Nice

[ember hinge]

looking to get in to the mining aspect, can you rent a prospector?

been hauling cargo with a cutlass for a little bit

[proven token]

Yea you can rent a prospector for like 40k

[inland scarab]

Is it worth all the trouble to go to the Aeron belt?

[honest swallow]

not sure, there are plenty of Agricium and Laranite on yela

[wraith tree]

Oof, I’m only averaging 17k in the prospector:(

I need that new mining head

[inland scarab]

yeah you need to mind what you mine 😛

[wraith tree]

Yeah I need to be more picky

Got any tips?

[honest swallow]

Derc always go for agricium and laranite

and only mine the cheaper material if they are 100% purity

and upgrade to a helix when you can

[wraith tree]

Those are a real pain to find

[frigid quail]

Merry Christmas everyone!

Just have a question about cargo. So I have 2 Argo Moles and an Orion. I am heavily invested into mining in this game and was wondering what would be best to transport the cargo produced between the 3 ships (also, does the Orion carry its own cargo?)

I was thinking either a Hull C or D. I know its early on but just curious on your thoughts

[proven token]

hull b can go into atmosphere

[honest swallow]

my take is there would be a small refinery on mole and a large on on orion, and orion will be stationed in the belts and keep mining while a hull c can take the cargo both to stations and atmo?

[proven token]

no refinery on the mole

[honest swallow]

pardon me

[proven token]

hull C can go into atmosphere?

[frigid quail]

I dont mind if the cargo can go into atmo as the moles can simply connect with the hull and drop the goods off. after being refined on the orion of course. thats how i imagine it to go anyways

[inland scarab]

im telling you... Yela is the money!

[smoky glade]

Yeahhhhh
I left Arial after seeing the convos here and, hell, this only took me 30 minutes.

[granite meteor]

Wow nice

To find the aaron halo, jump from delamar to CRU L5 frequently the belt will interdict you,
If not, kill engines at 1.4 million to 1.3 million,

But Arial is probably more worth it if you're pulling 81% agricium

[smoky glade]

You can also take any path that crosses Delamar's orbit, as the Aaron Halo lies on that orbit.

Oh - that was from Yela - I left Arial

I normally mine Bexalite but it was far too tedious - takes ages to find rocks

[granite meteor]

Oh, fair enough

Yela it is then d:

[livid orchid]

30 min seems unlikely 🙂

but well done

[smoky glade]

My first and 2nd rock were +18% agricium - that was the only reason it didn't take as long

[honest swallow]

well this is my new record for half an hour now

[tall badger]

Mole minewhat mining ships do u guys use?

[inland scarab]

Prospector is OP more then the Mole

[wanton barn]

merry x-mas guys. where do they sell mining lasers?

nvm found it 😄

[foggy burrow]

so not all cargo is taken to the same trader? ( i thought all was sold at admin ofices )

alsow by getting the pirate badge can i still get the normal caterpilar from store or only the pirate one?

[dawn hemlock]

Normal cat isn’t on sale atm

When it goes on sale you can

[granite meteor]

Pirate cat is on sale all the time but can't be upgraded to
So long as you've completed pirate swarm

Regular cat is only on sale each November anniversary sale, and can be upgraded to

Also if pirate cat / gladius are melted they used to disappear from one's buyback list,
idk if that's still the case

[livid orchid]

which of the Argo mole mining head slots 1/2/3 is actually the middle one?

indicator is not 100% for me as you cant zoom in

[heady dagger]

middle for me was the last on the menu

[bitter brook]

Looking at getting the reliant, for some hauling. Within my price range anyone who can recommend it?

[proven token]

Mole is suppose to have one S2 in the middle

Atm they all say they are S2

but they share stats with the S1s so yea

[median yacht]

@bitter brook Avenger Titan is much better for hauling.

And is cheaper.

Avenger has 8scu and Reliant has 6scu.

Avenger is just an all-round better ship too.

[livid orchid]

315p has 12 SCU btw but worse at fighting ofc

[median yacht]

I feel like the only reason to have a Reliant is just because it looks pretty neat >.>

[bitter brook]

Yeah the reliant looks pretty awesome

The avenger cockpit is not so nice lol

[median yacht]

I have a Reliant Tana that I love, but pretty much everything about it is worse than an Avenger.

Reliant Tana doesn't have a bed or anything.

Er, Reliant kore even.

For pure hauling a 315 is the best in the category. Avenger is just a good ship as it can do everything to some degree.

[bitter brook]

Yeah I noticed that, I think I may go more towards the avenger then just don’t like the look of it lol

[median yacht]

Itll grow on you.

[crimson badge]

yeah id say Avenger Titan or 300i, very good starter ships, for a very small bump in price over the base Mustang/Aurora

[wanton barn]

are there better places to mine with a prospector than yela asteroid belt?

[median yacht]

Surface of Daymar is pretty good

[wanton barn]

isnt it a pain to find something on a surface? did it only once and found 2 rocks in 30 minutes

[median yacht]

Ive never had much trouble.

[wanton barn]

aight maybe i´ve been on the wrong moon 😄 gonna try it there, thank you

[median yacht]

I think most of the moons are about the same, its just some have difference resources.