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median yacht Dec 13, 2019, 9:39 PM

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Yeah you get it as a loaner just so you're not locked out of testing combat related stuff I think.

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It'll disappear when the game goes to a more full release.

tawny otter Dec 13, 2019, 9:40 PM

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ah gotya thats cool then, assuming that comes with the connie too?

median yacht Dec 13, 2019, 9:41 PM

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The loaner matrix doesn't say so but it doesn't say the Freelancer gets one either.

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https://support.robertsspaceindustries.com/hc/en-us/articles/360003093114-Loaner-Ship-Matrix

Cloud Imperium Games Knowledge Base

Loaner Ship Matrix

Have you found yourself in possession of a pledge that's not yet Flight Ready? We've got you covered, providing you with a loaner ship to ensure that you are able to fly inside the current version ...

tawny otter Dec 13, 2019, 9:43 PM

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any timeframe on the Taurus release date

median yacht Dec 13, 2019, 9:43 PM

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Nope.

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Its not on the roadmap.

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It was, then it vanished and hasn't been heard from since >.>

tawny otter Dec 13, 2019, 9:44 PM

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it went to the farm lmao

proven token Dec 13, 2019, 9:55 PM

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Its in the same place as the redemer

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Development hell

tawny otter Dec 13, 2019, 9:56 PM

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so whats the best bet right now? keep the Max?

median yacht Dec 13, 2019, 9:56 PM

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Pretty much.

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Best cargo hauler other than the Cat at the moment I think.

proven token Dec 13, 2019, 9:58 PM

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Freelancer is good and holds its own in a fight

median yacht Dec 13, 2019, 9:59 PM

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Not a fan of the Freelancers myself but they seem pretty solid.

proven token Dec 13, 2019, 10:02 PM

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Its beefy as hell, if you run into trouble you can handle it.

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You just tank rounds and blow them to hell and back with your guns

tawny otter Dec 13, 2019, 10:27 PM

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thats super true

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whats wrong with lorville trading

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I cant trade anything there for some reason

tawny otter Dec 13, 2019, 10:45 PM

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squggly what do you use

median yacht Dec 13, 2019, 10:51 PM

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I don’t do cargo runs really, I melted my Caterpillar during the sale.

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Got the exploration pack with the Carrack and CCUd the DUR into a Prospector.

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I got frustrated at not being able to sell my entire inventory at one stop.

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Because the shop inventory was full.

tawny otter Dec 13, 2019, 10:54 PM

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can you melt your ship as much as you want

median yacht Dec 13, 2019, 10:55 PM

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You can but you can only buyback with store credit if you have a buyback token

tawny otter Dec 13, 2019, 10:55 PM

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how tf do you get a buyback token

median yacht Dec 13, 2019, 10:56 PM

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You get given one every 3 months I think

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And if you didn’t use the previous one you don’t accumulate them

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Freelancer max is always available though so if it’s standalone that shouldn’t be a problem for you.

tawny otter Dec 13, 2019, 10:58 PM

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how is mining

median yacht Dec 13, 2019, 10:59 PM

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I enjoy it. FPS mining is much more profitable than using the ship mining laser though

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Unless you find a particularly rich node

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I usually just use the scanner on the prospector to find the FPS mining nodes on the surface of Daymar.

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But you can do FPS mining in caves too.

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You can also rent a prospector for about 40k for 24hours if you wanna give it a try

coarse barn Dec 13, 2019, 11:54 PM

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Best FPS money is caves in a group if you can get someone to run security

tawny otter Dec 13, 2019, 11:59 PM

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is the prospector the only ship with a good enough scanner

median yacht Dec 13, 2019, 11:59 PM

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The terrapin and reliant SEN can also find FPS nodes on the surface but they’re either bugged or not as good as the prospector right now

coarse barn Dec 14, 2019, 12:03 AM

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Prospector has the scanner for now like Key said, but even then hadonite is rare on surface from what I've seen

median yacht Dec 14, 2019, 12:03 AM

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Not on Daymar

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It’s literally all I find

coarse barn Dec 14, 2019, 12:04 AM

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Hmm, something to think about I suppose. Haven't had any luck

median yacht Dec 14, 2019, 12:04 AM

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Came across 5 nodes together earlier today.

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And I don’t run the risk of getting murdered in a cave too.

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Or lost.

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Honestly though give it a shot. Fly around on the surface at about 500m. You’ll find loads of hadanite

tawny otter Dec 14, 2019, 12:21 AM

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I was going to get the prospect but you cant purchase it with store credit lol

wraith tree Dec 14, 2019, 12:27 AM

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what is a good cargo run for the freelancer?

lean fog Dec 14, 2019, 1:09 AM

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Diamonds. Cellin T&M to Port Olisar

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Takes minutes

lusty tulip Dec 14, 2019, 1:23 AM

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what is the best use of my cutlass black for hauling? like with low starting cash and max money per route? please and thank you

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I can do like 3 quick pickups and drop offs to get like 18k to start with I think

lean fog Dec 14, 2019, 1:30 AM

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The run I just recommended

lusty tulip Dec 14, 2019, 1:39 AM

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thanks I will try that in a min DDOS how much ecu is it for a full 46scu you think?

lament valve Dec 14, 2019, 1:52 AM

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@glass hare PTU is live make sure you start running cargo

lusty tulip Dec 14, 2019, 2:11 AM

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is ptu only for the $20 plan?

half grotto Dec 14, 2019, 2:16 AM

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$10 plan can also access it

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As well as concierge

lusty tulip Dec 14, 2019, 2:23 AM

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not sure where to find the download for the ptu

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I just bought the $10 dollar one and think concierge is dark

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nvm found it guess it finally kicked in

half grotto Dec 14, 2019, 2:25 AM

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https://robertsspaceindustries.com/account/copy/ptu

Access denied - Roberts Space Industries | Follow the development of Star Citizen and Squadron 42

Roberts Space Industries is the official go-to website for all news about Star Citizen and Squadron 42. It also hosts the online store for game items and merch, as well as all the community tools used by our fans.

rich spire Dec 14, 2019, 4:47 AM

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in PTU so far, Laranite from cellin to PO is 20k profit in a Cutlass

wraith tree Dec 14, 2019, 4:54 AM

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@proven token https://reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/eac0kk/argo_mole_variants_revealed/

Argo MOLE Variants Revealed!

vehicle_DescARGO_Mole=Manufacturer: Argo Astronautics\nFocus: Mining\n\nARGO’s iconic multi-operator laser extractor, more commonly referred to as...

proven token Dec 14, 2019, 4:58 AM

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MOLE

wraith tree Dec 14, 2019, 5:04 AM

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Like where is it already

proven token Dec 14, 2019, 5:05 AM

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how long is it until it goes on sale you think?

wraith tree Dec 14, 2019, 5:11 AM

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I mean it seemed like 3.8 round about

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But who knows

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Maybe they feel the need to make a commercial for it first

proven token Dec 14, 2019, 5:14 AM

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i dont mind a little longer, i gotta get a paycheck to recover

wraith tree Dec 14, 2019, 5:18 AM

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I’m curious on the price

proven token Dec 14, 2019, 5:18 AM

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same.

wraith tree Dec 14, 2019, 5:18 AM

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As?

sturdy pelican Dec 14, 2019, 5:18 AM

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Z_ship Catterpillar

stark torrentBOT Dec 14, 2019, 5:18 AM

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Either that ship does not exist or your search query was imprecise

wraith tree Dec 14, 2019, 5:18 AM

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I haven’t seen a price

sturdy pelican Dec 14, 2019, 5:18 AM

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Z_ship Caterpillar

stark torrentBOT Dec 14, 2019, 5:18 AM

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Drake Caterpillar

Focus:

Transport

Length:

111.5m

Height:

12.5m

Beam:

39m

Mass:

1,608,205 Kg

Crew:

5

Cargo:

592 SCU

Value:

$295

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wraith tree Dec 14, 2019, 5:18 AM

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$295 for mole?

proven token Dec 14, 2019, 5:19 AM

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idk is it worth having a prospector if you have a mole? even if you need to switch seats to mine?

wraith tree Dec 14, 2019, 5:19 AM

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Z_ship mole

stark torrentBOT Dec 14, 2019, 5:19 AM

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Argo Mole

Focus:

Mining

Length:

N/A

Height:

N/A

Beam:

N/A

Mass:

N/A

Crew:

2

Cargo:

64 SCU

Value:

N/A

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wraith tree Dec 14, 2019, 5:19 AM

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Switching will be a pain

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If you get one we can take turns Piloting and mining

proven token Dec 14, 2019, 5:20 AM

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frustrating they didn't just give the pilot one

wraith tree Dec 14, 2019, 5:20 AM

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It’s an odd choice

proven token Dec 14, 2019, 5:20 AM

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I just flew around with a group for like 4 hours trying to coordinate some combat as a group. Guess how much actual combat we did, like 0

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bugs, people dieing, people going afk

wraith tree Dec 14, 2019, 5:20 AM

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I do wonder if they will add rocks that require an extra ship to help break

proven token Dec 14, 2019, 5:21 AM

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having to go back and pick people up

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its such a pain to coordinate more then 1 other person

wraith tree Dec 14, 2019, 5:21 AM

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I know the feeling

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They need to add temp group banking with sales agreements

proven token Dec 14, 2019, 5:22 AM

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get attacked randomly, blow up before you can react, ect.ect.

wraith tree Dec 14, 2019, 5:22 AM

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So if you get a crew and a cargo ship to help unload to and have him sell it then all the crew get a fixed cut

proven token Dec 14, 2019, 5:22 AM

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i agree

wraith tree Dec 14, 2019, 5:23 AM

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Maybe part of the contract system

proven token Dec 14, 2019, 5:24 AM

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yea, like 1 hour obligated work, stay within my ship, and get 50% of the profits we produce or somthing

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good workers are going to be hard to find, as I have seen multiple times now

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people in turrets going AFK

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people randomly crashing

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ect.

wraith tree Dec 14, 2019, 5:46 AM

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I’m curious to see what the mole can do compared to the prospector

proven token Dec 14, 2019, 6:04 AM

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if it can filter

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its 100% better

wraith tree Dec 14, 2019, 6:46 AM

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The Prospector will only be removing things like useless rock, the processing equipment on the Orion is much more advanced.```

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What are the mining heads that see mentioned in 3.8 or 3.9

proven token Dec 14, 2019, 6:49 AM

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I guess they mine faster / slower / with more stability

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like you have options

wraith tree Dec 14, 2019, 7:04 AM

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Well iv found laranite is very unstable so I might go the slow route

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And speed up time with beer

proven token Dec 14, 2019, 7:14 AM

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yea

livid orchid Dec 14, 2019, 7:48 AM

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@wraith tree where is that Prospector refining answer from?

wraith tree Dec 14, 2019, 7:49 AM

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the cargo hauling margins just seem meh

livid orchid Dec 14, 2019, 7:49 AM

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interesting that Prospector will be able to filter out useless rock that will be huge

wraith tree Dec 14, 2019, 7:49 AM

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https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/engineering/15319-Q-A-MISC-Prospector-Part-II

Q&A: MISC Prospector - Part II - Roberts Space Industries | Follow the development of Star Citizen and Squadron 42

Roberts Space Industries is the official go-to website for all news about Star Citizen and Squadron 42. It also hosts the online store for game items and merch, as well as all the community tools used by our fans.

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its rather old

half grotto Dec 14, 2019, 7:49 AM

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Cargo profit is best when you have a lot of capacity

wraith tree Dec 14, 2019, 7:50 AM

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📎 MISC_Prospector_Laser_Cutter.png

livid orchid Dec 14, 2019, 7:50 AM

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thanks I missed that - as for Cargo yes they have to solve the prob to make ships other than Cat+ profitable

wraith tree Dec 14, 2019, 7:52 AM

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I suppose, iv pulled in like 30k with the prospector which iv felt is pretty good

livid orchid Dec 14, 2019, 7:53 AM

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you can make lots of money but you have to be either lucky or scan a long time and skip many low concentration rocks

wraith tree Dec 14, 2019, 7:53 AM

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yeah

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im still figuring out how to use gallog.co

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see what would be the best route for my freelancer

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maybe 23,000 profit from moving laranite from hdms-bezdek to the orphange

livid orchid Dec 14, 2019, 7:57 AM

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how much is a Freelancer MAX cargo full of laranite?

wraith tree Dec 14, 2019, 7:57 AM

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thats not bad for a quick run

livid orchid Dec 14, 2019, 7:57 AM

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or normal freelancer?

wraith tree Dec 14, 2019, 7:57 AM

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normal

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I havn't decided if I want to upgrade my freelancer to something else yet

livid orchid Dec 14, 2019, 8:01 AM

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have stayed away from the high value runs yet will try in 3.8 with hopefully reduced chance of loosing whole cargo

wraith tree Dec 14, 2019, 8:03 AM

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yeah

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its going to be interesting to see which economies get saturated

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when quanta come and then the market fluxates

livid orchid Dec 14, 2019, 8:24 AM

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scrap run in Cat was great when you could rent it but few ships give Cat as loaner I got Hull but they give Starfarer and Reclaimer as loaner which is kind of bad as ppl who got them want to do hauling/trading so a Cat as loaner would be better

livid orchid Dec 14, 2019, 8:55 AM

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is there a list somewhere of the new Quantum speeds in 3.8?

agile fiber Dec 14, 2019, 9:38 AM

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📎 unknown3.png

livid orchid Dec 14, 2019, 9:55 AM

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ah great erkul already has PTU variant up https://ptu.erkul.games/qdrives

Star Citizen DPS Calculator by Erkul

Star Citizen tools for DPS, damage, power and cooling simulations including an up to date ships and components database

cold spire Dec 14, 2019, 4:21 PM

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Can a Caterpillar land anywhere (stations and planets) ?

half grotto Dec 14, 2019, 4:23 PM

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Pretty much

brittle cove Dec 14, 2019, 4:33 PM

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Starfarer is a pretty fun ship to fly though

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it makes me feel like a captain with a crew

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plus its fun to tour with people

tawdry inlet Dec 14, 2019, 8:41 PM

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Can you sell a flight recorder as cargo?🤔

hollow sedge Dec 15, 2019, 12:02 AM

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What is a good way to start hauling ?
Which ship ?

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Cutlass, Caterpillar, or Starfarer.

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And how much funds should i save to start ?

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Cutlass is just over a hundred, Caterpillar just under 300

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I mean how much funds do i need for the goods to make it worth ?

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Go to versemate.com as it varies run some model with different ship to sse what fits your budget, I love the Caterpillar a million aUEC in two days last month.

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Sounds really nice 🙂

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It's fun, just watch out for griefers.

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Mhm no stealth hauling yet ? 😄

cunning fiber Dec 15, 2019, 12:56 AM

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Does the URSA rover fit in the freelancer MIS?

crystal trail Dec 15, 2019, 12:57 AM

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nope

cunning fiber Dec 15, 2019, 1:02 AM

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Anything that does fit?

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@crystal trail

crystal trail Dec 15, 2019, 1:02 AM

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bikes

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maybe greycat? not sure on that one

cunning fiber Dec 15, 2019, 1:03 AM

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Sad

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all the bikes aren't in the store anymore

solemn cradle Dec 15, 2019, 1:04 AM

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thought the cyclones fit.

twin tapir Dec 15, 2019, 3:12 AM

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A Constellation will carry an Ursa rover

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Freelancer Max is great for cargo.

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Cargo commodities earn 10% to 20% profit per run.

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Limit is size of ship and whether you can afford to fill it up.

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And remember that this is alpha: a ship can still explode for no reason. Never sink your entire fortune into one load.

alpine quartz Dec 15, 2019, 3:17 AM

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Wiser words have never been spoken, on that last bit.

twin tapir Dec 15, 2019, 3:18 AM

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If you are tempted to do so... Then fill half the ship with a cheaper commodity.

harsh crane Dec 15, 2019, 3:21 AM

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I have an Aurora LN and looking to haul more than a few boxes every patch wipe. What should I purchase for efficiency early game?

twin tapir Dec 15, 2019, 3:24 AM

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A good step up is the Avenger Titan. It can carry boxes, take on NPC bounties, and carry some cargo.

harsh crane Dec 15, 2019, 3:24 AM

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Currently traveling to Orphanage to drop off 2 boxes at the same time so I can earn myself some moneys.

twin tapir Dec 15, 2019, 3:24 AM

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Bounty mission are less risky. No seed money to lose if the ship explode s.

harsh crane Dec 15, 2019, 3:24 AM

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What's odd is that I had a Titan and then it left my list, probably because I stole it a few patches back before I went dormant.

twin tapir Dec 15, 2019, 3:25 AM

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A Titan can make good money on drugs. 8 scu

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Legal trading needs more capacity.

harsh crane Dec 15, 2019, 3:26 AM

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No illegal, too square for that.

twin tapir Dec 15, 2019, 3:27 AM

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A Cutlass can run legal cargo, but is on the small side. A base Freelancer is a good truck.

harsh crane Dec 15, 2019, 3:27 AM

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Thank you @twin tapir

twin tapir Dec 15, 2019, 3:27 AM

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And still good in a fight with NPCs.

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Your welcome

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Tip: If your ship has multiple doors, avoid entering by the cargo hatch. If you use a door that has an "Enter Ship" option, then nobody else can sneak in with you.

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Ex: Freelancer side door.

harsh crane Dec 15, 2019, 3:31 AM

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Good tip

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Haven't had any people trying to be trouble.

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But been only really playing for like 5 days throughout the time of me owning this game back in 2014.

twin tapir Dec 15, 2019, 3:32 AM

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Some pirates will lurk and try to get in while you are distracted closing the hatch.

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Also: Check your ships local chat channel. If there is someone on it that you do not recognize.....

harsh crane Dec 15, 2019, 3:34 AM

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I need to learn all this stuff.

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I think SC is a great game, the learning curve is so high.

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Guess it makes it easy to weed out the non-dedicated.

twin tapir Dec 15, 2019, 3:34 AM

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Yeah. Tutorials are pathetic, too.

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I generally make money running metals into ArcCorp or Hurston from one of their moons.

harsh crane Dec 15, 2019, 3:36 AM

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I'm trying to get up there.

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Have like 70k creds

twin tapir Dec 15, 2019, 3:37 AM

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I would say that running Bounty hunter near Delamar is good way to build the seed money. Anenger or Freelancer or Cutlass can do that.

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I have not tried mining, but have heard it is profitable too.

harsh crane Dec 15, 2019, 3:39 AM

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Yeah, started out watching YouTube videos where I can make some decent money so I can get to metals as I don't want to depend on a large group with alternative motives.

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I just want to see what's possible and immerse myself.

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If that makes sense.

twin tapir Dec 15, 2019, 3:39 AM

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Aurora can do that too, if pilot is skilled. I am not.

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Yep.

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Takes all kinds.

harsh crane Dec 15, 2019, 3:40 AM

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When would you suggest renting ships?

twin tapir Dec 15, 2019, 3:41 AM

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Well, right now, rentals are bugged and do not expire....

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Also, a new version is going to drop this week or next, and will reset the database. Including wiping out in game currentcy

harsh crane Dec 15, 2019, 3:42 AM

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Hmmm

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So maybe I should go rent and have some fun with this money.

twin tapir Dec 15, 2019, 3:43 AM

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Yep.

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Just practice stuff.

harsh crane Dec 15, 2019, 3:43 AM

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Where's a good rental spot?

twin tapir Dec 15, 2019, 3:43 AM

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Maybe you will hate cargo.

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ArcCorp, Riker Spaceport, main terminal.

harsh crane Dec 15, 2019, 3:44 AM

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Maybe that's how I lost my Titan.

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I never purchased it, but I remember grabbing it from a patrol a long time ago.

twin tapir Dec 15, 2019, 3:44 AM

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Rental terminal is near ship spawn terminals,

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Ahh.

harsh crane Dec 15, 2019, 3:45 AM

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It was funny because NPCs were pretty dumb. Not sure how they are now>

twin tapir Dec 15, 2019, 3:45 AM

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Yes. DB resets revert to what you bought with real cash.

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Still dumb. But improving slowly.

harsh crane Dec 15, 2019, 3:45 AM

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Maybe I should buy it straight out.

twin tapir Dec 15, 2019, 3:46 AM

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This next version has a backend feature that will free up a lot of server memory. If it works, that can be used to load better AI code.

harsh crane Dec 15, 2019, 3:46 AM

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Out of the 3, which would you recommend. Cutlass or Freelanced or Anenger?

twin tapir Dec 15, 2019, 3:47 AM

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You can upgrade a ship on the website.

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Cutlass is better for combat, and more fun to fly. Freelancer is better for cargo, and more tanky. Both have turrets, but are still good solo.

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Avenger is cheaper. Could get that first, then upgrade to one of the others after some experience.

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I gotta go....

harsh crane Dec 15, 2019, 3:50 AM

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Later.

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Thanks for the info

torn forge Dec 15, 2019, 4:28 AM

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@harsh crane You can upgrade your starter to an Avenger for $15-20, depending on which starter you have.

harsh crane Dec 15, 2019, 4:38 AM

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I have an LN, I might just go with an Avenger. I just rented a Prospector since I like mining but thank you so much for the info @torn forge

rigid badge Dec 15, 2019, 4:44 AM

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can i load my freelancer with illicit goods from a druglab and sell that all at once to another druglab?

rich spire Dec 15, 2019, 5:47 AM

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Yes and no

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You wont be able to sell everything at one place, you can but youd have to wait for that place to refresh its stock. It would take you longer than going to different places to sell. Really isn't worth the trouble of running Vice

warm sail Dec 15, 2019, 5:58 AM

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Anyone know any good scrap runs? i'm bored

feral forge Dec 15, 2019, 10:45 AM

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Cutlass is a lifestyle.

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PES_LoveKing

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I love that ship too much. And I don’t even like the look of it, but idk it’s just love.

warm sail Dec 15, 2019, 11:22 AM

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"don't get rammed" lol, so true atm

livid orchid Dec 15, 2019, 11:47 AM

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Has anyone seen size 1 Atlas Quantum drive for sale? Seems to have a great compromise between speed and fuel use. Maybe you cant buy it yet no idea.

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OK Atlas can be bought in Port Olisar Dumpers Depot and its also quite cheap

rigid badge Dec 15, 2019, 3:51 PM

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hey i wanna do trade runs, but i dont know how to plan routes as all websites i know assume the buying stations has infinite demand

rigid badge Dec 15, 2019, 5:19 PM

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what about R&R Stations?

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yeah well, but i dont think it does a big difference if im at PO, want to go to arccorp, and while i go there trade some medical supplies to a RR

wraith tree Dec 15, 2019, 7:25 PM

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does it feel like the freelancer got gimped? seems like the base should get 120SCU and the Max could go away

rigid badge Dec 15, 2019, 7:26 PM

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do grimhex and levski have infinite demand?

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I like the freelancer sofar @wraith tree

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but ill rent the constellation next

wraith tree Dec 15, 2019, 8:03 PM

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I like it too, i'm just wondering if it got kind of gimped

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i'm feeling like I should have bought a Cat back in the day when they were cheap

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maybe i'll get one in game

oblique zodiac Dec 15, 2019, 8:06 PM

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I didn't realize Cats were limited until extremely recently, but luckily, I decided to snag one during the Anniversary event

lean fog Dec 15, 2019, 8:29 PM

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I need to do that still

brittle cove Dec 15, 2019, 8:30 PM

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thats still an option?

oblique zodiac Dec 15, 2019, 8:30 PM

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Eh, that's arguably still "limited" to be fair.

brittle cove Dec 15, 2019, 8:30 PM

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how do you beat pirate swarm?

lean fog Dec 15, 2019, 8:30 PM

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Survive all the waves

brittle cove Dec 15, 2019, 8:31 PM

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what is it under? areana commander?

lean fog Dec 15, 2019, 8:31 PM

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On the main menu

brittle cove Dec 15, 2019, 8:32 PM

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found it

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multiplayer only?

lean fog Dec 15, 2019, 8:32 PM

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You can single player

brittle cove Dec 15, 2019, 8:32 PM

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does it matter the map?

wraith tree Dec 15, 2019, 8:49 PM

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@vivid sleet I beat pirate swarm and that pirate cat isn't available for pledge for me

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oh no i did not

brittle cove Dec 15, 2019, 8:50 PM

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hoping onto ,ultiplayer now

wraith tree Dec 15, 2019, 8:50 PM

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i take it that it costs the same as a normal cat for pledge

brittle cove Dec 15, 2019, 8:51 PM

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how much does a normal cat cost

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oh thats not aweful

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but it will show up for pledges when completed right

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what is the main difference anyway

wraith tree Dec 15, 2019, 8:52 PM

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a skin

brittle cove Dec 15, 2019, 8:52 PM

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solid

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ill be in group 2 if anyone wanted to get the cat then

oblique zodiac Dec 15, 2019, 8:55 PM

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We're busting it down to a semantics issue, but my point really is "it's not readily and easily accessible in the store at all times" like some other ships are.

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Alternative ways of unlocking it aside, it's not always in the store

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I can't do it so 🤷 but I'm disabled and a lot of stuff is a lot more difficult for me

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I appreciate the offer, I will keep it in mind. 🙂

wraith tree Dec 15, 2019, 11:48 PM

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@proven token do you have any clue what the rear hatch on the prospector is supposed to be?

proven token Dec 15, 2019, 11:52 PM

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Suppose to be a filter i guess

wraith tree Dec 15, 2019, 11:53 PM

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the door that opens?

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and the thing that lowers?

proven token Dec 15, 2019, 11:55 PM

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yea

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📎 unknown.png

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this is 3.8 with me just collecting a random rock they seem to do a lot better with ammounts

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mining Daymar*

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Mining might be a little better in 3.8

half grotto Dec 16, 2019, 12:03 AM

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They addressed that in one of the hour long shows a few months ago, it's related to hand mining iirc

proven token Dec 16, 2019, 12:03 AM

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Oh you can handmine with the prospector?

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thats cool I guess

half grotto Dec 16, 2019, 12:03 AM

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As far as I'm aware that little hatch thing doesn't work just yet though

proven token Dec 16, 2019, 12:04 AM

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dosn't work but you can drop it down

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I know they have 'under the surface' minables planned

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big rich deposites

proven token Dec 16, 2019, 12:31 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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Not bad, I can't get the really nice expensive minerals but I can get the easier stuff with a Tier 1 mining laser

foggy temple Dec 16, 2019, 12:54 AM

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Does smuggling fit into this section?

errant cradle Dec 16, 2019, 1:06 AM

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uhh

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sure

wraith tree Dec 16, 2019, 1:18 AM

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thats pretty good @proven token , better than the 48% averages I sometimes get with inert even after being picky as hell

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I wonder if they'll change the way you get cargo once the big hull ships come

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filling a Hull C or higher won't be cheap

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probably will require more than 1 type of resource

obsidian matrix Dec 16, 2019, 1:24 AM

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Is scrapping possible yet? and If so, is it profitable

half grotto Dec 16, 2019, 1:25 AM

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Not in yet

obsidian matrix Dec 16, 2019, 1:28 AM

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Maybe 3.8 or no?

half grotto Dec 16, 2019, 1:29 AM

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https://robertsspaceindustries.com/roadmap

RSI Roadmap

The Roberts Space Industries Star Citizen and Squadron 42 roadmaps.

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4.0, assuming it doesn't get pushed yet again

obsidian matrix Dec 16, 2019, 1:33 AM

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That's not bad, so I guess I'll stick to mining, my dream of become a junker will have to wait

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I haven't played the ptu, but is the Argo mole accually in game? All the things I've read say testing and what not

dark bane Dec 16, 2019, 1:37 AM

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don't think so

sinful raft Dec 16, 2019, 1:38 AM

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How's the community around space trucking in this game? I wanna buy it, but I reckon I'll get bored quickly if playing alone

dark bane Dec 16, 2019, 1:38 AM

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like any other game it all just depends on the organization you join

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the larger community is not really a thing due to the small server sizes, it's all about the small communities that play together

sinful raft Dec 16, 2019, 1:40 AM

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That's neat, I enjoy that as well

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Any tips to find such organizations/communities?

half grotto Dec 16, 2019, 1:41 AM

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You can take a look at #634432662274048022

sinful raft Dec 16, 2019, 1:41 AM

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Rgr. Thanks for the answers, all

errant cradle Dec 16, 2019, 1:42 AM

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then make a post in #634420245972647945 once you do. if you get offers from orgs that aren't specifically for cargo hauling, leave it @sinful raft

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lots of orgs keep their eyes on that channel and they'll invite everyone

sinful raft Dec 16, 2019, 1:42 AM

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Gotcha. Thank you blobwave

dark bane Dec 16, 2019, 1:43 AM

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Another option is to meet just one person you get along with, and either join their org or start a new one

sinful raft Dec 16, 2019, 1:43 AM

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Naturally

half grotto Dec 16, 2019, 1:44 AM

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Also true. Finding people you get along with naturally is leagues better than joining the first group that leaves a hanger on your doorknob

wicked saddle Dec 16, 2019, 11:57 AM

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so I really like trucking in games, played 1000s of hours of elite dangerours jsut doing that

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really looking to do that in another game, can I do that in SC yet? without spending more than £50 in real life?

cedar spoke Dec 16, 2019, 11:59 AM

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@wicked saddle yep

wicked saddle Dec 16, 2019, 12:00 PM

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whats the progression hook like? or the game play loop? I have been looking around online but I am having a hard time coming across concrete info

granite meteor Dec 16, 2019, 12:01 PM

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Right now it's box delivery in an aurora, rent a freelancer and start doing commodity trading, buy a caterpillar and continue doing commodity trading

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It takes a long while to get from rented freelancers to buying a caterpillar

wicked saddle Dec 16, 2019, 12:02 PM

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thats all using ingame money?

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I keep sseeing things about pledging for ships that I dont really understand

cedar spoke Dec 16, 2019, 12:02 PM

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Yep, you could go hand mining for some decent starting money.

granite meteor Dec 16, 2019, 12:02 PM

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Yeah the aurora is your starting ship then everything else in in game

wicked saddle Dec 16, 2019, 12:02 PM

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nice

cedar spoke Dec 16, 2019, 12:03 PM

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Those ships are just to "support" the devs and if you want to get it quicker

granite meteor Dec 16, 2019, 12:03 PM

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You can buy ships with irl money, but it skips a lot of the progression

wicked saddle Dec 16, 2019, 12:03 PM

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I prefer to play the progression but I have a lot of free time

granite meteor Dec 16, 2019, 12:04 PM

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That being said there have been database wipes every quarterly patch, though that should stop, at least for credits, with the next patch

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Which is due before Christmas (probably )

wicked saddle Dec 16, 2019, 12:04 PM

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alphas going to alpha

granite meteor Dec 16, 2019, 12:04 PM

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Yeah pretty much

cedar spoke Dec 16, 2019, 12:04 PM

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id use this time to learn the some good tactics then apply it to 3.8 if we can.

granite meteor Dec 16, 2019, 12:05 PM

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^^^

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Gallog.co is the commonly used community commodity database, but it'll need to be updated again when the next patch goes live

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What ship do you have at this time?

wicked saddle Dec 16, 2019, 12:07 PM

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me? nothing haven't even started playing

granite meteor Dec 16, 2019, 12:08 PM

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http://gorefer.me/starcitizen/#button
Referral link here or ask a friend who plays sc for their referral code

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Using a referral gives an extra 5k uec and gives benefits to the person who's code you use, we're not allowed to give ours out here

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Uec is credits

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youtu.be/ru_c5NSL_Jk
And this is a mostly up to date new player tutorial, but it's about to be out of date with 3.8 when that drops
Also he uses an Avenger, but the aurora starting package is cheaper

wicked saddle Dec 16, 2019, 12:12 PM

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thanks for the info nathan

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been very helpful

granite meteor Dec 16, 2019, 12:12 PM

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And if you buy a mustang starter pack it temporarily comes with a loaner Aurora, but that will go away after they've fixed the mustang

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Happy to help out

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The #385107388501590029 channel also has a ton of really helpful links

rare quail Dec 16, 2019, 5:39 PM

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play with someone

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i have got a cutlass black

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hey

real sun Dec 16, 2019, 7:46 PM

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so i was just on my very first big traderun and lose all my money call Autolanding blows up my ship ?

median yacht Dec 16, 2019, 8:45 PM

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Such is life

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Don’t ever spend more than half of your credits on cargo

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Bugs have a tendency to kill you at random 😦

silent surge Dec 16, 2019, 9:53 PM

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Sorry very new to the game, and trying to make some early money by doing deliveries and selling cargo using the avenger while doing them, my question is how do you know what items can be sold where?

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just google

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?

magic sinew Dec 16, 2019, 9:55 PM

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There are spreadsheets posted someplace

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Welcome to the SCam btw

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Enjoy yourself, and please dont touch the bugs

pallid nova Dec 16, 2019, 9:57 PM

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@silent surge Also there are pretty good tutorials on youtube... im new 2 and it helped me alot

rare mortar Dec 16, 2019, 10:09 PM

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general rule of thumb: bigger ship = better for trading. Run scrap from CRU-L5 to Port Ollisar. When you have enough cash, run Titanium from HDMS-Bezdek to Lorville CBD.

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And as was said before, NEVER spend more than half your credits on your cargo. You WILL eventually lose it all in a crash or bug or something.

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Also, smaller ships can exploit higher margin items like drugs, etc. Bigger ships (eg, caterpillar, maybe connie also) probably easier to just stick to scrap / titanium.

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And, get a 2nd monitor to watch tv shows or movies on while you're truckin'.

real sun Dec 16, 2019, 10:17 PM

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Thx for the precise tips, very welcome. yeah i learned the hard way today, doing bounties on my warden now but i really need a change of pace which is why i wanna do some trading

rare mortar Dec 16, 2019, 10:47 PM

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yar. imho, bounties are the best way to make some seed cash. a caterpillar can take a full load of scrap at 75k at 27% margin. once you hit 200k, you can switch to titanium. again, these are caterpillar numbers.

wheat carbon Dec 16, 2019, 10:58 PM

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Cutty good enough for cargo hauling?

wraith tree Dec 17, 2019, 12:36 AM

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@proven token https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/citizens/17397-This-Week-In-Star-Citizen

This Week in Star Citizen - Roberts Space Industries | Follow the development of Star Citizen and Squadron 42

Roberts Space Industries is the official go-to website for all news about Star Citizen and Squadron 42. It also hosts the online store for game items and merch, as well as all the community tools used by our fans.

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Thursday we learn about the mole

proven token Dec 17, 2019, 12:37 AM

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Yesss!

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Thanks Derc

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Whats your name in game anyway?

wraith tree Dec 17, 2019, 12:38 AM

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On Thursday, we’ll check out a new episode of Inside Star Citizen, digging(ha) into the upcoming ARGO Mole & updates to ship mining in Alpha 3.8. This will be the last ISC of the year, but you can expect the series to return in the new year with more behind-the-scenes action.

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derc

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Thinking of getting it capitalized

proven token Dec 17, 2019, 12:38 AM

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I'll add ya

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so when the mole comes out we can fly it

wraith tree Dec 17, 2019, 12:38 AM

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Cool

proven token Dec 17, 2019, 12:38 AM

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🙂

wraith tree Dec 17, 2019, 12:38 AM

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Thank you

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This name is my general space / sci-fi rp name

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I’m debating trading my prospector for the mole

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But then I can’t mine solo

proven token Dec 17, 2019, 12:40 AM

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yea... i guess you could switch seats right?

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I can't find you derc

wraith tree Dec 17, 2019, 12:40 AM

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We’ll see

proven token Dec 17, 2019, 12:40 AM

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i found ya

wraith tree Dec 17, 2019, 12:41 AM

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The profit potential has to be greater than three prospectors I think to

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I’ll add you later when I’m on, fighting a fun migraine and sinus infection

proven token Dec 17, 2019, 12:44 AM

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Yea maybe

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I'm KingArthur

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On 3.8 atm there are rich rocks a prospector can't get

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So a mole with 2 people might be ... er... more profitable?

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the % of ores are very high

wraith tree Dec 17, 2019, 12:46 AM

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There are bigger rockers or something?

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In my mind the prospector will be good for getting rare resources in small quantities while a Orion can chew up, filter, and refine basic stuff that can be sold in large quantities like aluminum

proven token Dec 17, 2019, 12:47 AM

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It just seems more rich

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I'm going to yela i'll share a few screen shots?

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1 sec

wraith tree Dec 17, 2019, 12:47 AM

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And the mole is kinda in between

proven token Dec 17, 2019, 12:48 AM

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Yea mole seems like it might be decent

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Multicrew though...

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You know how that goes

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📎 unknown.png

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fiurst rock i found

wraith tree Dec 17, 2019, 1:01 AM

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Damn

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Ok so 12% and what’s the 42.6?

proven token Dec 17, 2019, 1:04 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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Idk

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heres another rock

wraith tree Dec 17, 2019, 1:06 AM

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Not bad, and that’s before cracking right?

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That’s good money there

proven token Dec 17, 2019, 1:07 AM

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I cant pop it though

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im too weak in a prospector

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lol

wraith tree Dec 17, 2019, 1:07 AM

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I wonder if two prospectors could do it

proven token Dec 17, 2019, 1:09 AM

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I think they can

wraith tree Dec 17, 2019, 1:09 AM

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On a prospector related note, if the P needs vtol to land, shouldn’t the freelancer need it as well with how big and heavy it is? Especially in planets

proven token Dec 17, 2019, 1:09 AM

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The rocks on the planets seem very very "large" now

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like the prospector has a hartd time cracking them

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Space rocks seem easier / smaller

wraith tree Dec 17, 2019, 1:10 AM

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Hmm

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It will be interesting to see how the mole works

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What’s the expected crew size?

half grotto Dec 17, 2019, 1:10 AM

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3

proven token Dec 17, 2019, 1:11 AM

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📎 unknown.png

wraith tree Dec 17, 2019, 1:11 AM

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So pilot, a miner, where’s the third

proven token Dec 17, 2019, 1:13 AM

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another miner

wraith tree Dec 17, 2019, 1:14 AM

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In front or back?

proven token Dec 17, 2019, 1:15 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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there should be 3 in the back

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Front*

wraith tree Dec 17, 2019, 1:17 AM

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https://preview.redd.it/nm0lsgiyo2441.png?auto=webp&s=86f50fb920159f47824e97aa59ce4251b9837562

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Ok so one on the bottom and two up top

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So are the top two miner and the bottom is the pilot with a view where he can see the landing pad better?

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https://i.redd.it/cdtrfqzob8441.png

proven token Dec 17, 2019, 1:20 AM

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I guess yea

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Theres a lot the prospector has a tough time with now

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i will say

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but ore is richer

wraith tree Dec 17, 2019, 1:21 AM

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That’s gonna make seat switching a PIA

proven token Dec 17, 2019, 1:24 AM

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Yeap.

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I think it was intentional

wraith tree Dec 17, 2019, 1:24 AM

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I wonder why two miners

proven token Dec 17, 2019, 1:24 AM

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They stress multi crew is important

wraith tree Dec 17, 2019, 1:25 AM

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Oh!!!

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📎 image0.jpg

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The lasers are not on the collection arm

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So one cracks and the other vacuums

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Which explains the lasers in the above image

proven token Dec 17, 2019, 1:27 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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heres me not being picky at all

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as you can see inert material is very low

wraith tree Dec 17, 2019, 1:27 AM

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Damn

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Maybe I’ll hop on in a bit and we can try cracking a big one

proven token Dec 17, 2019, 1:28 AM

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idk if filtering is working tbh

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it might be filtering shit

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lol

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I could see a hauler with a prospector doing well

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just mining and shipping ti back

wraith tree Dec 17, 2019, 1:30 AM

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Wonder if unloading will come with the mole

proven token Dec 17, 2019, 1:30 AM

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i doubt it

wraith tree Dec 17, 2019, 1:30 AM

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Sooooo many little connecting strings are incomplete

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Like some ships have docking collars that are unusable

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You would think humans would standardized docking collars

proven token Dec 17, 2019, 1:32 AM

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yea

wraith tree Dec 17, 2019, 2:30 AM

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almost done installing ptu if you want to try using two prospectors

wraith tree Dec 17, 2019, 2:46 AM

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nm account not valid 🤷‍♂️

granite meteor Dec 17, 2019, 3:59 AM

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Did you copy account to ptu?

spring vale Dec 17, 2019, 6:41 AM

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@wraith tree It seems that they are working on standardizing the docking collars. All of the recent ships with one are using a rectangular docking collar that a person can walk through. The Hammerhead, Nautilus, 890, and I think there was a smaller example as well.

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Because vertical docking collars don't work all that well a lot of the time.

obsidian matrix Dec 17, 2019, 7:44 AM

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anyone found any good fps mining locations they are willing to share

proven token Dec 17, 2019, 7:49 AM

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Ichor go to investigative missions

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Or Kudre ore (closed) on daymar.

obsidian matrix Dec 17, 2019, 7:52 AM

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copy thank you

proven token Dec 17, 2019, 8:07 AM

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Have fun

sage dragon Dec 17, 2019, 4:57 PM

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can cargo hauling be done with a Avenger Titan? (noob here)

proven token Dec 17, 2019, 4:58 PM

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i wouldnt recommend it personally you might be able to do deliveries?

sage dragon Dec 17, 2019, 5:01 PM

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oh okie, are ships expensive? (with ingame currency, I know they are with real money)

latent pilot Dec 17, 2019, 5:02 PM

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So, can I get any opinions on whether or not I should drop the Cat in favor of the MOLE when it drops here in the next few weeks?

brittle cove Dec 17, 2019, 5:44 PM

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I now own a caterpillar pirate

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Moving on up eh

wheat carbon Dec 17, 2019, 5:47 PM

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perm?

unique cove Dec 17, 2019, 6:13 PM

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Titan will be good small hauler and Frontline supply ship, but right now there isn't enough margin to make money with the small cargo hold.

viral cape Dec 17, 2019, 6:27 PM

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@proven token was that screenshot you posted about "not being picky" in prospector from PTU or live?

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i have to be picky as hell on live to get that kind of haul

lean fog Dec 17, 2019, 6:40 PM

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anyone willing to help with Pirate Swarm this evening so I can get a Cat?

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like 8 EST maybe?

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I'm playing on a really bad pc with an avenger titan, so I'd need to be hard carried 🙂

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no worries

proven token Dec 17, 2019, 9:37 PM

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@viral cape PTU

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Looks like they massively increased ORE values, but made the prospector laser half as effective.

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Also new mining heads that moght boost effectiveness

pure thunder Dec 17, 2019, 9:38 PM

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I hope they keep that, prospector doesn't feel very worth it atm

viral cape Dec 17, 2019, 9:53 PM

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prolly cuz the mole coming in 3.8

proven token Dec 17, 2019, 10:02 PM

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prospector dosnt feel worth it atm you are right

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i agree

wraith tree Dec 17, 2019, 10:38 PM

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😦 and I just got my prospector

pure thunder Dec 17, 2019, 10:50 PM

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I mean it's fun but it doesn't feel like you have a good moneymaker compared to just questing in an avenger or something

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I'm not well-versed in all the cool mining spots but I don't make much going around on my prospector

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pun intended

wraith tree Dec 17, 2019, 11:06 PM

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The quests seem odd to me for some reason

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I’m curious to see if they change when the economy is added for price fluctuations and resource demand

pure thunder Dec 17, 2019, 11:10 PM

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I would assume that ore prices will depend on location, supply and demand

little linden Dec 18, 2019, 1:35 AM

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ptu patch causing crashes?

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disconnects rather

rare mortar Dec 18, 2019, 1:43 AM

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yeah, not really stable right now.

sinful raft Dec 18, 2019, 1:43 AM

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I'm considering buying the 315p for cargo/exploration purposes. I heard its QT drive is one of the worst; is it upgradeable? Should I bother?

rare mortar Dec 18, 2019, 1:45 AM

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Theoretically upgradeable. But probably don't make any decisions on 3.7 or 3.8 stats, because they're all subject to change.

sinful raft Dec 18, 2019, 1:45 AM

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Yeah, that's one factor I'm also considering

rare mortar Dec 18, 2019, 1:45 AM

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I think there was a spreadsheet out that said that there would be "military" quantum drives that you can buy for your ships, what were faster. Not sure if it's in 3.8 or not though.

sinful raft Dec 18, 2019, 1:46 AM

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Thanks; I'll see what future brings

rare mortar Dec 18, 2019, 1:47 AM

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Mostly, just remember that a pledge is to support SC development, AND also if you don't feel like earning in-game currency to buy new ships. In 3.8, the quarterly wipe should be done with, and you'll be able to keep your money and ships through 3.9, 4.0, etc.

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Also note, CIG reserves the right to wipe at any time, of course.

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IMHO, if you don't feel like spending, just wait for 3.8 and try making money in the early 3.8 days. You should be able to easily make enough to at least rent a ship for a day to see if you actually like it.

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(using in-game currency)

sinful raft Dec 18, 2019, 1:52 AM

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Thanks. knowing me, I'll probably just spend the extra bucks to get it :)

molten ridge Dec 18, 2019, 4:42 AM

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Im having a hard time building up enough cash to make cargo hauling worth it, im looking to have 15-20k credits, ideas?

granite meteor Dec 18, 2019, 4:51 AM

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Box deliveries out of Levski

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Bounty hunting around Levski

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Hand mining for Hadanite

molten ridge Dec 18, 2019, 4:56 AM

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why levski?

granite meteor Dec 18, 2019, 5:00 AM

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Idk they have better paying missions

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Their box missions are like 7-9k each

brittle cove Dec 18, 2019, 5:21 AM

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mmm

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Cat runs man

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I love cat runs

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IT just feels good takingoff and landing

molten ridge Dec 18, 2019, 5:22 AM

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once i get working capital ill be able to make bank off of it too

brittle cove Dec 18, 2019, 5:24 AM

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yknow, if you have the right rout you can get the capital

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once you get 150K its gets a bit easier

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300K is where it gets good for the cat

molten ridge Dec 18, 2019, 5:27 AM

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yeah ive got 12k rn :{

brittle cove Dec 18, 2019, 5:27 AM

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ooh

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so you ahve a cat right

molten ridge Dec 18, 2019, 5:27 AM

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with the fancy pirate skin too

brittle cove Dec 18, 2019, 5:28 AM

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ever used a trading tool?

molten ridge Dec 18, 2019, 5:29 AM

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what do you mean, like a calculating website?

brittle cove Dec 18, 2019, 5:32 AM

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yes

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like gallog or versemate

molten ridge Dec 18, 2019, 5:56 AM

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yeah i have a inside crusader route from kamille

granite meteor Dec 18, 2019, 5:57 AM

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Scrap between an R&R and olisar is pretty fast money for the Cat

molten ridge Dec 18, 2019, 5:58 AM

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hmm good to know

granite meteor Dec 18, 2019, 5:58 AM

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Good to start that around 50k or so

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Before that, box deliveries out of Levski are probably faster money

molten ridge Dec 18, 2019, 5:59 AM

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exellent

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yeah I'm totally down for 7k a box run

granite meteor Dec 18, 2019, 6:00 AM

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Land in top lobby, load up every box mission they have, then go hit them all at once

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They go to daymar, yela, and Hurston iirc

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The qt isn't bad if you're flying a cat

molten ridge Dec 18, 2019, 6:01 AM

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bro its so fast in qt

rare mortar Dec 18, 2019, 7:18 AM

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full load of scrap into a cat should cost around 75k, and make you about 25k profit I think. so, do delivery missions until you get about 75k, and start running scrap. don't forget, do not spend more than half your funds on cargo.

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after you hit about 200k total funds, you can start running titanium from arial-bezdek or something to hurston CBD.

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And as you max out your titanium with room to spare, you can slowly start switching to laranite I think it's called. but at that point, even though you can make more profit per run, the margins are much lower. so if you lose your cargo due to a bug or crash or mistake or disconnect or something, then it will take you a lot longer to recover.

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aka, 5 runs of scrap or 5 runs of titanium can recover funds for those items. but larinite, with only a 10% margin, you're looking at 10 runs to recover your position.

granite meteor Dec 18, 2019, 7:20 AM

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^^
Always do half or less yeah, game is too unstable to risk it all on one trip

rare mortar Dec 18, 2019, 7:21 AM

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especially in the early days of 3.8, when it goes live. :-p you are nearly guaranteed to lose a ship or get disconnected at some point.

brittle cove Dec 18, 2019, 1:31 PM

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Heh

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I lost 162k that way

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Hurston noflyed me into a 890 like Yeet

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Boom

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All that precious cargo and my starfarer

silent surge Dec 18, 2019, 1:51 PM

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Whats the most reasonably priced decent cargo ship off of the pledge store?

limber kindle Dec 18, 2019, 1:51 PM

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Cutlass?

median yacht Dec 18, 2019, 1:52 PM

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^

silent surge Dec 18, 2019, 1:52 PM

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115$?

median yacht Dec 18, 2019, 1:52 PM

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You can rent ships ingame if you'd prefer.

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Can pick up a Freelancer or something.

silent surge Dec 18, 2019, 1:53 PM

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I was doing that, was just trying to find something that wasnt over 100$ on the pledge store but still kinda has a use

limber kindle Dec 18, 2019, 1:54 PM

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maybe the avenger titan

silent surge Dec 18, 2019, 1:54 PM

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how much is the freelancer to rent in game?

limber kindle Dec 18, 2019, 1:55 PM

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ig renting is very very expensive

silent surge Dec 18, 2019, 1:55 PM

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I have been running around with a rented black cutlass

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just at work atm and cant find the prices on google on for the rent store

median yacht Dec 18, 2019, 1:55 PM

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Its not that expensive to rent ingame.

limber kindle Dec 18, 2019, 1:55 PM

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TQLeWh0_8C0iuGAiw-VoeUOiokk879E8AaahsxTi9ls/edit#gid=813505022

Google Docs

Price of Ship Components & Ships & Trade | Star Citizen 3.7

Ship Weapons

Name,Size,DPS,Fire Rate,Olisar,Grim HEX,Levski,Lorville,ArcCorp,CRU L1,CRU L3,CRU L4,CRU L5,HUR L1,HUR L2,HUR L3,HUR L4,HUR L5,ARC L1
9-Series ,1,154,98,-,-,-,-,7 134,-,-,-,-,-,-,-,-,-,-
Attrition-1,1,184,330,-,-,-,3 230,-,-,-,-,-,-,-,-,-,-,-
Buzzsaw...

silent surge Dec 18, 2019, 1:56 PM

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sweet

median yacht Dec 18, 2019, 1:56 PM

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33k to rent a Freelancer for a day.

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Can easily make that back.

silent surge Dec 18, 2019, 1:56 PM

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yea, that works, and the kiosk for renting has the same ships no matter where you are?

median yacht Dec 18, 2019, 1:57 PM

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It differs between Lorville and Arccorp

silent surge Dec 18, 2019, 1:57 PM

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ohhhhhhhhh

median yacht Dec 18, 2019, 1:57 PM

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Not by much though.

silent surge Dec 18, 2019, 1:58 PM

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aight think, ima hit that freelancer up then, going to just try and save up in game money for a ship that I want, when I find out what ship that is lol

limber kindle Dec 18, 2019, 1:59 PM

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beware a wipe will be there soon with the 3.8

lean fog Dec 18, 2019, 3:30 PM

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you got few days/weeks before that live PU

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also if you rent a freelancer for 33k, make sure you have like 66k so you can actually purchase some goods

wraith tree Dec 18, 2019, 7:55 PM

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@proven token https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh9hJLt9aeA

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Star Citizen - ARGO Mole Full interior and exterior

==[Star Citizen]==

Thanks to TeoBarraultCIG for spawning me the new ARGO Mole Mining ship

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So from what I can tell, the pilot and some kind of operator are in the top, and the bottom is a manned turret for the fracture lasers

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So you would have to switch between three seats just to do any mining

median yacht Dec 18, 2019, 8:14 PM

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Guess I won't be getting a mole >.>

wraith tree Dec 18, 2019, 8:14 PM

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I think this is the first multi crew ship that does something

median yacht Dec 18, 2019, 8:14 PM

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But the people you bring along have no way of getting any profit from helping you xD

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Seems slightly redundant to bring it in now.

wraith tree Dec 18, 2019, 8:14 PM

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The others have turrets and stuff that help in a fight, but this mole actually seems to need 3 people to function at all

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Maybe the ore gets tagged with who the crew was so when it’s traded it automatically is split?

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We’ll find out, but that is a important mechanism

median yacht Dec 18, 2019, 8:16 PM

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According to the people who were mining alongside the dev earlier only the pilot could sell.

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Really cool looking ship too. Lots of movement and animation going on.

wraith tree Dec 18, 2019, 8:18 PM

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Sell sure, but maybe the money is split when the pilot sells?

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There needs to be some method that works for all the multi crew money making methods

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Maybe contracts that don’t have fixed values at the start but %s

median yacht Dec 18, 2019, 8:20 PM

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They've got the accounting thing for the Mobiglass on the roadmap, just seems weird to release a ship like the mole before thats in.

wraith tree Dec 18, 2019, 8:26 PM

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Especially when they’re not wiping auec anymore

silent surge Dec 18, 2019, 8:35 PM

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is there even really a beneficial reason to play with a group atm?

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besides just having the extra person to help defend

wraith tree Dec 18, 2019, 8:43 PM

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Not really

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But there hasn’t been a multi crew industry ships until the mole that works

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It’s kind of surprising that very early builds didn’t include a mail system where players could send money

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Most mmos have Something like that

proven token Dec 18, 2019, 8:45 PM

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jm;'

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Nice derc!

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I just got a 30k load with my prospector on the PTU

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🙂

wraith tree Dec 18, 2019, 8:45 PM

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Nice

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New mining head help?

proven token Dec 18, 2019, 8:45 PM

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If you get the 100k miner upgrade laser its very good

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VERY good

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Expands the green zone, dosnt jump around, real powerful

wraith tree Dec 18, 2019, 8:46 PM

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I’d hope

proven token Dec 18, 2019, 8:46 PM

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Probably what the mole base lasers will be like

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(hopefully)

wraith tree Dec 18, 2019, 8:46 PM

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Plus it looks like the mining heads have sub components slots

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I think the mole has size 2 mining heads

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Maybe the mole has one for laser and one for extracting?

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We’ll find out tomorrow

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The Orion probably has like size 6 or Something

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This begs a question though, with Argo being the industry ships company, the Caterpillar (irl) of SC, wouldn’t it make sense to change the Orion from RSI to Argo?

proven token Dec 18, 2019, 8:53 PM

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It would but its too late for that

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Gonna need an argo refining ship or somthing

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They do have one planned

wraith tree Dec 18, 2019, 8:53 PM

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Yeah

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The Orion is more mysterious then the BMM at this point

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And with the mole and prospector working and filling the first industrial roles, will they wait on the Orion to get the other ships working?

silent surge Dec 18, 2019, 8:55 PM

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I would just really like to see a way for a crew of people to make cargo runs and make money together off one load

wraith tree Dec 18, 2019, 8:56 PM

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Contacts could probably fill that role since multiple people can work to collect a kill bounty

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They just need to modify it

proven token Dec 18, 2019, 8:58 PM

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I want that spider miner

wraith tree Dec 18, 2019, 8:58 PM

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The vulture needs to be made and salvaging so then the reclaimer and vulture will work. Then the larger Hull ships which would make 3 industrialized ships that see multi crew and need escorts

proven token Dec 18, 2019, 8:58 PM

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that was teased a long time ago

wraith tree Dec 18, 2019, 8:59 PM

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What other industries?

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Carrack and Explorer ships exist

proven token Dec 18, 2019, 8:59 PM

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mining, salvage ...

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gas mining

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fuel

wraith tree Dec 18, 2019, 8:59 PM

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Medical

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Oh fuck fuel

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That means docking needs worked in

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Have they ever touched on how docking will work?

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Repair ships, those see not in game

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Two have been announced

median yacht Dec 18, 2019, 9:02 PM

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Ship to station docking is scheduled for 4.0 so.

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We shall see soon enough I guess >.>

wraith tree Dec 18, 2019, 9:02 PM

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Some ships have docking ports but they’re different shapes

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Freelancer has a round one, but 890 are square I think

median yacht Dec 18, 2019, 9:04 PM

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From what I can remember the majority of docking ports are round.

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Could be wrong though.

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I just only remember seeing round ones.

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890 has to be a special snowflake.

wraith tree Dec 18, 2019, 9:07 PM

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Ok Argo and starfarer are round so guess it’s standard

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I’ve wondered about stations and planets using a orbiting parking lot of a kind where a Drone or Argo docks with you then transports you to the surface or station

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Like what if the corporate or system government decided landing large ships near stations was too risky so they keep them away and shuttle people back and forth

magic sinew Dec 18, 2019, 9:10 PM

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I mean thats kinda what A18 does

wraith tree Dec 18, 2019, 9:10 PM

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Like the remote star port on microtech prevents ships from crashing into the city potentially

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I’ve never seen that happen at a18

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Large ships come and go

magic sinew Dec 18, 2019, 9:11 PM

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You park your ship and take the train to go places

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But parking away from the city is kinda new

wraith tree Dec 18, 2019, 9:12 PM

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Right, I was thinking like the ship would stay in orbit. Like an overly cautious policy that was put in place when a reclaimer lost an engine and took out 8 blocks like a tornado

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Just to mix things up

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Or have a planet that has everything under ground so you have to travel down a deep tunnel going straight down to where the landing pads are

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Kind of like in the 1313 trailer https://youtu.be/j3TZFZ1fHhA

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Star Wars 1313 ™ - Trailer HD 1080 !

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wraith tree Dec 18, 2019, 10:01 PM

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a planet that is constantly having rain and lightning storms that make it too dangerous for any pilot to handle requiring crews to take remote shuttles down would be neat

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like imagine some Argos with 4 size 2 shield generators to protect from the lightning and wind

hollow sedge Dec 18, 2019, 10:45 PM

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do u think its possible to use the vulture as cargo hauler like the cutlass?

wraith tree Dec 18, 2019, 11:00 PM

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@proven token no money transfers between players is really going to limit stuff

floral pelican Dec 18, 2019, 11:01 PM

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@hollow sedge No. The Vulture has 12 SCU, and mains as a scavenger ship. The Cutlass is a multi-role ship with 46(?) SCU.

hollow sedge Dec 18, 2019, 11:02 PM

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ye but is it possible to load cargo or other boxes in the back of it?

floral pelican Dec 18, 2019, 11:03 PM

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You technically have an interior so you could load crates manually, I guess.

hollow sedge Dec 18, 2019, 11:03 PM

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ok ty

proven token Dec 18, 2019, 11:04 PM

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I agree derc

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Maybe the partys will allow to split money between eachother

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when mining and salvaging

wraith tree Dec 18, 2019, 11:08 PM

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well hopefully service beacons will let you set a specific split based on job

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like the laser operator gets more because they could blow the ship up if they're not careful

proven token Dec 18, 2019, 11:11 PM

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yea i'd just do even split prolly

wraith tree Dec 18, 2019, 11:11 PM

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yeah

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If it would work CIG could setup a currency exchange site since they already let you buy UEC. Players would just ignore it though and come up with their own exchange rate and use ebay or make their own

proven token Dec 18, 2019, 11:13 PM

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is that what they are trying to avoid?

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the shadow market?

brittle cove Dec 18, 2019, 11:58 PM

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Accounting app?

median yacht Dec 19, 2019, 12:15 AM

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Coming in 3.9, will show transaction history, have the ability to transfer uec to other players

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Basically online banking.

wraith tree Dec 19, 2019, 12:17 AM

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@median yacht I thought they were not allowing that

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@proven token how do you control your laser throttle?

half grotto Dec 19, 2019, 12:19 AM

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Scroll wheel

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Mining guide in #385107388501590029

proven token Dec 19, 2019, 12:20 AM

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we need a mining channel

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🙂

wraith tree Dec 19, 2019, 12:23 AM

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I know how to, I'm asking preference

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iv got my secondary throttle control on my hotas connected to the laser throttle

proven token Dec 19, 2019, 12:24 AM

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I just got it on a mouse wheel

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If i had a high speed set of joysticks i'd use those

wraith tree Dec 19, 2019, 12:26 AM

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i'm thinking of connecting one of my old powermates up and using its mouse scroll capability to control the throttle

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https://static.bhphoto.com/images/images500x500/1233153629_535141.jpg

proven token Dec 19, 2019, 12:45 AM

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No word on filtering abilities for 3.8 + mole / prospector right?

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Cool idea derc

wraith tree Dec 19, 2019, 1:00 AM

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ill let you know if it works

proven token Dec 19, 2019, 1:02 AM

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My prospector dosnt seem to want to spawn anymore

wraith tree Dec 19, 2019, 1:04 AM

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in ptu?

proven token Dec 19, 2019, 1:05 AM

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yea

wraith tree Dec 19, 2019, 1:06 AM

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maybe the latest ptu changes broke the prospector object in the code?

proven token Dec 19, 2019, 1:07 AM

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Yea the waypoint just disapears in like 2 seconds

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when its like "ship on C02" or what ever

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you turn around and you see it despawn

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idk

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I might have broken the ship or somthing

wraith tree Dec 19, 2019, 1:33 AM

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ok so it works

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but its seeeensative

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a full spin only gets like 0.10+ on the throttle

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trying to figure out if I can edit that to be more

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SC doesn't have a mining throttle sensitivity setting

proven token Dec 19, 2019, 3:32 AM

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Oh

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Huh

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maybe in the future

wraith tree Dec 19, 2019, 6:30 AM

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It’s designed for audio engineers so I get the small increments

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Or for controlling your volume or scrolling pages. Just odd that SC interprets it so different

wraith tree Dec 19, 2019, 3:26 PM

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I could check

wraith tree Dec 19, 2019, 7:52 PM

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Any Mole news?

twin tapir Dec 19, 2019, 8:14 PM

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https://www.livescience.com/mars-insight-mole-digging-again-quakes.html

livescience.com

NASA's Martian Mole Is Digging Again

wraith tree Dec 19, 2019, 8:24 PM

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Ugh mining is gonna take forever with that little shovel head

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@proven token https://twitter.com/RobertsSpaceInd/status/1207755125197955072

Star Citizen (@RobertsSpaceInd)

Our final show of 2019 takes a peek at the new ARGO MOLE, dig into ship-based mining improvements, and look back on (almost) everything we've learned this year. 🚀 #StarCitizen

Watch now: https://t.co/TwO7vIaQbn

proven token Dec 19, 2019, 8:42 PM

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Moley

wraith tree Dec 19, 2019, 8:43 PM

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Not on the store yet

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I’m trying to figure out which industry ships I want, and how to get more lti ships for upgrading

median yacht Dec 19, 2019, 8:48 PM

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I really want the mole because of how awesome it looks. I just know it’s going to be entirely impractical

proven token Dec 19, 2019, 8:53 PM

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Man all I'm seeing is 2 extra miners that really don't need to exist

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and lost profits

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lol

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or maybe not lost profits but split* profits

median yacht Dec 19, 2019, 8:54 PM

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Mmhm

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It’s so much nicer looking than the prospector too 😦

proven token Dec 19, 2019, 8:55 PM

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Its double capacity, so its "profit" will basicly be the same as one prospector

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But I feel like the seperation between miner and driver makes it hard to do things sometimes

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like you can't get a good angle on somthing

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Or you need to move and one guy can't see his target now

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Or is mining currently, and if you move he loses his laser aim

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Unless you can filter out inert ore and it dosn't matter as much

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RIght now you don't want to collect everything because its a waste of space

median yacht Dec 19, 2019, 8:57 PM

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I wonder how they’re gonna price it.

wraith tree Dec 19, 2019, 8:57 PM

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I’m hoping it makes up for it by accessing more, just more ore

median yacht Dec 19, 2019, 8:58 PM

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I know the general area but whether or not it’ll be the top end of what we’re estimating

wraith tree Dec 19, 2019, 8:58 PM

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If Argo comes out with a dedicated refinery I’ll probably buy it

proven token Dec 19, 2019, 8:58 PM

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you can ugprade your prospector to handle all rocks atm

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with a 100k cost space laser they have

wraith tree Dec 19, 2019, 8:58 PM

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Especially if it has a landing pad or way to load freight ships and unload moles and prospectors

proven token Dec 19, 2019, 8:59 PM

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probably going tobe able to collect those bags

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once released

wraith tree Dec 19, 2019, 8:59 PM

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Yeah, something

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We all don’t know what the rear hatch is for

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Maybe a later upgrade slot for filters and stuff?

half grotto Dec 19, 2019, 9:00 PM

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Rear hatch thingy is related to FPS mining iirc

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Non functional currently ofc

proven token Dec 19, 2019, 9:01 PM

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just need that damn filter

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Aparently they will have underground ore pockets at some point too

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So it might be related to that

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Park, get out, control the "boreing procedure"

wraith tree Dec 19, 2019, 9:02 PM

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https://i.redd.it/qbreb4psfrx11.jpg

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If you look up underneath there are two empty socket looking things

proven token Dec 19, 2019, 9:03 PM

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Ah yea, maybe it lands and can deploy hand mining tools?

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like strong ones?

white cairn Dec 19, 2019, 9:03 PM

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That’s a poop chute

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It very likely drops materials

wraith tree Dec 19, 2019, 9:05 PM

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It’s so weird

proven token Dec 19, 2019, 9:05 PM

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well adding filtering would make mining easier / more profitable and would probably offset the fact that you need to get crew that knows what they are doing to actually mine

wraith tree Dec 19, 2019, 9:05 PM

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It doesn’t look chute like as much as a display panel or tray

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No tractor beam tube like it would have for storing hand gems

proven token Dec 19, 2019, 9:06 PM

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I wish CGI would stop hiding plans for the prospector / mining in general

wraith tree Dec 19, 2019, 9:08 PM

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It would be nice if a dev on the right would jump in to answer questions but of course that would create problems for them

proven token Dec 19, 2019, 9:09 PM

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i guess

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I feel like the mining crowd wouldn't be as vicious as the PVP / combat crowd on answers

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but look at the carrack and how that went

solemn cradle Dec 19, 2019, 9:11 PM

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@wraith tree cig, confirmed that's a filtered material chute.

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all the inert material and junk you don't want come out there.

wraith tree Dec 19, 2019, 9:13 PM

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That comes out the top

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That chute can only be opened but getting out

solemn cradle Dec 19, 2019, 9:14 PM

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devs have said that's what that open bit in the rear is for in one of the questions a few months ago XD

wraith tree Dec 19, 2019, 9:15 PM

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📎 image0.jpg

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The need to make to their minds

solemn cradle Dec 19, 2019, 9:33 PM

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hmmm.

wraith tree Dec 19, 2019, 10:15 PM

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Ok so there are three mining seats and the top area is for two pilots or something

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Totally called that wrong

solemn cradle Dec 19, 2019, 10:17 PM

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yep, they said more that once that the mole wouldn't have lasers controled by seats XD

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it's a multicrew ship, you'll need a group to use it XD

wraith tree Dec 19, 2019, 10:22 PM

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I thought that there was a laser operator and extractor chairs at the top and the pilot below them

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Didn’t realize there was side miners

proven token Dec 20, 2019, 2:13 AM

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I'm wondering if filtering will be like, a toggle, or a mini game

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If you find that rock thats like 1% laranite it might be worth it just eating it with 3 people if you can filter out that 99% inert easy

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with 3 people you could make short work of it

steady widget Dec 20, 2019, 3:16 AM

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Maybe a refinery component with quality?

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Or filtering component

proven token Dec 20, 2019, 3:17 AM

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definately need some sort of filter

steady widget Dec 20, 2019, 3:18 AM

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You could have low tier filters with only 60-70% filtering and high grade doing like 95%+

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I guess we'll see in future patches

proven token Dec 20, 2019, 3:18 AM

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Coordination with 2, 3 or 4 people needs to make it like, easier.

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I agree bomb

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It should be a like upgrade

solemn cradle Dec 20, 2019, 6:44 AM

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I think the side turrets on the mole are exposed to vacuum.

rare mortar Dec 20, 2019, 7:32 AM

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Oi. There should be a way for freighters to haul away ore that miners mine. Like having a Caterpillar standing by, and when something gets mined the mining ships eject it out into space, and the Caterpillar's two tractor beams suck it into its own cargo hold.

solemn cradle Dec 20, 2019, 7:51 AM

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seems thaat feature is not in game yet

hollow sedge Dec 20, 2019, 7:54 AM

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We need transfer of Cargo/items/money, tractor beams and looting stuff from corpses and killed ships to bad

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maybe they want to wait with that after Prisons are in 🙂

solemn cradle Dec 20, 2019, 7:55 AM

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actually I think it's ship dockinng thaat's needed

hollow sedge Dec 20, 2019, 7:56 AM

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I saw some sketches where the Prospector can dump inert materials out on the back is that still the plan or have they dumped that and only refinery ship can do it now?

solemn cradle Dec 20, 2019, 7:56 AM

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sense the feature is literally the detachiing of cargo pods to be loaded in.

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yes

hollow sedge Dec 20, 2019, 7:57 AM

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yes what?

solemn cradle Dec 20, 2019, 7:58 AM

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yes the prrospecter will still filter stuff out, eventually.

floral pelican Dec 20, 2019, 8:34 AM

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I mean, the point of refiner ships is to use that mineral. How are you going to get it if you arent near a port to buy that mineral itself? #ShipDocking

hollow sedge Dec 20, 2019, 8:46 AM

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How do you dock to the saddlebags of a Prospector?
They would probably need to pick those up. Tractor beam might be easier to do than a mechanic arm.

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But yes we need cargo exchange with docked ships

floral pelican Dec 20, 2019, 9:03 AM

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You wouldnt dock with saddlebags. You'd have a docking clamp between ship airlocks, thus allowing the artificial transfer of cargo between ships.

proven token Dec 20, 2019, 9:42 AM

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Yea the saddle bags are going to be universal

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Maybe not the orion though...

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Too big

solemn cradle Dec 20, 2019, 10:10 AM

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the saddlebags float in sace, so they get dropped and then trractored to the other shi, but needs docking to detach the bags.

unique cove Dec 20, 2019, 4:59 PM

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Yea, they made a point about those bags being able to detach when they get full and being loaded as cargo

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It's why the mole has the same ones I assume, and I also figure the refinery or refinery ships would have ports those attach to

wraith tree Dec 20, 2019, 6:34 PM

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and perhaps an arm to pluck them off?

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like the ship is held in place by tractor beams and the arm removes them or another beam removes them

hollow sedge Dec 20, 2019, 7:01 PM

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is there any cargo ship with a hangar big enough for a vulture?

wraith tree Dec 20, 2019, 7:14 PM

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a vulture is big

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https://i.redd.it/kuyd331l8j711.jpg

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larger than a cuttlass

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maybe a BMM depending on how loading works, the larger cargo ships like the HULL series carry everything outside

simple river Dec 20, 2019, 7:59 PM

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I'm sketching so so so hard each time I spend all my money on another load of cargo lol wish u could insure it

granite meteor Dec 20, 2019, 8:05 PM

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Do half loads

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Game is way too unreliable to put all your money on the line

simple river Dec 20, 2019, 8:16 PM

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@granite meteor haha ya that's true definitely smarter way to do it. I have the misc free lancer I'm using by renting it got any advice for making more money then hailing from daymar distilled water to port Oliver?

granite meteor Dec 20, 2019, 8:25 PM

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You can check gallog.co for commodity data and use it to build your own routes

lean fog Dec 20, 2019, 8:29 PM

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diamond from tram and Mayers to Port Olisar

wraith tree Dec 20, 2019, 8:34 PM

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And when quanta comes that’s all gonna change to

remote lagoon Dec 20, 2019, 8:58 PM

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Pad rammers and lurkers outside the safezone are so infuriating

wraith tree Dec 20, 2019, 9:03 PM

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I was rewatching the old Freelancer commercial and noticed something, The engines are supposed to gimbal for landing and for maneuvers like roll. https://gifs.com/gif/star-citizen-misc-freelancer-commercial-landing-p8nRZN

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granite meteor Dec 20, 2019, 9:08 PM

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Yeah but how would it land on those

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d:

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Idk if they're planning to add vtol functionality back to them

wraith tree Dec 20, 2019, 9:13 PM

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I was thinkingmake the wing part fixed to the hull and the engines stay hooked to the circular connector

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maybe change the engines to the ball engines that MISC got from the Xi'an for the Reliant

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but bigger ones

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the thing is it also used that rotation to help it roll

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so it wasn't completely dependent on the maneuvering thrusters to roll.

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https://i.redd.it/b4crok60jb121.jpg

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the wing thingies could be handled differently

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its just weird a smaller ship like the Prospector would VTOL for landing and the heavier freight freelancers wouldn't

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the Freelancer is my personal favorite

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so I want it to be perfect

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the Cat should also get some kind of landing engines

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the early endeavor concepts also clearly had the Xi'an engine design language https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/011/413/191/large/eddie-del-rio-aaaaaendeavor-iteration-02.jpg

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PS: If any CIG artists watch this, I'd love to talk about ship concept art, I find it absolutely fascinating

granite meteor Dec 20, 2019, 9:25 PM

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The cutlass engines also used to be spinny

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It was pretty silly in game though

wraith tree Dec 20, 2019, 9:25 PM

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I thought the cutlass still had that

granite meteor Dec 20, 2019, 9:25 PM

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It has vtol now

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For a while they were locked

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But check out old cutlass vids

wraith tree Dec 20, 2019, 9:26 PM

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I mean it makes sense for the engines to help during things like Roll

granite meteor Dec 20, 2019, 9:26 PM

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They just flop around all the time

wraith tree Dec 20, 2019, 9:26 PM

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why wouldn't you use the extra thrust vectoring to change ship orientation?

granite meteor Dec 20, 2019, 9:26 PM

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Delay mostly

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You start rotating at mav speed and part way through the full thruster kicks in and knocks you way off course then you need to compensate and the same thing happens in the other direction

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But I think there should still be a manual way to set it, if for example you need more retro thrust

wraith tree Dec 20, 2019, 9:31 PM

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sure

simple river Dec 20, 2019, 9:32 PM

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@vivid sleet thanx for sharing your route! Will help me so much

wraith tree Dec 20, 2019, 9:32 PM

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Im just imagining that at some point payload weight is going to become an important factor and problem for ships trying to land on planets so being able to vtol to slow down is going to be important

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like a HULL will never do a planet landing with a payload just because of the mass, drag, gravity

simple river Dec 20, 2019, 9:33 PM

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Also just in general would there be any interest in making a discord server for cargo haulers and then we haul cargo together protecting each other? Just casual like not like a hardcore group or anything

wraith tree Dec 20, 2019, 9:34 PM

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like maybe a future cargo route will be using smaller freight ships to help unload HULL ships to the surface

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so a lot of little short runs but doing it many many times

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like a delivery mission but with many steps

simple river Dec 20, 2019, 9:35 PM

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That'd be kinda cool

wraith tree Dec 20, 2019, 9:39 PM

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because if a HULL E is moving resources that a factory needs then it will have to get from orbit to the factory

unique cove Dec 20, 2019, 9:41 PM

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The idea they gave was hull a and b would take cargo from d and e in orbit to planetside, and the little mpv too

wraith tree Dec 20, 2019, 9:46 PM

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I can see the MPV

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but those smaller hulls seem so damn frail when extended for cargo

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ah

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part of me wants a Hull E

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but that would require getting a lot of people together as an escort

granite meteor Dec 20, 2019, 10:06 PM

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The Argo cargo isn't very much cargo iirc

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But yeah hull B would be great for that role

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Or C2

wraith tree Dec 20, 2019, 10:07 PM

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I’m a mining guy if your org needs more

granite meteor Dec 20, 2019, 10:08 PM

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Yeah fair enough

wraith tree Dec 20, 2019, 10:08 PM

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Its going to be fun seeing how quanta effect demand

solemn cradle Dec 20, 2019, 10:15 PM

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I'm startiing to wonder if even cig is starting to consiter giving the mpuv a q drive, consitering it's now suppoosed to also haul away the spoils of the mole, according to this months jumpp point

granite meteor Dec 20, 2019, 10:19 PM

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Hmm, yeah it really can't do that atm

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Unless they're looking to build a big Argo cargo ship that carries MPUVs

solemn cradle Dec 20, 2019, 10:35 PM

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I mean, consitering the cap ships have mpuv hhangers that seemed like nothing else would go in there(II think they havee docking clamps tto allow dropping the ship out of underside hangers) I think they could create a ship designed just to carry mpvu's docking to the underside.

crimson badge Dec 20, 2019, 10:40 PM

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Anybody know what ship Carrack owners are given to fly in-game currently?

granite meteor Dec 20, 2019, 10:55 PM

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Constellation Aquila

solemn lodge Dec 20, 2019, 11:16 PM

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I want to buy the carrack already 😦 I just missed it

wraith tree Dec 20, 2019, 11:17 PM

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why not the Corsair

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it does the wing thing like the imperial transport which makes it superior to the carrack

granite meteor Dec 20, 2019, 11:25 PM

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The wing thing is pretty snazzy tbh

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Carrack was 500 at the sale
2048 exploration pack is 695 and contains
Carrack, Terrapin, Freelancer DUR, Cyclone, Dragonfly Black, all LTI
Star Citizen Game package, s42, and 20k UEC

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So depending on your situation that might be a better deal @solemn lodge

heady kernel Dec 21, 2019, 12:25 AM

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what is the new high profit run, since WIDOW is basically useless as you cant sell it to Levski anymore

wraith tree Dec 21, 2019, 12:50 AM

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https://v.redd.it/3xj5pgg4jt541

HULL-C Loading up

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unique cove Dec 21, 2019, 1:13 AM

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Niet, must be loaded 1 container at a time by a team of srvs working in tandem

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I wonder how they are going to let us choose where cargo goes in a hold. Bc if you have a rover or something in the hold, you obviously don't have full cargo capacity. Say I want to take my cutty to a planet to mine, with a rover(or the suggested small wheeled miner vehicle) in the back, I can't just auto fill the hold with 1scu containers bc it would block my vehicle

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Grabby hands was the old thing mentioned in like 2015 but I haven't seen anything since

wraith tree Dec 21, 2019, 1:33 AM

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Maybe reserve cargo slots

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So they can’t be used and that’s where the bike is designated to go

remote lagoon Dec 21, 2019, 2:40 AM

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@granite meteor do you have a link for the 2048 exploration pack?

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or is that a Was

granite meteor Dec 21, 2019, 2:41 AM

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It should still be up, it's a concierge pack but it's visible at 750 spent

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iirc

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and since it's 695 itself, as long as you have $55 more than you need, you could just buy a bunch of stuff that's already available until you hit 750, melt it all, then buy the pack with store credit

remote lagoon Dec 21, 2019, 2:43 AM

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oh interesting, so it's only really an option IF you've spent that much already

granite meteor Dec 21, 2019, 2:44 AM

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Pretty much yeah, the concierge packs are weird like that, I guess they don't want to scare off new backers with them, but if someone wants them they have to spend a lot to even see them

remote lagoon Dec 21, 2019, 2:44 AM

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well I'm 200 in

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what's another 500

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they should make it an option if you have a subscription at least tho

granite meteor Dec 21, 2019, 2:45 AM

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I've heard it's visible at 750 but I don't have 100% guarantee on that

remote lagoon Dec 21, 2019, 2:46 AM

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thanks for the info kind sir

granite meteor Dec 21, 2019, 2:46 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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This is a screenshot I found, afaik it's still up

remote lagoon Dec 21, 2019, 2:47 AM

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and when you add to cart thats when you get the option to trade in?

granite meteor Dec 21, 2019, 2:53 AM

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You'll want to melt before adding to cart, everything you buy has an exchange button on it, if you click that button, it tells you how much you get back and asks you to enter your password to confirm (there may be a 24hr delay between buying and exchanging) then you go through each undesired item to exchange for store credit,
at 750 total purchased you should be able to see the pack, afaik,
then you should be able to add pack to cart, and when it comes to paying there should be a Credits / Cupon button, you'll want to hit that

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One thing to note is that you can also ccu individual items in a pack, but you can only melt the whole thing at once for store credit

Like if you want an LTI Cutlass you could buy a Cyclone RN to Cutlass CCU, then apply it to the package to upgrade the dragonfly in it to a cutlass black, which will retain the LTI of the package

remote lagoon Dec 21, 2019, 2:56 AM

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that makes sense, I see the exchange option on the hangar now that I looked for it

granite meteor Dec 21, 2019, 2:56 AM

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Actually, if anything, ccu the cyclone, it's worth $65 but only like 25k in game
The Aurora MR is worth only $25 but almost 200k in game

remote lagoon Dec 21, 2019, 2:58 AM

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this is more information than I've found by googling for a while now, can't thank you enough

granite meteor Dec 21, 2019, 2:58 AM

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Happy to help out

crimson badge Dec 21, 2019, 3:01 AM

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what's the subscriber ship this month?

granite meteor Dec 21, 2019, 3:01 AM

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890J

crimson badge Dec 21, 2019, 3:07 AM

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there a port in crusader that can spawn it?

granite meteor Dec 21, 2019, 3:09 AM

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No, just Hurston and ArcCorp

crimson badge Dec 21, 2019, 3:49 AM

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any missions that can currently be run with the 890? since it can only land at two pads

granite meteor Dec 21, 2019, 3:55 AM

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It can land wherever there's land, but only do commodity trading at those two pads

wraith tree Dec 21, 2019, 5:12 AM

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https://youtu.be/fn7Lp56T78E

YouTube

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brittle cove Dec 21, 2019, 5:12 AM

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yay they fixed the cat lag

wraith tree Dec 21, 2019, 5:19 AM

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Is it worth upgrading a freelancer to a max?

twin tapir Dec 21, 2019, 5:32 AM

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Yes.

unique cove Dec 21, 2019, 5:33 AM

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Yra

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No real downfalls, tons more space

wraith tree Dec 21, 2019, 6:01 AM

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Yeah, I’m considering it

unique cove Dec 21, 2019, 6:27 AM

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Only issue with the max is the turret seat guide rails drop real low making it very difficult to get some vics in it, I've heard the devs said that was an accident and will be fixed in the furute though

wraith tree Dec 21, 2019, 6:43 AM

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I don’t have any vehicles so that’s fine

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I do wonder if the normal freelancer should be the max

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I’ve got a couple posts on the forums discussing changes to the freelancer

wraith tree Dec 21, 2019, 7:01 AM

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https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/65295/thread/should-the-freelancer-have-the-same-ball-engines-a

Spectrum

I was looking at the Reliant and realized it follows the Xi'an design language of ball shaped engines that can rotate for maneuvering and VTOL and it got to me thinking that perhaps the Freelancer...

wraith tree Dec 21, 2019, 3:05 PM

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This is how I imagined the freelancer life. https://youtu.be/76yRcaxtNN0

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granite meteor Dec 21, 2019, 3:54 PM

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That looks way comfier than the freelancer tbh

twin tapir Dec 21, 2019, 3:58 PM

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Freelancer interior will need a refresh. It lacks closets and gun racks, which will be needed.

granite meteor Dec 21, 2019, 3:59 PM

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It's very cold and uncomfortable to me
The farer's orange at least gives it some more warmth

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But it could go with some carpeted floor mats or something too

brittle cove Dec 21, 2019, 5:00 PM

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winnebago when

wraith tree Dec 21, 2019, 5:10 PM

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If the freelancer is like a pickup then we need the big horn addition with brown leather seats and stuff

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https://cars.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b3c669e2017c322c6e92970b-800wi

alpine fractal Dec 21, 2019, 5:32 PM

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Basically we need to be able to paint the interior of our ship is what I’m hearing

latent axle Dec 21, 2019, 5:48 PM

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Can u sell the small cargo boxes found in wreck sites?

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If so, how much are they?

solemn cradle Dec 21, 2019, 6:48 PM

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won't each shi beeable to be customized, evetually? a bit like how the 300 serriees was?

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they'd mmake so much money doing that rather than new ships, tbh XD

wraith tree Dec 21, 2019, 6:55 PM

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I’d hire a graffiti artist to give my ships one off custom looks

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Sell decals like steam sells tf2 hats

winter skiff Dec 21, 2019, 7:00 PM

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Yasss

unique cove Dec 21, 2019, 7:41 PM

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They said to some degree or another they will have customization

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I want to put my fish tank and all that on a desk in my cutty lol

bold lava Dec 21, 2019, 7:55 PM

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Fish Tank is currently a grey shape 😭

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and too big for a desk

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or too smol to climb inside for a dip 😭

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and no ladder

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cig y

warm violet Dec 21, 2019, 9:21 PM

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How the fuck am I supposed to do cargo when people can just pad ram me? No defense and they don't get banned. Fucking 10/10 gameplay

coral drum Dec 21, 2019, 9:54 PM

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Rather than disable weapons wonder if just disabling all ship to ship damage would be the better option

twin tapir Dec 21, 2019, 10:11 PM

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A disad of the current game having no death penalty.

wraith tree Dec 21, 2019, 11:41 PM

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@proven token did you get it?

granite meteor Dec 22, 2019, 12:14 AM

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Olisar is awful for rammers

wraith tree Dec 22, 2019, 12:40 AM

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Need the prison system ASAP

median yacht Dec 22, 2019, 12:52 AM

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Ive never experienced pad ramming.

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Must be super lucky >.>

hallow zephyr Dec 22, 2019, 1:34 AM

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Yo where is the best route to run cargo