guys seriously
#industrial-professions
floral pelican
half grotto
static yoke
F
wispy bluff
Hey, I hate walls of text myself but I’m asking for literally any help here, a very good friend and orgmate of mine was diagnosed with a pretty shitty disease and needs to pay his health insurance. I can’t personally afford to help him monetarily, so I’m spreading this for awareness and would really appreciate it if you could at least spread it as well. We have this post in spectrum: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/50182/thread/alcatrazskywalker-his-life-is-in-danger
Please share this. As a side note, before he was diagnosed he used to 3D print Star Citizen related stuff, and would be willing to sell some to afford his insurance. We're still trying to find out if it's ok to put up the 3D printed stuff up in Ebay or something.
Please DM me if you think you can help in any way.
teal mountain
@bitter glade
bitter glade
holy fug
haughty oracle
Fug can be holy,wew @bitter glade
bitter glade
wew.
finite condor
serene egret
No
tribal haven
Cmon guys focus
dark minnow
Cherie Heidberg's house?
tribal haven
Xd
The big bang theory set getting disassembled because the TV show just, finished.
half grotto
I notice a lack of accelerants and ignition sources
tribal haven
Sheldon cooper approves
half grotto
In that case I retract my statement
potent plaza
braking news, anthem decides there old way of releasing games no longer works! "well first of all when people sign up to get news about the game and you send them nothing thats a good way to not get buyers to start
second when you start banning players and streamers cause they give bad PR about it thats a huge second way
thorn crane
nova ember
Is anything better than Chipotle?
last flame
Yes. Lots.
errant cradle
@nova ember pei wei, sesame chicken with fried rice
drowsy jackal
if anyone is a web developer pls tell me
last flame
Why not go search for a web development Discord or subreddit to have your question answered?
brave ruin
bitter glade
wew
restive kite
Lol how is that possible
ornate zealot
theres a bot that plays .midi files in game using the console
magic sinew
why
midnight rampart
altered carbon ||when she uses that big dude with the tattoos for her grandma to come back was some of the best shit, watching him act and sound like an old hispanic grandma||
hollow sedge
fuck , because of you i need to play this mordhau
dapper junco
Wtf is this channel lmao
Person has uploaded several times a week sinse 2009 with like 200 views
long citrus
@white cairn ?
white cairn
its a serious channel
But uh
I don't think its warnable
its just a misleading channel name
dapper junco
tired lynx
What are your all time favourite ablums alds? Any genre.
Just ping me with your suggestions.
jade helm
Are you asking anyone or a specific person @tired lynx
tired lynx
Anyone.
jade helm
@tired lynx The Cure - Disintegration
Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures
The Olivia Tremor Control - Black Foliage: Animation Music Volume One
Car Seat Headrest - Twin Fantasy
Nine Inch Nails - The Fragile
The Smiths - Hateful of Hollow
Those are a couple of mine
tired lynx
Thanks fam.
tired lynx
Disintegration is just my jam so far.
tired lynx
Boy you sure have a refined taste for music @jade helm
jade helm
Thanks! @tired lynx Yeah I’m mainly into alt rock; that’s my shit. I listen to everything but those are most of my fav albums; aside from The Fragile.
zealous kindle
@magic sinew Thanks. Lets me know I'm still sane.
magic sinew
@zealous kindle
magic sinew
Im sorry, was that a peasant joke Im too rich to understand?
magic sinew
For you Danes out there, heres the latest R6S operator:
https://youtu.be/zoRWqiIjUR0
Always thought the Frogmen were a bit freaky
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/301048490417586184/578305562178224139/unknown.png
visual cradle
looks like a heavy metal band indie release cover
the heavy metal band is from milwauke e but sounds likea cross between old slipknot and swedish noisecore
magic sinew
OK, not a bad description
long cloak
static yoke
truth
spring vale
Indeed. Having animated reactions is really nice.
plush dock
these are basically animated jpegs
magic sinew
Then start memeing more
midnight rampart
nitro is more of a scam than starcitizen.
errant cradle
We help out discord, and they keep shoving shitty ToS rules down our throats
And they won’t have any competition for the foreseeable future, just like twitch
supple niche
Nitro =/= star citizen
spring vale
non-sc discussions
brazen summit
am hanpy
i got a reddit top comment today
AND my crush acknowledged my existence by giving me the have a nice weekend
spring vale
Now get a post to the front page.
brazen summit
i need a good askreddit question
spring vale
A good TIL post can do it too.
That's how I pulled it off years back.
Especially revelation ones like "TIL the Berlin Wall has been down longer than it was up.".
half grotto
/r/gatekeeping
rough plume
Purge the unclean
zealous kindle
Do I sense heresy?
jolly jetty
Luckily @hollow sedge you are not installed in my life.
tribal haven
oof
rough plume
@hollow sedge Only in death does Duty end
restive kite
Lies and Slander, even in death your duty to the god emperor doesn't end
Worship me as your god emperor
jolly jetty
@hollow sedge "file not found" :)
tribal haven
Big oof
long citrus
@haughty badger no memes here
This chat is for serious, off-topic discussion. As a sister channel to #star-citizen, all the same rules about memes, shitpost, etc are to be obeyed. This is not a meme channel.
haughty badger
Well. Seriously off topic is really misleading as title. It sounds more about something that is... "seriously off topic", indeed. Not serious.
errant cradle
I agree 
magic sinew
@unique ridge Petition to change channel name to "serious-off-topic"
haughty badger
And technically speaking mine was not a meme. It was just an image with my comment on it... Like a lot of other images posted here. But ok. I'll just refrain from posting here, lol.
I'm sorry if I hurt feelings of members of the flat Earth Society...
errant cradle
@haughty badger my dude you're fine, you got your point across and it was dealt with, no need to get passive aggressive on us just because there was a misunderstanding
white cairn
haughty badger
I'm not passive aggressive. Not at all. Was just explaining my point. And since I'm usually forced being serious all the day at work I just prefer to post in other channels of this discord server where I can post my humorous things.
errant cradle
I'm sorry if I hurt feelings of members of the flat Earth Society...
Yeah, was intended as a joke. Sad it was not understood.
magic sinew
Generally, any serious channel is meant for serious topics, and memes go either in #shipposting or #off-topic-not-sc and most of time, its in #off-topic-not-sc
errant cradle
Not making it better, you're just reiterating what was already said
It was actually easy to misunderstand the channel from the name alone
white cairn
“Serious sidechat”
errant cradle
this channel was a mistake
magic sinew
errant cradle
converted #sidechat to #sc-screenshots, and moved sidechat over to #569990438132645888
haughty badger
Well I didn't wanted to raise all this discussion. Just wanted to introduce with a funny image the serious topic of flat Earthers...
It's perfectly ok the name. Now we all know the purpose we can stick to it whatever name the channel has... At least for what concerns me
spring vale
Yep. It's a time sink designing ships.
Here's the "smaller" ship I built.
And here's the capital ship I built that I ended up hating.
idle cloak
I'm thinking about getting it with a friend, or a few friends.
would you recommend it?
we really dig pulsar: lost colony, seems right up our ally.
spring vale
Yeah, it's a good way to lose a week or 5.
idle cloak
lol
spring vale
Depends on how you play it.
Keep in mind it's still in early access so there are still various bugs and rather sudden stops in certain areas. But it's still pretty fun to poke at now and then. I might check it out again since it's been about 6 months since the last time I played through.
idle cloak
looks like a really small community, but that it's got a decent development team and is smooth around it's edges. from what I can tell.
no game is perfect unfortunately.
really wish we could all play star citizen, but it's just not there yet.
spring vale
Also, they have a discord where the devs are super active. Like I had a bug report and they managed to find the cause within a few hours.
idle cloak
wow that's great.
spring vale
Oh yeah, and if you're looking at getting into building your own ships, take a look at the channel EpikTetus, he did some guides on building ships in ISR.
idle cloak
thanks for the tip.
I feel like the devs on interstellar rift and stationeers should team up.
interstellareers.
spring vale
They're extremely different games if I'm thinking of the right game.
peak narwhal
tribal haven
Sometimes to Deal with the Difficulty of Being Alive, I Need to Believe There Is a Possibility That Life Is Not Real.
hollow sedge
why my pp hard
jolly jetty
@hollow sedge shit happens
hollow sedge
lol
wispy bluff
Oooofff 👌
tribal haven
They have said there won't be any playable version of the game at e3
half grotto
SATA?
jolly jetty
^^ this
thorn ridge
cedar dawn
anyone buying ships with BTC?
harsh flax
Possibly, but Grey Market discussions are frowned upon here
cedar dawn
oh no just use a bitpay card or something
Ive considered doing grey market transactions but only in aUEC transfers
for impatient people etc
floral pelican
Big el oh el.
We're all lost to gaming addiction and need intervention. Videogames make us violent.
floral pelican
I dont agree with that. I just think WHO isn't staying in their lane, and this has come out through political influence and no actual concern. It says that anyone who values games over outside life has this disease. Thats the most blanket ass nonsense I've ever seen. That applies to anyone who has a phone.
magic sinew
I think we are blowing it out of proportion because its a meme
But there are definitely people who do need help
ie people who spend 50 hours in one game without sleeping, eating, bathing, or taking any breaks whatsoever
floral pelican
That being said, WHO has established the disorder as a near copy-paste page of the gambling disorder. They clearly didn't put much effort into this.
magic sinew
Yeah, psych is a really grey area
floral pelican
It's unrelated to loot boxes.
restive kite
How so? If your gaming and happen to buy loot boxes then that's gambling essentially
floral pelican
They're simply addressing the obvious addiction to videogames from the younger populations. That being Millennials and Gen Z.
restive kite
Which would then lead the people who have no knowledge or experience on gaming to file it in relation to gambling
floral pelican
They arent addressing lootboxes in this, or gambling. They're simply addressing the priority of gaming itself, over real life concerns.
Such as a job, or going outside.
floral pelican
It's just about as blanket statement as you can get.
"priority given to gaming over other activities to the extent that gaming takes precedence over other interests and daily activities".
restive kite
I'm pretty sure if you have $27k to blow on virtual ships then you have more money for food
floral pelican
This would be you choosing not to eat because you're playing a raid in WoW.
Thats how vague this is.
magic sinew
Well no, thats a one time thing and skipping a meal here and there for a run might be alright
But if you do it on a daily basis and to the point where you are going hungry, then there is a problem
floral pelican
You're right, but they dont think so.
magic sinew
Obviously, their statement doesnt make that distinction
floral pelican
They think if you value gaming over anything else, then you have a disease.
And you'll die.
(since thats how they classify diseases)
magic sinew
This feels like its coming from the populations of Korea and China where gaming addiction is pretty serious
Obv it can happen here too, but the US doesnt have as many computer cafes that you can live in
so far as I know
floral pelican
I doubt it. They've had nationwide issues for a long time now. It doesn't make much sense for WHO to come out with this just now, and have it a copy-pasted article from their gambling page. I doubt their research was very thorough or backed up at all.
I feel like it'd be a more thorough independent article if there was a bigger reason behind it.
magic sinew
Im almost certain that its backed by some other ulterior motives
floral pelican
Certainly. I'm betting political.
magic sinew
It doesnt read like a report on a serious subject, just a bare minimum to get something generic down on paper so people can claim broad use of it
wheat comet
candid sentinel
Are they finally putting Navi on the market?
wheat comet
07.07.2019
Seems like they are going to be faster than Intel and around on bar with nvidia.
magic sinew
Thats a lot of entries even if every single person does all 11 tasks
Someone thinks it might be a bot, and they are probably right
Hmm yeah
Someones probably botting
vagrant heart
👏
lusty horizon
When do Ryzen 3 come
floral pelican
Gen 3? July 7th.
floral pelican
And yes.
Ryzen 7 is 400 something (I think) and Ryzen 9 is $499
Ryzen 9 out performs an i9 9900k.
And it's $500.
candid sentinel
Do any of those have a gpu?
lusty horizon
They're also selling a new line of gpus
candid sentinel
If I'm to switch to an AMD CPU I require it to come with a gpu, I dont care about buying a seperate GPU
lusty horizon
They are really good apparently. These new ones.
floral pelican
We'll see.
candid sentinel
Yeah but thats irrelevant when picking CPUs
hollow sedge
@floral pelican not in gaming
floral pelican
The computex presentation seems to disagree with you.
hollow sedge
there is 2 kind of peoples , the ones that listen to bullshit , and the ones that do math .
🤷🏻
choose your pill
floral pelican
Thanks for the useless contribution to the conversation. Would you like the benchmarks? I'm sure you can find them.
magic sinew
What games are coming to Steam?
@hollow sedge Also, Mox is right
The two vulnerabilities shit on shintel and you no longer not only have 20% less power per core, but also no hyper threading
So, either way, youre wrong
Obv, could be cherry picking, but no HT and the spectre/meltdown shit already hit them pretty hard
So no way its going to be good for them for some time
Also, really?
Either/or fallacy?
Seriously?
hollow sedge
pfff , there was 2 benchmarks , one on a game very very optimized for amd stuff , and one custom probably very partial again , and to complete with that they cant even take comparable hardwares , with similar core count etc ... 100% bullshit , now if you apply math , you quickly understand that's ok AMD did some improvements and their new cpu probably match the top end of intel , but i know intel still have a small edge over AMD , because multithreading over 8 still not that common , because frequency still matter a lot . That said i agree for work AMD is now far more superior for multithreaded softwares , and cheaper . But in gaming a 9900 or even a 9700 remain better . You cant prove me wrong , no worries , lets wait for real world benchmarks .
magic sinew
yawn
errant cradle
Don’t be a dick either aereon
floral pelican
"I think Intel is still more technologically advanced even though the i9 is now being outperformed by the Ryzen 9, therefore you're wrong."
magic sinew
"but my marketshares!"
half grotto
@magic sinew they only mentioned Gears of War and Age of Empires as the first titles to come, eventually it'll be 20
magic sinew
Ah niceu
half grotto
So probably forzas, and whatever other Xbox exclusives there are
hollow sedge
i would trust you if you show me revelant graphs made by independant peoples in fair case scenario .
magic sinew
[2:07 PM] Mom: "There arent any benchmarks so I'm right."
floral pelican
Ryzen 7 3800X is 3% better than i7-9700K in single core performance, and 37% better in multi-core performance.
I believe they repeated that performance jump for the Ryzen 9 and i9.
magic sinew
Honestly, just wait for release and then Linus will nut himself after dropping the Ryzen 9 and having it still show some seriously high performance
floral pelican
Probably.
It's okay, Token. You dont have to respond. We know you're wrong, so theres no point in trying to defend yourself. We can wait for benchmarks if you'd like, so we can come back to this and tell you you're wrong. Again.
hollow sedge
3% more perf single core which translate as 3% more performance at same core frequency , show me a 3800x reaching 5ghz on all cores
floral pelican
Ay dios mio, amigo.
magic sinew
hollow sedge
beginners often get caught
floral pelican
Why are your pants down, then?
magic sinew
Haha
hollow sedge
marketing BS vs real world
magic sinew
Idk man
Gotta be some serious marketing BS to convince The Drop Master to drop money on Ryzen
spring vale
He's recommended Ryzen before.
However, if the demos were any indication, Zen 2 is definitely going to put pressure on Intel to either improve or lower the price point on later generations.
faint dew
por que no los dos
restive kite
I just realized that the new EVE event thing basically copy's Stellaris Gate builders event
Some of the ships even look the same
lusty horizon
they're building a gate in eve now?
restive kite
It's a big advertisement on steam so I checked it out
Apparently it was small gates but now it's a massive ship that forms its own gate and all these ships come jumping out of it
And they're coming from a desolate sector of space that is void of life
Just like the L sector from stellaris with the gate builders....
median wigeon
@magic sinew afaik the full MCC, forza's non released games on steam, gears of war, and some more
the soruce is trustworthy
called the MCC a year before its anuncement and the coming of yakuza to pc some time ago
i guess he has contacts or something
lusty horizon
I can't wear contacts. I have astigmatism.
half grotto
You can get contacts for astigmatism though - I'm wearing them right now
Ofc it won't work if it's bad enough
true prism
You guys ever use the food subscription boxes? And if so which one?
visual cradle
didn't linus give the most hilariously shillest benchmarks ever devised for his ryzen 1 "reviews"?
also mfw people taking amd marketting benchmark figures at face value ahead of real world testing being at all available. that's a fun one. has provided many laughs over the past 15 years
i think ryzen 3 will be pretty nice tho
but amd overhyping products and then underdelivering is like the most defining aspect of the company during the past decade plus so...
floral pelican
"haha look at you guys falling for marketing bench marks even though I agree with you".
visual cradle
i dont agree with you
you guys sound dumb with the above arguments made
like linus really?
floral pelican
You realize they gain nothing by lying, right? They've been the underdogs for the past decade. Now is the time, if any time, to be as honest and open as possible as they bypass their rival.
visual cradle
is right
floral pelican
Also "marketing benchmarks" would be falsely advertising their product since they started specific clock and render speeds. They'd just get sued.
visual cradle
never underestimate AMD's willingness to undermine themselves
anyways suit yourself
you seem new to pc hardware game with arguments like that but sure,
floral pelican
There is nothing about the computex presentation that supports your silly skepticism and holier-than-thou perspective on things.
visual cradle
it's the same old story
there's nothign about amd's observable record in this area that supports what ever it is you think this is
floral pelican
When was the last time AMD or Intel boasted such a massive jump in technology for their own line?
literally never.
visual cradle
amd boasts massive jumps and outperforming their competition every single product launch
floral pelican
No they don't.
visual cradle
for the past 10 years plus
floral pelican
Lmao.
visual cradle
they do
floral pelican
Now who sounds dumb.
visual cradle
sigh
magic sinew
seem new to pc hardware
boasts massive jumps and outperforming their competition every single product launch
candid sentinel
AMD fanboys are like flatearthers
magic sinew
What does that even mean lmao
candid sentinel
You just nod and leave them to their militant beliefs
floral pelican
I dont like AMD at all. I'm an Intel build person, and have been ever since AMD let me down repeatedly, but it doesn't benefit you to openly dismiss a company's very obvious advancement in technology, which most of us have been waiting for for years.
candid sentinel
I require single core performance and an on-chip GPU which thus far automatically disqualifies AMD
magic sinew
If there was anything I would be militant about, it would be removing those who arent able to change their mind when new evidence is brought to them
floral pelican
If their benchmarks are accurate, AMD outperforms Intel chips in both single and multi-core performance. That was the point of the conversation.
magic sinew
Clearly there are more shintel fanboys out on the net despite the vulnerabilities fucking and mucking performance culminating into some seriously shit product
So by now, whatever performance advantage was there is now gone
candid sentinel
The vulnerabilities dont matter as home user
candid sentinel
And AMD still struggles with single core performance
floral pelican
Wrong.
magic sinew
What are you smoking and would you mind sharing your material?
floral pelican
Though.
Did you even watch the presentation? They're matching Intel single-core performance now.
They've closed the gap, and the competition is palpable now.
candid sentinel
Why should I care about a presentation made by the very company thats trying to sell their product
I'll trust neutral benchmarks when theyre out until then its hot air
floral pelican
Because they have no reason to lie. They're the underdog. They've been at this for literal years. They gain nothing by creating a PR event that negatively affects their company.
candid sentinel
Maybe that is so but why should I place blind faith in them?
magic sinew
Who asked you to put blind faith in anything?
floral pelican
I wouldnt really call it blind faith when they show you the numbers.
magic sinew
Its not even blind faith here, its actual market competition that hasnt existed for 15+ years
candid sentinel
They show me some numbers, I'm not in a rush to replace my current cpu
floral pelican
Nobody is rushing you to replace your CPU.
candid sentinel
I'll sit and wait to see how they perform in the real world and then make a decision whenever I need to upgrade
magic sinew
Youre making the assumption that we are trying to get you to replace hardware
Stop pulling crap out of your head
candid sentinel
Youre telling me I'm wrong for not being hyped
floral pelican
Nobody is hyped either.
magic sinew
Again, not my words
Ive been saying that you havent provided any actual reason to not see why Ryzen gen 3 will be a game changer
magic sinew
Youve been either not getting that point or just outright providing non sequitur reasons for it
"""realism""" 
And now its time to bail. Im not falling into this shit pitfall lmao
candid sentinel
bye
floral pelican
This whole conversation was intel-fans openly dismissing AMD's claims, and then people who are actually halfway rational pointing out how irrational it is to be an intel fanboy after AMD's announcements. AMD has underperformed and have accepted that reality for the past decade or so, so when they come out and say "We're better than Intel now, and we'll sell it to you for cheaper", that's going to ring some bells to people who actually know how social psychology works. You can be cynical and skeptical, but there is a reason behind why someone says what they say, or why they behave the way they do. This case isn't rocket science. They wouldnt make this kind of announcement unless there was actual weight behind it.
Intel fans are reacting to AMD's history, assuming they're incapable of such advancements. Or they're scared that it's true and their all-mighty Intel build is now moot and we spent several hundred dollars more than we needed to just to get a gaming PC now that AMD is selling i7 and i9 tier CPUs for half the price.
magic sinew
Theres also a difference between being a pretend "realist" and actually knowing what youre talking about
The second you start claiming "I know Im right cause Im a realist" is the second I can smell the bullshit
Cause in no way can you validate a point just from the claim that "I definitely know what Im talking about"
candid sentinel
Everything youve said so far has been quite the bullshit so I'm quite done talking to you, as for Mom, no objection there but I find it wholly silly to, as a consumer, make a competition out of whose manufacturer is the better one, we'll see when they're on the market
Whether or not AMD is more trusthworthy than other companies is irrelevant when its just healthy skepticism to mistrust what any coroporation in existence tells you
floral pelican
I only bought Intel because AMD wasn't giving me what I want. I have no loyalties to any company. I'll build my PC out of whatever parts that offer performance at a low price.
magic sinew
Lol ok kid
candid sentinel
Yea, as will I
magic sinew
/s
candid sentinel
Dude you called me so much shit in the last 5 or so minutes, the one who has to grow up clearly isnt me here.
magic sinew
Hmm that /s automatically moving to /shrug is annoying
candid sentinel
Really rustled your jimmies there, learn to deal with it
magic sinew
My loins are fine tyvm
And so is my head, save for congestion
But so far it doesnt look like youve come up with anything concrete besides "im a skeptic" "im a realist" -- the usual BS fallback tropes of any imbecile that cant argue for shit
Its not even an argument at this point, its nuances of how they pulled it off. There is no way to say for sure except for waiting 6 days, but regardless, its not going to be a great quarter for intel
candid sentinel
Finally you manage to form a sentence without resorting to ad hominem, keep improving
magic sinew
Another trope, claim "ad hominem" when you lose so that you can look good on the surface, but really, all tangibility was long gone
Feels good man
candid sentinel
Just call everything a trope then cuz youre better
magic sinew
Why thank you
candid sentinel
Point fucking proven about AMD fanboys I'd say
magic sinew
Nice. I see you havent yet caught on.
floral pelican
You don't support taking company sides, but you accuse other people of doing so just because they pointed a finger at you, and questioned your logic.
Ya'll need to be nice.
candid sentinel
You can question my logic or you can just throw a bunch of shit at me cause you wont even accept anything other than your own opinion
I'm quite fine with the former
magic sinew
Ive yet to be a fanboy for any hardware or software company
If there was anything Id fanboy over, it would be my deskmat
And even at that, its still not the greatest product ever either.
So really, whatever advantage or leg up or pedantic avenue you think you have over me is false
candid sentinel
I'd be quite happy to get some cheaper processing power again, especially in the graphics card section but until its there, its not there
And my idk how many gens outdated hardware does the job for now
It'll survive another gen or two of new releases
warm hazel
depending how sq42 plays for me is when i'll upgrade
candid sentinel
I expect it to run quite well on hardware that can run SC in a playable fashion
visual cradle
i feel like performance gains you'd expect from it playing sc pu will be lost by chris roberts epic star wars space battle scenes
candid sentinel
Possibly
visual cradle
remember in that sq42 play demo even tho it was singleplayer it was still running at like teen frames
errant cradle
Not blindly defending them, but that was before OCS
and I'm guessing more stuff that helped out with performance
visual cradle
i know what you mean but alot of the stuff back then was server side, sq42 had tonnes more geometry and animations on screen most of the time than pu normally has
er the demo did
and effects like fog/clouds/etc etc
*alot of the performance issues back then (and still now really)
errant cradle
Honestly, still expect it to be somewhat bad fps wise
maybe like 70-80 average on release, but hopefully they pull some black magic and it ends up being fine
even better now that the new ryzens are coming out
magic sinew
Fingers crossed
sweet geyser
SSOCS will help
plus, if you get server meshing after that, reminder that such a shard only needs to keep track of a small set of space, not the whole system as right now
brave kraken
i didn't know SSOCS was that important until yesterday when i read that servers had to keep everything loaded and already had their memory capped and they can't add microcorp without it
atomic flower
@magic sinew I get you on the ddr3, but intel CPU > AMD cpu
magic sinew
Im waiting for my 5820k to break at some point
magic sinew
No, just your methodology of thinking is
atomic flower
Nah
magic sinew
Its not bad because its intel
Its bad because its been subject of 3 meltdowns so far
atomic flower
Hmm
magic sinew
And not one of them has been good for business
magic sinew
On the other hand, its 35 days till Ryzen gen 3
atomic flower
That can't even run the latest Minecraft
magic sinew
A month of waiting for a gen 3 Ryzen doesnt sound too bad
Or even just a month for some bundles/deals/price drops
So objectively, its better to wait and get some fairly new parts rather than 6+ year old hardware that may or may not be working as well as anything similar on the market
white cairn
y’all bad
magic sinew
@errant cradle ^
magic sinew
half grotto
hollow sedge
Why not have a slow channel for org ads allowing 1 per day so we can see what groups are actually active?
errant cradle
We used to, #promo
Had to delete it because people couldn’t follow simple rules, and our moderation logs mostly came from that channel
hollow sedge
like what?
errant cradle
Deleting it and mirroring the subreddit rules was the best thing we ever did
Posting discord links, posting rsi links. You had to put your orgs description and put “dm me for more details”
Super simple stuff
solemn cradle
what did people do?
magic sinew
You want a list?
errant cradle
We currently have 1,039 mod logs atm I think, about 350 of those are from org related offenses
errant cradle
Back when #promo was still around
magic sinew
- Terrible logos
hollow sedge
Terrible logos like offensive?
errant cradle
The worst offense were orgs bumping other people’s posts out of view
half grotto
Was just about to say that lol
solemn cradle
this pefore slowmode was a thing?
errant cradle
If someone posted their org ad, someone would post theirs like 30sec after so theirs would show up first
errant cradle
Straight fucking cancer
magic sinew
It gave cancer cancer
half grotto
Maybe like the same 6 orgs posting over and over
hollow sedge
I've seen success in allowing 1 post/day. Ya there may be bad posts but you're mods.. You can't just not allow org/community promotion because it causes work
errant cradle
In the end we just decided to mirror the subreddit 1:1
errant cradle
Basically how it should have been from the beginning
We did try 1 post a day
That was the last adjustment we made before deleting the channel
Literally the last straw
hollow sedge
Very cute Aereon
errant cradle
Aereon stop being a cunt
errant cradle
Funny because I used to be the same way
The hawx start hammering me down lol
So I’m a semi hypocrite
errant cradle
Also it’s a lot less work than before
magic sinew
Im currently in the middle of an identity shift
errant cradle
Someone posts org stuff, we delete it and send them a warn or kick
Less than 10sec
magic sinew
Oh yeah, there was also the fact that no one really used it
errant cradle
Nope
magic sinew
So it was mostly just one-upsmanship and spam
Err, used it to find a new org consistently*
errant cradle
I have folders for the 4-5 orgs that used it regularly
hollow sedge
Where is a good place to grow or advertise an org with a purpose?
magic sinew
The other subs
errant cradle
r/starcitizen_guilds
errant cradle
Is like the only main one I think
half grotto
errant cradle
Or befriending people in game and joining their orgs that way
hollow sedge
Cool, thanks
errant cradle
3 warns and a ban while I was at work, fun stuff
floral pelican
restive kite
You're welcome guys for getting #promo deleted
restive kite
visual cradle
guild recruitment forums/channels/sections really are cancer. and so often are the guilds that push them like it's their actual real life job or something
recruit threads are sometimes hilarious tho when some nobody guild like mine starts offending people somehow again and they get all mad and start threatening to griief us out of some heavily instance little to no world pvp game
:D
candid sentinel
Please submit your CV and application at our absolutely shitty guildlaunch website
visual cradle
pls go through our six hour long 50 step interview application vettting process. pls be prepared to submit proof of your vadayo gaem achievements. pls submit photo id and passport as well
we will then list your achievements from other guilds in our recruit spam for years after you've left our guild because we expected guys like you to carry us
sweet geyser
Please follow this procedure in discord
Please follow this structure that allows me to have ultimate power
visual cradle
also don't forget the hollywood movie military style ranks,
sweet geyser
Ranks can be a good thing, provided you don't make a 10 men org led by an High Admiral or such nonsense. If the lead alt+F4's out of the game, the ranks determine a line of succession on who is now lead, removing confusion if you're busy in the Verse
visual cradle
i love when i join a guild and half the member ship is officers tho :D
sweet geyser
Thing is, organizational structure is a requirement to remove confusion and provide clarity
most org structures only add confusion and remove clarity
What I've learned is that a structure in an org for something like SC needs to provide users options to be malleable; do this at this moment, do that at that moment.
visual cradle
i just think people tend to over do it :P
sweet geyser
A lot of orgs try to be fair to one and all and be democratic af, so the group becomes rife with indecision and petty domination through fiefdoms. I prefer to think the way to go is that officers lead from the back, handling petty things for everyone so the men can play, but also that if the officers decide to do X that the men should follow orders.
you know, ''hey, officer makes sure everything is arranged and does boring stuff''
visual cradle
eh everyone has their own organizational style
can't say i've seen many democratic guilds in mmorpg's/online gaming tho
light weight relaxed sometimes. sometimes officer/guild master being exasperated and telling the core group to figure it out themselves sort of thing but
but generally they aren't democratic
sweet geyser
true. I want to try out a method where people can go laissez-faire or ''strict militaristic'' based on what they want to do
visual cradle
i don't think they're really thought that far
even if they've got grand ambitions and 20 military movie ranks to move up through
most guilds/orgs are really just a group of friends gaming together really
sweet geyser
I mean, if you're gonna do a difficult mission deep in Vanduul space you want someone who can get things done and if you run cargo from ArcCorp to Hurston it may be a bit different
true
visual cradle
i feel it's a worse sin to forget that people gaming with are friends than to be disorganized tbh
sweet geyser
It also depends on size. I mean. we're 200 men strong, so just lacking any structure or way for people to climb up based on performance means anarchy
visual cradle
right
sweet geyser
it's really difficult to find a good balance
visual cradle
i liked when my 40-60 people were active in games and i had 3-6 leadership role people supporting my leadership adn the membership in general
sweet geyser
For example; if you're doing a mining run with escorts, you don't want the miners to stray off too far, yet also give them leeway to mine the rocks the way they see fit
visual cradle
right, people have to learn how to play as a team,
and adapt to teh conditions of a giving game or activity within a game
sweet geyser
We're 200 men with 10 officers
sweet geyser
Most of those 200 are inactive though... you know ''wait until the PTU is further in development''
visual cradle
i'd probably have at least a few sub officer leadership people, people who don't want to commit to officership but when they are around they command respect and often find themselves leading groups/intitatives/taking the initiative etc
ahh yeah true
i only count active members
tho i like having an open door policy on membership
visual cradle
which used to be unusual at one point, but idk about nowadays
yeah lol
people used to get really upset about "guild loyalty"
lol
sweet geyser
So, most of our current time is getting a confederacy of orgs working, so active folk can do casual mining cargo runs and the like without no one being online.
And for me to get the bot in good order
see #imadethis
visual cradle
i remember having this long ass DM convo with former clan leader in l2 about loyalty and betrayal cuz i joined a different clan cuz he wasn't reliab;le for exp
yeah
visual cradle
my guild doesn't really play sc. yet at least. they actually hate when i talk about it/ so just me and a couple guys now and then doing odd funsies things and me trying to teach guys who play once a month how to survive in a dogfight :D
oh yeah fiefdoms are the worst
sweet geyser
we also play Minecraft and such
visual cradle
it's like reinforcing the worst of clique behaviour
sweet geyser
muh High School dramatics
visual cradle
everyone in my community is busy with irl now. so mostly it's talking about weed and gettin drunk on the weekend if people aren't too stressed out from work/school/romance/etc
but we make time for each other despite being busy irl and sometimes for games too. so that's nice. you got anice friend circle when kind of thing. even if it dosn't make for the best mmo pvp fighting force :D
sweet geyser
Same thing. Real life takes precedence
visual cradle
yeah
in the end i just try to make the experience fun and as unfrustrating as possible for my guys when they have time, since i've got alot of free time. and that's about the best i can do. doesn't always work, whiich is why they refuse to play sc with me until some magical unknown date in teh future :D
god activating cubase is a pain
candid sentinel
Didnt cubase age pretty poorly?
candid sentinel
You cant compare audacity to cubase wtf
visual cradle
audicity is good for what audicity does, but it in no way compares to a proper DAW for music production
the past some years i used reaper for various things, which is annoying to use but relatively cheap, if basic. got into maschine i guess almost a couple years ago now and been a learning experience but it's great... but has limitations in several areas i am hoping to overcome with a 2nd daw. i selected cubase elements because cubase is something my collab partners work with as well and seems to work well enough with NI products, which i am heavily invested in.
candid sentinel
Most every DAW that deserves to call itself that works well enough as a VST host for NI
visual cradle
turns out tho with my voice meeter set up i need a physical audio interface unit (which i need down the road anyway as i prepare for a future project) for the driver or w/.e stuff so it's just a pain rn
candid sentinel
Reaper is just too complex to keep trying to be a tracker
visual cradle
yeah reaper is a bit of an oddball
candid sentinel
Your voice what?
visual cradle
but it's not suited to what i want to use the DAW for anyway, and it's becoming cumbersome in my collaborations
voice meeter banama
bamama
w/e i can't type lol
candid sentinel
whats that
visual cradle
umm its to split audio channels for streaming basically
so i exclude all my voice comms from my streams and videos
candid sentinel
I see
visual cradle
but i could add them selectively
visual cradle
anyways i could use cubase with maschine now, but i'm not there yet, and so i'm moving forward the audio interface unit to handle it, which nicely brings my kaosilator into the mix
i could get that yes
but i need the audio interface in teh future anyway
planning on getting a monologue
candid sentinel
yeah always good to have
candid sentinel
Kinda silly they put interfaces into midi controllers/synths now
I got an m-audio venom with an audio interface and a dedicated audio interface
visual cradle
idk that the synth is a midi controller
but the kaosilator is kidn of one
even in terms of what it does on it's own
and ofc maschine hardware is just a DRMed more or less midi controller
candid sentinel
Isnt kaossilator just that toy version of the proper kaoss pads?
visual cradle
theis is the kaostilator pro +
it's got like 255 sound banks + some recording and what not stuff
candid sentinel
oh wait yea I actually have that one lol
visual cradle
adn a vocolader but that's broken on mine
it's cool
i like that kind of interface in an instrument
i started off 20 years ago with a dr sample so...
:D
candid sentinel
I dont really like it but man its easy to make a quick and decent improv with
visual cradle
no it's absolutely terrible
we used it for like 3 songs on one album, and a made terrible demo album with it
and it's been rotting since
candid sentinel
aw
visual cradle
but i busted out the stylophone and made a song with that recently so i'm pulling it back out now that i'm getting the behringer lol
i mean it was great for learnign with
it was a huge learnign experience, worth every penny i spent
candid sentinel
I regret the purchase
visual cradle
maschine has been a better value
candid sentinel
But
visual cradle
exactly
candid sentinel
I rarely ever record anything I make anyway
visual cradle
i record and release pretty much everything i do except mouth noises and singing i do in the kitchen
lol
candid sentinel
lol
I dont have the confidence to produce a proper track so I just play stuff as it comes to me and by the time I realize it sounds almost ok its too late to fire up all the recording stuff
but eh its fun anyway
fickle perch
If we're still talking about sound gear. I went overboard.
I run a Creative AE-5 to a Clarett 8Pre (best independent metering on an interface imo) then I bounce a TOS from the clarett to a Steel Series transmitter for a headphone option (or the HD-25's for quick monitoring).
Tbh the only reason i have a 20 out interface is for throwing sounds around with dante. I can remotely access my PC upstairs and play tracks to my system in my living room or my surround system for my TV etc.
visual cradle
that's fair succulent
in general it's pretty low chance of getting enough of an audience to make any appreciable money/money spent on it back so the main thing is to make the music for yourself always no matter what your style is. i just have a thing for releasing everything as i go along even different WIP iterations etc and some times bare bones pieces for free use by others if they snag the download in time
i have fun making music with a few friends and that's worth every bit of it, plus i get the enjoyment of making the music no one else makes that i wanna listen to, which is A+ even if no one else likes it :D
sweet geyser
In honor of 75 years ago.
This is the best video you can find on the subject IMO. The whole series is a joy to watch, very informative.
woeful arch
solemn cradle
@woeful arch oh hey there
woeful arch
👋
solemn cradle
didn't know you played SC
woeful arch
You say that like every time I post something here. 😁
Mostly lurking yet, haven’t gotten back into it.
solemn cradle
lol
half grotto
inland gyro
restive kite
That starbase trailer looks good, hopefully it'll be up to par with what they actually showed
harsh flax
Hey... I've heard that before somewhere...
river heart
hollow sedge
shell isle
its just the gungus you know
true prism
torn mantle
the man is just trying to get to work
restive kite
Anyone here play Ark?
sweet geyser
I did
for a while
good grief. clan relations there were so overly dramatic, backstabbery and just plain vile.
it made me quit the game altogether
restive kite
Yeah I don't do official servers anymore
But ik they just released a new map
And was wondering how it was and if I should use it for my unofficial ark server
sweet geyser
I have it for PS4
torn cape
restive kite
I'm disappointed in the complete change between Doom 4 and Doom Eternal
restive kite
@hollow sedge You are not a zeek
restive kite
@hollow sedge I'm sorry for your loss
restive kite
@hollow sedge you swallow?
hollow sedge
motherfucker
now, anyways
@restive kite wefgwer efwf rwgwr wefwe
que pasa?
@restive kite omai wa mo shindeiru, que pasa, gutentag
@restive kite go on, reply to my last message
@restive kite e
Well, its not like I can dm him?
steep river
@torn cape How do you like teh x-56? I really like your setup.
queen hull
teal holly
true prism
warm pelican
anyone available to help me with a ship loadout? id appreciate it
torn cape
@clear arrow It looks.....Groovy
clear arrow
cable management 100
clear arrow
thanks
mossy wigeon
Wow my setup is like very obvious trip wires all over
shell isle
yo
does quarreler laser autocannons work in 3.5.1
or are they like every other kruger guns
mossy wigeon
when your monitor is so cheap it's a microwave
delicate blaze
You insulting my glorious monitors?
I'll throw one of the heavier ones at you, knave!
mossy wigeon
Is that a Macintosh monitor?
delicate blaze
Ye
I've actually since disconnected it since this image was taken as there's something wrong with the flyback transformer.
delicate blaze
Is YangGang somehow related...?
granite meteor
Yeah that background is in the same style as their vaporwave hats
delicate blaze
Oh. Well, this is just generic outrun/vaporwave
granite meteor
Yeah fair enough
delicate blaze
Because A E S T H E T I C
granite meteor
I feel it
wintry mesa
i like the keyboard
delicate blaze
Is nice keyboard
wintry mesa
i can just hear the clunk of pressing a key
warped spruce
That's some serious #hackerman going on in that picture.
hollow sedge
what do u think will there be modules that makes the caterpillar stronger than the final version of the merchantman?
half grotto
Probably not
lyric ravine
If you owned an Idris name x3 ships you would keep inside it's hanger?
- Razor Ex
- Eclipse
- Super Hornet
- Sabre
Atleast that's what i'm thinkin
hollow sedge
890 Kraken and Javelin 😛
turbid widget
Honestly I'm hoping that merchantman keeps the inner turrets for shop protection
Generally I'd also like the inner kiosks to have a tax per sale automatically credited or something
twin swan
@lyric ravine as many arrows as you can fit there
solemn spoke
@lyric ravine A question of personal preference. On my Idris it would be three Sabre's ... but I do own one and I only have one Sabre 😄 ( one Eclipse, one Super Hornet, ... )
If you have to plan it that way now, there are also other players with ships.
hollow sedge
how do i switch control from assist to gimbal?
half grotto
R
hollow sedge
ok thx
vocal cradle
Dose anyone voice I wanted to talk about ships I have a 600 I but mite melt it or go bigger
It’s the 475 one
unique lion
Is that the only ship you have?
unique lion
Yeah that uh, I can't say that's a very good fleet lol
vocal cradle
True
I want to get something that a lot of uec in game don’t want to use my lti on a cheap ship
unique lion
You'd be better off grabbing several cheaper things until you put more $ in. If you planned too
But with rentals and such coming.
vocal cradle
I can put more money in
vocal cradle
True
unique lion
The main issue is even a cutlass, for $375 cheaper holds 6 UEC more than the 600i
So if you got it for cargo, it's beat by a longshot
If you got it for combat... just... why?
Only thing it really does right now is sit there and be pretty
vocal cradle
I like the warden
unique lion
Those will likely go on sale for 3.6
vocal cradle
Or a maybe a hull c or benu Merchmam
south cave
dark minnow
yeah I've got one of those, it's quite nice but I never use the tilt thing. The drivers are really nice for it and if you practice using all the buttons they can come in handy, but you need to force yourself to use them to get practice.
magic sinew
Never thought someone would unironically support using that amalgamation, but alright then 
It looks really dumb, but its probably one of the most functional mice Ive seen with so many layered inputs
dark minnow
I enjoy using a button immediately to the left of the left mouse button as middle mouse click, so I don't need to use the mouse wheel to click. It's such a massive help. Opening new tabs and closing tabs for example.
Being able to change DPI and profiles easily is quite zesty.
magic sinew
Ye
How much is the mouse?
Oh yep, just as expensive as launch
$230 before tax
I dunno, I might get it for my next setup or something
tardy hamlet
i wish i had a kot of money to spend on this gane
bold lava
got the urge to make monies? how much cargo room you gots?
soft nexus
600i with gimbled gatling 3x s4 its pretty good at ratting
However any player you encounter in a fighter will fly circles around you
at least in the cutlass I feel like I have a chance
unreal geyser
the Lexip mouse looks pretty nice actually
the Z looks like a rejected prototype of my Roccat Tyon
oh okay the tilt function is pretty cool
hollow sedge
Alright so i gotta bring this up
Why the fuck does this company (CIG) think it's a good idea to only release fully polished items into the game? They keep reworking these ships over and over doing the same work 20 times because to make gameplay impacting adjustments to ships (changes) they have to completely redesign an asset that's already had 5+ people touch it and polish
They haven't established heirarchies of ships and balance of combat yet, but they only release fully finished ships, and nobody knows how it will balance?
It's so ass backward and stupid, there is a REASON the rest of the whole gaming industry makes low poly stuff and balance it FIRST, figure out the problems of the basic design blocking, test it in combat, balance it, THEN polish it.. Not just stick to some JPEG an artist made 8 years ago because they said they would
I also feel like the time spent on the connie and snub fighter parasite ship setup is a total waste of resources and a fantasy gameplay element that will be useful in real gameplay like .001% of the time when it's actually done. The idea is cooler then the reality, just like every parasite ship in real life ever attempted by the airforce. Connie pilots pay so dearly for the weight and bulk of that snub fighter being attached to their ship that it makes it unmaneuverable. It's a great ship to have if u actually plan on getting destroyed and narrowly escaping.
I think the game needs more combat loops and reasons to fight over areas in ships right now desperately, and needs more of each class. The Vanguard Warden needs another heavy fighter ship to counter the Vanguard Warden. And that ship needs one to counter it. 3 of everything with distinct feels and plausible gameplay uses. Rock paper scissors combat please. Allow players choices in how they fight and make it a fun combat sandbox soon
Also, when piracy?
Tell me when the fuckin piracy is going to be in the game already
Piracy+Server meshing would give me a reason to fire this game up, although I feel like maybe there is an underlying financial motive to not implement server meshing due to the cost of running meshed servers
Until SC is fully released I predict we will see very weak server populations for cost savings.
unreal geyser
if something gets reworked 20 times is it really "fully polished"?
iteration is obviously necessary, especially when so much of the game's development and tech is still in R&D
i partially agree with you though, that they often tend to put the cart before the horse by releasing something that seems really cool in the concept phase, but won't make much sense in actual gameplay because hey, that's how the game gets funded
solid heath
worn root
Hey can the Kraken hold ships on top?
worn root
Sweeeet, How is that suppose to work in space? Wouldn't all the crafts get thrown off as soon as you hit hyper drive?
unique lion
will function like other ports where they get locked to the pad
need enough force to push a ship off a pad
think of a magnetic lock
worn root
Okay, sounds cool.
hollow sedge
if i got a package that includes lifetime insurance, will all ships in my hangar have LTI or only the ships in this package?
half grotto
Only the ship(s) listed in the individual pledge
hollow sedge
ok thx
half grotto
That's not really a valid comparison
soft nexus
Wouldn't the Idris K basically blow giant holes into the polaris?
spring vale
Same with the Idris M.
solemn cradle
the polaris could beat a idris with some ingenuity, and maybe some more ships, but generally all else being equal, the idris will win.
spring vale
The Polaris should be able to engage from outside of the S10 gun range.
visual cradle
it'll be interesting to see what the engagement distances are on the cap ships
the hammerhead is visible from 20-30km out
solemn cradle
I'll be intrested in seeing what the final scanner will look like, as I assume it'll give you the ability to scan sections or the entire solar system, might be intresting to see how ships will show up on that
visual cradle
scanner is one thing, idk what the design docs look like for ir/heat sigs and passive scans but they certainly seem to be going with what's there and tuning it at times
i think the active scan stuff will morphe
depending on size/class of scanner
there's also some neat things they've teased in game
solemn cradle
there's going to be long range scanners at some point
warm pelican
hey guys looking for a good fighter for bounties RN, currently have a Ghost Hornet, looking at the gladius/arrow/350r any advice?
twin swan
For bounties on 3.5.1 any fighter will do
AI is so braindead that ship with most DPS will be fastest
If weapon mount is available in PU hornet ghost will have most dps but I am pretty sure people have said its not available
hollow sedge
3.6 already in PTU? Or any ETA on it?
empty shadow
@hollow sedge https://gyazo.com/b67fc02e4d3dabd32602c8f27caf8025
empty shadow
i think its been 2 days since evo
hollow sedge
So at least 3-5 weeks to 3.6 in PU, right?
empty shadow
maybe couldnt say
hollow sedge
minimum is 1 week Evo + 1 week Concierge+Subs + 1 week all = so at least 3 weeks
white cairn
Well I mean every time except 3.5 it’s last day of the quarter
When it comes to quarterly patches
And 3.5 was ptu all on the last day of the quarter
However considering it’s June 27th and we’re missing out on features and still on evo
It’s definitely not really gonna hit the quarterly date
tardy hamlet
yep prob around 15 days or so tell its on live servers
bold lava
😭
hollow sedge
Mission sharing, when?
long cloak
There is no firm date set but they have confirmed that they are working on it
It is not going to be in 3.6 or 3.7
hollow sedge
How to push a feature? Seems like a really important part of being able to enjoy SC with friends
Not even 3.7? Oof
long cloak
True but there are loads of important features that are still missing
crimson mesa
There are so many things missing, that even if Mission Sharing was in. You would probably still be here asking why something else isn't in the game yet. Games be like that when they aren't remotely close to being finished
But I agree. I am looking forward to game mechanics for two or more players
long cloak
Yeah me too. I emailed CIG asking them when mission sharing was going to be a few months ago
they told me they didn't know
hollow sedge
It's really difficult to enjoy the game alone. It's a bit better with friends but it's hard to justify a 875 payout mission for 2 players
That's like min. Ofcourse you can do 8k missions
long cloak
I have sort of enjoyed doing chilled missions in 3.5.1
but I hadn;'t done missions for ages before that
hollow sedge
I fell through the planet yesterday 20 steps from delivering a package that took 20 min to get
Neat
long cloak
Yeah presumably they are gonna try to make the planets solid
well the solid planets solid
hollow sedge
That would be neat
hollow sedge
First time I'm hearing this
hollow sedge
I know that with everyday you get better n know more
But things still feel too confusing
I barely know where my fuel is
long cloak
We can't continue to live like this
hollow sedge
Or how to control ship overheating
long cloak
The ship overheating is prettyy tiresome huh
hollow sedge
Or how to zoom into the control panels and scroll down the list same time
Cause ATM I press f to zoom with scroll wheeel
long cloak
oh yeah when it scorlls out as you are scrolling down
hollow sedge
Then u use scroll wheel to go down the list of components
Right it scrolls the fuck out
hollow sedge
Oh there is one there huh
long cloak
Took me like over a year to even try that
I saw it there and was still like "fuck you, I shouldmn't have to"
hollow sedge
And the names of each component... If you don't know it's a cooler or shield by heart it's just component names