Basic wingflex

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On remodels make wings lift up after a certain speed doesnt have to be complex

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aeronautica code

this is a skibidi tier suggestion

[idle sphinx]

#rejected-suggestions

I personally remember this as being rejected

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this is different

i mean like old roblox planes

where it would make one part invisible

and one part visible

no animation needed

[idle sphinx]

still, it's rejected

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Say hi to floating point and tri density for me

[sick turret]

if im not mistaken if wing flex were to be a thing you would need to export a send wing alongside the model

4 wings on the model

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No

[idle sphinx]

probably the best chance to do this would be some bone model whatever the fuck
but meh not worth it for what feels mostly subtle and less fitting for Aeronautica

[sick turret]

how could it be implemented

i was thinking lie uhm

uuhr

like static things on planes

tornado wings example

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No

Exactly like this
https://youtu.be/OCu6CjbXLug?si=95_hWID2z9w8ZxrV

[idle sphinx]

this?
https://create.roblox.com/docs/reference/engine/classes/Bone

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Yes

Bones

Aka rigging

[idle sphinx]

The official documentation on it feels kinda lacking though

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You see, bones control the vertices’ transform properties (pos, rot, scale)

And a face contains 3 vertices

[idle sphinx]

triagnles contain three

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A square or quad contains 4, and can only deform on their corners

2 corners only to be exact

This means that topology now plays a very important role

[idle sphinx]

yeah shift two max or it breaks lol

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Aeronautica does not give a shit about topology, but rather optimization and shading

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no bone needed

[idle sphinx]

meh if you want it done right then yes

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Get out

[idle sphinx]

not some botched method

quality needs to be done correctly

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If devs were to use conventional methods (using seperate parts to rotate), there willl be geometries that will merge/converge/overlap with each other

[idle sphinx]

the wing root shouldn't even rotate anyway

[finite mesa]

not rigging every wing lol

you can do it with editable meshes though

[idle sphinx]

it's mostly the wing flexing in an "arch", the further from the root of the wing the further it would move

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Is wingflex feasible? Fuck no
Do devs here know how to do such shit? Fuck no
Do devs even know rigging? a bit

[finite mesa]

not sure how that would be implemented but would probably be a pain since all these different meshes would need to perfectly flex accordingly

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Topology sire

Dense specifically

[finite mesa]

new wings are dense enough

[idle sphinx]

eh I would claim it is feasible, but eitherway it just doesn't fit my idea of how realistic aeronautica should be

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But topology aint optimized for rigging/deformations

[finite mesa]

i know

[idle sphinx]

I wouldn't know on that...

[finite mesa]

i said you can do it that way not that itd work well for us

[idle sphinx]

Has anyone even considered experimenting with something like this ingame yet?

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I myself have rigged various vehicles and hairs, although the former just rigs their controls, the latter takes a shit amount of time and physical(irl) effort and time just to finish it

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Fuck no

It is possible, then again floating point

[idle sphinx]

what

[idle sphinx]

eh

[finite mesa]

yes

old coding dev tried it when editable meshes first released

[idle sphinx]

nice

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And why was it not implemented for production?

Let me guess, the same dev did the angled gears on the a330

[idle sphinx]

or perhaps what were the findings of the attempt?

[finite mesa]

it didnt work well or else it wouldve been implemented

plus having to calculate how the all the meshes contour with the wing (engines, pylons, winglets, etc)

[idle sphinx]

oh wow wasn't thinking about engines lol

[finite mesa]

this suggestion name is an oxymoron since there is no "basic" wingflex

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Everything on the wing will

[brittle moat]

how do you think this would work

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@slate arrow answer this
OP has posted multiple skibidi tiers

You have to defend why this must be added, not just a simple statement

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i think like no animation

how old roblox doors work

like landing gear

it just makes a part invisible

and another part visible

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So just seperating each portion of the wing and make them rotatable?

That is very unoptimized

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yes

i mean then join them

[finite mesa]

you would have to do that for every single mesh connected to the wing

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make another model of wings in blender

[finite mesa]

and with advanced customization thats like 20+ sometimes

Marcus AURAlius

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Which will amplify part count, and amplify it’s unoptimization

[finite mesa]

not worth it unfortunately

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lemme see if i can find it

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We know what youre talking about

It will turn out badly

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like this

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No one wants a snappy animation

@jade mason whats your take on this as a modeler who hasnt rigged a plane before?

[jade mason]

does roblox supports steady polys deformation?

here's your answer

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i think so

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M

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And

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@jade mason nothing fancy needed

[jade mason]

no

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Do you plan on making your wing topology dense and structred?

[jade mason]

this one is def no

[jade mason]

also no

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Exactly

[jade mason]

to be fair you don't need to make it much more dense

but still

would you backtrack all 600 models, half of which aren't even available anymore as modelers left long ago, to rework every single one of them?

it's not even 600 anymore

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Uh it’s def needed so as to make the bend not polygon visible

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you could have people contribute

and maybe give reward

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Mmm no most of their works are barely on aero standards and will be replaced by actual modellers

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And def no

Contributors are people who contribute or make things voluntarily

[jade mason]

reward as in game ig

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yes

igc

[jade mason]

either way it requires way too much effort for the sake of it

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i had an idea

[jade mason]

besides say hello to the floating point which destroys anything animation relate

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each time aircraft is remodeled

add it

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Literally what the first thing i said

[jade mason]

so uh, while being neat thing i'd say no for plethora of reasons

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ok

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We dont have the knowledge, nor would like to, to rig a plane for aeronautica

We know how to rig in blender

But not to roblox studio

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i didnt mean animation

i mean make a seperate wing in blender

and import them together

[jade mason]

just swapping wings models looks wack

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and make the lifted wings invisible

like old roblox studio plane models

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We know your point and are denying it for aero

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ok thats fine

[jade mason]

andrew already put denied tag long ago

i think even before you pinged me

[idle sphinx]

:3

?floating

NAURRR

?sliding

[agile hawk]

If you are experiencing drifting or sliding around while taxiing, this is called floating point error. It is an issue that is hard-built into ROBLOX's engine so there is nothing we can do to help it.

Floating point error happens the further away you are from the center of the map. This is why you will see no drifting at Clarence but find a lot at Valois.

[idle sphinx]

UwU

[idle sphinx]

yeah lol that's the part that would suck