#Suggestions access quiz

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gloomy crescent
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Unironically, not a troll suggestion, quality of those seemingly degrading and almost all recent suggestions are breaking rules one way or another, mostly by ignoring Trello. We got back to Trello quite some time ago, so excuse of "outdated Trello" isn't applicable anymore

So, Idea...
In the end of suggestion rules, there is a quiz, which asks tricky questions about and across ALL rules, and before getting access to creating suggestions, they gotta perfectly score it, at least 10/12. But given that this is internet, might do 12/12.

No we do not limiting the amount of times you can try if you failed, it works in benefit of both ways:

  1. If member made mistake, he can go back and re read rules, reassuring his rules knowledge
  2. Keeps away people who don't bother about rules, and wont bother about going through this hassle

In perfect scenario, Discord mods might know better, if that's possible, but would've been better if suggestions access and access to suggestions creation were separated. So in order to communicate with other you don't need to complete the quiz.

Is it overkill? Yes.
Is it somewhat mean? Kinda, depending on your definition
Will it deplete amount of suggestions? Significantly

It will improve it regardless, I'm convinced

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onyx relic
gloomy crescent
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current situation with suggestions is quantity, not quality, and i'd rather have the latter deado

hard kettle
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Pls

onyx relic
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wait

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this post

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is from enclaved

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?

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lol

smoky magnet
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if quiz were to be denied, what about level?

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new people wouldn't be able to suggest, but also new people are the people who has the least exposure to this game; not used to

odd escarp
gloomy crescent
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I believe i was the first one to seriously pitch the idea

smoky magnet
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Is it somewhat mean?
you're forgetting about people who would attack original posters, they're quite mean

gloomy crescent
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didn't seen it however

gloomy crescent
smoky magnet
gloomy crescent
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toxicity in suggestions comes exactly from their quality

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or rather, how low this bar currently is

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also, uh... being a dev telling you "you're ideas suck so bad i wanna limit them* is kinda mean by itself

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not that it's how i put it, but how it could be missinpret

odd escarp
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I was mostly against this but atp I'm for it, there's so many ppl that don't even check #rejected-suggestions that like 1/2 of the suggestions now are in there

smoky magnet
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honestly we should have mods on suggestions

gloomy crescent
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yep

edgy sphinx
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i love

gloomy crescent
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i mean suggestions is like only stuff that even we can moderate, which make sense cuz duh they're primarily for us

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but it's limited with locking/deleting suggestion however

smoky magnet
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then again not all suggestions are for modeller devs

edgy sphinx
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oh shit

smoky magnet
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oh shit

odd escarp
smoky magnet
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those exist?

edgy sphinx
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i was gonna say they exist

raw topaz
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um

edgy sphinx
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but i accidentally pinged them

raw topaz
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?

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no worries

edgy sphinx
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im sorry 😭

raw topaz
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its ok

edgy sphinx
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anyways now you should tell people to ping yall for bad suggestions

smoky magnet
subtle arch
lethal kelp
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At first I thought the quiz idea was a joke but it's actually serious dread

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No way we're doing it

subtle arch
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That said, having read through this. The suggestion is pretty doable, you can use bot role quizzes to assign a role in theory

onyx relic
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Sulution: Ban everyone making a suggestion good or bad trunno

edgy sphinx
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i need to grind out some blooket coins

odd escarp
lethal kelp
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It would be much more simple if when getting the role it asks if you read the rules and rejected suggestions, and points you out to those channels if you didn't

odd escarp
onyx relic
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Suggestion mute

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3 days

vast quail
subtle arch
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Their max user limit on free is a little low for what I need though

lethal kelp
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Aero being a more mature community is expecting more maturity in suggestions, but occasionally we'll get less mature ones. Though there's no reason to punish them if they have good intentions and did an honest mistake

gusty snow
uneven merlin
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disobey the rules

subtle arch
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I think that asking a few questions in terms of ones people make all the time, like "is adding flaps a rejected suggestion"

uneven merlin
subtle arch
uneven merlin
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this suggestion is good

edgy sphinx
uneven merlin
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aside from steering away the clueless sheeple at times it kinda gets really annoying seeing shitpost or poorly structured suggestion over and over again

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like there are real good ones

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but for the love of god it gets sparse at times

lethal kelp
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It's not going to stop shitposts

uneven merlin
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thats something i was about to bring to the table

subtle arch
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People are gonna shit post either way

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Just makes it slightly harder

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The biggest bonus would be repeat rejected suggestions

lethal kelp
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I still think a quiz is way excessive

uneven merlin
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the intention is good but the method is destructive

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quizzes can discourage

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and that makes it hard to be like yo guys can we add this to the game in general

lethal kelp
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It's reaching the point of micro-managing suggestion access

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Turn #suggestion-rules into a channel that gives you access after you've read the rules, or something

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I'm sure there's a better way

uneven merlin
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its very complex for a simple thing

edgy sphinx
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will it be mcq

subtle arch
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It's probably overkill, at least the size of quiz suggested

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Id be more in favor of a simple 2 or 3 questions just to see if people have comprehended the rules

uneven merlin
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what if somebody does the quiz passes and then proceeds to fumble tumble suggestion

gentle hound
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hi komet

subtle arch
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That will happen

uneven merlin
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what if multiple people did that

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would that demean the purpose of the quiz in its entirety

subtle arch
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It would mean it's not achieving anything

uneven merlin
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because its not gonna stop things like shitposting

lethal kelp
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Questions about #rejected-suggestions would make zero sense. Nobody is supposed to study ALL of those before starting to suggest. Instead they should use it to check if a specific thing is denied before posting it

onyx relic
subtle arch
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Even for the big ones like flaps or pvp?

lethal kelp
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Yes

onyx relic
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isn't there this uhhh feature like with rules that you have to accept the button to access the server so you have read the rules

lethal kelp
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#suggestion-rules is the generic one that people need to know

shut palm
subtle arch
onyx relic
lethal kelp
shut palm
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fair

onyx relic
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funny how when something like that got suggested a few days back it got instantly rejected

uneven merlin
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magick

lethal kelp
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Where?

onyx relic
subtle arch
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Sometimes the discussion needs to happen multiple times

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It's been brought up a bit recently in a few places and ideas about it have been mixed

onyx relic
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yea thats true

uneven merlin
subtle arch
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Ultimately it'll probably be down to what the dev team wants

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Since suggestions is ultimately under their purview

quiet oar
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Ngl I think suggestions have improved recently, like in the past few weeks there were like only 2 ones that were straight up skibidi tier

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Unlike in march when every second one was skibidi

gusty snow
quiet oar
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Well

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Counting that and 2 other ones i saw recently in the past 2 weeks, its not that bad

smoky magnet
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1 out of 5 suggestions are skibidi tiers

steady iron
steady iron
edgy sphinx
tropic river
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Hear me out
I believe a large problem with current suggestions is that when a new suggester wants to make a suggestion, they model their format based on how they see others suggesting, so provably the first 10ish they see. The issue with this is probably only one of these is a decent well formatted suggestion, as we have absolutely nothing to separate wheat from chaff.
There’s two ways that this could be handled - quickly taking out low quality suggestions that don’t adhere to the rules, or switching back to activity sort. Date posted as it is actively buried good quality suggestions in a sea of skibidi, so a new suggester only has skibidi to base their own suggestion on and you have blind leading the blind. Activity sort would at least allow more discussion provoking / interesting suggestions (which are usually higher quality - not always, but that’s better than a million skibidis) to stay above and filter out the skibidi tier. Also allows good suggestions to gain traction and public interest, as date sort very quickly kills off suggestions and makes it so a far smaller portion of the user base notices it.

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TLDR: monkey see, monkey do - so make monkey see more of what monkey should do
Now, all of this would be solved if these guys even bothered to look at the suggestion rules but these are average Roblox players we’re dealing with

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feel free to shoot me down this is just my take on what I’ve observed for the past however long

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(Also skibidi tier emote please I still have the pic for it)

tropic river
lethal kelp
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Now why are we proposing a quiz to #1183405059569094726 but not one for the server #rules ?

smoky magnet
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not much people violate them every week

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if they do violate them, not much would notice them since not all are even in the said channel
the quiz is specifically set to #1183405059569094726 rather than being in general and applicable to all channels
more people would see the violation here in this channel

lethal kelp
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The difference is that violations are either managed by mods in private or in specific channels and quickly gets buried in the chat

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Here each violation is much more noticeable and people are triggered more easily

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Even though it's much less serious than #rules violations

calm ivy
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A quiz is a good idea in practice, but I feel like its unnecessary gatekeeping

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Us mods have been stepping up with the modding of #1183405059569094726

smoky magnet
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alright bro who 4'ed me

gloomy crescent
gloomy crescent
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When there’s only decent suggestions, people will try only decent suggestions

odd escarp
glad rivet
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or anyone's braincells

hollow hinge
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hold on

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im quite bored anyways

austere creek
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unable to read back 5 days clueless

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hard kettle
quiet oar
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Enclaved suggestion banScheme

odd escarp
cold grotto
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I literally suggested this not a week ago

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😭

static sand
static sand
lethal kelp
steady iron
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get a 650 on the Gao-Kau(高考）before u can suggestSkrolled trolley

thorny jewel
steady iron
thorny jewel
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Masters is what you can get in uni

steady iron
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yeah but its mental torture

thorny jewel
edgy sphinx
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whats a gaukau

hollow hinge
still walrus
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Both

hollow hinge
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It's a very big deal