Ingenuity Helicopter

[tidal hill]

General Information

Ingenuity is an extraterrestrial autonomous UAV NASA helicopter that operated on Mars from 2021 to 2024 as part of the Mars 2020 mission. It is equipped with a camera for its scientific payload, therefore capable of survillence

Specifications

Wingspan: 121 cm
Height: 49 cm
Width: 52 cm
Dry Mass: 1.8kg
Rotor Speed: 2700rpm
Blade Tip Speed: <Mach 0.7
Endurance: 2 minutes and 47 seconds
Range: 0.38nm( 704m, 2,310 ft)
Service Ceiling: 79ft (24m)
Maximum Speed: 19.4 knots
Climb Rate: 588 ft/m
Note: The Specifications given are on Mars' surface, whcih has a lower air pressure(about that of 87,000ft on Earth.

Pros:

There has never been an extraterrestrial aircraft in Aeronautica

This is a very important aircraft as it marks the first flight on Mars(Wright Flyer on Mars)

There is a prominent lack of Martian Helicopters in the game

The capability for this aircraft to take pictures may allow it to perform survillence

It is able to recharge in the sun due to it's solar panels, making it a special aircraft that's able to "refuel" inflight without fuel tanks

Cons:

The aircraft is very small and has many intricate details, making it more difficult to model than traditional aircraft

The specifications of the aircraft do not reflect that on Earth's surface, making it difficult to make accurate specifications on Earth

The introduction of inflight "refuelling" during flight and at daytime as a game mechanic may be difficult to implement

Blueprints:

Wikipedia:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingenuity_(helicopter)

(for your information, i am suggesting this aircraft with full seriousness, as i believe extraterrestial aircraft should be in the game)

[lusty tree]

prominent lack of martian helicopters

[tidal hill]

yes fr

[lusty tree]

[tidal hill]

react with it

[lusty tree]

i did

[tidal hill]

W sigma

[lusty tree]

fr tho the blades look rlly cool

[tidal hill]

theyre optimized to fly in extremely thin air conditions

and theyre really light

[lusty tree]

how high could this thing go on earth tho

[tidal hill]

carbon fiber outer shell and foam core

[tidal hill]

mar's surface is like 87000ft on earth

[lusty tree]

holy crap

[tidal hill]

and it has those specs at 87000ft

so its pretty impressive

[lusty tree]

fr

[tidal hill]

also it recharges inflight with solar panels

thats the selling point

[lusty tree]

i think they should just make it regen passively

[tidal hill]

idk

[lusty tree]

not like this thing is good at jobs

[tidal hill]

way too complex

[tidal hill]

it takes pictures so it can be used for survillence

[lusty tree]

just make it slowly refuel lol

[tidal hill]

look it recharges on ground

also this thing should be able to land in any terrain

[lusty tree]

make it do the thing when it lands then

[tidal hill]

if it can land on martian land

[zealous leaf]

Would this only be for surveillance or other jobs too?

[tidal hill]

basically just surv

it takes pics

transports nothing

[lusty tree]

it's damn slow tho

20 knots

[tidal hill]

at 87000ft.

[lusty tree]

it'll be like balloon

[lusty tree]

[tidal hill]

it will be very good on thick air

maybe

because props generate more thrust i think

[lusty tree]

very interesting

[tidal hill]

its insane

[lusty tree]

they prob gna add this as epic rarity tho

if they even do

[tidal hill]

are they even gonna add this thing

[lusty tree]

i hope so

[tidal hill]

sold in seraphim

because thats the only spaceport

[lusty tree]

mars heli

[lusty tree]

i thought kibo was a spaceport

they have rockets there

[tidal hill]

ah right...

or craftable?

[lusty tree]

ooo

[tidal hill]

are they gonna put crafts extremely high in the atmosphere

[lusty tree]

bro cooked with this one

[tidal hill]

makes the x-15 useful

[lusty tree]

ye

[tidal hill]

crates in the hanger island

regardless

this thing qualifies for all things that are needed to be in aero

if a dev comes

idk...

riogri certified

shocker

[fickle stag]

epic rarity sold at either seraphim or kibo

[tidal hill]

u sure?

this thing is absolutely stupid

https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/ingenuity-mars-helicopter-0d5bdd6b28bb469ea99cc9a74e06169a

blender 3d model

dunna if its up to quality

[dry night]

I thought there's eros?

[tidal hill]

gone and replaced with seraphim

[grim axle]

floating point will decimate it with it's size

same as asking DJI Mavic drones

[tidal hill]

so is that a no?

it is revolutionary tho

[grim axle]

pretty much

[tidal hill]

oh damn

[grim axle]

it is revolutionary how Roblox is bad as a game engine too

[tidal hill]

whats wrong with floating point turning it into a piece of mess

i dont care if it looks like a 4d rotating tarus emitting a 1200mHz sine wave

i just wanna fly lil helicopter

little mars helicopter

[tidal hill]

but ingenuity is so cute

an adorable little one

just look at it

would u say no to this little child

[grim axle]

it's a box with 4 sticks and propellers

[tidal hill]

ya but its so small and adorable

ingenuity plushie would be smth i want

so its just because its too small and not because its martian

[tidal hill]

dont forget the rectangular plate

tbh this thing would fly great in earth's atmosphere

considering how good it performs at 87000ft environments

@lusty tree i am sorry to tell you but its been practically rejected

the dev has effectively kicked this little guy square in the face

[tidal hill]

add the rejected tag then

[lusty tree]

damn

would have been funny

devs hate fun

[tidal hill]

"breaking news as a developer kicked a little child in the face"

"saying it was too small"

[lusty tree]

lmao

[tidal hill]

he said it was too small and would get obiterated by floating point

RIP
Ginny
2021-2025
cause of death: attacked and kicked to death

[zealous leaf]

I hate fun ah devs 🙏

[dry night]

would it be a pain in the ass to recreate aeronautica, with all the same assets, but this time, the map moves along with the player to minimize or even nullify floating point issues?

[fickle stag]

I think it's been discussed and decided this isn't possible

[fickle stag]

[grim axle]

yes

[grim axle]

it has nothing to do with fun

[lusty tree]

ik lol it's a joke

i understand why this isn't gna be added

still kinda sad

[grim axle]

sorry, i recieved a lot of crap in my adress so sometimes taking stuff too serious

[lusty tree]

oh

[grim axle]

but yeah effectively it's due to small scale, uncertainty of what purpose and classification it would be

[lusty tree]

yea

also cos it's made for mars

[grim axle]

and after all it's still not earth? based, but that's not my role to call it so i'd let higher ups to decide

[lusty tree]

real

[fickle stag]

if it's too small then make it bigger

[grim axle]

not how it works here)

everything we make is relatively scaled

even fictional stuff if it has original dimensions known

[fickle stag]

that was the joke

[lusty tree]

can i ask tho

when will the DHC-3 and the tucano be added?

it's been sitting in the viewer for a while

[grim axle]

it's broken so no idea

[tidal hill]

Classification: Extraterrestrial Unmanned UAV Helicopter
Purpose: Research and Survillence

tell me that isnt cool

also this thing flies at conditions similar to 87000ft on earth

[lusty tree]

oh ok

[white stirrup]

There is a prominent lack of Martian Helicopters in the game

[tidal hill]

fr

im not wrong

wait

i specified

"Extraterrestrial"

not Martian

thats different

Venus could potentially be fit to fly aircraft in

hecl

it would be even better

the thick atmosphere makes it so its easier to generate lift

[white stirrup]

anyway this is very cool
unfortunately the small scale of the game and floating point error would absolutely crush this aircraft

[tidal hill]

so

[white stirrup]

since it's barely .5 m wide (hull) and goes 19 kts

[tidal hill]

i dont care if it looks like a 4d rotating taurus

[tidal hill]

it goes 19 knots in mars atmosphere

[white stirrup]

[tidal hill]

which is equivilent to like 87000ft on earth

[white stirrup]

it would be slower with a thicker atmosphere and stronger gravity

[tidal hill]

so imagine if the rotors produce that much thrust with the insanely thin air

imagine

[white stirrup]

wdym 87k ft

[tidal hill]

the blades can spin the extremely thin air to produce thrust

as in the pressure on mars surface=87000ft on earth

[tidal hill]

propellers produce more thrust in thicker air

[white stirrup]

what

[tidal hill]

the air pressure

therefore im saying that mars atmosphere is extremely thin

[white stirrup]

oh

[tidal hill]

yet the propellers still are sufficient to use that air

to propell itself

[white stirrup]

the atmospheric pressure at mars' surface = the pressure at 87k ft of altitude on earth ?

[tidal hill]

propellers produce significantly less thrust in thinner air because it produces thrust by moving air

[tidal hill]

yes.

thats important

[tidal hill]

because this

[white stirrup]

this assume that the propeller won't snap ...

[tidal hill]

the thinner the air=the less air is availble to be moved

[tidal hill]

the drag would make it spin less quickly

[tidal hill]

thats exactly how the real thing broke down

but it'd produce similar thrust or more thrust

because it was designed to produce the lift needed on mars

therefore it's blades produce a shit ton of lift

this is different from thrust

because im sure of it

[white stirrup]

like for example
a propeller running in water will produce more thrust than in air

by that logic, a propeller running in solid concrete would produce even more thrust (since it's in a denser, more viscous material)
except the material is too thick for a propellor to even rotate

[tidal hill]

yeah

but also considering lift.

Lower pressure=less lift

[white stirrup]

do you think the mars helicopter's blades are structurally sound enough to spin in earth's atmosphere, fast enough to produce lift, without breaking or snapping ?

[tidal hill]

its carbon fiber

[white stirrup]

doesn't mean anything

[tidal hill]

also u didnt account for the lower rotational speed due to increased drag

so it wont rotate at mach 0.7

[white stirrup]

but that slower rotational speed with also dramatically reduce thrust produced

[tidal hill]

the main thing is centrifugal force

[tidal hill]

the thicker air will boost it's performance still

i believe the thicker air would be more than the drag

it should outweigh the disadvantages

tbh helis move using lift

[tidal hill]

nooo

https://tenor.com/view/paz-white-flag-wave-waving-flag-gif-15666633

fine

[zealous leaf]

Testicles

[zenith rapids]

what the hell

[tidal hill]

trust

[tidal hill]

bro why it get denied

[zenith rapids]

💀

[raw hawk]

Cool, but the helicopter can't fly on Earth. Floating point will kill it too because of how small it is (sized slightly bigger than a human head).

Would be a interesting easter egg I could add as a prop as a memorial to the only mars aircraft.

But Id have to check with sizing first

[tidal hill]

its also the first flight on another planet

put it in yoeshaw next to the wright flyer

[elder frost]

It technically can, in fact I think they tested its terrain following on Earth first, but it’s not meant to

[raw hawk]

I only got access to kibo

[raw hawk]

Not really, during test flight of Ingenuity in a closed testing environment, it had a cable support attach onto it to simulate Mars Gravity.

You can see the small cable on Ingenuity during testing

[elder frost]

Weren’t those flights also in 0.2 Atmospheres?

The issue with mars flight is the thin Atmosphere

[raw hawk]

Yes

But the test was on Earth which we can’t just avoid Earth’s Gravity if we want to

[elder frost]

Its atmosphere is 5 times thicker with I think 0.2 g more gravity to something like that

[raw hawk]

Mars?

[elder frost]

That’s at least twice the thrust

[elder frost]

Earth

[raw hawk]

Ingenuity can only lift off with the help of a cable support here on Earth