Un-nerf the Boom Overture 2022 (why did this even get nerfed to begin with)

[hot dust]

The Boom Overture '22 was released to much FanFair in the Aeronautican community, especially when it was tested and proven to compete amongst the top level established meta planes in the game. However, with seemingly zero reason or notification given, someone silently reduced its capacity by SEVEN PERCENT. (a LOT for an airliner)

This suggestion was made with the aim of reconfiguring the Boom Overture to it's pre-nerf state. What reasons do I have to back up this opinion, you may ask?

Reasoning

1. The Overture '22 has 33 windows on each side of the plane. Is it just flying around now with 3+ entirely empty rows?

2. While reducing the capacity of an aircraft normally allows it to access smaller airports with higher demand, the Job Chain route for the Overture is completely composed of Airports with 36 or more capacity. Thus, the Capacity reduction is just a flat nerf and serves absolutely zero benefit.

3. With the nerf, the Overture 2022 is merely a mid-tier SST, swimming in a pool filled with 1960s concepts and prototypes which utilized vastly inferior technology. It makes sense for the Overture to be a meta plane as it is newer and utilizes more advanced tech than almost all other SSTs.

The nerfed stall speed doesn't really make a difference, because even at its previous 145-knot stall, the plane is already exempt from every airport in the game that has a stall capacity (yes, stall capacity is a thing, and I mapped all of them out)

Regardless, it would be highly beneficial to the in-game meta to re-adjust the Overture 2022 to its pre-nerf configuration.

On the job chain portion, Here's the job chain route for the Overture '22 in it's 35 capacity configuration.

For the 30 capacity configuration, the aircraft would essentially be running the exact same route with 7% less capacity, as there are no new airports that can be incorporated into the route.

[keen spade]

i cant wait to see people arguing in this one

[hot dust]

the only possible way the capacity nerf could lead to a more efficient job chain route is by nerfing the plane even further so that it can access Webley Island and Lynwood Municipal (25 capacity) but have fun landing an SST with 160 knot stall at either of those

[keen spade]

wait what is its stall speed now

[hot dust]

160

but that doesnt matter

even with previous 145 knot stall it was kicked out of every airport with a stall capacity

the highest stall cap is Hemeos with 143

[keen spade]

they couldve just made the conversion more expensive or take more time

smh

[hot dust]

fr

[jaunty veldt]

i dont even understand because didnt they literally say that the 22 overture wouldnt be nerfed

[hot dust]

EXACTLY

[novel bone]

I mean, it got 4 engines instead of 3

[hot dust]

stall doesnt matter tbh

[novel bone]

that's gonna add weight

[hot dust]

yea but the capacity nerf is just dumb

stall speed makes some sense

[jaunty veldt]

also wait when was it updated

[hot dust]

new servers its 30

and 160kt stall

[jaunty veldt]

oh

[novel bone]

?

(server: B4E)

[jaunty veldt]

fr they should have just done that if they knew it was going to be op

[hot dust]

new servers have the stall at 160 and capacity decreased from 35 to 30

[hot dust]

it isnt even OP its just top tier

[jaunty veldt]

i mean its op for the price ngl

relative to hypermach

[hot dust]

hypermach is still 700kt faster with comparable accel

[tropic solstice]

0E5

[hot dust]

[jaunty veldt]

actually i just realized it wouldnt be a good idea for me to argue that

[tropic solstice]

server is 3 hours old

[toxic drum]

as someone who uses a hyper and a hyper seller, i disapprove this proposal, let hyper always be the best sst, screw realism and stuff

[novel bone]

I'll check later on newer servers

[hot dust]

[novel bone]

overture doesn't even exist yet...

[hot dust]

although hypermach was just a stand model and this has a full fledged functional demonstrator

IMO price tag should be increased and capacity should remain the same - it is essentially an expensive blue SST in it's current config

having it be just a mediocre aircraft is a waste

[toxic drum]

yeah scew that fact too because this is aero and the reality is what the devs want

[hot dust]

hypermach was still the best even before overture was nerfed but now overture is like IL-72 tier

[toxic drum]

oh, its still better than boom not being nerf’d? Well then you may proceed

[novel bone]

nerf hypermach

nerf overture

there, I solved it

[toxic drum]

Thats worse for everyone

[shut jolt]

really wanna talk about changing it's stats? cuz i can

[hot dust]

cruise not max speed
aussie alr went over this

he said it wouldnt be nerfed

but then someone did anyway

[novel bone]

also tbh, I wonder when will they make SSTs not go UP like a shuttle due to players

[hot dust]

nobody said anything it was just silently changed

[shut jolt]

don't see "cruise speed" here

[novel bone]

the nerf personally was not very significant to me

[tropic solstice]

I think thats just the wikipedia wording

[hot dust]

having it be a 50k WP orange convertible with identical stats to the donor would be completely pointless especially when it was created half a decade later and utilizes an extra engine

[novel bone]

but it looks cool tho :c

[shut jolt]

so it has better stats already

[hot dust]

yes, but the reason I suggested this is not primarily because it completely broke the usability of the aircraft for grinding or completely altered it's ground in reality, but rather because it was nerfed to make it compete fairly against planes developed half a century prior

...which utilized far outdated technology

[midnight hawk]

doesnt the overture have ungodly acceleration

that it just shouldnt

[hot dust]

I just thought id throw this out there i dont really want to argue about it but if its not getting reverted I understand

[shut jolt]

if it wasn't nerfed tho

[shut jolt]

except 2016 stats are actually more closer to real thing and you can't argue with that

[hot dust]

L2000 silently taxis away

[shut jolt]

it if was this much better than "outdated half a century prior" planes we wouldve keep those better stats

but since it's barely any faster (just above 200mph than Concorde) even 1466 knots is pretty fair addition in the time where it doesn't even should have them

OH NO WAIT

IT'S ACTUALLY SLOWER

[hot dust]

[shut jolt]

there goes half a century outdated technologies ig

but to be fair all of this went into range and economy

rather than speed

also safety

i don't think Overture almost blows it's tires of each landing

or well, would do that

[hot dust]

hopefully in half a century tires improved

[novel bone]

@shut jolt I was wondering if you guys have a plan for this

[midnight hawk]

no

[shut jolt]

last time we tried whole aero started complaining cuz planes couldn't gain any alt

so no

[novel bone]

like limiting their climb to 20 deg or something

[shut jolt]

we did

[novel bone]

ah

[shut jolt]

and all hated it

[tropic solstice]

afterburner accel obliterated

[hot dust]

simply put if something like that is in a game for years it becomes a feature rather than a bug or issue

anyways, i just thought id throw this idea out there not gonna fight tooth and nail over it

[keen spade]

at least the accel stays

[shut jolt]

-# i would just say "don't touch the hornet's nest, since we should be thankful Overture even went through with some stats improvements in the first place

[shut jolt]

[tropic solstice]

uh oh

[hot dust]

[shut jolt]

every time smth happens to SSTs it feels more like a mine field to not break anything and not make it somehow even worse

i just glad we had to keep both of them instead of just replacement while SST ban still in place

[median epoch]

idrk about anything else but the cap thing is lil weird

doesnt equal rows

[shut jolt]

cap is fine, dev team were discussing it a lot before

[keen spade]

the cap thing in aero is pretty arbitrary

[hot dust]

...it did not stay

[keen spade]

how bad is it now

[hot dust]

but the acceleration reduction isnt that bad

still 24 seconds to 300kt

[keen spade]

ok not bad

[tropic solstice]

what was the original

[hot dust]

18

[jaunty veldt]

honestly the accel is still decent enough

[hot dust]

it was 2s quicker than hypermach

[tropic solstice]

good

[jaunty veldt]

yeah im not surprised they werent gonna keep the accel either

[tropic solstice]

guys can we nuke hyper accel

[hot dust]

capacity matters but only to an extent
any airliner over 50 capacity is pretty much useless

[tropic solstice]

whats the 2016 accel?

[jaunty veldt]

its just stupid how capacity is literally based on nothing

[hot dust]

[hot dust]

...45 seconds

[tropic solstice]

afterburnerless ssts without good accel are

certainly something

[midnight hawk]

well yeah theyre afterburnerless what did you expect

[hot dust]

Overture '16 accelerates comparable to the fuckin AN124 lmao

[noble moat]

https://tenor.com/view/sigma-sigma-male-sigma-male-tip-sigma-male-tips-grindset-gif-23479416

[hot dust]

[median epoch]

highkey

[hot dust]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-carell-nooo-pleasegodno-the-office-angry-gif-12174751

[jaunty veldt]

im not opposed to it ngl

[median epoch]

suggestion to un-nerf an SST
gets all other SSTs nerfed

demnocracy

[hot dust]

it will quite literally be blue rarity tier if it gets accel nerf

[jaunty veldt]

hyperdeflated sonicscam

[hot dust]

[light sparrow]

Solution: Buff 2016 Overture, Un-nerf 2022 Overture, raise price on 2016

[vital topaz]

Aeronautica try not to have a argument over SSTs challenge (impossible)

[hot dust]

why did i stick my head into the bees nest

[jaunty veldt]

fr 😭

[keen spade]

nah im just annoyed bc they said it wont be nerfed

but it got nerfed and people didnt even know about it because it was a shadow nerf

[hot dust]

this
like idc abt the nerf but it was just toally silent

[keen spade]

for whatever reason

[jaunty veldt]

yeah honestly the main reason im annoyed is because it was a shadow nerf

[keen spade]

shadow nerf after it was said we wont have nerf

[jaunty veldt]

i kinda expected it to get nerfed anyway despite them saying otherwise

[keen spade]

that makes it worse

[median epoch]

waaa waaaa!!!

[keen spade]

idc about the nerf itself

[median epoch]

sorry guys that was unprofessional of me

[keen spade]

just wish they said

[jaunty veldt]

theres literally no reason to make it a shadow nerf because people are gonna find out anyway

[severe sigil]

i aint reading all that how bout you make an overture to some bitches

[jaunty veldt]

[keen spade]

already have a gf

[median epoch]

i think its mainly because we can softpatch vehicles in game without republishing the main game and updating changelogs

[severe sigil]

[hot dust]

fair but it at least wouldve been good to issue some kind of statement or spread the word instead of leaving us to discover it

[molten lodge]

do NOT tell drown

[jaunty veldt]

yeah

[keen spade]

thank god theyre gone

[median epoch]

i think its funnier that way

[hot dust]

i think we have already come to the conclusion that the plane nerf was more of a balance patch rather than nuking its performance so thus i elect to lock this

[molten lodge]

kinda miss drown that shit was so entertaining

[median epoch]

allow us to partake in a little humor

[keen spade]

true

[jaunty veldt]

whatever ig

[finite crest]

what happened here

[keen spade]

prob was a nightmare for mods

[finite crest]

180 messages

[jaunty veldt]

idrc that much anyways

[vital topaz]

This is just the hypershit matksetsonic thing again

[keen spade]

nothing

[hot dust]

nothing
we are chilling

[molten lodge]

can someone start arguing i want entertainment while i eat

[finite crest]

k

[median epoch]

we are removing the hypermach

[jaunty veldt]

lmfao

[finite crest]

thank god

i was abt to type that lmao

[light sparrow]

Hypermach Sonicscam

[vital topaz]

Excellent

Now replace every aircraft with the MD-83

[molten lodge]

thank god

[finite crest]

since we're reverting the nerf of the overture, why not revert the nerf of the hypermach too

[vital topaz]

Mcdonnell Dougautica

[light sparrow]

Hyperscam Sonicscam!!!

[finite crest]

let them have 1 week of fun

[keen spade]

april fools

[finite crest]

then remove it

[noble moat]

I can't wait for hypermach nerf suggestions

[finite crest]

[light sparrow]

Remove hypermach

[jaunty veldt]

md80 model ingame :(

[vital topaz]

You are going to fly the Maddog and you are going to like it

[hot dust]

we have already been down that road and its now been closed for public access

[light sparrow]

Hyperscam

[finite crest]

just a little outdated

[hot dust]

ok im gonna do the funny before argument go brr