Make the 787-8 Delivery Job More Commonly Available

[desert gust]

To Start, Why should it be more commonly available?

• The people who would benefit the most from doing this job are easily new players who need a plane after acquiring the jet engine license and having spent enough time on a narrow-body such as the 737. They likely are not getting to do this as it is so infrequently available that the ways to get around it are either continuously server-hopping, or just waiting for it to randomly pop up, which takes hours that most people do not have.

• At the moment, the 787-8 serves as as an item traders can sell for high value, in a litany of items they can sell for a high value, such as the Kanamoris or rare craftables such as the SR-71 Blackbird. Unlike the Kanamoris, the 787-8 is available outside of events, and requires a lot of effort to acquire, like a craftable plane. However, unlike craftables, the -8 has no “perk” that makes it “unique” (Antonov A-40) or “better” (Dreamlifter). It isn’t even like a fighter jet, where it’s a leisure item with niche jobs that can provide fun, because there are other planes that outperform the -8 and are easier to get.

• It makes very little sense to have the -8 be so rare when the rest of the 787 family is easier to acquire. Players specifically looking for a 787-8 have to put up with a lot of hurdles or alternatively have to pay a disproportionate amount of money for it, which isn’t in line with the rest of the 787s, let alone airliners in the game.

• Other jobs of this rarity at the very least have a HUGE WP reward compared to the -8, or are far more time consuming like surveillance.

How common should the job be?
I believe it should be as common as the Airshow jobs commonly available across a variety of cities, since both are region-specific and are best suited for a select few types of games. You can debate me on that though

@vernal trench

[vernal trench]

I upvote this suggestion

[desert gust]

thanks :)

[cedar mesa]

[rotund socket]

Imo, it really isn't all that rare in the grand scheme of things

[desert gust]

“isn’t all that rare” my ass

[rotund socket]

Its still far easier to find than some rare dealer aircraft

[desert gust]

1 hour of waiting for the job to get it and it still didn’t show up

[rotund socket]

Now the plane in question is a bit unrewarding for the rarity, but its still not nearly as bad as it could be

[desert gust]

and server hopping with this network is a pain

[rotund socket]

A 2% chance that everyone can benefit from with a chatwide notif and a dedicated fanbase willing to share server codes is far better than praying to God you find a 2707 in stock

[desert gust]

and even still, if it doesn’t show up there, I’m not waiting another hour for it to

the only people who benefit from this are traders, who ALREADY BENEFIT from LITERALLY EVERYTHING ELSE

[rotund socket]

ignoring the rapidly growing number of collectors who did the jobs themselves

[desert gust]

the 2707 at least has UP to purchase it with

[desert gust]

and I’m going to assume they’ve got a lot of time compared to the average player right?

they are a niche group compared to the wider group that benefits from using the -8

[desert gust]

it’s legit like having to travel across Russia to find a Toyota Prius. And I’ll bet most of the people with that time on their hands aren’t even going to use it

[hearty flower]

Do new players have a lot of UP?

[desert gust]

no, and get this does the 787-8 job need UP? N O

plus they’d have a good chunk of UP after finishing up with a jet engine license, and at that point I wouldn’t call them “new” much

[hearty flower]

toyota prius at vladivostok international airport

journey over

you just got out of the airport and you found the car

[rotund socket]

I mean, not really, I could barely get a purple out of stock when I got jet license

[desert gust]

fine, digging across russia to find a mcdonald’s burger

does that work with you?

[rotund socket]

Getting to SST license is barely enough UP for a 2707/L2K

Anyways, back to the original topic, if its too much of a pain then just trade or wait, its literally just fancy dealer hunting or less annoying crate hunting

[desert gust]

by finishing up I mean at the later stages of the jet license

[desert gust]

I mean digging into the ground

[solemn warren]

PLEASE

I'VE BEEN SITTING IN GAME ALL DAY

I BEG

[hearty flower]

why would you dig into the ground for food thats disgusting

[desert gust]

and a waste of time for most

that’s my point

you’re doing something so time consuming for what is disproportionately less useful

yk at least a blackbird is useful and is worth waiting for, or like even the Antonov A-40 being a fun thing to mess around with

[hearty flower]

it only took me like 5 to 10 minutes to find it

[desert gust]

that applies to virtually every single thing that’s as difficult as the -8 to get, and yet the -8 isn’t in that group

[desert gust]

and I’ll call you lucky, because I waited for 1 hour just now only to not find it, and I waited 2 in the morning to not find it

[rotund socket]

Luck is luck, whether its thru jobs or dealer or crate parts

[hearty flower]

why are you waiting at 2 in the morning

thats your problem

[rotund socket]

Some people will get lucky, others won't, thats just the reality of rarities my guy

[desert gust]

I waited for 2 hours, when it was morning time

[desert gust]

yeah bud we already have gambling joints

[rotund socket]

788 being the center of the new job could be questioned, but making the job more common kinda flies in the face of the new mechanic imo

[noble berry]

I've spent hours server hopping and waiting for a 787-8 job and it still hasn't happened

So I aggree with Aldin

[desert gust]

how?

you already have delivery jobs for other less common planes

[desert gust]

thing is you just don’t get them after it’s over, but that’s fine

[rotund socket]

Job events get overlooked, this gives people more reason to pay attention, plus its something new to the table (which is a general theme with this update)

Plus, this is just another Boeing, its really just for collectors and fanboys

If you really want an airliner to grind with, 787-9 is sold at the exact same airport iirc

[desert gust]

don’t we have crates for that?

like we already have something that makes it for “collectors and fanboys” as you put it

[rotund socket]

Crates are moreso for experimental or high end aircraft

[hearty flower]

yeah i agree
lets make the 787-8 a crate plane instead

[noble berry]

NO

[hearty flower]

[desert gust]

yeah at least I can get it with some WP

and not burn a day in what’s essentially some 1s and 0s in Roblox

[hearty flower]

you can get the 787-8 with some wp too

[rotund socket]

Airliner variants are usually converts, crates are a completely different niche and dealer's already the standard

[hearty flower]

just wait for the prices to die down if theyre that high

[desert gust]

yeah but with crates, it’s for less wp

[desert gust]

one guy offered 125k for it

they ARE, that high

[rotund socket]

This gives a new way to collect airliners so people actually have smth to do to unlock all airliners

[hearty flower]

dude crate hunting is more tedious than sitting around waiting for a job to show up

[hearty flower]

thats normal for every new plane

[rotund socket]

Prices will inevitably tank, as all new update vehicles do

[hearty flower]

i literally just said to wait for prices to die down

[desert gust]

yeah and luckily for me I can pay someone else to do it

[rotund socket]

This plane is already proving to be far more common and far easier to get than various crate planes (including dogshit ones)

[desert gust]

and even still, it won’t cost a fortune

[rotund socket]

And as said earlier, this is a far easier method than crate hunting

[desert gust]

wait a fucking minute

[rotund socket]

Far less tedious too, since you can't get duplicate parts

[hearty flower]

i think you just have bad luck bro

just join the alerts server

wait for a ping

[rotund socket]

Its literally just wait for a text in chat or a message from players in this server and flock to Lynwood

[vernal trench]

well we can't rely on others all the time can we

[rotund socket]

Nearly every single crate plane released has been far worse to get within the first few days than this

[hearty flower]

it only took me 5 minutes for someone to say theres a delivery job

[vernal trench]

that's cuz right now the hype is high

[desert gust]

ok one sec so I looked up your username and you have like 900-1000 messages in the trade den, and the last message was 4 days ago. I’d say you’re decently active in trading

[vernal trench]

what about the future

[hearty flower]

and the game is a player driven economy

[noble berry]

I have spent hours in this game for a non existent job. I would much rather buy it from a dealership than wait hours for a job and just fly it already

[hearty flower]

relying on others is the point

[desert gust]

you’re literally the only group that benefits from it being this rare

get out of here

[vernal trench]

exactly

[hearty flower]

yeah because i yap

i barely actually trade

[desert gust]

fr

[hearty flower]

i only got a 787-8 and i intend to let it collect dust in my hangar

[desert gust]

yeah you’re the group I described 15 minutes ago

[noble berry]

You said that you'd sell it for 1 mill or some shit like that in aero atc

[rotund socket]

Also a good point, we're coming off of update hype rn

All somewhat rare vehicles are hella overpriced shortly after update

Regardless how they're obtained

[hearty flower]

i said that because i didnt want to actually sell it

[rotund socket]

Period

[desert gust]

the only people putting up with this nonsense are traders and collectors, both who never use the plane or make a quick buck off of it more so than anything

[hearty flower]

i didnt even say i was gonna sell it you just said you wanted one and i offered

it wasnt even serious it was a joke offer

[rotund socket]

Prices will drop soon, and theres a good chance you'll find the job or a server code to one within the week if you don't vanish from the game

[vernal trench]

swap the 788 with the 78X for delivery jobs

[hearty flower]

"youre the group" i havent even touched the trade discussions thing since the update

i didnt need them to get a 787-8

[noble berry]

Yes.

[desert gust]

not trader, collector

[rotund socket]

I mean, tbf the 788 serves no better use than the 200+ other airliners that exist

The difference between them all is negligible, so if yer here to grind then literally just buy any other airliner

[noble berry]

your missing the point with that statement lmao

[desert gust]

I didn’t talk about grinders

[desert gust]

genuinely

[vernal trench]

with that argument, the other variants should be made obtainable only by delivery flights too

[noble berry]

I don't grind, I just want myself a -8

[rotund socket]

How does it imply that?

[hearty flower]

have you considered the fact that a lot of things in this game benefit either high end players or no one in particular

the best grinding planes are expensive

[stark stump]

[hearty flower]

ships are expensive and require a lot of afking

[desert gust]

yeah and at the very least they have a function that’s specific to that and not something I got at an earlier level?

[rotund socket]

I'm literally just saying that if yer trying to get a grinding plane, go with a more accessible plane lmao, the airliners function about the same

[gloomy ether]

It’s a 2% chance to spawn

Be thankful it isn’t 0.1% like in the dealership

[rotund socket]

This too lmao

[hearty flower]

if a mechanic benefitted new players it would benefit older players even more

[desert gust]

at least I can get AROUND THE 0.1%

[hearty flower]

if the 787-8 job was more common then the collectors and traders would get even more

[noble berry]

The 787-8 is a one job, reveive plane, not fly for hours and money to get it

[desert gust]

I have to wait for that 2% chance unlike with UP

[desert gust]

yeah and here it ONLY benefits old players

[noble berry]

So you don't grind. the only thing close to grinding is waiting for a job contract to open.

[desert gust]

a group that doesn’t need it has access to it most, and the group that needs it has access to it least

[gloomy ether]

There’s usually 10 servers at a time with a refresh once every 10 or so minutes
that would mean there is a 20% chance for at least one special delivery job to spawn in at least one server
And as more delivery jobs get added, the chance for at least one delivery job to spawn will only increase

[vernal trench]

the 788 is a typical airliner which has no business being THIS rare
yellow rarity is better

[noble berry]

[gloomy ether]

2% is basically dealership purple rarity

Which makes sense

[desert gust]

so out of the 24 hours in a day, less than 6 of them can accommodate that job, and even still, they show up at scrambled up time frames?

[desert gust]

you do know people can get around it right?

[gloomy ether]

the amount of people that can take the job is infinite within the 10 minutes that it’s up for

[vernal trench]

it was literally produced more than the -10 and THATS a purple rarity

[desert gust]

even a new player who specifically just wants one plane can get around it

[vernal trench]

we are NOT asking for it to be made a dealership vehicle, we want the delivery job rarity to be reduced

[gloomy ether]

Both are still very similar

[vernal trench]

no they aren't

[desert gust]

that’s not how it works right?

[gloomy ether]

2% is already pretty common
Multiply it by 10 servers and thats 20% per cycle

[desert gust]

it’d actually be 60 at most

[gloomy ether]

Have you seen the hoards of people taking them

[desert gust]

even so, that’s assuming all of them are in Lynwood

[vernal trench]

there's no way ANYBODY is gonna server hop 10 servers just to find a plane

[gloomy ether]

No - you can take the job, save the game, and leave for a new server to open a spot for someone else

[desert gust]

yeah and I’m not one of them because I’m not spending my weekend waiting for it unlike them

[gloomy ether]

There’s an entire fucking channel dedicated to notifying people of delivery threads

[noble berry]

But who would do that lol?

[gloomy ether]

My point remains

[desert gust]

that’s still 60 people doofus

[vernal trench]

what about people without discord then?

[gloomy ether]

If the 60th person leaves another person can join

[vernal trench]

we cannot rely on the community 24/7

[gloomy ether]

2% IS NOT rare

[desert gust]

it’d take them a solid minute to, and that’s still assuming they’re at lynwood. Buddy you’re assuming everything’ll happen as though the stars have aligned

[vernal trench]

it is decently rare tho?

[desert gust]

that’s not how probability works

[vernal trench]

it might not be for someone like you

[gloomy ether]

I was literally sitting afk earlier and happened to check the job board and finals week had spawned for the second time in my server

(Orange job)

[vernal trench]

but for newer players without resources who cannot afford to wait around

it's still decently rare

[gloomy ether]

Yes it is
You can add separate probabilities for the same event given they are being run simultaneously for the same instance

10x 2% rolls at the same time is a 20% chance for at least one of those to roll the 2%

[desert gust]

you’re still operating under the assumption all circumstances are perfect

[gloomy ether]

I’m operating under simple probability because the goddamn update has been out for less than a day and I’ve already had 4 787 jobs

[desert gust]

10 times 2% is still 2%

what?

[gloomy ether]

If you roll 10 dices then what is the probability for at least one dice to roll a 6

AT LEAST one

[desert gust]

out of 10 servers, if 2% of them can have the job, that means 2/100 x 10 will have the job. That’s 0.2 servers out of 10 with the job

[vernal trench]

so you think
if a server has a 2% chance of a 788 job
and there are 10 servers
you have a 20% chance of finding a job?
what?

[desert gust]

this makes no sense

[gloomy ether]

That is literally how it works

The chance for a specific server to have the job is 2%

[desert gust]

wisdom has been chasing you, but you are faster

[gloomy ether]

If you add another server to the equation it becomes 4%

[vernal trench]

no?

[gloomy ether]

Because both of them have their own individual probability

[desert gust]

no

[gloomy ether]

How is this hard to comprehend
The event becomes 2x more likely because it is being done twice

[desert gust]

no, it’s the same likelihood

[gloomy ether]

if I roll a dice there is not a 1/6 chance that at least one dice will roll a 6

[desert gust]

it’s like trying to land 2 sixes with 2 dices

you have 12 sides this time, not 6

and you want 2 specific sides

that’s 2/12

which is 1/6

[gloomy ether]

you only need ONE DICE to roll a 6

NOT BOTH

[desert gust]

oh so you just want 1 dice to roll a six? That’d make it 1/12

the most FAVORABLE outcome you have is 1/6

[gloomy ether]

No
Having both dices roll 6 is 1/12
Having one dice roll 6 is 1/3

[hearty flower]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-drama-discorddrama-gif-22395692

[desert gust]

are you hearing yourself?

[vernal trench]

the battle of the mathematicians

[desert gust]

this man is running laps around wisdom, it’ll never catch up to him 💔

[gloomy ether]

I took AP statistics and got an A man😭
Google Cumilative probability

[vernal trench]

I'm still doing the math hang on

[desert gust]

and yet your basics are about as solid as a brick of butter

how did you get an A? How?

[hearty flower]

skill non issue

[rotund socket]

While y'all are arguing, the 788 thread in #aeronautica revealed a server with 788 job

ACA if any spots are left

[gloomy ether]

Smh here’s how it works
1/6 chance to land a 6 on a dice

You want to roll 2 dices and have both land a 6

• thus, you would multiply the probability of the first event by the second event
• the result is 1/36

You want at least one dice to roll 6

• thus, you divide the event by 2 because there is now a higher likelihood of the event happening because there’s more 6th sided faces being rolled and the amount of sides on each dice stays the same

The result for the second equation is 1/3

[desert gust]

wait nvm it’s even rarer

[gloomy ether]

Because people don’t understand cumilative probability

[desert gust]

nuh uh

[noble berry]

FINALLY

[desert gust]

Im going to do the maths

[noble berry]

Got a 788 job

[desert gust]

right now

[gloomy ether]

How is this hard to comprehend

[noble berry]

server ACA

[desert gust]

because you’re wrong and my ego drives me

simple

[gloomy ether]

The number of sides on the dice aren’t changing

You are rolling more dice

That means 2 dice are rolling for 1/6 sides

The chance of at least one dice rolling 6 is thus multiplied by 2 because there’s 2 fucking dice

The same happens with the servers and jobs/dealerships - this is why people serverhop for planes and jobs

[vernal trench]

did someone just nuke the chat

[desert gust]

ok you’re right with the dice, but not with the servers

[gloomy ether]

I used the dice as an analogy because it functions the same as the servers

You are rolling a dice with a 2% chance to land that 6 once every 10 minutes (when the job board refreshes)

PER SERVER

if you add more servers the chance to get that 6 in at least one of them increases

[desert gust]

ok nvm you’re right

but I’m still going to stand by this because yeah

also I’m going to add in some factors

and then this is all assuming you get it first try

if you didn’t, you have to multiply it again and again until you do, and it’ll eat up more of your time

[desert gust]

so best case scenario per day is usually looking like this

and that’s not good imo

[gilded patrol]

This is not acceptable behavior. Cut it out.

[desert gust]

my bad

[cloud oracle]

woah

maths

but yeah make it more common

[desert gust]

make sure to vote for it

[gloomy ether]

Best case scenario you get one in an hour

(I have found 5 jobs already)

[desert gust]

in real life?

[gloomy ether]

The 788

[desert gust]

[gloomy ether]

Just one

[desert gust]

yeah I’m joking around

also

how much time did it take you to do it?

[gloomy ether]

15min

[desert gust]

and how many servers?

[gloomy ether]

none

just sitting around waiting while watching general chat

another way to look is just sit at Lynwood with your cross server on and watch people spawn in for the job, then join their server

[desert gust]

and that took 15 minutes? for some it took 6 hours, for me it took 1 and yielded nothing

[desert gust]

my pc isn’t that good, and even still by the time I join I’d miss out tbh

it takes 5 minutes just to head to the lobby smh

[gloomy ether]

Same here

I was sitting and waiting for the job to load for 5 mins

Still managed to get 2

[desert gust]

you must be absurdly lucky then js

[gloomy ether]

^

[desert gust]

and you assume everyone just does that, or even has stuff that can handle that?

[gloomy ether]

I have the worst laptop known to man

[desert gust]

also this much effort for one plane makes no sense, another reason to make the job more common lmao

[gloomy ether]

It’s not effort you’re just afk lmao

[desert gust]

I got a 10 year old pc with an intel I3, 4 gigs of ram, 256 gb of storage and constant screen issues schlawf

[desert gust]

then its the time

[sinful cosmos]

oh boy

[desert gust]

I don’t want to wait half an hour for another 15 minute flight, especially not for something that doesn’t fit in with the rest of its family’s rarity

[desert gust]

yeah no you say whatever I’ll care but I can’t do much

I am criticizing it tho

[gloomy ether]

My computer randomly freezes when the weather changes
My computer crashes if I hop to too many airports

[desert gust]

and legit the only people disagreeing with me are traders and collectors 💀

[gloomy ether]

(The ones who know what they are talking about)

[desert gust]

(and likely struggle with the concept of “I’m not investing 1/3rd of my day into Roblox”)

[gloomy ether]

The disagreement about probability is what prompted this thread in the first place

The rarity doesn’t need to be adjusted

It’s already common

[desert gust]

with you? Yes

[gloomy ether]

[desert gust]

6 hours for one plane is not common

[gloomy ether]

1 hour*

And 60 people get it at a time

[desert gust]

thats how much time it took one guy

[gloomy ether]

In a week itl be worth 25k wp on market

[desert gust]

assuming you’re at lynwood

[hearty flower]

i got my plane in 5 minutes of waiting

[gloomy ether]

making it more common will make it worth nothing

[gloomy ether]

Just... jump there for 1000 cash???

[desert gust]

so? You’re lucky

[hearty flower]

and youre unlucky

VERY unlucky

[gloomy ether]

You don’t even need to pay for fuel or repairs on the rental plane you just need to go there and fly

😭

[desert gust]

I swear to god you really don’t get it

[gloomy ether]

says the one who didn’t understand cumiliative probability in a thread that is about cumilative probability.. until I tirelessly teached it for an hour

[desert gust]

I. Am. Not. Spending. So. Much. Time. on bogus RNG, that likely doesn’t yield a favorable outcome unless I don’t have a life outside of Aero unlike you

[desert gust]

and I admitted you’re right, but you didn’t take in as many factors as I did

[gloomy ether]

In the time we have spent in this thread, at least one 788 has likely spawned

[desert gust]

most people only have 7 hours for Aero, and for sure they’re spending it on more than just aero

[gloomy ether]

(It spawns at least once within an hour)

[carmine plume]

why you guys arguing about this?? bro it's obviously 50% chance of it happening and 50% chance of it not happening. so easy

[gloomy ether]

Real

[desert gust]

(and is available for only 10 minutes)

[desert gust]

yeah sure atp I give up

I’m still keeping it up here tho since I want it to be more common

[carmine plume]

I don't think we'll change the rarity

imo it's too frequent already

[desert gust]

that sucks

[carmine plume]

shrug can't make everyone happy

[desert gust]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1057793873864294440/1132383880905769000/MDLI9ZSPUD_5RO6AI.gif

[desert gust]

so you choose what is at the moment the minority over the majority from what is shown on the poll? Ehhh sure ig

[carmine plume]

not a democracy

[desert gust]

doesn’t make it any more or less inconsiderate

[gloomy ether]

[carmine plume]

https://tenor.com/view/deer-interview-it-goes-without-saying-gif-12669775144079688963

[desert gust]

https://tenor.com/view/logan-paul-lunchly-from-the-screen-ksi-to-the-screen-to-the-ring-to-the-pen-to-the-king-gif-11174201618250874294

[dense elbow]

this is only because its day 1 and we havent had time for the market to saturate

happens with most planes, even dealer, just not to the same extent

itll become much more common in the coming weeks

[hearty flower]

thats what im saying

https://tenor.com/view/змея-gif-27487573

[plucky prism]

Most regular suggestion drama

over something that could've been solved with patience

lol

[gloomy ether]

[steep pivot]

ah yes, the new player literally just being able to join the game, spawn at lynwood and get one of the BEST long range airliners in the game for free

i don't think so friend

[vernal trench]

suppose the new player gets lucky and gets the job very early
wouldn't he still be able to get the plane for free then?

[gloomy ether]

Erm

You still need jet license

also there’s plenty of better planes

Likely even 990A beats it due purely to speed alone

[vernal trench]

that's literally what I was gonna say next

[gloomy ether]

[vernal trench]

787s are on par with A33Xs when compared with capacity

they're just faster

[steep pivot]

yes

[steep pivot]

yeah, but he would STILL have the 788

[gloomy ether]

there’s also many better options

it would be a good starter one

there’s much larger and faster aircraft

and if you want to start with corporates you need an entirely new plane

Same with cargo

Or racing

[vernal trench]

ive seen a lot of people complain that progression during the early stages of the game is hella boring (some even call it pay to win even tho it's literally not that)

and I'm not saying that everyone should get a free jet

but if the path to getting a decent jet can be made slightly easier and less unpredictable I think it'll help a lot of new people who are just frustrated with the slow early progression

that's just my opinion

[prime herald]

#1335089091288633425

[solid flint]

I've gotten 2 today, I don't think it's really all that rare

[solid flint]

I got SSTs in like a week

[cloud comet]

eo

[quiet wedge]

okay guy who has time to spend in aero

cause not much could afford to spend that much time in a game

[solid flint]

it also had nothing to do with the fact that I got a bunch of planes for free

[quiet wedge]

smh, lucky you

anyways i agree with this suggestion

[solid flint]

I don't

I have 5 787s

some people have 15-20

[quiet wedge]

well cause people could spend time searching for it...

cause i fucking don't

[solid flint]

• right click "Aircraft Delivery Alerts" thread
• notifications settings "All Messages"

done

[quiet wedge]

you missed the point of this fucking suggestion and all the points the op provided

not everyone has discord

and i don't want to be spammed with a bazillion pings just to search for yet another airliner that is somehow even rarer than a concorde

[solid flint]

it's meant to be rarer than it is

[quiet wedge]

and it shouldn't be

this is the point of the suggestion

[solid flint]

but it should

it's just how it is man

[quiet wedge]

who says it should

suggestions exist for a reason

[solid flint]

the devs who made it that way to begin with

[quiet wedge]

you're still missing the point of the suggestion

[quiet wedge]

it's not always "intended"

as hoped

same for the fuel bar depletion

which i object to

[plucky prism]

You guys miss out on the entire point that voids this suggestion:

The value of the 788 is going to drop immensely the more time passes.

Simply because more and more people obtain it.

Sure it's annoying for now but you fail to look at the long-term development of the market for 788s.

[desert gust]

I wasn’t talking about the value necessarily

I’m talking about how much of a pain in the ass it is to get

[plucky prism]

Still voided with the same point.

[prime herald]

#1335089091288633425

[plucky prism]

You can obtain enough from the player market already.

[desert gust]

trading doesn’t make it any less a pain in the ass 💀

[plucky prism]

Well I hate trading too but there's more than enough options out there to get one.

[desert gust]

even with that they’re only available 10 minutes at a time, and many a times, the server crashes because of how many people join in 1 swoop just to get a 787-8

[plucky prism]

I do have to say though, by far the majority of trades however do go smoothly.

[desert gust]

better yet, the server is full before you can join

[prime herald]

it calmed down a lot

[plucky prism]

^

[prime herald]

you can actually obtain one now

[desert gust]

it’s still there though

[desert gust]

I got 2 today

and I’m still standing by what I said

[plucky prism]

I came across it 5 times by now, I only "experienced" the swarm joining twice.

Still didn't bother to get one though.

[desert gust]

that’s cool and all, but anyone specifically looking for one is going to experience it

a lot

also the suggestion got denied 4 hours ago

[prime herald]

i ahvent experience it and i am specifically looking to get multiple

[plucky prism]

And you can, but it's still only a "solution" that'd bring up temporary merits.

[plucky prism]

I know lol

[desert gust]

“temporary””

?

[plucky prism]

Well you'd only really benefit now.

[desert gust]

I’d benefit in the long term too

[plucky prism]

If you were to wait for the market to actually be saturated, there's no need for this whatsoever.

Trust me there will be more than enough soon enough.

[desert gust]

I don’t think so

[plucky prism]

Cool

I do

[desert gust]

ofc you do

[plucky prism]

I wouldn't have said it if I didn't

[desert gust]

it still isn’t any less annoying tbh

not you, but your disagreement

you’re fine ig

[prime herald]

you could make the same argument for any plane of orange rarity

[plucky prism]

Nah I got you dw

[desert gust]

you have way more ways of getting around that

like UP

[prime herald]

still takes much less time to get a 787-8 even without server hopping

[desert gust]

and I now know the others don’t exist it’s just UP

[plucky prism]

Obtaining UP is a hassle

[desert gust]

I find it easy

[plucky prism]

It is easy in itself, yeah

[desert gust]

legit just play the game with the planes you have 💀

[prime herald]

its easy to get up but its a pain in the ass to get 25

[plucky prism]

It'd still realistically take about 2 weeks for me to accumulate 12UP for one blue plane.

[desert gust]

you rarely ever need 25 UP unless you’re like a mega-collector of 2707s or crap like that

[plucky prism]

I just don't have the time to grind

It's always an issue that concerns only certain groups.

If you're one of those that are simply busy with life, you kinda got the L in that case

[desert gust]

well, I’m going to stop arguing over this or at least try to

[noble berry]

yeah, same here lol

[desert gust]

someone else can do it for me, I’m going to make a Kanye themed A380 livery for me airline

[grim owl]

Oh

we calls it another...

Вкус Очка

or

Taste of Anus

Because KFC and Burger King better

[desert gust]

[grim owl]

really

because there are no storage normals

[prime herald]

lmfao

[grim owl]

in russia we really calls it like this

[prime herald]

i dont blame them