Nuclear boats range nitpick

[soft fog]

Nuclear fuel can run for decades, but the crew would run out of food eventually. This would just be a cosmetic change but we could replace the word fuel with supplies because you have way more fuel than what it says on the tin. This ship's ranges is already based on provisions anyway

[worn grove]

?

[soft fog]

the range for the icebreaker has a range of 1800 miles but the crew doesnt have infinte food.

this is not a nessasary feature

[worn grove]

i mean

makes.. sense?

[soft fog]

yeah i think so

[next viper]

range for nuclear powered vehicles takes this into consideration since it would be harder to code it

[deep cedar]

What

The range of the ship is 1800 nmi

That’s what the stat represents

It doesn’t state “crew life: 5 hours” or whatever

[worn grove]

5?

[soft fog]

no like it could be fuel supply for the crew, and only for the nuclear boats, since their range is already a number so large it doesnt really matter

[deep cedar]

Aircraft lifespan is 6 hours on max throttle

[radiant hornet]

i for one shall partake in being the first yes of this here fair post

[soft fog]

the only sail i ever did for that boat was 14 hours long and i have like 92% fuel left

[deep cedar]

then just count the crew’s sustinance to match the fuel duration

They can catch fish to eat

Aeronautifish

[soft fog]

is it only crazy high because its too hard to code otherwise

[deep cedar]

And because having to supply your crew changes the premise of the game

You no longer are flying your own aircraft or sailing your own boat you are managing a crew

[next viper]

mostly this

[deep cedar]

[soft fog]

im rounding but the boat can go for like 120 hours on a tank of gas. a game day is 80 minutes long. thats 90 days

[sterile gulch]

I mean

That’s fair

But how would you do crew replenishment

boat captains now have to hire helicopter players for a job to run cargo to them

[worn grove]

stop at a dock

[worn grove]

[soft fog]

no i mean nothing changes exept it runs on time instead. replace the word fuel with food or supplies and you know what i mean

[worn grove]

that would honestly make for a really fucking cool helicopter mission, actually

I SHOULD SUGGEST THAT

[soft fog]

give boats collision and boom

[deep cedar]

boats have no collision

and adding collision has been denied I think

[sterile gulch]

Make them duh

[deep cedar]

[soft fog]

why though.

[worn grove]

airport reached, beggining bombing run

wrong channel..

[deep cedar]

because Roblox has massive vision lag and collisions between moving boats and aircraft would be different across each client unless the fabric of the game is recorded

[soft fog]

how about it only works when the boat is stopped

[deep cedar]

recoding the physics to eliminate vision lag would instead put lag into your inputs...

[deep cedar]

The boats still have buoyancy and rock in the waves

[soft fog]

you sure

ive never seen that exept for the small ones

[sterile gulch]

Yeah

It’s minimal but there

[worn grove]

i mean as in make it so that "x replacement" is a special mission type for helicopters and VTOL aircraft where you get a set of coordinates somewhere in the sea where a boat will spawn, just like in SaR missions and you have to land on it

[deep cedar]

Would be better to just place an invisible marker brick on the helipads for larger ships and every X ingame days an AI helicopter with no collision will fly to your boat from the horizon, land on the pad, and fly off again to respawn

it would pathfind to said invisible marker thus eliminating need for collision

[worn grove]

way too much coding needed for that

imma be real

and also

you forget the fact that most people afk?

so like nobody will even see it happen

[soft trail]

vision lag? have you ever tried landing on a dev’s aircraft carrier?

[worn grove]

making it a helicopter/vtol mission would be so much better because it's funny

[soft trail]

The physics ruin it all

[worn grove]

one of my favorite things i've ever done with boat collisions was help a mod with his shipping run by literally ramming his boat with my KM, picking it up on top of it like a god damn baby

[soft trail]

the collision

[worn grove]

and carrying him all the way to his destination

saved him like 5 hours of boating

in 20 minutes

[soft trail]

for me its carrierball event

[worn grove]

real

honestly any event that has boats in any way i should show up with my KM and argue it's a maritime vessel

[soft trail]

KM is a boat

[worn grove]

it is

[soft trail]

ekeanoplans are boats

[soft fog]

real seaplanes

[soft trail]

[worn grove]

purposefully going to make hosts add the rule to every event now

[soft fog]

that doesnt affect me cause i cant read. (My Grumman goose is called the HMS jackrabbit even though its just a seaplane)

[worn grove]

!!!!

real!!!!!

[soft fog]

the colors made me think of that name idk why

[worn grove]

noice

[deep cedar]

Less coding than redoing the entire physics engine

[worn grove]

no?

[deep cedar]

The dev is farther ahead than their ship is on the server

[worn grove]

my brother in christ you can literally just reuse the SAR code

i'm not talking about the whole player boats thing

[deep cedar]

I’m talking about having a helicopter landing on your goddamn boat

[worn grove]

i'm talking a helicopter job specifically

[deep cedar]

For resupply

[worn grove]

i'm talking about helicopter landing on PROP BOATS

sob~1

[deep cedar]

zazu

[worn grove]

mobile oil rig

basically

i'm gonna suggest that later

[deep cedar]

Either way this is not gonna be added

[soft fog]

hear me out.

replace the word fuel with supplies

thats it

[worn grove]

maybe in the far future

yeah

right now? def not

[soft fog]

when they add more nuclear boats (carriers)

[deep cedar]

Decent idea

[worn grove]

🔥

[soft fog]

pretty much what i meant the whole time

[deep cedar]

“Have nuclear boats use flight time”

[soft fog]

guess i explained it wrong

[deep cedar]

[soft fog]

yeah ill fix it

[deep cedar]

E

[soft fog]

Nuclear boats range nitpick

[north spruce]

This is already accounted for

Some ships have a max endurance value, which we use to determine range by multiplying it with max speed

If it doesn't have one, we'll assume 90 days of endurance

[soft fog]

does endurance effect anything

[north spruce]

Its just related to crew provisions and how long they can stay at sea

So not ingame

[soft fog]

oh lol

[north spruce]

Endurance isnt an ingame stat, just an IRL information

If thats what you meant

TLDR using nuclear fuel for range you'd have range values in the range of 10k, 20k, 30k kilometers ingame

Using endurance its around 2000 km

[soft fog]

This is on the LK-60ya's wikipedia page

[north spruce]

Still more than enough for any needs

[soft fog]

tldr we need to increase its range

[north spruce]

Huh

[soft fog]

90 days does not equal 6 months 🤓

[north spruce]

I said 90 days if it doesnt have endurance info

LK does indeed use 6 months

[soft fog]

wait so its range is based on the real endurace of the ship

[north spruce]

Yea

[soft fog]

dang

i thought it was way lower than reality

[north spruce]

Endurance is converted to range, and that range is then lowered to Aero scale, like every other vehicle

[soft fog]

oh ok i was about to say

[north spruce]

Otherwise you can have over 150k km range

[soft fog]

well

6 months is about 183 days

thats 14640 minutes in game

244 hours

244 times its speed is like 6400

miles

[north spruce]

If a ship does 20 knots, you do 180(days) x 24(hours) x 20(knots) x 1.852(to convert nmi to km)

[soft fog]

each game day is 80 minutes midnight to midnight

[north spruce]

Then stick the result in our range calculator

[soft fog]

oh is that how all boat range is calculated

[north spruce]

Nah just when using endurance

[soft fog]

very cool

[north spruce]

Normally other boats have a range stat, we use that directly into our formula

[soft fog]

I think my suggestion now is just a cosmetic change to change the word fuel with supplies

cause you have way more fuel than what it says on the tin

[north spruce]

Perhaps that's something to consider

[soft fog]

cool

[kind viper]

??? is this suggestion

thats what i made it bruh it already is

[soft fog]

My suggestion is to change the word fuel with supplies cause you have way more fuel than what it says on the tin

just a few words

[kind viper]

ah the words

fair enough

[soft fog]

words

refuel -> resupply
fuel [remaining] -> provisions or supplies

something like that

[soft trail]

and when supplies end, the boat just loses control and you cant end the job

[soft fog]

I don’t think it’s a good idea to have an intentional softlock feature

[soft trail]

you still can end flight