Enoksen name change

[tame mortar]

I was talking to a friend who's Faroese, and I was introducing them to Aeronautica. Of course Enoksen came up, and they said they find the representation very cool, but also consider it disrespectful that it has a Danish name as opposed to an actual Faroese name.

I think that's a very good point. Even in real life I believe the name Faroe comes from Faroese.

I know it couldn't have been done in the last update because that changed the name of another airport, but this seems pretty easy to change, at least in game, in the next update.

I get it if people are attached to the name, but I think it's a change that eventually has to be made, so better to do it fast especially since the entire region was overhauled recently.

clarifications because i can't edit on mobile:

• idk about the "disrespectful" wording, they did actually find it very disrespectful but also i don't want people to see my friend as some sjw straw figure when this is a real person being disappointed
• i was about to add "correct me if i'm wrong" to the second paragraph, but i googled it, and wikipedia does say faroe, or at least "Føroyar", is an endonym so i was right 😎

[tame sequoia]

I saw that edit

[tame mortar]

yeah i edited it

why

[maiden fable]

you cant edit on mobiel, huh

[tame mortar]

you can't edit the top post

[maiden fable]

ah

[tame mortar]

you can edit the comments

[maiden fable]

thats fair

[tame mortar]

yeah

weird bug

[tame sequoia]

well idk why remove "it should be changed as soon as possible so people don't get attached to it"

[tame mortar]

because i already said that in the post

[muted dawn]

[tame mortar]

idk i just edit things to make things less redundant

[tame mortar]

hello :)

[tame sequoia]

sorry i forgot to put my bifocals in

[muted dawn]

@jolly wharf

[tame mortar]

who

[muted dawn]

the name enoksen is a classic

old as time

[tame mortar]

class?

ahh

[muted dawn]

The airport has always been named enoksen

[tame mortar]

but was it based on the faroes before

and what about zhoudaijiang

[tame sequoia]

was it wingz world

I don't remember if it was or not my memories from ten years ago aren't very good

[tame mortar]

i think if you can change the shape of the islands even though they've always looked like that then the name would be easier

[tame sequoia]

zhoudajiang is newer tho and so was auchenburg

[muted dawn]

No

[tame mortar]

exactly

so it was fine before

but now it's not

[muted dawn]

the terrain was ass

it needed a remodel

[tame mortar]

so is the name

[tame sequoia]

Idk it feels rather arbitrary

[muted dawn]

it wasn’t on purpose to offend your friend

the name enoksen is one of the originals

[tame mortar]

yeah and the earth also goes around the sun

[maiden fable]

with all due respect for your friend's culture, why are you so heated up about a name in a Roblox game that averaged 300 players

[twin flame]

I dislike suggestion because Enoksen

[tame mortar]

this isn't over the name, it's over the fact that people think this is about sjw and racism when i'm trying to make a suggestion about paralleling real life

just because i used the word "disrespectful"

and it is disrespectful

[twin flame]

._.

I won't allow enok's name being changed just because a single person didn't like it

[tame mortar]

yeah that's the thing

that's the thing i'm saying isn't what's happening

[jolly wharf]

i wouldnt be opposed to renaming it, im just not from the Faroe islands so id have to figure out what to name it

[tame mortar]

i should never have talked about my friend

it's not about my friend being offended

[abstract ledge]

the devs definitely got themselves into a tough spot by remodeling enoksen into the faroe islands even though enoksen is dutch name

[tame sequoia]

then why bring it up

[jolly wharf]

though i am travelling there next year

[tame mortar]

because i think the name should change

[twin flame]

no

[abstract ledge]

but changing the name is much easier than giving enoksen another remodel

[tame mortar]

because it is not a faroese name

[tame mortar]

exactly

[tame sequoia]

or it can just be not changed

[tame mortar]

or it can just be changed

[maiden fable]

Nah it's chill, it just 100% seems to me like your friend got angry that a name in some random game was not properly up to code with his/her cultural standards

[jolly wharf]

didnt even know it was danish, i only know it as a Scandinavian watch company

[muted dawn]

Lmao

Bro

[maiden fable]

If there was a petition to change it and people really wanted it, by all means change it whatever

[muted dawn]

why the fuck does this matter then

[abstract ledge]

lol fair

[jolly wharf]

idk but personally i trhink itd be cool if it was a faroe name

will discuss with other map devs

the Enoksen name comes from long before my time here

[maiden fable]

indeed

[muted dawn]

ok but enoksen is one of the aero classic names

[maiden fable]

also indeed

[muted dawn]

It should still be in game somewhere

[tame mortar]

i literally just made a suggestion that the faroese region could be named a faroese name, but i used the word "disrespectful" and now everyone thinks this is about sjws being upset

[twin flame]

Why don't we not change the name

[maiden fable]

Yes I do believe that's what happened

[jolly wharf]

i think its a good suggestion so idk

[tame mortar]

😎

[abstract ledge]

that’s not an argument but I’m sure you are aware

[maiden fable]

Cause your friend being offended unfortunately makes you sound like a karen; Changing it to a Faroe name does sound neat it more than one person are up for it

[jolly wharf]

though yk faroe islands is kind of part of denmark ☝️

[tame mortar]

it's a dutch name tho apparently

[tame sequoia]

if the name were to be changed i would like for it to at least be moved somewhere else

[jolly wharf]

oh you said danish in your OP

[maiden fable]

i concur, Enoksen is a part of Aero history

[tame mortar]

yeah i was confused

[maiden fable]

with spartan

[tame mortar]

that's fair

but also people hate the old terrain so idk

[twin flame]

yeh, I just liked the enok's name since it's been there when I joined Aero, I remember crashing my first sst there due to speed

[maiden fable]

i think life is roblox

[muted dawn]

I am

[maiden fable]

you are roblox

[indigo ingot]

what the sigma

[maiden fable]

beautiful

[tame mortar]

this community

[abstract ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/life-is-roblox-life-roblox-is-dj-khaled-gif-8271039727770837203

[maiden fable]

https://tenor.com/view/nice-meme-keanu-reeves-knife-nice-meme-id-like-to-borrow-it-gif-25873425

[tame mortar]

also people keep saying "more than one person", there are already three people here who agree

[maiden fable]

more than one as in the majority, "one" is a stand-in for a very small percentage

[tame mortar]

maybe we should check if it is small

[maiden fable]

Yeah that's what I said earlier

[tame mortar]

yes

but since half the mods here think this is about sjws being upset, the poll will never happen

[maiden fable]

I really don't think that's what it's about, that was just first impressions

[tame mortar]

yeah it's not

[tame sequoia]

you keep saying that but I've never seen anyone else say that except you

[maiden fable]

They just dont want to change a long-standing name of a game for something a guy said

[tame mortar]

i still think there should be a poll

[maiden fable]

not to be using "a guy" in any meaningful way

[maiden fable]

sure why not

[tame mortar]

but you're not a mod

or do you mean like

[tame sequoia]

this suggestion is a poll

[maiden fable]

Didnt say I was making the poll

[tame mortar]

in this thread

[maiden fable]

just that I agree there could be a poll

[tame mortar]

i mean according to this then there are more people who agree

[tame sequoia]

yeah by one person currently out of seven people who have voted so far

[maiden fable]

I would like to point out that most suggestions that get accepted have ~100+ 'yes' reactions

this one is equal nos and yesses

[tame sequoia]

oh and it's a tie now

[maiden fable]

imma go, i wish you luck getting that suggestion passed

[tame mortar]

idk why you're so emotional about the fact that my opinion deserves to be unpopular

[tame mortar]

thank u ...

[tame sequoia]

I'm not being emotional I think you're just reading into what I'm saying too much

[tame mortar]

ok

[jolly wharf]

dunno why this blew up into a passive aggressive argument, but i dont really get why it had to

guy just proposed a change that is completely justified, it feels nice to have your country properly represented

i got DMs when making Aska from Icelandic folks that where happy about their country getting represented in the game they like

idk if this will pass because as was said Enoksen has a certain nostalgic ring to both players and developers, but i will discuss it with dev staff

[maiden fable]

i dont think it was passive aggressive tbh

[jolly wharf]

was this sarcastic

[maiden fable]

no dude

I was being a good sport, I got myself into a debate and I wanted to get out respectfully

[jolly wharf]

alright well the latter of what i said stands

[maiden fable]

indeed it does

[tame mortar]

i didn't take it as sarcastic, you're good

[maiden fable]

[jolly wharf]

🙏

[twin flame]

if it gets changed, Im just gonna call it Enok anyways

[west hatch]

zhou######## got the renamed approved because a couple of us chinese players kept suggesting n proposing it

n got the dev that made the airport to sign off on it

[tame mortar]

why ping 😭

[west hatch]

you asked

[tame mortar]

yes 😭 true

[twin flame]

周代疆

[silk sequoia]

[jade tinsel]

Just turn enoksen into romania

Simple

[silk sequoia]

[south oak]

If enoksen isn't a Faroese name, just remodel enoksen to look like Copenhagen Int.

[prime tapir]

[static leaf]

[grizzled quail]

why

[west hatch]

because zhou######## makes no sense in chinese??

[grizzled quail]

most place names makes no sense

[gusty merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/keanu-reeves-knife-meme-gif-7454733455937080196

[west hatch]

and that's exactly why we got it changed

[fleet verge]

it was named Enoksen when it was on a fictional island with a newzealand airport :/

so why wasnt it an issue then lol

at the end of the day, aero is a fictional game with a fictional map

yes places are based off places in real life, but its still fictional places etc

[silk sequoia]

[tame mortar]

why are people still complaining that i made a suggestion 😭 if enough people are opposed to it then why isn't it a rule that you shouldn't suggest name changes

[junior onyx]

What if we keep the airport name

BUT

Rename the landmass

In lore and stuff

We have to many airports named after their surrounding city

Would be cool if we had smth like “James Bartholomew Esquire the III International Airport”

[fallen pivot]

drop "Enclaved International" there as well

[junior onyx]

Enclavicus thy developericus regional airport

[gray axle]

This idea sounds better

Because why would we rename a classic island which almost everyone knows about because one person doesn't like it

[tame mortar]

just make it a rule that you can't suggest name changes at this point, this seems very inefficient

[final hull]

this is quite literally the first ever name change suggestion ive ever seen? things get added to rejected suggestions because they get asked often and are denied everytime.

Furthermore, its possible an airport needs a name change in the future due to more pressing reasons than "[my friend] consider[s] it disrespectful that it has a Danish name as opposed to an actual Faroese name", which, while being a valid opinion, does not really impact the game or differ from how other airports are named... wtf does Oconee mean in english? or Capriano in italian? (goat-esque??) or Cantaloa in portuguese? (literally no meaning) etc etc.

tldr its a non-issue

[abstract ledge]

the main issue isn’t that one person found it disrespectful, the issue is that it’s a misrepresentation of the Faroe Islands

[final hull]

a lot of airports in aero are "misrepresented" because theyre remodelled after an airport in a different country and the name stays the same

[twin flame]

Name is just a name anyways, it's not always necessary to have a meaning behind it, it just exists so that we know that is it

[abstract ledge]

that’s true, but an airport being misrepresented is different from an entire country being misrepresented

[abstract ledge]

so you wouldn’t mind if the name got changed then?

after all, a name is just a name

[twin flame]

Maybe, I will still call it Enoksen even if it gets changed

since it's "Denied for now", I guess it won't happen for now

[final hull]

we can always change the archipelago name if thats the case?

[bleak brook]

sort of an in-between situation but my 2 cents being it would definitely be nice if the airport does somewhat represent the region too, kind of like how yunzhou aligns with chinese or udyanapura will line up with malay etc, does add that touch

so if the name can better represent the region I'd endorse it, but I do concur that if to be, enoksen's name can be handed to another airport

[unique radish]

Back in the day where Enoksen was a different place.

[twin flame]

tintrades

[hushed oyster]

Or,,, Enoksen can be the name of the airport,,, and the island is named something else.

Even though, I prefer Enoksen to stay.

[faint shell]

Agreed

[twin flame]

Agreed

[maiden fable]

https://tenor.com/view/well-in-that-case-yo-mama-well-case-gif-14405034452477075435

[fallen pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/let-that-sink-in-let-that-sink-in-meme-let-that-sink-gif-26164212

[maiden fable]

i refuse

[rugged walrus]

the good ol days when there is a big hill between you and the runway when coming in from the south

[static leaf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNyEKBP8RK4

not to brag or anything but umm

[faint shell]

What

What are you bragging about

[obtuse vessel]

you overran the runway

[faint shell]

Dawg is like “not to brag” posts the worst landing in the history of mankind