"Welcome to the chat room!" consecutive loadings, can't bypass duplicate message. | 7TV | Page 1

untold jungle May 16, 2025, 12:39 PM

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Hello, I have been getting this bug for the last few days.
I enter the chat and I receive the usual "Welcome to the chat room!" .
But right after that message the chat restarts, clean previous messages it just showed from chat history and shows again "Welcome to the chat room!"

Other issue I tested is that I can type the same emote 2 different times, meaning that the "Bypass Duplicate Message Check" option works.
However once the chat loads again with that message, trying the same thing leaves me with the "Your message was not sent because it is identical to the previous one you sent, less than 30 seconds ago."
I can't also use "Up Key" to go back to my previous message, it shows no history of it.

I have tried "/refresh" option in chat, remove and add back 7TV and restart Google Chrome.
Using 3.0.15.1000 nightly version.

void ether May 16, 2025, 7:13 PM

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What browser are you usiing?

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For me it works fine. I don't understand why it won't work for you

untold jungle May 17, 2025, 4:00 PM

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I'm using google chrome on Windows

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Today so far hasn't happen but will update if it starts again

untold jungle May 17, 2025, 6:24 PM

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Just started getting it again
I only have one stream open and so far happened 3 times, all of a sudden chat disappears and refreshes with that message showing.
I reset chrome and when trying to type the same emote twice it popped up the option of "Would you like to bypass..." from 7TV which I clicked as Yes (popped up because of the reset which cleaned previous settings). I then tried to send and got the "Your message was not sent because it is identical to the previous one you sent, less than 30 seconds ago."

waxen cairn May 17, 2025, 6:24 PM

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same for me on brave, when I refresh twitch it loads up chat and then reloads it for some reason for second time

void ether May 17, 2025, 7:04 PM

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Twitch for some reason made their chat reload twice. ,For no specific reasons. This breaks 7tv and almost any other extention that interacts with chat

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But currently testing 7TV Nightly on Brave and it works fine

untold jungle May 17, 2025, 7:55 PM

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void ether Twitch for some reason made their chat reload twice. ,For no specific reasons. T...

Yeah I'm keeping an eye on this ticket and other one similar
From my side I only have this extension

void ether May 17, 2025, 7:56 PM

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untold jungle Yeah I'm keeping an eye on this ticket and other one similar From my side I only...

Can you try nightly?

untold jungle May 17, 2025, 7:57 PM

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void ether Can you try nightly?

I am on nightly

void ether May 17, 2025, 7:57 PM

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Ok can you try and clear 7tv db?

untold jungle May 17, 2025, 7:59 PM

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void ether Ok can you try and clear 7tv db?

I cleared it, restart chrome and I reuploaded my 7tv settings

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I will keep an eye if this triggers but on the first 3 minutes nothing

void ether May 17, 2025, 9:38 PM

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Lemme know if you face the issue gaian

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pretty odd no joke

radiant notch May 17, 2025, 10:49 PM

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void ether Ok can you try and clear 7tv db?

How to clear the 7tv db? I want to try to see if I can resolve this bug too

winged vigil May 18, 2025, 3:45 PM

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radiant notch How to clear the 7tv db? I want to try to see if I can resolve this bug too

indexedDB.deleteDatabase("seventv") in browser console on twitch

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ctrl+shift+j will open it

radiant notch May 18, 2025, 4:12 PM

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winged vigil ctrl+shift+j will open it

Thanks

radiant notch May 18, 2025, 4:58 PM

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@winged vigil help me, I'm in opera right now and have this open, exactly what i nee to delete?

winged vigil May 18, 2025, 4:59 PM

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if you want to reset db, type what I said in the console

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there should be input box below

radiant notch May 18, 2025, 5:00 PM

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but where I type?

winged vigil May 18, 2025, 5:02 PM

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radiant notch May 18, 2025, 5:03 PM

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perfect

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now i see this

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@winged vigil how to close Indexed?

winged vigil May 18, 2025, 5:07 PM

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you removed it, f5 and it will be recreated

radiant notch May 18, 2025, 5:08 PM

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ok, I see now

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Ok, for now work

untold jungle May 18, 2025, 6:04 PM

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winged vigil `indexedDB.deleteDatabase("seventv")` in browser console on twitch

I got the same issue as mentioned before so I have used this command right now on Chrome
It cleared all, and when trying to type the same message twice it showed the popup to enable bypass duplicate message, I choose yes and despite that it still shows me the warning regarding being same message typed in last 30 seconds.

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I decided to remove extension, run same command
Opened chrome, installed Nightly, imported previous 7TV settings which allow to bypass message
This was the result:

void ether May 18, 2025, 6:16 PM

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untold jungle I decided to remove extension, run same command Opened chrome, installed Nightly...

Are you down to test this with me in ftk789_bot ?

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Go there and try typing anything. then try out the feature

untold jungle May 18, 2025, 6:17 PM

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void ether Are you down to test this with me in ftk789_bot ?

Sure, will go there

void ether May 18, 2025, 6:17 PM

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Will be waiting

untold jungle May 18, 2025, 6:18 PM

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void ether Will be waiting

void ether May 18, 2025, 6:18 PM

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But if you look here

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7TV uses the right thing

untold jungle May 18, 2025, 6:18 PM

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void ether May 18, 2025, 6:18 PM

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( The white square is the invicible character )

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I'm pretty sure it's something with Twitch IRC

untold jungle May 18, 2025, 6:19 PM

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So then let me ask, do you still get the messages despite this warning

void ether May 18, 2025, 6:19 PM

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untold jungle

I seee....

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I see the issue

untold jungle May 18, 2025, 6:19 PM

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Or you never get them?

void ether May 18, 2025, 6:19 PM

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hold on

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This caused the issue

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I think they might have changed their interval check on how fast a message can be sent Hmm

untold jungle May 18, 2025, 6:20 PM

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I just spammed without breaks

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And all went to your chat without warning

void ether May 18, 2025, 6:20 PM

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So what happend there is that. You sent the normal Stare without the charatcer. But then 7tv now will use with character cuz you already used without ( that's how it works ) But Twitch will say it's the same message

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I guess I can increase the interval a bit more on extention

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That way " too quickly " error doesn't come up by twitch Hmm

untold jungle May 18, 2025, 6:22 PM

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I tried on a stream, 5 second break between same message, no issues

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However now I got the issue of the second "Welcome to the chat room!"

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And now it doesn't allow me to type same messages

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Same message, 5 second break between same message (after second welcome to chat message), I got the twitch warning.

void ether May 18, 2025, 6:25 PM

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untold jungle However now I got the issue of the second "Welcome to the chat room!"

That's a Twitch issue not us

untold jungle May 18, 2025, 6:25 PM

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Sadge

void ether May 18, 2025, 6:25 PM

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Twitch reloads chat after like 5-10 seconds when the page is loaded

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Which resets the chat view

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I don't know why they do that yet. But I hope they fix it soon

untold jungle May 18, 2025, 6:26 PM

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I reopened the stream and I got this immediately
Sometimes takes time, sometimes its immediate

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And sometimes the chat loads, goes blank and reopens

void ether May 18, 2025, 6:26 PM

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Yet again. this is the same issue by Twitch

untold jungle May 18, 2025, 6:26 PM

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Which happened right now OMEGALUL

void ether May 18, 2025, 6:26 PM

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It happens to everyone

untold jungle May 18, 2025, 6:26 PM

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Oh well, unlucky but at least I know it's not from 7TV side

void ether May 18, 2025, 6:26 PM

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Even with extention off. The chat for some reason wil reload after 5 seconds of load

void ether May 18, 2025, 6:27 PM

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untold jungle Oh well, unlucky but at least I know it's not from 7TV side

hesRight

untold jungle May 18, 2025, 6:27 PM

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Hmm But if 7tv sends a different message because of that invisible character

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Shouldnt it always work even if it reloads chat?

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Hmm

void ether May 18, 2025, 6:27 PM

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No

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Because when Twitch reloads the chat. 7TV Injection also reloads. Which resets the "memory" of if the last msg had the invis character or not

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Idk how to explain it Pfftt

untold jungle May 18, 2025, 6:28 PM

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I get it don't worry, basically 7TV doesn't have a memory of a previous message
So it just sends the message without the invisible character

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Being stuck on the same message

void ether May 18, 2025, 6:29 PM

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7tv doens't have a memory of the last sent msg. But it just knows ( oh last msg was sent with invis, so let's remove it with this one ) And so on

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ping-pong

untold jungle May 18, 2025, 6:30 PM

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forsenAlright But what if I type a new different message, which gets saved on this new memory
Then it should now be saved and allow next message to be sent to bypass

void ether May 18, 2025, 6:30 PM

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So if you sent buh when the chat just loaded. 7tv will send it without invis. But when Twitch reloads their chat. 7tv extention also reloads the injection. Then when you send buh agian. It'll also not have invis cuz it doens't know that injection reloaded. Basically states and variables reset

void ether May 18, 2025, 6:30 PM

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untold jungle <:forsenAlright:1319582514565877791> But what if I type a new different message,...

Yea

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So after twitch reload

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if you type buh twice or however times it should work

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Only issue is that seems that twitch changed their "too quickly " trigger. Meaning I'll have to look into increasing the spam interval maybe

untold jungle May 18, 2025, 6:31 PM

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It also seems to not trigger in offline chats even if those are active

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At least from me moving around

void ether May 18, 2025, 6:32 PM

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Trigger as in the reload ?

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Yes

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it doesn't reload in offline chats

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Idk why but Twitch did something with their chat component to reload after x interval of time. Idk why. but 4Shrug

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it might be fixed sometime soon I'm sure of that

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clue TeaTime

untold jungle May 18, 2025, 6:33 PM

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Yeah I tried Stare twice, got the reload just now
I then typed " vibE " once, waited 15 seconds, typed again and got same warning

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Twich trying to cancel 7TV bypass forsenDespair

void ether May 18, 2025, 6:34 PM

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Pfftt

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But from the test we did

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It works fine

untold jungle May 18, 2025, 6:36 PM

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Now I typed a message, closed and reopen chrome
Entered chat, got immediate 2 messages of "Welcome to the chat room!"
Typed same message and got warning
Then all of a sudden chat went blank, appeared again with a new "Welcome to the chat!" but it deleted from my chat the previous 2 welcome messages
Typed same message and got warning

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docnotL

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Oh well, thanks for all the time and help ftk789 hug
I hope Twitch either rollsback or you guys find a wayaround Okayeg

void ether May 18, 2025, 6:38 PM

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untold jungle Now I typed a message, closed and reopen chrome Entered chat, got immediate 2 me...

Yep expected

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It's just 7tv

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After reload i think it shouljd work fine with another msg

void ether May 18, 2025, 6:38 PM

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untold jungle Oh well, thanks for all the time and help ftk789 <:hug:1094912058392313887> I h...

Imma maybe try and edit the interval time of our ctrl + enter cuz it seems it triggers too quicly sometimes

untold jungle May 18, 2025, 6:39 PM

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void ether After reload i think it shouljd work fine with another msg

I kept the chat open after that reload
I tried different message, waited 15 seconds, typed that same message again and got the warning

void ether May 18, 2025, 6:39 PM

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THat's the thing

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it happens as soon as you caht

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for some reason

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So if you say anything

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then make it reload

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then do the spam thing. It should work fine with anothenr msg

untold jungle May 18, 2025, 6:40 PM

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void ether then do the spam thing. It should work fine with anothenr msg

Didnt work sadly Sadge

void ether May 18, 2025, 6:40 PM

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holup lemme test it out

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Idk why but it works for me

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i get the warning yes

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But it doens't bother since I only get it once

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then it keeps going normally

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Works perfectly fine for me thinking

untold jungle May 18, 2025, 6:42 PM

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Typed Stare -> Welcome to the chat room! -> Welcome to the chat room! -> Typed Stare before 30 seconds and didn't work -> Weird chat clear, got it reloaded and it doesnt show previous 2 welcome messages -> Typed Stare and same warning -> Changed to PagMan and typed it -> Type again PagMan after 15 seconds and got warning -> Spammed it and still got warning

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void ether May 18, 2025, 6:43 PM

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15 seconds?

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You have to wait 30 seconds

untold jungle May 18, 2025, 6:43 PM

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Opening my username by clicking my name shows this:

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void ether May 18, 2025, 6:43 PM

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Wait so it worked?

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it works but you still get the error

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?

untold jungle May 18, 2025, 6:44 PM

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Could be the issue

void ether May 18, 2025, 6:44 PM

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Well that's Twitch looks like

untold jungle May 18, 2025, 6:44 PM

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I'm gonna open a incognito page, open same stream and check if I see it

void ether May 18, 2025, 6:44 PM

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good test

untold jungle May 18, 2025, 6:46 PM

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First image: Clicking my username after trying to spam same emote (different from one before reload).
Second image: Chat when I tried to spam emote
Third image: Incognito mode

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It seems it doesn't work from my view of chat or others but clicking my username it still stores that I typed such messages

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I can't really verify if it indeed stores my messages on the logs because only way was to be a moderator and they already can spam same message without the warning

void ether May 18, 2025, 6:48 PM

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Well moderators never get the warning regardless

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And VIP's

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But looks like twitch issue?

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Since that msg get's sent by twitch

untold jungle May 18, 2025, 6:50 PM

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So tldr: Twitch is being donk and doesn't allow us to bypass the warning for same messages

void ether May 18, 2025, 6:51 PM

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I think so

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But I'll keep testing around and see if there's a solution WE can do. or we just have to wait Pfftt

untold jungle May 18, 2025, 6:51 PM

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Yeah I opened a stream where I am a moderator

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And so far no reload at all

void ether May 18, 2025, 6:51 PM

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yea it works fine right?

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It's an odd thing I don't understand

untold jungle May 18, 2025, 6:51 PM

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I spammed a bit just trying to trigger something and nothing

void ether May 18, 2025, 6:52 PM

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Twitch is doing lots of uipdates including the new eventAPI as well

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So idk what they are doing specifically

untold jungle May 18, 2025, 6:53 PM

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Weird question but can you try using a different invisible emote?

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What if Twitch found a way to ignore this invisible emote from a message and then tests if the 2 messages are the same

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They could in theory have a memory of our last message (on a same way like 7TV? ) and when you type a new message they verify through their code if it includes that same invisible emote
Which if it does, it triggers their warning and doesn't send the message

void ether May 18, 2025, 6:54 PM

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untold jungle Weird question but can you try using a different invisible emote?

I think that's the only valid one that we can use Hmm

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Not sure though

void ether May 18, 2025, 6:54 PM

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untold jungle What if Twitch found a way to ignore this invisible emote from a message and the...

No. Twitch wouldn't just do such a thing to ruin it

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Cuz as you can tell. it works fine if you do it slowly

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It'll do the bypass

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But on spam something goes odd for no reason

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And that's what i'm trying to do

untold jungle May 18, 2025, 6:55 PM

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I mean it happened even with some delay between messages on my side

void ether May 18, 2025, 6:55 PM

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As a mod Pfftt

untold jungle May 18, 2025, 6:56 PM

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OMEGAKEKWBUTSHORT

void ether May 18, 2025, 6:56 PM

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It's just twitch

untold jungle May 18, 2025, 6:56 PM

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I feel maybe we could verify if Twitch keeps a memory of our last message or if it does any check for that invisible emote Hmm
And from then 7TV could try to have a workaround for it

void ether May 18, 2025, 6:57 PM

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hold on

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43

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Still get the same error

untold jungle May 18, 2025, 6:59 PM

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Hmm

void ether May 18, 2025, 6:59 PM

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I'll look more into this with intervals and play around more

untold jungle May 18, 2025, 6:59 PM

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forsenAlright

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If you need me to do any testing or something feel free to message me here
And thanks for all the help and support hug

void ether May 18, 2025, 7:00 PM

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I will 100%

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good tester hesRight

void ether May 18, 2025, 7:00 PM

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untold jungle If you need me to do any testing or something feel free to message me here And t...

Any problem you face. Just report here and we'll try to help FeelsOkayMan

pastel stone May 19, 2025, 2:28 PM

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any fixes? forsenAlright

void ether May 19, 2025, 3:00 PM

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Twitch

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they need to fix the chat refresh thing they have.

rancid flower May 20, 2025, 4:05 PM

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the refreshing chat been happening my chrome browser as well for the past week or so
i tried on firefox too, the same reloading interface happens there
so its not browser related
so it must be a site issue
something on twitch is reloading the entire chat related interface
the forced refresh of the chatting interface is also killing my settings and configurations in my extension
this wasn't an issue weeks ago
some change to the site, is making chat and related extensions reload a layer reverting chat and video player to a state before the extensions enhancements
the only way i have been able to alleviate the reloading bug temporarily is to right after loading the stream i desire to watch, is to click an unrelated page on twitch to load after the bugged chat refresh happens, then quickly navigate button to the previous page i wanted to watch. then it will remain in the functioning desired state.
although i have noticed after doing the temp fix, the header page title is stuck on the previous pages name.
twitch devlog is being super verbose with a constantly rising number of errors:

void ether May 20, 2025, 5:26 PM

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It's literally not in our hands

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They refresh it on different occasions. For me sometimes it refreshes 4 times

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I'm still investigating if we are the cause or not. They also refresh without our extention being active. But I'll look for a solution for this

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Temporary solution that is.

untold jungle May 22, 2025, 3:56 PM

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@void ether any update regarding not bypassing duplicate message? Okayeg

void ether May 22, 2025, 4:20 PM

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Nope

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sadly

#"Welcome to the chat room!" consecutive loadings, can't bypass duplicate message.