New tool like Migrate but for picking variations of already existing 7tv emote sets

[dusk kindle]

Instead of importing from BetterTTV, it would be cool to be able to select an already existing emote set, and start picking different versions of the emotes in that 7tv emote set, that way we can switch between halloween and christmas emotes super quickly and export them into a new emote set

[nocturne wind]

however i think in the future they'll just tag emotes as halloween/christmas/seasonal and have one automatically created

[torn terrace]

instead of? no more migration ❌

[dusk kindle]

i think it should be a different tool since you're not really migrating

[low hearth]

wdym most of the event ones are tagged 'halloween' or stuff related to xmas

[torn terrace]

im just nitpicking cause "instead of" implies it would replace migration

[dusk kindle]

ooo

[nocturne wind]

what

[dusk kindle]

i think an official tag for a tool like this would make things easier

[low hearth]

you wrote that people will tag emotes with tags related to events

but they already do so

[torn terrace]

i tried doing tags for about 7 minutes when we first planned the halloween set and i am not on board with manually tagging everything after the fact

[low hearth]

most people did so themselves though

[torn terrace]

"creating a set from tags" seems excessive as it would just be all emotes existing within the "halloween" tag search

yes trippy, we were using a special tag people were gonna use, but we ditched that idea very fast

[low hearth]

is that why some emotes have 'halloween 2022'?

[nocturne wind]

i bet at some point atol can just apply a tag onto all emotes in a set

[torn terrace]

yes exactly trippy

[nocturne wind]

or it could labeled as "Seasonal" or whatever just like emotes are labeled as global, zero-width, and trending

[torn terrace]

i dont think sets and tags need to work in tandem, they can exist and work without one another

[dusk kindle]

maybe official tags like these could be offered when posting an emote

[torn terrace]

lets say a migration type tool is used for seasonals, if a "halloween set" is presented to choose emotes from, it wont really matter to the user if the emotes are tagged or not

[nocturne wind]

^

[torn terrace]

that would be abused so fucking fast

[dusk kindle]

when the mods approve an emote they can check that

[nocturne wind]

i think a mod would need to approve it

yea

[torn terrace]

we only got tags introduced to mod queue literally yesterday

[low hearth]

i honestly think that winter is a better tag than christmas

[dusk kindle]

just an idea

[torn terrace]

yea for sure, i dont mean to shoot any of you down, just trying to stay realistic with my own experiences

[nocturne wind]

but the point i was making is that it would make what this suggestion post was originally suggesting much easier

to automate at least

[dusk kindle]

yeah

[torn terrace]

its definitely worth considering

its not a bad suggestion at all

[dusk kindle]

maybe in this tool you can search tags and it would show 5 variations with emotes using that tag

[torn terrace]

you can just search tags on the website

you dont need a special tool to search for tags

thats where i think it gets a bit overcomplicated

[dusk kindle]

yeah but this makes the process easier

you can change your entire emote set

in minutes

[torn terrace]

a dedicated space to search "halloween"

[dusk kindle]

i don't think you see the vision

like right now you have to do 1 by 1

[torn terrace]

getting multiple tag search doesnt need a dedicated space either

which for all i know is planned anyway

so like "halloween feelsbadman"

[nocturne wind]

i think what he means

for an emote name with a gazillion variations, you could add a tag filter to help narrow down exactly what variation you're trying to find

[dusk kindle]

exactly

[torn terrace]

so multiple tag search? i dont understand how itd be different?

[nocturne wind]

however it's not completely foolproof bc some people don't add tags

[nocturne wind]

?

we're just trying to suggest things for the migration tool to allow people to get all the correct emotes added in

[torn terrace]

and im discussing it with you

[nocturne wind]

but you're talking about things outside of the migration tool

like sure you could search it yourself and find the right one but why do all that when you can do it all in the migration tool at once

[torn terrace]

yes because what youre essentially describing is a multiple tag search which in itself doesnt need a dedicated space

[dusk kindle]

the migration tool offers you 5 variations of each emote inside bttv, in this suggestion i talk about how this feature would be useful if we were able to use it with already existing 7tv emote set, that way, i can pick between the emotes i already have on 7tv, and start selecting the variations i want, all in minutes instead of having to go 1 by 1

[nocturne wind]

what if you have 50 emotes from bttv that are a different niche variation and that don't come up in the 5 given emotes

[torn terrace]

u dont pick any of the suggested emotes

[nocturne wind]

[dusk kindle]

?

[nocturne wind]

useless migration tool then

[torn terrace]

ok dude

[low hearth]

its not useless cuz in all other instances it works well

[nocturne wind]

well i know lol

[low hearth]

instead of manually switching 50 emotes you only manually switch 1

[nocturne wind]

i'm just suggesting a simple addition to solve a potential issue

[torn terrace]

if youre talking about changing between emotes youve already manually added into different sets i understand a bit more

[dusk kindle]

yesss

[low hearth]

still, lacking a feature doesnt make it useless

[nocturne wind]

that's the original suggestion yea

[nocturne wind]

i know but it would be useless for that theoretical person

[dusk kindle]

but as hyruge says, sometimes it shows you 5 variations that don't include what you're looking for

that's why we're also suggesting letting users search tags

[nocturne wind]

or at the very least give you an option to just choose from the full search list

[dusk kindle]

that way if i want to search for halloween emotes, i can use that tool and also search for the tag halloween in order to (hopefully) find halloween variations

[low hearth]

but if you're a new 7tv user thats coming from bttv, you dont know what tags are. you just need a quick and easy tool to move your emotes

[dusk kindle]

it would be a different tool

[low hearth]

later on you can learn more 7tv stuff, like tags and stuff

[torn terrace]

i still think this just sounds like multiple tag search, but i understand wanting it to be presented to you in an easier way

[nocturne wind]

wdym by multiple tag search

[torn terrace]

i have already described that

[nocturne wind]

this?

[torn terrace]

no, thats what im interpreting some of this as

multiple tag search literally just means searching for multiple tags so "omegadance" + "halloween" and only emotes named/tagged omegadance and halloween would show up in search

[dusk kindle]

mmmm

[nocturne wind]

that would probably work

[dusk kindle]

this would make that process easier since it would show you that but with the emotes you already own

[torn terrace]

thats what ive been getting at this entire conversation

[dusk kindle]

all at once

you know what i mean?

[torn terrace]

it could work with the general emote library and your own emotes yes

[dusk kindle]

for example if i want to replace all my emotes with christmas emotes using this, i would have to make a new emote set and start adding them one by one right?

[torn terrace]

yes, i understand what youre getting at with using a migration type tool when it comes to that

[dusk kindle]

okay okay i think we understand each other now