#Global Emote Fixes

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edgy flame
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Here we remake and post hq versions of the existing global emotes

sonic lily
edgy flame
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@stuck gale get your fucking ass in here boy

stuck gale
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I'm on mobile

edgy flame
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just alerting you smile

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this is as high quality as you can get with it

peak juniper
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WineTime

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current WineTime is super scuffed

edgy flame
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surprisingly the compression went nicer on the emotes where real people are depicted like reckH and BasedGod

abstract igloo
edgy flame
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oh right, I didn't crop mine

stuck gale
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@ionic nova any word on the Feels emotes PauseChamp

ionic nova
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not yet, woke up late and needed to eat something

stuck gale
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@sand geode how are you even gonna find the og source for gachiBASS pepeLaugh

ionic nova
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can't wait to see your internet history afterwards

stuck gale
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he did GachiPls very well so it wouldn't surprise me

sand geode
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bigger trouble is figuring out which frames were used

stuck gale
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@sand geode try looking at gachiBOP

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Better reference than gachiBASS

sand geode
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thanks, yeah this is a better reference

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hmm the clip i got is 60 fps but the emote is 30 i think

stuck gale
stuck gale
stuck gale
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now we just wait on gachiGASM and gachiBASS PauseChamp

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forsenPls and PETPET are the last ones i can see that might need a rework

ionic nova
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working on apu

sand geode
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i can edit gachiGASM to be hd, but idk if its necessary

stuck gale
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only problem is matte is a lil scuffed on it

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wait

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added that in the list

sand geode
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yea looks good

stuck gale
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i have no idea how it'll be done but forsenpls desperately needs a revamp

ionic nova
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it probably needs a remaking if you want to make it better quality

stuck gale
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yea but the clip is from 2014

ionic nova
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the billy clips are pretty old too

ionic nova
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this gif is pretty decent quality

stuck gale
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fps is kinda meh but could work

ionic nova
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gimme a sec

stuck gale
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someone has to have the actual clip somewhere

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found this LULE

ionic nova
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you never heard the edit?

stuck gale
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probably

ionic nova
stuck gale
ionic nova
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there is so many emote materials in this video

stuck gale
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LULW true

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@ionic nova do you know where in the video is actually forsenpls Hmm

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1:12 doesn't match up

ionic nova
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sec

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i think it's after his first spin

stuck gale
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might be higher quality

stuck gale
ionic nova
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the first half does

stuck gale
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it doesn't

stuck gale
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doesn't match up to the video

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plus sitting down at the end

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definitely same stream but not from those clips

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this is gonna suck pepeLaugh

edgy flame
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gachiBASS unironically looks uncanny as fuck

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well, so does gachiGASM actually LULE

stuck gale
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xqcl bubu

shell sparrow
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deleted it as duplicate

stuck gale
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look in pins

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all the new fixed ones are in there

ionic nova
stuck gale
ionic nova
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He was talking about the Apu

stuck gale
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oh feelsd

ionic nova
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I think so at least

stuck gale
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yea

ionic nova
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Cuz the Apu is deleted

shell sparrow
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yes

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there is no need for a new apu global plus it was the wrong size

stuck gale
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what about all the others Hmm

shell sparrow
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idk yet ill look later

stuck gale
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aight

stuck gale
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@round viper do you still have the roto of RareParrot?

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or was it just a yoink from somewhere

ionic nova
stuck gale
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oh feelsd

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well i found the og og source

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time to roto it Okayeg

ionic nova
peak juniper
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7TV: Home of the highest quality emotes

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pepelaugh

stuck gale
peak juniper
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people remaking decades old emotes is quite wholesome

edgy flame
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we're not maintaining the best image in terms of the globals' quality at the moment LULE

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and that's not even as bad as it was a few days ago

edgy flame
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the previous versions were just bttv/ffz reups with a horrendous compression

stuck gale
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yeah but anatole just needs to update them

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look at the pins on this post

ionic nova
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yo the new forsenpls looks bussin

stuck gale
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i think PETPET is the only other global remaining after i finish RareParrot

ionic nova
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frfr

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steer/rain/rebecca and based god dont need anything?

stuck gale
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could probably ask snortexx to re-render as webp

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i think rebecca was already taken from og source

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since it was removed as bttv global

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same as basedgod

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reckh should be fine

ionic nova
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same with basedgod

stuck gale
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maybe

ionic nova
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reckful can be better quality but it is his emote so it's fine

stuck gale
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if someone wants to edit it

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there's a big resolution

edgy flame
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I can do it I guess

stuck gale
peak juniper
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basedgod and rebeccablack are former BTTV globals

stuck gale
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yea

peak juniper
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it would feel wrong to change them

stuck gale
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?

peak juniper
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they should behave exactly like they did on bttv imo

stuck gale
stuck gale
peak juniper
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nah

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not HD

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they should be pixelated messes that have plausible deniability whether or not it's the individual that could copystrike the emote

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bad take over now.

stuck gale
round viper
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ooohh nice

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peepoSad got replaced

edgy flame
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TIL that the basedgod image actually comes from gettyimages

round viper
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peepoSad and FeelsStrongMan always bothered me

stuck gale
round viper
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This one might be better

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Non cropped

stuck gale
round viper
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Looks better in emote size too

stuck gale
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i don't like the shadow

stuck gale
edgy flame
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yeah

stuck gale
edgy flame
stuck gale
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so then what pepeLaugh

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Clueless getty images wouldn't sue 7tv for an emote

edgy flame
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totally not right after I tracked down the source Clueless

edgy flame
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yeah I just don't wanna be involved miniDank

stuck gale
peak juniper
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color is different

stuck gale
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i can make raise the exposure if you want

peak juniper
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so scuffed

stuck gale
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mine?

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it's the actual og image LULE

peak juniper
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no the bttv version

stuck gale
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ah

peak juniper
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wait why do I have it on bttv?

edgy flame
peak juniper
rancid lynx
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:trollface:

edgy flame
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why does it look so blurry?

stuck gale
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???

edgy flame
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@peak juniper does it look blurry to you?

stuck gale
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wait a second pepeLaugh

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i just realized

rancid lynx
peak juniper
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maybe they applied some artificial sharpening when making the original emote

peak juniper
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that's nice and sharp

stuck gale
peak juniper
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but also darker which perhaps people won't like as much

stuck gale
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well it's the og source

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up to atol end of the day

peak juniper
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just try to match the brightness 4HEad

stuck gale
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you can if you want

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idrc

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also you should crop WineTime

edgy flame
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well I guess that does it

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everything else looks more or less okayish

stuck gale
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retroraBean we did it

peak juniper
stuck gale
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less clog in the chat

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half of the emote is blank space LULE

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do it for the pixel complainers anson Okayeg

peak juniper
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you need some space to swirl your glass of wine

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you don't want it to touch other emotes

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that's icky

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the "original width version" is 112 pixels wide

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which is what the original emote was designed to have

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you're looking at the wrong version

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it could be cropped smaller but I need further convincing that it's needed

stuck gale
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clap is cropped

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might as well

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keep it consistent

peak juniper
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if "less clog in the chat" is desired, why are we forced to have 128 pixel-tall emotes? Madgi

stuck gale
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because vertical blank space doesn't matter since most chat messages will be the same height

peak juniper
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it does make messages taller though

stuck gale
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and even then it's only a few pixels taller

peak juniper
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I'm trying to upload a cropped version

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but it's not letting me

stuck gale
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i wonder why LULE

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add some blank space above

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so it's 128x

peak juniper
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no it was correct (I am not an idiot, surely)

stuck gale
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nice

peak juniper
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the issue was I was clicking "New version" while I had the latest version selected. Apparently it needs the initial version selected to create "new versions"

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@shell sparrow surely this isn't intentional

stuck gale
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also 15 updated emotes ready now Okayeg

ionic nova
edgy flame
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I'd redraw partyparrot just to get rid of the jagged gif pixels, but that alone is probably not that big of an issue to replace it

stuck gale
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probably not

edgy flame
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guess we're just waiting now then miniDank

stuck gale
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Clueless atol didn't forget

edgy flame
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bing him Clueless

edgy flame
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I didn't mean it monkaOMEGA

stuck gale
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i didn't bing yet

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you do it pepeLaugh

edgy flame
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no way

stuck gale
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could PETPET be remastered Hmm

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who knows what the og source is LULE

edgy flame
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a frog gif, but that's not the original video

stuck gale
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feelsd ?

edgy flame
stuck gale
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how the fuck

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Hmm The source of the frog petting GIF is unknown.

peak juniper
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I hate that hand

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looks so obese

edgy flame
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it's mom's hand

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hahaaaaaa

shell sparrow
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ask a mod to add all these as versions of the current globals

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im not going thru all of it manually

rancid lynx
rancid lynx
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UHM It looks fine on chat

edgy flame
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@abstract igloo shall you do it? OkaygeDonk

abstract igloo
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@shell sparrow I'd love to, but I don't believe mods have perms to edit globals anymore

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At least there's no GUI for it Hmm

rancid lynx
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Make the New emotes a version of the original globals

shell sparrow
peak juniper
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uh

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They're not exactly the same emotes

shell sparrow
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i dont really care

peak juniper
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Some people have put a ton of work into fixing, recreating, and improving the emotes

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why would they be added as versions?

shell sparrow
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because i dont want a billion duplicates

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thats what versions are for

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quality improvements and fixes

peak juniper
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Can emotes have versions by different users?

shell sparrow
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no but it doesnt matter since globals are going to have the owner user removed for security reasons

peak juniper
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Security reasons?

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It's a bit odd to strip emotes of credit from the authors

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particularly ones that everyone will see

shell sparrow
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it's not like anyone here made those emotes

rancid lynx
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Maybe put the emote owners on the description of the emote

peak juniper
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Not the originals, but several have been recreated and updated in various ways

rancid lynx
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They did

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The renewd ones

shell sparrow
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okay well if that's a bother we don't have to update them

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im just telling you that there isnt going to be a credit for globals in the future

rancid lynx
peak juniper
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I think emote authors deserve an explanation

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besides "security reasons"

shell sparrow
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thats all there is to it

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what if one of the accounts that owned a global got compromised and decided to rename it to something bad

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its just not worth the risk

peak juniper
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Wouldn't the better solution be to disable renames for active globals?

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Or at the very least, require mod approval?

shell sparrow
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well renames wouldn't actually reflect in the global set, in the same way it doesnt for channel emotes

rancid lynx
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I think its Fine that globals dont get ownership as long as the creators are credited in some way

shell sparrow
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at the end of the day basically all of these are classics without a known author, so effectively in the public domain

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(until someone files a lawsuit)

peak juniper
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I added pixels to NymnCorn

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I heckin did an art

shell sparrow
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if the possibility of not having your name plastered on global emotes is a problem, then thats fine it doesnt need to be updated

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the current versions are decent quality anyway

edgy flame
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no they're not pepeLaugh

peak juniper
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they really aren't lule

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it's not about wanting people to see my name (as fun as that is)

edgy flame
peak juniper
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it's about arbitrarily stripping people of their credit

edgy flame
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1x res looks horrible

peak juniper
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it doesn't need to happen

shell sparrow
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keep complaining and im just gonna tag this whole thread as rejected and leave LULE

abstract igloo
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I'd still like to update some of these for quality ApuApproved if anyone doesn't want theirs versioned as a current global tell me

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^ knowing credit won't be shown on globals in the future

shell sparrow
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thats not a final decision btw im just noting that it's been in consideration for a while and might happen

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i just dont want anyone to bitch about it if it does happen

edgy flame
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what would it mean if it's versioned? that not everyone will see it?

shell sparrow
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wdym?

edgy flame
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i.e. it's not gonna be the default one people see?

shell sparrow
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no i just want these to be uploaded as versions so there isnt a million different emotes of the same thing

edgy flame
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@abstract igloo well for now you can go ahead and do it with my AYAYA, it's not like I want it to be attached to my name lol

abstract igloo
edgy flame
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is it gonna be updated in chat too?

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I don't care about my name stripped away for that one in particular because I don't wanna be seen as a weeb LULE

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so uhh, I guess for the rest of the globals, their authors should be asked if they'd be fine with their names possibly being erased in the future before adding them?

abstract igloo
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I suppose in that case the emote can be switched back or a different version can be used

edgy flame
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should I ping the other people here ApuThink

abstract igloo
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Feel free

edgy flame
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@stuck gale

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@sand geode

abstract igloo
sand geode
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whats up

abstract igloo
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I'm not sure if these would have quite the same feel in chat Hmm I'd want Anatole or someone to decide

sand geode
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smthn about versioning?

edgy flame
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basically, anatole said the names of the authors of the globals could be stripped in the future

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meaning you'd see the globals, but not who made them

sand geode
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oh ok

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yea idc lol

ionic nova
edgy flame
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all of yours have already been switched to I believe

abstract igloo
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They are quite different I think Hmm not necessarily bad looking

ionic nova
abstract igloo
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They have been ApuApproved

edgy flame
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imo rareparrot looks fine, it's just that it was edited from the original video

ionic nova
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mine are still on my profile though

edgy flame
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they're versioned

ionic nova
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so there are dupes of all of them

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@abstract igloo you didnt switch EZ

edgy flame
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the original link is 404d

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for some reason

edgy flame
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I'm fine with updating rareparrot personally

ionic nova
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i think all of them look better

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we all did a good job imo

edgy flame
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for basedgod and rebeccablack we could ask hyru to change the saturation

abstract igloo
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Thanks, EZ's been updated ApuApproved

ionic nova
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what about the dupes?

abstract igloo
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They do look a lot better imo

edgy flame
ionic nova
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dont think anatole would want to have 2 of the same emotes

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we arent bttv afterall

abstract igloo
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Hmm maybe we can deal with them when the attribution situation is completely decided

ionic nova
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making them private will remove them from the list?

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not sure how it works in the new site

abstract igloo
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It won't FeelsDankMan

ionic nova
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cant wait for Halloween to see the old ones back

edgy flame
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you can always update those too you know OMGScoots

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draw entirely new ones

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the ones that were used last year are now compressed pretty badly

ionic nova
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thats so much work again

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and i still cant upload new emotes

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i might go at it when we'rer closer to events

edgy flame
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well I might do some if you'll allow me to

ionic nova
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i dont have monopoly on them, they're globals now

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ooh, nvm the upload bug is finally fixed

stuck gale
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WAYTOODANK wtf did I miss in here

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if I understand correctly, does Anatole want to remove ownership of globals to prevent issues in the future?

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I don't really see a problem with stripping ownership of globals since all but maybe AlienDance and Gayge are just remastered/re-uploaded emotes from bttv

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I'd rather 7tv have high quality globals than credit LULE

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I also dislike there being a gazillion duplicates so hopefully versioning fixes that when it gets more updates

peak juniper
ionic nova
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just write "worked on by X" or something

stuck gale
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I don't see why that would be an issue tbh

ionic nova
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not made/created cuz it's pretty much a copy

stuck gale
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emote versions already have different links

peak juniper
stuck gale
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Don't see how it couldn't be different ownership too

stuck gale
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And I don't blame him

stuck gale
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Like I said I'm pretty sure AlienDance is the only original emote

ionic nova
stuck gale
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I know ?

ionic nova
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so if your account get compromised they wont touch the global emote

peak juniper
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I don't think that's how that works legally though. The emotes are technically someone's work, and they could come knocking at any point, if they can prove they were the original author. I kinda think forcing emotes into "public domain" status by stripping them of authors would increase the likelihood of legal action. 7TV's ToS says this:

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and later "You shall have sole responsibility for the accuracy, quality, integrity, legality, reliability, appropriateness, and intellectual property ownership or right to use of all submitted Content"

stuck gale
peak juniper
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so I assume that, legally, it would be better to leave emotes "owned" by the people that uploaded them

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Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, but I have been watching lot of Better Call Saul recently.

stuck gale
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idk then bruh

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personally I don't care about credit that much but I wouldn't mind having it

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considering I did put hours of time rotoscoping the emotes

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And finding the origins

peak juniper
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exactly

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and while I won't claim to have made anything noteworthy myself, I know tons of very talented emote authors that spend hours making emotes

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credit should be the bare minimum

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You know the old "working for exposure" memes? Without credit, people aren't even getting exposure.

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That's why I think it's important

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And now I officially complain about both pixels AND credit.

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Top 10 most irritating 7TV discord members:
#1. Anson
Thanks for watching

edgy flame
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@stuck gale imo you should still make alternative versions of basedgod and rebeccablack which replicate the original saturation and position

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soda was hesitant to enable those because they look different

stuck gale
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aight

ionic nova
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dunno what the problem with FeelsDankMan was tbh

edgy flame
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different colors maybe?

ionic nova
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all of the emotes i made were slightly more colourful

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only real different colour are his lips though

stuck gale
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did EZ even get updated LULE

ionic nova
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i take the colour from the og emote and colour everything with it

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no

edgy flame
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I could ping soda again later

stuck gale
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FailFish moderation

ionic nova
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should i ping him?

stuck gale
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how's this @edgy flame

edgy flame
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yeah that's more like the original

ionic nova
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looks good

stuck gale
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and now how's this

edgy flame
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that should do

stuck gale
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i'm assuming there's no point in uploading since he'd just overlap them

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you should probably do RareParrot since shmov doesn't have discord @edgy flame

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unless you wanna try bothering him in his offline

edgy flame
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rareparrot looks fine as is, idk why soda thought it's different

ionic nova
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you can upload them as a version of the ones you already uploaded

stuck gale
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different saturations ig

edgy flame
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I ain't yoinking that LULE

ionic nova
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nono

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i wasnt paying attention

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i meant upload them as a version of what you uploaded already

edgy flame
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does rareparrot look ok to you personally? @stuck gale @ionic nova

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shmov's one I mean

stuck gale
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yeah

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i mean i have the original source

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the current one is extremely compressed

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that's why it looks like shit in comparison

ionic nova
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shmovy's one looks way better

stuck gale
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^

ionic nova
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add EZ to the list again

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of emotes that needs update

edgy flame
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maybe we'll have actual new holiday globals this year instead of most of them being reuploads LULE

ionic nova
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lipton is probably up too

stuck gale
ionic nova
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@errant otter ๐Ÿคœ ๐Ÿ””

errant otter
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wat

ionic nova
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we need you to make new versions of the current globals with the ones we made

errant otter
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forsenInsane WHY

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make anatole do it or something

ionic nova
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he told soda to do it before

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we just need a mod

errant otter
ionic nova
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and i knew youre up

errant otter
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PepeMods why me tho

stuck gale
errant otter
ionic nova
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shouldnt have replied

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now we know you're here

errant otter
stuck gale
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7tv mods when they actually have to do work happE

errant otter
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not this shit fuck that

ionic nova
errant otter
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wtf am i doing even?

stuck gale
errant otter
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does anatole care?

stuck gale
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he told a mod to do it LULE

errant otter
ionic nova
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he made a new version with what i uploaded

errant otter
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and did anatole just add the emote as global?

ionic nova
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i think the new version just automatically becomes the global

errant otter
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no?

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it doesnt

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whatever you have added is what you have added

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if you add a new version its that version of the emote

ionic nova
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idk then

errant otter
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is he even awake if he wants me to do it LULE

stuck gale
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soda did most of them

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but wanted us to make a few fixes

errant otter
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anatole?

stuck gale
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those are the remaining one

errant otter
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did he wants those remade that you listed?

stuck gale
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yea

errant otter
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alright alright one sec

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did he just put higher res?

stuck gale
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?

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oh

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i guess idk

errant otter
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for the new version descriptin

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ok

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ill just put that there

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why does it look so weird on preview?

stuck gale
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bc it's cropped

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doesn't actually show like that

errant otter
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so is it gonna be in original sizing then?

stuck gale
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the one of the image yea

errant otter
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ok yea its the same nice

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ok done @stuck gale

stuck gale
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epic

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probably need to approve them LULE

errant otter
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oh right

ionic nova
errant otter
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ok approved

ionic nova
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it's not replaced though

errant otter
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well yea anatole has to do that

edgy flame
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already you can see the difference in quality

errant otter
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oh nice

ionic nova
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ooh nvm then

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so this thread is done then

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until we go for event emotes

errant otter
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is that all you wanna do?

ionic nova
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we replaced all of them besides Stare & Apu

errant otter
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yea those are fine

edgy flame
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anatole said he likes those as is

ionic nova
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yep

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petpet wasnt changed too

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but idk if it's necessary

edgy flame
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we don't know the source

ionic nova
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same with reckH it's good as is imo

edgy flame
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don't think that one should be replaced at all, it's sort of a tribute

ionic nova
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ik

errant otter
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yea

ionic nova
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thats what i meant

errant otter
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those are fine

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ApuApproved we good then?

ionic nova
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so we're done

errant otter
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ok cool closing

ionic nova
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wait

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@stuck gale

errant otter
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waiting

stuck gale
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?

errant otter
stuck gale
ionic nova
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can we close the thread?

stuck gale
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why not

errant otter
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we good?

ionic nova
errant otter
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ok closing now

shell sparrow
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@errant otter why are you archiving this

errant otter
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should we leave open?

stuck gale
shell sparrow
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bruh who asked you

errant otter
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APU sorry

edgy flame
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who asked LULE

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maybe we should repurpose this thread for the holiday globals later? ApuThink

stuck gale
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i guess

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probably should wait for sets

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so globals can instantly be switched in and out

edgy flame
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well, gg for now

stuck gale
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retroraBean Clap we did it discord

edgy flame
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meaning if some client is using that api endpoint, it'd still fetch some of the old ones

edgy flame
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weird

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do they have to be manually switched to or something

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@abstract igloo is there some extra step that needs to be done? ApuThink

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I thought you and lipton have versioned them

edgy flame
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I think this is what liption has mentioned to make them actually appear as globals

abstract igloo
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Hopefully Anatole can check it, i have no idea miniDank

edgy flame
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yeah, it seems that they have to be manually enabled

ionic nova
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not all globals are switched yet

shell sparrow
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most patient pixel complainers

edgy flame
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I think anatole has switched to the new versions

vast basalt
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WutFace 622 messages in here

edgy flame
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though it seems he's decided to keep some of the old ones

shell sparrow
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which one hasn't been switched?

shell sparrow
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done

vast basalt
edgy flame
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thank OkaygeDonk

abstract igloo
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they look great

ionic nova
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FeelsWeirdMan is still the old one

edgy flame
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not anymore

ionic nova
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still appears as the old one in chat for me

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the rest are replaced

edgy flame
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try refreshing via ctrl+f5

ionic nova
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are all the others changed? only went through the ones ive made

edgy flame
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yeah

ionic nova
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gachiBASS is still the old one for me

peak juniper
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On WineTime, technically stray pixels weren't removed. Megakill3's upload wasn't used at all. I uploaded a completely new and clean version.

edgy flame
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false advertising Hmm

peak juniper
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So we have the word "versions" for emotes already. The word is fine IMO but we also need a different word like "variants" for holiday versions and distinct versions that aren't merely "improvements"

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The problem is the word variants looks very similar to versions
variants
versions

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ideally the words would be visually distinct

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I'm having a hard time thinking of words for the variants. Perhaps the solution is changing the word for "versions" to something less ambiguous, like "updates"

ionic nova
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i used "Halloween variants" and "Winter variants"

peak juniper
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But should we not also have a word that can be used for all "variants"?

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I had this wine glass I made a long time ago when playing with light transport sims. Hyper-realistic WineTime anyone?

vast basalt
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WICKED caustics

vivid stone
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with blenders new caustics optimizations

peak juniper
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This is LuxCore not Cycles

vivid stone
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well yeah it doesnt look like cycles

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is luxcore faster?

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i've never actually used any renderers

peak juniper
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at caustics, yeah

vivid stone
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other than cycles

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well other than caustics obveously

peak juniper
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Cycles gets way more development than any other open source renderer

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currently, Cycles can only do manifold next event estimation which means the caustics are only visible in the direct path of a shadow

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so the above scene wouldn't look right

vivid stone
peak juniper
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but it works very well for specular-diffuse-specular light paths like you need to see caustics under water

vivid stone
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who would ever simulate that kind of caustics tho

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just use a texture

peak juniper
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LuxCore has a light cache to do "caustics" on the table immediately underneath the base of the glass

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those are SDS caustics

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without a cache, it would be dark

vivid stone
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blender cant even sim any of the cooler water physics that would lead to non standard looking caustics

peak juniper
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One day Blender will be poggers

vivid stone
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I think its already poggers

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its way better than it was lets say like 5 years ago

peak juniper
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once they implement all the newer fluid, particle, rigid/soft body simulations etc.

vivid stone
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or even more recently than that

peak juniper
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and all the newer rendering techniques